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So Justin, I'm going to get you.
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On that to start.
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Yeah, I've got that right in front of me. So pretty much what everyone expected would happen happened. Don't read too much into this. This is not the Fed putting its.
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Foot on the gas.
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It's really the Fed taking its foot off the brake. It put the brakes on to deal with the post pandemic inflation. Now it's all the way back to neutral. What do you do when you're in a world where there's no more data? It can be really hard to figure out the next steps. But you do know being neutral is a safe place to be. There's two other things that have struck me straight away. First of all, Stephen Moran, the new Fed member, former Trump CEA chair, beclowns himself for a second meeting in a.
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Row calling for a 50 basis point cut.
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He's tried to explain his logic in the past and frankly, it's illogical. And you actually got another Fed board member who's who's gone the other way and said there should have been no change whatsoever. So you've got a split board there. So he wants a 50% cut.
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Is that what you said?
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50 basis point, percentage point. Schmidt wants zero. The rest of the committee was at a quarter. And that really tells you that yes, there is a debate, but there are two sides to this debate.
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President Trump, meantime, is launching a new.
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Attack on former special counsel Jack Smith.
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MSNBC's Kendallanean is following that story for us. What's the latest, Ken? Chris, in a truth social post, the president has denounced Jack Smith as a deranged thug and a criminal who should be investigated and put in prison. This is not a surprise, but the reason it's significant is that there are investigations swirling around Jack Smith. There's congressional investigations, and there may well be a Justice Department investigation of his conduct as special counsel. Trump in particular is referring to the investigation into his efforts to overturn the election. The irony of that, Chris is that we're out with an exclusive story today about a book by our colleague Carol Lennig which reveals that, in fact, the Justice Department essentially moved much more slowly in that investigation than it had to and could fairly be criticized for slow walking that investigation, for being overly deferential to Donald Trump as the past and possibly future president and made some decisions that really slowed that thing down. It may never have gotten to trial because of the Supreme Court in any event, but it certainly didn't go as quickly as it could have. And in fact, there's no evidence that Jack Smith did anything wrong or that Democrats weaponized the Justice Department to go after Donald Trump. Politicians who've been investigated by the federal government have forever been denouncing their prosecutors. I've seen this my whole career, Chris. But what we've never seen is a person who is then investigated federally and then becomes president and has the authority to actually bring the weight of the Justice Department against the prosecutor who investigated him.
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Chris, so much that we have never seen before.
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There's no doubt about that. Well, extremely difficult, particularly since in the, in the release they also note, Katie, that inflation remains elevated and above the Fed's target.
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And so we are a little bit.
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Off the highs, as you can see. And so this split, too, that Justin.
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Just referred to shows that there are.
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Still warring camps within the Federal Reserve, some of whom are worried about inflation, remain elevated, some who are worried about.
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As you pointed out at the top of the show, a deteriorating labor market.
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Yet at the very same time, with this AI boom and with wealthier people.
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Spending a lot of money, gross domestic.
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Product or economic growth is actually stronger than anticipated. So this is the type of conundrum the Fed has not faced in the past, particularly when you've got stocks making new all time highs.
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And it's a very rare environment which.
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The Federal Reserve actually cuts rates when.
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You have this combination of economic factors.
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All taking place at one time.
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So my guess is they might, or.
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Jay Powell in his commentary coming up might indicate a pause, given that we may not get any inflation or jobs data for another month, month and a.
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Half, maybe even two months.
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As much of a gut punch as it was at the time, it is.
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All the more chilling and haunting now. The new official acts immunity lies about.
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Like a loaded weapon, she wrote, for any president that wishes to place his.
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Own interests, his own political survival or.
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His own financial gains ahead of the interests of the nation.
