THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, NOVEMBER 27TH, 2025 (EP.#4958)

Summary

Real America’s Voice: The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon

Episode #4958 — November 27, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon (iHeartPodcasts)
Featured Guests: Larry Schweikart (historian), Nate Morris (Senate candidate, Kentucky)

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Episode Overview

This Thanksgiving Day episode centers on the meaning of American heritage, the historical roots of Thanksgiving, and a contemporary defense of American identity and Western civilization. Host Stephen K. Bannon steers a wide-ranging discussion that examines the foundation of the nation, westward expansion, land ownership and conflict, and current cultural debates, while featuring historian Larry Schweikart and Senate candidate Nate Morris. The episode is threaded with patriotic musical interludes and impassioned calls to resist what the panelists interpret as “left-wing” historical revisionism.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Thanksgiving Reflections & American Beginnings

Segment: [06:12–07:50]

• Bannon provides historical context for America’s Thanksgiving, framing it as a moment to recall the settlers’ journey from the first landings in Jamestown and Massachusetts to the revolution nearly 170 years later.
• Quote:
  “People know about the first Thanksgiving. But what happened in the interim to get us to...the Revolution? ...What was it that drove that kind of tremendous growth in community, that then you had 13 English colonies, sir?” (Bannon, [06:54])

2. Motivations for Settlement and Expansion

Segment: [07:51–09:26]

• Larry Schweikart elaborates on key drivers: in Virginia, pursuit of land and tobacco farming; in Massachusetts, the quest for religious freedom. Religious diversity subsequently seeded multiple colonies.

• The role of land rights (titles and deeds) is highlighted, especially the disparity between European legal norms and indigenous oral traditions.

• Quote:
  “If there were conflicts with the Indians, the settlers would always say...where’s your land deed? ...The Indians, with a couple of exceptions, had mostly an oral tradition...So they were at a disadvantage...” (Schweikart, [08:30])

3. Complexity of Native Relations and Colonial Geopolitics

Segment: [09:26–13:59]

• Bannon interjects humorously about colonial arrogance, but emphasizes the sophistication of Native alliances and strategies in their dealings with Europeans.

• Schweikart confirms Native American agency, alliances, and rivalries, adding that French colonists generally engaged more as trading partners than settlers, contrasting with English patterns.

• The segment transitions into the French and Indian War (the North American theater of the Seven Years’ War), its geopolitical roots, and its aftermath—including British taxation and westward settlement restrictions that sowed revolutionary discontent.

• Quotes:
  “It’s not like these guys are savages. They have very sophisticated alliances...Some tribes hate each other, others have gone in confederacies...They see the whites originally as a strategic asset that one side or the other can use...” (Bannon, [10:08])
  “When the English won...they took all the land all the way out to the Mississippi...But...you have so many people running out across the Appalachian Mountains...” (Schweikart, [14:12])

4. Taxes, Land, and the Road to Revolution

Segment: [13:59–16:48]

• The British victory and subsequent policies—including taxes and the Proclamation Line of 1763—are explained as flashpoints of colonial anger.

• Unpredictable policymaking and disregard for colonial land ambitions contributed to tensions leading up to the Revolution.

• Quote:
  “Not only are taxes bad, but indecisiveness is bad. People don’t like it when they have a government that they can’t rely on to make regular, sensible policy.” (Schweikart, [16:12])

5. Modern Debates on Land and Heritage — Nate Morris' Defense

Segment: [23:37–24:47]

• Nate Morris, a Kentucky Senate candidate, delivers a fiery statement rejecting “land acknowledgments” as left-wing rhetoric, asserting that America was “conquered, not stolen,” and that land was traded, purchased, and settled under Western legal traditions.

• Claims efforts to reframe American history are rooted in anti-American sentiment and urges a defense of borders, national pride, and traditional values.

• Notable Quote:
  “America was conquered, not stolen. And anyone who tries to tell you differently is either trying to rewrite history or make America weaker…Our job is not to rewrite the past. It’s to defend our future...Stolen land is rhetoric and just one more left wing attempt to weaken America from within.” (Nate Morris, [23:37])

6. Celebration of Kentucky’s Settler Spirit & Class Divides

Segment: [27:26–31:28]

• Bannon and Morris trace Kentucky and Ohio’s pioneering legacy across the Cumberland Gap, contrasting the grit of working-class settlers with modern-day political “elites.”

