THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, NOVEMBER 13TH, 2025 (EP.#4927)

Summary

Real America’s Voice: The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon

Episode #4927, November 13, 2025
Date Released: November 14, 2025
Key Guests: Laura Loomer, Joel Gilbert, Dan Floyd, Trevor Comstock, Mike Lindell

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Overview

This episode of The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon centers on the contentious debate surrounding U.S. military aid to Israel and the broader implications for American foreign policy. The show opens with economic concerns, including AI boom skepticism, before shifting focus to Laura Loomer’s advocacy for Israeli sovereignty and the call to end American aid, notable media pushback, and an exclusive interjection from Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu. Further discussions explore the influence of foreign entities in Congress, the role of new right-wing culture initiatives, and health industry skepticism.

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Main Segments & Discussion Points

1. Economic Turmoil: AI, Energy, and the “Socialization of Risk”

[00:06–05:30] Stephen K. Bannon

• Bannon denounces mainstream media and predicts turbulent times, specifically highlighting concerns over an "AI bubble."
• Critiques the closure of Michael Burry’s fund and broader difficulties in valuing AI companies.
• References a Zero Hedge report: "$5 trillion needed now for AI data center build-outs, with $1 trillion expected to come from the public."
• Expresses outrage at the system, arguing that average Americans are being forced to shoulder risk for private sector gain—"the grossest example since the 2008 bailouts."
• "Very scary...more regulation to open a nail salon than the four frontier [AI] labs." (Bannon, [04:48])

2. Interview: Laura Loomer on Israeli Sovereignty & U.S. Aid

[05:34–26:25] Key Segment – Laura Loomer & Stephen K. Bannon

Background and Loomer’s Credentials

• Bannon introduces Loomer as "one of the most courageous people I know...an absolute warrior." ([05:11])
• Credits her as a leading voice against the Muslim Brotherhood and a defender of Israel.

The “Cut Off Aid” Proposal

• Loomer recounts her meetings with Israeli officials and pushes her position: Israel should end U.S. military aid and assert full sovereignty.
• “America first means not dictating what other countries do if you’re truly a sovereign nation.” ([09:53] Loomer)
• Loomer argues the U.S. benefits considerably—citing a $48 billion annual return on a $3.8–3.8 billion aid investment.
• “We get enormous amounts of counterterrorism intelligence that is protecting Americans from the threat of global Islamic jihad.” ([13:26] Loomer)

Media “Scoop” & Netanyahu’s Rebuttal

• Bannon and Loomer dissect an Axios report claiming a 20-year aid package was in the works, which Loomer calls “totally phony.”
• Netanyahu’s live interview (played on-air) aligns with Loomer's argument:
  • "My direction is the exact opposite [of the Axios report]...I want to make our arms industry independent—as independent as possible." ([21:40] Benjamin Netanyahu)
• Loomer and Bannon debate motivations behind the “fake news,” with Loomer accusing Israeli and global media outlets of amplifying disinformation for political gain.

Wider Context: Anti-Israel Sentiment & Gen Z

• Loomer calls current anti-Israel rhetoric an “Israel derangement syndrome,” likening it to “Trump derangement syndrome.”
• Recommends cutting ALL foreign aid, not just to Israel, to remain consistent with America First principles.
• Notable Quote: “If we're going to end all aid to Israel, then logically speaking, we should just end all aid to every other country as well.” ([24:44] Loomer)

Personal Role & MAGA Movement Influence

• Loomer defends her credentials as an influencer and policy advisor within the MAGA base.
• Discusses her preference for domestic policy influence but leaves open service as ambassador if requested by President Trump.

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Timestamp Highlights

• Introduction to AI, Economy: [00:06–05:30]
• Laura Loomer Joins: [05:34]
• On Sovereignty & U.S. Aid: [06:17–15:04]
• Confronting Media Narratives: [17:03–21:17]
• Netanyahu’s Clip: [21:17–22:38]
• Broader Implications, Aid Consistency: [22:53–24:44]
• Ambassador Question: [24:44–25:47]

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3. Joel Gilbert: History of Israeli Sovereignty Debate & Congressional Influence

[28:36–34:32] Joel Gilbert & Stephen K. Bannon

• Gilbert reframes Loomer’s position as not new: “For 40 or 50 years, especially on the right, they’ve been arguing...that U.S. aid unduly influences Israel’s sovereignty.”
• Cites peace deals and military withdrawals (“Egypt is still a hostile country...they helped Hamas get armed”).
• “[M]any Israelis think they’ll be better off without the U.S. financial aid in place.” ([29:43] Gilbert)

On Chinese Influence in Congress

• Gilbert shifts to analyze Eric Swalwell's finances and the Fang Fang espionage case, positing financial instability made members vulnerable.
• “There’s a long-term influence operation by...China to penetrate US political parties.” ([32:26] Gilbert)

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4. Conservative Culture Initiatives: Interviews with Dan Floyd

[35:14–40:44] Dan Floyd & Stephen K. Bannon

• Highlights the importance of the arts: “Politics is downstream of culture.” ([36:37] Floyd)
• Promotes War Room’s collaborations with "cancelled" right-wing artists and cultural products (e.g., the Rebels, Rogues, and Outlaws portrait book, Roseanne Barr documentary).
• Previews new interviews uncovering COVID-19 vaccine impact and advocacy by Bobby Kennedy.

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5. Supplementary Segments: Health & Security

[45:14–47:27] Trevor Comstock & Stephen K. Bannon

• Comstock introduces a tallow and manuka honey moisturizer, citing health and purity benefits.
• Emphasizes handcrafted, organic ingredients and direct accessibility for listeners.

