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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to get a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big L Maga media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen k. Band. Tuesday 14 October Year Overlord 2025 Milei will be at the White House at 1pm to discuss the bailout, let's call it what it is, a currency bailout. Also, additionally, I think unwinding his deals that Argentina had with the CCP in a strategic discussion about hemispheric defense. Charlie Kirk show is going to be live at noon from the White House. Jack Posobic at 2:00 CL in the white House. They may obviously have to do some juggling because there will be a bilat in the middle of that. Those guys will figure it out. The awarding of the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Erica Kirk and the family will for Charlie will take place at 4pm from the White House. And of course we're going to cover that wall to wall on rural America's voice, including the big honk of the five o' clock show. Talk to people. I want to go back. So we're in the middle of it right now and President Trump, who did a magnificent job yesterday, is now pivoting back, I think, to what we call Captain Fennell calls the main thing. And it should, as we've talked to you about Chinese Communist Party national security and unrestricted war doctrine, or just the way they fight. When they see an opponent or an enemy that is preoccupied with something, they have a tendency to strike at that moment. This has happened throughout their history, particularly I think during the Cuban missile crisis. This is when they initiate the war with India, which was much bigger and much bloodier than people in the west actually understand the Chinese Communist Party. What they did the other day is an act of war, just is it's an act of war, economic war. But as you know, in modern warfare, right. As taught to us by a couple of Chinese Colonels in the book, unrestricted warfare, of which they came to the conclusion they were not prepared for and could not fight the foreign devils in a kind of classic, let's bring it up alongside and shoot, you know, have a gunfight that you have to do. Economic war, psychological war, political warfare, every aspect of it. And you've seen they've been very successful because they have infiltrated the institutions of the United States of America, including, and most particularly our education system, of which we are educating our enemies in the very technologies that are going to dominate the 21st century. As we said, made in China, 2025, which they essentially initiated I think, in 2015 or in the years around there, where they put out that by 2025 they're going to dominate 10 industries that will drive the 21st century. The top five they put out there were artificial intelligence and artificial general intelligence, robotics and regenerative robotics, quantum computing, advanced chip design, and, oh, let's throw in for another one, CRISPR and biotechnology. Well, as you know, those five combined and the convergence of those get you to what we call the singularity. It's not simply artificial intelligence. I think a lot of people misconstrue that. It's the convergence of all those that get you to a point that will be the most significant point in history since Homo sapiens, I.e. homo sapien 1.5 or 2.0, you name it. But on this side of that line, Homo sapiens, on the other side are something quite different. This is why Xi and Putin caught in a hot mic moment. And I am cynical enough to think there are no hot mic moments coming out of the CCP because your head would be on a pike. They wanted that leak that they're talking about the technology they have available today to live past 100 and be productive to 125 years old. And if you don't think the leaders of the world, first off, you should understand. Isn't it interesting how a lot of these moguls and Redford, when they actually leave this vale of tears, it's, I don't know, in their 90s, and they're still productive. That's kind of phase one, because behind the scenes, they're all getting juiced up and jacked up. Well, they just see that as an opening salvo to 100, 125, and then immortality. That is the central thing that oligarchs are working for because they're all godless atheists. Right? They don't believe in eternal life with our Lord and savior, Jesus Christ. Or God. They understand that they're going to look over the pit of hell. And so why not delay that? How about let's delay it forever? This is the mentality of the Chinese Communist Party as an institution. It openly and brags about it. It's killed, I don't know, a quarter of a bane of its own people. Between the great leaps forward, the famines, all the disaster, the Cultural Revolution, I'm not even throwing in, I'm not even throwing in torture, concentration camps. I'm not even counting the 450 million which is pretty well documented. Forced abortions, principally of young Chinese, little Chinese babies, female babies, I think 80% of them. So this is a brutal dictatorship and they're moving now on the United States of America. Now clearly President Trump, Scott Besant now is in the Financial Times. He's quoted, hey, they're in a depression because of the trade