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This is an iHeart podcast.
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This Sunday at 10am Eastern, history sets sail.
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I'm going to have all folks from the Navy, national security experts. You do not want to miss this.
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President Donald J. Trump arrives in Norfolk, Virginia, aboard a mighty US Aircraft carrier.
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Fight, fight, fight. Win, win, win.
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As America celebrates 250 years of. Brace yourself for missile launches, roaring jets, thunderous firepower and the full force of America's seat strength on display. Hosted by Steve Bannon with live reporting from Jack Posobec and Steve Gruber, Real America's voice brings you this front row seat to Freedom in Motion. It's not just coverage, it's a celebration of America's might. RAV presents America 250. Sea Power and Freedom coverage begins this Sunday, 10am Eastern. See you there.
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You know, he was. He's well known for being impatient.
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You're holding up the whole damn show, Rockwell.
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He never took the position, you know. Now, son, let's sit down and talk about this. Don't be an idiot.
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Rickover quickly got a reputation that he and only he within the Navy would tell the truth.
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And Rickover was a charmer. I'm actually quite moved.
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The bottom line is Rickover was a genius.
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I can visualize machines operating right in.
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My mind in an sob.
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Never mind the good news, get to the problem. If he didn't get it right, if.
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They had a safety accident, that would.
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Be the end of the program. He was demanding things that our society, even during the Cold War, could not.
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Produce it on a Rickover schedule to Rickover's cost, the way Rickover wanted it. The fact that the United States has operated hundreds of nuclear reactors in the world's oce and never had a nuclear accident is the greatest contribution that Admiral Rickover has made to the country. Our job is to anticipate the worst.
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And then fix it.
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No one in my life influenced me more than Admiral Rickover, except for my father.
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Admiral Rickover had the greatest impact on.
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My life of any other man that I've ever met. The question comes up, what would Rickover do? And the answer is, I know exactly what I do, and I'm not willing to do that. But I don't get the things done that he got done. How can you run a Navy if everybody in it acts like you do? If everybody can tell, I never told the others how to act.
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I acted my own way.
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One of the giants of the 21st neighbor. We'll get to the filmmaker in a second. Michael Paxton will join us momentarily. President, United States just sent out on true Social it will be a big day with the Navy leaving now. The United States has the greatest military by far in the world. There will be a show of naval aptitude and strength. Enjoy watching. It will be broadcast everywhere. President DONALD J. Trump, DJT thank you, President Trump. We're doing it all day here, seven, eight hours. However it ends, the president gets back to the White House. Of course he gets back to the White House. I think they're in a situation room, 6 o', clock, 6pm I still think unless something otherwise, he's saying, hey, Hamas, you're the in or out. I've given you a deal. You got the framework for the deal. I need to see you going to accept it or not. Of course, a lot of maneuvering going in the background. We'll get all that in a moment. I still have the house. Can I go to Steve Gruber for a moment? Steve, you're on the, you're on the Truman, I guess that's pierside at the Norfolk Naval Station. Talk to us, Steve, about what's going to happen later in the day. We got Monica Crowley, Ambassador Crowley, coming up to tee things up, I think at around noon. Then the President's going to go out to the naval gunfire range off the Virginia Capes for a live fire exercise. I think it will last an hour or so, probably two. If the President's got anything to say about it. Then what's going to happen? So walk us through the day, sir.
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You know, it's a remarkable day and you just laid it out pretty well. Look, this is a celebration of the United States Navy. You look around, you've got thousands of it shipping around me here. You've got the USS Truman, you've got the kerflage over here, which is an antenna amphibious battle group ship. Just the most impressive stuff. Like I said, Steve, this is stuff that you're familiar with. But for me, I'm excited like a 12 year old because I see all this impressive and the scale and scope of these things for people who've never been next to a battleship, they don't understand how big these things are. This thing's the USS Truman is 1100ft long. It's 11 football fields long on top. It's a remarkable thing to see. But, but I do want to say something about what you guys were talking about here a minute ago about pivotal naval battles. And no more than in the last month have we seen this revival happening in America. And make no mistake, Providence has played a role in America's success in military battles. Especially on the water. You go to Admiral Hazard Perry in Lake Erie, sinking the British fleet when he was completely outnumbered. 1814, impossible to do. But I go to June 4, 1942, the Battle of Midway. We were outgunned, outmanned, out, had, and by God, we made it happen. Between the 4th and 7th of June, 1942, the Battle of Midway. It shifted that entire Pacific domination that you were talking about earlier, pushing the Japanese empire back and then of course, beating them later in the war. These are important considerations when you look at American history, Providence, you have to look at the grace of God that came in and made these things possible for us to win incredible battles against all odds time and again for this nation to be standing here 250 years later. Steven, I think that cannot be overstated when you look at the impressive. I mean it is really jaw dropping to sit here. Like I said, I'm like a kid looking at all this impressive machinery thinking, thank God I'm an American. And I really mean that because it's a great place to be. The weather's perfect. The president's going to arrive. He's going to speak here later. Jack Posobic is with him. He's going to go watch some live fire exercises. We look forward to that. We've got, by the way, cameras everywhere. I think we've got a dozen different camera setups here on Real America's Voice today. So that's pretty exciting. Let me do one more thing before I jump back to you. Let me thank the good sponsors here like Patriot Mobile, America's only Christian conservative wireless network helping us power this day. If you don't have Patriot Mobile, I don't know why Patron Mobile does the things that you care about supports the organizations and the things you care about. So you should support Patriot mobile. Patriot mobile mobile.com voice. Your first month is free. I think today with the promo code voice there. I got that in. What a lovely day.
