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Steve Bannon
It's Wednesday or March, era of early 2026, day five of the sustained major military operation I think is referred to in the Middle east and Iran. And the morning after, really a monumental primary in Texas. We're going to get to all that in a moment. Want to finish with Stephen Mosher? Stephen, one of the Korean officials, remember the Koreans ever since this new president took over, they sentenced the former president to life in prison for contesting this election. These guys are much more associated with the ccp. But a Korean official has said that the United States is I think he used the word betray because we're looking to ship potentially, I think, THAAD and Patriot missile systems from East Asia and Korea into the zone of conflict or AOR in the Middle East. Does that concern you at all that people are implying that we're leaving Taiwan vulnerable?
Luke Macias
Well, it certainly concerns me that Taiwan would be vulnerable. I think it's one of the reasons why the Taiwanese parliament has come back into session and is going to approve a huge arms purchase from the United States. We need to be able to fulfill that that order, of course, which means maybe the Defense Production act that Brandon mentioned. We've got to start producing weapons for our allies at a faster rate and for ourselves as well over the short term. I think that things in China are in such chaos now with Xi Jinping cashiering one general after another that we
Steve Bannon
don't really have to worry about an
Luke Macias
aggressive move towards Taiwan at this very moment. But the sand is running through the hourglass.
Captain Fennell
This is on on his hit list
Luke Macias
and he does want to hit Taiwan before too many years pass.
Steve Bannon
Where do people go to get your book, sir? Where they go to get your writings, particularly this brilliant piece that was in the New York Post the other day.
Captain Fennell
Well, the the website is www.pop.org pop.org.
Luke Macias
the book is the Devil in Communist China.
Steve Bannon
Everything you wanted to know and feared was true about China is in the book. Stephen, fantastic. I want to have you back on later. I want to go through the book because the book's amazing as you are. Thank you so much for joining us. Appreciate you.
Captain Fennell
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Captain Fennell. Stephen Mosher is one of the brightest lights we've got on the Chinese Communist Party. You continue all the time to say, Steve, stay focused. Keep the main thing. The main thing. Can you make an argument, are you just reaching because you're a root and branch guy, that this major military operation in Iran with all the, all the reality of it, is actually helping us keep our eye on the main thing, which is the Chinese Communist Party? Sir. Okay, did you mute yourself, Captain Fanell?
Captain Fennell
Sorry.
Steve Bannon
Okay, let's unmute yourself. Go ahead, sir.
Captain Fennell
My assessment is, is that we should finish off what we should have done 47 years ago when Iran overthrew our embassy. And we have been playing around over there for way too long and we have been not paying attention to the main thing, which is the rise of the People's Republic of China and their military power. And I spent most of my career warning about that when I was in uniform. Now we're in this fight. Let's finish this fight to the best that we can and defang our enemy so that we can return and focus on the Pacific. And I would just say in terms of worries about pulling resources from the Pacific, I will note that our forward deployed carrier, the George Washington, remains homeported and operating in the western Pacific. So as long as that carrier stays there, we are sending a signal to Beijing that we are ready for bear. Now, we need to put a lot more there, as I've argued in many other forums, but for that, that is our symbolic and very capable military platforms, along with our fast attack submarines and all the TLMs that they carry. So we're not backing out of the Pacific. So I don't believe that. I think we have to readjust armaments and some things in that area. But the President is, like you said on Friday, meeting with people. And one last point. The people that died, those four that we just had named today and the other two that are unnamed, those deaths and the deaths of all those civilians in these Gulf states and our allies, we can put on the backs of the people that paid the Iranian regime money during the Biden regime and the Obama regime. So we need to ask ourselves why all those billions of dollars went over there so that they could build these weapons to kill us. And when we asked that question, ask ourselves how many billions were pouring into China to build similar kind or even better weapons to kill American sailors and soldiers and airmen and Marines in the Pacific. We got to stop funding our adversaries. We got to get serious about life and death. It's, it's, it's, it's serious for those that are gone, believe me. And so let's not give our enemies any more money and let's quit electing people to office that give money to our enemies. It's got to stop.
Steve Bannon
Captain Fennell, thank you. Where do people go? American greatness is where you put up your. Your pieces, correct?
Captain Fennell
Yes, sir.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, Captain. Look forward to talking to you after the show. Debbie Jurgadis, can you. Debbie, you're an RNC committee woman. Can you. From Texas. Can you just walk us through, give us the big picture? What, what from your perspective, particularly from. You're one of the grassroots leaders in maga. How did we do last night in Texas?
