THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, SEPTEMBER 18TH, EP.# 4789

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon

Episode #4789 | September 18, 2025
Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Steve Bannon

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Overview

This episode dives into seismic shifts affecting American media, politics, public health policy, and global economics—all viewed through a strongly pro-Trump, populist lens. The murder of conservative activist Charlie Kirk and the subsequent cancellation of Jimmy Kimmel’s show after his comments about the tragedy ignite a fiery debate about media censorship, the “administrative state,” and the direction of American institutions. The episode also covers new vaccine policy developments at the CDC, surging gold prices amid global economic uncertainty, and tributes the late Boone Cutler, a veteran advocate who fought against the rising tide of veteran suicides.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Charlie Kirk’s Assassination, Conspiracies & Media Fallout

[00:04–07:08]

• Bannon and guests react to the assassination of Charlie Kirk; Bannon insists the attack was not an isolated incident but a symptom of a “vast conspiracy.”
• The alleged involvement of Antifa and NGOs is discussed. Bannon advocates designating Antifa as a terrorist organization to enable aggressive state action and investigation.
• On Jimmy Kimmel’s firing:
  • Discussants frame Kimmel’s removal as the beginning of a media purge, “two down, two to go”—referencing late night hosts.
  • Bannon takes credit, urging more pressure on other networks to cull anti-Trump voices.
  • Several guests and Bannon lambast what they see as left-wing hypocrisy on free speech, accusing media institutions of suppressing conservative voices but calling for protections only when their own are threatened.

"Jimmy Kimmel shut down because he tried to smear... the MAGA movement and really denigrated the memory of Charlie Kirk by lying like he does all the time."
– Steve Bannon [07:08]

• The cancellation is likened to media “purges” seen in Russia and Hungary, with guests warning of the chilling effect on dissent and free expression.

"It's not just cancel culture, it's way beyond that. It's trying to enforce essentially an ideological test... so that the only content they're seeing is aligned with Trump and his FCC director."
– Guest [02:20]

2. Battle with the Administrative State & Calls for 'Direct Action'

[07:08–20:03]

• Bannon outlines the show’s broader mission: “deconstructing the administrative state” and dismantling supposedly liberal institutions—the so-called “deep state”.
• The rhetoric is militant: “No debate, just action.”
• Bannon and guests push the analogy of a "color revolution" against populist forces, calling for a maximalist approach to seizing and cleansing institutions.
• There is explicit advocacy for weaponizing state power (through designations and executive orders) to root out opposition (NGOs, media, finance).

“You designate [Antifa] a terrorist organization, then all kinds of good things happen. You start subpoena [sic] telephone records, text messages. ... What’s good for the goose is good for the gander."
– Steve Bannon [18:53]

“If you want to avoid a civil war, it needs to be done today. Use the powers of the state. We happen to be in charge.”
– Steve Bannon [19:40]

• Celebration of the "state funeral" for Charlie Kirk as a marker of the “first” MAGA martyr.

3. CDC Shakeup & Vaccine Policy Debate

[20:03–29:54]

• Senator Paul (Clip) criticizes the scientific rationale for COVID vaccines in young children, highlighting the lack of proof on hospitalization or mortality reduction and discussing risks like myocarditis.
• Dr. Meryl Nass reviews the CDC's ACIP committee's recent moves to alter vaccine recommendations, specifically:
  • Separating MMR and Varicella vaccines at 12 months to reduce risk of childhood seizures.
  • Delaying Hepatitis B vaccines for newborns.
  • The recent replacement of committee members with “non-establishment” figures is called a watershed moment.

“This is the turnaround day, right? This is the first time we don’t just keep adding, adding, adding vaccines to the schedule...”
– Dr. Meryl Nass [28:17]

• Bannon frames the CDC changes as a populist victory and signals further fightbacks are inevitable, referencing corporate and media pushback.

"Don’t think they’re just going to accept what happens today... if you turn around an inch or a day or an hour, you’ve opened the possibilities."
– Steve Bannon [29:54]

4. Gold, the Dollar, and Looming Economic War

[31:42–39:16]

• Philip Patrick (Birch Gold) discusses historic surges in gold prices, linking them to unprecedented central bank demand due to global de-dollarization and fears of economic warfare.
  • US sanctions on Russia are cited as catalyzing alternative currencies and gold-backed trade deals.
  • Patrick and Bannon both suggest the world is drifting toward a broader “third world war”, with economic and kinetic dimensions.

“We’re slipping closer into... a broader third World war. ... Economic warfare will certainly be part of that.”
– Steve Bannon [36:16]

• Listeners are encouraged to educate themselves on economic resilience and gold as a hedge—framed as both practical and patriotic.

5. Tribute to Boone Cutler and Veteran Mental Health

[43:08–47:30]

• Boone Cutler, veteran advocate and co-author with General Flynn, is eulogized after his sudden passing. The segment features:
  • Description of Cutler’s creation, the Spartan Sword and Spartan Pledge, rituals for veteran suicide prevention.
  • A moving group recitation of the pledge led by Maureen Bannon.