war. We've got really the trying to balance things and bring jobs back to the United States. They're in a depression and they're trying to drag everybody down with it. Well, that may be a fact. I don't know that for a fact. That may be a fact, but it's also kind of so what. The central thing we've had to do, I've preached this gospel on this show for years, is what we have to decouple from that brutal regime. It's not just the moral thing to do for those that maybe are not into that. Let's just say it's the practical thing to do. And remember, they've been on this program since. They've been on this program of decoupling since May of 2019. Why do I pick that date? Because after two years of hard negotiation, Bob Lighthizer and Peter Navarro had a deal that fully integrated them into the really the world economy and took away the seven original sins, as Navarro calls it, of the Chinese Communist Party economy, including dumping and state owned industries. The ability to suppress prices everywhere, suppress labor everywhere. It was a magnificent thing, two years in the making. And after they had their first belt and Road initiative meeting, I think it was in the Shanghai with Putin, they decided, Wan Shishan and Xi decided, hey you know what, maybe we don't want to integrate with the foreign devils. Maybe we got a good enough thing here on the Eurasian landmass and let's do this first and screw them. And they tore it up and spit in our face. They tore it up and spit in our face and declared a people's war against the United States of America and said they were going to decouple. And for any guys, any of those tech entrepreneurs ahead, they're going to put them in jail. That the CCP would run the whole deal. Yesterday, the central argument of hemispheric defense pivots around the United States Navy and also a rethinking of the importance or the central importance of the Eurasian landmass. And that maybe the world has a different countervailing geostrategic point. And we argue that that is what it has been since the great generation, the late 19th century, thought this thing through and said, hey, Manifest Destiny actually does not end in California, in Oregon and Washington, where the Oregon Trail ends and where the gold rush, the California gold rush. That's not the end of this, of America. America is a Pacific pack power. And in fact, American territory. American territory is going to extend into the Pacific until at least the third, second island chain. And that the strategic pivot for the United States of America will be the Central Pacific. Oh, and did we ever see that play out? Yeah, in the 1930s and then after Pearl Harbor, World War II in the Pacific was all about the fighting about that issue. Japan got the joke their economic co prosperity sphere, which really centered on taking over mainland China, but also all of East Asia, the islands, to drive the Brits out and to drive the Americans out. And what was their key focus? The Central Pacific. And where did they start that war against the United States when they thought they had the opportunity to do it? And the leverage to do it was at Pearl harbor in December of 1941. That's where it culminated. And we had a couple of three very dark. You think Trump had some bad months in 2021 when Biden stepped in and the whole apparatus turned against him. The years in the wilderness, that really started with those darkest days. And the first were the. The United States had some pretty dark days in 1942. After that happened, we lost a succession of battles until we pulled one off at Midway. And that was just the beginning of the turning of the tide. But Cleo Pascal and Cleo, yesterday you were with Admiral Masso and the team, I think, in Philadelphia to commemorate the 250th birthday of the, of the United States Navy. We had Philip Patrick on yesterday. Talk about the, the kind of freebooters up in Marblehead that really put the guns on the little ship. And let's, let's go ahead and shoot some. Let's go ahead and get in a gunfight somewhere. But it's really your theory. You've been working this and reminding people about American territory and American soil. Now that today, and today's a perfect example, we have Milei coming. And the only reason we're bailing that guy out, trust me, not because the Cato Institute loves him and he's some kind of coke libertarian nut, which I think he is, but because Argentina is central to the hemispheric defense. Then you've got Zelensky coming next week for us to go on offense with him as a partner against the Russians in the bloodlands. And over that, over all of that, is the Chinese Communist Party now at direct economic warfare with the United States. And they're not hiding. They're going right to the leverage point, which is, wait for it, rare earths and particularly heavy rare earths. So talk to me. Real clear defense, which is one of the best sites out there, new sites out there that honored us by pulling part of our coverage from Navy 250, particularly where you were talking about this new strategic realignment, how we have to think about it and how central the central Pacific is as the new pivot of history, you've kind of reversed Mackinder, and you did it a way that Mahan didn't even think of. So walk us through that, ma'.
