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But I actually asked. I'm going to get her in trouble with this. But I actually asked her once. I said, so, Miriam, I know you love Israel. What do you love more, the United States or Israel? She refused to answer. That means. That might mean Israel, I must say.
Dave Brat
Wow.
Steve Bannon
The largest donor to the Republican Party, Sheldon Adelson's widow. And it's not. She's a woman of amazing accomplishments in her own right. I think she's a PhD in physics or she's absolutely quite brilliant. Pretty tough. Pretty tough hombre and kind of runs that deal with an iron fist. You either got to be with Israel all the way in or you don't get any money. But right there. Is Jack Posobec with us. We're getting Posobic up. I want to make sure that we get him. I want to get his thoughts on this. Dave Brat. You had to see this happen inside of Congress, how tough it is. But the president, this was going off script today, ad libbing. But that was a. That was a shot across the bow, was it not?
Dave Brat
Yeah, well, it was very clear. And you can just tell when he's in the room in the Knesset, when he's in the room in Egypt. He is the commander. He is the leader. Harnwell was bringing it up before with the world historical leader. And so that. That is the key. And he. We don't have peace because of the Middle east or because of Israel or any. We have peace because of one man, and it's President Trump. That's what it means to be that world historical leader. And today, you know, in the speech today, I mean, he had some. He proclaims peace at the Knesset. He says it's the beginning of the age of faith and hope. And then I give my deepest thanks to Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac and Jaco. That's what made the choice. It's funny Because Trump, he doesn't come across as religious. He doesn't come across as wanting to be an intellect. You could be the smartest person in human history and it doesn't matter unless you make the choice. And that's what Harnwell brought up Hegel before, but Kierkegaard came in and critiqued Hegel, the smartest guy. He said it would have been the best philosopher the world has ever known. The intellect, the brains. But he didn't make the choice in the Christian tradition for Jesus. And so Kierkegaard wrote his books called either or Fear and Trembling about making the choice. So Trump makes the right choices. He doesn't brag about being the smartest guy in the room, but he's making the world historical choices for us, thank God, and we're gonna have peace. Cause he's gonna, we gotta keep him safe. Cause he's the man. And so he's laid down the law. He's the leader in every room. He enters the donors. Sorry, you don't get your way. You're not looking out for in economics, what you call the general equilibrium, the welfare of everyone simultaneously. And that is uniquely Trump's job right now. And boy, I give him an A plus today. He's hitting it out of the park.
Steve Bannon
No, no, this is a day that will live in history. What he's done in the Middle East. We see the sign right there at the conference center where President trump, in about 45 minutes, I think we'll actually address or start to begin the ceremony itself. He's spending, I think, some one on one time with General El Sisi and I'm sure there's going to be a couple of three others that come and meet with him. But right now it's on the schedule for about 45 minutes. So that means these speeches and the more formal part of it will probably start during the Charlie Kirk show right afterwards. Post. I'm going to play again the Miriam Adelson clip because it's so stunning. But I got to ask you, you were with us on the morning coverage. What is most stunning to me of everything President Trump is doing here is the humility and the gravitas that he has to take an hour as tired as you have to be coming off a flight with all these big events today and the whole world focused on you about what you say. You know, they're going to parse every word to take over an hour with the families and not make it a media event. I mean, we've got some black and white Photographs, and I think there's some footage coming out now, but not having it live on TV as the families pass the microphone and their thinking of Trump was heartrending. Talk to me about the humility of President Trump on this day of days.
