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Steve Bannon
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Tuesday, the 25th of November, year of our Lord 2025. Welcome back to the second hour of the Morning Edition. We are packed with nothing but hitters in this hour, just like we had hitters and fighters in the first. Ambassador RICK renell. So, Ambassador, we're talking about weaponization and punching back and impeaching Judge Bosberg, all of it. I noticed that you were doing the weekend shows and you were particularly incensed about the situation with the seditious six and issues of getting getting in the way of the chain of command, particularly when they admit that President Trump hasn't done anything wrong and the courts have upheld all the orders that President Trump has given. Do you think we need to press this harder than it's being pressed right now? I'm quite concerned. As a former naval officer, Mo's on the board at West Point, now served in Iraq after she graduated. Of confusion, particularly when you're negotiating this volatile situation in Ukraine which could end be our other, our Vietnam if things go sideways. This situation in the Middle East, Israel now is in Syria, in Lebanon. That thing is Hamas is not laying down its weapons. And you got 14,000 sailors and marines off the coast of Venezuela. We have the Chinese Communist Party. President Trump talks yesterday. It's heating up there. Big situation with China and Japan. I am more concerned than ever about causing confusion in the chain of command when we're in the kinetic part of the third World War. Ambassador Rick Grennell, your thoughts?
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Ambassador Richard Grenell
Look, we've just spent years hearing from the Democrats talking about undermining Democracy. That's all we heard. That was their campaign slogans for the 2020-2022 campaigns. Undermining democracy. They were trying to say Republicans were undermining democracy. That video is a. That they did. The seditious six. This is a call to arms to undermine the democracies. This is a call to arms, a fire in the hole, looking for people who will undermine our democracy for political gain. For their political gain. This is very clear what they. They're literally trolling the bureaucracy and the intelligence community for people who will say anything to undermine Donald Trump, undermine the duly elected leader, undermine our democracies simply for their little political gain in the midterms. This is outrageous. This is an insurrection. To have people go out and say you don't need to follow illegal orders. What people hear in the intelligence community and in the bureaucracy is the Democrats will protect me if I just say no to the commander in chief, if I don't do what I'm ordered to do. And then we somehow pretend like it's illegal or we throw it to the ninth Circuit, which always says the Republicans are wrong, Trump is wrong. This is a teetering system. And what I think Alyssa Slotkin and Michiganders need to understand is they were duped by this woman. She spent a year and a half saying, I'm an intelligence officer, I'm a former CIA official, I care about the middle ground. I'm someone who's thoughtful. I'm in the middle. I'm not political, I'm a moderate. She duped people. And what we now know as Alyssa Slotkin is one of the most left wing leaders and is literally undermining our democracy. We should say it very clearly. We should hit this extreme extremely hard. You cannot have a sanctuary city and pretend like you're not undermining democracy. You can't have your own ways of doing things and encouraging people to go against the duly elected president and then pretend like you're not mounting an insurrection or attacking our democracy. These people are hypocrites. We need to call it out and do not wait for the media to do it because they are in bed with these people. They want this to happen. They want to undermine the president because they like the debate, they like the clicks. They're all in the media for money. And so we need to be very clear about this and call them out and make sure that they understand that they don't get to undermine the duly elected president, President Trump, or mount an insurrection or do something that undermines our democracy without getting called out for it. They're hypocrites.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
One of the reasons you're one of the closest advisors to the President, Ambassador, is that you're not a theoretician. You're a man of action. What action do you support? Pete Hexith, the Secretary of War, recalling Senator Mark Kelly, Navy Captain, to active duty and court martial him under the Uniform Code of Military Justice?