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Am. It was great to see that coverage. It was even more wonderful to see that parade. It was over two and a half hours of celebration of Navy and Marine accomplishments and pride and especially to see the little kids. There was one of the floats had young Marines recreating the raising of the flag at Iwo Jima. Just really, just touching and exciting. And as you know, Admiral Masso is working on building a proper museum to the Navy. Right now. There isn't really a national one that's easily accessible. So it was Navy all the way, and Marines were there. Of course, they came in at the end doing the silent drill and stealing the show. It was great. And it reminded me what is what many people think of as a continental power. This detached and isolated land that it's not very detached and it's certainly not very isolated and vulnerable point is definitely the Pacific. And it has been since the Navy sent out this, the Great exploring expedition in 1838, to track, make its own navigational maps, to track trade routes, and basically to say, better start thinking about the Pacific. What I particularly liked about that article was.
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Hang on one second. I'm going to give you full Runway. We're going to take a short commercial. I'm going to give you full Runway in the next segment. We stand on the shoulders of giants in the 19th century, right? In the 19th century, they were already thinking this through downrange. That's what America's leaders have always done. They've thought downrange about what's best for the country and what's best for the citizens as we develop. This is why. What happens, I don't know, over the next six months or so, as I said, when you get past Trump's 200th day, the convergence of the invasion, that the invaders must be repelled. Plus, we've got to figure out some way President Trump has to figure out some way to basically stop stop the kinetic part of the Third World War, which is already far bloodier than the Second World War. And on top of all that hemispheric defense, we have to wait for it, figure out a way to defeat and destroy the Chinese Communist Party. Lang assisting them. These central issues facing us. Short commercial break Back in the moment.
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One gold is over $4,100 an ounce. We're not here to talk about the price of gold. A lot of you say, hey, did I miss out when Ben and you started doing this? Gold was, I don't know, 1100 bucks. Eleven. Eleven hundred dollars an ounce. Did we miss it? There's only one person that can answer that, and it ain't Steve Bannon. And it's not Philip Patrick or Birch Gould, by the way. It was Patrick K. O' Donnell that was with us on his great book about the Marble men, guys from Marblehead, just incredible. John Glover and his team, the Indispensables. If you get those two books, Washington's Immortals and the Indispensables. Two sides. One about a Maryland regiment and the other about really the beginning of the Navy and what they did in the struggles of the revolution. Incredible books. Patrick K. O', Donnell, Philip Patrick can't answer it either. Only you can answer it. This is why we give you the tools to think it through. And you say, well, hey, Bannon, I'm no financial expert. How am I supposed to do that? You've done a lot, you know, step up. You're not here to be coddled, you're here to be pushed. Because you've already done the impossible. You don't think you've done the impossible. Read this book, Under Siege. It goes back into the details, and you'll remember the precinct strategy, everything that you folks did to make sure that President Trump returned to office and had a successful run this time, more than a successful run. Like I said, even with his imperfections and even maybe some of the policies you're not crazy about, or some of the things you think he's forgetting, if we didn't have Trump, we wouldn't have a country. That's why I say he's in the same level as Lincoln and General Washington, because he is. This is the age of Trump. This is the age of Trump. And if you didn't have a Trump, we'd be looking into the abyss. Think it's bad. Think of how much go back in those days with Biden, the insanity culturally, the insanity on national security, that's what they wanted. Ann is still raising its ugly head. Look what's happening in New York City. So don't think it's over by a long shot. In fact, in many respects, even though President Trump's moving heaven and earth, it's so almost overwhelming that you kind of someday say, how? How are we going to get through this? Well, the one way you're going to get through it is never quit. If we don't quit, we'll win. If you quit, I guarantee you we won't win. That's central, and that's why you're the most important part of this entire endeavor. You had President Trump's back in those years in the wilderness, and you drove, drove, drove the victory in 2024. Also, you got Jim Rickards, one of the best geopolitical thinkers, if you like that type of thing. National security, geopolitics, capital markets. Rickardswarroom.com, special landing page. Go check it out. Strategic Intelligence is his newsletter, and it has this construct of predictive analytics. I think you might dig that if you like the War Room. He's one of our big contributors here, and he also throws in a free book about fiat currency and artificial intelligence. Can anything be more timely? So go check it out today@rickardswarroom.com Cleo, continue on, ma'.