• Morris frames his campaign—and American destiny—as a fight between the “silver spoons” (establishment) and hard-working, patriotic citizens.

• Quotes:
  “Our people, we’re going to fight...to protect Kentucky and to protect America. ...We should never have to apologize because Western civilization has to win...” (Morris, [28:03])
  “We’ll take on the silver spoons all day long because...they didn’t have the grit, they didn’t have the wherewithal to build like our people...” (Morris, [30:14])

7. Critique of “Land Acknowledgment” and Historical Revisionism

Segment: [39:14–42:49]

• Schweikart agrees with Morris’ framing, pointing out that Indigenous peoples—and all world civilizations—fought for and seized land.

• Criticizes the notion that Native land retention was peaceful or static, using international and historical examples.

• Quote:
  “They were all fighting over land and territory. ...Left wingers somehow act like aboriginal tribes...are magically free of this desire for control of land...” (Schweikart, [41:57])

8. Economic Expansion and American Exceptionalism — The Fur Trade Story

Segment: [42:56–46:57]

• Schweikart recounts the story of John Jacob Astor, who broke government and British monopolies in the fur trade, outcompeted rivals (sometimes illegally), and helped develop U.S. economic independence and expansion.

• Bannon links this to broader resentments against monopolies like the British East India Company, identifying economic independence as a revolutionary driver.

• Quote:
  “Astor said, I’m going to put them all out of business...And in a very short time, by 1819, the American government completely pulled out of the fur trading business…He did bring America into the 19th century.” (Schweikart, [44:54])

9. American History: The Recent Century

Segment: [47:27–50:16]

• Schweikart previews his upcoming books, including “America in the 21st Century,” which will address major crises (from Y2K to COVID-19), wars, political shifts, and what he sees as Donald Trump’s profound transformation of American politics.

• Discusses the expectation vs. reality of Obama’s presidency compared to Trump’s actual influence.

• Quote:
  “In the first quarter of the 21st century, the most transformation, most transformational political figure has been Donald Trump. Far and away, he’s changed everything.” (Schweikart, [50:16])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “They see the whites originally as a strategic asset that one side or the other can use against other Indians. Correct?” (Bannon, [10:08])
• “You don’t strengthen America by apologizing for it. Our job is not to rewrite the past. It’s to defend our future…” (Nate Morris, [23:37])
• “Indecisiveness is bad. People don’t like it when they have a government that they can’t rely on to make regular, sensible policy.” (Schweikart, [16:12])
• “Left wingers somehow act like aboriginal tribes...are magically free of this desire for control of land. ...It’s just a kind of a natural consequence of human activity and no better or no worse for whites than any other group.” (Schweikart, [41:57])
• “You know, we’re up against the McConnell machine. We’re up against 40 years of incumbency. ...we will defeat Mitch McConnell’s machine...with your help.” (Morris, [31:38])

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• Thanksgiving Reflections and American Beginnings: [06:12–07:50]
• Religious Freedom, Land, & Early Settlements: [07:51–09:26]
• Native Relations, Geopolitics, and the French/Indian War: [09:26–13:59]
• British Policy, Taxes, and Uprising: [13:59–16:48]
• Nate Morris’ Controversial Land Commentary: [23:37–24:47]
• Kentucky Heritage and Working-Class Valor: [27:26–31:28]
• Land Acknowledgments & Historical Contestation: [39:14–42:49]
• John Jacob Astor & The Fur Trade: [42:56–46:57]
• Schweikart’s Upcoming Works & Trump’s Legacy: [47:27–50:16]

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Podcast Tone & Style

The tone is unapologetically combative, patriotic, and at times tongue-in-cheek, especially from Bannon as narrator and commentator. There’s a distinct emphasis on historical realism as understood from a conservative populist view. The episode is interspersed with traditional American music (including “Battle Hymn of the Republic”) and references to faith, family, and Thanksgiving gratitude, all reinforcing an atmosphere of communal reflection and resolve.

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Closing Note

This episode is a celebration and defense of traditional American values, historical memory, and what the hosts frame as the unfinished fight for Western civilization. The discussion is rooted in historical narratives, with a strong contemporary political strand running through the guest interviews and commentary.