Debbie Jurgadis (RNC Committee Woman)
Home run? I mean, I would like to talk about the propositions first, because on the Texas GOP ballot, we had 10 propositions. These have been vetted and worded well by the state Republican Executive Committee. The big news out of Texas, because we've been working on this Proposition 10 for so long, which said Texas should prohibit Sharia law. It was overwhelmingly passed by the GOP primary voters last night by 94.8%, basically 95% of the voters, with 1.98 million people voting for that. So I think on that proposition, it's a message from the Texas voters to the governor, the state legislature, House and senate, county party leaders, city, county, city leaders, people with authority to make decisions that the Texas GOP voters want their leaders to stand up and fight back against this Islamization of Texas, which is evident everywhere. The ban Sharia. Just a huge, huge message from the voters to the people in power in Tech Kiss.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, I want to keep that graphic up there, Debbie, I can't say enough. Your leadership, Jenny Story's leadership, Frank Gaffney, Karen Singh, others. But you, particularly the Texas folks with no money to do this overwhelmingly, and this is what I said from the beginning, is a unifier. Even Cornyn took out an ad saying that against Sharia law. He put a bill in to try to catch up to Paxton and others. Correct me if I'm wrong, the 1.9 million. And this is. People have to understand this was on the back, I think, of the ballot down on the right. I mean, it was hard to find. It was the very last thing. And this is what blows me away so much about how this is a unifier for not just conservatives, but for all Republicans in the fact that I believe if you add Cornyn and Ken Paxton together, they're only at about a million seven, five. This outperformed Prop 10 outperformed the two top which people. And this is with $100 million spent in the Senate race. $100 million. And that's the easiest part to mark on the ballot here. You had something that had no money spent in it because there was no money, maybe a couple thousand bucks for some buttons and for some text messages, but had nothing and you had to flip it. It shows you, Debbie, how you were right. How this unifies people and gives a permission structure to talk about it of what the people think. Not the political consultants, cuz they wouldn't touch this. Not the political operatives, cuz they wouldn't touch this. What the people of Texas rose up yesterday and said, this is a major concern for us and we want it to be addressed. Debbie, your thoughts Couldn't have said it better.
Debbie Jurgadis (RNC Committee Woman)
I do want to thank you also, Steve Bannon, because months ago when we met to talk about this, it was a big, it seemed like a big mountain to climb to get the Texas voters on board with this idea. But your shows featuring and focusing on this issue over the last several months have been enormously helpful. And it really was a grassroots rising up and speaking to elected officials because as you said, legitimize speaking about the issue. Really easy for Texas Republicans anywhere or Republicans anywhere to run on things like low taxes and strong military. But to stand up against this Islamization, this spread of Sharia in Texas and around the country, it took people, it took the grassroots people speaking up first. The Texas Republican Party played a great role. The state Republican Executive Committee, many other leaders. And yes, people woke up and they saw the issue and they spoke. It's a beautiful thing.
Steve Bannon
How can you. We've got this runoff now. We've got the runoff for the Senate and also for the Attorney general. And so that's gonna be 90 days. There's a lot of the consultants are saying, oh, we're going to war, we're gonna do this. How do you address as a committeewoman the negative tone, particularly of the Senate race? Because this is something that I think, and Barris has some polling on it that may turn off people. You know, they talk about Ken Pattinson's beat Talarico. The negativity of this campaign can turn people off and particularly turn grassroots off to say, look, pox on both your houses. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna. If you're gonna, if you're just gonna take another hundred million dollars and try to destroy Ken Paxton again, I'm not in.
Captain Fennell
Right.
Steve Bannon
I'll vote for Ken Paxton. But if Cornyn wins, I'm Out. And I think people are not focusing on that. Cuz I can tell you, just spending time here, people are so turned off by the negative, the 60 or 70 or $80 million that got spent in the first round on this. So how do you, what is your recommendation since you're one of the leaders
Debbie Jurgadis (RNC Committee Woman)
you're honing in on? Just a very, very difficult question and I'm very glad we're talking about it. Republicans have to recognize in Texas and everywhere that the enemy is actually the American left. The enemy is the, in my view, the Democrat party. They have become Marxists are no longer on the American playing field. They're not advocating for American values.
Mike Lindell
They.
Debbie Jurgadis (RNC Committee Woman)
That's a real enemy. It has been a bitter, bitter race for the US Senate as well as the Texas Attorney General race. And now we're down to runoff in both races. I just urge the supporters of whoever it is you like, talk about why your guy is so great, talk about why he's the best choice. And the negative ads they do, they have made people feel bitter and people. There were people behind other candidates, especially in the Attorney General's race that didn't make it. All those people got to decide, I'm bigger than this, I'm bigger than the battle. The primary's over, we're in the runoff and, and we have to win because of how dangerous today's American left is, particularly Talarico, who is just a, you know, a scripture quoting, slogan slinging, slithering leftist. He's, he's a Democrat. He'd be very, very dangerous. Texas cannot send him to the U.S. senate. So we've got to be strong as Republicans and know we're the party that stands for America and, and try to just bat off, resist the temptation to belittle the other guy. Whoever you're not supporting, support the party and support the process and stop the bitterness. It's vital. It's vital. It's a save America time. It's a very serious time in America. But we're voting on saving Texas, saving America.
