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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies cuz we're going to medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything the world to stop that. But you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go.
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To share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I w in my soul I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K.
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Friday 17 October Year of alert 2025 so much going on today. Let's just get with it. Look, the, the, the coalition that won in 2024, of course, it's the populist nationalists of the original MAGA movement. We're bringing in new allies. Make America healthy again. Right? Nicole Shanahan and Bobby Kennedy and of course the Parents Rights movement. A lot of folks that were not magga didn't want to hear Trump's name. We got in there and moms are American Moms or these groups are amazing. I do want to say I'm glad they're in Florida. No need to come to Texas because Texas is fine, right? No teachers union, best education. I mean, give me some, some good stats here.
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I wish, I wish I could. It's going to break my heart. You know, a lot of people think a lot of things about Texas, but.
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I think you got a great education system, no teachers union and you and the parents are running the deal as they should.
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Let me break your heart, my friend. Okay? And this is going to break hearts. It's going to make people mad, especially if you pay taxes in the state of Texas. Okay? The left has understood that if they can take over the education system, they understand Generation Amen that they can Change the whole trajectory of not just the.
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Bolshev, the Bolsheviks knew it. That comes from Marxism.
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Right.
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And so the conservatives, we're about a generation behind. We're playing catch up. And President Trump gets this. But Texas elected officials unfortunately don't. And this is I was shocked to learn when I got elected. Down here. Only 24%, Steve, of Texas eighth graders are proficient in reading. Only 23% of Texas eighth graders are proficient in mathematics. And not only do we still have teacher.
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That sounds like Chicago.
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Yeah, not Texas. Not even a quarter. And we're spending $19,000 per kid per year in tax dollars. And not even a quarter are proficient in reading and math. But here's the worst part of it. It's not just that education rates are plummeting because the left took over. Liberal indoctrination's on the rise. And not only has Texas not gotten rid of teacher unions, the state, the unions down here in Texas, we've got teacher unions. It's a myth that Texas doesn't have teacher unions. Not only do we have them, but the Texas government is forcing as we speak, the hardworking, overtaxed men and women of the state of Texas are funding the teacher unions. Every time you pay property taxes in Texas, your money is going to indoctrination, including the teacher unions. And by the way, it's not a Republican Democrat split in Texas. It's freedom versus tyranny. It's conservative versus liberal. And a massive chunk of elected Republicans in Texas, so called. When I got elected four years ago, maybe a quarter of the Republican caucus in the Texas House was literally endorsed by Randy Weingarten. Teacher union.
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Here's one thing I want to ask West Texas, which is one of the true patriots, the salt of the earth. I mean, this is the backbone of America. When I looked at the Republicans and how they voted, you said, well, they're actually all teacher union Democrats.
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Ye.
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They just call themselves Republicans so they can get in. But they're all Democrats and they're all supported by Randy Weingarten.
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In a weird way, we're sort of cursed by our own success and how conservative Texas is. These radical leftist Democrats, they know they wouldn't have a snowball's chance of getting elected if they ran as a liberal Democrat. So they put the word Republican by their name, but they still go run around and take teacher union money and push leftist indoctrination in our kids and it's absolute outrage. We got to ban taxpayer funded lobbying. We still haven't done that.
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You Talk about indoctrination. Steve Cortez joins us. Steve, we started with the speech of Peter Navarro on populist nationalist policies in the lion's den of the Council on Foreign Relations. We were going to cut live to you for your speech. You're up at the Davos of really North America up in Toronto. But we had a scheduling issue. They said no. They saw what Cortez was going to say. No speech. What's happening up there, brother?
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Well, but I did get interviewed on stage, so I did present, but I was sent out effectively with a minder, right, with an interviewer who I think was to some degree trying to babysit this populist nationalist crazy man from the United States. And yes, Steve, this is really the Davos of the Americas. It's the Forum of the Americas. This is the Toronto Global Forum. It's a really impressive group of people, by the way. I mean, a bunch of CEOs, a bunch of top government officials from all over the Americas. But it's clearly, as the name would imply, it is a very globalist place, a place that is very frustrated with America first, frustrated with President Trump and with our newfound guts when it comes to trade. So what I did from the stage today, and I will credit them, again, for an audience that generally doesn't agree with us on very much, I will credit them for at least giving me the opportunity to make our case on trade. But what I tried to counsel them about these international business folks and politicians is that populism is here to stay in the United States. It's clearly not a fad, okay? This is a new era. And the populism is either gonna be the populism of the left, which, by the way, all of you powerful folks will absolutely detest, okay? Or it's gonna be the populism of the right. It's gonna be our version of patriotic nationalism. It's going to be MAGA populism, but it's E. In my view, it's binary. So stop wishing that we're going to return to a prior era, because we are not. We are not going back to the 2015 Republican Party. We're not going back to 2015 and previous American constructs and policies. We're not going back to that, quote, so called free trade era, in which American workers got completely abused by the rest of the world, not just by China, by the way, that's the worst abuse, but even by our supposed allies, and that we have an entirely new economic regime that's chaotic, it's hard for people to deal with because it's volatile, but it's the reality, and it's right. It's just for the United States. And so I tried as pleasantly as I could to make that powerful populist, nationalist case to an audience that is, frankly, not all that receptive.