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Useful For:
Anyone seeking insight into modern conservative interpretations of American history, populist critiques of mainstream and academic narratives, and the intersection of historical memory with current political campaigns. Patriotic and Thanksgiving motifs make the episode especially resonant for its holiday broadcast.

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Foreign. Day Thursday 27th November, year of our Lord 2025. I guess we're gonna get Nate up. As we're gonna try to work on Nate to get him up, let me know because I want to play his clip and bring him on. Larry from the Fat from actual the arrival of the pilgrims in in Massachusetts, the Bay Colony and the the entrepreneurs, the freebooters, the Cavaliers down at Jamestown, and it's essentially, I guess, what, about 170 years from that moment to the revolution. Is that my math generally correct?

[C]

Yes. I'm terrible at math.

[E]

So let's say 170 years to the revolution or maybe even Longer if you take it from the revolution that gets you to 1949. A lot of people learning about their country don't realize there's this vast, you know, it's over 150 years, 170 years, 175 years from when the first Argonauts arrive until we really get to the Revolution. That's kind of a very, you know, people know about the first Thanksgiving. But what happened in the interim to get us to remember when the revolution starts? Philadelphia is, I think, the second largest English speaking city outside of London. What was it that drove that kind of tremendous growth in community that then you had 13 English colonies, sir?

[C]

Well, in different things. In Virginia, it was, as you said, mostly a quest for land. And there were good tobacco lands. Once they figured out tobacco was a cash crop, people couldn't wait to get here and start their own tobacco plantations. Of course, more than half failed, but that's, that's the way it is anytime. It was a little different in Massachusetts because so many of the early settlers there were coming in for religious freedom. They heard that the Pilgrims got there, that they hadn't been, you know, squashed or extinguished by the Crown, that they were thriving with their own religion. And so all sorts of other religious groups, sects began to come in, whether it was the Quakers who moved out into Pennsylvania, whether it was the Catholics who came into Maryland. It was kind of a religious movement that sparked the rise of New England into all of these colonies. But the second key element there is land, that you could always get more land. Now, we've kind of harped on this business of titles and deeds, but it is important that if there were conflicts with the Indians, the settlers would always say to the Indians, okay, where's your land deed? Where's your title? And of course, they didn't have it. The Indians, with a couple of exceptions, had mostly an oral tradition, and they didn't have written titles and deeds. So they were at a disadvantage that against Western Europeans who in fact.

[E]

But hang on, but hang on, hang on. If some guy's gonna walk up to me and say, hey, look, where's your title? Where's your deed? Don't you get a tomahawk in the head or hatch. And the guy goes, hey, here's my title. Suck on this, suck on this, pilgrim.

[C]

Of course you do.

[E]

I mean, what kind of wise ass is gonna ask the Indian? I don't think they're asking Squanto. Hey, Squanto, you guys got deeds for this place?

[C]

No, you're Absolutely right. Which is why there's constant frontier warfare. Everywhere you look, there's warfare between whites and Indians and they would draft treaties. But again, these treaties are hard to enforce because you don't have hard.

[E]

But hang on. I want everybody to understand though, there is between the whites and the native population, the aboriginal population, the Indians, however they have. It's not like these guys are savages. They have very sophisticated alliances. They have very sophisticated strategy. Some tribes hate each other, others have gone in confederacies to make sure that they are strong. They see the whites originally as a strategic asset that one side or the other can use against other Indians. Correct. I mean, they don't start off with the Pilgrims versus the, the tribes of the north. And even in Jamestown, although they were attacks, no doubt. But the initial thing is they said, hey, how do we use these whites and leverage against other tribes that we have ancient vendettas with. Correct.

[C]

Yes. It was very much like having, I don't know, a nation the size of Holland, if you want to liken the Pilgrims and the people of Massachusetts to a Holland compared to all these other big powers, Indian confederations, whether it was the Mohicans, the Hurons, the Narragansetts, the Penobscots, the Patuxents, you have all of these different tribes. Some of them are allied with each other, some of them are deadly enemies to each other. Some of them ally with the whites, some of them oppose the whites. And it's not just the whites. It gets even more complicated because the Indians know that some whites are English and some whites are French. And by and large, the French had very good relations with the Indians because they didn't try to set up giant population centers. In fact, they greatly restricted immigration to Canada in order to protect their fur trading business and their fur trading posts. They treated the Indians more as trading partners as opposed to opponents who needed to be conquered or whatnot. So there are all these variations of relationships between Indians and whites that go beyond just racial skin color. It includes nationalities and includes tribal relations between different Indian groups.