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Tell you what, Gruber, you totally nailed it. In fact, I'm a go. I gotta go off your comment there which is so perceptive. This is one of the reasons I think the Navy hymn is so powerful for those who've been in the Navy because of the divine providence intervention in so many of our naval battles. I want to. So I'm going to pivot here. I want to go back to. President Trump is a lover of history, particularly military history. He has seen the Samuel Elliot Morrison off of his great writing of the naval operations of the second World War that made the film Victory at Sea a multi part documentary that Michael Pack has appreciated. Such a great film. President Trump and moves in. President Trump today is the enthusiasm. I mean, he loves this. This is like. He's very much like Teddy Roosevelt in that regard of. He is looking forward to today and it's a long time coming. I think we should have done it many years ago, but President Trump is doing today and it couldn't be more appropriate on the 250th anniversary of the, of the birth of the Navy. But Fennell, you first and then Rickards on this. It's about, I want to make the point about the Chinese Communist Party Navy today in World War II, given all the overwhelming power in the buildup of the Imperial Japanese Navy where they actually thought, although the Imperial Japanese army kind of ran the deal with Tojo and the military dictatorship that essentially ran Japan, their navy was the striking force against the United States, the great power and the Economic Co Prosperity Sphere. They had to take out the United States Navy and they were going to take it out of Pearl Harbor. One thing we found both at Pearl harbor and Midway and Leyte golf and the ability to fight the ship, the ability to make those naval, naval battles unlike any other battles in the world because they're so lethal, they're so confusing. There's so much happening, it's so happening so quickly that their inability, what we call fight the ship to make fundamentally bad decisions in the deciding moment when it counts. And that what we call the unforgiving minute was one of the central reasons besides intelligence and firepower and our courage was our leaders like the Royal Navy, like Nelson, and had we been trained, made those correct decisions. So, Fennell, I'll talk to you first. The Chinese Communist Party, the argument, I still kind of make the argument they ain't never fought at sea, right. In sea battles and sea warfare. And I realize you got technology, you got AI, you got robots, you got all that. But at the end of the day, it comes down to humans and human calculation and the courage under intense gunfire and death and destruction to. To make the correct decisions in the unforgiving minute. Sir.
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Yes, Steve, you know, with Gruber's enthusiasm and saying he's a 12 year old, being there at Norfolk and seeing all the ships, you know, if I was there, I'd be exactly the same. And I served in uniform for 29 years, you just can't get enough of it. But let me tell you, just this last week during their National Day in Hong Kong, the Chinese had a number of their warships in Port Hong Kong and they had thousands of people lining up to go on board their ships and see their naval power. And then on 22nd of September, the Chinese launched for the first time ever, a fifth generation stealth fighter using electromagnetic aircraft launch system from the deck of their newest carrier, the Fujian. Something that the United States Navy has yet to do. The USS Gerald R. Ford has yet to be able to launch F35 Lightning II stealth fighter from the deck of the Ford. So they have skipped an entire generation of technology in certain key areas like steam catapults. They went from ski jumps now into electromagnetics. So the question that you ask is do they have the wherewithal and the knowledge and the ability to fight and win a war? And that is to be determined. But I can tell you from my career in Naval intelligence and watching them is that they are testing and training like we used to test and train. They're not controlled like the Soviets were in terms of their fighters are getting minute by minute control, they have limited fuel, they don't want them to defect. And all of those kinds of things that we saw with the Soviets, we don't see that with the Chinese. In fact, what we see is the opposite. They're taking to heart the issues and the abilities to empower their people to connect, to use electromagnetic spectrum, to integrate fires from the land, from the air, from this under the sea, on the sea. And this is something that should worry us, doesn't mean that we have to give up, but we should not take it lightly or for granted that their lack of being in a naval war is something that makes them inferior to us. For many of us, even though we've launched those strikes into Tehran this week and we fought 35 years of, of carrier operations where we were flying basically unopposed over Afghanistan and Iraq, that's a lot different than, than a naval war when we're fighting inside that first and second island chain against a force that's concentrated.
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Yes.
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And has been working and practicing together to sink the US Pacific Fleet. And make no mistake, for a quarter of a century, the Chinese Communist Party has been funding and building a military force across their Navy, their space, their air forces and their undersea forces to sink the U.S. pacific Fleet and the 7th Fleet. And we better be prepared for that.