“The Spartan sword was created from steel recovered from the World Trade Center in 9/11... Boone was a paratrooper... his main mission... was to help the warfighter family and... lower the veterans suicide numbers.”
– Maureen Bannon [44:36]

• Resources shared: spartansword.org

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Free Speech Hypocrisy:
  "We don't give a tinker's damn about your thoughts on the First Amendment... President Trump and... the FCC and others are going to start shutting stuff down."
  – Steve Bannon [12:22]

• Media Purging Analogy:
  "If we were talking about Russia, Hungary, Turkey... oligarchs, wealthy people... buying up the media... to retain favor with the leader."
  – Guest [02:45]

• Call to Action
  “We’re just flipping through the beginning chapters of the playbook. We are going to deconstruct the administrative state.”
  – Steve Bannon [07:20]

• Vaccines Policy Milestone:
  “This is the turnaround day... first time we don’t just keep adding, adding, adding vaccines to the schedule.”
  – Dr. Meryl Nass [28:17]

• Economic Outlook:
  "Gold’s price really doesn’t have a ceiling because currency’s value doesn’t have a floor. ... Don’t say you’ve missed the boat."
  – Philip Patrick [32:08]

• On Veterans & Loss:
  “He saved numerous veterans' lives and he will truly be missed.”
  – Maureen Bannon [44:36]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:04] – Reaction to Charlie Kirk’s murder & media response (Kimmel controversy begins)
• [02:20] – Discussion of authoritarian media control tactics & comparison to foreign regimes
• [07:08] – Bannon on "deconstructing the administrative state" and media purges
• [20:03] – Senator Paul on COVID vaccine recommendations for children
• [22:09] – Dr. Nass on the CDC advisory committee overhaul
• [28:17] – Dr. Nass: "This is the turnaround day..." on US vaccine policy
• [31:42] – Birch Gold’s Philip Patrick on surging gold prices & economic warfare
• [36:16] – Bannon: Outlook on world war and economic stress
• [43:08] – Tribute to Boone Cutler; Spartan Pledge recited
• [44:36] – Background on Boone Cutler’s work & legacy

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Conclusion

This episode channels a sense of populist urgency, celebrating recent victories over perceived adversaries in the media and public health policy, while calling for more aggressive action against “deep state” and left-wing institutions. The conversation transitions from crisis (the murder of Charlie Kirk and the threat of media suppression) to visions of transformation (administrative and institutional overhaul, direct policy action), and closes with personal loss in the conservative movement, honoring the memory of Boone Cutler. Throughout, Bannon and his guests maintain a combative, unapologetic tone, positioning themselves as the tip of the spear in an ideological and institutional war.

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Transcript

[A]

This is an I heart podcast.

[B]

Text messages and the videos that don't make any sense. No timeline. The text message is ridiculous. Steve, I'll let you go. That text message gives them, it puts the shooter in the theater. It tells him, gave him motive, motivation, the hatred. And then when, when the, the tranny says how long have you been thinking about? And he says about a week. That gives him premeditation. It's a slam dunk. That kid's going to, he's going to firing squad in Utah. But who else is involved? Because it doesn't, there's no, there's no way in my world. I think it's anyway your show. I love you, brother. We'll be talking to you again tomorrow. Hopefully appreciate you. Eric Bolling, always. A lot of people know that history that both Eric Bolling and Boris and others were over with Dave Smith over at Sinclair. They really try to build up some. Okay, first off, we had another tragedy day. I'm going to get to it a little bit later when Mo has arrived at the place where she's going. She's involved in some activities with conservatives this weekend. Boone Cutler, Sergeant Boone Cutler, Mike Flynn's partner, a great patriot, a great member of the service and a next generation warfare expert. In fact, he was coming out, he and Flynn are coming in a new book, Unrestricted Warfare. But I think they've done, was it fourth generation warfare. They just. A brilliant guy died today of a heart attack. We're gonna have a, we're gonna talk about that at the bottom of the hour as soon as we get most set up. Let's go ahead and talk. Let's go bring in the meltdown they've had on Jimmy Kimmel because, hey, they are mad. We've, we've, we've hit a hornet's nest right now. You'll see. Let's go and play it. ABC is pulling Jimmy Kimmel live off the air indefinitely following Kimmel's comments about Charlie Kirk. Kimmel raised the possibility that the suspect in the killing might have been a pro Trump Republican. According to authorities, that wasn't true. That comment immediately drew the attention of FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr, who threatened to, quote, take action, action, action against Disney's abc. We should note the FD FCC licenses stations owned by or are affiliated with abc. It does not license the network itself. Earlier tonight, the President celebrated the decision, saying in part, quote, great news for America. The ratings challenge Jimmy Kimmel show is canceled. Trump, congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done.

[C]

Some people see this and they think, well, you know, it's just one TV show. It's just Stephen Colbert, just Jimmy Kimmel, just late night. What you have to see it is a part of a concerted strategy where not only do you have pro Trump oligarchs consolidating control of the media, and frankly, that's what they are. I mean, if they were, if we were talking about Russia, we were talking about Hungary. If we're talking about Turkey, you're talking about government associated oligarchs, wealthy people with interest before the government buying up the media, because that's one way to retain favor with the leader. But also, really importantly, it's the example that is set. It's not just about what Jimmy Kimmel or Stephen Colbert said. It's the fact that they basically got axed for their speech. That is a message to every other broadcaster on every other medium in this country that if you say something the leader doesn't like, you're probably at risk of getting axed. They want crisp people like you and me to, to be sitting here right now and have another voice in our head every time we open our mouths that if we say the wrong thing, that might be it for us too. Right. This is not just cancel culture, it's way beyond that. It's trying to enforce essentially an ideological test on the broad based news media that reaches the vast majority of Americans so that the only content they're seeing is essentially ideologically aligned with whatever Trump and his FCC director and a small group of people around him think that's what's happening. And we're pretty advanced. The only other thing I'd say, Chris, is we're pretty far along on this thing, right? Like, like it took Putin a while to do this. It took Orban a while to do this. I think maybe because we're actually at the, think of this as we're in year nine of the Trump era. Like he had one term to see what the landscape was. Like he had four years out of power to consider what he'd do if he'd get back. They, they studied what Orban did, they studied what Erdogan did, what Putin did. There's one playbook that has been pursued everywhere. And I think what Americans need to realize is we're not at the beginning of the playbook, Chris. We're near the end of the playbook.