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6. Notable Quotes & Moments

• “You have more regulation on Capitol Hill to open a nail salon than any of the four frontier labs...on artificial intelligence.” ([05:06] Bannon)
• “America first means not telling other countries what to do.” ([09:53] Loomer)
• “It’s a big psychological step what you’re saying. But people clearly believe that. I think Netanyahu looked out there and said, hey, I think her program...” ([20:06] Bannon)
• “[U.S.–Israel aid] has been a discussion amongst the people of Israel for quite some time. It’s actually a big national debate.” ([19:34] Loomer)
• “Follow what I say, not what is put forward in some leaks that are not true.” ([21:40] Netanyahu)

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Summary & Analysis

Episode Tone & Takeaways

The episode adopts a combative, anti-mainstream tone, with Bannon, Loomer, and others positioning themselves as truth-tellers disrupting elite policy consensus and media narratives. Loomer’s advocacy for cutting off Israeli aid—framed as liberating both nations from “golden handcuffs”—forms the core, and is remarkably echoed by an on-air denial from Netanyahu. The dialogue exposes growing divides within right-wing circles regarding Israel, foreign aid, and U.S. priorities.

Conversations with Gilbert and other guests supplement Loomer’s assertions with historical context, concerns about foreign influence, and the significance of independent conservative cultural movements.

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Useful Links & Follows

• Laura Loomer: X (Twitter) @lauraloomer, Podcast "Loomer Unleashed" on Rumble & lumerd.com
• Joel Gilbert: Films at highway61ent.com, @JoelSGilbert on X
• Dan Floyd: Art at warroom.org, social: @doitfluit
• Trevor Comstock: sacredhumanhealth.com (code: war room for 10% off)

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Recommended Segments for Listening

• AI/Turbulence/Economic Rant: [00:06–05:30]
• Laura Loomer on Israeli Sovereignty (full context): [05:34–26:25]
• Netanyahu’s Response: [21:17–22:38]
• Historical Context on Aid Debate: [28:36–29:43]
• Political Influence in Congress (Swalwell/Fang Fang): [30:42–34:07]
• Conservative Culture & Vaccine Interviews: [35:14–40:44]

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This summary encapsulates key topics and arguments, highlighting memorable moments and timestamps, and keeps the context vivid and accessible for listeners and non-listeners alike.

Transcript

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is an iHeart podcast.

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're not going to get a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big L Media? I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, welcome back. It is Friday 14th September, year of alert 2025 only hitters only today. Roger Kimball, Raheem Kassam, Laura Loome going to join us momentarily. I was so engrossed. Oh, and Joe Lavarnier from Treasury, very smart guy over there. Really the kind of the head messaging guy for Secretary Besant. Haven't done any reads. Birchgold, take your phone out now more than ever. You're seeing the turbulence right now. What Michael Burry, the big short guy, remember the played by I think Christian Bale in the movie the big short guy shut down. In fact on the front page of the he shorted Palantir and he shorted Nvidia the other day. Big short investor Burry shuts. He shut down his after shorting them and the shorts were in huge positions after shorting them. I guess as a test. He closed his, he closed his fund. He said he couldn't. He doesn't know how to value these artificial intelligence companies anymore. And I'll get to this whole thing that was in Zero Hedge yesterday about the $5 trillion of capital costs and this is not like some 10 year projection. This is like the here and now. $5 trillion just to build out the data centers and the energy. Right. And you don't think your electric bill is going to be hit. Oh, wait for it. But worse than that of the 5 trillion they know they need now, 1 trillion has got to come from you. It's a hole that they can't because they don't want to sell equity. They don't be deluded. So they look for you suckers to pay for it and you get none of the upside. This is the grossest example since the 2008 bailouts of the system looking for to socialize the risk that's the way they're mitigating the risk. They're going to socialize the risk. That's a fancy term saying that's on your shoulders. You're the full faith and credit of the United States government. Any of these guarantees, and they're going to keep all the upside, they keep the ups, you mitigate the risk. Well, we're not going to allow that to happen. You've been treated like suckers for too long, so that's not going to happen. But that's the plan. Very scary. And of course, the advances in AI, we have no earthy idea what's happening in these labs right now because you have more regulation on Capitol Hill to open a nail salon than any of the four frontier labs. Have it all on artificial intelligence. Okay, Laura Loomer joins us. This is the reason I love Laura Loomer. Courage. Courage is the virtue of which all the other virtues rest. And one thing you say about Loomer, she's one of the most courageous people I know, an absolute warrior. So, Laura, I just want to start off, I mean, your bona fides as being one of the leading voices of anti Muslim Brotherhood, of radical Islam. I mean, you've been sued, you've had to pay fines. Nobody came to your defense. One of the biggest defenders of Israel, one of the biggest defenders of the Jewish people. But always in a context, you put it in a context. One of the biggest context is about the Muslim Brotherhood and what they're trying to do around Israel with all these radical Turk, Muslim and Arab nations. On Tuesday, I believe it was, you came out with a couple of tweets, but you talked about the sovereignty of Israel and to really have Israel not be a protectorate or quote, unquote, not be the greatest ally, but to be an independent or sovereign nation, it needed to stop this $4 billion a year or whatever the number is of American arms. And it needed really to make a statement that you're an independent nation and you're going to make your own independent decisions. And hey, you're always an ally of the United States, but you're an ally like any independent nation, any sovereign nation. On Thursday morning, Axios, who I think is pretty dialed in over there, has this article, Scoop exclusive that there is now a 20 year deal that is the 20 year memorandum of understanding that there would be the commitment of the $4 billion or $5 billion, whatever it is, for 20 years that would have some tweaks of some America first language in it, but essentially would be doubling down on Basically, Israel's protectorate. And as I read that, I go, gosh, I think they took Laura Loomber pretty seriously because somebody senior in the Israeli government just put a shot across her bow and they did an axis. Now, two minutes after the axis, the Times of Israel, every big paper had it. And this thing had been briefed. You could tell they were talking to senior people's senior people in the Netanyahu government. Then yesterday afternoon, an Australian reporter who.