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Am. So one of the things that I really liked about this, the Real Clear Defense article about the coverage was it referred to you at the beginning. It said it was hosted by the program, and you contributed your own expertise on naval warfare in history. And I think that that's been undervalued. This is not political. This is just if you have some expertise and knowledge about the Navy and about where the US has been and where it's going, you know what the Central Pacific. And there have been periods when the leadership in the past did such a good job, and I would argue we're in that period now, that it got overlooked. 100,000Americans died getting across the Pacific during World War II. And we were very honored at the Navy dinner last night to have somebody who had fought at Okinawa at the dinner, and he, a man from Boston, and he talked about the psychological warfare involved, how the Japanese were buzzing the ships just out of range constantly. And getting a sense of the emotion of what it must have been like to be in that fight day after day, month after month, year after year, is really, it's. Can I say, awe inspiring. I think you've said these are giants, and they certainly were. And they bought us peace in the Pacific. That was so well crafted by those, again, many, many naval people who went into government. And we had every single US President from 1961 to 1981 had served in the Navy in the Pacific at some point. Of course, you know, Johnson's. There's a little bit of question over how much he served, but they were there, they saw what it was like, and they crafted agreements like the Compacts of free association with Palau, Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia that were so elegant that they kept the peace. But the Chinese, as you've stated, through unrestricted warfare, are now on the ground actively trying to undermine it. And you can see the sort of economic warfare that you're describing with the US it is in advanced stages in the parts of the US that the Chinese are most worried about, which are the Americans living on American territory in Guam and the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands. These are parts of America. Guam became part of the US during the Spanish American War in 1898. The people of the Commonwealth and Northern Mariana Islands, this is Saipan and Tinian, voted to join the US and became the newest part of the United States in 1986. And they voted to join because they believed in the US they had been saved, many of them personally, by members of the US Military. And they believed that being part of the US could be safe and by the Way, this isn't widely known, but those countries, Palau, Federal States, Micronesia, Marshall Islands, were offered to join the United States. They could have. The United States could have been a whole part of the Central Pacific. It could have extended from Hawaii to the Philippines. But the people voted through referenda to be independent countries and to sign these compacts of free association with the U.S. but that's why the people of these three countries can live and work freely in the U.S. they serve in the U.S. military. They have this very, very unique agreement that the US has not offer to anybody else. Because there was an acknowledgement by people like John F. Kennedy, George Bush Sr. People who had had friends die in the Pacific, that they didn't want this to happen again. Because we knew that if a hostile foreign power controls the center of the Pacific, the US Isn't safe.
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They had fought. Yeah, they had fought in the Pacific. I mean, Kennedy fought in the PT boat, fought in the Pacific. And Bush's was a. I think, was a fighter pilot and was shot down in the Pacific. They knew the value, by the way. Just go back over 50.
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Over 50 combat flights.
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Flights. Combat. Combat sorties. If you go to the. When you talk about. Because at the beginning of World War II, after the attack in Pearl harbor, remember, we didn't declare war in Germany. In fact, on the afternoon of December 8, when Roosevelt went to Capitol Hill, we very specifically didn't. We declared war in Japan. He said a state of war exists. And so we did move to declare war. The Nazis, Hitler declared war on us, I think, three days later because of a secret compact they had with the Japanese. You might say two of the biggest strategic blunders in world history were Hitler turning on the Soviet Union and Operation Barbarossa in June of 1941 and then six months later declaring war against the United States. So he decided to take on, you know, not Britain, not France, not China, but he take on the United States and Russia. Bad decision. But the entire focus obviously early on was the land war in Germany. Now, a lot of reasons for that, but they knew we had to make progress in driving the Japanese at least back to the mainland and somehow get islands that we could start bombing the heartland of the industrial part of Japan, just like the central far. This is why I talk about 12 o' clock high. And the 8th Air Force was to bomb Nazi Germany's industrial capability. Those individuals, strategically, they knew we had to go back across the Pacific, which kind of was ours, but was lost quickly in the days around December 7th. And they knew There was going to take a couple of hundred thousand men to die to go do that. And there's all kind of controversy. Could we done it by the air? Did we have to do these, did we have to do Normandies everywhere that can be questioned but they knew to get back across essentially and reclaim American territory that to actually position ourselves to defeat Japan, it would cost a couple of hundred thousand lives. That's how important those islands are. That's what we've lost. I think your coverage, Cleo, has been magnificent because it's still central. And this is folks, if you're part of the isolationist wing and part of the wing that says, hey, I just want to come home America, well then fine, I don't totally agree with that. We have to be, we have to be engaged in other parts of the world, although we have to focus on hemispheric defense. You want to focus on hemispheric defense? The central Pacific is central to hemispheric defense, is it not Cleo?