[D]

I mean, that's the, that's the classic playbook of authoritarian minded people. Use this, use an excuse, use an excuse of violence to go after People who have nothing to do with that particular violence. Karl Rove is right. A person with a gun killed Charlie Kerr. Are there bad ideas and good ideas circulating in society? Of course there are. And according to our tradition, our very, very long tradition in America, we argue out these positions together. And by the way, we even argue them on late night television. And sometimes the comedian goes too far, goes the wrong way, and then the next night they say, well, I went the wrong way or I went too far. And that's the way we deal with it. We're self correcting. We don't have bullying. Federal institutions come in and try essentially to censor arguments they don't like. Again, it's going to, they're going to reap the whirlwind of that one day. And I just. What I don't understand is that it just goes against every impulse that they've articulated, which is to say, you know, the right had very reasonable critiques of cancel culture, stop punishing people for life or the dumb things that they say. They have the power. They have the FCC now and bam. Apparently that philosophy is out the window. And the new philosophy is, if you have a little power, use it.

[B]

Becoming increasingly clear, isn't it, Mike, that people around President Trump who are now in the White House spent the four years that President Trump was out of power thinking, how can we dismantle liberal with a small l? Institutions that conservatives have had gripes about, sometimes fairly, sometimes not fairly for a very long time. And we're seeing them do that systematically. And anytime there is an opportunity and they feel that public opinion will let them push that much further, it seems they're going to go as far as they can.

[E]

And it was a sick individual that murdered Charlie Kirk. And we should be focused on the fact that we don't need to be seeing anything like that in the streets of America, no matter where you are. We are a civilized society, okay? We're not supposed to conduct ourselves that way and we're not supposed to be condoning any such thing. And the only thing that I would say as it pertains to Jimmy Kimmel was where was the joke? Because you're a late night host and obviously that has a comedic attachment to it. Where was the joke? Obviously it wasn't anything funny about that. And so we have to take that into consideration and make sure that we play oppositions and understand what we can and cannot say. Because we have a responsibility when we have a camera and a microphone in front of us to articulate ourselves in an appropriate fashion. We can be dogged, we can be opinionated, we can provide perspectives, we could do a lot of things, but we could also be responsible while doing so.

[B]

