Podcast Summary: The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon (Ep. #4847)

Date: October 13, 2025
Podcast: Real America’s Voice – War Room
Host: Steve Bannon, with Jack Posobec, Ben Harnwell, Dave Brat
Main Theme:
Historic Middle East Peace Conference & Trump’s Global Leadership

Overview

This episode centers on the transformational peace conference in Egypt, where President Trump’s leadership is catalyzing a landmark deal in the Middle East. The hosts and panel discuss the emergence of a two-state solution between Israel and Palestine, the evolving roles of international stakeholders, the ideological and religious implications for Christians, and what this means for the United States’ position in global affairs. The conversation also touches on narrative warfare, Christian heritage in the Holy Land, and the looming challenge posed by the Chinese Communist Party.

Key Topics & Insights

1. The Getter Promotion, Miriam Adelson, and Donor Influence

[00:00–00:55]

• The episode opens with promotion for the social media platform Getter, highlighting conservative voices.
• Conversation shifts to Miriam Adelson (Sheldon Adelson’s widow), a major GOP donor. Bannon and Brat discuss her deep commitment to Israel, questioning American vs. Israeli loyalty among key donors.

Quote:
“I actually asked her once… I said, so, Miriam, I know you love Israel. What do you love more, the United States or Israel? She refused to answer. That might mean Israel, I must say.”
– Unidentified Female Speaker [00:35]

2. Trump’s ‘World-Historical’ Leadership in the Middle East

[00:56–03:45]

• Brat and Bannon laud Trump’s unique, commanding stature at global summits.
• Trump, according to Brat, is the “world historical leader” responsible for the peace moment—drawing on both religious and philosophical (Hegel, Kierkegaard) perspectives.

Quote:
“We don’t have peace because of the Middle East or because of Israel...we have peace because of one man, and it’s President Trump.”
– Dave Brat [01:42]

3. Humility & Empathy: Trump’s Off-Camera Moments

[03:45–06:33]

• Bannon highlights Trump’s private meetings with families of hostages, emphasizing his humility and refusal to turn these into media events.
• Jack Posobec is brought in to emphasize Trump’s empathetic qualities—“a man who deeply, deeply cares about the wounds of war.”

Quote:
“It’s so rare in politics where you actually get to do something that is just objectively good and an absolute good. And that’s what he’s done today.”
– Jack Posobec [06:20]

4. Narrative Warfare & the Media in Gaza

[06:34–09:39]

• Discussion on the power of narrative in modern conflict and the importance of transparency regarding the treatment of hostages and the reality inside Gaza.
• Posobec urges that protections for Christians and holy sites be central in any settlement.

Quote:
“Show it all. Absolutely show it all. Get it all out there...there are protections for the Christians who are on the ground here...rebuilding of the churches. Full funding for this absolutely has to be at the forefront.”
– Jack Posobec [08:02]

5. The Two-State (and Three-State?) Solution

[09:40–16:34]

• Bannon outlines the contours of the new peace arrangement:
  • A proto-Palestinian state in Gaza
  • Security guarantees from Turkey and other Arab states
  • No mass displacement of Palestinians
  • Major redevelopment to be financed by Gulf countries
  • Israeli settlement expansion halted in Judea and Samaria
• Bannon proposes a controversial “three-state solution” with a Christian state to safeguard holy sites, sparking debate with Harnwell and Posobec.

Quote:
“If you’re going to have a two-state solution, you have to have a three-state solution. You have to have a Christian state. We can no longer just say take it through the Muslims and the Jews. It just can’t work.”
– Steve Bannon [11:20]

Counterpoint:
“You will never, ever, ever get out [of the Middle East]. If you go down this road and have a Christian state there, you are never ever getting out of the Middle East, ever.”
– Ben Harnwell [18:03]

6. The Catholic and Protestant Perspective on Peace & Reason

[19:45–21:47]

• Brat invokes historical religious pluralism and philosophy (Aristotle, Aquinas, Maimonides) as models for peaceful coexistence.
• Posobec jokingly foregrounds Catholic vs. Protestant approaches and the need for hierarchy and reason.