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It is and I would implore. Impeach. I don't know how to, I don't know how to say it. Remember that there are Americans on the other side of the Pacific. When you talk about the homeland, I mean I think that, you know, this map I have behind me that seems to show America is the maps that you had on your walls of the schoolrooms growing up would have pieces of America in little boxes off on the corner. But there are Americans who live an eight hour flight west of Hawaii and a four hour flight east of Taiwan. These are, are they any less American than any other Americans? I mean I would argue definitely not. I mean they know that they're on the front line and, and just, you know, this idea of decoupling, I think.
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Cleo, hang on, hang on one second. We're going to take a short commercial break. Ben Harnwell from Rome and Cleo Pascal next. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Make sure, by the way, if you're lucky enough to own a home, 80% of your net worth. Is there gold by the way, I'm told by one of the engine rooms, 4150. It's not the daily price movement of gold, it's just that sending a signal folks that maybe things are not right. Not just geopolitically, but maybe a couple other questions out there, but you got a home if you're lucky enough to have one. If you're under 35, you probably don't have one. But if you've got one, make sure you don't want anybody messing with that title to take out like a second mortgage on your home where they get the cash and you have to pay it off. Think of the nightmare that would be. So don't turn the one entity where you have every dream you had into a nightmare. Hometitlelock.com, promo code. Steve, go talk to Natalie Dominguez and the team today. Also, if we work it all out, I'm not sure we can. We're trying to, but we're going to try to spend some more time with the Patriot Mobile people down in Texas. So much going on in Texas, a lot going on in redistricting. I am going to get Degrasse either up this afternoon with us or tomorrow morning because that fight is heating up nonstop all over the country from Kansas to Kentucky to Indiana. And plus, I think we got unfinished business in Texas. Anyway. Patriot Mobile 972 Patriot Talk to an American citizen that's in the call center in the United States of America. Talk to him. It's not just stop giving your money to people that hate you. That would be the mobile services companies, but to a company that backs your values and kind of backs your play. Go check it out today. 972 Patriot get free hookup. The first free first month free by throwing in War room or Bannon. We get back to Pascal in a minute, particularly her maps and charts, which are absolutely essential. I'm gonna get back Ben Harnwell in here. And I'm just told by our own Brian Glenn at the White House that they've shifted the bilat from the Oval to a no press meeting in the Cabinet Room. Now, I happen to think that that might have something to do with there's a lot of questions about this entire thing, questions that should be answered. But the president's going to meet with Melaye and this is a big deal. He's also got another one on Friday. Ben Harnwell leads me to think of you, your favorite guy, Zelensky. And now we're getting down to the main events. Hemispheric defense driving the invaders out of our country. The wars on the Eurasian landmass, one that's already the Bloodlands is one of the bloodiest conflicts around in a couple of years. I GUESS we're in three years now over, I guess 2.5 to 2.8 million, maybe 3 million according to President Trump's calculation, on both sides dead and wounded. And if you think Gaza looks bad, there's places in Ukraine that look equally as bad. Media doesn't want to show it much anymore because Ukrainians are not winning. But to propel this thing forward, Zelensky's come up with a concept that he needs serious offensive weapons. When I say serious offensive weapons, the same missiles fired from Navy submarines that did, I believe, more damage to the Iranian nuclear project, which I think is totally and completely phony as and we know it's a bald faced lie that they could launch in two weeks. That's a lie because the war cabinet in Israel leaked to the Times of Israel the actual minutes of the cabinet meeting where they said, wait for it, it's two years. And Tel Aviv Levin, and Tel Aviv Levin's running around now because they're so shocked about their defeat that they got to spin it. He's running around. It was so central. It wasn't central, bro. Stopping, stopping the regime change in Iran was central. Oh, by the way, did you notice, Tel Aviv Levin, that the Iranians got invited to the meeting yesterday with President Trump and they turned it down. Unlike Israel, who got invited and when Erdogan said, I'm not going, I'm turning my plane around, all of a sudden Netanyahu had to go to the religious observance of the holidays, the high holy days. That starts today. Ben Harnwell, there's danger lurking everywhere for us. The Chinese Communist Party has shut down heavy rare earths. They've initiated a major, major, major economic war with the United States. And they ain't backing off as of right now. But in the bloodlands, Zelenskyy's coming and he's asking for the same Tomahawk missiles that took down the Iranian nuclear facility because he wants some of that. He wants to be able to launch, I don't know, 500 to 1,000 miles into the heart of Russia. And I believe that would put Moscow within his reach. And you got to say, for a guy that's getting pounded every day in Kiev by missiles, aircraft, drones, is it that big an ask, sir?
