Real America’s Voice: War Room with Stephen K. Bannon

Episode #4880 | October 27, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Featured Guests: Naomi Wolf, Mark Mitchell, Donald Trump (clip), various contributors

Episode Overview

This episode of the War Room centers on mounting political and cultural tensions in the U.S., focusing particularly on:

• Intense speculation and controversy over Trump’s potential run for a third term in 2028, and creative interpretations of the 22nd Amendment.
• U.S. foreign policy challenges, President Trump's diplomatic efforts in Asia, and the “New Cold War.”
• The emergence of radical populist left-wing politics in major U.S. cities, epitomized by the rise of Ugandan-born politician Zainab Mamdani in New York City.
• A wider reflection on shifting allegiances, generational attitudes, nationalism vs. globalism, and anxieties about the future of American democracy.

Throughout, the tone is charged, combative, and deeply skeptical of both mainstream narratives and progressive urban politics.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Trump’s 2028 Candidacy and the 22nd Amendment

• Bannon’s Provocative Statement [00:04]:

  • “Trump is going to be President 28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that... At the appropriate time, we'll lay out what the plan is.”
  • Raises speculation about circumventing the two-term limit in the U.S. Constitution.

• Panel Reaction & Legal Debate [00:16-01:19]:

  • Tony: Reiterates the plain language of the 22nd Amendment, questioning Bannon’s stance.
  • Bob: Highlights the potential for a historic legal showdown, should Trump or his allies challenge the term limit, pitting Congress and the courts in a constitutional crisis.

• Trump Responds to Speculation [01:28-02:37]:

  • Donald Trump: Dismisses speculation, pivots to his foreign policy achievements: “I have the best poll numbers I’ve ever had. I just solved eight wars, and a ninth is coming... We saved the lives of millions of people. That’s what’s important.”
  • Also entertains (but ultimately rejects) the idea of running as Vice President: “It’s too cute. The people wouldn’t like that. It's not... right.” [03:19]

• Mark Mitchell Analysis [03:36-06:00]:

  • Advises not to fall for Bannon's “angle” as mere attention-seeking.
  • Argues that while a Trump third term is possible, it’s far from certain. “The right way to think about this is that... it is a possibility, and we should take that seriously.”

2. Shifting U.S. Foreign Policy and Cold War Dynamics

• Foreign Policy Debate [06:00-07:39]:

  • Foreign Policy Author: Identifies three key divides:
    • Isolationism vs. engagement (“isolationist tendencies scare me—reminds me of the 1930s”)
    • Unilateralism vs. multilateralism (“long-term, unilateralism alienates the world”)
    • Democracy promotion vs. realism (“Making democracy promotion a key pillar of American foreign policy has served us well in the past and will serve us well deep into the 21st century.”)

• Bannon’s Worldview on China and U.S. Security [07:39–15:04]:

  • Describes the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) as America’s “mortal enemy,” while lauding Trump's successful Asia diplomacy—securing rare earth supply compromises, trade wins, and tentative rapprochements with rivals.
  • Frames these moves as a win for U.S. reindustrialization and a warning against past globalist policies: “A game changer for everything we’re trying to work on here in the reindustrialization of the United States and should be an object lesson to those globalists who allowed all the processing capability to go to the Chinese Communist Party.”
  • Critiques domestic policy neglect: “You got to balance what these hedge funds made... versus what the farmers are going to get hit with... It’s all about hemispheric defense—Monroe Doctrine 2.0—about getting the Chinese Communist Party out.”

3. Populism, Immigration, and the Rise of Mamdani in New York City

• Populism and Economic Discontent [17:06–30:49]:

  • Bannon ties international instability directly to domestic populist revolt, linking economic insecurity (especially among young people) to the growing political appeal of leftist politicians like Zainab Mamdani.
  • Warns of “foreign born voters” tipping the scales in urban politics and characterizes city governments as “neo-Confederate operations.”

• Mamdani and the “Green Red Revolution” [30:49–44:15]:

  • Naomi Wolf: Explores how Mamdani’s success stems from capturing the enthusiasm of alienated young New Yorkers with promises of social welfare (“a chicken in every pot”).
  • Raises alarm over illicit campaign funding, radical policies, and the role of global “elites” (“the globalists are using extremist Islam... to tenderize and destroy the West”).
  • Dismantles polling as manipulated or misleading, suggesting Mamdani’s ground game is the decisive factor.

• Ground Game, Polls, and Fractured Opposition [33:38–36:39]:

  • Bannon and Wolf agree that opposition to Mamdani failed due to lack of unity and support from establishment Republicans.
  • Bannon: “Modern politics... is all about turning out low propensity voters. And he’s going to turn out Curtis Sliwa. Anybody that supported Sliwa at all is to blame here.”
  • Wolf highlights the failure to take threats seriously or mount an effective resistance.