Okay, Thursday, the 18th of September, year of our Lord 2025. Welcome to the afternoon early evening edition of the War Room. So much has gone on today. We start the day earlier today, of course, in the United Kingdom, and we had a fascinating discussion about artificial intelligence, since that seems like what a lot of the deal for nuclear power was about. This Kimmel situation. Number one. No, we're not nearer. These guys don't get it, but that's good. We're not near the end of the playbook. We're just flipping through the beginning chapters of the playbook. We are going to deconstruct the administrative state. That's what the commentator, the British commentator was trying to spit out. We're deconstructing the administrative state. We're going to destroy the deep state, but we're also going to destroy the institutions that are trying to perform a color revolution on the American people. President Trump said yesterday, as we've been talking about here in the War Room since was it last Wednesday when we flew out after Charlie was assassinated to Utah, that we need to designate antifa. And by designate antifa, you'll get, you'll roll up this entire group around it. The NGOs been giving them money. The billionaires, the foreign billionaires been giving them money. Their media partners, this is what they're sweating. They've designated a terrorist organization. And that means just like Al Qaeda and all these other radical Islamic groups that you start to roll up, at least partially roll up. You can start rolling these up, okay? And it's going to be full on. And here's the thing. I love hearing these people squeal because people are contacting me, hey, can you get on here and debate about the First Amendment? We ain't debating anything. We're taking action. Jimmy Kimmel shut down because he tried to smear. He smeared the MAGA movement and really denigrated the memory of Charlie Kirk by lying like he does all the time. Lying and lying and lying. And the affiliates, it's the affiliates that had a belly full of said, hey, look, we got to sell the, you know, the tire, the guys that sell you tires, the local grocery store, the people provide services to folks on these local ads and we're not gonna be able to sell them because people understand this guy's hate filled. And now they're talking about, oh, if he made a donation, there's no donation. He can make big enough. Two down, two to go. Okay, two or two of the worst Colbert and I. My strongest recommendation to cbs. You've got to pull the plug on Colbert now. Please don't make the nation suffer through. Just pay his contract out. What do you care? The thing about. I could do the math. He loses 40 million bucks a year. The show cost 100. Can you believe that? The show cost $100 million a year to produce. He brings in 60, loses 40. Just shut it down now. You end up losing less money even if you got to pay off his contract. Just shut it down now. That ought to be the pressure put on cbs. Shut it down now. Just like they gave the hook on Jimmy Kimmel. There's no apology, there's no groveling. There's no money. Kimmel is gone. Just get rid of him. You got so much more you got to clean up. And I think as the new owners of CBS and others, they'll start to clean this up. And it is one line of attack. And they say, oh, the playbook of Orban. President Trump doesn't need Orban's playbook. Although Viktor Orban, for a small country, did a fabulous job. President Trump's got his own playbook, and he's running through it, okay? And as we've said, and this is where Charlie invited me to the Student Action Summit back in July. And you guys remember the broadcast we did from there over a couple days. And you also. I hopefully remember the speech where I got up and said, hey, of all the great stuff President Trump is doing, all the great stuff that we're fighting for, of everything that's just incredible and wins all over the place. If we don't take apart the deep state, if we don't really get into it and take this apart and understand that anybody that's not with us is against us. You know, you got Mike Pence. You had all these guys blubbering. Mike Pence is blubbering. That sanctimonious force from talking about the Bible, right? The Bible says, you know, Mike Pence, Judas Pence. Hey, read the section on Judas, dude. That's the part of the Bible you ought to know, because you're a traitor to President Trump, the MAGA movement, and the country because the 2020 election was stolen. Did you hear any of these people, by the way? Did you hear any of them complain or say, well, First Amendment and free speech? You see anybody about free speech with War Room and so many other individuals and podcasts, including President Trump, when they Ripped him off what? Twitter and Facebook when he's still president of the United States. Do you remember anything about free speech? The arguments for free speech? You know why? They only do it when they're losing. So you sit there on your shows, you sit there on MSNBC and cnn, New York Times and editorials and Karl Rove right up in the Wall Street Journal. We don't give a tinker's damn about your thoughts on the First Amendment. President Trump and I think the FCC and others are going to start shutting stuff down. And here's what's happening. This came from the people that have the capital applied at the affiliate level and where the rubber meets the road, where really the American people make decisions on what they're going to watch. And guess what? Jimmy Kimmel's not sellable as Steve Colbert is not sellable. If he was sellable, why does he lose $40 million a year? That is a donation. That is a payment in kind to the Democratic Party. If I was the Justice Department, I strongly recommend looking at old CBS and going through it and Stephen Colbert. And why is that not a, a Federal Election Commission violation? Because it's a direct compromise. It's a direct, it's a payment in kind to the Democratic Party. He's spewing his hate. What they did analysis. I don't really forget. 900 liberal progressive Democrats to one Republican don't even matter. The Republicans are put up there like a Kinzinger or Liz Cheney. It's pure Trump hate every day. This is what drives these assassinations. This is what gets people worked up. Have you seen anybody on the right? Everybody's very upset. Everybody's very concerned. The vigils have been peaceful. They're getting ready for Charlie's funeral service or celebration on life and the religious service around it for Sunday. We'll make more announcements tomorrow. But real America's voice, we're going to be there wall to wall for like, I don't know, hours and hours. We'll cover everything live. Plus we'll have a pregame, we'll have a post wrap up to make sure you get, you understand everything as Charlie Kirk. This is the, this is the first state funeral of the MAGA movement, Charlie Kirk's. And now we have a scalp in Jimmy Kimmel. And they're going to be many, many, many more scalps. So they can whine and they can cry and they get in the fetal position. As I said, Sergeant Boone Cutler, an American hero and patriot, passed away partner of Mike Flynn, his co author of Many Books passed away early this morning, I think. I believe they said it was a heart attack on Sergeant Boone Cutler, paratrooper, American patriot and American hero. We're gonna take a short commercial break. Of course, not just big tech and the fighting of artificial intelligence. Guess what? Big pharma and them vaccines they're trying to put in your kids and the babies and you and everybody. I think they got to kind of explain this so people understand. Okay, I understand. Just like we need to actually understand, like all the jumbo, the different videos and the text. You know, the guy writing like Shakespeare. I can tell you, having a great production team. There's unbelievable. From Denver to palm beach to D.C. to the war Room. At the War Room and on the road. These young guys, ages, I don't know, 21 to 29, maybe 30. They're not. They don't text. They text like they talk. And they don't talk. They don't talk in complete sentence. They don't talk in paragraphs. They don't talk in the King's English, right? So what they showed us yesterday is an insult to your intelligence. Insult. Short commercial break. Back in the warm in moment. Kill America's voice Family. Are you on Getter yet? No. What are you waiting for? It's free, it's uncensored, and it's where all the biggest voices in conservative media are speaking out. Download the Getter app right now. It's totally free. It's where I put up exclusively all of my content 24 hours a day. Want to know what Steve Bannon's thinking? Go to Getter. That's right. You can follow all of your favorites. Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobi, and so many more. Download the Getter app now. Sign up for free and be part of the Newfoundland. This was being treated as a single murder. It's not a single murder. This is not a single murder of a great man. There's a vast conspiracy in back of this. Antifa needs to be designated as a domestic terrorist organization. Hey, if you want to make an international terrorist, there's plenty of evidence of that. In fact, he came out of Europe. You designate him a terrorist organization, then all kinds of good things happen. You start subpoena, telephone records, text messages. You go. You go to the telephone companies like they went on us and took all our stuff. Fine, do it. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. See the interconnection. See who's financing them. See who's contacting them. See what politicians are working with. Them see what media types are working with them. And then we ought to round up the media types are working with them. And as accessories. This is doable. And if you want to avoid a civil war, it needs to be done today. Use the powers of the state. We happen to be in charge. I think the executive order President Trump says he's going to do. I think the executive order will be ready as soon as President Trump gets back from. He's getting back tonight, in fact, may land, I don't know, even during the show. I think they can get it done. I think they get a really good team working on it and they're making progress and this is the way you get to the bottom of it. This is one of the reasons they're sweating these NGOs, these not for profits. These people have been financing this stuff for years, financing the color revolution. You're going to see deep state associations, you're going to see people in the government, you're going to see people in the media, you're going to see people at financial institutions. You're going to see people. The most prestigious, the most prestigious of the NGOs. But you have to take action, Action, action, action. They take direct action, which is terrorist activity. That is, that is assassinating people like Luigi Mangione or, or, or whoever. The, the conspiracy in back of assassinating Charlie Kirk. They, they do terrorist activities. They do kidnappings, bombings, all of it. Right? All of it. And it's got to be stopped. It must be stopped. We have the full power to stop it. You don't see MAGA in the streets. Don't see MAGA burning down buildings. You don't see MAGA surrounding buildings and keeping ICE officers around, doing their duty to do mass deportations. Right now, they're stopping from even doing the criminals in the Bad Hombres. So this has to be done. The sooner we set up the apparatus to do it, the better. Hopefully that'll be shortly and putting teams together to do it and then you're going to start to get to the bottom of it. Still going to take human action. Still going to take a lot of effort to grind through it, but we'll get it done. Remember, it's all about. This is not about unity. There's nothing unified with. Are you going to give a group hug to that crowd? Stephen L. Miller, not the Miller at the White House, says he's got a great tweet up. I think we're about to post it and I'll get it to Denver, make sure it's up in a little while, he says. Finally, he says, the media's got something they're really upset about. That's Jimmy Kimmel's firing, not Charlie Kirk's murder and assassination. Just remember that. See how they're whining? They're whining on Kimball because they understand Kimball because they understand we're coming for them. They're not a free media. It's been a propaganda arm. How many can not just conservatives. How many MAGA people really been up there that maybe were on a panel or seeing our stuff, didn't get tortured? Right. How many real MAGA is your voice you see in the mainstream media? No, it is not. That's because they think that they are protected. They're not protected. We're starting. And by the way, like I said, the strategist is a maximalist strategist. Let's go all the way to the logical conclusion. Let's have a sense of urgency and let's seize the institutions. You know, what's really getting them right now. They understand with what President Trump's doing and every day how we're burning in deeper is that they're not going to be able to reverse it. There's no going back, right? There's no going back. One reason no going back. We did like Cortez. We burned the boats on the beach and we're just marching inland to victory. Okay, we got a coal open. A huge day about these vaccines. Let's go ahead and play it. Think it's Senator Paul from yesterday. Then we'd bring in Dr. Merrill. Nass has been at this hearing all day. Go ahead.