[E]

This got so complicated in the first global war, the Seven Years War. The aspect in North America was the French and Indian wars where the, where, you know, the Indians were allied on both sides, some with the French, some with the British. It was that war of which Washington was a young, I think he was a colonel in the Virginia militia that really, the English came back later and said, hey guys, we need to tax you guys. You got to do a little something for the effort here. Of all the money we put in. In addition, we're going to have to have frontier forts and troops to protect you from the Indians. In addition, of course, the colonists. You ask any American, hey, we're going to tax you. They go, hang on. Say you're going to do what?

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It was not.

[E]

Tell me about the French and Indian War. Because that was that part of that big buildup that over those hundred some years, you had Spain, you had France, and you had the British all looking for the prize of this continent. Because very quickly the reports got back that this is a paradise. I mean, you know, they say that part of the reasons George III went mad is that he lost the North American empire. And it was so the reports was it was like a paradise with unlimited timber and rivers and this earth that could grow anything. Talk to me about the three geopolitical Spain, France, and then in England that fought over this for so long, leading up to our own revolution.

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Well, the French, as I said, saw Canada as a wealthy ground for trade of all sorts of pelts. Beaver was the most popular at the time, but of course, deer, elk, all sorts of, you know, foxes and bears, everything else. And so they established a very large empire running all the way down the part of the Mississippi River. The Spanish had come in 100 years earlier into the Mexico region after defeating the Aztecs. And they started a series of farming plantations in Comiendas where they rewarded their conquistadors with. With. With land. And they were moving northward and out of Mexico eastward now to Florida, northward as well. Then you had the English come in. So when war broke out in Europe, obviously these colonies were going to be at war with each other in North America. And so immediately they all scrambled to see who could make alliances with which Indian groups as well. When the English won the Seven Years War, the French and Indian War, as we call it, and of course, I have to always remind my students that the French did not fight the Indians. The French and Indian War was when the French allied with the Indians to fight the English, and the English won. They extracted a high cost, and they took all the land all the way out to the Mississippi. And so now you have this issue of land. And not only are the British saying, we're going to tax you to pay for the cost of the war that we just fought over there, but because you have so many people running out across the Appalachian Mountains and trying to settle or hunt, we're going to only give out licenses to certain groups to go over there. And the rest of you are prohibited from crossing the mountains to hunt and settle. Well, that's not going to fly to a people who were very accustomed to moving where they wanted, when they wanted, and if they could protect themselves against the Indians settling where they wanted. So there was a huge uproar over the proclamation line of 1763, and as a result, Parliament reversed itself and said, okay, never mind, never mind, you can go, you can go back out there. But it wasn't too long before they reversed themselves a second time, said, no, no, wait, those licenses are still in place. You can't go out there. As with anything, not only are taxes bad, but indecisiveness is bad. People don't like it when they have a government that they can't rely on to make regular, sensible policy. So that land ordinance helped pave the.

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Hey, Nate Morris here is my family and I get ready for the holiday season. I've got so much to be grateful for. We live in the greatest country on the earth and I'm running for the United States Senate to keep it that way. Thanksgiving's about American greatness and American settlers. The sacrifice, the determination and the conviction of our great ancestors that conquered this nation. The settlers who came here brought with them written laws, property rights, industry, and eventually created a constitutional republic that's the envy of the world. I wanted to address a growing trend on the left and their latest fad all this crap about land Acknowledgments I've got news for you. America was conquered, not stolen. And anyone who tries to tell you differently is either trying to rewrite history or make America weaker. America was negotiated for, it was fought over and it was settled by ancestors who believe in private industry and law and order. Manifest Destiny. We bought Alaska from Russia and the Louisiana Purchase was purchased from France. And to all the people trying to acknowledge this land, notice how they aren't leaving it or they aren't talking about who these Indians really were. The left wants to judge America by standards no other nation in the in the history could meet. That's not honesty, it's anti American. They hate us for being American. We negotiated, traded and signed treaties covering millions of acres. Compare that to how Europe, Asia or the Middle east shifted borders for thousands of years. The Apaches in the Sioux, they weren't in a Disney movie. They were warrior nations. Heck, even the Comanches were cave dwellers in Wyoming until they got horses and conquered half the United States. You don't strengthen America by apologizing for it. Our job is not to rewrite the past. It's to defend our future with border security, national pride, strong families and strong communities. That's how you honor the people who built this nation. Stolen land is rhetoric and just one more left wing attempt to weaken America from within. And we're not going to let them take it away.