Jack Posobec
Well, thanks so much again for having me on, Steve. And look, we saw President Trump there taking the time with the hostages. And once again, you're seeing that empathetic side of President Trump really come to the forefront. You're seeing the fact that this is a man who and Steve, you and I were down at Mar a Lago, and we were at that event where President Trump came out and talked about the casualties in the Ukraine war he was talking about at the time. But you could see it in his face and you could read it in his eyes that this is a man who deeply, deeply cares about the wounds of war, who cares about the blood that's being spilled. And this is exactly the same man who would speak out against the global war on terror during the height of the Bush administration, one of the few people as a Republican to do so. And then, of course, became the first Republican to speak about this on the Republican stage back in 2015, 10 years ago now, 10 plus years. And so he's been the person to say, look, it's time to actually put down the swords, to bring people home, to bring sons back to their fathers, to bring daughters back to their mothers. And it's so rare. It's so rare in politics where you actually get to do something that is just objectively good and an absolute good. And that's what he's done today.
Steve Bannon
Jack, Dave Bratz has something, I think it was after you bounced this morning on the coverage that I thought was stunningly on point and a very significant point when we talk about narrative warfare in modern, in the 21st century, kind of Clausewitz is that kinetic war is narrative war by other means. Right. That do a play on Clausewitz. He said, today is going to be a day of clarity. Today is going to be a day of beginning of accountability, because two things, number one, you're going to hear starting today of the brutal conditions that the Hamas terrorists had for the, the hostages. And you're going to hear that in spades. But in addition, Gaza is starting to open up and the Western media has been kind of blocked from the most significant parts of the war itself are going to get down there. Kurt Mills called it. He thinks it's going to be one of the biggest crime scenes in world history. But you're already hearing reports out of it. And Kurt Mills said what's going to happen on both, on both the hostages and how they were treated and how the war in the Gaza was actually executed, that you're going to have a media cyclone effect, that this is going to really spin or they're going to have to see which way spins out of control and whose side spins out of control. Your thoughts on that? What Dave Brecht called the transparency of the moment.
Jack Posobec
Well, Steve, you're absolutely right. And it's possible that we do get more of this. And certainly we've seen social media really play a strong role in the forefront of the prosecution of this war in Gaza from the citizenry there, from citizen journalists, independent journalists going into Gaza. But we haven't seen that same coverage from the mainstream as well. And so show it all. Absolutely show it all. Get it all out there. And of course, this will be on the former leadership of Hamas. It'll be on the political leadership of Israel. It'll be on Bibi Netanyahu's coalition, which I know we've spoken about today, is fragile and he is facing elections next year. So of course that will be his remit to determine whether or not he is able to run again or stand again for the coalition. But Steve, you take it a step further too. And I'm just going to have to say the same thing I said here last week, that the one thing that just for me personally that I'm looking for, that I haven't heard a lot given to yet and I know there'll be time for it. But in this peace deal, whether we get the transitional technocratic government, whatever we see coming forward, I want to make sure that there are protections for the Christians who are on the ground here, that there are protections for the holy site, rebuilding of the holy sites, rebuilding of the churches. Full funding for this absolutely has to be at the forefront here because we've seen too many churches destroyed during the prosecution of this war and too many situations where Christians have been killed.
Steve Bannon
Let me be blunt. This is the beginning of a first of all, it's a massive defeat from Netanyahu and his side. You're having a two state solution. And this is what the afternoon is about, peace in the Middle East. You're going to have the Gulf Emirates finance it with their cash, Qatar and uae, but also the Saudis. You're going to have the Turks which have the most advanced army in the Muslim world. They're going to provide the security guarantee. They're going to coordinate the UAE and others And America may have some sort of coordinating thing from Doha at the beginning but supposed to transfer it all. So you're going to have Muslim and Arab troops with a foothold in Israel, in Gaza. Most importantly the 2 million are not. This plan that was inyou talked about earlier about the and Ben did about how this thing shifted so quickly in the middle of July there was open discussion about the removal of all 2 million Palestinians and they go live in the Sinai. Right. Or, or somehow they're going to go to Ethiopia. That's all off the table. So you're going to have a proto Palestinian state and a two state solution right there. Also part of the deal is no further development from Israel side in Judea Samaria, which you could argue is one of the biggest historical Israel. The only solution here. If you're going to have a two state solution, you have to have a three state solution. You have to have a Christian state. We can no longer just say take it through the Muslims and the Jews. It just can't work. If you want to really protect the Holy Land, the Christians are going to have to get their own stake in this. That is obvious as sure as the turning of the earth. And I think this is going to be a huge condition of the Christians in the United States, Evangelical and Catholics to say, well hang on for a second. We were against the two state solution for years but now that because of facts on the ground and how Netanyahu overplayed his hand with the Greater Israel Project and President Trump finally said no, we're America first, we're not Israel first. So that all cratered around Netanyahu who went to the UN what, two weeks ago, three weeks ago and said there would never be a Palestinian state ever as the people walked out. Well, guess what? This conference this afternoon is the creation of a Palestinian state.