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Yeah. And I don't know, psychologically the American people are ready to have a carrier battle group go to the bottom off of Taiwan. We'll talk all about that today. We're taking a short commercial break. We're packed with some of the smartest people about Naval warfare and geopolitics. We're going to return a Navy 250 in a moment.
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Okay, welcome back. I really want to thank Real America's Voice everybody for doing all the logistics day. It's going to be, it's going to be amazing. It's going to be a little complicated. We're going to juggle. We have so many great folks about naval operations, about strategy, geopolitics, all of it. I want to go to Michael Pack and Michael the last 600 meters, which is essentially a film basically about the Marine Corps in fighting in Fallujah. First Fallujah, but then you got, you got what Najaf and then second Fallujah. I want to talk today and the movie's fantastic and I think we're going to play it actually. Was it October 30th? You'll give us the details of that. But your film on Admiral Rickover, I think it came off an assessment. You had either seen polling or I had that they did a poll and I think only 3% of the American people recognize his name and he is a giant of the 20th century. He's a giant because he is the father of the nuclear. Walk me through what inspired you to do to do Rickover's story. How did you convince Tim Blake Nelson to play Admiral Rickover? The film's fabulous and I don't think it's been seen enough and we gotta make sure we push it out.
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Michael Pack, well, people can see it. It's on Amazon. If you go to it's Rickover the Birth of Nuclear Power. I agree that he's really underappreciated. You know, in all the celebration of the Navy, it's easy to neglect submarines and nuclear Submarines, of course, the aircraft carriers are nuclear powered too. But you know, Admiral Rickover is like a hero of the Cold War. And I think that whole war is actually neglected. You know, World War II, far more dramatic Midway as someone just was talking about a very dramatic battle. But.
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Hey, Michael, Michael. Mike, hang on for one second. Let's go to Jack Posobec. Got some. Okay. Okay, fine. By the way, we're gonna have to play it by ear. Let's get Poso back up. Michael, continue on. We're gonna go to Jack Posobic live when we get him. We thought we had him. We didn't just continue on about Rickover.
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You know, he is an undersung hero, just like you said. And I also think he's the kind of naval hero that doesn't get neglected. I mean, Pete Hegseth and others talk about the war ethos and that is really important. But Admiral Rickover was a great engineer, an entrepreneur within the Navy. People compare him to Steve Jobs or somebody like that. It's hard to. He innovated within the Navy and created, as you say, the nuclear Navy. It's a huge achievement and we would not have won the Cold War without it. I think in a way, the Nautilus going under the pole, under the North Pole should be celebrated in the same way that Midway is celebrated. It's a sent a signal to the Soviets that we controlled the terrain under the sea as important really as the surface of the sea.
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The reason the Cold War didn't become hotter than it was was because of Rickover in the nuclear Navy and our dominance in naval power. This is the Soviets got the joke right and started building such a global. A global navy to try to catch up with this. And it's the reason Reagan, the central part of Reagan's take down the evil empire before he got to Star wars and all that was first, we're going to show them that we're going to be. We're going to go from 200 ships in a deteriorating navy right to back to 600 capital ships and tell them that we're prepared to fight them everywhere in the world. If it was not for Rickover, number one, I'm not so sure we would have won the Cold War. And number two, it would have been a lot hotter. I think it would have gotten a lot hotter than it did in actual gunfire. Michael, pack your thoughts.
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Absolutely. I mean, he is responsible for one third of the triad, you know, nuclear submarines, to say nothing of aircraft carriers and commercial nuclear power. But yeah, without that Part of the Triad. And Admiral Rickover, a big advocate for nuclear submarines. He pointes out. It's the survivable leg of the Triad. You could shoot down planes, you could hit ICBM silos, which Soviets knew where they all were. It was the survivable element and we had dominance in that area. And that really. I think you're right. It kept a lid on the Cold War and he was tireless in that way. We don't really celebrate, in fact, the heroes of the Cold War period. But Admiral Rickover is unfairly neglected. I hope my movie does help celebrate him. I think people should go and understand him. I think that kind of the Rickover approach is really needed today if we're going to really rebuild the Navy. In addition to the warrior ethos and tough fighting men and women, we need to know how to commission submarines, how to deal with contractors, and how to demand the engineering standards that he demanded. You know, he reformed the Navy at so many levels and they hated him for it. I mean, he was a complete maverick. I don't know if somebody like that could survive today. You know, fought every CNO and Secretary of the Navy, you know, from the beginning of the end. They didn't even want to give a pun.