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You've got. Navarro's been invited to the Council on Foreign Relations, which is the inner sanctum of the globalist in the United States. You've got. You've been invited up to this Davos of North America up in Toronto. Are they trying to actually listen and say, we see these guys coming? Because you see this in DC all the time, where they'll take a meeting or they'll listen, but the entire time the wheels are spinning to get. We need a workaround. Right. Because Trump's just a passing summer storm. You know, Bannon and Cortez and Navarro and the Harrisons, they all go away when Trump goes away. So we just got to figure out. We got to listen to these guys and figure out how to wait them out. Is that what they're trying to do, or you think they're actually being open that Mondame and Luigi Mangione have now awakened these guys. The fact that the left populism, you know, has bullets, guillotines and appropriation of their wealth, where we're trying to build an entrepreneurial society.
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Yeah, no, listen, I think, unfortunately, I take the more cynical view that for now, they still think, can we last another three years effectively and get past this era of Trump, and then things will be just fine. But again, I'm here to try to tell them the opposite. That that populist nationalism in the United States is bigger than just President Trump. He's, of course, the indispensable leader of our movement, but it's bigger than him. It predated him. It will go on beyond the Trump presidency. And again, yet, to your point, look, it's either going to be the populism of the left, which comes with a knock at the door and a confiscation of your wealth and your freedom, or it's going to be our version of populism, which is all about building a prosperous society, which is making sure that wealth is dispersed throughout the country, making sure that families can thrive on one single income. You know, I talked to the audience today, actually, about that aspect, and I think just from the looks in people's faces, they were sort of shocked that I would even mention that. I think they view that as somehow retrograde. And, look, we're not telling Anybody, they can't go to work, that they can't be a two parent working family. But we're saying, but America should have the option. And the fact of the matter is when I was a boy, which wasn't that long ago, the typical middle class family in America could do that, could thrive on a single income. Why can't that happen today? Well, one of the reasons is terrible trade policies. One of the absolute driving reasons. And we are not going to relent on this. We're going to create the society we want. We're going to create the kind of broadly dispersed prosperity that we deserve. And again, I'm warning them, this is no phase. This is an era. It is a new era in America. And if you want to interact with this new era in America, you better come to terms with it and you better be reciprocal to our goods and services into your country. And be prepared, no matter how reciprocal you are, be prepared to pay a toll. You have to pay for access to the crown jewel consumer market of the world. We have earned that right as Americans through hundreds of years of sweat and toil and innovation, we have earned the right to charge a toll, a correct toll, to get in and have access to the American market.
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Cortez, what is all your. You've got documentaries coming out, interviews coming out, writing's coming out. Where do people go to get all of it?
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Yeah, Please go to CortezInvestigates.com I've got a new trailer up, new MAHA documentary backing RFK Jr. That's going to be out on Monday. CortezInvestigates.com thank you brother.
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Told you it was a coalition MAHA, the Parents Rights Movement, hardcore MAGA, populist nationalists. Let's go. And when we talk about going after making sure that the left is deconstructed here, the tip of the spear is Palumbo. And these and what's happening at treasury, what's happening at irs? Matt, how serious is this threat? Now that George Soros is kind of off the playing field, how big a threat? Do you actually see the son any kind of a putz or is he somebody we should take even more serious than the dad?
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He definitely sounds like a putz, but I don't think he actually is. He just doesn't exactly have a talent for public speaking. But he's not a dumb guy like his father. He had been learning from his father for a while his entire life and had been accompanying him on trips all around the world and meeting with people like Hillary Clinton from a very young age. And there's actually a funny anecdote I found when researching for the book. In the early 2000s, his father called him the Apprentice and was actually referencing Donald Trump's TV show at the time. And, you know, obviously could never have imagined that 20 years later he would be the one going after them. But, you know, so it was in June 2023 that Alex Soros took over the OSF. And I remember when it happened because I had just predicted on a show 10 minutes prior that he would take over. And it was like the first time one of my predictions really panned out. But in researching for the book, I found that it seems like he really took over European operations of the Open Society foundation as early as 2015. So a lot of the activities there and really the past decade were Alex. Alex took over the board of the Open Society Foundations in December of 2022 and probably had outsized influence before then. So he already was running the show to a very large extent. But even George is still maintaining some political control. And we know that he's still meddling because he still runs his hedge fund and had been making headlines ahead of the 2024 election, where the Biden FCC fast tracked his purchase of a number of radio stations ahead of the election at a rate that our current FCC chair says was unprecedented and also is going to be looked into. So he is still manipulating. He still has influence behind the scenes, probably both with the Open Society foundation, even though Alex is running, but even through his hedge fund, he's still pulling the strings politically.
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Well, now he's in the gun sights of the Treasury Department, irs. And so we're going to see a lot of action. I know, as they try to bob and weave, but Scott Besant's on the program. When does the book come out? Can we get the COVID and put up? Where do people pre order the book? This is another one we want to drive like Navarro's and Eric Trump's. We need as a movement to drive this to top of the New York Times bestseller list. Palumbo's done the original book on Soros, which I think is the best bio, investigative bio. Now he's come out with the Apprentice, which is the kid. And that kid's got a lot of stroke with the amount of money they've got and the connections they have in the radical left, and they're financing a lot of it. This guy is quite dangerous. So where do you go for the book, Palumbo?