[F]

When they approved it, they had this discussion at the vaccine committee that we've been talking about. During the discussion, they acknowledged that there was no proof of reduction in hospitalization or in death. So what they did is they said, what can we use to try to make people take this vaccine? They came up with this. They said that if we give you a COVID vaccine, you make antibodies. So really, the whole recommendation for having a COVID vaccine from six months up is not based on hospitalization data, not based on deaths. It's based on whether you make antibodies or not. And what people fail to see from this is I can inject you with a foreign protein every week and measure antibodies. You'll make antibodies every time. It just means immunology work has nothing to do with whether you should get a vaccine every week. So when we're discussing the science here, we have to discuss what. What is the science in favor of giving A vaccine to a six month old, and what are the benefits from that? And there is no benefit of hospitalization or death. And then what would the risks of the vaccine be? We have large population studies of the risks of the vaccine in younger people and it turns out that you don't see this as much if you look at the general population. But once you start isolating in by age group, which you have to do in Covid, because there's such a disparity among age group, you find that there is a risk of myocarditis, a significant event to somewhere between 6 and 8 and 10,000. But that's much greater than the risk of hospitalization or death, which are not even measurable because they're so small. So you resisted firing people who have this idea that the COVID vaccine should be at six months. That's what this is about. You didn't resist firing the perfect beautiful scientists that are career people and unobjective and unbiased. You wouldn't fire the people who are saying that we have to vaccinate our kids at 6 months of age. That's who you refuse to fire.

[B]

So Dr. Merrill Nass joins us. Ma', am, I think you've been live tweeting this all day, following it. What went on today? I think was it in CDC headquarters what went on today, what was the purpose of it? And kind of where do we stand? What's been the outcome so far?

[A]

Sure. So this was an ACIP meeting. This is the advisory committee to the CDC that is supposed to advise the director on how vaccines that are licensed should be used, what populations should get them, how often, for what reasons. Now, since Mr. Kennedy became secretary, there has been a hullabaloo because, you know, people are saying he's going to take away our vaccines. And of course he's not. They're licensed, you know, they're not going to become unlicensed unless there's data that they're dangerous and they don't make sense.

[B]

What he.

[A]

What? Well, he had nothing to do with today, actually there were new members of this committee and today they only looked at two vaccines, the mmrv, which is the.

[B]

Well, hang on, hang on. Ho, ho, slow down, hang on. He did have something to do with it, didn't he? Remove the entire 17 person board and put in new people. And I think Dr. Malone's the chair. Well, that's. Wouldn't you say? I think that slightly did have something.

[G]

To do with it.

[B]

It's not like, hey, these guys just met. Hang on, One of the controversies. One of the controversies is that PhRMA and the team wearing the patches for Pfizer are saying that he removed this board. Unprecedented. And he put a group of wing nuts on it. And this was the first of the meetings today. Right. So what is your defense of actually a CIP being reformulated?

[A]

Okay, so this is the second ACIP meeting since Mr. Kennedy changed the makeup of the committee. And today there were five new people added to the seven people who were at the earlier meeting. They behaved very much like the old members of the A SIP committee, which is they asked some questions, they listened to briefings, they discussed among themselves. And really, Dr. Levy is retsev Levy, who is an Israeli, asked the most pertinent questions and challenged what was being presented. But the other members didn't really do much challenging. And the questions they're being asked to vote on today only had to do with changing a vaccine schedule to something a little bit safer in very young children. So two vaccines were looked at, the measles, mumps, rubella, which you can get separately, or you can get it with avaricella in the same dose in the same shot. And it turns out if you take a 12 month old baby and use the combined shot with the four antigens, you're approximately twice as likely to induce a seizure in that baby. And for that reason, 85% of doctors and parents have been using the separate vaccines, but 15% have used the combined vaccines, which causes more seizures. So approximately one extra seizure per 3,000 vaccinations. And since we don't really know if that seizure is going to result in some severe harm down the road, it makes sense to avoid it. So they are going to vote very shortly or right now on whether to not offer combined vaccine at 12 months. By the time a child is 4 or 5 years old, they can get the combined vaccine. And they apparently do not have an increased risk of seizures at that point.

