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Interviewer/Host
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Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon
This business about you not treating employees properly because I served under the previous administration when Democrats willingly turned a blind eye to Biden administration retaliation against my whistleblowers, they didn't get due process when their careers and lives were upended. I'm talking about people like Dina Perkins, Jeffrey Veltri, Timothy Dunn were removed from their positions. Several whistleblowers were reported that they targeted FBI employees for their political beliefs by suspending and revoking security clearances. One FBI whistleblower said that Perkins, Vetri Dunn and other FBI leaderships were, quote, responsible for what happened to me and my family. Ensuring that they no longer work at the FBI isn't retribution, it's responsible leadership. Another whistleblower that is a registered Democrat said they spoke out against abuses and security clearances processes committed by FBI senior leaders, particularly Veltri and Perkins. Then Veltri Then Perkins and Dunn suspended their security clearances and put them in unpaid leave. I'm going to put some more examples like this in the record, so I don't take up a lot of time for my colleagues. You're watching the War Room. This is the Senate Judiciary Committee grilling of Cash Patel, the FBI Director. We're going to follow this. A lot of news going on this morning. We'll jump out of this maybe momentarily. Let's go back to it.
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Donald Trump
How to be an FBI agent.
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Interviewer/Host
You made a decision that local law enforcement folks, people who've served in law.
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Steve Bannon
Enforcement without a college degree, are able.
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Interviewer/Host
To apply now, is that correct? Yes, sir. Makes sense to me.
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Steve Bannon
So experience out in the field might.
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Interviewer/Host
Be as valuable as the college degree, believe it or not.
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Steve Bannon
Venezuela.
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Interviewer/Host
We're blowing boats out of the water in the Caribbean.
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Donald Trump
Hang on.
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Steve Bannon
Because they're connected to international narco terrorist groups, is that correct?
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Interviewer/Host
Yes. That mission is being led by the.
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Steve Bannon
Department of Defense, sir.
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Donald Trump
Okay.
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Steve Bannon
What legal authority do we have to do that?
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Interviewer/Host
Sir, I would defer the questions on legal authority to the Attorney General and the Department.
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Donald Trump
Fair enough.
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Steve Bannon
Do you believe that Maduro runs a narco terrorism state in Venezuela? Based on.
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Interviewer/Host
I believe based on the intelligence and prosecutions and investigations we are currently running a large portion of the cocaine that exits out of South America. Its origination point is in Venezuela. And using transshipment points through Haiti, they're using the navigable waterways in the Caribbean to the end state delivery, which is the United States of America. And we will hunt down every single one of those narco traffickers with the authority.
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Steve Bannon
There's some actual indictments of Maduro as.
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Interviewer/Host
An individual for being involved in that. Is that correct, Senator? I think you're referring to the DEA indictment on that one.
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Donald Trump
Right. So I guess the point is, would.
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Interviewer/Host
It be fair to say that Venezuela.
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Donald Trump
Is a good candidate to be labeled.
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Interviewer/Host
As a state sponsor of terrorism under US Law? Senator, from. From my perch, we will provide the intelligence necessary for anyone who meets the threshold to be a state sponsor of terrorism in this administration.
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Steve Bannon
I think they are. So we' be going down that road.
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Interviewer/Host
China. On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being nothing, 10 being great, how's.
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Donald Trump
China helping with the fentanyl problem Here.
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Interviewer/Host
In the United States under this administration? We have taken, as I highlighted, the Cincinnati case. The precursors are the problem. The fentanyl is the end state that kills American citizens.
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Steve Bannon
Precursors are made in China.
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Interviewer/Host
They're made in China. And so for the first time in a decade, I had a Call with my counterpart in the mps, the Ministry of Public Services, to attack the precursor chemical companies and have those labels. Have those chemicals labeled.
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Steve Bannon
It's too early to rate the success.
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Interviewer/Host
We have indicted multiple businesses in China. We've also cut off the transshipment points of those precursors. They switched. Once we got on their track about their delivery routes to the Mexican drug cartels directly, they started going to India. We call the Indian authorities and they shut down those transshipment points. So we're continuing to work with partners. China is helping. Would you say they are starting to help?
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Steve Bannon
We're going to go back to. We're going to monitor, particularly the Democrats. We're going to monitor Cash's updates on the assassination. There was also some questions early on. I'm not sure the early show got it about the Epstein files. And we'll play that also. Let's go. The president states is en route to the United Kingdom. He's going to have a state visit at Windsor and Checkers. Somehow I thought it was Chartwell. He was going to Churchill's house. No, he's going to the house of the country house. The prime minister not going to London. In fact, not going within 25 miles of London. Think that's a big tell. The president did a gaggle. We're going to take it in its entirety. Let's go to the gaggle. The press availability the president had before leaving the White House. Let's go ahead. We're going to play it in its entirety. Let's hit it.