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So it's, I guess they always say wherever books are Sold, but Amazon's probably 99% of that at this point. It's out October 28, and with the last book I sold, I think the first week, three or four times as many as you need to be in the New York Times bestseller list. And they actually snubbed it. So they took. No, they don't like what I have to say, but I guess it's worth another shot this time.
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No, we got to make it too big to rig. The same thing happened to Navarro this time. That's what they do because they don't want the book to get momentum. What's your social media, brother? What's your coordinates?
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Twitter is Matt Palumbo12. It's the best Twitter account that gets no engagement. And obviously the header I need to update the books actually got bumped up when I when it's going to come out. So October 28th, not December 9th.
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Okay, go there. Go there now and let's pre order. Thank you, sir. I'm glad they're moving up the date. People want to get to this now.
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Yep.
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Thanks, guys.
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It's my favorite part of the show Money, Power, Politics and Right now one of the biggest financial issues for millions of Americans doesn't matter who they vote for is soaring electric bills that seem to have no limit. According to the Washington Post, average bills have jumped over 10% since last year in more than a dozen states, with some seeing increases beyond 20%. And more rate hikes have already been announced. Many Americans are blaming their lawmakers saying they should do something. And those very lawmakers have turned around and placed the blame on data centers that support tech companies AI projects. But it might not be that simple. How this has become a political and economic issue for people in places like Virginia and New Jersey that are about to elect new governors.
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It hasn't become an enormous issue in the race for governor and it's bubbled up from the grassroots from the local level. The first place I found somebody lose an election over their support for data centers is Prince William County, Virginia and I covered a couple races in that county last week. Republicans and Democrats agreed elect them, they'll stop data centers. They don't have buy in from the Republicans leading the ticket. Same thing in New Jersey. Republicans in both states are taking the position that if you don't like your energy bills, don't worry about the data centers. They create jobs.
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We should just.
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Source of energy. Democrats are starting to listen to activists who say what is the benefit of having tax subsidies and the carve outs for data centers in our communities. Dozens in Virginia this year that one permits. Why not slow this down? Why not build these somewhere else? Democrats are starting to listen to this first but they don't want to be seen as anti tech or anti growth. They want to be seen as pro cheap bills and pro let's slow this down. Let's make the companies the biggest companies in the world at the moment who are building these centers. Let's make them pay more to the state if they want to build it and they want to cause some hassle to take up some prime land.
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President Biden's infrastructure law included money to upgrade grids, but the current administration has already rolled that back so tech firms are going to have private power but what about the rest of us?
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I just think the economics goes a little bit differently here. So, you know, this is basically the electricity is the new eggs. What happened with eggs, of course, was we got the bird flu. We didn't have as many eggs as people wanted, and we had to figure out a way out of that. Actually, markets are a remarkably good way of doing this. What happened was prices went up. And when the price of eggs goes up, you know what farmers start to do? They start to get a whole lot more chickens. And we're basically at the first half point in that egg shortage right now, which is people are after a lot of electricity. This time for the power grid, this time for AI. What are they going to do? They use a lot of it. The price goes up. What's the next stage of this game? The next stage is that if it becomes really profitable to generate electricity, people are going to enter the market and just like egg prices came back down, these electricity prices are going to come back down. So I'm a lot less worried about this than some of the folks who are voting in the elections that day is following. Okay, I want to bring in Dave Walsh. I'm very honored the fact that the war room has been at the cutting edge of this for the last couple of years. One thing is Stephanie Rule. We watch her show every night. I think it's a great show. Except for that Australian economist I think is at the University of Michigan. He's always dead wrong and everything. Not kind of wrong. Dead wrong. Walsh. Here's the. Here's. They obfuscate this thing. This is a scam built upon a bigger scam. This all gets to the net. Zero carbon. What the elites is this insane response to a phony climate crisis. Then they went to this, that you see it in Germany, you were so great about warning us about France and Germany, what was happening. You've got this, first off, the problem they got us into with the scam of climate change and of course renewables. Okay? Now on top of that, now that the tech oligarchs are here, all of a sudden, they don't talk climate change. You got to now ramp it up as quickly as possible. And I will tell you in Arizona and in Texas, you're starting to see Arizona particularly, you've had a grassroots revolt against these data centers, one for the massive electrical usage which they're looking at the citizens underwrite. Also water, the huge use of water. And I'm telling you, Arizona and Texas, which are not playing into this kind of national conversation, like New Jersey is because I think this could be the thing that shifts the direction actually witness the governorship is this issue. But walk us through why this is a scam built on even bigger scam. Sir.