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I think the range is about one and a half thousand miles. Easily, easily putting Moscow within reach. Well, Steve, like the rest of the war room posse and our beloved RAV audience, I had thought that the evil Oompa Loompa was going to be exercised from the White House following President Trump's inauguration in January of this year. And sadly, that has not proven to be the case. He's going to make his third visit this Friday, as you say. And if you thought, if you had something to say about President Trump coughing up $20 billion worth in credit in sort of credit swaps to bail out the Argentinian peso folks. Stop praying. A novena now for Friday. Even President Trump himself says that granting President Zelensky these Tomahawks would be an escalation in aggression. I quote that directly. That's not the Kremlin putting out that line. They're obviously putting out their line themselves. But that's President Trump himself recognizing that this would be an escalation in aggression. And indeed it would be what he said. The official position, Stephen, I happen to think that President Trump is actually buying for paying for time here. President Trump's position is he's asked Zelensky for more information. A list of the targets inside Russia that Zelensky would hit with the US Provided Tomahawks so that he will then decide what he wants to do. Doesn't that hold, I think he claims a bit of time.
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Stop, stop, stop. Doesn't that scare the hell. Doesn't that scare the hell of you right there? Give me the target. Give me the target list and we'll see if we can do target acquisition. I mean, doesn't that. Now, listen, I understand President Trump, this is a major negotiating ploy of his. As Kurt Mill said yesterday, the empathetic side of President Trump has not appreciated, except I think, by people that know him well. And this was President Trump was so outraged at the hostages and what happened on October 7th and what's happened to the hostages, plus what he had seen in Gaza. It was President Trump, I may duly note to the Tel Aviv Levin crowd. It was President Trump yesterday that did two things I thought were shocking. Number one, he used the number 60,000 of casualties or dead in Gaza that came from the President of the United States. 60,000, which I know has been disputed a lot, but the president said it. Plus he called out Miriam Adelson as being Israel first. I mean, in front of the whole Knesset in the world, which was pretty shocking. And trust me, as the, as the head of the Trump 28 movement, that didn't make me feel great in one regard. You know, you got to question, hey, is this guy all in? If the biggest money source is going to insult right there. But is Trump using this as a negotiating ploy or do you think this actually becomes, when you have meetings and you do this, if Putin still just digs in, that all of a sudden you've got an unfortunate reality that we are now, although we're clearly on the offensive side, out of V spot and other things we're doing, providing weapons. This is so brazen that we really get sucked into this. And I think Putin's not been shy about saying, hey, if you do this, then Poland and these guys really got to start thinking about Article 5 because we're coming.
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Well, you know, you're absolutely right. The Kremlin did put out a very, I have to say, I think the Kremlin, I tried to be impartial when talking about Ukraine, Steve, and I tried to see this from both sides. I have to compliment the Russians on what I think a lot of the time in terms of their official response to these things. Is it showing incredible restraint? They did make a point which I find it difficult to argue with, saying, look, if you give the, these Tomahawks to, to Ukraine, we're not going to know whether they're armed with nuclear warheads or not. And just think about that. How would you like, how do you think we're going to respond? How would you like us to respond? And that was, I think, a very good, it wasn't, you know, they're not trying, the Russians aren't trying to, to escalate this situation. But it was a very straightforward question. And I hope that the guys in the Pentagon are going to prepare a serious set of responses for when, when.