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Ambassador Richard Grenell
Sir, look, because he's a US Senator, we've got to be very careful here. But there is no question that what Mark Kelly and Alyssa Slotkin are leading is undermining our democracy. They're doing it in a cute political way. They're pretending like, oh, it's only if he does the illegal actions. That's not what we heard. That is not what the video is about, and that's certainly not what intelligence officers are going to hear. And let's remember one thing, Steve. This entire Russia collusion hoax, which started right after, right before the election of 2016 when President Trump won, and then it really mounted right after, and then you lived through it at the White House in 2017, this Russian collusion hoax is exactly what they're trying to do now. Because if you remember, they got the intelligence community to undermine the President and to turn on common sense and to do things that were illegal. We now know that the FBI was helping. So you have the bureaucracy and the intelligence community that are literally going after President Trump, leaking against him, him half truths, undermining him, taking him to courts to make sure that they're mounting this insurrection against him. They're doing it all from the comfort of a federal job. And so my warning was to John Radcliffe and Tulsi Gabbard, who are doing great jobs. They need to dig deep and understand that these rotten apples within the bureaucracy who are leaking political information for political gain are the ones who need to get ousted. I would fire them immediately. I would find them and fire them. And of course, you're going to be challenged in court over it. So what? Go to court and fight it. But when you find people who sit in a federal job and decide that they get to bring in their own political views, even though they didn't campaign in Iowa and New Hampshire and South Carolina, they didn't raise money, they didn't do any of the work that our Founding Fathers described that you need to do in order to win the presidency, they don't have the right to do that. I think that we're in this state of Washington, D.C. trying to control the rest of America. We have to control Washington D.C. they work for the federal government, which is headed by Donald Trump, who is the duly elected president. He should be able to fire whoever he wants. And every single person who works in the federal bureaucracy should be implementing the vision that he gave to the American people over the last two years. And they validated and said, that's the one that we want. That's the vision, that's the path that we want. Anyone who stands in the way should resign or be fired. And we shouldn't even think twice about it.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Ambassador, where do people get you on social media? I know you're going to be a big voice in this because this thing's only going to get more intense in the days and weeks ahead. Where do people go?
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Ambassador Richard Grenell
I'm on X @RichardGrinnell. I'm on Truth @Grinnell. I'm on Instagram @RichardGrinnell. And of course, come to the Kennedy Center. Can see me here.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Ambassador, thank you so much. Great job over at the Kennedy Center. Thank you, sir.
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Ambassador Richard Grenell
Thank you.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
David Malpass, I want to talk about, you've got some issues that you've brought to my attention. You've been writing in the Wall Street Journal. But first off, just let's go around the, go around the geopolitical map here. Ukraine, the Middle east. You've got Venezuela and now Xi and Trump talked yesterday. There's the beginning of a trip that's going to be planned for the spring. Captain Fanell is going to join us on this. You were in the first term, you were at treasury, ran international, you were then head of the World Bank. Right now, are we using economic warfare enough to get to conclusions that we need? Because my concern, you see in Ukraine and other places that they're looking for American guarantees of sovereignty, security guarantees, etc. Are we using the financial capability and economic capability of the United States so we can avoid using troops? Sir?
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David Malpass
Hi, Steve. I think we have to use it much stronger. The financial strength of the US for one. China is eating our lunch in the, in the debt repayments. So that's one issue. You know, peace through strength is a really powerful message that gets 80%, 90% of the country. I think there's 10% that might say let's surrender, but you've got this giant base and platform for the US to achieve peace. But it comes through strength. And so I guess my message is, and you, you were doing it in the last hour, wake up, everybody. There's only six months left before the country freezes up for the midterm election. And it's Vital that we have the supply side revolution, the growth revolution in the US in order to have the strength that we need to flatten opposition abroad. And I don't think we're using it enough systematically. We're now putting pressure on Venezuela, which is great because they're so strong in the Western Hemisphere. You know, they have more oil resources than anybody in the world. But because of their leadership they've been pulverized. They're one of the most impoverished countries because of bad leadership. And so, and that's causing drugs to flow into the US because that's all they can do, be a channel for drugs. So we've got to wake up and really go after the global elite. Final point, Steve. You know the Amazon, in the Amazon they did this climate conference. People flew in from all over the world to talk about the climate and to spend taxpayer money. And it was good that Trump did not go into that same thing in South Africa, this giant conference, the G20 conference that just ended, they did a 30 page communique without the US being part of it. And now, and now they're going to roll it in to a giant year long party in the US So I think we have to wake up and say full stop to the global elite and the central bankers that run a lot of, a lot of the money.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
You've been, you've been adamant that these global institutions on finance, the World bank, imf, these others. It's one area we're not going in with a blowtorch and saying, hey, if we're going to try to de, weaponize the government, we have to de, weaponize these, these institutions which we fund which are really used to basically finance America's enemies to the detriment of the United States. Is that correct? I mean we have, we really scratched the surface on the massive reforms that we need at these places that we finance.