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What do you think about this moment? I think that that decision was written and I remember we talked about it at the time as this entirely academic thought experiment about executive power. Imagine a normal president in a normal presidency and imagine sort of the maximalist read of what kind of power we would want him to have so that we didn't chill him. We want him to make, you know, fast good decisions. And in some sense, it was presented that way. And we all looked at each other and we said, but this isn't an ordinary president, and this isn't an academic exercise. This is a person who has time and time and time again led with the proposition that he could shoot someone and get away with it. And so for the court to say, yeah, yeah, his lawyers went into court and said he could send someone from Seal Team 6 in to assassinate a political rival. And that's plausible. And now we are living with it. And you're quite right about two things. One is this immunity decision keeps popping up time and time and time again. Right. It's being invoked now as the basis for dismissing the criminal charges against Trump in New York. It was invoked as some, some basis for why Trump wanted to go after the Justice Department and shake them down for investigating him. I mean, we are going to see immunity, immunity, immunity, as Justice Sotomayor said, pulled out time and time again. And let's recall, a part of that decision really bubble wrapped him in consultation with his attorney. Right? That becomes also something that the courts can't look at or second guess. And so when President Trump says to Pam Bondi, inadvertently tells the whole world, thinking he's communicating with her privately, that she needs to do a better job going after his political rivals, all of that is because he's emboldened, because the court handed him that on a silver platter. And I think the other piece of it that is so important, and this just goes to where Glenn started, is it's not just Justice Department lawyers who don't know what to do about this. It's judges themselves around the country who have to grapple with the fact that Donald Trump was handed a loaded gun by the Supreme Court and he's waving it around all over the country in case after case. And judges now have to figure out, what do I do? Because my hands are tied by this broad maximalist decision that was presented as a fait accompli.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go.
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To share the big lie?
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MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be safe.
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Band Wednesday 29th October Yer Valor 2025 did she say. I think I give her a hug. Did she say maximalist three separate times? Come on baby, you're getting it now. You see, if you repeat it, if you wash, rinse, repeat, wash, rinse, repeat, wash, rinse, repeat over and over and over again. Even the, the not particularly the dim bulbs of the progressive left, including contributors to MSNBC day parts will finally get it. They're melting. One of the things I think they're also becoming aware of is the Supreme Court under Roberts has made a pre is head of prediction profound sea change in that they have essentially signaled because of their rulings and the way they've written the opinions about the rulings that they are very different than the Warren Court. They're not going to be activists, they're not going to intercede in every aspect of American life. They're just not. They've bifurcated a lot of this by saying that's a political decision, that's a political decision. We're going to stab it. This is why President Trump had such a run at the Supreme Court. And I think even this lower level federal judges realizing they're either going to be overturned at appellate court and or overturned at the Supreme Court understands that our interpretation during those years in the wilderness of the inherent powers and stated powers of the Presidency under Article 2, remember we call it the unitary theory of the executive. Or as the war room posse corrects me all the time, no Steve, that's just the art. It's just called Article 2. You can, you don't have a fancy title for it that he's the chief executive officer of the United States, therefore he can hire who he wants and he can fire who he wants. He's also that the appropriations bill, which is a law, is a ceiling, not a floor. And so therefore he can impound money, he can do pocket rescissions, he can take it back to the Hill for rescissions, package and a vote. He can do all that. But as the chief executive officer of the United States government It is his decision to make the vesting clause and the people overall have made their decision about him. As chief executive number two, he's the commander in chief of the armed forces, and therefore he has the inherent powers of the commander in chief and particularly in times when he thinks the nation is threatened. As you know, President Lincoln, who was dealing with an insurrection, I might add, at the time Lincoln was dealing with it up until the time of the shot at, the shots at Fort Sumter, it was much less radical than it is now. You didn't have whole major cities declaring sanctuary cities and that they were above. They were above anything to deal with federal power. What he's dealing with is, first off, he's dealing with an invasion of 10 to 15, 20 million people. Think of the scale of that. They continue to try to downplay it. And it was organized. It was organized by them. And we now know what lawbreakers they are, how lawless they are. Given the issue about the auto pin, and particularly it's not the pardons. The pardons are one element of it, of course, they're terrible. It's the executive orders. Mainstream media doesn't want to talk about that. Then you got the Arctic Frost, where they're coming after people over and above January 6th, just to destroy the MAGA movement. What 55 people identified, they were moving on, on all kind of potential charges. Didn't find anything but another, I think another 111 on deck. They're lawless. They're completely lawless. And yes, we are. It is a maximalist strategy and seize the institutions and do it with urgency. Urgency. Do it today. We're burning daylight. So you've got the chief executive power, you have the commander in chief power, and that's to repel an invasion and to repel the invaders. That's what President Trump's doing and calling out and I think there ought to be more National Guard called out and they want to go to places like Portland until they clean out the mess and they should stay there till they clean out the mess and they should go to Chicago. They should stay there until they clean out the mess and ice. And it's great. Ben Berkram got footage. I think we'll try to play, if we can grab Ben. Ben's got amazing footage today of guess what, A raid that scales up. I think it's over to Home Depot. Last but not least, and the one that drives him crazy is because they've controlled this for so long, since Richard Nixon was driven from office. Think about that over Watergate. Are you kidding me? President Trump is the chief magistrate and the chief law enforcement officer of the United States government main justice for all you Biden holdovers in the permanent part of the administrative state that Pam Bondi can't get rid of. Suck on that. He's the man in charge. This is why we're calling for a special counsel that will report to the chief magistrate and the chief law enforcement officer directly into the Oval Office, into the office of the presidency. They're whining non stop, as my mother would say. I'm gonna give you something to whine about before you got the old what for. No whining in the war room. No crying in the war room. No tears and no pity. We need a maximum strategy right now. Julie Kelly is going to join us. She got some breaking news. She's actually going to be in the house. Julie Kelly is going to be in the house on a Tuesday. We're getting ready. 10pm tonight. Join us here in Real America's Voice, the War room as we're going to do live coverage of the historic meeting between President Xi and President Trump. Should say Dictator Xi because that's what he's a dictator. Or the chairman of the Chinese Communist Party. Pick him. Historic Geostrategic. If you'd like that a little late in the evening, put on a pot of Warpath coffee late. Join us at 10. Natalie Winters, Jack Bosovic, Alex Jones.