Jack Posobec
War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Steve Bannon
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Ben Harnwell
No, no, no.
Steve Bannon
Your thoughts?
Ben Harnwell
No, no, no, no. The beady eyed cynicism is, is what, what you get after you've been working on the war for four years. Look, we're just at the moment getting used to the two state solution and you're trying to come up with this three state salute. Oh my word. Listen, I've said this on the, on the war room before. Okay folks, if you want to be decoupled from the Middle east, right, if you want to definitely put that stake through the heart of the military industrial complex, don't resurrect it. Don't resurrect the nation, the neocon nation building ideal in Christian terms, because you will never, ever, ever get out.
Steve Bannon
Hang on. But I'm never. Hang on.
Ben Harnwell
If you do that.
Steve Bannon
We're not gonna. We're not. But hang on. But Hang on. I'm not saying the United States government, in fact, I do not want the United States government to have any involvement here any more than they're going to have in the two state solution. But how do you guarantee, how do you guarantee, how do you guarantee the basic root of our religion where our Lord and Savior, as you remember Thomas More in that great speech he gave to parliament before they beheaded him, talked specifically about this. He had never given his thoughts on this, but he said about our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ when he walked the earth, particularly the three years of his, of his, of his teaching, right, when he was a teacher, formed really the church. How do you walk away and just leave it with. Because not in the room, not in the deal. I'm not saying the United States should be involved at all. But you have to have a Christian if you're going to have a, if you're going to have a Muslim state in Israel and you're going to have a Muslim state. This is a two state solution. Don't let America first crowd spin this any other way. They brought this on, which people had fought having a two state solution for decades and decades and decades. They brought this on because they backed Netanyahu and his overplay of this Greater Israel project, which was doomed to failure. If the United States ever woke up and said, hey, hang over a second. What's in America's interest? Not in Israel's interest. What's in Americans interests? Sir.
Ben Harnwell
Okay, Steve, listen. As sure as the turning of the earth, to use a very Bannonite expression, as sure as the turning of the earth, if you establish, if it is established. Let's use the passive tense. If it is established in the Middle East, a Christian state, like above and beyond Armenia, right, You, America, will be at a future point dragged in to underwrite its, its security and its defense. That is a thousand percent. Your military industrial complex is too powerful and too omnipresent for that not to happen. Okay, I want to respond, and I'll hand over now because I think Poso's got something to say. But before I do, right, I want to respond to something that you said in the break. You said, if we do this, folks, call it whatever you want, but don't call it the Kingdom of Israel. Steve, I, I couldn't disagree with you.
Steve Bannon
No, the king. No, the king. Hang on, hang on, hang on. The kingdom Jerusalem. I said the kingdom of Jesus. I know. Poso. Puso. Poso's already got his knights, his Knights Templar.
Jack Posobec
He's.
Unidentified Female Speaker
Hold on, hold on. Hold on.
Jack Posobec
First Night Templar. First Templar Knight, Eric Prince. Maybe, maybe.