Steve Bannon
David, we got about a minute. How do you use then Prop 10 as a galvanizing force to bring everybody together? This was kind of your concept at the beginning. What is you one of the leaders here? How do we use that as a message that can drive everybody together?
Debbie Jurgadis (RNC Committee Woman)
Absolutely love that. Yes. Prop 10 that talked about eliminating Sharia, not honoring Sharia in Texas was really saying, the positive way of saying it is, it is honoring and respecting America. The US Constitution, the structure of laws. We have our process under the Constitution. That allows individuals consent of the govern. We were standing up all the work in Prop 10 was standing up for America. And right now what the people in Texas said is that we're with that argument. We really want what America is. We want the Constitution. We want the laws that are the duly passed system. We're not going to allow this foreign invasion of a foreign system to impact Texas so it can unite us around really loving and respecting America, the Constitution, our process of elections. And we do not allow this foreign invasion to to harm us in any way. It is very unifying because it's a pro America, pro freedom message.
Steve Bannon
Debbie where do people get you your podcast, your show content, all of it Ma', am.
Debbie Jurgadis (RNC Committee Woman)
Thank you so much. On Twitter @DebbieCanWeTalk D E B B I Debbie can we talk? And my website is americacanwetalk.org my show is called America can we Talk? You can find it on every platform under America can we Talk Rumble and on my website and Twitter everyplace else.
Steve Bannon
Thank you ma'.
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Steve Bannon
Jared Polis also has I'll get to my producers here in a minute, but put up some stuff on social media. Democrats already criticizing him. I think he's open to actually giving either clemency or pardon to Tina Peters. If we don't get Tina's team up this morning, we will get them in the 5 o' clock hour to go through this. But a major development in Colorado. I know this is through both what Peter Tickton's been doing with the President of the United States and the followers of Tina Peters and the Warren posse of applying pressure. And we've got to make sure we play this very smartly because our objective is to get Tina out. So we're trying to get Apollo and some of the others up, if we can do that. Luke Macias is going to join us at the bottom of the hour. He's got very good news overall for conservatives in MAGA in Texas. But we have to face reality. And that's why I think there needs to be some course correction here or I think people are living in a dream world. Anyone that thinks that you're gonna spend another hundred million dollars on destroying Ken Paxton for what Ken Paxton has stood for, Right? Ken Paxton has faults, as all of us do. But what Ken Paxton, a true warrior. If you spend another hundred million dollars to destroy him, to assume that all the people that have the grassroots and particularly these, these really fierce warriors for grassroots and for Ken Paxton that have fought through things like his impeachment, if you believe all those are going to show up in November, it's just, it's just not a, it's just not reality. I think people have to start dealing in reality here and we ought to turn this into something of kind of the bid in the ass. What do the two candidates stand for what are they proposing for the Senate? It's interesting. Cornyn does not want to talk about his record now. He jumped aboard the Sharia train. What a politician would do, and he submitted a law anti Sharia law that won't go anywhere. I don't think he had a co sponsor. Maybe Senator Tuberville was the co sponsor. But after 24 years to throw it in a couple weeks. And we do appreciate the fact that he did come on board this Sharia effort, the banning of Sharia, prohibiting a Sharia, as everyone did. It was the very first question asked at the Attorney General's debate. It was the question on the top of everybody's mind. And this is what, you know, we didn't come down here, we didn't move this entire operation down to Texas because we thought it would be a great time to go spend some time in Texas. No, we moved down here for a task and purpose. We see with our eyes, see what you see, that there's something very dangerous going on in this state. And if you go back to what they're talking about, even with the beginning of the Islamic revolution, and I'm not a person at all, and having been there in 79, one of the earliest people there, and even with the bombing of the Marine barracks, as horrible as that was and everything they've done, you gotta deal with the realities of the day and make your decisions. What's happened here in Texas? They're clearly taking a name. If you look at Michigan, if you look at, particularly New York City, if you look at this red green alliance, which it is, and they're very organized and they're very tough. They're very organized because guess what, they're jihadist and they're Marxist. They know how they've taken power in the past. They took power In Iran, what, 47 years ago by overthrowing the Shah. Taking to the streets. You haven't seen that uprising to date. You just haven't at that scale. This is one of the points I keep making. I'm not so sure you really see a people that. And I realize, Steve, you can't say they're oppressed. I got that. But there's a big contingent there that don't feel they're oppressed, that want to live in an Islamic republic. Well, in the United States, we don't. And particularly in the great state of Texas, they don't. And you can see the Islamic invasion. Tommy Robinson summed it up last night on our broadcast. In about six or seven minutes, he gave you the warning that came from his country. Frank Gaffney. Amazing to pull this together with Debbie Jurgadis. And I want to thank all the grassroots leaders. There were so many people behind the scenes that made this happen. This is why this is important. More votes were cast for Proposition 10 last night, 1.9 million votes than Cornyn and Paxton combined. Cornyn spent, I think the number on the first round, when they sum it all up, would be over, I think $120 million, I read, but let's say conservatively, 80 million bucks. 80 million bucks. $80 million. And some of the biggest media markets in the United States, in Houston, in Dallas, Fort Worth, in San Antonio, in Austin, and of course, the rest of carpet bombing the rest of the state, too. This effort had no money, virtually no money. If it was money, it was people taking it out of their pocket. And I want to thank Patriot Mobile, all the groups that got involved in this. And quite frankly, it's just a stunning outcome. And why is it a stunning outcome? Of course, the grassroots gotten back of this. And this is why the grassroots has such a power. This is why all these reporters watch War Room all the time and pull the clips from War Room. You see them up all the time because they understand that you have political power, particularly when you put your shoulder to the wheel. Enormous political power. But it shows you the focus is more powerful than money. And it also shows you how important this issue is. Frank Gaffney, your thoughts about this?