[B]

Hang on, hang on. We're gonna go to commercial break, but okay, they're in full meltdown on MSNBC and cnn. It's like you're saying it's very matter of fact. These are monumental because it's never been questioned before, Right? And moving something like this for that crowd is like we're moving a holy day of obligation. Right? This is a mindset. You're not just taking on a $1.5 trillion industry. You're actually bringing up, well, one of the reasons maybe we don't do that is because they've had seizures. Of course the facts are out there. They've had seizures for a long time and just nobody did it right. This is monumental. And I want to make sure that we are very frank and upfront about how monumental this is and how they're just not going to sit there and go, hey, Malone and his buddies and Bobby Kennedy, you know, they convened this thing and they just decided just to re torque a little bit of the thing because they're thinking if we can retorque anything, we can re torque everything. And they will fight to the death because did I mention, it's a 1.5 trillion dollar industry. Let's take a short commercial break. Philip Patrick is with us. Dr. Merrill Nass on a Thursday in September. All in back in a moment. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban Patriot Mobile so many great things happening down in Texas on Brian Harrison fighting this once again. The establishment politicians down there refused to move on kind of this DEI and what's happened at the college level and this radical transgender ideology. Brian Harrison has been making it public just like we got those five seats this audience. Make sure Patriot Mobile has been doing great work down there, but it also happens to be the best phone service around. Call today and talk to our customer rep who will be an American citizen. And that call center will be somewhere, I think it's in East Texas. So make sure a 972 Patriot, tell them Bannon sent you or war room sent you. You get a month free. Do the switch today. Best phone Service around. Patriot Mobile. 972 Patriot Tell them Steve Bannon sent you get a free month. So Dr. Merrill Nast, look, what's happening is monumental and they're going to fight it every step of the way. Don't think they're just going to accept what happens today. You've been observing this for decades. In that process of your observing it, how big a day is this for us?

[A]

Well, this is the turnaround day, right? This is the first time we don't just keep adding, adding, adding vaccines to the schedule because the people on the ACIP before were primarily, you know, vaccine developers. And so their, their income depended on vaccinating. And this group is not necessarily like that. So we're making baby steps. They also considered the hepatitis B vaccine, which is given at the day of birth to most babies in the United states because only 1/2 of 1% actually need it. And because we're not 100% sure who those babies are, we give it to all of them. And because it makes, you know, it's worth over a billion dollars to industry to do that. So what the members of the committee are being asked is, can we delay it until one month from the first day of life? And to me, that's a very minimal improvement because 99% of these babies don't need it. But for the CDC and the vaccine pushers, it's huge because it's a turnaround. They're going backwards. And so we're gonna have to see how the media plays this. These two particular vaccine issues that were brought up today were both very clear cut. And if the other side argues about these two, they'll argue about anything tremendously. Tomorrow is the day they talk about the COVID vaccine in babies. And that will be very interesting.

[B]

And we'd love to have you back on. We're honored to have here Dr. Nass, let me just give you. I'll give you a precis of how they're saying the barbarians are inside the gates. Okay? They're not taking this well. You've turned, you've stopped in slightly like 30 days. They understand if you turn around an inch or a day or an hour, you've opened the possibilities, you can turn around. And that's why they're going to fight this one tooth and nail. But heroes like yourselves and Bobby Kennedy and others, people over at Children's Health Defense, we're just honored to have you guys and so great that you're following this so closely. What's your social media, ma'? Am? We'll have you back on tomorrow after the explosive. The explosive hearing or I guess presentation on babies and COVID vaccine. Where do people get you, ma'? Am? Yeah.

[A]

Merrillnass.substack.com thanks.

[B]

Thank you, ma'. Am. I appreciate you. Philip. Patrick Gold is on fire. It blows through 3700, you get a 25 basis point cut, little profit taking, talk to people, but particularly a lot of people. And I need your logic on this because it looks like two more cuts are coming. People are saying another 50 basis points probably by the end of the year. Why is this important? How does it relate to gold? The central banks are still buying at record rates. A lot of people come to me and go, hey, we love what you do with Philip at. We love what you're teaching us. But you know, I listened to you guys years ago when goal was at 1100 and I didn't make a move. And now it's at 37 and did I miss it? Should I just sit on the sideline? I'm not here to sell people to buy gold. But when those people have the natural inclination that is this thing at a peak and what's going on, what is your, what is, how does, how does birch gold walk? Folks do this?

[H]

Yeah, look, I think there's a lot of scope for movement in metals. We've been, you know, we didn't think it would break through 2000, 3000, now we're approaching 4000. Look, we have to understand first of all what's driving gold in this climate. And it is the strongest fundamental of all, which is literally all time high demand and it's coming from central banks. The other side, the other thing to consider is the currency aspect.

[B]

Right.

[H]

People have to understand gold's price really doesn't have a ceiling because currency's value doesn't have a floor. Gold is a reflection of the value of currency. A very extreme example of that. World War I, Germany, an ounce of gold was 142 reichmarks. They undertook quantitative easing. Obviously they had to rebuild Europe after the Treaty of Versailles. Hyperinflation took a grip. The Weimar Republic, an ounce of gold 10 years later was 87 trillion German marks. Now obviously that is a very extreme example, but the premise should be clear. What we're seeing now is a global push away from the US dollar, a push towards gold. And of course that supports supporting its price movement. Even investment banks which tend to be conservative when it comes to gold, are frantically upping their predictions. And Goldman Sachs say 5,000, 4,000 by the end of this year, 5,000 next year. So a lot of scope for movement. Don't say you've missed the boat in another year from now because I think the trajectory will be continued continuously to the upside.

[B]

One of the big takeaways from the United Kingdom today I don't think was so much the deal as President Trump's discussion about Russia. Now Starmer and these guys have no money, no arms, no troops. But President Trump really spent a lot of time talking about basically economic warfare and economic sanctions. He couldn't have been clearer that Putin has really disappointed him in these peace negotiations. He mentioned secondary sanctions on oil. He said he's not going to make any big moves to really defend anybody until everybody stops buying Russian oil. But he talked about secondary sanctions on the Chinese oil and big time economic sanctions on Russia. Now we know that Russia has had a part in the BRICS movement on de dollarization. They haven't taken a lead like some of the other nations. But I think after that, what are your thoughts? I think Russia is going to figure out, hey, if they're if we're going to be engaged in economic warfare now, we've got to get on the boat of de dollarization.