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You say that, hang on. When you say they're not going to escalate, when you say that, when you say they're not going to escalate, the counter argument for the people that are pushing, and they're still trying to push a huge weapons package paid for by American taxpayers through the Senate. The Russians continue to relentlessly unload on now, not just the front line, but unload on Kyiv every couple of days, don't they? I mean, some of these assaults, the drone assaults are pretty horrific. So the Russians aren't dialing it down at all. I mean, they don't, it doesn't feel like they're trying to accommodate President Trump at all when he seems to be open to a lot of different alternatives, particularly coming out of Alaska, how you put this thing to bed. They don't seem to Trump, I think, in a lot of regards, sometimes meet me halfway. They're not, they're not coming halfway, are they?
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Sir, let me clarify when I say that the, their responses, their, their, their position, their press release responses to US Escalation, the Russian responses aren't escalatory, their restraint in terms of their, you know, they're not doing a verbal or a rhetorical escalation. That is what I mean to say in terms of what's going on, on the ground in, in Ukraine, I think over the last six months, they've been absolutely pummeling with drone attacks. Ukraine, that's not backing down. But I think that the Russians, I think, are trying to give themselves the room to maneuver to decide what they're going to do at a future stage on their own terms. What they don't want to do is provoke America or President Trump into push him into a corner where he feels he has to act. And, Steve, this is exactly. Look, I know we've got a break coming up. This is exactly the situation that we've been. We were warning out before the inauguration. We said that what we really did not want to happen is where President Trump ties his credibility in one way and his personal authority into a Ukrainian success on the battlefield. And that's exactly where we are now. What President Trump is talking about in giving these Tomahawks to Ukraine is massively escalatory, beyond anything Joe Biden ever did, even in his most senile moments.
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B
I'm going to let you punch, but I want to ask one question. Do you see us going down a path to actually become an active combatant on the Ukrainian and NATO and European side against the Russians with all the facts you have about this right now?
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C
I think if. Yeah, if. Yes, yes. If President Trump supply supplies these Tomahawks to Ukraine, we're no longer on.
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B
No, no, no, no. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. Hang on, hang on, hang on. I'm not saying that if we supply the Tomahawks. That' syou're so far up the escalatory ladder that you're going to be. They're going to consider you a combatant as you, as we would consider the Russians. They provided Tomahawks or something, you know, to Cuba to hit the United States or Mexico to hit the United States. You've got a minute. Do you think as you sit here today that we're heading down the path of becoming an active combatant that would include supplying Tomahawk missiles to the Ukrainians with a target package that we approve, that will be interior to Russia? Do you think we're heading down the path to become an active combatant in this war?
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C
That's where the momentum is going. That's where the inertia is going. But, you know, let's wait till Friday it is. What I mean to say is this. My answer is this. It is still within President Trump's ability to stop that from happening. It depends whether he's going to impose his will on Friday or let Zelensky impose his will on President trumpeter Getter Harnwell.
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B
Amazing. And we're going to have a lot more on this. President Trump imposed his will Yesterday in a 3000 year old fight and you saw nothing but good things come out.
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C
The of.