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David Malpass
I don't think so. We, you know, we had Doge, which went after the domestic agency usaid, but there was, wasn't that same movement for international organizations. They keep getting bigger. The Trump budget has this IMF quota increase, the biggest in history. That makes, that just means like equity ownership, big ownership. And China, you know, has such intense control of a lot of the institutions, same with World bank, huge appropriations still before Congress.
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Glenn Story
And.
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David Malpass
But the bigger thing I think even Steve, is, is the control of the finance system by France, by China, through the Paris Club, through the, the, through the, through the debt initiatives that are out there. If you, if people want to look into it, they can Google for example put in T20 South Africa T20 South Africa and you'll see what the think tanks did in South Africa which is was basically a full frontal attack on the US dollar. They were explicit saying they want to take it down and and so one of the things I think is going.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
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David Malpass
Yeah, Steve and I want to say hi to Beth Page, New York. You know, I ran for Senate in New York trying to beat Kirsten Gillibrand. So she'll have been there 20 years now. And that is the way Washington works with people staying forever. And the G20 is staying forever. It's this meeting that just occurred in South Africa. I hope the US is going to disinvite them to the one coming up in the, in the US they can do that. And that that shows the world that we don't appreciate that we, that we appreciate our friends and don't appreciate people that are working against us. So, so clearly on the currency, the central banks all work in order to have their currencies move up and down against each other rather than providing stability. So if you're sitting in Bethpage, New York, you're thinking about affordability, but the dollar is disappearing underneath you. So we need a very firm platform of growth for the US A supply side revolution, maybe a reconciliation bill to back it up. That will make us the strongest, most dominant nation in the world, including on crypto assets, on stable coins, stable dollar coins. And that means the Federal Reserve has to really be viewed in the same way that these global institutions are viewed as trying to dominate the world from the elite side perspective. Concretely, Steve, we have to go up against China on the debt initiative. They never lose money on international debt because they're guaranteed by these international organizations. That's one of their weak links, I think. And we also have to go straight at the dollar and say we want people around the world, whether in Venezuela or in Argentina or in Africa, to be able to use the US dollar so it holds value for them, that saves them from poverty.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
David, where can people. You're putting stuff up all the time. We'll have you back when we have a little more time to go through all this in detail. But where do people go to get all your knowledge? Because you are railing all the time about how the elite, the global elites, are trying to control the finance system to the detriment of populace throughout the world, but particularly the United States. Working man and woman, sir, where do folks go?
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David Malpass
I'm on X@DavidR. Malpassavidr. Malpass.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
And we won't hold it against you that you're putting up editorials in the Wall Street Journal every couple of days. They're actually very enlightening. Unlike. Unlike the Wall Street Journals, the rest of their editorial page. I won't get in the middle of that fight. But, David, thank you so much. And keep putting those articles up. They're amazing.
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David Malpass
Thank you, Steve.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
David was under secretary for international and the first Trump term, of course, head of the World Bank. Glenn Story. I got you on here today. Got to give you a shout out. President signed a executive order on the Muslim Brotherhood last night. Now, look, it's far from perfect. I think Loomer is actually. Laura's got a very concise analysis of it. Until you get to Qatar and Turkey, you're really not getting to the heart of the Muslim Brotherhood. But I sat in a conference room with you six weeks ago where you said, we have to make this a priority to save Texas. And it was through Patriot Mobile and other people associated with it that one of the big aspects, why Governor Abbott, I think, took a historic move and designated the Muslim Brotherhood in care as terrorist organizations in the state of Texas. What say you, sir?
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Glenn Story
Yeah, you're right. You know, that was a really important meeting that we got together and talked about this. Look, saving Texas is the single most important thing that I believe that we could do today. Because you lose our electoral college votes, it's all over. It really doesn't matter what happens in Arizona, Nevada and out that way. The way I see it.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
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Glenn Story
Yeah, you should be. I mean, it's obvious what's going on. We have the Chinese, the Muslims coming in. And quite frankly, at the end of the day, you know, let's back up a little bit. We're an activist organization and we're funded by our cell phone service. It's really that simple. And we put God, country, and family first. And, you know, I'll say this, Steve. I believe in the freedom of religion. But when your religion tries to take over a state and our laws and the Constitution and tries to just get around it, that's where I have a huge, huge problem. And I know you do, too. And, you know, we applaud you for seeing the issues that we have down here. And look, Texas. You're always welcome here in Texas.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
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Glenn Story
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Glenn Story
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Glenn Story, you're an absolute piece of work. We love you. You're a warrior and a hero. Thank you, sir.