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So I was, I was there when they. I was there when they forced him to retire with some 80 some years old. No, he's a giant. I'm going to get into more about Rickover and about that. But the one thing we have to get the mentality of Rick over to make America great again, it was his zero tolerance. They had to have zero tolerance for any fault in the nuclear power plant. He knew that if it ever had a problem at sea, the whole thing would be scuttled. The whole thing would be shut down. Talk about his maniac focus on perfection, on human perfection with machines. That to me is his lasting legacy. That this guy thought this thing through and understood you couldn't have anything go wrong. And I have to have basically average sailors, average Americans that I train as enlisted guys. And I got to take this officer corps and make sure that. Because I'm getting maybe above average people and maybe they got certain qualities that are excellent. But we have to take the entire operation like the Royal Navy did. You got to take an organization up to like. You got to level up like five levels. Talk to me about that, Michael.
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Well, that's right. They had, you know, to go from diesel submarines to nuclear submarines required a level of engineering perfection that not not only the Navy, but no company had ever seen. And he had lots of ways of doing that. I mean, in our interview, Ralph Nader, a big opponent of nuclear power, said that if Admiral Rickover ran commercial nuclear power, he would not oppose it because he knows it would be safe. Not sure I 100% believed him, but still, everybody knows the nuclear Navy was safe. He was demanding. I mean, he had techniques like he had spies at every one of the contractors, and he forbade them from ever socializing with the contractors. You can't go out for dinner. You can't become their friends. They were effectively spies, and the contractors hated him. But he knew what was going on and he knew when there was a problem and he knew how to fix it. And all along the chain, he set new standards and new techniques. They're new in a way, but I think they could be relearned today. And if we're going to build up the Navy and build up the military, we need to relearn those lessons. And luckily, Rick Everest example is there to study.
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Okay, President Trump, there you see Marine One. President Trump, we're now getting ready to start things. Absolutely incredible. Jack posobes with the president to make sure that President Trump arriving at Air Force One at Joint Base Andrews didn't do a press gaggle. I guess President Trump taking it seriously today. Michael, hang on for one second. I want to bring in Captain Brent Sadler. Captain Sadler, you were a nuclear submariner. I think you came in. Were you interviewed by Rickover or you post that generation? I know that Admiral Rickover, I think his last tour is when I was still at Grundoon, a junior officer of the Chief of Naval Operations. Did you come in afterwards? Because Rickover used to interview everybody before he accepted you in there, Captain Sadler.
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Yeah, thanks for having me on. I was enjoying the conversation about Admiral Rickover. Now, I missed the joy of having the admiral interview me, but I definitely had his successor in 1993, that first interview that all midshipmen from the Naval Academy had to go through, and certainly anyone that was going to go want to become a nuclear submariner, had to endure. Highly technical and just as pointed as it was, I think, under Rickover. But the things like cutting the front part of the chair so that you were always sliding forward and uncomfortable, some of those shenanigans, those were gone by the time I went through.
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There's a Commander in Chief right there. Commander in Chief leaving Marine One, going to Air Force One. The First Lady's with him. Like I said, President Trump couldn't be more enthusiastic about this that you saw his truth Social pac. Before I go back to Captain Sadler, talk a little bit about Rickover's interviews, what he would do. He had a tradition of being. He wanted to see what people responded under pressure.
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That's right. So he didn't just ask technical questions, he tried to ask questions that you couldn't possibly anticipate, and he was devastating. If you didn't give the right answer, you were out. And you're correct, Steve. He interviewed absolutely everybody. Every midshipman who wanted to be in the nuclear navy. He interviewed them from the time. From the time he ran the nuclear Navy in the 50s to the mid-80s when he left. And we dramatized three or four of these interviews in the film, and people never forgot them. There were many people traumatized by them. One that I like that puts him in a nice setting is he demanded. He asked every person whether they repaired their own car, and if they didn't repair their own car, they were out. That was the end. And he talked to a female who wanted to be in the nuclear navy, asked her if she repaired her car, and she said no. And he said, well, you're out. And then she called him on Monday and said, I've spent the weekend taking my car apart and putting it back together again. Just wanted you to know. And he said, well, if you did that, you're in. So that's Rickover. He asks a different kind of question, a question that takes who you are. He can always be talked back to you.
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This is the point I was trying to make about fighting the ship. Why did Rickover put youngmanshipmen under these pressure situations? Why did Rick overt want to test what their mettle was, not their technical knowledge, which is very important. They had to be brilliant. You had to be the top of your class or close to it. You had to know technically. He understood that in running a nuclear power plant on a Navy submarine. Right. And in charge of ballistic missiles. Right. That are part of the triad of the nuclear force. You are going to be put under circumstances. They're going to test you as a person. Right. Just like at Midway, just like at Pearl harbor, just like at Leyte Golf, all the great naval battles. Gruber's right. It's that unforgiving minute is what Rickover is trying to do. What is your character? How are you going to respond under pressure? I'm going to put you. You're 18 and 19 years old. I'm going to put you under pressure, and if you can't handle it, you're not going to be able to handle it later on. And so you're out. And he was brutal. He was ruthless and he had to be. We wouldn't have had a nuclear navy. We wouldn't have had we wouldn't be the dominant sea power. We are without Admiral Rickover. And that's why he's one of the giants of the 20th century. Hang on for one second. We're take a break. The president I guess we're going to try to get our feedback of President Trump leaving Air Force One. There we are right there. We got a clip from Jack Posobec. We're going to play it all. We're going to juggle it all. We're going to be back in a moment in the war room in real America's voice. Continuing coverage of Navy 250. Back in a moment.