• Cultural Anxiety and the Next Chapter [38:13, 43:30]:

  • Wolf and Bannon warn of a larger trend—European-style populism, nationalist parties on the rise, and global “swapping” of disruptive forces (“globalists switched mercenaries” from big tech/China to “extremist Islam”).
  • Both view the Mamdani phenomenon as part of a global struggle between nationalist and globalist worldviews.

4. Communicating Accomplishments, National Mood, and the Need for Political Narrative

• Wolf’s Communication Critique [46:07–51:53]:

  • Wolf urges Trump to communicate the benefits of his foreign policy more directly to Americans: “He needs someone very forceful, intelligent at home to highlight the economic benefits.”
  • Warns against focusing exclusively on grand global moves while neglecting the “victory lap” for Americans wanting to feel national pride and economic improvement.

• Bannon Echoes Need for Narrative [48:11]:

  • “You have to take the time... people here will understand. Okay? He is taking care of things here because he’s settling down things that we would get involved in or be dragged into or it costs us money to avoid, correct?”

• Wolf on Restoring Pride:

  • “We are respected again around the world... America is, has a burnished reputation again after a long time of being laughed at and mocked and humiliated. I think that would go a long way. We are a city on a hill.”

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“Trump is going to be President 28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that. So what about the 22nd Amendment? There’s many different alternatives. At the appropriate time, we’ll lay out what the plan is.”
— Steve Bannon [00:04]

“The U.S. constitution says two terms only... But what's also plain as day... is that President Trump is close to Steve Bannon... and many Republicans want to see the president renominated in 28, despite what the Constitution says. That could create a real legal showdown.”
— Bob [00:16]

“I have the best poll numbers I’ve ever had. I just solved eight wars, and a ninth is coming... We saved the lives of millions of people. That’s what’s important.”
— Donald Trump [01:34]

“It’s too cute. I think the people wouldn’t like that. It’s not. It wouldn’t be right.”
— Donald Trump, on the idea of running as VP [03:19]

“To think about this probabilistically... is it a possibility? Yeah, it is. And we should take that possibility seriously.”
— Mark Mitchell [06:00]

“This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going to make the evil on these people.”
— Steve Bannon [07:39]

"Hemispheric defense, one of the foundational elements of it is, is making sure that we take care of Latin America. We don’t have left wing communist pro CCP governments.”
— Steve Bannon [15:00]

“You can’t have dual citizenship and be in Congress... I got a better one. There should be no dual citizenship in the United States of America. You have to pledge allegiance to one nation.”
— Steve Bannon [17:00]

“If you think this is going to be reversed easily, you are incorrect... You're going to have to take a trenching tool and get them out.”
— Steve Bannon, on radical political change in cities [17:00]

“It’s like lightning in a bottle. A lot of things have really come together... They know their audience... I don’t trust the polls.”
— Naomi Wolf, on Mamdani’s campaign [32:47]

“Modern politics... is all about turnout and ground game.”
— Steve Bannon [33:38]

“Tyrants have promised a chicken in every pot or free everything forever. And so it’s not new.”
— Naomi Wolf [46:08]

“He needs someone at home to... explain the benefit to the American people of what he's battling around the world... Have eggs gone down? Has gas gone down? ...It's an easy message to run.”
— Naomi Wolf [47:05]

“We are respected again around the world. ...America is, has a burnished reputation again after, you know, a long time of being laughed at and mocked and humiliated. I think that would go a long way. ...We are a city on a hill.”
— Naomi Wolf [50:00]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Trump 2028 speculation & constitutional debate: 00:04–06:00
• Foreign policy worldview & new Cold War: 06:00–07:39
• Bannon on Asia trip, CCP, supply chain, rare earths: 07:39–15:04
• Populism, immigration, radical city politics: 17:06–30:49
• Wolf & Bannon: The Mamdani challenge & NYC mayoral crisis: 30:49–44:15
• Wolf: Communication strategy and American pride: 46:07–51:53

Conclusion

Episode #4880 of the War Room offers a vivid illustration of populist, nationalist anxiety and strategic thinking within Trump-aligned media. The potential for a Trump third term, the legal and political chaos it could spark, and the “threat” posed by globalists, immigration, and radical urban politics loom large. Naomi Wolf’s commentary provides intellectual weight, pushing for a more strategic, pride-based messaging to counter rising left-wing populism in cities. American sovereignty—domestically and globally—is the throughline, with the audience urged to stay vigilant and engaged.