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Glenn Story
Have a blessed day, guys.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Thank you. Brother Jack, you're spending a couple days out in Phoenix with the Turning Point team. So much is going on around the world. Captain Fennell is going to be here. I want to talk to you about China, but I got to get your thoughts on the Ukraine situation. Now, we go from a 28 plan that's kind of, you know, maybe, I'm not saying drawn up by the Russians, but leans Russian. Now we got a 19 point plan, although we haven't seen. We saw the 28 points. We haven't seen the 19. It's supposed to be more Ukrainian. We keep warning President Trump, when you start talking about sovereignty guarantees, the Europeans are not there with us. They're never going to be around. What are your thoughts? So, you know, you know that area of the world better than anybody. What are your thoughts?
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Steve Bannon
Well, Steve, thanks so much. And we're looking at this. And I remember having gone to the initial mineral deal plan along with Secretary Bessant, then President Trump took me along to Anchorage, Alaska for the sit down with Putin and Lavrov again. You know, we need to see these 19 points. We're told that the Russians agreed to the 28 points. Now you got, Secretary Driscoll flies over there, Abu Dhabi, conducts this meeting on the 19 points. But the real question here, Steve, is, okay, the news just came out. The U.S. ukraine have agreed to this, but there's another party in the conflict. And as they say, the enemy always gets a vote. And I see there one of the big points of contention here. And these are huge points of contention, by the way. NATO style guarantees, Article 5 style guarantees and the size of the military where they're talking about taking it from 600,000 cap to an 800,000 cap. That's the Current, current size of Ukraine's military today, if you, you know, you have to count for recruitment and losses, etc. But that's about the operational size of the Ukrainian army right now. So I don't understand why the Russians would agree to something like that. And when you're looking at all the military dynamics, when you're looking at the money that the EU is continued and the United States have continued to throw into this, you know, if you want to continue this war, you, you are prosecuting. You're trying to catch a falling knife. You're just trying to catch a falling knife. And when it looks at this, I don't know if the Russians are going to agree to it. I really don't.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Hang on a second. Post on the other side, Captain Fennell, as Jim Rickards, the great Jim Rickards, said on this show yesterday, the Russians won. Let's face facts, the Russians won.
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Steve Bannon
Short break, here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
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Steve Bannon
Well, Steve, that's exactly right. And you wonder if you were in a situation like this or. We just saw, by the way, our special forces apparently are involved in an anti ISIS strike over in Somalia right now where they've taken out some leaders in one of these valleys up past Mogadishu. And look, we've got men in harm's way, We've got sailors in harm's way all over the place. And what they're doing is they're giving aid and comfort to our adversaries, aid and comfort to the cartels, aid and comfort to anyone who's an enemy of the American people. It's really as simple as that. It's one thing if you want to say, oh, I criticize President Trump and I don't like this policy and I don't like what Secretary Hegseth says about trans, et cetera, fine, all right, I get that. But what you don't do is you sit up there and you suborn sedition and you suborn mutiny. That's what we call it in the Navy. That's suborning mutiny. And Steve, I think you and I both know what happens when the captain detects a mutiny plot.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
No, it's not pretty. So do you? Do you? Actually, I say this, I say they're trying to cause a mutiny, and they ought to be. I agree with Secretary Warhead said that you should recall, you should recall Mark Kelly right now and you should try him. You should court martial him. I don't know why we're not doing with more of these people.