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Texas over here awaiting the arrival of President Trump.
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First lady Melania Trump join V. Andrews as you see Air Force One behind me.
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President stairwell Hudson taxed.
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We're waiting for him to be here imminent.
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You understand that he may take some questions.
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We'll see what goes on with that. Navy 250th getting underway down Virginia.
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We'll be down conducting exercises.
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A sea power demonstration on USS Bush. Then we'll travel by a helicopter to.
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The USS Truman where President Trump will.
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Give remarks the world's finest Navy on their 250th birthday. Jack Kasovich for being events. Jack Posoberg right there. Naval intelligence officer on a the world's greatest Navy. Fantastic. He's on Air Force One. We see at the Air Force taxiing right there getting ready to take off. There we go. Taxiing out there. We're going to cover that live. Michael Pack before I let you punch and I'll try to get you back later in the day if you're available. But Michael, I want to also make sure people understand about Admiral Rickover. Admiral Ricker was Jewish in a time the Navy's always been at least in the let's say the 19th and 20th century. I think the more aristocratic of the services very hierarchical very in customs and traditions. A lot of those that came from the Royal Navy and had a certain ways of doing things. Talk about really Rick over his toughness a lot of it was being a young Jewish midshipman and then a naval officer in what was not particularly accommodating to the Jewish faith or to people that were Jews, sir.
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Indeed. I mean, you mentioned this on the break. You know, he was in the Naval Academy and in his yearbook, they perforated his page so that if you didn't want that annoying Jew in your yearbook, you could tear it out without actually damaging the yearbook. A very Navy persnickety thing, if you don't mind my saying, Steve. And it was shocking. I mean, his actual page and next to it was a parody of a Jew with a hook nose. I mean, you could not. These things were real. You know, he was not very Jewish, but his name was Hyman Rickover. He was obviously Jewish. He sounded Jewish. Another amazing thing about Admiral Rickover is he fled Poland as a young boy and he remembers seeing Kazakhs coming into his village on a pogrom, on horses, with sabers slashing Jews. And to go from that to creating the most advanced, a nuclear submarine, nuclear aircraft carrier is an amazing transformation of firepower in his lifetime and that he was instrumental in. But he came here speaking only Yiddish and he learned English, so he was here. So they came to Chicago. And he only went to the Naval Academy to get a free education. So, yes, he had to deal with a sort of, I would call it more of a gentleman's agreement kind of antisemitism that was in the Navy at that time. And as you said also in the break, he was not everybody's kind of naval officer. They loved the idea of naval officers on the bridge commanding troops. So he was not that kind of a person. He was the engineer, the technology genius.
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We're raised. When you're in the Navy or the stories you read that it's inspire you, like me, it's Lord Nelson, right? At Trafalgar, it's John Paul Jones, you're on the bridge. Guns up. You know, I've only begun to fight. I have not yet begun to fight. He was there we go right there. Air Force One. Talk about technology. Air Force One leaving Andrews Air Force Base, not Joint Base Andrews. Come on, man, we gotta get all the wokeness out. Andrews Air Force Base and heading down to the Norfolk Naval Station with the commander in chief and Jack Posovic's with him. Steve Gruber is going to be deployed out, I think on a combatant here shortly. So we're going to. We're going to have amazing coverage, camera coverage of all this pack. He's an extraordinary Individual. And you're right, he's an engineering, basically an engineering duty officer. An engineering officer back in those days when those guys were also considered second and third class citizens inside the hierarchy of the Navy. But he hammered his way through and most importantly convinced everybody. And then he delivered. It just wasn't making the sales pitch. He delivered time and time and time and time again because he said we cannot have any mistakes. If we have any mistakes, they're going to shut this whole program down. Pac, where do people go get the last 600 meters? I think we're going to have a special showing of the last 600 meters later in October which we're going to make a big deal about. And we gotta do something on the Rickover film to make sure that everybody sees it and understands why Admiral Hyman Rickover is one of the giants of the 20th century. Where do they go, sir?
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Well, the Rickover film, the birth of nuclear power. You can stream it, get it on Amazon, stream it or buy it. And the last 600 meters, which is about the biggest battles since Vietnam, Fallujah and Najaf. They were mainly Marine battles. Now look, the Marines are technically part of the Navy, though they don't like to admit it. However, we are happy that they are.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What do you mean technically don't buy into the Marines? The Marines don't think they're any part of the Navy. Trust me, they don't think that.