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Nate Morrison joins us now. As you know, I've done this show, I guess, for not quite 15 years, but Breitbart radio, we did it and then here at the war room and we try to keep it non political, but I was so blown away by Nate's little clip that he did or spot that he did that asked him to change things up when he would join us. Nate, what got you worked up on this one? Because when I saw it, I go, wow, I've been waiting for someone to say that for a long time. And particularly after coming off of Ken Burns American Revolution. Like I said, Burns has got a little bit of woke in there, but it talks about a big part of this, in fact, at the very beginning is about your home state, the commonwealth in Kentucky, really Ohio and Kentucky in those lands that were just on the other side of the Appalachian and the Allegheny that really proved what we call the old Northwest, old Northwest Territory. And in fact, they have George was it Rogers who was the great conqueror there, one of the great military figures comes out there in the battles of the revolution. So what got you all worked up on this, Nate?

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Well, Steve, one of the big reasons why I got in this U.S. senate race here in Kentucky to replace Mitch McConnell is I believe Western civilization is hanging in the balance with everything we do as a country. Steve, you may recall I've called for a full moratorium on any new immigration coming into our country until we deport every single legal and send them back where they came from. These are some of the policies and some of the vision that we have for this campaign that we are fighting the left to make sure that Western civilization wins. America is the last bastion of Western civilization. We look to Europe and what used to be our allies and our friends and those countries are gone. We've seen them gone right before our very eyes. And the laugh now is trying to attack America, its founding and even the premise of Thanksgiving. And it really activated me. It activated me and made me enraged that we're allowing this kind of discussion to have in our country. And I think, you know, we have to remember that we conquered this nation, Western civilization. We conquered what is North America. And we need to celebrate that. That is a thing to celebrate in this country and not be ashamed of. And we need to focus on our future and how we win in the future and not trying to apologize for the past, not trying to apologize for our heritage, not trying to apologize for what we did to build the greatest country in the history of the world.

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You know, you see it on American Revolution, but if you studied burns, American Revolution. I mean, Kentucky and Ohio and those places just across the mountain range from the, from the British colonies on the, just hanging on the coast. When people got there, they were blown away about the vegetation and the rivers and it was just. And these were the best people in the world of hearts. They had nothing. They brought everything with them. Talk to me about the folks in Kentucky today. They still honor that heritage of, really at the very beginning of the nation, of how prized Kentucky was in Ohio.

[D]

Absolutely, Steve. I'm so proud that I'm a ninth generation Kentuckian. And my family, they've worked in the mines, they've worked in the fields, they've been farmers, they've taught in our schools, they've worked in the factories. My family descends from Morgan county, which is right in the heart of central Appalachia. Steve, our people are fighters. We've been fighting since the very beginning, since we came over the Cumberland Gap. And you may recall that famous movie, the Fighting Kentuckian, the John Wayne movie. I used to see that as a kid and get so inspired because you know what? Our people, we're going to fight. If anyone ever tried to invade our country, the Kentuckians, we'd be the first ones to sign up and say, we're going to fight to protect what's ours, to protect Kentucky and to protect America. And you see so many of our great citizens that fight our wars, that help build our country. And unfortunately, the left, they want to make us feel bad for our history, for our heritage and for what we've done for this country. And Steve, I've had enough. We're not going to apologize ever again. We should never have to apologize because Western civilization has to win. And everything hangs in the balance on who we send to the Senate, on who we send to Washington and ultimately who we elect as president. Thank God for President Trump because he's given Western civilization new life again and protection. And that's what I'm fighting for, Steve. And that's why I want to go to the U.S. senate.

[E]

You know, you mentioned Cumberland Gap, the British, specifically Cumberland Gap, because that's the way to get really from Virginia through the cause. West Virginia was part of Virginia at the time, to get through to Kentucky and to Ohio and the Ohio River Valley. They tried to set ordinances up, as Larry said, Dr. Schweiger said earlier, tell people you can't do it. It didn't stop Them the grit, determination, and just plain old American cussedness. Those folks kept blowing through the Cumberland gap. Did they? They didn't listen when the British said, no, you can't go there. It's kind of after the French Navy war, it's kind of off limits. Just stay on the coast. They go, yeah. No, no, no. The tide Border aristocracy is not our crowd. We want to take a look over in Kentucky, sir.