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Okay, Steve. There are two issues going on at the same time. The first issue is the massive uplift in electricity prices because of the mass adoption of very costly renewables, very costly part time renewals. We've already seen 40 to 45% rate increases occur here and in places like Texas. Rep. Harrison can affirm this in ERCOT because of the, the massive adoption of expensive, expensive renewables coming into the system that provide very little meaningful baseload electricity and especially nighttime or early morning electricity. So we have that going on and that's right now the bigger part of the rate increases is politicians hiding behind on both sides of the aisle, hiding behind AI that that's caused the rate increases to date. It really hasn't. That's yet to come. That's issue two. But stage one has been 250 million Americans are in regions ERCOT, Miso, Cirque, West Cirque, East Cirque, Florida who have ERCOT who have gone ahead and attempted to swap out their entire electrical system for renewables in the last eight or nine years are in the middle of doing that. And that comes at a huge, huge cost to ratepayers. That's been supported on a bipartisan basis. You got how politicians do my back. The AI issue is a little bit different because what that involves is AI firms taking advantage of public utility systems, allowing them to plug in. Let's take a place like where I live, you've got a 12,000 megawatt grid of Duke Energy. If an AI firm comes with 1,000 megawatt need, guess what the utility needs to build a $2.5 billion gas plant to support that. That cost gets spread over all the ratepayers such that the new user only pays 1/12 of that. That's a problem. Problem B is the rates for them are 50% lower. Here, they're 25% lower. Nationally, they're 50% lower.
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Okay, hang on. But I want to go to, to me, the heart of it, when it was just the consumer and the average schmo, right? The tech oligarchs, because they're all progressive lefties. It was all a climate crisis and you had to have renewables. If it's going to cost more, that's what it costs to save the plants. You can pay for it. When it comes to AI, it comes to what they need which is energy and water. Hey, they're talking about mini nuclear reactors, they're talking about gas plants. They don't care. I don't hear any, I don't hear any big thing that we need more wind farms for the AI. They're not prepared to go down something that, that's not sustainable. Right. I mean you're seeing a total shift and this is what galls me. The same guys have put in money for these left wing politicians to basically have a net carbon zero. And that was big religion when it comes to their own money. And it comes to, they now have woken up to the fact that hey, if we're going to compete with China we need mass amounts of power. I don't hear any wind farms, I don't hear any solar coming from them. They want real power that's there all the time, sir.
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Yeah, that's the top of the issue. I just like cement plants, steel plants, car plants, semiconductor plants and human beings need baseload 24 hour a day electricity supply. Red renewables don't provide that. Of course the AI moguls and Denisons come out with that right away. They can't get by on part time energy. Oh, let's let the people continue to try to get by on part time energy. Let the ratepayers get by on that. But let's have baseload for us, what would make the most sense is if they build their own instead of plugging in and taking advantage of ratepayers having to build out 2.5 billion $3 billion gas plants to support them incrementally, let them pay for that and then you've got public policy issues that need to be addressed. Such as in Pennsylvania, Google showing up, buying an existing 670 megawatt dam from Brookstone just for the purpose of Brookfield having to be able to brag about baseload energy that they've purchased. They're robbing that from the public system, from the PJM public system that's already in shortage because of shutting down coal, nuclear plants, attempting to replace them with expensive renewables. They're already in massive shortage.
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Hang on, I want to go to another topic and I'm Ash, you'll probably stay through the break for a couple minutes on the side. Here's another thing I don't get because you've got these boards where consumers are supposed to be. You've got the two bedrocks of the MAGA movement, Florida and Texas. And in Florida all they're doing is building solar all over the place and in Texas it's all wind. How did we have two MAGA states with the reddest populations we got and people on the tip of this how do we have a situation where they're going down the path for the average Schmendrick right that you're going to have solar expensive as hell or you're going to have wind. How did that happen?
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It happened in this state. This is a regulated state. Unlike Rep. Harrison State is his state by the way going forward ERCOT plan the next five years is entirely solar and battery storage New capacity additions for ERCOT the next five years a compounded disaster. Florida worse with regulated utilities who are heavily donated heavy heavy donators to PACs wind up in full control of energy policy for Florida through the state House, state Senate and the governor backing them because they're major donors. They're massive donors. They get their way. They basically control the inputs provided by the Public Service Commission who was appointed by the Governor and approved by the state senate all heavily impacted by the donor class of Duke Energy, FPL and TECO that go ahead and push forward these plans that are massively beneficial to their bottom line because the CapEx involved with these plans is five times to six times more than it would be if they were building basic combined cycle gas fired power plants. So therefore they get a rate benefit from that 11.5% guaranteed return on Delta investment. Therefore the utilities are all for the continuance of solar power for the people now when it talks to AI. AI can't live with that. They need 24 hour day really power like the rest of us. They appear to be getting lined up in North Carolina for example the state of House supported a notionality that they get to take full advantage of Just plugging into the group.
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Think he froze again. I'll tell you take it back Their.
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Fair share of the new capacity.
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Yeah.
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Why?
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Why is Texas not powered by what we call American energy?
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We are.
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We are blessed beyond measure. We should be dominating the energy market not just in the United States, but in the whole planet. But here's the problem. It's totally embarrassing that a red state like Texas and with as much energy reserves as we have under our soil, every time it gets hot or every time it gets cold, people in Texas don't know if we're going to have power. We literally institute California style rolling blackouts every time it's really hot or really cold. Why is this that the free market didn't lead to this? This is because supposedly Republican leaders in the state of Texas have been doubling and tripling down for decades on the Green New Deal scam. And we've got these windmills that are just destroying the beautiful landscape of our state. And taxpayers, ratepayers, they're getting hosed on both ends because these solar farms, these wind farms would never happen under free market forces. The taxpayers are having their money stolen from them, put in all the wind and solar and then guess what, whenever we need them the most, it's not there for us. So taxpayers get to pay double by price spikes and price gouging and massive surcharges every time it's really hot or really cold in the state of Texas.