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But we know that. But we know that they are. But our film, the last 600 meters will be broadcast by PBS after many years of not wanting to broadcast it. November 10th at 10pm the day before Veterans Day, the Marine Corps birthday. I'm sure you'll have celebration of their birthday too, Steve, and it's a perfect time slot for it and we hope everybody watches it. I think that it does celebrate the warrior ethos. You know, it's a different kind of warrior in the last 600 meters, not the Admiral Rickover kind. And it takes both kinds of. To make a great military. I often think of Admiral Rickover's long fight back and forth with Curtis LeMay about which part of the nuclear triad counted most. But you need and Curtis LeMay was very much in the tough military war at all cost kind of guy. And it takes both kinds to make a great military. America was lucky to have them both. Even though they did not like each other.
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Both, although they hated each other, although both of them understood technical proficiency and understanding. It's the, it's the great question that Rickover said if you don't, if you don't fix your own car and strip your own car down, you're in the wrong line. You're in the long, long wrong line of work here in the nuclear navy. By the way, pac, you got great range, as we say in the business. Last 600 meters, hour and a half hour, 45 minute gunfight. And then you've got Admiral Rickover, which is a brilliant statement about human, human excellence and pushing the envelope. So thank you very much. So where's your social media, Michael? Where they go to go to your company?
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Well, they can go to our websites, which is palladiumpictures.com which is our current films and our older films like the less like. Admiral Rickover is on the manifold productions website, manifoldproductions.com my own social media is michaelpack and I encourage your people to come and we also have a training program for young conservative filmmakers which I encourage all your viewers and listeners to get filmmakers they know to apply to.
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Perfect and why Michael Pack is one of my heroes because for three years he stood the endurance test of Mitch McConnell. These people torturing him and the media torturing him as he stood as a nominee for President Trump to take over essentially Voice of America and the entire global platform. He had every opportunity to quit. He would not quit, no matter how much they tore him apart. He says, I'm not going to do this if we fold. If I personally fold. If I personally fold, they'll kill everybody. Right? And I'm going to stand in here. And that is. I remember you saying he is a moral hero, sir.
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I remember you saying, you didn't think I had it in me, Steve. And I didn't think I had it in me either. But when push comes to shove, you have to, either you're, you back down and you're humiliated or you stand up. I mean, it's just, it's maybe it is my mild version of that, of that hour of testing, you know, who knows what you're going to do? But right.
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No, no, no. You came through the test. There's. Hey, in that first term there were so many people that quit and just said, I can't take it. I'm a drop nomination. You said, I'm not going to do three years. I think the longest outstanding denomination that three years and three months. The longest I think outstanding nomination to ever be confirmed eventually in the history of the country. You stood in the breach, dude. You're a hero. You're one of the toughest hombres because You've been tested. You came through the test of fire, sir. Appreciate you being on here today, Michael.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, brother. He's one of the giants, right? He's a pack. Every opportunity to stand down and no, I'm not going to do it. President Trump nominated me. I'm going to stick out. I don't care how they destroy me. And, man, that is the enduring moment. Captain Sadler, you wrote a book on a couple books, one amazing book on naval strategy. You've also been a nuclear submarine officer. I just want to ask you. We're going to go to break here in a couple of minutes. The Navy, I argue, in the 12 Day War and the total obliteration part, the expeditionary force that we sent that had the great, you know, B2 bombers, the stealth bombers, and coming in and blowing up the caves and the things. It was a good old United States Navy and submarines and Tomahawk missiles that took down, I don't know, 40% of the apparatus. What do you think about that? It's still the Navy. When you want to land a blow, you know the Navy's going to be there, sir.
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Absolutely.
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And if you want to keep landing those blows at a distance, it's. The Navy is really the only one that can do it. The Air Force can surge, but again, even coming half a world away, it takes a long time. It takes a lot out of the aircraft and the people to do that. But a Navy, an aircraft carrier, or an SSGN submarine with over 100 cruise missiles ready, that's a kind of firepower that you can sustain for more than just a day.
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We got about a minute before we go to break. You wrote a book on naval strategy for the 21st century. Do you think that people on Capitol Hill understand the importance of the United States Navy in not just the defense, but the projection of American power?
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Yeah, I think they do. But it wasn't something that just happened overnight. As soon as I cut my lines to the Navy and retired in the summer of 2020, I could actually start talking with my inside voice. Outside and at my perch up here in Capitol Hill, I started engaging aggressively. And I'd have to say, after a few years, it's pretty clear that folks understand that a strong Navy is not a partisan issue, it's an American issue. They understand that what keeps our economy humming safely and securely and also keeps our interest in American people safe is having that ability to reach out and touch the bad guys wherever and wherever they think they're hiding. And the Navy is the best way to do that without having to pull the trigger most times, but took a lot of effort to get to that point. Laws and legislations acknowledging that title 10 changes in the last few years, but there's still too much work to be done at this late stage as China's really on the clock to be ready to take us on in 2027.
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Wow. Captain, hang around. We're going to talk about that in 2027 as kind of an inflection point. We're here at Navy250. The President, United States. The commander in chief is heading towards Norfolk Naval Station. Jack Posobic's with him. One o'.