[Laura Loomer]

Well, I texted you first. I told you that the story was fake news.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yes, yes, I should say. She texted me and said, this story is totally phony. It's false, it's not happening. Then a couple hours later, later, Bibi came out and said, absolutely, it's false. In fact, and we'll play the Bibi thing a little while. In fact, we're essentially embracing Laura Loomis plan. We need our own independence, our own sovereignty. We don't need the money. We want to wean ourselves off it. So just walk us through behind the scenes. What in the hell happened in Israel this week that you started this kind of movement to, you know, get your sovereignty? But there was obviously some senior folks somewhere that convinced Axios in the Times of Israel that in fact the exact opposite was happening.

[Joel Gilbert]

Man.

[Laura Loomer]

Well, obviously we've seen a pivot, right, Steve. There's a lot of anti Israel rhetoric on the left and also now on the right, where we're seeing, you know, extreme hostility towards not just the state of Israel, but also Jewish people. I called this Israel derangement Syndrome. And I know you and I kind of got into a back and forth last time I was on your show. But my point was that, you know, we need to start focusing on the bigger picture. People want to criticize Israel. When you break down the number and you look at the actual numbers of aid, the value of aid, you have $3.8 billion per year. Sometimes it's 3.3, sometimes it's 3.8 that we give Israel. Now, there was a report, Steve, that came out the other day that showed that our return on that investment is about $48 billion a year. Whether that's through weapons sales or technology or, you know, investments in pharmaceuticals, whatever it may be, we certainly get a lot more out of our relationship with Israel than we give to Israel every single year. However, doesn't matter what the numbers are. There's no convincing a very large fraction of Gen Z and also a growing number of leftists and also conservatives that our relationship with Israel is beneficial. That's not going to Change the fact that Israel is always going to be our ally, as you just pointed out. And so when I was in Israel, I met with military officials, I met with members of the Knesset, I met with high level Israeli politicians and I had discussions about this. And ultimately what I said is, well, why don't you just embrace cutting off aid? Cutting off aid to Israel? What's the worst that could happen? You're a sovereign nation. I mean, if the United states is getting $48 billion a year out of this relationship with Israel and our investment into Israel, then it's our loss, really. It's our loss as the United States of America if America doesn't want to appreciate the return on investment with the aid that we're providing Israel every single year. I also told these officials when I met with them that I don't think that Israel does a good enough job highlighting the benefit of our relationship with Israel. What do I mean by that? Well, people say, oh, well, they're just trying to interfere in our elections with aipac. First of all, I'm not here to defend aipac. I think that AIPAC should actually have to register with fara. However, when we cut off aid to Israel, that's the great thing. We're not going to need Fara anymore. We're not, excuse me, we're not going to need AIPAC anymore because the whole point of AIPAC is to convince politicians in Washington D.C. to support Israel. So this whole debate about, you know, Israeli interference in our elections, poof, it's gone. It disappears. And so we're able to do two things simultaneously. We're able to help Israel truly become a sovereign nation. We're going to take these golden handcuffs, as I like to call them, off of the Israelis because America, America first means not dictating what other countries do if you're truly a sovereign nation. And I know that you'll agree with me on this, Steve, America first means not telling other countries what to do. And you made that argument during, you know, the two year war between Israel and Hamas. And people say, well, we're paying for those, you know, those weapons that are being used to bomb people in Gaza. So we have every right to tell Israel what to do as it relates to not bombing Iran or not leveling Gaza. Well, if we're not giving Israel $3.8 billion a year, who are we? Who are we, Steve, to tell Israel what they can and can't do? So when it comes to taking out the Ayatollah, when it comes to going into Gaza, if They violate the ceasefire, Americans are no longer going to be able to complain about Israel perhaps assassinating the Ayatollah or flattening Gaza. Right. As ominous as it may sound to the critics of Israel, that's what it means. If we're truly going to be America first and we're not going to be giving Israel the $3.8 billion a year and benefiting from the $48 billion in return.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

That's what I called that.

[Laura Loomer]

I was pleased to see Netanyahu parrot par.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Before you get to the punchline, I want to make sure we go back because there's a lot of criticism here of Trump and saying, hey, how weak is Trump's understanding of geopolitics or national security? He's got Laura Loomer coming in and telling me about security. Guys are not really America first, they're neocons. But when you went to Israel, you actually had senior level people that took meetings. Why would they take a meeting with Laura Loomer? Why would they take a meeting with Laura Loomer and have Laura Loomer talk to them about what their sovereignty is? That's, that's pretty, that's a scoop right there. Why would they do that?