Ben Harnwell
Look, look, look, this is my point, okay? If you want he has experience the horn world, buy in. If you want the har buying on this project, which you're never going to get anyway. But if you want the harm or buy in on the Christian state, you must call it the Kingdom of Jerusalem. And you've got to issue passports in gold embossed capitals on the front so that everybody knows what this is about. But you're still not going to get me to buy into this because I tell you this, America, if you go down this road and have a Christian state there, you are never ever getting out of the Middle east, ever.
Steve Bannon
But how do you get out? You can't get. You can't get out of. Look, I want out of the Middle east, but you can't get out of certain areas of Judea, Samaria and Israel because it's the birthplace of Christ, it's the birthplace of a religion. And you can't allow those historical endeavors to be turned over to the Muslims, which is, listen, in this two state solution, I'm saying it now, Israel as it exists will not be around in 20 years. That's how serious this is. These Arab nations are hitting it with cash flow. They're now getting into new technology. They're trying to be at the vanguard of artificial intelligence, they're trying to be at the vanguard of chip design, they're trying to be at the vanguard of crypto. I'm not saying it's all going to work out and of course they have a history and a reputation of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, but this is a very. What's happening today is quite different than anything else that's happened. Witkoff's a businessman, Jared's a businessman, President Trump's a businessman. When you talk to the Qataris and to uae, they're not politicians because those are not political entities, they are business people, they're finance people. And that's why I think it's different. Dave, Brett, help me out here. Brother Po. So we're two against one now. You're the deciding vote. What say you?
Dave Brat
No, it's one versus three. I'm the frozen chosen Protestant with three Catholics around me. But I'm going to cede ground to all you Catholics. And I said this earlier in the show and everybody thinks I'm always pie in the sky. In the 13th century, we had a nice rational conversation with Islam and Judaism and Christianity centered around Aristotle. You can use your man aquinas that would be fine for the Board of Peace. I haven't thought through the architecture of nation states in the last five minutes, so I'm not going to articulate that.
Steve Bannon
Right, right.
Jack Posobec
Hang on.
Steve Bannon
Right, Just what you're seeing as Dave talks is the President. Everybody wants a photo with him. So these are all the people coming from the 25 nations are having a minute to talk to him, et cetera. Go ahead and finish her. So you're going to see all the. Look at that around peace 20, 25. They're all going to come and have a photo op with President Trump because they want to show that off back home. Continue on with Aristotle.
Dave Brat
Yeah, well, that's the backbone of the Catholic tradition and the teachings. And the safest way to avert or avoid these globalist, Marxist leftist thugs is to go back to any book that was written at least 100 years ago. This would be 700 years ago. So we need to follow human reason. The papacy, the Catholic tradition, the just war theory has it all documented on paper. The current Pope doesn't seem to want to go that route, but you guys know better. The Protestants would be in full agreement on this kind of thing. And same with Judaism. Judaism had some of the greatest philosophers back in the 1300s as well. Maimonides is the, is the, is the person who comes to mind. And so we get the. All it takes is reverting to what's called human reason. You don't have to do religion.
Jack Posobec
Right.
Dave Brat
The Republic. This is why you need politicians like Trump that are older than, you know, 30 years old these days. But he's sitting around doing architecture, these things.
Steve Bannon
He's. Yeah, look at that right there. Everybody wants to get a photo with him. It's just incredible. As President Trump says, we're hot again. We're hot. By the way, I don't want to say this, but I think we got a possibility, Ben and Jack, of a convert here. You know, Brad keeps referring back to ancient, ancient, ancient theology. Right. I think we got a possibility. So we just got to work on him. Jack Posobec, your thoughts on this?
Jack Posobec
No, no, I'm working on it. But, you know, I hear the three in one. And, you know, first of all, the war room, you know, is not a democracy. I don't think that's ever, that's ever come up before, you know. Yeah. And then Catholics. Yeah, Catholics. That's, you know, democracy. That's a Protestant thing. You know, Catholics are. We're the, we're the altar and throne types and, and so, you know, a lot of you go to this part of the world and, you know, see a lot of lineup as President Trump, they are meeting with, with sheikhs and demirs and kings. There's, there's Erdogan. There's Erdogan there, there's meeting with, with the Caliph right there, the Turks. And now he's, now he's meeting with.