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Well, Walsh, this one I don't get. You got Florida and Texas have driven the first term of Trump and driven the second term of Trump. How do we have a situation where you still got the Green New scam? Let's be blunt. And it's got to be some deal here with lobbyists. There's got to be some deal with kickbacks of politicians. There's got to be something going on because it doesn't make any sense. Sense from an economic point of view or an energy point of view. And like I said, the voters in these states are among the most sophisticated and tip of the spear in the MAGA movement. So how did this come about with our two best states?
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Can I ask him a question on that?
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Yeah, sure, sure.
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If you can say it like this in Florida, like it is in Texas. One of the ways our government's doubling down the Green New Deal scam, that's what it is, is for years the state of Texas has been giving property tax abatements, effectively subsidizing these renewable companies to come in. Texas shops are paying full freight on their property taxes. Texas are being taxed out of their homes. But these big wind and solar companies come in and the school districts are like, you don't have to pay property taxes. Are y' all doing similar things like that down in Florida?
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Yes, sir. Rep. Harrison in May of this year at the state House in Florida passed a bill to allow major users of ag property that are converting it to solar mixed use. If you plant five tomato plants on a 680 acre solar farm, guess what? In Florida, you now as of may get the ag property exemption for your solar farm. So Florida has just doubled down in May of 2025 in the middle of the Trump administration has doubled down on its own incentivization of more and more utility scale solar farms to take 680 acres to generate about 19 megawatts of power. Absolutely obscene use of land. But no, we're all over incentivizing this locally and supporting it because the utilities in A regulated state here, which you're not, but we got that. We're following Texas lead on this as a regulated state because those who are regulated are massive political donors. They are essentially in effective control of these policies. Duke Energy, Teco and Florida Power and Light at the state house level, the state Senate level, the Public Service Commission who were appointed by the governor and the governor because they're massive donors, they get their way. So we, and this is, this is good for their P and L Solar and wind are solar here is a massive uplift in capital spending which has a guaranteed 11.5 state regulated rate of return on capital spending for energy devices by utilities. Therefore they're in love with this and they're going to stick with it.
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In Texas we've got appointees of our Republican governor down here that for years have been charged by the legislature would come with some kind of firming standards which is if you're going to sell, I know we're not regulated like you are, but if you're going to sell and provide energy to our grid, you at least have to give us some assurances that when we need the power, you're going to be there there. Nothing's been happening on that for years down here in Texas. So very similar dynamic and it's a shame. Red states.
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We're not just red states. The two red states. Walsh, we got a bounce. I want everybody to go to your, your Walt, Dave Walsh Energy to get all this because this is, I'm telling you in New Jersey this could be the difference. And hey, as sure as the turning of the earth, Florida, Texas, Arizona, you watch these things are going to be a grassroots revolt against this crisis going to be highlighted by these data centers. And the data center is not just going to take massive amounts of energy and somebody's got to figure out where it's going to come from. The water situation in West Texas and in Arizona are going to be a huge issue about all of this. You've already started to see a populist revolt against it. Walsh, where do people go?
J
Rep. Harrison is exactly right. Texas has built only two baseload power plants in the last 12 years. They're called Colorado Bend and Wolf Hollow. Florida, since 2021 has built none, only solar. So at Dave Walsh Energy, this is insane.
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Okay, Dave, thank you. You've been the tip of the spear here, folks. This is, I mean Florida and they're the two foundational stanchions of the MAGA movement.
H
Right?
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And it's obscene what's happening in two states. And into the. Into the great folks there. We got Mike Lindell. Mike Lindell, your reporters on fire. You got Nancy Pelosi on the run up on Capitol Hill. Lindell tv. You guys are killing this. I need you here today to sell me a pillow and a pair of sheets, sir.
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A
Oh, Lindell, TV is amazing. I want to ask a question. A judge found you guilt, and I don't know how they do this. Before you go to trial, a judge found you guilty of talking smack about Smartmatic. Correct me if I'm wrong. Did Smartmatic get indicted in the Philippines yesterday for money laundering? For bribing politicians? Is that. I just want to make sure because, hey, I'm not a machine guy. Smartmatic. But hold it. Is smartmatic get indicted in the Philippines for all these. These horrible crimes?
F
Yes, they did, Stephen, on my investigations all the way back in January of 21. I've known all this, and I've tried to get it out to the. To the public in the world for four and a half years now. They're smart mag. They go all the way back with corruption. But yes, they got indicted yesterday. And you would think that this judge would say, gee, Mike, anybody would say the same thing you did when they. This judge ruled that I'm guilty of defamation and my pillow is also guilty by association. You can't make this up.
A
How can you defame which looks like a criminal operation? It looks like when you read what they did in the Philippines, I assumed this is going to happen in other countries. They look like a criminal organization. How can you defame a criminal organization, sir?
F
Yeah, yeah. You can't. I mean, it's not only that, Steve, you're questioning. These machine companies are government private contractors. If I can't use my free speech to question them and say which our own government should be looking inside and finding out the companies they're dealing with, that's another shameful thing that's going on in our country. But you can't. So this judge that ruled in Minneapolis last week that MyPillow and Mike Lindell defamed this corrupt company. I'm sorry, you got to ask Judge, where'd you come up with this? Maybe come up with.