[Laura Loomer]

Well, look, I think that a lot of the lies that are pushed out against me, they're malicious. I think a lot of them are, are spewed against me because I am Jewish and because I'm a woman. I mean, I'm not trying to parrot feminist talking points right now, but there is this animosity towards outsiders. I mean, people have animosity towards you, Steve. And because I'm not an elected official and because I'm not an official advisor, people think that I shouldn't have a seat at the table or I shouldn't be able to share my opinion. But, you know, I have nearly 2 point, nearly 2 million followers on X. I know that I've been doing this work for a very long time. I have earned the trust of the MAGA base and obviously the President takes into account what I have to say. Oftentimes the President will call me, ask me for my opinion, ask me for my advice. He's admitted this publicly when asked by reporters. And so why wouldn't, why wouldn't politicians in Israel and high level officials in Israel want to take meetings with me? Why wouldn't they? I mean, I am one of the most outspoken and well known Jewish conservative leaders in America. And I am approaching this from an America first perspective. I agree. We're $38 trillion in debt we need to have a conversation about cutting off aid not just to Israel, but to all countries. We don't need to be the sugar daddy of every single country in the world when we really need to be advocating for countries to be truly sovereign. However, it's a double edged sword if Americans are going to say we hate Israel, we don't want to be giving aid to Israel anymore. We don't want our money funding Israel's wars. We don't want to die for Israel. I mean there's all these ridiculous talking points about Americans are dying for Israel when we don't have troops on the ground in Israel. If anything, Israelis are dying for Americans. You know, one of the things that I did, Steve, when I was in Israel is I met a lot of IDF soldiers and they're on the front lines doing the counterterrorism intelligence work that we are benefiting from with our shared intel agreement with the Israeli government. And so there's a huge PTS issue.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And hang on a second. By the way, we are going to have Brother Katz is going to be on here 11 o' clock next week. We're going to have Katz on While Israel Slept. I'm going to do the second half of the interview. We did the first half about the intelligence failures. We're going to talk about the IDF and particularly in the first couple of days of the October 7th situation. A magnificent book if you have not purchased While Israel Slept. It's absolutely astounding. A great book. Real quick, I'm going to hold you to the break, Laura, but the as you're going into Israel and meeting with senior level people and you're talking about hey look guys, we want to be a sovereign nation. The United States is going to America first, is going to do what they're going to do. We got to be Israel first and do what we're going to do. Give me a minute on this for you to break. How is that saying we?

[Laura Loomer]

I just want to make it very clear I'm not Israeli when I say we. I'm approaching this from a perspective as an American. I'm not Israel first, I'm America first. But this is in the best interest of America and Also Israel. We're $38 trillion in debt and the Israelis understand this. They understand that there's an optics issue right now. I don't think that this is an issue that's been created by the Israeli government, but it's just a reality. I don't think that we're going to be able, doesn't matter how much money the Israeli government throws at this. I don't think that we're going to be able to convince a large portion of the American voting population that our relationship with Israel is beneficial. I believe that it is beneficial. I mean, the math is pretty clear. We got a $48 billion return on our investment for the aid that we give them, Steve. And we get enormous amounts of counterterrorism intelligence that is protecting Americans from the threat of global Islamic Jihad. However, you can say this. You can present all the graphs, all the evidence, show people the numbers. There's a lot of people out there who truly do have Israel derangement syndrome. And that's the argument that I was trying to make on your show last time I was on. And so I think that they were appreciative and grateful. And I found out there's actually a lot of Israelis.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Hang on one second. Hang on one second. We're just going to commercial break. Laura Loomers in the war room. Short break. Return in a moment.

[Laura Loomer]

Kill America's voice.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Laura Loomer]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Joel Gilbert]

That's right.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Laura Loomer]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

There's a huge article in Newsweek right now about our guest, Laura Loomer. Laura came out a couple days ago and said MAG is far from dead and listed out different policies that got to work better, et cetera. It's just amazing. They have a huge article and they have a quote from Karim Jean Pierre. Remember, we called her Zen Master because she never talked about anything real. It was called kind of very Zen. She referred to Laura Loomer as hateful, repugnant and racist. Laura Loomer, while you're in Israel, why would senior understanding you're a huge influencer, you've got the President's ear, you have a very set convictions about America first, also about the MAGA movement policies like H1B visas, et cetera. But why would they take your discussion with them about their sovereignty and take it seriously and actually look like they're going to move to do something to the point of people that countered that took a long time to brief Axios and brief the Times of Israel to counter what you were saying. Right. And to do it in really a huge kind of a middle finger way. Hey, baby, how about this? A20. Not only are we not going to stop taking American aid because we want to stop being part, you know, we're going to make our own decisions and not have America part of that, but we're going to do a 20 year deal and maybe even do a bigger deal. Ma'. Am.

[Laura Loomer]

Well, look, I think that there's, there's no discounting the fact that there's a huge business and money making opportunity right now for people pushing anti Israel rhetoric. As I said before, it's kind of like Trump derangement syndrome. This concept of Israel derangement syndrome has people foaming at the mouth. Steve, over there.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Hang on.

[Laura Loomer]

For their anti Israel.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Ho, ho, ho.

[Laura Loomer]

When you ask, you ask me why I think. Right, but you asked me why I think the Axios would lie.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

But it's not.

[Laura Loomer]

I'm explaining to you they lied. They put out a fake story.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You're saying, you're saying. Actually no, but that story was clearly given to them. That axes were never right.

[Laura Loomer]

But that's, I'm trying to answer your question and explain why I think they're doing this. I think that they knew that all of the Israel haters were going to jump on that article, which is exactly what they did. I mean everybody who hates Israel posted that article. And they were like, see, you know, the, the, the, the United States government is completely controlled by Israel. They tried to say that this was tied to the new Epstein emails. There were all these conspiracies that came out and meanwhile it was a completely fabricated story. I mean Barack Ravid completely made up this story. And I know for a fact because.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

It'S, they want to cut off. You're telling me the Times of Israel. I think it was the Jerusalem Post. You told me the most reputable publications in Israel, all three with Axios and a guy, quite frankly, has been pretty accurate. They made it up out of whole. This was given to them by. How do we know that they went to them?