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Donald Trump
Well, we're going to see what happens. Because I hear Hamas is trying to use the old human shield deal. And if they do that, they're going to be in big trouble. They're going to be in big trouble. They put it out two days ago that they're going to use the hostages as human shields. That's something that has been done for a long time. You know, let me tell you, if they do that, they're in big trouble. Do you believe the Federal Reserve is an independent body?
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Interviewer/Host
What do you think about the independent?
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Donald Trump
Oh, it should be. It should be. But I think they should listen to smart people like me. I think I have a better instinct than him. If you look, all the economists got it wrong. I got it right along with one other people out of 100. So they should listen to people that are smart. Nothing wrong with that. But they have to make their own choice. But they should listen. Did you speak to a Prime Minister Netanyahu?
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Interviewer/Host
No idea about the idea of Israel beginning this ground Offensive in Gaza City. Do you support that?
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Donald Trump
Well, I have to see. I mean, I don't know too much about it. I can tell you that if they put the hostages in front of them, Hamas as protection, they call them bodyguards. Hamas is going to have hell to pay. Your trip to the uk, Your trip to the UK today, what do you hope to achieve? Well, my relationship is very good with the UK And Charles, as you know, who's now king, is my friend. And it's the first time this has ever happened where somebody was honored twice. So it's a great honor. And this one's at Windsor. They've never used Windsor Castle for this before. They use Buckingham Palace. I don't want to say one's better than the other, but they say Windsor Castle is the ultimate. Right. So it's going to be nice. But basically they're also on trade. They want to see if they can refine the trade deal a little bit. We made a deal and it's a great deal and I'm into helping them. Our country is doing very well. We've never done this well. We're making. We're having trillions of dollars coming because of the tariffs. They'd like to see if they could get a little bit better. So we'll talk to them. But primarily it's to be with Prince Charles and Camilla. They're friends of mine for a long time, long before he was king and it's an honor to have Ms. King. And, you know, he's. I think he represents the country so well. I've watched. He's such an elegant gentleman and he represents the country so well. After Robert Redford passed away today, did you hear about this? Wow. Sleep at his home. Well, that's a good way to go, I guess. But I'll say Robert Redford was great. He had a. He had a series of years that he was. There was nobody better. This just happened, I guess. Huh. Wow. The guy that called him Utah, what movie would you say you liked the best in? Well, you have a lot of them. Honestly, he made. I'd say he made seven or eight great movies. They were really great. There was a period of time when he was the hottest. I thought he was great on TikTok. Well, TikTok goes dark.
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Interviewer/Host
Are you gonna delay the TikTok fam?
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Donald Trump
Well, we have a deal on TikTok. I've reached a deal with China. I'm going to speak to President Xi on Friday to confirm everything up. We made a very good trade deal and I hope good for Both countries, but a very different deal than they've made in the past. What companies are going to be announcing that? We have a group of very big companies that want to buy it. And, you know, the kids wanted it so badly. I had parents calling me up. They don't want it for themselves. They want it for their kids. They say if I don't get it done, they're in big trouble with their kids. And I think it's great. I like. I hate to see value like that thrown out the window. So, on auto. Thank you. So auto executives, you know, you're talking about tens of billions of dollars.
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Interviewer/Host
Some auto executives are concerned that compromising the 15% for auto tariffs coming in hurts American automakers.
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Donald Trump
What do you say to. Well, I haven't compromised anything. Where did I compromise? Going down to 15%. Going down to 15%. We charged well. And where did the 25 come from? It came from there. Just so you know, they paid. Not for years. Now they're paying 15%. And some things can pay more. Like chips could pay more. Pharmaceuticals could pay more. You know, there's a bigger margin with a car, you have to make 15% before you make a profit. Pretty tough. So we had a good deal. Don't forget, European Union is paying our country, because of tariffs, $950 billion. Think of that. We're talking about a year. $950 billion. Japan is paying us 650 billion dol. These. These are countries that paid us nothing until I came along. And China's paying us a tremendous tariff. You know what the tariff is, right? You know what the tariff they're paying what? Yes. So it's 30% for the fentanyl as well as whatever for the 301, 20% for the fenol. But the overall is about 55%. Okay, that's as opposed to nothing. Would you say that's a difference? We have a big decision coming up, and if the Supreme Court rules the way, hopefully they will, because, I mean, every legal expert said, we win that case, but you still have to watch. And the Supreme Court's been terrific. I think they're very fair. All I want is fairness, and we win. But if we win the Supreme Court case, which is the finalization of tariffs, we will be by far the richest country anywhere in the world. And we'll be able to help our people more and we'll be able to help other countries when we want to. I will say, if we win that case, our country, you see what we've taken in just on a temporary basis, we've taken in trillions of dollars. Trillions with a key. And we will be by far the richest country in the world. There'll be nothing close. You know, one other thing. We'll have tremendous power to negotiate the use of tariffs. I settled seven wars. Four of them was because I was able to use tariffs. Hopefully, you'll get the inter. The fact that some CEOs make hundreds of times more in salary than average workers. He's worried about polarization. Do you share that concern? Well, I do say there's a big gap. I do say that. Don't forget I'm a popularist. There is a big gap. Mr. President. Mr. President, it's been a month since you. A month on. Do you think that meeting accomplished what you. Yeah, accomplished a lot. But it takes two to tango also. You know, those are two people, Zelensky and Putin, that hate each other. And it looks like I have to sit in the room with them because they can't sit in the room together. There's great hatred there. But no, that meeting accomplished a lot.