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Of the newfound okay, interest rate cut today. Big pop the market thing, it backed off. Find out what gold is doing vis a vis all of this. Cuts in interest rates, geopolitical politics. This huge event tonight with the president. Take your phone out, text Bannon Bannon O N 989898. Get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. Most importantly, talk to Philip Patrick and the team about owning physical gold. They've got all the methodologies, 401ks IRAs, all of it. The most sophisticated company out there. But you want to talk to Philip Patrie. He's got a great analysis about where gold is and where gold is going. So make sure you check it out today. I want to put in perspective. First thing we're going to do here is get John Gardner. And John is the leader in this country of kind of this small manufacturing. He's saying we can have a renaissance and we don't need to be doing trillion dollars investments with foreign capital to build these mega plants. We can do it differently. And he's the advocate and the spokesman for the little guy that has these great manufacturing shops have, I don't know, 25 or 50 people in it and are the backbone of the country. John, we've been talking offline and you've been making this point that President Trump is doing something here that's historic, not just geopolitically but also economically in his quest to get peace throughout the world, whether it's in the Ukraine or the Middle east or around Taiwan. Walk me through your theory of the case, sir.
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Well, the post World War II rules based international order really created dependency for America. That's proven now. We've done the experiment. America can't make its own goods for its military. We're severely dependent on China for rare earth processing and minerals. What President Trump's trying to do with tariffs is to make America independent. You know, and one of the things that I see that he's doing that I don't think enough people are talking about and I really want. It's unique, it's novel. Creating peace by using tariff diplomacy. President Trump said, I'd rather fight with tanks or I'd rather fight with tariffs than tanks. He's using tariffs as a non kinetic warfare tool and with his Trumponomics plan. And I think that's so interesting because historically tariffs has been used to create revenue, external revenue, to protect the domestic manufacturing and to reach reciprocity agreements. But what President Trump's doing is he's taking our golden market, America's consumer goods, and saying if you want access to our market. If you want to be able to sell your goods here and make money, you will do as we say and stop these wars. And here's some specific examples. I had to write them down because it just went on and on. And I don't think. I don't think he's getting enough credit for this. And I wanted to live in his legacy and really, hopefully change the minds of some of these libertarians like Rand Paul and Thomas Massey, who stand against tariffs. But in Trump term one, he had China. He told China, hey, keep your pimp hand strong with your proxy North Korea and have them stop doing missile tests over Japan or else we're going to ratchet up the tariffs they did. He's told the eu, pay your fair share of NATO or we're going to tariff you higher. He had Mexico put troops on their border to stop illegal immigrants or they get tariffs. In Trump term two, we had Thailand and Cambodia. He said, hey, if you guys don't stop the fighting, I'm going to hammer you guys with tariffs. Peace then followed up India and Pakistan. You know, according to President Trump, he said, I'm going to hit you both with 200% tariffs if you don't figure this out within 24 hours. And magically the peace happened. And that is really a unique and novel tool way to use these. And I want to see the legacy media talking about this. One of the things that affects me personally was the Rwanda, Congo peace deal is a lot of minerals, a lot of rare earths in Rwanda and Congo. And they signed a peace deal in June of this year with President Trump promising to buy their rare earths and have other deals. But one of the, the minerals that's a critical mineral that America stopped mining in 2015 was tungsten carbide. You can see a piece of tungsten carbide here. And you do not have subtractive manufacturing if you do not have tungsten carbide. It's used to cut things. It's also used in the defense industry for armor piercing shells, and it's used in medical to shield radiation. It's used in welding, for the electrodes in welding. It's broadly used and we don't mine it. So President Trump said, hey, you want to sell your raw tungsten carbide dust to us, make peace, and we'll do that. I also see him in Australia getting rare earth deals and Korea having them help us build up our shipbuilding industry. And I see him out there, I don't think he's getting Enough credit. I saw in a segment yesterday, we talked about him traveling around the world is possibly angering some America first people. And I really, I think we need to look at what he's doing, how he's making these deals that will help us. Having Korea an ally, help us build our shipping building industry buys us time and geographic