[D]

That's right. And Steve, you may recall I'm running against a guy that was to the manner born. I mean, this is a silver spoon kind of guy. This is. This doesn't represent what Kentucky's about. We're about fighters. We're about grit, we're about determination. We're about rolling up your sleeves and doing what has to be done to protect and save the country. And we'll take on the silver spoons all day long because the silver spoons and you, I'm sure you just saw the. The Cheney funeral. I looked around at the deep state and I looked around at all the people, the swamp creatures that have nearly destroyed our country, and they didn't have the grit, they didn't have the wherewithal to build like our people have built. And when we're talking about the American working class, we're talking about the people that have done the work in this country and that made it possible for everybody else. These are. Steve, these are the folks that I'm fighting for. That's why I'm in this race. I think about my family, 19 of my family members who worked in an auto plant. They weren't given anything. And so many Kentuckians have that story. And that's why we got to send somebody to the United States Senate who's not a silver spoon and somebody that has that same spirit that came over the Cumberland Gap and is ready to fight like a true Kentuckian.

[E]

Nate, where do people go to find out more about you on social media, and particularly where they go about your campaign, to find about your fight against the Mitch McConnell legacy that's running against you.

[D]

Well, Steve, you know, we're up against the McConnell machine. We're up against 40 years of incumbency. I'm asking all your listeners, go to natemorris.com chip in, make an investment in this campaign. I need your help. The campaign needs your help, and we will defeat Mitch McConnell's machine once and for all right here in the bluegrass with your help. And I'm so grateful, Steve, for all your listeners and all their great support. They've given us.

[E]

Sir. Thank you very much. Appreciate you. Appreciate you coming and good luck. Look forward to seeing you in the future.

[D]

Thank you. Steve. Happy Thanksgiving.

[E]

Thank you. Brother Odette's going to take us out. Larry Swigert on the other side.

[F]

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[G]

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[E]

Thank you. Dr. Striker, is Nate Morris the Senate candidate in the Commonwealth of Kentucky? Is he correct, sir?

[C]

Is he correct about What? That Mitch McConnell is a kind of undesirable character. Be specific here. He said so much.

[E]

Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Larry Sweichart is one of the very first guys to go for Trump. Give that story. You were one of the first on the Trump train back a lot, many over a decade ago, sir.

[C]

The story was I was a cruiser in February of 2015 and I was at a Young Americas event. You've done a number of those talks. I was giving a talk at a Young America's event event and YF event, and I met Cruz and let's just say that the interactions I had with him didn't impress me. And shortly thereafter, about a month or so later, when Trump came down the escalator, he was giving a speech here in Arizona. My wife and I are still teaching at the University of Dayton and we were vacationing out here in Arizona near my parents. And I noticed that they had a special news flash on the television that Trump was scheduled to speak at the Phoenician Resort, but they had to move it to the Arizona Convention Center. Phoenician holds a couple hundred, Arizona Convention center holds thousands. And I thought immediately, wow, the fact that there's this much interest so early in Trump is, is a very telling moment. And the more I listened to him and he was highlighting illegal immigration is the number one, number one thing in America. First I go, he's the only one talking about this. I think he's got a real shot to win. And when I said that to people like Jonah Goldberg and you know, all of the NRO crowd, they pooh, pooh, no, he'll never be president. And I started following the voter registration totals and the polls and so forth. And I predicted In October of 2016, you can read it in my book, how Trump Won, that Trump would win with between 300 and 320 electoral votes. And I was within four electoral votes of that call.

[E]

Oh, I remember, I remember. So is Nate right, by the way? So you were early on in this. We know you're dead right on McConnell. What about this whole thing about this, what their land acknowledgement. I notice a lot of times you watch these left wing things and they get people up there and they take like 30 minutes to say who owns what parcel of land. Is, is. Nate's all worked up about that. What your comments, sir?