A
Just get him a copy of the indictment in the Philippines. Say, bro, this defame some more than anything I've ever said. Right.
F
And, Steve, it's very dangerous to everybody if I don't appeal this. No matter what Smartmatic's done out there and what's in the news now, if I don't appeal this. The ramifications. This will set a precedent that none of us will ever be able to use our free speech to question a government private contractor again. They're gonna always point back to this. So we are gonna appeal. And of course, we're gonna win. I mean, this goes to the 8th Circuit, which overturned the other one, but you make this stuff up.
A
No, no, this is. This shows you what President Trump and his team are dealing with, because you got these frontline district federal judges that are out of control. I mean, they're more radical. MyPillow.com promo code. War room. The most powerful promo code in the business. Mike Lindell. God bless you. See you this afternoon.
F
Yeah. Thank you, Steve.
A
Guys are indicted on all this money laundering, bribing politicians, and stealing from the people of the Philippines. And yet. And yet, poor Mike Lindell. The judge already found him guilty. No trial. The guilty of defamation. We're just here to see how much I got. A minute and a half. You're gonna stick around through the next block. Harnwell's gonna join us. I think I've come to a revelation. Except for the life topic, which is great. Here in Texas, in a big fight, the rest of the politicians, the real deal, it's a purple state, I may actually say a blue state.
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Right.
A
The way.
D
It's the government, not the people.
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Not the people. The people are the hardest core MAGA we got. This is what drives me crazy. You got what's going on in Florida, and DeSantis is great on so many things, but there's something not right with this. You know, this, this green new scam where the President says it's over. Of course, by the way, we're buying all the component parts for the windmills and for the batteries from China. Right. Might add to that. But besides life, which Texas is great on, the rest of the government's a kind of a blue government is not.
D
Yeah, we have a lot of people, like I said earlier, they know they can't get. Get elected as the Democrats, which is what they actually got. Horror. So they put the word Republican by themselves and they vote for. For life. And that's good. We need to be a pro life state. And we are. But that doesn't mean you can go be a Marxist leftist, socialist Democrat on every other issue. And on this water and the AI data center thing, I mean, we got the state of Texas right now. It's a ballot proposition. They're trying to take over the state government, trying to take over the water supply. And when I asked them why the state needs to take this over, I was told we got to get the water to these AI and tech data centers. So the Texas taxpayers, mayors are going to be the ones putting the bill.
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This is just not the rivers, folks. These are aquifers and that's what keeps Texas and Arizona going as these aquifers. You let those, you let those tech oligarchs get their hands on that, forget it. Right. It's going to be one thing too.
D
If they were paying for it, but the Texas government's going to make my constituents and 30 million Texans foot the bill.
A
We're going to short. Commercial break Back in the War In a moment, Harrison's going to be here. We got Ben Harnwell to talk about Zelinsky's one o' clock meeting with the President. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, today at five we're shifting out Harrison, right. And we're going to have Wagan in and we got a huge rally tomorrow, correct? Yes. And both of you guys will be back tomorrow morning. You're going to take an hour. You're going to take an hour. We got this whole set. What can we look for in the five o' clock hour? Well, it's going to be exciting. Let's talk about faith, family and freedom.
D
Let's talk about some Texas politics and.
A
Speaking truth to power. What we have to do is talk about how we have the most religious, most faithful, hardest core magazine in the country that is supporting President Trump's presidency getting back in office. Yet the government in Texas is a blue government. I don't understand. And they're coming after you specifically because they don't want to. They made a mistake not getting Harrison and they said, hey, we can't let her in here. Right? I mean, absolutely.
D
In my 30 years of politics, I have never seen a candidate with not over 93% of their contributions from special interests that are out of state.
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This is the first. Well, they, they dropped it after two weeks after they saw that you announced all sudden they came up with this candidate, right? Yes, of course. That was a totally random event. Now you've scared the hell out of port. It's the Glenn story of it all but that you've scared the hell out of the establishment here already. Well, they know that I'm an independent thinker. They know that I'm not a go along to get along person and they don't want that in Austin and we.
D
Need that in Austin.
A
I got it badly after going today. Okay, we got a Zelensky's in the Oval Office with the president. One o', clock, our own Ben Har. Well, live from Rome. Ben, we're hearing from everybody. If we agree to offensive weapons to the Tomahawk missile, Putin said, hey, I'm sending 2 million new troops and we're going to get it on. Although the President of the United States has said I've got Marco going to go negotiate with a team and I'm setting up to go to Hungary with Viktor Orban and meet with President Putin to sort this thing out. What do you got for us?
E
Morning, Steve. Morning, Brian. Morning, Lee. Well, you know, we thought we'd pretty much wrap this up yesterday in 24 hours. How much has changed? The big news, Steve, is that President Trump had an had a very short notice two hour phone call last night with President Putin at President Putin's request. That I think is the background to the Hungary meeting. Forecast hasn't been set yet the date it'll be about two weeks time next week as you as you indicate. Marco Rubio is going to sit down with Sergey Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister to try and prepare the ground for that meetings of the two heads of state. The timing is incredibly important here, Steve. It's obviously an attempt to take the wind somewhat out of the sails of President Zelensky who very shortly indeed is going to be sitting down with President Trump at the White House on the, on the Tomahawks missiles front. We know and we said earlier on in the week to start praying novenas ahead of that. President Trump said after his phone call yesterday with Putin astonishing folks, this is pure maga, pure America first. He said last night we can't talking about the US Stockpiles. We can't deplete our current country. That I think is going to be a significant obstacle to President Zelensky's objective. He has one objective in this meeting with President Trump today and that is to get his hands on these Tomahawks. As we said yesterday on the show, not so much because of the damage these Tomahawks can do in Russia but provide but to use that as a pretext for the United States states to be dragged into this war because that is Zelensky's only hope now of winning this war of attrition which he cannot win in in any other means.