Steve Bannon
The Caliphate, the Ottoman Empire. So Lawrence of Arabia got the Arabs together. United the Arabs. So they British General Allenby. Yeah. No, I'm saying they could actually take down the Ottoman Empire and break the Ottoman Empires. I think the Ottoman Empire ruled Jerusalem for a thousand years. This is why Allenby, who was going to Damascus, and he stopped it. He stopped and freedom. Jerusalem en route. You're going to have Turkish troops. I want every. So when the Israel first crowd is today trying to spin this, just tell them, hey, what about Erdogan in. He's going to be the head security force. Let me play if we can play it. And by the way, we're skipping the last break because I want to stick to it with President Trump seeing all the leaders of the Middle east and throughout some of the leaders in Europe. Also Macron's there. Sir Kerr, can we go and play? I want to play for Jack Posobiek. The shot across the bow. Now, I will say, as the head of the Trump 2028 movement, this didn't make me feel great when he went after one of his biggest donors. Let's go ahead and play it.
Unidentified Female Speaker
But I actually asked. I'm going to get her in trouble with this. But I actually asked her once, I said, so, Miriam, I know you love Israel. What do you love more, the United States or Israel? She refused to answer. That means that might mean Israel. I must say.
Steve Bannon
Some nervous laughter there. Jack Posobec, your takeaway on that one.
Jack Posobec
Look, President Trump is his own man. There's no question here. And he obviously talks to everyone. He talks to everyone on all sides. He's close with many people who are very concerned about the safety and well being of Israel. Obviously, he himself has made it a key aspect of his presidency, both the first term and the second term. But at the end of the day, President Trump is and remains America first. He will always put America first and he will act in what he believes is America's interests right up until the line where he said, this is it. This is the line with which America is willing to support these operations and support the situation. And he said it himself. He said it himself, didn't he, when he was there in the well of the Knesset and said, you have won all that you can by force. Now is the time for peace and prosperity. So he is the one who draws the line that American interests have ended at this point. Now is the time to cut the deal, bring the hostages back and go with it. And via con Dios, go with God from there. And so as we were saying on the earlier show, Steve, if there were a situation where it looked as though further offensive operations were taking place, and I don't necessarily see that happening, but speaking hypothetically, that out of the IDF that it seems the United States would not be there to support them.
Steve Bannon
There's two things I want to point out here. Jack and Ben and Dave. The guy's been rolling on this thing since yesterday afternoon. And look at just even doing these meet and greets is an energy suck. Look at, look how, I mean, he's, this guy's like, he looks like a guy 30 years old. He's clearly jacked up for the moment. But just the ability to do everything he did today, from meeting with the apostas parents, you know, the families and listening to theirto their horrible stories they had for the two years thatand some of them obviously didn't make it back to the speech. And sitting through, quite frankly, the opposition leader, Bibi, the speaker of the House, I think they had an hour's worth of speeches. He just sat there and listened to the whole thing. The energy. He's now there. Look at the president stilland, hey, do you think when Bush was president or Obama was president that the there. Ben Harnwell is your favorite? Giorgio Maloney of Italy. They want some of that redevelopment business in Gaza. I don't even want to go there. I can't even go there. But everybody, she wants a photograph with him because everybody wants a photograph of him. When was the last time he had a president of the United States that everybody. You think they want it with Biden? You would be incorrect. You think they want it with Obama? You would be incorrect. You think they want it with Bush? No. In fact, they're saying they don't even want Tony Blair as the executive director because of his role in the Iraq war. We got to. So the speech is going to come after us during the Charlie Kirk show. Let's go around the horn. Ben, give me a couple of minutes on your closing thoughts here as the president of the United States takes photographs with all the participants that are coming to the peace conference today.