space. In warfare, as we are in economic warfare with communist China, time and space are very valuable. Like in June 1941, after Operation Barbarossa launched, the Soviet Union moved 2,500 of their factories to the eastern side of Russia. By the end of the year, by the end of 1941, they use that time and geographic space to reorganize to be able to produce the Russian military to fight back against Nazi Germany. I think right now President Trump is on his massive international geographic strategic tour to get the puzzle pieces in place for America. Shipbuilding, rare earths and creating peace while he's doing it. And I think he's not getting enough credit. And you know, you mentioned, Steve, that, you know, the entrenched Washington and maybe even international leaders view President Trump as a passing storm. And I believe his novel unique approach to using tariffs and deploying them for peace, I want that to live in his legacy because it was impressive to me and I don't think he's getting enough credit for it.
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By the way, the brilliance I love about this is that they're throwing terrorists back on the populist nationalist movement as really driving wars. And John Gardner is absolutely correct. I do want to go back and get some clarification of one point. You said the post war international rules based order tied America into a cycle of dependence. And President Trump's economic order with redoing the world's commercial relationships with trade arrangements around those commercial relationships that benefit American companies, the country of the United States of America plus American citizens. What did you mean by the first part that the post war international rules based order led to dependency of the United States? That was not healthy, sir.
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I'm so glad you asked that. Post World War II, Milton Friedman, free to choose capitalism, Freedom became the dogma of that. If you have no tariffs, unilateral free trade, that is somehow better for your nation, that is more freedom for your nation. But what they didn't calculate is that when your manufacturing is done overseas in communist China or in other nations, that you are then dependent on these nations for goods. And I don't think those academics do anything about manufacturing. In fact, I'll prove it in page 46 of Free to Choose. Milton Friedman said it is inconceivable that complete free trade in steel would destroy the US Steel industry. However, look at the uk, the nation that the industrial revolution started in. They almost closed their very last steel mill and the whole nation this year had to be saved by the government. So it is conceivable also, I don't think they understood manufacturing because he mentions that it would be better and easier to stockpile steel and maintain steel plants and mothballs. Direct quote, now stockpiling steel. We use 85 million tons of steel a year. What about copper, aluminum and the mothball plants? You can't have people coming out of Walmart and Starbucks working where molten lava is being poured. So I just don't think Milton Friedman would have liked getting surgery from a surgeon who had maintained his skills in mothballs. They didn't understand that manufacturing is something that must be kept in constant practice. It is a practice. It is an experiential, experience based thing and you have to do it to be good at it and proficient at it. And that mindset is something I wrote my book for. The number one reason I wrote my book was to be used as a tool to change the Rand Paul's, to change the minds of Thomas Masseys and these libertarians who are just no tariffs, no tariffs, no tariffs. I wrote my book to be a tool, to have them start to question what has unilateral free trade done to us and how has it made it dependent on us, a dependent nation? And I think if we can start to question that and the universities and the academics can start to look at it and it's on the conservative side. I talked to a guy from Hillsdale and big Trump fan. Hillsdale's a great conservative college and he's like, I love President Trump, but I just will never do tariffs. I was like, why? Why? Why won't you ever? He said, well, I learned in Business Class 101 that Milton Friedman said they're bad. And I think that I would like to start for Trump, President Trump's legacy and for America first. I believe in free trade within America's borders. Here's how. We don't have free trade. If I sell to say a company Within California puts $1,000 purchase order in with me. Well, they have to pay $1,100. They have to pay $100 sales tax, 10%, but they buy that same good from communist China. They don't have that sales tax. I believe in free trade within our borders, but if you want access to our golden market, you have to pay and how the post World War II rules based international order basically crippled us is they did not understand manufacturing what it takes to keep it here within a nation and how it is the backbone of importance for nation and national security and the middle class and how we keep our consumer market that people want to get into is to rebuild our middle class through manufacturing. And that's a big concern I see coming on is the shrinking of our middle class.