Frank Gaffney
Well, it's a providential development, Steve, but the Lord was given some real assistance. And I want to start taking nothing away from all of the grassroots and marvelous team of patriots and organizations that have come together behind, well, I call the campaign Save Texas, Save America. But I want to first and foremost say thank you to you. Debbie was exactly right. Your amplification of all of this, the personal time and energy and not least the airtime that you put into this was indispensable. And you have many great lines, but one of my favorite ones is the bit about politicians and others in, you know, political life who behave a lot better if they feel the pointy end of the bayonet at their back. Figuratively, of course, we call what we're about Operation Bayonet. It's a four phase program that is designed to basically ensure that the people of Texas are made aware of the threat that they are facing from Sharia. I think we've made real headway in that. The fact that 95% of 2 million voters knew enough about this to know that they didn't want any part of it and registered their vote for. The proposition that Texas should prohibit Sharia law is a testament to that. But there's an awful lot of other Texans who still don't know anything really probably about Sharia, certainly the threat that it poses to everything they hold dear, including their dogs, which would be prohibited and killed if these Sharia supremacists have their way. But beyond that, even if they do know, they have not been moved so far to express it. So our next phase of this four part campaign, we want the governor of Texas to walk the walk. He's done a marvelous job of talking about Sharia and claiming that, you know, real progress is made on it. He did to his great credit, designate the Muslim Brotherhood and the Council on American Islamic Relations as what they are, terrorist organizations. And by the way, he threw in for good measure, transnational criminal ones. And he said they're not allowed to hold real property in the state of Texas. Well, we need that enforced, Governor, among myriad other things, colleagues of ours and Blair Marvelous guy at the Texas Public Health Policy foundation has helped formulate something like I think it's 36 different initiatives that the governor can and must take. Now. There's no need to wait for the
Steve Bannon
next legislative session which doesn't happen until 2007.
Frank Gaffney
Bottom line is this. We're ready to go on rolling up this and making it a real voting issue. And we so appreciate your help in doing that, Steve.
Steve Bannon
No, no, we got so much more work to do. We're going to. The first thing is figure out how this had such a massive big coming together because there was no money. I just want to make sure people understand that it was quite. It's very simple to vote for the Senate and the top racer at. To get to the propositions, particularly Proposition 10 at the very bottom on the side. That's why the overwhelming Support to get 1.9 million votes and really more than the combined. I think it was 1.75 or something combined for Cornyn and Paxton who spent. Cornyn alone spent $80 million in this. This is a testament to you to Patriot Mobile, to Debbie, Dr. Goss, all the grassroots people, Joanne Flum, everybody that came on the show. But not just coming on the show. I have the easiest job in the world, folks. It really is. I cut a microphone on and I get great people talking about great causes to a great audience. That is pretty simple when you compare it to the hard work that has to all the meetings you guys had, all the organization you had, all the grassroots getting out There getting this out there. So I just want to give a hat tip to what you and the grassroots did in the state. We got two minutes to sum it up for us.
Debbie Jurgadis
Absolutely. So we have victory right now. But we shouldn't be resting on our laurels because just because we. We said yes to Proposition 10, now we have to persuade the legislators to make laws that will actually prohibit Sharia law. So we're all sitting here all excited, and yes, we won. But the work is just beginning. We got validation. But that's all we got was validation. Now the real work begins and the grassroots have to come back out again.
Steve Bannon
So we're gonna take a commercial break. Frank was talking about this. I realize you're not hooked up. Frank is talking about, hey, going forward.
Debbie Jurgadis (RNC Committee Woman)
Right.
Steve Bannon
I do wanna say, though, that particularly people are talking about how brutal in this runoff is gonna be, not just for AG, but really for the Senate. My point is that we saw something that galvanized everybody. Over 1.9 million people that came to polls in a very difficult way to vote supported this. That brought all the sides together. Even Cornyn jumped on and had ads running. Remember after we got aboard from Texas, he had a. He had a Sharia ad. He also put in legislation. Right. And people know I'm not a corny guy. Cornyn knows that. But this issue, and there are other issues out like this that bring the right together. And you can talk about the various ways you're going to execute or implement it here. I want to do this, I want to do that. People say it's not good enough.