[H]

Oh, yeah, listen, Russia were firmly on that boat. Quietly on the boat, but firmly on the boat. 98% of their bilateral trade agreements now bypass the US dollar. And you can understand why, right. Biden weaponized our dollar against Russia in 2022, and they learned their lesson. It was also a warning shot for other nations.

[B]

Right.

[H]

Xi, we know, has one eye on Taiwan, right. That appears to be in his mind as his legacy. Today, China have about 3 and a half trillion dollars in sizable assets. How much do they want exposed when they send chips ships ultimately to the South China Sea? So I don't think that push is going to stop when it comes to de dollarization. By the way, I think Trump's doing the right thing as well by, by, by sort of forcing countries not to buy Russian oil. We need to starve the Russian war machine. So it's very complex situation. But ultimately, I think the train left the station in 22. You can see it with central bank gold buying. And I don't see anything on the horizon that's going to slow it down.

[B]

That's what I want to ask you. The central banks now that they see, because a lot of them haven't been back of like Brazil, what happened in Rio, the side pocket bilateral deals where you get around the dollar. But as they see a world that, and we got to be blunt about this, we're slipping closer into. We're already in the kinetic part of it, but I think we're slipping day by day into a broader third World war. Right. Because President Trump's tried his best in Gaza, he's tried his best in Ukraine. He even said today the frustration of President Trump was pretty extraordinary. Last night, the state dinner, and then today, it's not like President Trump to admit, right, that, hey, this is a tough one. I thought it was going to be easier, but it's tough and it may be tougher is economic warfare increases. Will the other central banks continue to buy gold at record rates? I mean, what are the options here? In a world of increasing currency war, trade war and economic warfare, it's the.

[H]

Most powerful weapon these guys have. Sell you. We've got a $37 trillion debt pile. All these guys have to do is sell us debt, borrowing rates skyrocket and it squeezes us. It is massively problematic. By the way, I also agree with you. We're heading towards a third world war. I saw a really interesting opinion piece in the Financial Times and it was talking about how world leaders are aging Putin, Xi, Erdogan, Netanyahu. And the premise or the idea was listen, these guys are moving for their legacy. Look at, look at Putin with, with Ukraine, look at Xi sort of posturing with Taiwan. I think these guys are going for the big moves now. Things are heating up. Economic warfare will certainly be part of that. And our biggest Achilles hill, like I said, $37 trillion of debt. It is a bad position to be heading in with.

[B]

Just a heads up, the Democrats have given their position on the cr. Folks. I think right now as we get close into the evening of the of 18 September in Washington D.C. the imperial capital, I think this government may be shut down. I don't think you're going to get a clean cr. I think this really get to be a donnybrook because I don't see any Democrats really getting on board of this. Philip, how do people now go and work? You can text bandit at 989-898. You can get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals. You get the end of the dollar empire. You and I are working on chapters eight and nine. Coming out a part of that, coming out of your experience, the amazing reporting and analysis you did from Rio, really the first guy to really talk about the side pocket bilateral trade deals that are not going to be done in dollars. People get the end of the dollar empire, you know, birchgold.com, bannon to understand all of this. But now when they make contact with you, particularly with gold at 37, around 3,700 bucks, tell me how do they work with you? What's the best and easiest way? Because people more than ever want knowledge. They want information. They want to understand this is not about the daily price of gold to them. They want to understand the process that drives the value of gold as a hedge against times of financial turbulence.

[H]

Look, that's what's the most important thing for us at Birch. We feel like people make right decisions with, with knowledge. Right. And that's why, you know, we've been fortunate to work with you put together the end of the dollar empire. Start with the information and then just call us. You're going to get access to myself if I'm not on the phone or many people as smart or smarter than me that will be there to guide them through step by step answer questions, create clarity, explain what's going on. We're here to provide information. We leave it down to our customers to make the decisions. But we're here to give all the information. Birchgold.com Bannon give us a call from there.

[B]

We're not here to sell you fish. We're here to teach you how to fish. And I think it's been very productive. The feedback's been incredible. Philip Patrick, thank you so much for joining us today.

[H]

Thank you, Steve.

[B]

The Fed finally gets a rate cut. I'll get Philip back on next week to talk about the Moore. We've had to skip Philip a few times because of the always been nice enough to defer coming on here given the Charlie Kirk situation and other activities. As no, we're very involved with you on everything related to debt, deficits, the budget, spending, all of that. You know, the idea President Trump want to have a clean CR get to November, they'll figure it out by then. It puts a huge burden on what's going to happen in November. Right? A huge burden of what's going to happen in November. But I'm not so sure that's actually going to take, I think the Democrats lesson that they're taking away from their base and seeing what Newsom's doing is just fight Trump at every step of the way. There's no cooperation. There's nothing. So I think right now, unless you can figure out some way to get around the Senate, I think we're heading toward a government shutdown, I think. And if you're going to have a government shutdown, hey, let's give them a government shutdown. You have essential personnel, non essential? I don't know. Do you need that when you have 37 trillion in debt and you have $2 trillion deficits, do you really need the non essential? Aren't we really down to the essential? We're going to take a short commercial break. We're going to be back talking about Sergeant Boone Cutler. Mo has finally arrived to her location, is going to join us. Home Title LOCK Every dream you've ever had is in your home if you're lucky enough to own one. And if you're under 35, that's almost an impossibility. Make sure that dream does not become a nightmare. Hometitle lock.com Steve 60 for one buck. One buck. You get 60 days to try out Home Title Lock's security system. Check it out. Home Title Lock Steve 60 do it today.