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Steve Bannon
Your thoughts any Military member knows that if you accept that retirement, if you're accepting that pension, then that means that you are bound and held to the confines of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. You learn that day one in the military. You learn that as soon as you sign those papers. By the way, it's something that they teach you when you take your UCMJ class. Everybody knows this. So it's really simple. If you have been taking the money and he has been taking the money, then that means he is bound by the Uniform Code of Military justice and as such can be called back to active service to stand court martial for breaking the Uniform Code of Military Justice. And look, you look at something like this, and I would say, you gotta make an example. You've gotta make an example. Do we have standards or not? Look, look what they did. They just threw out the case on Comey. They threw out the case on Letitia James. We know, obviously, they're working to appeal that, but you have to play hardball because if you don't, then they will continue to do this. They will continue to undermine the president. And I said this a number of times now, what they're doing is trying to set up the next impeachment the exact same way they set up the first impeachment, with whistleblowers and leakers from the intelligence community. Remember Vindman? Remember Charamela? That's what they're trying to do. So that's supporting a felony right there, by the way, if you're leaking classified information. But they don't care because they want, though anyone who's got access to privileged information on President Trump or Secretary Hag said to be leaking it to them so that they can set up another impeachment. And if they have the ability to, if they take back the house come 2026.
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Captain Fennell
Check.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Hang for a second. I want to. I got to keep you around because I got more to go through. Captain Fennell. We're on a nice edge in the main thing against the Chinese Communist Party. And by the way, there's all kind of new coming out about us sending chips over there, which is outrageous, but I'll deal with that this afternoon. Your thoughts on. Particularly when there looks like there's a budding potential kinetic conflict coming between potentially China, the Chinese Communist Party and Japan. President Trump's trying to step the middle of it. But what are your thoughts about the seditious Six? You're a naval officer. I mean, they're trying to intrude in the chain of command at one of the most perilous times in the country's history from the Ukraine to Gaza to Venezuela to the South China Sea, Straits of Taiwan and now the East China Sea between Japan. We're on a knife's edge in this kinetic part of the Third World War. Sir.
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Captain Fennell
Yes, Steve, Obviously I agree with Jack, what Jack said and Secretary Grenell has said. Ambassador Grenell, this is a very dangerous thing that was done. There is somebody from the Navy, a retired officer, he goes by the name Commander Salamander, and he wrote something in the last day, talked about senior officer present afloat, sopa. So Captain Mark Kelly, Astronaut Mark Kelly, he was a captain in the US Navy, just like I was. That's a long time of service, understands the system very well. And he was the senior officer present for this video. And I think he should be held to account for what he said. Now I got it that he's a senator and the people of his state elected him, so we have to walk around that. But the fact of the matter is he was a senior officer. He was the president, the senior person in that video that spoke out in seditious behavior. He knows what he said. Let's just take it to peacetime. Not even Counting all the 14,000 sailors and marines you talk about off Venezuela. Just in peacetime, if a sailor doesn't want to obey the orders of the officers in front of him on an aircraft carrier and you don't pack that parachute correctly or do the things that are required to make the catapult work correctly, you'll kill somebody. So you can kill somebody even in peacetime by your own impudence and personal pick because you didn't like the officer above you. That's exactly the door that they opened and it's taboo and they should never have done that. Many of us disagreed with the policies of Joe Biden. I wasn't on active duty then. I was on active duty under Barack Obama. There was things that came down that maybe I personally disagreed with, but never in a million years would somebody conceive of saying we don't obey the orders from the President of the United States, the Commander in Chief. And that's just what they did. And they put a fig leaf on it with the unlawful orders. That doesn't get them out of jail, so to speak, for what they said there, that doing that fig leaf.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Being the senior disobey, being the senior officer presently afloat. Are you concurring with the Secretary warheadseth? Do you believe Mark Kelly, Captain Mark Kelly should be recalled to active duty as Poso just said and court martialed.
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Captain Fennell
Sir, Yes, I do. I've said that and I've written that. He is the senior officer of the six that were on that video. He was a senior naval officer, senior officer of all services. So it's, you know, he's a joint, he's got joint responsibility as well. He should be brought back on and go through the process of a court martial. And let's have America go through and learn about what it is to do that. And let's talk about the history of our country. Let's talk about previous administrations, let's talk about previous history, how previous officers were held to account. Let him go through that and let him defend himself against what he did. And if he can, fine. But I think Americans will be greatly surprised to learn the history of our nation and the history of the military subservience to the civilian sector one and two to the commander in chief and what he did by participating in that as a captain, retired and as an astronaut, where he's put his life on the line for his nation and trusted all those under him when he was flying jets off of carriers or being launched into space, he trusted all those people, thousands and thousands and thousands of service members and NASA members. He put his trust in them that they were going to obey the system. And now he's calling for that system to revolt on President Trump because he doesn't like him. It's outrageous.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Pesso, your thoughts and observations. Because Captain Fennell, you got to go pretty far in the woods to hit his tripwire when he calls for a US Senator, former Navy captain, recalled to active duty and court martialed as a necessity. Your thoughts, Steve?