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Yeah John, just hang on for a second. I'm a hold you over. Julie Kelly is going to join us. We're going to get into all this fight with the deep state. She may actually have a scoop or two to break here. Gardner's right. They did not appreciate the power of manufacturing. You know who did? The Chinese Communist Party. That's where they took it. With Wall street in the corporatist helping him. We're still dealing with that and we'll deal with it tonight at 10pm.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay, welcome back. John Gardner is going to join us tonight. 10:00pm Eastern Daylight Time to 1:00am Eastern Daylight Time. Special presentation by Real America's Voice and the War Room. We're going to have Natalie Winters, Alex Jones, Jack Bosovic, Brian Kennedy, John Gardner and more. We'll announce more as we get up Tonight, but it's going to historic meeting between Xi and President Trump with geopolitical implications. Gardner, we're gonna keep you wanna hear more of John Gardner's brilliance? Cause you guys already text me during the break. Who is this guy? He's brilliant. Of course he's brilliant. We only have Brian on the war room. Gardner, what are your coordinates? People? Get your social media, particularly your brilliant book that is always promoted, always promoting manufacturing of the little guy.
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Manufacture local. How to Make America the Manufacturing Superpower of the World is the name of my book. I'm on accident. John Gardner V. O h. My website's johngardnerauthor.com and it's about to get a major upgrade and I'm on getter at mfg. Gear official. And yeah, I have a lot more to say about that post World War II rules based international order. When you have time, Steve.
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We'll talk about tonight. John Gardner is going to join us. 10:00pm Eastern Daylight Time to 1:00am this historic meeting in South Korea between the President, states and the dictator that runs the Chinese Communist Party. It ought to be. This is important because of chips, Taiwan, trade, geopolitics, all of it. John Gardner, thank you so much. See you tonight.
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Thanks for having me. See you tonight.
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Pretty powerhouse. Natalie Winters. Alex Jones. Jack Posovic. Fantastic. Oh my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Special alert in the war room. Coming out of hair and makeup for real. Nice tan, not too shabby. You've been down in Florida?
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No.
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Okay.
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Sorry.
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Okay.
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Just too much makeup.
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No, you look like a man.
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High blood pressure. I don't know.
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Last time I saw you, you and I were walking into Main Justice.
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Yes, we were.
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And they tripped the alarm. Okay, you've got. I think I know where you're back here. You're like a dog with a bone. Julie Kelly gets on something, you're going to take it to the bitter end. Tell me what you've been working on.
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So, Steve, I just posted and I'm breaking here on my substack, declassified with Julie Kelly, our latest installment with my crack researcher, Haley MacLean, our next piece on the suspicious circumstances surrounding the RNC pipe bomb. Now, we posted a piece on Monday you and I talked about that. Talks about all the inconsistencies in Carlin Younger's story. But Steve, the biggest inconsistency that we discovered, and this has been part of a key part of her story all along, is that when she discovered the device at 12:40 on January 6, that a timer, a hand on the timer, was set to for 20 minutes, meaning it was going to detonate 20 minutes later at 1pm, which just happened to be the start of the joint session of Congress.
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Wow.
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Here's a bigger wow.
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Okay.
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There was no hand on the timer. Right. So in my piece, what we go through is. And I had a timer. I even got it on Amazon. I was going to bring it for my stunt prop.
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C
That's okay. We have static display.
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So you, anyone who's familiar with using a kitchen timer. So it has the turn knob zero through 60. This is the timer that was used in the two devices.
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Like an egg timer.
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Right. It's a kitchen timer. Right, Right. But it's housed in a separate main unit where all the components are. But there's a red arrow. That's where you set the time and then it ticks away from there. The dial that has a 0 through 60 hash marks on it is a fixed dial. It's fixed between 0 and 30. And I have this in our piece of. People want to see that. You could see right there, only the front dial of this timer and some of the components underneath were attached to the device. There was no way for Carlin Younger to determine in any way, shape or form that there were 20 minutes left on that device because the only thing on the front of the device was this dial. The red, the casing, the frame of the timer that has the red mark, which actually counts down all the time, had been removed. So there was no way for her to determine that any time was left on this timer. It was only the face of the timer that acted as the. As the grip.