[G]

I'm worried about is China's presence in the United States and not just politically, because China does have a presence in the United States, political, politically, but also their physical presence. I mean, everything that just happened in Russia with these Drones. People have got to start looking very hard about this land that's owned by the CCP around our military installations. They could launch that same type of attack right here. Not to mention all those, all those container ships there are floating in the Gulf of America. Every one of those container ships could be launching the same type of thing. Now, I like the idea of the golden dome, but these things that I'm talking about would be working underneath the golden dome because they quite possibly might already be here. You know, we're looking at situations in nuclear in Russia, we're looking situations that are nuclear with Iran, we're looking at the expansion of the CCP going into Taiwan. In order to do that, they need to neutralize our deterrent threat with nukes. I think this game is getting escalated very, very quickly with the drones, with the AI, with the CY Cyber. I think everything is escalating very, very quickly. And I'm not exactly sure how things are going to calm down. And I'll put this out there. I do believe in my heart of hearts, if Putin thinks he's going to lose and he's going to die, I think he's going to start hitting other countries inside of, inside of Naito's, not just, not just Ukraine. And then we're going to have an escalation yet again, which was precipitated by what just happened with Ukraine, inside of Russia. These things are not going to go quickly or easily. I don't think anybody's trying to buy a better position for some sort of peace settlement. I think they want all out war and I think they're going for a full blown, full blown third world war that's going to involve just about everybody that's on the China team and everybody that's on the U.S. team. And I think it's going to be ugly. And I think we need to definitely reinforce what we've got going on in our own country as far as our strategic security.

[B]

Turn around, buddy. Turn around this way. First I gotta say this heart and pledge, your catalyst.

[G]

It's what to do when you don't.

[B]

Know what to do when you're in.

[G]

That funky space in your mind this.

[B]

Late at night or wherever you are.

[G]

And you start thinking to yourself, the.

[B]

World will be a better place without you. That is the guilt monster.

[G]

The guilt monster is a liar.

[B]

When that happens, there's somebody else out.

[G]

There who's already agreed to be there.

[H]

In that time and space.

[C]

But you get that.

[B]

So you are never alone.

[G]

You admit you may suffer, but you.

[B]

Will not suffer alone. The Spartan pledge is our battle.

[G]

After today, the way you solidify it.

[B]

Is to take the pledge of one more person. So you got to get it on. You understand? Put your left hand right there. Repeat after me.

[G]

I will not take my own life.

[B]

By my own hand I will not.

[I]

Take my life by my own hand.

[G]

Until I talk to my battle buddy first.

[I]

Until I talk to my battle buddy first.

[B]

My mission, my mission is to find.

[I]

A mission is to find a mission.

[G]

To help my warfighter family.

[I]

To help my warfighter family.

[B]

Give her a round of applause. Amen. MO we lost a great one today. Sergeant Boone Cutler, the co author of General Flynn of 5GW 5th Generation Warfare. You can see from the clips, we have his appearances on the show. This guy was flat out smart. Got it. But he's also a warrior in his own personal life. What is Spartan sword? That ceremony you just went through, what was it, ma'? Am?

[I]

So the Spartan sword was created from steel recovered from the World Trade center in 9 11. And the gentleman when the camera goes to the crowd, those are actually FDNY firefighters from 911 and I met them all at the Gary Sise foundation event in Nashville back in 2022. But the Spartan pledge using the Spartan sword is I will not take my own life by my own hand until I talk to my battle buddy first. My mission is to find a mission to help my war fighter family. So Boone created that. Boone was actually, he was a paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne and then got out. He did his initial tour, got out and then saw what happened on 911 and requested to be reactivated to go back in and he went into a psyops unit and then he was in that first wave in Iraq and he suffered injury and was sent to Walter Reed. He had a tbi. So his main mission since being at Walter Reed and then recovering was to help the warfighter family and he wanted to help his battle buddies in order to lower the veterans suicide numbers. That was one of his many missions and he did an amazing job at that. He saved numerous veterans lives and he will truly be missed.

[B]

Amazing, amazing guy. General folk, we'll try and get some people on tomorrow to have more remembrance. I mean losing Charlie Kirk just over a week ago and then losing a warrior like Boone Cutler, the best of the best. Do we have anything to say? I want to put up, go to Amazon and get the book 5GW 5th Generation Warfare. I think he and General Flynn have a new book coming, Unrestricted Warfare. He was quite a thinker anywhere else we know to give a contribution or anything. Mo, have we gotten any information yet?

[I]

Not yet. I'm working on that. But if you want to find out more about the Spartan Sword and the Spartan Pledge, you can go to spartansword.org and once I find out if there's a way to help the family, I will post that on our social medias and mine as well.

[B]

And we'll talk about tomorrow. Mo, what is your social media now that what are your coordinates?

[I]

You can find me on Twitter and get her at Maureen Underscore Bannon and also on Instagram at Real Maureen Bannon. And I will. If you're in the Houston area, I am speaking at the Texas Youth Summit. I'm talking to the Texas Youth here on Saturday. You can still go to texas youth summit.com events and get your tickets. Yeah, we're talking about how to get the youth out to vote and honoring Charlie Kirk as well because Turning Point is a sponsor of this event and Charlie would want us to continue the fight.

[B]

Perfect. Mo Bennett, thank you so much. Thank you. We're going to be making some announcements tomorrow about our coverage of the MAGA state funeral, celebration of life, religious service, all of it on Sunday. Sunday. Get into detail tomorrow. Mike Lindell, Brother, on a day like today, we need a special deal at the end of the day.

[J]

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[B]

Thank you. We'll see you tomorrow morning. Stick around. The second hour is upon us. This is an Iheart podcast.