A
Ben, what's your social media Great analysis. You're going to be back at 6 with the perspective of all this. Where do people go in the interim?
E
Thanks Steve. My social media platform of choice geta simply tap in my surname Han. Well and I've got several updates there of of precisely what we're talking about right right now.
A
Beady eyed cynic that you are whenever you go. We'll see you. We'll see you six o' clock tonight. Thanks, Ben.
E
Thanks, Steve. God bless.
A
We're followed as we have been for the last four years by the Charlie Kirk Show, POSO and Human Events Daily is after that. You got Steve Gruber, Eric Bolling. Then we're back here at five o' clock with my co host Lee wants. By the way, you've got the Charlie Kirk Freedom shirt on. We'll talk a lot about Charlie today. The, the impact he had down here in Texas and grassroots. I just want to leave you guys with one thing. There's not a better grassroots because we had this meeting here a couple of months ago where we decided, you guys decided that, hey, we're going to force the political establishment in Austin to deal with this redistricting issue and you guys got five seats in the grassroots and it was a herculean effort against amazing opposition. So much that was a huge part of that. No, no, no. And these guys love it. And by the way, inspired Degrass, those guys up on Capitol Hill said, hey, if we can do Texas, DeGrasse has got a gross amount of 21 that could go. Not even counting what happened in Louisiana the other day. This is how important the redistricting is. But the key is that you guys took it on when it was absolutely dead and not going to happen in a special session and moved heaven and earth. That's the power of the grassroots here. And it's unacceptable that you've got the foundational element based on of the MAGA movement that has brought President Trump on their shoulders back to a amazing second term that he's done more than any president in history in the first 250 days. And this state is out of control because of the political class of establishment Republicans and demographical Democrats have turned this in politically into a blue state. And I think that's one of the things we're down here for. This can't happen. Well, first of all, we're not going to have a country. As Texas goes, so goes the nation. And as the nation goes, so goes the world. So that's why I'm so proud to be down here. And kind of, it's really the memory and what Charlie Kirk tried to accomplish and you see in the grassroots people down here. But we got a hell of a fight and I think it's epitomized by you as soon as Lee announced him. For years I've been saying to Glenn everything, she's so spectacular and so self effacing humble. We got to get her into elective office because she could be a game changer like Harrison as soon as she announced two weeks later they've got an establishment guy with all the lobbyists money because they understand you're a threat to the system. That's right. And you know, I've been speaking truth.
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To power for decades and it's really not that hard.
A
It's just do the right thing.
D
The government seems to have a problem with that.
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No, the problem I'll make him and.
D
We'Re in a battle for the future of Western civilization. But the Texas government is forcing taxpayers to fund everything Charlie Kirk opposed.
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Lee will be back here at five of my co hosts, Lee and Brian tomorrow morning. And then we're to going to have a huge rally for Lee late in the afternoon. Just go to war room.org, grace and Mo are going to push it out hard. We're going to leave you with the right stuff. And you know why? If any state in this union's got the right stuff, it's the great state of Texas. And now we've got to take the grassroots and the MAGA movement and convert it into a political class here that runs the state for the people, not for themselves and the vested special interest. We'll see you back in Charlie Kirk show is next. We're back here at five o' clock Eastern Daylight Time. We'll see you back here in the war room.
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Foreign.
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This is an I Heart podcast.
On this episode of The War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon and a lineup of guests dissect the current state of politics, culture, and economics through the lens of the MAGA and populist-nationalist movements. Key focus areas include the shifting political balance in Texas, the impact of renewable energy and AI data centers on American utilities, the evolving Soros family influence, free speech threats, and major geopolitical developments surrounding the U.S., Ukraine, and Russia. Throughout, the panel voices concerns about establishment Republican complacency, Democratic influence in red states, and intensified grassroots efforts to drive realignment.
New Allies in 2024 and Beyond:
Stephen K. Bannon highlights how the MAGA movement is expanding, bringing in allies like Nicole Shanahan, Bobby Kennedy, and the Parents Rights movement, even including those originally uncomfortable with Trump.
“Moms or these groups are amazing…I'm glad they're in Florida. No need to come to Texas because Texas is fine, right? No teachers union, best education.” – Bannon (01:25)
Reality Check on Texas Education:
Despite Texas's reputation, guests challenge the "no teacher union, best education" myth. State Rep. Harrison reveals dismal proficiency rates and union influence.
“Only 24% of Texas eighth graders are proficient in reading. Only 23%…we're spending $19,000 per kid per year…Not even a quarter are proficient…” – Rep. Harrison (02:30)
“It’s a myth that Texas doesn't have teacher unions…your money is going to indoctrination…” – Rep. Harrison (02:52)
“A massive chunk of elected Republicans in Texas…literally endorsed by Randy Weingarten.” – Rep. Harrison (03:48)
The Incursion into Globalist Forums:
Steve Cortez recounts his “managed” appearance at the Toronto Global Forum, likened to Davos, representing U.S. populist-nationalist perspectives to a skeptical, globalist audience.