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B
Same in the Bloodlands. Short break. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, a couple of changes. Number one, we got a picture and my crack team here will put it up to Denver. So they get it. But it looks like the Charlie Kirk show is going to be from live from the the historic Cash room at the U.S. treasury Department. One of the most magnificent rooms of any of the including the White House. It's just extraordinary. And Scott Bessant's going to join them to talk about cutting off antifa funding. You don't want to miss it. That's going to be noon to the Charlie Kirk Show. Posto is going to be at 2 o'. Clock. Thereafter, Charlie Kirk's the Awarding of the Medal of Freedom is going to be at 4 o'. Clock. We're covering that live. Obviously the Eric Bolling Show. If it runs late or runs over, we're going to obviously do it live in the war room. Gold's over $4,100. It's kind of exploded the last couple days. Why is that? Because in an age of uncertainty, big uncertainty, because the Chinese Communist Party is coming for the industrial might of the United States of America. Don't let any happy talk or spin or anything like that. When they cut off and Bessen and Navarro thought they had this negotiate a couple months ago when they come for the heavy rare earths and where have you heard this starting back In I think, 2013, 2014, Breitbart News Daily hosted by Stephen K. Bannon. When the Chinese, I think it was 14 or 15 in the East China Sea had an incident with the Japanese about their fishing trawls, excuse me, the intelligence boats, they got out there and they cut the Japanese off. And that was settled in about a week because it brought Japan to its knees. And we've done nothing but exacerbate this problem, including letting them buy the number one processing company in the United States in Ohio and ship it, take it apart and ship it to wait for it, mainland China. Cleo, I'm having you back on about the charts and maps because everything you're talking about is historic and massive. But right now, as you see this, by the way, gold at $4,100 an ounce, part of the reason is the Chinese Communist Party is on a maniacal process of de dollarization to destroy the U.S. dollar. Birchgold.com, promo code. Abandon the end of the Dollar Empire. Get it today. Read it. Study it. Four years we've been putting out seven free installments. An eighth installment coming. But this will go a long way to get you up the learning curve for what you need to know to make a decision about physical gold. Philipatrick ain't going to make the decision for you. Stephen K. Bannon is not going to make the decision for you. You are going to make the decision for you as an informed consumer. Cleo, Are we heading towards a kinetic war with the Chinese Communist Party somewhere in either East Asia, around Taiwan or one of the island chains?
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D
Ma'.
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B
Am.
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A
We are in a kinetic war with the Chinese Communist Party. They've killed hundreds of thousands of Americans through fentanyl. They're getting people to destroy themselves through TikTok. I mean, if you think that they're not going to use whatever tools they think they need in whatever place at whatever time in order to win as per their own definition, which is global dominance, then you haven't been reading Unrestricted Warfare or any of those books. There have been. It may not look like what we think it's going to look like. There have been very suspicious suicides in places like the Commonwealth of Northern Marianas. They're very strategic. They don't. They think that if they do it properly and targeted, then they might not get to the sort of war where they might be at a disadvantage. But people, Americans are already dying.
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B
Hang on for a second. I've got to bounce. But let me ask you this again. Do they look at the fentanyl situation as a second Opium War where they're using. It's basically they did biological warfare in the pandemic, and this is a chemical warfare assault on the United States. And they're fully conscious of that or what they're doing? Ma'. Am.
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A
Absolutely. There's no fentanyl problem in China just like there's no TikTok problem in China. This is to destroy the United States from the inside. This is this disintegration warfare that they. That they write about themselves. It's all in the Chinese text. As Lilly said. They telegraph their punches. They know exactly what they're doing.
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B
Cleo where do people, by the way? You are a national asset. Where do people get you?
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D
Ma'. Am.
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B
Incredible.
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A
So for today, in honor of the men's department, I would say don't go to me Go to the amphibious tractor memorial.com site. Those are the men who got the 100,000 or so across the reef. They've got some events coming up. Go see them.
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B
Okay, hang on. I got to tell you, there was Cleo, some of the guys Cleo knows that said. Hey, Bannon, you did a good job. You and the team did a great job on including Clio and the Sunny Manasseh. All of it on Navy 250. Wait till you get to the men's department. Marine Corps 250. We're going to be even. We're going to be as good as or even better for the Marine Corps. So Semper fi. Thank you so much, Claire. Look forward to booking you back here either this afternoon or tomorrow.
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A
Thank you. Thank you, sir.
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B
Fentanyl, she just nailed it. She stuck the landing. Folks, Mike Lindell before we toss it to the cash room at the U.S. treasury. Boy, would Mike Landell like to get into the cash room of the U.S. treasury. We're going to make some cash. We're going to make some bank right here. Charlie Kirk and the Charlie Kirk show and then Poso. And they're going to be with Secretary of Treasury Besant before he goes over for the one o' clock lunch, I'm sure with Milei. What do you got for us today, sir?
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D
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B
Mike Lindell, you'll be back with us in the 500 o' clock hour. Will be covering the awarding to Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica Kirk and the family. The Presidential Medal of Freedom Charlie Kirk show is next posto. After that, Gruber. After that, bowling. After that, back in the War at five o' clock with Mike Lindell. We'll see that.
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A
This is an I Heart podcast.