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Interviewer/Host
Mr. President, you have complete confidence in Cash Patel.
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Donald Trump
What are you hoping, Tom, for his.
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Interviewer/Host
Testimony on the ultimate.
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Donald Trump
Well, first of all, I think that Pam Bondi has done an unbelievable job and everybody agrees with that. And Cash, you know, if you look at. Take a look at what he did with respect to this horrible person that he just captured. He did it in two days. It took other similar cases is four days, five days, four years. If you look at circuit shooters. Now, I have confidence in everybody in the administration, my administration, and a lot of people are saying it, not just me. It's so far the best administration ever formed. You look at our financial people, our country is making a fortune. We have to keep tariffs because our country has become successful because of tariffs. We have the case in the Supreme Court. That's a very vital case for the success of our country. It's very vital to negotiate with other countries. And remember, other countries charge U.S. tariffs. That's a very, very big case. And if we win that case, our country will be by far the richest country anywhere in the world. And then we can help our people. We'll get rid of debt. We'll get rid of everything. We can help our people and we can even help other countries where they need it. Mr. President, narcotics in Venezuela. Narcotics in Venezuela. President Maduro in Venezuela says that you're getting ready to invade his country.
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Interviewer/Host
What is his message to.
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Donald Trump
Well, I would say this right away. Stop sending trend into the United States. Stop sending drugs into the United States. We knocked off actually three boats, not two, but you saw two. And the problem is there are very few boats out in the water. There are not a lot of boats out on the water. I can't imagine why. Not even fishing boats. There's nobody. Nobody wants to go take a fish. So it's one of those things. But I would say to them very strongly, stop sending people from your prisons into our country. They're sending their prisoners. They've done that already. So the numbers just came out another month with zero people getting into our country. And these are figures, John, with people like you that would like me to do badly. Nobody has ever done on the border like I've done. Mr. President, what will you tell President.
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Interviewer/Host
Zelensky if you meet with him in New York?
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Donald Trump
Well, he's going to have to get going and make a deal. He's going to have to make a deal. Zelensky is going to have to make a deal. And Europe has to stop buying oil from Russia. Okay. You know, they talk, but they have to stop buying oil from Russia. Mr. President, there are some things regarded to be the wealthiest man who's ever occupied the White House. How much wealthier are you now than when you return to the White House? Well, I don't know. The deals I made for the most part, other than what my kids are doing, you know, they're running my business. But most of the deals that I've made were made before. And that's what I've done for a life. I'm still building, like I'm building a building here. You know where I'm building. You know what. You see that area? Yeah. That is going to be the greatest ballroom anywhere in the world. And for 150. So it gives me pleasure to do it for the country. And I'm paying for it. I'm paying for it. And that's an expensive ballroom. I think it'll cost $250 million, and it will be, I think, the finest ball. So for 150 years, John, do you know this? They've wanted a ballroom, and now they're going to finally have it, and it's going to knock your socks off. That is an appropriate. That a president in office should be engaged in so much business activity. Well, I'm really not. My kids are running the business. I'm here. You know what the activity. Where are you from? I'm from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, Four Corners Program. The Australians. You're hurting Australia. Right. In my opinion, you are hurting Australia very much right. Now, and they want to get along with me. You know, your leader is coming over to see me very soon. I'm going to tell them about you. You set a very bad tone. Go ahead, John. You can set nice. The UAE does a deal. What in return? Mr. President, what are you hearing about the operation in Gaza, the Israeli operation? Are you concerned? Well, I'm hearing that they want to go in. And I'm also hearing that Hamas wants to take our 20 hostages, plus dead bodies. You know, they have about 32 of them and they want to put them in the way of any attack. And nobody's happy about that situation. It came out yesterday. I'm sure you saw that they want to. Supposedly they've taken the hostage out of deep caves and tunnels and they're bringing them, putting them on the front lines. Nobody's heard of that one for a few centuries. Saw that the UN said that Israel is guilty of genocide and have committed acts of genocide in Gaza. They voted on that. They have new report out saying multiple acts of genocide. When it comes to a vote, we'll see what happens. That'll come to a vote. So we'll see what happens. And what do you think Pam Bondi saying she's going to go after hate speech? Is that.
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Steve Bannon
I mean, a lot of people, a.