Quote:
“All it takes is reverting to what’s called human reason. You don’t have to do religion.”
– Dave Brat [21:08]

7. Geopolitical Realities: Erdoğan, the Turks, and Shifting Alliances

[22:18–23:30]

• Bannon notes the unique presence of Turkish military in the new security framework—the return of historical forces such as the Turks (Ottoman echoes) to Jerusalem and Gaza.
• The presence of 25 nations reflects global interest and a new regional order.

8. Trump as the "Magnifier" of Office—Not the Other Way Around

[27:33–28:36]

• Harnwell’s closing reflection: presidents are usually magnified by the office, but Trump magnifies the office through his personality and presence.

Quote:
“President Trump isn’t magnified by the office of the presidency. He magnifies the office of the presidency...as a world historical figure.”
– Ben Harnwell [27:33]

9. U.S. Leadership, European Weakness, and the China Challenge

[29:10–34:59]

• Dave Brat laments the decline of Christian Europe and praises Trump’s hope-giving leadership.
• Bannon and Posobec pivot to the main global competition: the Chinese Communist Party, warning listeners that Middle East events—while significant—are “a sideshow to the main event” with China.
• Posobec details China’s Belt & Road Initiative’s deepening influence in the region, connecting the Silk Road legacy to present-day strategic ambitions.

Quote:
“This is the reason, folks, that gold blew through 4,100 bucks, okay?… Xi is trying to destroy de-dollarization and destroy the dollar as the prime reserve currency.”
– Steve Bannon [30:38]

Quote:
“Don’t think for a second that China isn’t all over what’s happening in the East Med…they are reconstituting the Silk Road, Aleppo, Palmyra…It’s why those areas of Syria matter so much.”
– Jack Posobec [32:12]

10. Final Reflections: Restoration of U.S. Global Standing

[34:22–36:02]

• Observation on Trump’s renewed stature as the “leader of the free world,” as 25 nations’ leaders clamor for photos.
• Bannon and Posobec compare Trump’s popularity with predecessors, stressing his unique ability to “make things happen.”

Quote:
“He has reestablished his role as the leader of the free world…But you look at this and it has the ability of having the spillover effects of bringing that economic prosperity back.”
– Jack Posobec [34:22]

Quote:
“You had General Washington, you had Lincoln, and you got Trump for all his imperfections…This is one of the greatest leaders this country has ever produced.”
– Steve Bannon [36:32]

Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• “[Trump] makes the right choices…he’s making the world-historical choices for us, thank God, and we’re gonna have peace.”
  – Dave Brat [02:33]

• “You have to have a Christian state. We can no longer just say take it through the Muslims and the Jews. It just can’t work.”
  – Steve Bannon [11:20]

• “Show it all. Absolutely show it all. Get it all out there…there are protections for the Christians who are on the ground here…”
  – Jack Posobec [08:02]

• “President Trump isn’t magnified by the office of the presidency. He magnifies the office of the presidency.”
  – Ben Harnwell [27:33]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:00–00:35]: Getter promotion and opening banter
• [00:35–01:42]: Miriam Adelson, donor loyalties, and influence
• [01:42–03:45]: Trump’s leadership in the Middle East, religious and philosophical framing
• [03:45–06:33]: Trump’s humility with hostage families (off-camera moments)
• [06:34–09:39]: Media narratives, Gaza, and protection for Christians
• [09:40–16:34]: Explaining the two-state/three-state solutions—debate among panelists
• [19:45–21:47]: Historical religious philosophy—coexistence & reason
• [22:18–23:30]: Turkish role, new regional security, historic echoes
• [27:33–28:36]: Trump vs. the presidency—world historical figure
• [29:10–34:59]: European decline and the China challenge
• [34:22–36:02]: Trump’s global reception & final comparisons with past US presidents

Final Thoughts

This episode provides an in-the-moment chronicle of a monumental diplomatic shift, with the hosts crediting President Trump’s singular leadership style and framing the new Middle East arrangement as “America first” realism. Spirited debate over the religious future of the Holy Land reveals deep ideological divides within the conservative movement. The program’s signature blend of philosophical analysis, realpolitik, and populist rhetoric is on full display—underscored by reminders that, while the Middle East is central, the competition with China remains the "main event" for America’s future.

For Further Updates:

• Follow Ben Harnwell: [Getter: Harnwell] [28:41]
• Follow Dave Brat: [Getter & X: BradEconomicSon] [30:09]
• Follow Jack Posobec: [Human Events & social media, back up at 2pm for continued coverage] [35:45]