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Steve Bannon
And Ken Finnell is exactly correct, as usual. Because what this is isn't about punishing Mark Kelly. It's not about retaliating against Mark Kelly or anything about that. It's about up upholding the standards of the uniform, military uniform armed services of the United States of America. If you have that chain of command, the chain of command has to be sacrosanct. The chain of command has to be unbroken. When there are issues, if you have issues with the commander, if you have issues of lack of leadership, Navy Academy just, just relieved their commandant yesterday. Some, some incidents out at Obriens in Annapolis, I'm told. So there are ways to go about this. You do it the right way if you have an issue. But what he's doing out there is grandstanding. He's putting our armed forces service members at risk. And it absolutely is a situation where we have a question. Do the members of the military, when they are members of the military, and keep in mind they did this on purpose to get that response from President Trump. They were grandstanding. They knew exactly what they were doing. That's why they went to veterans. And that's when they went to the senior man, Mark Kelly, because he got up there and he knew that he was breaking and violating the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So the question is, do we have one standard, one standard whereby in all members of the armed forces are held, or do we play games like these people are now trying to say? And just because he's done some other stuff in his private life, that means he's not held to those standards? I say no. I say hold everyone to the same standard.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Captain Slotnick gave up the game when they asked her on abc, which is not a pro, Trump, the Sunday morning show, asked her, you know, has he given any illegal orders? She said no. Also, the Supreme Court has upheld all of President Trump's directives, particularly about this invasion of the United States of America and what President Trump's doing in the sanctuary cities to bring law and order and quite frankly, commenced the process of assisting ICE in mass deportations. Do you think that damns them right there that they admit that he hasn't given any illegal orders and the courts haven't found that at the Supreme Court level, Sir?
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Captain Fennell
Yeah, that's obvious. She. What she said on abc, and then I saw her on Ms. Now or former msnbc, she. She referenced the movie A Few Good Men. What are we. What are we talking about here? We have sitting members of Congress disrupting the chain of command and Uniform Code of Military justice and the system of trust that's in place upon the officers and enlisted folks that we've had for 250 years because they hate Trump. And so then they say this, and then when you're asked directly, what is the evidence? And they say, well, you remember in a movie, Few Good Men, I mean, this is insanity. And I'm saying it again. When they are allowed to do this and to go unchecked, it will cost lives. Whether it's in combat or in peacetime, it's inconceivable that this cannot be addressed and somebody held accountable. And I don't know one veteran. One veteran, and I know a few that have a different view than this. This is outrageous.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Yeah. I tell you, we're gonna take a short break. I want to concur with even my buddies who are Democrats. I don't know one veteran so far that agrees with what happened here. It is outrageous. Short break, Captain Fennell, Jack Bosovic on the main thing next in the world.
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Steve Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Jack, you've got some breaking news. What do you got for sir?
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Steve Bannon
Well, Steve, we have some text messages that came my way. Now, this isn't involving one of the seditious six, but it is someone who's been defending the seditious six. And in fact it is text messages that were leaked to me from a source directly associated with Senator Reuben Gallego, a Democrat from Arizona, himself a Marine Corps corporal. And in these text messages, which you can see directly from him, Reuben G. Up there at the top, he's trashing the Democrat Party. He's going against his party. He's talking about how much the Democrat Party is awful. This is the same guy, by the way, who spent the entire week going on TV saying that Pete Hegseth is a coward, saying that we shouldn't investigate Mark Kelly for these statements. So he'll say that in public and he'll go after, he'll go after Hegseth, but then in private, what's he doing? He's trashing his own party and he's admitting how bad they make everybody look. And I think, I think we sent the text messages over and if you guys want to show them up, we can throw them up there because these are the messages. And look, you know, this is the what it just goes to show you that they are liars. They are two faced. They will never admit that in public, which they believe in private. These are Democrats. And you saw I press Mondame on the exact same thing when he was up there trying to play that little two step game in the Oval Office pretending always Mr. Nice. And what did Mandami do when he goes back to New York? He hired the professor that wrote the end of policing, Steve Ruben Gallego Mandami. They're mareli. They're all cut from the same cloth. Their loyalty is to their own personal brands. Their loyalty is to themselves. You can never believe the things that they.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Care about. I've got a couple of minutes here. I just want to highlight the seriousness of what's going on in the East China Sea between the CCP and Japan and how President Trump has finally stepped into the breach list. Can you give us a couple of minutes on that?