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Clock.
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We're going to have a naval gunfire exercise. We're going to have some speeches before then. Short commercial break Back in the War Room. Just a moment.
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We'll be right back with more Navy 250, sea power and freedom. We want to thank our sponsor, Birch Gold Group for standing with Rav. Welcome back to Navy 250, sea power and freedom. We want to thank our sponsor, Patriot Mobile for standing with Rav.
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President, according to your plan, the Palestinian.
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Authority may control Gaza the day after Hamas.
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Now, can you please explain me what.
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Is the purpose of by doing this.
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If according to Israel, they are paying to terrorists, they're paying salaries to terrorists.
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Who are you with?
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Who you with, son of 14? Israel. My name is Libby.
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Well, it's a great deal for Israel and it's a great deal for everybody. And you want to get your hostages back, right? You want them back or do you not want them back? And it's a great deal for Israel. It's a great deal for the entire Arab world, Muslim world and world. So we're very happy about it.
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When do you think the hostages will start being freed?
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I think very soon. They're in negotiation right now as we speak. They've started the negotiation. It'll last a couple of days. We'll see how it turns out. But I'm hearing it's going very well.
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Are you open to extending the Affordable Care act subsidies?
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We want to fix it so it works. It's not working. Obamacare has been a disaster for the people, so we want to have it fixed so it works. We're going to look at that. It was amazing. Portland is burning to the ground. It's insurrectionists all over the place. It's antifa. And yet the politicians who are petrified, look, the politicians are afraid for their lives. That's the only reason that they say like there's nothing happening. And you've Seen it. The place is burning down and they've got. Pretend like there's nothing happening. So we'll take a look at the order. We haven't seen the order yet. You're going to celebrate the navy today. The navy is deployed in the Caribbean against the cartels. What is the next step of this war against drug trafficking in South America? Well, we're going to stop drug trafficking, and we've done a lot. There's nobody. There's nobody coming in on the water that I can tell you. The water is like, there's nobody. There's no drugs coming in on the water. And we'll take. Take a look at what phase two is. Made a big difference. Flexibility on the Hamas plan, we have very little. We don't need flexibility because everybody's pretty much agreed to it, but there'll always be some changes. But the Hamas plan, I tell you, it's amazing. You can have peace. If you think about it, peace in the Middle east for the first time in, they say, really 3,000 years. So I'm very honored to be a big part of that. Look, they've been fighting for a plan for years. We get the hostages back almost immediately. Negotiations are going on right now, will probably take a couple of days, and people are very happy about it.
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I.
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Disagree with that judge. I wasn't served well. If they put judges like that on. I wasn't served well by the people that pick judges. I can tell you things like that are just too bad. I appointed the judge and he goes like that. So I went. It wasn't served well. Obviously, I don't know the judge, but if he made that kind of a decision. Portland is burning to the ground. You have agitators, insurrectionists. All you have to do is look at the. Look at the television, turn on your television, read your newspapers. It's burning to the ground. The governor, the mayor, the politicians are petrified for their lives. And you have a judge like that. He ought to be a president. That judge ought to be a game to Governor.
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You say you're targeting the worst of the worst, but Governor Pushburg said that most of the people I have taken in no criminal conviction.
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So which is it?
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He's wrong, number one. He's wrong, number two. I really believe he's afraid for his life somehow. When you can have 40 or 50 people killed over the last couple of months, hundreds of people wounded. There's no place like that in the world. Hundreds of people wounded. 50, 55 people shot and killed. And Pritzker gets up and says what a wonderful place it is. They need help. Washington D.C. is now a safe place. You're not going to get mugged or hit. You're not going to get raped. You're not going to get anything. Washington D.C. went from a hellhole to a safe place. I love the way you nod. Is it true though, these people. A lot of the people right here were. Wait, a lot of the people right here were mugged reporters. And you know what? You're safe now. Nothing. We got no crime. It took 12 days to solve the problem. 12 days. And we're going to do that in Chicago. We're going to do that in Portland. Now, Portland is different. That's a bunch of paid insurrectionists. But you have a lot of paid people in Chicago too. I believe the politicians are under threat because there's no way somebody can say that things are wonderful in Chicago. Almost 55, I think it was 55 people over a short period of time have been murdered in Chicago, have been shot. 222 people over a short period of time have been hit, have been wounded, not died. But 55 people died over a short period of time. You're telling me there's no city in the world like that. We're going to straighten it out. And I think that Pritzker, he's not a stupid person. I think that Pritzker is afraid for his life. We want to make it better. What about the way off you. Well, I call them Democrat layoffs. They're Democrat layoffs. They're causing it. We're ready to go back. You know, we have a record setting economy. We have a record setting country. Prices are way down. We're doing better than the country has ever done. And the Democrats hate seeing that. It's up to them. Anybody laid off, that's because of the Democrats. Thank you.
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It states that was his gaggle before he took Marine One to.
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To.