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Donald Trump
Lot of your allies say hate speech is free speech. She'd probably go after people like you because you treat me so unfairly and say you have a lot of hate in your heart. Maybe they'll come after ABC. Well, ABC paid me $16 million recently for a form of hate speech. Right. Your company paid me $16 million for a form of hate speech. So maybe they'll have to go after you. Look, we want everything to be fair. It hasn't been fair. And the radical left has done tremendous damage to the country, but we're fixing it. We have right now the hottest country anywhere in the world. And remember, one year ago, our country was dead. And now Washington D. Is fixed. And I fixed it. The mayor was fine. The mayor. The mayor was just fine. Okay? The mayor had the sick city for many years. He's been mayor for many years. The one that fixed it was me and my people. And it is so safe. You should take your beautiful wife tonight and have dinner down there. You won't be shot. You won't be accosted. You won't even be looked at incorrectly by anybody. Washington D.C. is safe. Now we're going to Memphis where it's pretty rough, to put it mildly. And then, then we're going to have to go. A friend of mine who is a big railroader, he stops in all the cities. He knows every city. He said, sir, you have to save Chicago. So I'm going to go to Chicago early against Pritzker. Pritzker. Pritzker is nothing. If Pritzker is smart, he'd say, please come in. So last week, over the last week And a half, 11 people in Chicago were killed, murdered, and 38 were shot. And then Pritzke. And by the way, this is going on constantly. If they lose less than six or seven people a week with murder, they're doing a great job. In their opinion, Chicago is a death trap. And I'm going to make it just like I did with D.C. just like I'll do with Memphis. Now, remember this? So a man comes into my office, one of the biggest businessmen. I'll tell you. He runs Union Pacific, is that big, biggest railroad in the world, I guess. And he started off as a railroader. He was running a railroad. A little caboose. He was in a caboose. Now he runs the whole damn thing. 45 years. He started off in a caboose. I don't know what that's all about. And he became the top. So that's a good place to start. But he came in, he knows the country intimately. He's looking to do a merger by another railroad, the one that work at the Living Problem in East Palace. And they want to buy that railroad, as you know, pretty public. But I sat with him and I talked. I said, so you know every city? Yes, sir, I go into every city and I have for 45 years. I said, where would you go Next? He said, St. Louis is in big trouble. Said, but Chicago is a great city. You can save Chicago, sir. Don't let Chicago die. This is a guy telling me with great knowledge and said, don't let Chicago die, sir. It's dying. Don't let it die. I'm going to Chicago next. The UAE. The UAE. Mr. President, what do you think they want when you do a deal with. Well, I just want something to happen. Whether it's federal states, most likely it's going to be state. The question is whether or not we overlap with a federal judge. So they're looking at that. But the state is very competent. The governor is doing a very good job. As you know, they have the death penalty. It's a tough death penalty too, as you know, but they have the death penalty. So as to whether or not we judge, we will be working with them. We May or may not be able to judge. When it comes to the governor of Utah, what do you make of his overall message of nonviolence? Well, I agree with it. I agree 100%. But most of the violence is on the left.
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Interviewer/Host
He said that social media is a cancer. Do you agree with that? The Utah governor said that social media is a cancer and more people should log off and take some time away.
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Donald Trump
Well, it's not a cancer in all respects. In some respects, it's great. But there are segments. There are deep, dark holes that are cancers. Absolutely. Beyond cancer. They're deaths. Well, that was a great decision. It was a rigged case to start off with. It's great. The court just ruled that she is a disaster. She's a disaster with a boyfriend. The boyfriend that she paid a billion dollars for his expertise, but he never did it before. Now, she should be prosecuted. She was a. What she did to people. Forget about me. What Fannie Willis did to innocent people. Patriots that love our country. What she did to them by indicting them and destroying. She should be put in jail. She's a criminal. Fanny Willis is a criminal. Will you apply more pressure to EU and NATO countries not to purchase Russian oil? I do, but here's the problem. You know the problem. They're purchasing Russian oil. I don't want them purchasing Russian oil. And they've got to stop immediately. Not fair to us. They're purchasing Russian oil, and we have to, you know, do things. Now, the nice part, we don't. It doesn't cost us anything anymore. You know that. They're paying. They are buying everything from us. Unlike Biden, who gave away $350 billion, we actually make money. But I don't want to make money. You know what I want? I want that war to stop. Because last week, 7018 people got killed.
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Interviewer/Host
Thank you. Targeted today. Just now.
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Donald Trump
You know?
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Interviewer/Host
70 patriots in Ukraine two months ago.
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Donald Trump
Where are you from? Ukraine. Y.
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Interviewer/Host
Will they come? And do you know when there will come the Patriots?
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Donald Trump
What will come?
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Interviewer/Host
The patriots. You announced 70 Patriots to Ukraine two months ago.
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Donald Trump
Look, let me just tell you. I love Ukraine. I love the people of Ukraine. That's why I thought that was a little Ukrainian accent. But the country's in serious trouble. It should have never happened. It's a war that should have never happened. The country's in very serious trouble. But I'm going to get it stopped. I've done seven. Seven countries. I've stopped seven wars in the last eight. It. I thought that would have been the easiest because I know Putin, but it's not because there's tremendous hatred between Zelensky and tremendous hatred between Zelensky and Putin. But we're going to get it stopped.