“I was sent out with a minder…babysit this populist nationalist crazy man from the US.” – Cortez (04:53)
Warning to Globalists:
Cortez insists populism in America is here to stay, describing a binary choice between leftist populism (“bullets, guillotines and appropriation”) and MAGA-style nationalism (“prosperity…families can thrive on one single income”).
“Populism is either gonna be the populism of the left…or it's gonna be the populism of the right…We're not going back to…the so called free trade era in which American workers got completely abused…” – Cortez (06:53)
“This is no phase. This is an era. It is a new era in America.” – Steve Cortez (07:48)
The 'Apprentice' Rises:
Matt Palumbo, author and Soros biographer, details Alex Soros’s ascension to the head of the Open Society Foundations (OSF) and his increasing role since 2015.
"He'd been learning from his father…accompanying him on trips all around the world…In 2023, Alex Soros took over the OSF…" – Matt Palumbo (10:40)
Old Guard Still Pulling Strings:
Despite the handover, George Soros remains politically active, notably in fast-tracked media acquisitions before the 2024 election.
"He is still manipulating…even through his hedge fund, he's still pulling the strings politically." – Matt Palumbo (12:42)
“Average bills have jumped over 10%...some seeing increases beyond 20%...Lawmakers…placed the blame on data centers…” – Segment Intro (16:04)
“The problem…mass adoption of very costly renewables…We've already seen 40 to 45% rate increases…because of the massive adoption of expensive, expensive renewables…" – Dave Walsh (20:49)
"Florida…regulated utilities…wind up in full control of energy policy…because they're major donors…cap ex involved with these plans is 5–6 times more than basic gas power." – Dave Walsh (25:50)
“How did we have two MAGA states…the reddest populations…going down this path?...It's got to be some deal here with lobbyists.” – Bannon (30:39)
“Trying to take over the state government…to take over the water supply…I was told we gotta get the water to these AI and tech data centers.” – Rep. Harrison (41:02)
Mike Lindell’s Dilemma:
Following his court loss in a defamation suit brought by Smartmatic, Lindell discusses the international scandal surrounding the voting machine company and warns about the chilling effect on political speech.
“The judge ruled that I'm guilty of defamation and MyPillow is also guilty by association. You can't make this up.” – Mike Lindell (37:43)
Pressing the Appeal:
Lindell frames the situation as a free speech battle:
“If I don’t appeal this…the ramifications…none of us will ever be able to use our free speech to question a government private contractor again.” – Lindell (39:13)
“Besides life, which Texas is great on, the rest of the government's a kind of a blue government…” – Bannon (41:02)
“President Trump said…‘we can't deplete our current country’…that's going to be a significant obstacle to President Zelensky’s objective…” – Ben Harnwell (44:01)
“It's not a Republican Democrat split in Texas. It's freedom vs. tyranny…a massive chunk of elected Republicans…endorsed by Randy Weingarten.” – Rep. Harrison (02:52–03:48)
“This is no phase. This is an era. It is a new era in America.” – Steve Cortez (07:48)
“Every time it gets hot or cold [in Texas], people don’t know if we're going to have power. We literally institute California style rolling blackouts.” – Rep. Harrison (29:40)
“How can you defame a criminal organization?” – Bannon (38:16)
“Texas is MAGA as can be…and the government…is a blue government…” – Bannon (41:02)
“If I don’t appeal this…the ramifications…none of us will ever be able to use our free speech to question a government private contractor again.” – Mike Lindell (39:13)
“The Texas government’s going to make my constituents and 30 million Texans foot the bill [for water for AI data centers].” – Rep. Harrison (41:48)
| Segment | Time | |------------------------------------------------|--------------| | Opening: MAGA coalition and Texas politics | 01:25–04:28 | | Texas education woes and teacher unions | 02:30–04:07 | | Steve Cortez at Toronto Global Forum | 04:28–09:49 | | Soros family influence (Matt Palumbo) | 10:07–14:18 | | Data centers, energy bills, and AI | 16:04–34:33 | | Texas/Florida renewables policy debate | 25:07–34:33 | | Legal battle: Lindell & Smartmatic | 37:12–39:44 | | Texas politics: MAGA vs. blue government | 40:03–43:28 | | Zelensky’s U.S. visit & Ukraine crisis | 43:28–46:29 |
The episode is energetic, combative, and deeply skeptical of the political and economic establishment. Speakers display a sense of urgency and frustration, especially around issues of grassroots empowerment, establishment capture, and what they perceive as elite hypocrisy—especially in red states like Texas and Florida. They champion free speech, alarm over lawfare, and the need for MAGA-aligned grassroots to actively reshape the political class.
This War Room episode is a vibrant, at times incendiary, exploration of the paradoxes within populist politics, red-state governance, renewable energy economics, and international intrigue. Through candid exchanges, the hosts and guests challenge assumptions about party loyalty, economic policy, and elite influence, underlining the necessity for a truly grassroots-driven, MAGA-aligned transformation of American political power—starting with Texas and reverberating across the nation and globe.