[Laura Loomer]

How do we know they went to them? I don't trust anything that Axios says. They can say that people went to them all they want. It doesn't necessarily mean that they actually went to them.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Are you making the case that Mike Allen and Jim Vanderhei and what they've done with. Was it. What's his name, Rabat the guy that covers Israel that they literally made up a story of whole clothes just because they saw your tweets and what you were talking about. Israeli sovereignty, they made up.

[Laura Loomer]

I don't know why it was made up, but I do know from my conversations with individuals at the White House press shop that Barack is constantly making up lies and he's a huge headache for the White House and he's constantly pushing out fake news. And so I wouldn't put it past them. I mean, why, why would they come out with this report and then 20 minutes later you have Prime Minister Nassim doing an interview with Aaron Milan? It just, it doesn't make much sense to me. I think it's strange.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I don't think it's strange at all. I think if people inside the Israeli government say, hey, we don't want this woman who's very powerful to start setting a narrative that we're breaking off. A lot of the people over there don't want to break off at all. Your idea of sovereignty, they would say would be close to suicide for the country. They're not ready for it.

[Laura Loomer]

Well, a lot of people do. I met a lot of people in Israel that actually do. I met a lot of people in Israel, including officials who have told me that this has been a discussion amongst the people of Israel for quite some time. It's actually a big national debate in Israel about whether or not Israel would be better off because there's a lot of people that don't want to be handcuffed by the United States military telling them you can't bomb the Ayatollah, you can't go into Gaza. A lot of people.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Hang on, listen, it is a debate. Rabbi Waleki. Rabbi is going to be, he's in the States next week. He's going to be by here also. We're going to get a time. He and I have had this debate. He says, hey, he said now for six months or eight months, it's time now. You got to off. We got to go our own direction. My point is it is a debate. It's going to be a bigger debate. The people on the other side of the debate from you basically went to Axios and said, hey, we're actually going to work a 20 year deal. I don't believe at all that the Times of Israel, the Jerusalem Post and Axios would sit there and just go make up a story, right? That was a total bald faced lie. Somebody clearly said to them that we're going to do this and we're Going to work on this. You don't believe that. You think they just made it up?

[Laura Loomer]

Well, I don't know why they would do that. I mean, the person to go to is Prime Minister Netanyahu himself. I mean, why wouldn't they just take it from the horse's mouth directly? He said that this story was a lie. I mean, that's what he said when he did this interview. And so let's play it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

That means.

[Laura Loomer]

That would mean, logically speaking, that the story was made up.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

No, I think. What? Look, maybe it didn't happen. I think what happened. There are people in the government that want to counter what you're saying, which is about. Because it's a big step. It's a big psychological step of what you're saying. But people clearly believe that. Smart. And I think Netanyahu looked out there and said, hey, I think her program. Let's play, let's play what he said. Can we play the clip of Netanyahu?

You were a few moments late, clearly running a country, so you're forgiven. But I'm glad you were because this headline just dropped and I want to start the interview by asking for your reaction to it. It's on the Axios news site and it says, Scoop, Israel seeks 20 year military aid deal with US with America first tweaks. Is that correct?

[Benjamin Netanyahu]

I don't know what they're talking about. My direction is the exact opposite. You know, when I first became Prime Minister in 1996, I went to the US Congress and we were receiving financial aid and military aid. And I said, the first thing is, you know, we're going to build a high tech, free market, capitalist economy. We don't need the financial aid. Phase it out. And everybody gasped. How dare he? You know, this young Prime Minister, eager for a PR title. He's giving up billions of dollars. And I was happy to do it and I was right to do it. So we got rid of that. Now I want to make our arms industry independent. Totally as independent as possible. So my direction is the exact opposite. I don't know who's talking for Israel. I do so follow what I say, not what is put forward in some leaks that are not true.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

So, Prime Minister, you think it's time to cut military aid in Thailand?

All right, there he's saying it's time to cut military aid. Agrees with you 100% about Israel's sovereignty. Where does this go from here?

[Laura Loomer]

Well, look, hopefully this is actually going to be able to be implemented. It's going to obviously take you know, some time to, to, to implement this policy. I don't think it's going to happen overnight, but hopefully there can be this discussion so that by the end, at least of the end of the, the Trump administration over these next three years, we can see an end of aid to, to Israel. I don't think it's going to be immediate. I think that you would probably agree with me it's going to take some time to figure out how this is going to work. Exactly. But ultimately, I think that the United States of America will be better off and Israel will be better off. And I don't think that we're going to be necessarily financially better off because we're going to be forfeiting the $48 billion that we get on this return for our investment in Israel. But clearly the issue of giving aid to Israel has been the center of a lot of political tension and conflict in our own country. And so hopefully this can take the temperature down. We'll see a decrease in conspiracy theories. We'll see a decrease in antisemitism in our country. We'll hopefully see a decrease in anti Semitism around the world. And hopefully all of these people who hate Israel and these America only isolationist types who truly say that they are America first or America only as Marjorie Trader Greene likes to call herself, maybe they will be consistent and they will also say, all right, let's cut off aid to all countries because if we're going to end all aid to Israel, then logically speaking, we should just end all aid to every other country. Steve, it can't just be, you know, ganging up on Israel for the sake of ganging up on Israel. I agree. Let's end all aid to Israel, but let's also end all of the aid to every other country as well. I think, about the America first perspective.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Would you be open to set aside your, your time as an investigative reporter and influencer if the President asked you to be the American ambassador to Israel during this transition period?