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Interviewer/Host
How soon will you go to the Supreme Court to stop Lisa, clothes.
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Donald Trump
Is.
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Steve Bannon
The president waiting for the first lens lady? They are heading out to Marine One. Let's hold that shot as long as we can. He just had a press available about 16 minutes. As you know, here in the war room, we love the president. We don't always agree. I think last night he was criticizing Governor Cox this morning, doing a great job. But that's, that's a, you should understand that's a President Trump throwaway line. A lot of information there in the press avail as President Trump, as President Trump talked on a range of topics, everything from the ballroom to, to the trip to the United Kingdom there they're getting on Marine One. They will go. In fact, they've already gone. Air Force One has left, but they're heading towards Andrew's Air Force base, not Joint Base, Andrew Andrews Air Force Base. There we are right there. President of the United States. He's very much, he's very much looking forward to this trip. But, but let's give her a little reality check here. The president's going to Windsor for the first time. The normally Buckingham Palace. He's going to Windsor, which I think is spectacular. The president is very excited. The customs and tradition of Windsor. He's obviously very close. He was very close to Prince Charles. That's a known fact. And I realize a lot of folks in this audience are not exactly big fans of King Charles, but the president's got a wide range, range of friends and associates, particularly from his life before he got into politics from Windsor. And they're going to have all kind of state functions there. I think they're going to, I think they're going to troop the guard. They're going to have a state dinner, which President Trump and the first lady I know are looking forward to the next day. He's not going to be at Churchill's Chartwell. He's going to be at Checkers, which is the traditional home country home of the, of the prime minister. And interestingly, when Churchill was out of power in the 30s of what they called the years in the wilderness, he actually set up at Chartwell. He bought a country place, Chartwell, quite beautiful that he really ran kind of a government in opposition. He was very much of a hawk about the Nazis and he was the guy that really called, it was a called shot about Hitler's rise to power. He was always right, but he was an outsider. He had very little political stroke. And then when he became prime minister he used checkers exclusively. I'm not so sure. He went back to Chartwell more than a couple times during the war and then afterwards it was really. Chartwell was his house. President Trump loves all that, loves the history of it. He'll spend it the next day at Check with Starmer. Starmer is on the ropes. I'm not sure a whole lot of politics is going to take take place. I mean Starmer is really, I think at 11% popularity it should be noted and this is why we've been such, we've been such hammers here about designating Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization or just a terrorist organization. You want to do a general terrorist organization, get into the international fans easier. It's a gateway into, in to getting this thing solved. Mangione was just the terrorism charges have been dropped. He's getting another, I think another Raymond today or additional Mangione items. Also we understand at 5 o' clock today the alleged assassin in the, in the assassination of Charlie Kirk will be arraigned in Utah, I believe now that was going to be Z. I don't know why. If he can't protect this guy against the. Was it the arm, what are they called? The Armed Queer Group is the official title of Utah. Then you might as well give it up. So that's going to happen at 5:00 Eastern Time today. We'll probably show that Cash Patel's getting grilled over by Democrats in the, in the, in the Senate Judiciary. And we're going to return, probably try to play as much as we can can particularly any nuggets coming on the assassination. The biggest news I think behind the scenes is to get this. You heard JD talk about it. He sat in for Charlie Kirk on the Charlie Kirk show yesterday. Had Stephen Miller come in. There's I think now a pivot, a whole government approach on these terrorist networks. And you're starting to see the mainstream media really start to yelp about this. Hey, to tough break. It's more than years that we should have gotten into this because they are terrorist networks and they need to be taken apart brick by brick. The first way you do that is investigations of every layer. The layer that is the foot soldiers, the layer that is the I think specialists, a lot of military specialists, maybe contractors in the layer that's the most important and that is the political operatives, the media figures there will be media figures rolled up in this and the money and where the, where's the money coming from? So a ton of controversy. On a Tuesday in September, the President United States is hurtling towards the United Kingdom for a state visit. He's going to return from that later in the week and then head out and be at Charlie Kirk's funeral ceremony or celebration of life, whatever is your preference, on Sunday. And we'll be covering that live as we're doing all the Charlie Kirk vigils, as many as we can grab short commercial break and return in the war room on an on fire Tuesday in a moment. Looking for a smarter choice for dental implants? Meet the Contact dental implant system from Biotech Dental. 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Interviewer/Host
Hey there. I'm Mary Katherine Hamm. And I'm Carolina Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time, long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started Normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen. Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year? I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship. That's there's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship. I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast. In case you missed it with Christina Williams, the WNBA playoffs are here and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind the scenes moments you won't find anywhere else. It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge that we have. For all the biggest stories in women's basketball, plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars. So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to you make it run. So listen to in case you missed it with Christina Williams and iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. House Plans Broad Crackdown on Liberal Groups they're saying now they will use the horrific murder of pro Trump activist Charlie Kirk last week as a justification for some undefined whole of government attack on what they always describe very vaguely as the left in this country. Just want to go back to the data and quote it accurately. This is from Cato. Again, right wingers are the second most common motivating ideology beyond Islamist ideology, accounting for 391 murders and 11% of the total. The definition here of right wing terrorists includes those motivated by white supremacy, anti abortion beliefs, involuntary celibacy and other right wing ideologies. A material support effort or campaign to go after the ideologies that lead to 11% of the murders and to investigate or come up with evidence for the other, which makes up 3%. I mean that's an extraordinary and dramatic and controversial thing to say, let alone do. But to just apply it to the side that they don't like when as you said, political violence has taken the lives of Democratic state representative in Minnesota just three months ago did severe damage to the husband of Nancy Pelosi. Gabby Giffords was shot. I mean it is not a problem that only has as its victims people on the right line like Charlie Kirk. What do you think? One of the tactic and two of narrowing it to one side. Yeah. So there's like legal issues and factual issues with all of this. And it does remind me of the summer of 2020 when you had similar comments made by the President and then Attorney General Bill Barr about considering sort of, you know, antifa and Black Lives Matter as terrorist or terrorist groups. First of all, there is no authority under U.S. law to designate domestic organizations as terrorist organizations. Foreign terrorist organizations is created by law. The criteria starts number one, foreign. It's got to be foreign, it's got to be a threat, have the capability and intent to commit terrorist acts and three be a threat to U.S. persons or U.S. national security. So you don't meet the foreign criteria. So it would require a new legal regime to even consider something like actual designation that would then trigger the criminal prohibition on providing material support to that designated group. But factually, you're exactly right. And I think this is why people have historically been nervous about creating new counterterrorism tools that would apply domestically. I have previously said we lack, and it remains the truth to this day, we lack a general domestic terrorism criminal offense. In the US code, you can. There are 50 some terrorism offenses, but the most common types of terrorism in the US Is a crime committed using a firearm, whether it's a mass shooting or assassination like we just saw. And unless you are associated with a foreign terrorist organization inspired by that foreign terrorist organization, are targeting a U.S. government official or U.S. property, use of a firearm is not going to be a terrorist offense. And I've at times pointed out this anomaly and the lack of moral equivalency. But I think that it would be. I think it would be very concerning to many people to create new tools. Now, when we see the factual disparity here, when we see the weaponization out of this Department of Justice and this present. Because what would those tools. What would those tools be used against? They'd be used against the disliked organizations, whether they actually pose the greatest threat or not. And that is completely antithetical to what Director Wray has testified about many, many times. It's also antithetical the way that the FBI prioritizes its work. It has threat matrix, right? And those greatest threats have the greatest resources. So, you know, I think factually and legally, these kind of comments are very concerning.
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Steve Bannon
You see, the problem today is with empathy.
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Donald Trump
And the problem that we see currently.
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Steve Bannon
In these last couple of days is the empathy is for the family and friends of the racist person. Does anybody hope that this man's children grow up to be like him or.
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Donald Trump
Continue his legacy and his work?
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Steve Bannon
Some people empathize because they are not good people themselves. He died disrespecting black people, so I.
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Donald Trump
Don'T care about him at all. The world is a better place without him.
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Steve Bannon
He gets what he deserves. He's getting what he deserves right now. And it makes me smile. Their tears make me smile.
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Interviewer/Host
Their anger makes me smile.
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Steve Bannon
Because they weren't crying when they see Palestinian children dying every single day when they lose their parents.
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Donald Trump
So why would I cry?
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Steve Bannon
Let them see how we feel. See how it feels for people to.
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Donald Trump
Not care about you at all. If you. If they want to help, tell their.
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Steve Bannon
Friends and family to stop being racist, then we'll stop being indifferent to whatever happens to them.
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Interviewer/Host
Charlie Kirk's killing the Trump administration is threatening now a crackdown on left wing and far left groups. The President is saying that he's now considering labeling the far left anti fascism group Antifa as domestic terrorists. Something actually the President had threatened to do before in his last term in 2020, but has yet, but clearly did not do at that time and is yet to do now. He was asked about this in the Oval Office. Do you plan on designating Antifa finally a domestic terror organization?
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Donald Trump
Well, it's something I would do, yeah. We have some pretty radical groups and they got away with murder. I've asked Pam to look into that in terms of rico bringing RICO cases against the criminal RICO because they should be put in jail.
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Interviewer/Host
So far, no evidence has emerged publicly that Charlie Kirk's alleged killer was working as part of any larger coordinated effort. The President has repeatedly and incorrectly though, said that the political. That political violence only comes from the left, downplaying violent attacks and rhetoric that span the political spectrum and also target Democrats just as well as Republicans. Jesse, we had one guy, a good.