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There. I think he's waiting for the first lady to join him to Andrews Air Force Base. The president now is, I think it's close to arriving in Norfolk, the Norfolk Naval Station. President, the First Lady. We'll watch that. I'm going to go momentarily live to Steve Gruber. Like I said, they're going to be some talks I think around 1220. Ambassador Monica Crowley, who's also in charge of overseeing America 250 is in charge of, I think with Justin Caporo of doing Navy 250, which is today. There's the first lady and the president getting on Marine One.
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And.
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Doing a fantastic. Just an Amazing job. Do we have Gruber? Ambassador Monica Crowley's going to say a few words. I think around 12:20, 12:30, going to be joined by two Navy Seals. We're there with Steve Gruber right now. Steve Gruber, what do you got for us?
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Mr. Bannon?
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I got Jason Redmond here with me. He is a wounded warrior, retired Navy seal, served in Afghanistan, Iraq. Jason, thank you for being here today. Steve.
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Honored. What an amazing thing to be a part.
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What an amazing thing. You've got the Purple Heart there on your lapel. Obviously you've been in some tough spots. You've got New York Times bestsellers. But even so, what an amazing thing. Tell us what comes to mind when you look around here.
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Well, it's a lot of what I'm getting ready to deliver in the speech I'm going to deliver. And my speech is really, really written for all these sailors. You know, I grew up looking at the history. My grandfather served in World War II. My dad served in Vietnam. And then moving forward, it was naturally for me to choose this life of service. But really this is a celebration of the amazing history of the Navy. From the beginning of our inception, the Revolutionary War, we beat the greatest naval might in the world. You know, the British fleet at that time, time. And we've carried that forward over two, you know, for 250 years. Well, now the challenge is how do we maintain that supremacy? How do we encourage these young sailors to understand you are laying the foundation for the next 250 years.
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An absolute inspiration sitting here to talk to this man. Obviously, you paid a price. Clearly you paid a price. You have no regrets from what I can tell here.
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No, I am so thankful for the service I had. I talk about this. I literally serve with some of the legends of the 911 generation. My story is part of the 250 year history. The things I was able to do, hitting targets in Iraq and Afghanistan, sacrificing brothers in this war, that's all part of the fabric that makes the Navy great. And that's what we're celebrating here. Not only that, to showcase to the world we have one of the greatest military force in the world. There's a little bit of a narrative, oh, is the military getting weak? The answer is no. And with this new focus on, hey, we are the Department of War, we need to be lethal. Our sailors, our Marines, they need to understand that. And that is the focus. And I think what President Trump wants to showcase.
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Let me ask you something about that because I saw Pete Hegseth show Up at an event here over the last couple of days and they just flocked to him. Do the military person personnel, if you listen left wing media, you think that he was a disliked individual. I, I'm not feeling that from you.
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Well, I have an inside track. I'm friends with Pete. I worked with them with the Concerned Veterans for America tour. When they tried to tear Pete down and say did this and he did that, I was there. So I didn't see that. Pete understands that the military is about war. At the end of the day, make no mistake, we achieve peace by being in a strong posture to execute war if it comes. None of us want war. But I think what the Secretary understands is we must train for war. And the stronger we are, the more capable we are, the more lethal we are. Our adversaries, it makes them afraid and it makes them question should I engage, should I press against the United States? That's what we're showing here. Secretary Hegseth understands that.
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Jason Redmond, tell the folks who maybe are hearing your name or seeing you for the first time, your story, your personal story a little bit.
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I, I, I'm super blessed. Joined the Navy in 1992. Both pre 911 so I got to experience that. Conducted counter drug operation Central South America. Got a commission right down the street here. Become a young SEAL officer. Made some mistakes which is part of my journey. Growing up understanding what it is to lead Iraq or Afghanistan, then Iraq. Severely wounded in Iraq. Shot eight times by an enemy machine gun. All my life to my teammates and some of the crew, the Navy doctors and nurses. But got another name for myself of resilience and overcoming with a sign I posted on my door today. Author, huge veteran advocate. I want to make sure our veterans are taken care of. I want to make sure our military is taken care of. Part of a tech company, Turbo Vets, revolutionizing the way we take care of our veterans. All these things, that's my heart and soul.
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And taking care of marriages in the American family. You care about that too.
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Amen.
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Yeah.
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Our book Mission Invincible Marriage focused on how do we help our our service members understand that you can have both.
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God bless America. Jason Redmond, Steve Banning. It's an honor to be here today.
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Steve, just ask Jason to stick around around. We're taking a short commercial break at the top of the hour. I got a couple questions for him when we get back. Navy250 the commander in chief of the United States is headed to Norfolk Naval Station right now. Will land momentarily. We've got activity on the USS Truman. And we're going to have a lot of activity on the USS Bush out at the naval gunfire range off the Virginia Capes. We're going to explain it all to you, including the Battle of the Virginia Capes when we return in the war room.
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We'll be right back with more Navy 250 sea power and freedom.
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