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I realize you're out and you're doing this investigation because the pipe bomb thing. Darren Beatty, yourself, you guys been off from the beginning because something didn't feel right. Especially, however, didn't she already tell this information to people who are professional investigators? And shouldn't they have put two and two together before? I don't know. Five years, Is it five years, Four years later? Five years, Five years later, Julie Kelly back, coming back. And five years later, before she comes to the war room and writes her piece, finds it isn't that suspicious.
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It is highly suspicious. And furthermore, Steve, the documents that were released by the new select committee on January 6th, that's headed by Barry Loudermilk, he obtained the records related to Carlin Younger's two contacts with the FBI. That's what we wrote about on Monday on my sub stack D classification with Julie Kelly. She off. She sent in an online tip saying that she was the one who discovered it and then sat down with agents on January 11th where she repeated the 20 minute timer story. So not only did she tell FBI investigators this, she also told the news media in subsequent report, in subsequent interviews. The problem for the FBI and for everyone involved in especially the current FBI is that the assessment that we based our conclusions on the report was conducted investigative report into the device at Quantico and was finished on January 13th of 2021, 48 hours later after she talked with. Yes. So the FBI has known all along that her story about a 20 minute timer on the RNC device indicating or what she suggested is that that bomb was set to detonate at 1 o'. Clock. She found it at 12:40, it was set to detonate at 1 o' clock just as the joint session of Congress convened a few blocks away. So her story now has completely unraveled, collapsed under all the evidence of her FBI contacts and also her news media interviews.
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Is it strange credulity to think that a sophisticated FBI investigator, particularly Quantico, where they have I guess all those labs and stuff could have not seen what you saw?
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No. They are the ones who said as they piece together this device and they even purchased the timer that they believed it was this mainstays kitchen timer. They even purchased one and disassembled it and tried to reconfigure the devices both at the DNC and the rnc. So they knew, they knew that because that grip twist and you could see it again right there, that is the device that was allegedly found at the RNC when she was going to do her laundry in the middle of the day, et cetera, et cetera. So but they've known that that grip twist which only turns the plastic, it's a plastic dial, doesn't move. So the only thing that would have indicated a time would be that mainframe unit that was non existent. So why did she say that there was a 20 minute timer when it didn't exist to perpetuate this narrative that bombs were going to explode as a joint session convened.
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And why did the FBI not publicize that at the time and make a big deal about it?
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I have no idea.
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Correct me if I'm wrong and far be it from war room to point the finger to anybody that shouldn't have the finger pointed to them. But Ms. Younger's testimony is problematic. I guess in litigation they say we have some bad facts here.
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We have some inconsistencies here.
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So tell me about that. Now I understand you kind of subtly said something the other day. I Kind of picked up on because I go, I guess Julie's, I guess she's, she's messaging us somehow. What it. This is pretty glaring, is it not?
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It is extremely glaring. Start with kind of this suspicious story of a woman who's working from home on January 6th. She is working for FirstNet, so she is already tied to law enforcement. FirstNet is the kind of public private partnership she was working for the Department of Commerce. And what FirstNet does is oversees broadband. And this will be a follow up story overseas. Broadband for first responders for emergencies and disasters. All of a sudden at noon, as the President starts his speech at the Ellipse, Carlin Younger decides she's going to go do her laundry because why not? Because who doesn't do their laundry on a momentous day in freezing temperatures, 20 mile an hour winds, and just happened to walk first in front of the Capitol Hill Club? There's that alleyway, you're very familiar with it, right next to the rnc. Just walks through that alleyway at noon to do her first load of laundry. And then it's a communal room, it's just this room for where her building is. So she goes into the basement, starts her laundry, walks back 12, 35, 36. Now this is someone really paying attention to their laundry. I mean, I do laundry, but I don't like time it. 36 minutes between rinse, wash, cycle to dryer. She is a pretty fastidious person. Maybe she really had to get it done before she had to, you know, log back in for teleworking. That's when she allegedly discovers the device, as you could see there sitting next to a garbage can and a rat trap. How appropriate is that? She alerts authorities, finally gets someone at rnc, a guard there, he alerts Capitol Police and the whole thing unravels, you know, then the whole thing is initiated from there. And that's by Steve. And this goes back to Arctic Frost. And I know we'll talk about that as well, because January 6th was and has been the predicate for this abusive, unconstitutional, unaccountable, sprawling investigation into the President and everyone around him in the entire MAGA movement. It's imperative that we get the truth about everything on January 6, starting with this pipe bomb, because that launched everything that day.