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Steve Bannon
Friend of mine, who tried to talk to them, who tried to get them to listen to reason, and they killed him.
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Donald Trump
They killed him.
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Interviewer/Host
The. In cold blood.
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Steve Bannon
Charlie tried sitting down and having conversations.
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Interviewer/Host
And many people came, Thousands of people came.
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Steve Bannon
But there are a group of people.
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Interviewer/Host
In this country, Jesse.
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Steve Bannon
There is a, A social cancer, a cancerous ideology that has spread throughout this country. And I'm not just talking about the talking heads.
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Interviewer/Host
And, and yeah, there's.
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Steve Bannon
There's plenty of those as well. But we've seen it with average people. It's gone mainstream in so many ways to act as if they are completely dissociated with humanity. And what you said about shunning family members and canceling and censorship, that's where it started. And it ended with my friend shot on campus. Tap it in. Okay.
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Interviewer/Host
There.
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Steve Bannon
You see that? The. I could play. You know, there's so many positive vigils for Charlie. Jack Posobic sticking the landing right there. Do I have the other. Some other preachers were there too. Do I have that ready to go? Give me a thumbs up when it's ready. Also. And you see what the. And let's attach the. Let's attach. Let's attach the University of Alabama professor. What they're trying to do, the mainstream media is trying to say this is a lone wolf. This guy acted alone. There's no terror network. That's an absolute lie. From the Free Beacon to Neon Naomi Wolf to across the Board, you're seeing all these tweets and People in discord channels, they knew this was going to happen. They were talking about September 10th being such an important day. And this is why it needs to not just be investigated. We need to go after. And we have both of them together. We have the preacher, and we have. And we have. Okay, fine. We're going to play a couple more clips. Let's go and play it. Let's go and play them right now.
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Donald Trump
Charlie Kirk did not deserve to be.
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Steve Bannon
Assassinated, but I'm overwhelmed seeing the flags.
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Donald Trump
Of the United States of America at half staff calling this nation to honor and venerate a man who was an unapologetic racist and spent all of his life sowing seeds of division and hate into this land. And hearing people with selective rage who were mad about Charlie Kirk but didn't give a damn about Melissa Hortman and her husband when they were shot down in their home tell me I ought to have compassion for the death of a man who had no respect for my own life.
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Interviewer/Host
The suspect's roommate, with whom the alleged shooter had a romantic relationship, is transitioning from male to female. That is what Governor Cox has said. And the roommate, we should note, is cooperating with investigators. But the roommate's gender has sparked so much conversation. I know you're probably aware of this. How are you viewing this topic, and how should investigators be thinking about it? You know, I think the kind of simple explanation would be to say, well, the attacker in this case was upset by Charlie Kirk's comments about transgender issues. That. That would explain why Kirk was shot in the very moment he was shot, right when it came to what he was saying.
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Steve Bannon
And that would explain the motive of.
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Interviewer/Host
The perpetrator, as I think it's probably more complicated than that. Certainly there were potentially tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of people who would consider the things Charlie Kirk said to be upsetting. Very few engage in violence for that reason. And the fact that, you know, this suspect apparently did this without even the knowledge of his roommate suggests, again, that it was not some sort of, like, conspiratorial or collective effort, but rather the.
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Steve Bannon
Acts of a lone individual.
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Donald Trump
I am sorry, but there's nowhere in Bible where we are taught to honor evil. And how you die does not redeem how you lived. You do not become a hero in your death when you are a weapon of the enemy in your life. I. I can abhor the violence that.
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Steve Bannon
Took your life, but I don't have.
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Donald Trump
To celebrate how you chose to live.
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Interviewer/Host
I am.
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Steve Bannon
Overwhelmed. Okay, folks, I know it's been overwhelming. With the vigils and the prayer vigils, it's been nothing short of historic throughout the world. But understanding, going to a prayer vigil, unless you're signing up to fight this fight, you know, prayers are obviously very powerful and that people are having a great awakening, a spiritual moment, it's very, very powerful. But understand this. Just understand. Let me give you signal number. Not noise, the hate. That because they wanted to wait a day or two and they're trying to spin it that they're not guilty of anything. It's a lone wolf. Oh, and you know the roommate, he didn't know anything about it, but he's cooperating. He knew every. Trust me, that dude knew everything about it. Yes, he's a dude. Not some. Don't give me the transition. He's a guy, okay? He's a guy. A perverted, demented guy. And people got to start talking about the parents involvement here. I'm just saying. Also, Cox, your administration and I appreciate the president saying some nice things about you. Mr. President, we could not agree more. We could not agree more. The Cox administration's up to their neck and whatever this network is out in Utah and Cox has bought into this social, emotional learning. His wife is a big proponent of this. You are helping to ruin Utah. And people got to. What we're going to to use this platform is an open discussion of what's happening to Utah with these California folks moving in and the more traditional Mormons being overwhelmed. And this cuts to the heart of the Mormon Church and what's going on with the Mormons right now. So we ain't going to back off any of it, including. They're all domestic terrorists. Short break.