[C]

Well, you know, his term that it's a conquest is, is true. But you have to understand that, as we said over and over again in our earlier segments, they were all fighting over land and territory. The Indians were fighting each other over territory. What do you think was going to happen when the last of the Mohicans was gone? The Huron were going to take over the Mohicans hunting lands. So left wingers somehow act like aboriginal tribes or groups that were in some place before the whites arrived, somehow are magically free of this desire for control of land. Well, the Zulus invaded half of South Africa and kicked out other tribes so they could control the land there. It's. It's just a kind of a natural consequence of human activity and no better or no worse for whites than any other group.

[E]

You've got a very special story you want to tell now about what ties all this together. Why don't you lay it out for the audience?

[C]

Well, so we've talked about the movement westward, and there was great concern with furs especially. The British had a company called the Hudson Bay Company that was the major competitor to the French fur companies. After the United States became the United States, there was a guy who was selling musical instruments in New York named John Jacob Astor, and somehow he started looking into furs. He heard about it from a friend that, you know, they were drinking and he heard about it from friend. He said, well, let me look into that. So once one thing led to another, and before too long, Aster created the American Fur Company, operating in many of the same areas where the British were. But they weren't the main competitor. And this is the amazing thing. The biggest competitor in these areas was American monopolistic fur companies that were given fur trading licenses by the US Government. And Astor said, I'm going to put them all out of business. So he developed a huge network of Indians and white, they're called engagies, people who were traveling fur trappers and salesmen. And they would bring him the furs because he paid more. And to Indians he also paid in alcohol and guns, which you weren't supposed to do. And in a very short time, by 1819, the American government completely pulled out of the fur trading business. And we ended a government monopoly, largely due to John Jacob Astor, who built a fortune. And then he took it back to New York and he poured it into building apartment buildings. Astor is unlike most other big American entrepreneurs, say Carnegie or Rockefeller, in that he didn't give away much of his fortune to charity. He almost stands alone in that way. But he did bring America into the 19th century.

[E]

When you say that he brought it into the 19th century because the The British or the Canadians still gave, just like the British East India Company. I keep saying the revolution wasn't just about the Crown and how the Crown had corrupted Parliament, but it was also about the monopolistic power they were giving, like to the British East India Company. This is one of the reasons that the freebooters like John Hancock and Sam Adams took particular umbrage with, with that arrangement is the Hudson Bay Company. They were still getting, they still got what it's a writ from the Crown to have a monopolistic power up in, in Canada, whereas they essentially ran Canada, it seemed like, for, for 100 years.

[C]

Right. So it was asker not only against the US Government, but the British government as well, and he soon came to, to dominate all that. Yeah, these, these special licenses and privileges that were given out to the British East India Company, for example, proved to be a major problem for the government. As you know, they had a Tea act that lowered the price of tea. Most Americans don't really understand that the Tea act lowered the price of tea, but it didn't matter because Americans weren't getting their tea from the British anyway. They were getting their tea from smugglers at a much, much, much lower price. So I liken it to the fact that you're on the freeway and let's say the speed limit is 65. But what do most people go? Most people go 70, 75, and the government passes an edict, a law saying, oh, we're going to allow you to go 67 miles an hour, but we're going to quadruple our enforcement. If we're caught going one mile over 67 miles an hour, we'll throw you in jail for a year. Well, what happens to the overall speeds? They all fall because now the penalty for getting caught is, is not worth the chance of going too much faster. And that's why the colonists revolted. They said, we're just going to throw this tea into the drink and nobody's going to be able to have it.

[E]

Amazing. Larry, I've got a few minutes left in this segment and then because I want to play all of Odette's Battle Hymn of the Republic so people can go out with that for the noon hour. Talk to me about the books. Talk to me particularly. First is coming out, what, the 6th of February, America in the 21st century. What is it about? I know you take, I guess, the first quarter of the century and you want to do a history book about it. What is your angle of attack on this?

[C]

Well, interestingly, we started the 21st century with a virus, the Y2K virus, that wasn't what it was cracked up to be in large part because American industry took it seriously and had already fixed their computers by then. For those who don't remember, the Y2K virus was a computer virus, supposedly where computers had only had two numerals like 99 for 1999 or 98 for 1998. No one knew what was going to happen when it flipped over to a new century. And many insiders were greatly concerned that it would revert to 1900 and that everything would shut down. And I mean, I was hearing horror stories that, you know, the jails were going to open and the Social Security checks weren't going to go out and welfare checks weren't going to go out. Well, anyway, American industry took that very seriously and they fixed it. But we began this 21st century on a virus and kind of at the end, not quite the end, but in 2020, we pretty much end the first quarter century with a real virus, the China virus or Covid. And it was a world changing event. You know, people say, well, how do you know what's significant in history? And my answer is always that which affects the greatest number of people over the longest period of time. And I think almost any observer, even now, only five years later, will say the COVID virus affected a gigantic number of people and will affect them over a large period of time.