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Well, as Darren Beatty and you guys said five years ago, you think a half a decade. I know it was the dramatic nature of the pipe bombs at DNC and RNC that kind of kicked off the insurrection. Right?
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Well, think about the timeline of the discovery of this RNC device. And we have this in our piece. She's found it. She finds it at 1240 alerts authorities. They then divert Capitol Police to the RNC. 1253 the first exterior breach of the Capitol with raps right there. The first exterior breach happens 105 the devices found outside found I have to say found outside the DNC prompted by the discovery at the rnc. Just so happens Kamala Harris is there. Still don't know why.
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Random.
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So random. Lied about that for a year in court documents. The doj. Right.
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Totally random.
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So this really was the lit the match of January 6th and now that her story has completely collapsed and I think this lie about the hand on 20 minutes is the most suspicious part of her involvement and her account that involves other inconsistencies as well.
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Quite suspicious. We're going to hold you through. We got another segment I want to get all your thoughts on because you've been all over this. I want to get all your thoughts on Arctic Frost and other things are going on. It's been pretty intense. Birch Gold now more than ever you need Philip Patrick in the team. You've got End of the Dollar Empire is a good starter to kind of get you up to speed on. I don't know we talked about earlier the post war international rules based order. How about the underpinnings of that? Was the US Dollar as the prime reserve currency. It's under onslaught right now on a de dollarization move led by, wait for it, the Chinese Communist Party who were going to have a special at 10pm Eastern Daylight Time tonight. Birchgold.com promo code Bannon get to Philip Patrick and the team and do it today. Short break Julie Kelly is in the house.
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That happened, but all right, I'm going to send this.
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Okay, here we go. Julie Kelly, we, we got six minutes. I want to take a couple of minutes on Arctic Frost. Your thoughts.
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B
So there was just release 2000 more pages released today by Senator Grassley. There was a press conference on the Hill today. Senator Grassley, Senator Blackburn, Ted Cruz, other senators who are blasting, you know, Jack Smith's really unconstitutional pursuit of records by sitting lawmakers that as anyone knows, is covered by speech or debate clause. But that was of no concern to the DOJ and especially Jack Smith. So more documents being released as to I believe Chuck Grassley said Today close to 200 subpoenas that Jack Smith issued around 45 individuals and then about 145, 150 organizations and then by extension close to 4, 500 individuals who were then subjected to these subpoenas. Communications companies, financial institutions, et cetera, who they were seeking all of these records and communications with these groups and individuals and major companies, which Steve, raises the question and we talked about this in the J6 the J6er prosecution is why these companies voluntarily worked hand in glove to with the DOJ and FBI. Those companies also need bank of America cell phone companies who worked hand in glove with this DOJ to run roughshod over not just privacy rights but the Constitution to let this lawless thug and his goons, Jack Smith, J Brat, David Harbach, JP Cooney, Molly Gaston, who are now representing Jack Smith by the way, and others responsible for just and can we stop comparing this to Watergate? This has nothing to do with Watergate.
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What's 100 times bigger? A million million times?
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B
There's no comparison. So it's just like stop saying that there's no comparison to this in the history of this country anyway. Happens all the time in other countries, has never happened here.
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You also see the lawlessness in it's not the auto pin. It's just a lawless government who you don't know who's in charge, people making decisions and the signing of the executive orders. The pardons are bad enough, but the pardons of Pardons, the executive orders they would sign. Executive orders by an auto pin. To me, the unlimited liability of what these guys did and how they can be sued is outrageous. Your thoughts on that?
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Yes. I mean, look, you just go back to the fact they never thought that Donald Trump was going to win. They never thought they would get busted.
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If you look at the Arctic frost and the way the companies work with them, they thought that they were, this was it and this is how they're going to kill our movement and drive us into the ground.
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B
That's exactly right. And that, you know, that's what I wrote about in my book published now four years ago, January 2022, that they used it to launch a war of domestic terror against American citizens on the right. And we're learning more and more of it. I mean, I was even off base saying that. Who would have envisioned this?