[Laura Loomer]

Ma', am, I mean, look, if the President asked me to serve, I'd be happy to serve. I think that I would be better suited helping the President handle issues of domestic policy. I mean, if I was working in the White House right now, I don't think that we would see the President talking about the need to increase, increase H1B visas or to give 600,000 visas to Chinese students who we all know are just going to be Chinese spies. And we certainly wouldn't be seeing ISIS terrorists in the White House, because I would be pushing back heavily. I think that with my talents and being as plugged in with the base as I am that I would be better suited working in the White House, assisting and advising the president on domestic policy. But hey, if the president asked me to assist, I'd be happy to assist. Although I think Ambassador Huckabee is doing a great job as it is.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Well, we will leave that. We differ on that, but we'll leave that. Laura, where do people go to become one of your followers? Followers on Twitter and where they get your podcasts that comes on a couple of times a week.

[Laura Loomer]

Yeah, they can follow me on X at Laura Loomer and also on X at Loomer Unleash. And then my show, Lumer Unleashed is every Tuesday and Thursday on Rumble Rumble.com again, that's Rumble.com Laura Loomer. And if you want to review all of my exclusive articles and investigative reports, you can follow me on my website, lumerd.com again, that's lumerd.com and that's where people can support my work.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah. Any of these journalists that come out to attack Laura Loomer influence, just look at the week in Israel. It started with her tweets. You then had Axios, the Times of Israel, I believe the Jerusalem Post all put out definitive stories totally reversed with the prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday with the interview with the Australian reporter completely backed the Laura Loomer play. Laura, thank you so much for joining us. Short break Joe Gilbert next in the war room, here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Birchgold.com into the Dollar Empire Gold back on a tear. It's not the price, it's the process. Learn the process. Birch Gold's prepared to teach you. We've got a great starter into the dollar empire. Just go to birchgold.com, promo code Bannon. Get it. But more importantly, get in touch with Philip Patrick and his team and talk about the ownership of physical gold. Why has been a hedge against times of turbulence. We're going to go through turbulence. We are. Believe me. You can see this in this artificial intelligence quote, unquote boom, end quote of what you're going to pay for. More on that later. Go talk to the guys at Birch Colton also talking about the de dollarization effort led by the Chinese Communist Party are mortal enemy. Talk to him about it. That's why central banks led by the central bank of the Chinese Communist Party are buying gold at record rates. Check it all out today. Joel Gilbert, we're really pressed for time. I Got you here on another great piece. When Joel Gilbert gets on a topic, he's like a dog with a bone. He's on Eric Swalwell, but he's been on this for a while. Give me a minute on Lara Loomer going to Israel and saying, hey, look, guys, let's be a sovereign nation. Let's just cut the aid, do it ourselves. And then, you know, as an ally, we need to talk to America and keep them informed. But if they're not paying for things and we're not dragging them into things, we can do what we want, including take down Tehran if we so want. Your thoughts, sir?

[Joel Gilbert]

I think maybe she was affected because it's not really a new argument in Israel. For 40 or 50 years, especially on the right, they've been arguing that every time Israel gets in a war or makes a peace deal, it's the United States pressuring Israel by offering more aid or pressing offering to or saying they're going to withdraw aid if Israel doesn't agree. So even the war in Gaza was caused by Israel's withdrawal from Gaza in 2006 or 2007, in which the United States promised more aid. The Egyptian peace treaty was based on the United States promising massive aid. And that hasn't worked out at all. Egypt is still a hostile country to Israel. They helped Hamas get armed withdrawing from southern Lebanon. Israel withdrew without any security arrangements whatsoever. Again in Israel. They felt that the United States was unduly influencing Israel because of promises for extra aid or promises or threats to withdraw aid. So it's not a new argument. And a lot of Israelis think they'll be better off without the US Financial aid in place.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

We'll have a different. We'll have a discussion later, Gilbert, because you know this pretty well. But that's also a difference of understanding of the Jewish donors to the Republican Party and actually people that live in Israel and have to deal with the reality. Let's put a pin in that and we'll come back to it because I don't want to run out of time on your Swalwell. So the president, the Justice Department and others are going after Swalwell, just like Tish James and others that have these fraudulent mortgages and, you know, fraudulent bank statements and defrauding banks for lower interest rates. And he's making a case he's president's number one enemy and they're coming after him. We said yesterday on the show. So, you know, with Mike Davis, I hadnatalie was sitting as a co host yesterday. Why are we not Going after Fang Fang. I mean, the bigger problem with Swalwell is not his mortgage. That's, I'm sure, something that people get to the bottom of. But that he was, you know, open information to the Chinese Communist Party. He was honey potted. And you've done some research on all of this. What do you got for you got a brilliant article up on Gateway Pundit. What do you got, sir?

[Joel Gilbert]

Well, don't forget Dan Feinstein was also penetrated by the Chinese intelligence for many years and not much really happened. Look, Swalwell, we took a look at his mortgage. He declared he bought and purchased a home in Washington D.C. that he declared as his principal residence while not having any verifiable address in California. According to the US Constitution, you have to be an inhabitant of the state that you represent. California law, Code 349, you actually have to have a physical address and live there. Swalwell has big financial problems. I looked at his financial disclosures. Since 2011, when he entered Congress, he still has not paid off his student loans. He still has the same debt to American Express, Chase Bank. He's a financial disaster. And that might be why he can't maintain a home in California like he's supposed to. And in today's article I wrote about how his 2010 divorce, him and his wife were exchanging and bickering over can openers and salad tossers and, you know, plates. Clearly because he didn't have any money. So even though he's made 174,000 a year in Congress, he's never paid off any debt. So that makes the whole Chinese spying Fang Fang thing of more concern. Where is this guy's money going and why can't he pay off debts and why can't he maintain a home in California?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Just give the audience a minute on the Fang Fang situation. Why is that something that China hawks and people that are anti ccp, like Natalie Winters, War Room Bannon and others continue to harp on? Why do people harp on the Fang Fang situation? What's such a big deal about it?