[E]

So what in the, in the arc of the story, it is, it's an American perspective. So you've got the Iraq war, you got nine, 11, you got the Iraq war, you got the Afghan war, you have Katrina, you have the financial implosion of 2008, then Obama and then the rise of Donald Trump and of course the fourth turning we've been in since then.

[C]

Yes. And what. So I deal in a lot of ironies in this book. And another big irony, and you'll remember this quite well, when Obama came out, became president in 2009, there was a view, especially on the left, that he was going to be a quote, transformative president and he was going to change our nation. He was going to end racism. Well, actually he made it worse. But he was going to do all these great things, hope and change, and nothing came to pass at all. He passed one major piece of, of legislation in eight years, which was the failed Obamacare bill. The irony is that in the first quarter of the 21st century, the most transformation, most transformational political figure has been Donald Trump. Far and away, he's changed everything.

[E]

Quite extraordinary. Looking forward that. That is 6th of February of next year. America in the 21st century, correct?

[C]

Correct.

[E]

And when is American biography come out?

[C]

American biography comes out on Father's Day 2026. You're gonna love it. I mean, just these people's stories are incredible.

[E]

How many. How many total stories? I don't want to give away too much of the book, but just not the names. How many total biographies link the beginning to the current time?

[C]

100.

[E]

So great. Only Larry Swiger could do that. Okay, short commercial break. Odette's going to take us out. We're going to come back and wrap up on Thanksgiving Day, a day for giving thanks to God Almighty about your life, your country, your community, your family, all of it. Short break. Back in a moment.

[F]

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[D]

Okay, so for the final trivia question, what is the largest mammal in the world? Reminder, no phones allowed. Sir, in the orange. Phone away, please.

[B]

Um, my kid is smart.

[E]

Smoke alarm sent an alert through the Ring app.

[G]

Okay, sure.

[E]

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[D]

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[G]

We've come to the time in the season when family and friends gather near to offer a prayer of thanksgiving or blessings. We've known through the years to join hands and thank the creator. Now, when Thanksgiving is due and this year, when I count my blessings, I'm thanking the Lord, he made you. This year, when I count my blessings I'm thanking the Lord he made you. I'm grateful for the laughter of children the sun and the wind and the rain the color of blue in your sweet eyes the sight of a highball and train the moon rise over a prairie and a oh love that you've made new and this year when I count my blessings Thanking the Lord he made you this year when I count my blessings I'm thanking the Lord he made you. And when the time comes to be.

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Going.

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[C]

Foreign.

[E]

Cash Thanksgiving the Thanksgiving Song Larry Swigert, where do people go about these new books coming out? You put up history every day. You were the great living American historians. Where do, where does everybody go?

[C]

You can go to either my two websites, wildworldofhistory.com and as of today, we've got a number of Black Friday sales. Most of them include Patriots history or some of the other books that are out there right now. We have full curriculum in US History for high schoolers in US in world history. I've just completed a book in government or civics, one semester course. And I'll have a one semester course in economics ready by March. And if you want more political commentary, I follow polls and do a lot of analysis as you know of this kind of stuff. You can find me at the wild worldofpolitics.com where at least three days a week I do today's news and I look at about 40 to 50 different news items including some pretty weird ones and make some smart ass comments.

[E]

You've got a puckish sense of humor. Doctor. Thank you so much for joining us on Thanksgiving Day. Always love doing this. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.

[C]

Thanks, Steve.

[E]

Everybody. Have a have a great Thanksgiving Day. We're gonna be back tomorrow with our Black Friday special. Got a very I've got amazing. Sam Tannehouse is going to join us on Saturday. You're not going to miss this. It's going to be absolutely incredible. I want to thank Denver Real America's Voice, our production team here. We love doing these, doing these special shows. Going to leave you now with Odette. The Battle Hymn of the Republic will take you out for the rest of your Thanksgiving Day. Giving thanks to all. Thank you so much. See you tomorrow.

[F]

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