Ben Harnwell
Okay, my closing thought is this looking at the scenes right as President Trump meeting the various world leaders, how far back you need to go in America's history to find an American president who wasn't a person, who was magnified by his office. President Trump isn't magnified by the office of the presidency. He magnifies the office of the presidency. It is all looking at these scenes here. It is almost as if President Trump as a personality, as a figure, as what we said earlier in the Hegelian term, the world historical figure. It's almost as if he is too large for himself because of his personality for the, for the office of the presidency. And this is, this is, this is the, the epitome for me of the idea of public service. You go in and you make changes that you want to do with elected office. You don't go in to be magnified by the office. And I think that is a tribute to Donald Trump and he deserves it.
Steve Bannon
Ben Harnwell, social media so people can follow you throughout the day.
Ben Harnwell
Geta my social media platform of choice, Arnwell, my surname. Thanks, Steve. God bless.
Steve Bannon
And Ben is already committed to, although it's going to be late, he's put in a full day. He's going to join us on the six o' clock show. Dave Bratton, thank you for joining us in the morning. Ben, thank you for joining us. Dave, you've had some amazing observation, as Ben has and all of our, all of our crew here. Give me your closing thoughts on this.
Dave Brat
Well, the closer is just we owe this to one man, President Trump. And it's, we need to build the architecture like we've been talking around his ideas. So we've got give the next generations the same type of leadership and ability for peace. And, you know, I don't want to be a downer, but, you know, it'd be nice if Christian Europe would retain or regain their Christian lingo again. The United Kingdom, Germany, France, it's too much to ask for, right? These guys are on a Keynesian economic war footing still because their economies and their culture is so destructive right now. And so, you know, Trump gave us all hope today. Maybe we can, maybe we can make it happen.
Steve Bannon
There's the United Kingdom, by the way. They're being overrun with their own war with Islam. There's Starmer right there. Dave. Brad, what's your social media? You've been amazing. Thank you, brother.
Dave Brat
Yeah, yeah, just Brad, economic son. Get her in on X. Yep. Thanks, Steve.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.
Dave Brat
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
So, Jack Posobec, I want you to touch on this of what you've seen. You've been with us for the entire time. However, folks, as I said in my national conservative speech, the Middle east is a sideshow to the main event. And Israel, the situation Israel in Gaza is a sideshow to the sideshow. I hate to break it to you. The central issue we have is with the Chinese Communist Party. And if you don't think so, your life may dramatically change here in the next three or four weeks because she thinking they have leverage, not liking the way President Trump is rolling, put on a went to economic war with us. I mean, up in our grill, they've been at economic war with us at least from May of 2019. I actually argue decades beforehand. But they're putting restrictions on what we call the heavy rare earths that run the production lines in the United States of America. And this is as serious as it gets. This is something. This is the reason, folks, that gold blew through 4,100 bucks, okay? And you've got to go to Birch Gold to understand what XI is doing trying to destroy de dollarization and destroy the dollar as the prime reserve currency. Birchgold.com, promo code Bannon ended the dollar empire. Do that today. Jack Bosovic, I want you to balance your understanding of the Middle east with your brilliant and deep understanding of the Chinese Communist Party and where the real fight for the United States and for President Trump is going to come.