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Captain Fennell
Yes. Steve, thanks for covering this. It's very important. I know everyone's focused on the Ukraine, as they should be. But over the last month there's been A crisis evolving from between the PRC and Japan. As we recall the videos of Prime Minister Taka Ichi and President Trump aboard the USS George Washington in Tokyo Bay Yakuza Naval Base on October 28th that was, you know, looked like a really strong close relationship between the two leaders. Then on the 7th of November, Prime Minister Takaichi was questioned by an opposition party meeting member in their parliament and said, what would you do? Or what's the implication of China invading Taiwan? And Prime Minister Takeichi said, well, this is a very serious thing. I would consider it a survival threatening situation, which is something that previous prime ministers and government officials in Japan have referenced, saying it's a very serious situation. Something that President Trump would say if Russia or China were to invade Mexico or Canada, we'd say that's a very serious situation. So that's what she said. And within 24 hours, the PRC's consul general in Osaka came out and put out on X a statement that said, we have no choice but to cut off the dirty neck that has been lunged at us without hesitation. Are you ready? Which is a very direct threat from a Chinese government official on Japanese soil, essentially threatening to cut off the head of the Prime Minister. And since then, it has spiraled out of control and China has basically glommed all into the narrative to say that Japan is the aggressor because of what Prime Minister rationally. Prime Minister Takechi rationally said. And over the ensuing weeks, the Chinese, I have never seen this in all my years, ratcheted up the rhetoric, the political warfare, the cognitive warfare, the information warfare, talking about, if you do anything in this, you're playing with fire and you'll get burned. They labeled her as a militarist, no different than the Imperial Japanese army back in World War II, which is outrageous. And then they went and took firm measures. They told all their citizens not to visit Japan, which is one of the largest tourist people that come to Japan is from China. They told them, do not come the next day, told their students, do not study in Japan. Change your. Change your university. Then they came out a week or so later and said, do not told Japan, we are not going to buy any more seafood from you. That's over. And oh, by the way, the deal that we were going to discuss about beef, that's over as well. So they've ratcheted it up, ratcheted it up. And then last week they sent Chinese Coast Guard vessels inside the territorial limits of the Senkaku Islands. And then a couple of days ago, over the weekend, Chinese press reported that they're now studying a new academic area which is called the Ryuku Islands and how the history of the Ryuk Islands belongs to China. Essentially saying we're not just going to take the Senkaku's but we're going to take all of the Ryuku Islands. So that all culminated with the phone call here in the last 36 hours the President Trump.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
I'm going to get you back on hopefully tomorrow, maybe this afternoon to go through this in detail. Jack, we got to bounce. Captain, we got bounce. But Jack came said the problem he the buried lead is that we're spending too much time on the Middle east. We're spending too much time on the Israel situation, too much time with Ukraine and not enough time with the main thing. Jack, give me 30 seconds in your coordinates before we bounce.
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Steve Bannon
Well Steve, that's exactly right. This has always been about the reverse. Kissinger secure the rapprochement with the Russians and then pivot to China in a serious way. Elements of the Pentagon say they want to do this. That's the way forward for the United States. That is the challenge of the 21st century.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Charlie Kirk show is next. Jack Bosobic, you're out there. What's your coordinates? Everybody can follow you sir.
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Steve Bannon
I'll be up there. We've got a couple interviews today. We've got a human event we're going to be doing a lot and then of course flying back because we got Thanksgiving coming up soon but a lot. We've got very special episodes coming up for Thanksgiving and for for Friday including by the way the Charlie Kirk Thanksgiving dinner. We're going to be releasing all of that later today.
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Host/Interviewer (Steve Bannon)
Amazing. Jack Basobic, you're great. Captain Fennell, we keep the main thing. The main thing. Thank you sir. Agree with you on the on the seditious 6. Mike Lindell, what do you got for us brother?
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Steve Bannon
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