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Interviewer/Host
Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Ham. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time. Long enough to know that it's gotten. Gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started normalely a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen. Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year? I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship. That's. There's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship. I'm Kristina Williams, host of the podcast in case you missed it with Christina Williams. The WNBA playoffs are here and I've got the inside scoop on every everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind the scenes moments you won't find anywhere else. It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge that we have for all the biggest stories in women's basketball. Plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars. So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make a run. So listen to In Case youe Missed it with Christina Williams, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Dee Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Kill America's voice family.
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A little controversy about the CR. Wait for it, folks. Just embrace this one. A CR down to November past the 30th of September. And the President's pretty adamant about it. We're going to have Russ vote on here to tell us, give us some good news about rescissions, pocket rescissions, impoundments, how we're going to get away from these massive deficits. Anyway, birchgold.com, promo code Bannon enter the dollar empire. You get it all. It's all free. Free. Coming out shortly in a bound edition, but online free. You can download it all. Also for a guide, a quick quick and dirty on how to think about gold in the age of Trump. They've written the ultimate guide. It's also totally free. Text Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898-Wildwood and get to know Philip Patrick Grant. Philip Bonnet has so much going on with the assassination, the terrorist network. So, so much that we've had to push Philip for a couple days and getting back on the next couple of days, particularly since we're talking about CR now, you've got to go after the deep state. Where are the prosecutions? Remember, got tons of subpoenas backed up somewhere. I don't know. That coupled with that, that dual action proceeding on the deconstruction of the administrative state in the deep state, both by firings, downsizing, which we're fighting in court right now. President Trump's Article 2 powers, also investigations into Comey Brennan, all of them. I think that's slowing down a tad because I'm not so sure they got the lawyers to staff it anyway. I'm hearing about hundreds of subpoenas that are kind of in backlog. Then you've also got to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization. Let's get on with it. The reason they're so freaked out and you heard the response, well, you can't do it. Domestic terrorists, they don't want us to get to the part of the of the media complicity. Yep. There'll be major media figures. You got it in media platforms also. Not just source but a whole range of these foreign of these foreign billionaires, where their money came from and how it's gotten into the American political system, all of that. And teed up for prosecution and breaking apart. Time's a wasting. And I will tell you, President Trump is saying, Cox, you know, saying the nice things about Congress. That's fine. President Trump's got to do. He's President of the United States, President of all the people. Here's what the problem is. The comm shop or the White House got to deal with this. You're giving cover to those rhinos and establishment Republicans that haven't done anything for decades and decades and decades and don't want to do anything kind of. Cox is their new spokesmodel. Right. But they got Thom Tillis. All these guys understand what's going on here. They're just trying to wait Trump out. They're just trying to wait Trump out. They think once Trump's out, it'll all revert back to exactly what they want. So they want to wait Trump out. And you can see as plain as day. So we're either going to be a group hug and agree with. And the hate that's out there. I could play hours, hours and hours of the hate of a good and decent man, of Charlie Kirk. How many men in this country have lived a life of this guy and try to bring people together, as Jack Posovic said on Jesse Waters last night, went out of his way to be inclusive in the dialogue and tried to change people's mind through debate and through hearing them out in the most pleasant way possible and then coming back and debating and putting out additional facts. Charlie Kirk did that. And what did they do? They assassinated him. And don't think that was random. This is not the murder of just one man. This is a coordinated, deep conspiracy. And I think you'll find if we get to the terrorist designation, there'll be links on money and phone records, et cetera, and the Reddit channels. And all this back to Butler. The kid at Butler just didn't randomly one day say, you know, I hate Trump and I think I'm going to go assassinate him. Don't think that's just a random occurrence either, because it's not. And if you notice, we haven't seen a lot of pushing up on Capitol Hill to get this in front of anybody. Right. It's all coming from the outside. You have to put the pressure on the outside. When I talk about the cr. Talk about these deficits. War room called it. What did I say the deficit this year was going to be? This fiscal year, $2 trillion. It's coming in at 1.9 and I'm still holding out for my 2 trillion when they count it all. But right now on midnight on the 30th, I think it's a Tuesday, it's going to be 1.9 trillion. I'm still holding out that I was dead spot on the number. But we'll have to see. 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You want smart political talk without the meltdowns, we got you. I'm Carol Markowitz. And I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm. We've been around the block in media and we're doing things differently. Normally is about real conversations, thoughtful, try to be funny, grounded, and no panic. We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruling ruining your day. Join us every Tuesday and Thursday Normally on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Whatever team fee is on has a chance to win a championship. I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast. In case you missed it with Christina Williams, the WNBA playoffs are here and I'VE got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind the scenes moments you you won't find anywhere else. It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge that we have. So listen to in case you missed it with Christina Williams, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. This is an I heart podcast.