Jack Posobec
Well, Steve, that's exactly as I was explaining this earlier on the program. And by the way, you mentioned Xi Jinping and the People's Liberation Army Navy is actually holding an amphibious assault rehearsal right off of Taiwan as we speak right now. So you've got the command personnel coordinating these coastal assaults, the amphibious brigade crews. They're moving forward with their operations. And Steve, when I talk about Syria, when I talked about the backstop of these Turkish troops, Erdogan and the rest, they're all cutting deals with the Chinese Communist Party because they're looking to constitute what did Syria do in the last couple of years? They've now signed in completely with the Belt and Road Initiative. They are reconstituting the Silk Road, Aleppo, Palmyra. What put those cities on the map, their role in the trade between Rome and China in the first place. That's why those areas of Syria matter so much. What is China doing now? They want the raw minerals, they want the oil, they want the trade going all the way through the new Silk Road. And they're investing heavily, heavily in those deepwater ports in the eastern Med. They're investing heavily in Tardis and a lot of Kia running right upside the Russians there. So don't think for a second that China isn't all over what's happening in the East Med, not to mention all over the Caribbean, Latin America, South America as well, up to and including the Gulf of America. So President Trump obviously understands this as well, and he is reasserting the United States diplomatically and economically on the world stage. Steve, we need it to happen, and it' sand thank God that President Trump has done this. Now the United States of America is back and Beijing is watching.
Steve Bannon
Jack, give me a minute or two. What you're seeing right here is extraordinary. Every country that's there, all the 25 countries, each one's coming up almost as a supplicant, just to get a picture with him. But the warmth, the handshake, they're giving him little tidbits, which I'm sure he's talked to them over the phone. He's been communication with EC's leaders. It's extraordinary. You haven't anybody. You think they would do that with Obama or Biden or Bush. It's not about political party. They want to be in the. They want to be around Trump. They want to be in the aura of Trump, as Trump says. President Trump says the country's hot. That the Arab, the king of Saudi Arabia, told him, hey, you're hot right there. You're seeing it. You can'tyou can'tyou can't fake this, right? You've seen these bilats. We've already saw some of the ways President Trump was treated in his first term. Look at this.
Jack Posobec
He has reestablished. He has reestablished his role as the leader of the free world. You are now looking at the leader of the free world as he exercises that freedom and that sovereignty across, not just past the United States, its borders, but also the strength of that U.S. economy, the strength of the U.S. writ large. Now, that being said, we do need to focus on the United States. But you look at this and it has the ability of having the spillover effects of bringing that economic prosperity back.
Steve Bannon
To the U.S. but ever since, ever since Reagan left, Bush, old man Bush, Bill Clinton, little Bush, Obama, Biden. Are you kidding me? That was just a phrase used by these crackpots on msnbc, the Atlanta Council. Oh, leader of the free world. They weren't leaders. Nobody wanted to be around them. They all want to be around this guy. You know why? They understand. He makes things happen and he makes tough things happen, hard things. This was inconceivable. This was inconceivable at the UN When Netanyahu gave that speech. Jack Posobuk, we're going to toss it, as we've done for the last four years, to the Charlie Kirk Show. You're back up at 2. What are you go for your social media, Right.
Jack Posobec
We'll be back up at 2 and just have to say how remarkable this is that President Trump is going to be turning around and coming right back for Charlie's Medal of Freedom ceremony tomorrow on what would have been Charlie's 32nd birthday. And we'll, we'll be doing the shows from the White House tomorrow in, in commemoration of this.
Steve Bannon
Wow. Wow. The Charlie Kirk Show. Human events. Human events. Back to back from the White House. Yes, I might add, as we get ready, we'll be back at five o'clock today. President Trump is doing this as a day trip. Embrace that. Okay. When you feel tired or hey, I can't do it anymore, this is too much for me. This is a day trip, a world historical figure. You had General Washington, you had Lincoln, and you got Trump for all his imperfections. Okay. And all the things that a lot of us don't like about what's going on. This is one of the greatest leaders this country has ever produced. And the living example is right there with these other leaders. Well, Charlie Kirk is next. Want to thank Real America's Voice. Amazing coverage, the most sophisticated coverage out there of this day. We're going to be back at five to wrap it all up in the war room.
Ben Harnwell
This is an I Heart podcast.