Debbie Jurgadis (RNC Committee Woman)
Right.
Steve Bannon
We see that this is a galvanizing issue. And what we need in November in a runup, we need issues that people feel comfortable with getting it back of and putting their shoulder to the wheel. So we're going to take a short commercial break. Want to thank the folks at Patriot Mobile. 972 Patriot. You'll get to talk to them with the East Texas accent in their call center. Or if you don't have an East Texas accent, you're talking to one of the missionaries they sponsor out at one of the missionary schools in California. Go check it out. Day. Also, Birch Gold. Once again, Tex Bannon B A N N Owen at 989-898. You need the quick and dirty. And that's what this is investing in. Gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. No, it's free. No obligation. Talk to Philip Patrick and the team. Short break. Back in a moment.
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Steve Bannon
If you if you hang around these people long enough, Jenny and Glenn and the others, you understand they're running their businesses and taking care of the community and doing and volunteering at the same time. These are kind of side hustles, but they're putting in 10 or 12 hours a day. So that's why the other night we were doing a broadcast and it was late night, 11 o' clock at night, and I was texting Jenny. It turns out she's still in the building at 11 o' clock at night. It amazes me. I know you got to get back to work, but your efforts here, what's your message? We are going into territory that's uncharted. And here's why it's uncharted. The most expensive Senate primary in the history of this republic just took place in the state of Texas. And in that you had a senator that's been in office for 24 years. You also had an attorney general that is an icon of the MAGA movement, particularly what he did during the illegitimate regime of Joe Biden, where he really stood alone or many of the times, or led the effort to confront the Biden regime. He also had a a decorated combat helicopter pilot. And in that it was a race that was, let me be blunt, it was revolting. The negativity was revolting. And that's why I'm so proud of the fact to be Associated with. Everybody said no. The real issue, one of the real issues happening in the state that we do not have a permission structure to people to talk about is this Islamic invasion. We're going to start with this proposition for the Republican Party, and 1.9 million people with no money to tell them how to do it or where to go, voted for it on a very difficult ballot, almost a ballot set up so that you wouldn't get to this last proposition. It was the very last thing on the last page. I mean, it was very. And when I saw that, I go, oh, my gosh, more people voted in favor of that. That took that ballot, then voted for Cornyn and Paxton combined. That's a lesson. That's a lesson for the grassroots. The power of the grassroots, the power of the force, Multiplier capabilities. When these people, and I saw them every day, you cannot believe the effort that the little guy put into this to say, no, this is important. We want to make sure. I think it's a lesson for donors. I think it's a lesson for the political operatives. I think it's a lesson for the people that buy TV ads. All of it, what people want to respond to. And the next 90 days could define the Republican Party in Texas and the MAGA movement, particularly how people comport themselves.
Debbie Jurgadis
That's correct.
Steve Bannon
And so I want to turn to you about what we need to do.
Debbie Jurgadis
Well, we're going to see, unfortunately, I don't think the negative campaigning is going to go away. So really, as the grassroots, we really need to evaluate who's going to take this issue seriously. We've all voted. We've shown our voice right at the polls. Now we really need to think seriously about who's gonna be the strongest to represent us as AG and as senator on this issue and try to weed through all the negativity. I wish they didn't have to do negative ads. It really is gonna divide the party. Right now, the Democrats are celebrating. They don't have any runoffs, and they're gonna unify the party. So they're gonna use the next few months to create unity and get more people to the ballot to vote in November while we're gonna be sitting there tearing each other apart. So we need to look beyond that, and we need to focus on our issue at hand and really focus on who's gonna be the strongest in terms of fighting this for us. And it's just not just for Texas.
Steve Bannon
It's for the whole country. That's why you've gotta stop. You've Gotta stop it here in Texas. And you can tell this moves people. It moves people very deeply because they haven't been able to talk about it. Now. They feel they have a vehicle to do that. And as Frank said, there's so much work to do. And we understand that you got a whole, you got to get, you got to really put now meat on the bones, but principally to drive this forward and to make sure that this is a major part of this runoff. Because if it just devolves into this negativity, I'm telling you, do not assume people are going to show up for you in November. People are going to be so turned off and say, hey, this is not what I support and I'm not going to back it. And people I think are playing with fire here.
Debbie Jurgadis
That's right.
Steve Bannon
Where do people go for Patriot Mobile and also all the other activities?
Debbie Jurgadis
So go to www.patriotmobile.com bannon and also just call 972 Patriot if you like to talk to people. We've got real Americans on the phone who can answer your questions. You don't have to leave the comfort of your living room to switch over. And we are here to support all of you and to keep this fight going. And that's what Patriot Mobile is all about. We are a mission based company that supports its mission by selling cell phone service. And it's the same or better cell phone service that you currently have. You're, you're using your, you're not just voting at the polls, you're also voting with your wallets. And that's very important today, particularly as you see these corporations that are, are funding causes and activities that you don't necessarily agree with.