[Joel Gilbert]

Well, there's a long term influence operation by different countries, sometimes Russia and certainly China to penetrate US Political parties and influence them by placing influencers inside people that they think have potential to become president one day? Look, Tim Walsh in Minnesota used to go to China every year for many, many years. He was under great influence from the Chinese Fang Fang. The FBI apparently felt she was some kind of part of a spying operation and they had to tell Eric Swalwell to get rid of her, which he did. But then Swalwell was kicked off the Intelligence Committee because of the risk that he, that he posed. So it's been a long term threat. The FBI is constantly following around, you know, how can they follow around 600,000 Chinese students? But there's definitely an effort to penetrate the American political system and influence our politics from Joe Biden to Tim Walsh to Eric Swalwell.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Just. No, before he lets you go, authorities came to him and notified him that this was a problem and this is the reason that he basically broke off the relationship or at least toned it down.

[Joel Gilbert]

That's all we know. We know very little about it. Even the Dianne Feinstein, her driver for 20 years, apparently worked for the Chinese Communist Party and that was the last we heard about it. So we don't get enough information about this stuff. And Eric Swalwell and Tim Walsh are still serving and they won't answer any questions. So you it's definitely frustrating not to be able to really find out what happened in these situations and why there's never any prosecutions.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

If you want to see the amazing story of his divorce in 2010 where they're arguing over the kitchen utensils, that leads to, I think, some of the current problems he's got. It's Joel Gilbert and it's up on the great Jim Hoff's Gateway Pundit today. Joel, we'll have you back on. I want to get your thoughts more about what Laura's talking about and this movement over in Israel about Israeli sovereignty. Joel, where do people go to get all of your current content?

[Joel Gilbert]

My website for all my films, highway61ent.com I've got my, my new film with Roseanne Barr about her life story, roseanne is america.com and Joel S. Gilbert on X. Joel S. Gilbert, by the way.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The Roseanne Barr thing's amazing, fantastic film. Joel, thank you so much. Appreciate you, brother. Thank you, brother.

[Joel Gilbert]

Thanks so much.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah, we've got that on War Room Films now, in fact. Dan Floyd, is Dan Floyd up? Dan, can I get Dan Floyd, speaking of War Room Films, even as I speak, Dan Floyd, is Dan Floyd gonna join us? Dan, we got do we have Roseanne Barr finally up on War Room Films?

[Dan Floyd]

We have it and it's one of the best documentaries I've seen in years. It's really, really, really great and encourage everybody to go watch it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And it's up if you need a shot of energy. Roseanne Barr is it now. And Dan, you're also, we're working on a bunch of stuff you're going to be down. You're working on some of this. We got the J6 prison chorus or choir that's going to put out at Amfest. And of course Amfest is now mega sold out. So unlike previous times, we had the War Room Posse. It was the first guys that got in when we put it up in mid August, were able to get tickets, but it's obviously sold out. The J6 prison course is going to release their song, that incredible song at Amfest, I think, on the 19th of December. And then the evening, I think it's the evening before January 6th, I think that's the fifth, if my math is correct. They're going to release their album and we'll be a part of that in real America. Voice music. Dan, you've also got something else we've worked on. The people. I have a copy here in the War Room. Everybody that comes in is blown away by it. Show folks what you got and how can people get one.

[Dan Floyd]

So, yeah, one of the main things that I try to do, and I'm so appreciative of the efforts of War Room and you, you've always been a.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Supporter of the arts.

[Dan Floyd]

And what we see nowadays is people who would consider themselves right wing artists, whether they make right wing art or not. Just if they have those values, we see them being canceled. They can't get any kind of like commissions work, they're getting fired from jobs, they can't get gallery shows, they have a hard time distributing content. Whether it's films or books or you just name it. And War Room's really stepping into the breach there. And, and it's really important for this movement. As Andrew Breitbart liked to say, politics is downstream of culture. And if you want to change your politics, you've got to change your culture. And one of the things that I try to do, you know, I recently did the Rebels, Rogues and Outlaws portrait book of War Room. But I also talk to artists every day and we do a lot of collaborations and what have you. And this is one of the ones I did with an artist down in Palm beach called Sean Diconia. And he took some of the images from the Rebels book and we kind of laid it out in this spaghetti western kind of old style wanted poster. And I think it looks really wonderful. And people can get it just by simply going to the website war room.org and it's right there, they can click on it and order a copy. We've got a lot of options. Whether you like canvases or Prints, whether it's framed, you want to frame it yourself, whatever. But it's right there for anybody who's interested.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

If people order this, can they get it before the holidays? In other words, they want to make this a gift for somebody to put it under the Christmas tree. So, okay, where they go right now? They don't need a promo code. Just go. Where do they go?

[Dan Floyd]

They can go to war room.org and it's right there.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Perfect. Okay. I love that poster, by the way. Everybody comes in. We have one standing right here. Right when you walk into the war Room itself, you say to people, well, what is this? Or is my picture going to be up there? We go. No, no, no. This is a select group only, so.

[Dan Floyd]

It'Ll be hanging real soon.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Now we're working. You did a ton of interviews down at the. The conference in Austin last week on maha, the Children's Health Defense Conference, one of those. You did some sidebar interviews. Do we have any idea when those interviews are going to be up? Because I know the posse's going to.