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No, it's so incredible to Grassley, such a state, bare hands to shock him got pretty deep. But still, the key of this is when they caught him wire and tapping the Senate. When it got to the, when it got to the, you know, the vestal virgins in the Senate.
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Exactly right. That's what changed everything, you know, and it is frustrating to see US Senators who said nothing while their own constituents were being had battering rams used against their front doors and being awakened at 5:30 in the morning having armed agents point guns at children and elderly women. And to hear John Cornyn today say, if they did this to US Senators, us imagine what they could do to you. Well, John Cornyn, we tried to get your attention for years because Texas is second only to Florida in the number of J6 defendants. And you know how many times he went to his own constituents defense?
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It'd be zero. None, none, zero. He's a terrible guy. Quickly, Loudermilk, you're spending a lot of time with this. He just got authorization to do this. Do you anticipate some, because I mean, if you're going to go redo J6, you should be at that committee. You should be able to see everything, right?
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Yes, exactly. So I spoke with him a few weeks ago. He is putting together, they just got authorization for the new committee staffing up. He's got a full agenda. The pipe bombs, it is towards the top of that list. So I really believe that he will be digging into that as well.
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Are you going to go to a special, are you going to be a special advisor to that committee or to Main justice, ma'? Am?
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No.
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Okay. I may recommend.
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Why would I do that?
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Because you're the person that knows more about this.
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They can just. They can subscribe to my stuff. Eight bucks a month. That's my payment.
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Where do people go to get your.
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Content declassified with Julie Kelly on substack axe Julie, underscore Kelly 2. And then I also have some work on Real Clear Politics, Real Clear Investigations.
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Your last name is Kelly, but that's not your maiden name. What's your maiden name?
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Copeland.
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Okay. Different. Okay. And that's the English, I guess.
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Yes, it is.
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No, because full on wasps. Full on wasps. I knew something, because she comes in here and what she's saying, the University of Florida is giving her a smack. My producer. And she goes, you know, I am convinced that the University of Florida is more obnoxious even than Notre Dame. And coming from Chicago, I realized you had to be a wasp.
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Yes, well, let's not talk about Notre Dame. But I know enough Domers, and now I know enough gators because my daughter works now in Florida. That. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Kim. I'm so sorry.
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Mike Lindell, you've been. You've had the boot on your neck from these guys. Arctic Frost. The committee, sir, because you're an insurrectionist. What do you got for us? Well, and by the way, Alison Steinbeck, my great reporter, got her question in today about Arctic Frost. And yes, we were debating. You name it, they called our vendors, they attacked us, took my cell phone, Arctic Frost. I mentioned them there so many times, and there was such a big attack. And by the way, Steve, she also got a question in with Bernie Sanders. That's a lot like the other day when she asked your question and upset Pelosi. So that should maybe go viral today. But everybody, we've made it through. And in spite of the machine company, a lot. Fair. And in spite of Arctic Frost, and we're still here. You guys, get the USA Made specials. You guys, we're putting all of our made in USA stuff on sale up to 80% off. That's the. My pillows go to my pillow. Pillow.com forward/war room. You guys are going to get the pillows, the mattresses, the bed frames, all of this. The body pillow free body pillow case. With that, the blowout sale on The My Pillows 1498. The Mattress Toppers on sale with free shipping. Use that promo code War room Made in America socks. You guys, we have all these different products made in the usa. We put. Put them all on sale with promo code war room. Call 800-873-1621062 and you guys will get a USA worker a USA person speaking in English taking your order using promo code War Room Brother thank you so much. We'll see tomorrow morning in the 10 or 11 o' clock hour having decided Mike Lindell the most powerful promo code in the business. MyPillow.com promo code worm go check it out today Brother thank you so much. Julie Kelly One more time quickly. Where do people go to your substacks?
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JulieKelly2 I'm going to be looking at those documents tonight and tomorrow posting some of the more interesting ones and then Real Clear Politics Investigation Perfect.
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Listening to the News Agents on America.
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America's number one podcast network, iHeart.
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Open your free Iheart app and search the newsagents to start listening.
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I'm Rodney Williams.
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And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the wealthbreak podcast, a real conversation about finance.
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Let's be honest, building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone.
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I feel like sometimes being broke is a cycle and that we might have.
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To revisit that and we're not stopping at success stories.
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What happens when it doesn't go right? How do you cope with it?
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Because wealth isn't just about money.
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It's about creating a life where you.
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This is an iHeart podcast.