Steve Bannon
How many weeks ago was the, was the dinner?
Debbie Jurgadis
Oh my goodness, six weeks ago. Yeah, six weeks. So much has happened, I mean, and
Steve Bannon
really that I guess it was 9.
Debbie Jurgadis
December 9th. Yeah, January 9th. And it went off really well. And that started, you know, that, that gave people the courage to talk honestly and openly about this real threat that we have, not only to Texas, but
Steve Bannon
to the country and the world.
Debbie Jurgadis
That's right. That's right.
Steve Bannon
So Tommy Robinson told us last night about London. Thank you so much. I appreciate you.
Debbie Jurgadis
Thank you. Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Let's go to Luke Macias. Luke is one of the smartest political minds in, in all of Texas. Luke, you join us now. Give us your assessment. You're pretty happy what you saw last night.
Luke Macias
I really am. I'm going to give you just a handful of things that people might not be talking about because I know everyone's talking about the national stuff, but the State Board of Education is a governing body that people don't really talk about. But conservatives have only had five to six conservative votes on this 15 member state board that determines the curriculum content for the public school children in Texas and really every red state in America. Because when we set the standards for the curriculum, that's what all the other red states by, because the curriculum companies only make that. We had four conservatives running in seats that were going to give conservatives a majority block of 8 to 9 solid conservative votes. And all of them won without runoffs in districts that are two congressional districts in size. And what that tells me is that the grassroots across Texas actually take time to educate themselves on these little known races and pick the right person. We saw the same thing in the Court of Criminal Appeals where the conservative person who's running to actually reverse that dumb decision, where the Attorney General cannot actually prosecute election fraud. John messenger won. Tom Smith is going to a runoff. Another key opportunity for grassroots conservatives to get a majority of conservatives on the Court of Criminal Appeals, a court that most Texans don't even know exists. But enough grassroots Texans tuned in to actually deliver us victories. We had two chairmen in the Texas House lose their elections handily. Stan Kitzman and Cecil Bell. And these are two individuals that were endorsed by President Trump and endorsed by everybody. They spent well over a million dollars. I think Stan Kitzman, especially if you count all the third party activities, spent maybe closer to $2 million to try to save his.
Steve Bannon
Hang on for a second. Don't bury the lead here. This is kind of a bombshell, right? I want to hit rewind because our audience has come in to understand Texas through the impeachment of Ken Paxton and then the big fight over the redistricting. And you know, Luke, one of the reasons people are so mesmerized by Texas is to see that these, these rhinos are more. The, the Republican establishment may be actually more Democratic than they are Republican and certainly that more than their maga. So talk about these two Chairman. This is monumental. What happened. These were to chairman. And remember, President Trump really didn't do individual endorsements. I think it was kind of a blanket endorsement. So President Trump doesn't know these guys personally. But an endorsement on your, on your campaign ad or your mailer says endorsed by President Trump, that carries a whole lot of weight down here in Texas. So walk me through these two, because these are too monumental. Shows you what the grassroots can do.
Luke Macias
Stan Kitzman is one of the 10 most liberal Republicans in the Texas House, and he is the. He is the chair of a quarter of the Texas budget, and he basically helps write a quarter of the Texas budget in major articles within it. He's a very liberal Republican. He teams up with Democrats often. And to your point, a lot of the endorsements given out were just given out because anybody who supported school choice got Governor Abbott, Donald Trump, and Ted Cruz endorsement. They just had it. And the reality is, I'm very happy that Ted Cruz that they pass school choice, but then people like Stan Kitzman thought they had basically names to use as a shield to prevent any kind of accountability for their record. And that's why those defeats, to your point, are really important to focus on. Two years ago, we had massive coalitions built against a lot of these more liberal incumbents. So it makes sense that 17 of them lost. The assumption this time was that grassroots wouldn't be able to defeat any incumbents because they all had if they voted for school choice. President Donald Trump, Governor Greg Abbott, and Senator Ted Cruz supporting them. And instead, what happened for a handful of these, even though they greatly outspent their opposition, was that they were still held accountable and they still did not return, which sends a message that even with that, you're not untouchable. If the bad incumbent Republicans are running for reelection in two years and don't have President Trump's endorsement, what are they gonna do then? And it gives a reminder to them that maybe y' all should focus on passing as much Republican policy as possible. There's open seats to also rejoice in. Gary Vandiver, one of the most liberal Republicans in the Texas House, left and then tried to handpick a Democrat primary voter and a Democrat donor to replace him, and that guy lost. He actually won early voting by 200, and then the Conservative won election day by 700. Another one of those districts in the top corner, Texarkana, which is the top corner right on the Arkansas border, where conservatives finally flip a seat that they've been trying to get a grassroots representative in from a long time. The Kitzman race, the Vandiver race. These are districts that are 80% Republican, but have been represented by some of the most liberal Republicans in our state. So now we can have strong Republicans and strong Republican seats and focus on November, which is going to be very contentious. I'll also say Beau French was a big surprise to a lot of people, because 90 days ago, almost nobody in Texas knew who this guy was. He runs, builds a massive grassroots coalition statewide and is Basically tied for first with Jim Wright, the current railroad commissioner, who is a Democrat donor who's done a lot of other things, aligned himself with the more liberal factions of the gop. So again, just these opportunities time and time again that grassroots have shown to step up, educate their fellow Texans and get a strong vote out. So, no doubt Texas moved to the right substantially last night. We've got some great congressmen lined up to come in that are fighters and some really good people poised in runoffs and key congressional races, which should make our congressional delegation in Texas more conservative than it's ever been. Those are just a couple of my
Steve Bannon
takeaways, Luke, because your show and you really focus on the grassroots. One thing I've noticed about the power of the grassroots here and why we spend so much time here to try to learn, because I think some of these lessons we can take throughout the country. And I saw this on the impeachment, and then we saw on the redistricting. If the grassroots in this state unify, they're on unbeatable political power. You saw this last night on Proposition 10, where it combined, and that had no money. It was all grassroots, more votes than Paxton and Cornyn combined. What would be your recommendation of the grassroots? Because the grassroots to me holds the key to the November election.