[Dan Floyd]

Yeah, they should start to be trickling out as early as Monday. We're gonna. We'll make a big splash with them. And it was okay. I did like, probably nine hours a day of interviews, and I thought I was pretty, pretty up on the vax stuff. And, you know, I knew quite a bit about COVID and, man, it's absolutely shocking. And then to see some of these healthy people who have come through that I got to meet and talk with, to see them, like, rolling up in wheelchairs and, you know, in canes, having been paralyzed and all this stuff just from, you know, doing what they thought was their duty or what they were coerced to do in many, many instances. And that's take a shot. Especially when they're young, you know, they're military, in their early 20s. Even teenagers who are. Who are just decimated by these things and the corruption and deceit that's going on in these big organizations is something that really needs to be tackled. And I couldn't be happier that Bobby Kennedy's in there fighting that good fight.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Now we're going to have. We'll make a big launch on this on Monday. If you guys are ready. We're ready to launch. It's extraordinary. And the information, the content's so extraordinary. Dan, social media, where do people go?

[Dan Floyd]

I'm at doitfluit across all the media. All social media is instax truth. It's D o I T f L u E Do it flu it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Dan, we'll see you Monday. Thank you very much, sir. Appreciate you.

[Dan Floyd]

Thank you, Steve. Appreciate your time.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Chris Horror]

Well, Steve, talking about AI. Unfortunately, AI is now being used by the all the usual suspects, the Chinese, the North Koreans and the Iranians, to enable more attacks on US Infrastructure, data centers and cyber systems. So you've got to be prepared. As ever, it'[e-mail] we have this week for you a free satellite phone with a free Faraday bag. And we have just 50 of those. It'[e-mail] so you can keep your phone, cell phone safe. And if the networks go down, then you'll be able to make a call. We're just out there right now, still safe. In Jamaica, the devastation out there caused by Hurricane Melissa took out 80% of the power grid. And when the power grid goes down, everything else goes down. So we're on the ground not just selling phones and satellite Internet units, but providing them for free for those families that need them. And there's unfortunately many, many of those. But look, as you said, these are dangerous times and more turbulent times ahead. Our infrastructure, our power grid, our communications networks.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

By the way, the Chinese Communist Party, the pla, just hacked Anthropic, one of the four Frontier labs. They had a cyber attack Thursday night Excuse me. Thursday afternoon. We were going to report it last night. We didn't have time. Anthropic, which is probably the best of the four, Frontier Labs had a cyber attack and a hack by the ccp, the pla. That's how dangerous it is. So how do people, how do people. What's the workaround for that, sir?

[Chris Horror]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

So you need vacations, you need to have it, man. You got to get these satellite phones. Where do they go one more time because you're always giving us great deals where they go one more time to hit it because these are limited out certain amount for the war and posse when he can make these deals. So they go fast. So where do folks go fast? Sir, they got a set.

[Chris Horror]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you brother. Chris Horror always appreciate you and cutting deals for the Warren posse, they love it. Trevor Comstock. So I think either this afternoon or tomorrow, Clara Dooley is going to be on with a complete analysis of what went down at the MAHA summit the other day. Plus we're going to have a big launch next week of interviews from Claire and other people related to everything that's going on with the MAHA movement. You're going to be absolutely stunned by all of it. Trevor Comstock. We're all Make America Healthy again. What do you got for us, sir?

[Trevor Comstock]

Yeah, good to see you, Steve. So real quick, we've been getting a good amount of questions around our new Tallow moisturizer in regards to the various benefits of it and how it differentiates from other skin creams on the market. So I thought I would just highlight it with the time that I have a little background on it. The moisturizers made with the two ingredients. Ingredients which is the 100American grass fed and Finished beef tallow. And then we also pair it with a raw Manuka honey. So that's it. We don't include any synthetic ingredients or fillers or food dyes or anything like that. And this product is intended for both men and women. So it's perfect for things like dry skin, eczema irritation, or just daily skin hydration. And again, you can use it pretty much anywhere on your body. You know, your face, your hands, your neck.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Neck.

[Trevor Comstock]

Some people even put it on their feet. One of the questions we get a lot is where you can use it. But for those who don't know, tallow is pretty amazing because it's almost identical to the natural oils that your skin produces. So it absorbs much more deeply as opposed to just sitting on top of the skin, which unfortunately is the case with a lot of other skin care products on the market. And then to take it a step further, it actually nourishes your skin. So within the tallow, there's a ton of nutrients like vitamin A, A, D, E, as well as K that your skin essentially needs to stay healthy and radiant. And then as I had mentioned, we just pair it with the Ramenuka honey, which is amazing for anti inflammatory properties as well as healing properties. So it does a lot of things like reducing redness if you have any like seborrhea on your face or like I mentioned, eczema. And it also just absorbs super deeply without clogging your pores, which is pretty amazing.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

People rave about, do we have it in stock? Your manufacturing process is kind of. You do it, you craft it. We got about 10 seconds. Is it in stock? Can people get it today? If they go?

[Trevor Comstock]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Way, you get 10% off. Reach out to Trevor. He answers. We talk about it all the time. He answers all these things. And he comes on the show to answer your question. So make contact with him. That's why we do this. Trevor Comstock. Thank you, brother. Have a great weekend.

[Trevor Comstock]

Appreciate it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Amazing young man. Amazing company. Mike Lindell, you're pretty amazing, too. Charlie Kirk's show is next. We're going to toss the baton to that first, Mike Lindell. Mike, it's a Friday. It's kicking off a weekend. You got a deal for us?

[Mike Lindell]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

We'll, we'll see you back here at 5 o'. Clock. Mike Lindell, MyPillow.com promo code War Room Charlie Kirk show is next. We are back here at 5:00pm this.

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