Date: October 13, 2025
Podcast: Real America’s Voice – War Room
Host: Steve Bannon, with Jack Posobec, Ben Harnwell, Dave Brat
Main Theme:
Historic Middle East Peace Conference & Trump’s Global Leadership
This episode centers on the transformational peace conference in Egypt, where President Trump’s leadership is catalyzing a landmark deal in the Middle East. The hosts and panel discuss the emergence of a two-state solution between Israel and Palestine, the evolving roles of international stakeholders, the ideological and religious implications for Christians, and what this means for the United States’ position in global affairs. The conversation also touches on narrative warfare, Christian heritage in the Holy Land, and the looming challenge posed by the Chinese Communist Party.
[00:00–00:55]
Quote:
“I actually asked her once… I said, so, Miriam, I know you love Israel. What do you love more, the United States or Israel? She refused to answer. That might mean Israel, I must say.”
– Unidentified Female Speaker [00:35]
[00:56–03:45]
Quote:
“We don’t have peace because of the Middle East or because of Israel...we have peace because of one man, and it’s President Trump.”
– Dave Brat [01:42]
[03:45–06:33]
Quote:
“It’s so rare in politics where you actually get to do something that is just objectively good and an absolute good. And that’s what he’s done today.”
– Jack Posobec [06:20]
[06:34–09:39]
Quote:
“Show it all. Absolutely show it all. Get it all out there...there are protections for the Christians who are on the ground here...rebuilding of the churches. Full funding for this absolutely has to be at the forefront.”
– Jack Posobec [08:02]
[09:40–16:34]
Quote:
“If you’re going to have a two-state solution, you have to have a three-state solution. You have to have a Christian state. We can no longer just say take it through the Muslims and the Jews. It just can’t work.”
– Steve Bannon [11:20]
Counterpoint:
“You will never, ever, ever get out [of the Middle East]. If you go down this road and have a Christian state there, you are never ever getting out of the Middle East, ever.”
– Ben Harnwell [18:03]
[19:45–21:47]
Quote:
“All it takes is reverting to what’s called human reason. You don’t have to do religion.”
– Dave Brat [21:08]
[22:18–23:30]
[27:33–28:36]
Quote:
“President Trump isn’t magnified by the office of the presidency. He magnifies the office of the presidency...as a world historical figure.”
– Ben Harnwell [27:33]
[29:10–34:59]
Quote:
“This is the reason, folks, that gold blew through 4,100 bucks, okay?… Xi is trying to destroy de-dollarization and destroy the dollar as the prime reserve currency.”
– Steve Bannon [30:38]
Quote:
“Don’t think for a second that China isn’t all over what’s happening in the East Med…they are reconstituting the Silk Road, Aleppo, Palmyra…It’s why those areas of Syria matter so much.”
– Jack Posobec [32:12]
[34:22–36:02]
Quote:
“He has reestablished his role as the leader of the free world…But you look at this and it has the ability of having the spillover effects of bringing that economic prosperity back.”
– Jack Posobec [34:22]
Quote:
“You had General Washington, you had Lincoln, and you got Trump for all his imperfections…This is one of the greatest leaders this country has ever produced.”
– Steve Bannon [36:32]
“[Trump] makes the right choices…he’s making the world-historical choices for us, thank God, and we’re gonna have peace.”
– Dave Brat [02:33]
“You have to have a Christian state. We can no longer just say take it through the Muslims and the Jews. It just can’t work.”
– Steve Bannon [11:20]
“Show it all. Absolutely show it all. Get it all out there…there are protections for the Christians who are on the ground here…”
– Jack Posobec [08:02]
“President Trump isn’t magnified by the office of the presidency. He magnifies the office of the presidency.”
– Ben Harnwell [27:33]
This episode provides an in-the-moment chronicle of a monumental diplomatic shift, with the hosts crediting President Trump’s singular leadership style and framing the new Middle East arrangement as “America first” realism. Spirited debate over the religious future of the Holy Land reveals deep ideological divides within the conservative movement. The program’s signature blend of philosophical analysis, realpolitik, and populist rhetoric is on full display—underscored by reminders that, while the Middle East is central, the competition with China remains the "main event" for America’s future.
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