Captain Fennell
Right.
Steve Bannon
A lot of people are going to run out and spend a lot of money. A lot of consultants are going to get very wealthy. But the grassroots. How do we unify the grassroots between now and November, particularly with this tremendously contentious runoff that we've got? We've got about a minute here, and I would like to hold you through the break to get the whole answer, sir.
Luke Macias
Great. I'll give you the one minute version first. The reality is that I think focusing on our wins is an important thing to do to give us energy into not only the runoff, but the general. We're not going to win everything we want, but we need to recognize, as Texas grassroots, that we continue to get major conservative victories in this state, and that should energize us in November, even if we don't like everybody at the top of the ticket. It really should. And we need to understand that when we win these, we still do need as big a Republican majority as possible to pass Republican agenda items. Ending the Islamification of Texas is only going to come if Texans do really well in November. So we just need to understand when a maniac is at the door, quarreling brothers, end their feud and understand if we beat them, we have a wider path now because of the Grassroots victories in March. We have a wider path to actually getting more agenda items done next session in 2027.
Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon
Luke, I'm so tired from last night. I had the wrong block. We're in the last block of the show. We're going to have you back on your analysis and you're so smart in doing this. Victory begets victory. Let's focus on the victories. Luke, where do people go to get your content? Sir?
Luke Macias
On x Luke Macias TX and then on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts. It's the Luke Messiah Show. Once a week under 30 minutes. Texas politics analysis.
Steve Bannon
Look, look forward to having you back on brother. Great night last night and great work for you and your whole team. Frank Gaffney we got About a minute. Your summary thoughts. I'll have you guys back on either this afternoon or tomorrow. What do you got?
Frank Gaffney
Steve, you modestly say you've got an easy job. The hard part is allocating time and you do it brilliantly. And you've allocated so much to this and it made all the difference. I think we do have much work to do. We've got to bring the level of awareness of what Sharia is and what it's doing to the state of Texas and to our country, to everybody else who didn't vote on this ballot in Texas and across the country. And we've got a plan to do that. Ban Sharia is where you can find out more about why we're doing it and how. And I just wanted to say, finally, it would be really remiss if we didn't acknowledge the hand of God who is on upon this in this enterprise. And I'm deeply grateful to him as well as to all the rest of his team here.
Steve Bannon
Amen. That's absolutely true. This is providential, Frank. Thank you. I'll talk to you after the show. Karen Sigman Bringing Geert Villas over was a great way with Glenn Beck to kick this thing off. You see the results at least Phase one. We're still top of the first inn in your thoughts, ma'.
Debbie Jurgadis
Am. Oh, Steve, it's hard to express how unbelievably it's been an overwhelming victory. Yes, it's only the beginning, but what a way to begin. We were so concerned. You mentioned January 9th, your whole Texas, the opening that you have for War Room Texas. Most of that footage was taken from that the evening of the dinner, January 9th, with Geert filters. You, Glenn Beck and you, your passion, your courage and throwing down the challenge to the good people of Texas to stand up against this invasion, this incursion against America, the American way of life. I also want to so thank you for being the linchpin of all of this. It's been an honor to be part of it. Frank's been amazing. Of course. Jenny Story and Patriot Mobile Gear Filters and Glenn, Becky, you would also mention how this was a galvanizing issue and we came in at 95% on Prop 10, despite the fact that it was at the end of the ballot. It was the last of the propositions. And despite that, this came in with the biggest margin of victory. None of the other measures came in at 95%. We came in with the biggest one. So we're going to work Texas and more than corner. It's a very Heartening thing.
Steve Bannon
We're going to do some analysis this afternoon, have you back on and go through all of it. People need to see this because it was no money. It's a galvanizing issue. It brought people together, your social media, where they go for AFA and where
Debbie Jurgadis
they go for you all over. American Freedom alliance and AF Alliance. We're on. We're on X getter everywhere. Find us at American Freedom Alliance.
Steve Bannon
The hand of God.
Debbie Jurgadis
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
The hand of God was you inviting Gert Wilders. That timing was exquisite. That's the hand of God. That's the divine providence. Thank you, ma'.
Captain Fennell
Am.
Steve Bannon
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Luke Macias
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Steve Bannon
Thank you. You go there, you see the reviews and you get directly to Trevor Comstock. The feedback we've gotten is just unbelievable. Trevor, thank you so much. Look forward to seeing you tomorrow.
Luke Macias
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Incredible, incredible products, handcrafted. The appreciation of the audience is overwhelming. So I want to thank everybody. Trevor Comstock, what a great young man. Mike Lindell. I guess we're going to do it this afternoon. There is now Polis is actually admitting that he's reviewing the clemency and or pardon of Tina Peters. We're going to get Tina's team and we're going to Drill down on that this afternoon. Your thoughts on that? Because the War On Posse wants to talk deals, but your thoughts on Tina Peters?
Mike Lindell
Yeah, well, we're praying that he. That he does let her out. I mean, he's been holding her for well over a year now, and he. And it was brought to his attention this summer by the president, and he's been refusing to do it. So we just pray that he makes that, you know, that he makes the right decision to release her. She's a political prisoner like no other this country's ever seen, right in our own country. It's disgusting. And so we pray for that. And they looking forward to her getting out and. But I wanted to get on here, you guys. I'm back in Minnesota. We're moving. We are moving factories and I'm going to try and be for the new factory floor tomorrow here on the war room. But the. In the meantime, you guys, this is a war room exclusive. We want to. We're going to ship everything for free so we don't have to move these into the new factory. These are our big ticket item. The mattress toppers. Put them back on sale. And the mattresses. So anything you need for your bed, free shipping right to your front door. Plus the huge discounts you get at 90. The mattress toppers low is 99.98. So. And then we have all of. If you go to mypillow.com war room, you're gonna see up to 80% off. Most of it are 80% off.
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Episode 5188 | March 4, 2026
Theme: Texas Primary, Proposition 10 & the Power of Grassroots Conservatives
This episode of The War Room with Steve Bannon centers on the fallout and analysis of the 2026 Texas GOP primary, with particular focus on the landslide victory of Proposition 10, which prohibits Sharia law in Texas. Host Steve Bannon, joined by political activists and commentators including RNC committee woman Debbie Jurgadis, Captain James Fennell, Frank Gaffney, and political strategist Luke Macias, provides an in-depth look at grassroots organizing, the shifting dynamics within the Texas Republican Party, and implications for both local and national politics. The conversation is marked by a tone of urgency, triumph, self-congratulation for movement-building, and warnings about future challenges—particularly the need to convert popular sentiment into legislative action and party unity ahead of bruising runoff elections and a contentious general election.
“This is what I said from the beginning, is a unifier. Even Cornyn took out an ad saying that against Sharia law. ... This outperformed Prop 10 outperformed the two top people.”
—Steve Bannon [09:49]
“Focus is more powerful than money. It also shows you how important this issue is.” —Steve Bannon [23:21]
“Texas moved to the right substantially last night. ...The grassroots continue to get major conservative victories in this state, and that should energize us in November, even if we don’t like everybody at the top of the ticket.” —Luke Macias [43:27; 44:25]
“More people voted for Proposition 10, which had no money, than Cornyn and Paxton combined. ...That’s a lesson for the grassroots. The power of the grassroots, the power of the force, multiplier capabilities.” —Steve Bannon [32:05]
| Topic | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------|-------------| | Military Tensions: Iran, China, Taiwan | 03:07–08:16 | | Prop 10 Texas Victory and Unity | 08:24–16:44 | | Negative Campaigning & Party Division | 12:35–16:44 | | Prop 10 as Unifying/Action Item | 15:13–16:44; 24:59–29:21 | | The Power of Grassroots vs. Big Money | 23:21–29:21 | | Legislative and Gubernatorial Next Steps | 24:59–27:36 | | Down-ballot Victories & Grassroots Strategy | 37:40–45:19 | | Segment Wrap / Inspirational Close | 47:41–50:37 |
Debbie Jurgadis:
Twitter: @DebbieCanWeTalk
Website: americacanwetalk.org
Frank Gaffney:
Campaign: BanSharia.com
American Freedom Alliance: afalliance.org
Luke Macias:
X (Twitter): @LukeMaciasTX
Podcast: The Luke Macias Show (YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify)
If you missed this episode, here’s what you need to know:
In short: The War Room frames the 2026 Texas GOP primary as proof that grassroots agency—when aligned on a bold, unifying issue—can override establishment money and media, marking a blueprint for conservative action in Texas and beyond.