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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Cause we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big maga media? I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Okay, just to put in perspective this issue of the government shutdown, to make sure that you fully understand the information that's out there and understanding this audience, you're not crazy about the clean cr, right? We kind of stand against those. It would kick it down to November 21, which is right before Thanksgiving. So clearly to get out of town, some trade offs are going to happen. You're not going to love. We got to be ready to fight for that. The alternative the Senate had, they had a, there's a massive omnibus that's kind of out there. Don't let anybody tell you not. They got a big old omnibus out there and they're going to have a lot of crap in that omnibus, as they always do. One is they're going to reinsert all the restrictions we put on the for AI. There's many other things we're going to put in there too that you're going to hate. So that's, that's the specter that's hanging out there. So anytime you see these people come on TV and start yammering on about it, understand that there's already deals been cut behind the scenes. That being said, what President Trump's not prepared to do. I just want to read. The great Jake Sherman just posted this on social media. It was a Caroline Levitt hit on Fox earlier this morning where Caroline said, and I'm quoting her, President Trump and Republicans are committed to keeping the government open. There are no good reasons for the Democrats to shut down the federal government and hurt the American people. Democrats need to stop playing political games and do their jobs. And Jake Sherman puts on top of that with all the caveats that no one speaks for Trump besides Trump. This doesn't seem like a White House ready to negotiate. I don't think they're already negotiate because there's nothing to negotiate. You know, Schumer's on all weekend, hey, we have to have a meeting and he has to negotiate. Always has to know you don't have to negotiate. Nancy Pelosi, you guys didn't negotiate. Remember they forced the government shutdown in 2018 after they won the House. Right. Even before they took over in 2019, they forced the they force the government shutdown over the wall or building the wall. Whenever they have the leverage, they use it. We have the leverage now. There's stories out there that 100,000 employees of the federal government, various employees, maybe even some contractors, are prepared to essentially quit, resign, retire, do whatever leading up to midnight tomorrow night on the 30th at midnight is when we run out of money right now, Russ Vogt, can we play the clip? Can we play the clip from Russ vote? Let's play the about Russ vote about the memo that was in earlier. And if you've got Ben, I'll pull the Caroline, let's pull that too. If you don't, that's fine.
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Steve Bannon
That include permanent layoffs.
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We obtained this memo late last night. It was sent over by the Office of Management and Budget. And in it it says that they are preparing for a potential shutdown and some of this is normal. And they've had some planning calls apparently about this this week. And there's some politics in here, some finger pointing that the administration is doing at Democrats in particular, saying that they are inching closer to a shutdown over a series of insane demands, including a trillion dollars in new spending. But this note goes farther and what it suggests is that the agencies could use this moment to do mass layoffs. It says agencies are direct use this opportunity to consider reduction in force. And as you know, Jeff, this agent, this administration, I should say, has really relied on these RIF notices, these reduction in force mechanisms to really slim down the federal government in the last seven or so months of the Trump administration.
Steve Bannon
This is why I go back to the New York Times article. The New York Times article and for longer term viewers of the show, you remember right after we won in November when we were doing the organization of the government and Russ hadn't been picked yet, but as soon as he kind of got picked, I said, hey. And they were kicking around this idea of Elon coming in with Doge. I said there has to be a merger of the Doge operation with omb because Russ has been doing this now for a long time. He knows every nook and cranny, he knows programmatically, he knows every program. Here's the reason why, just the way the government works. When you have an appropriations bill that gets negotiated in Congress, in both the House and then the Senate and it gets passed and the President signs it, it becomes a law, okay, Then it has to be executed. Remember, this is one of the things that President Trump now is in the doesn't give two Fs mode of the presidency. He's been tapped along by enough people. He understands if you sign an executive order or if you sign the appropriations, you still have to force it through the bureaucracy to make sure it's done. Now the appropriations, that's why it's so such an important committee. That's a law. And really the whole city revolves around the appropriations. Okay. This is why we fought. When Matt Gaetz and the War Room and others led the effort to remove McCarthy about the debt ceiling deal, it was also to get back to single subject appropriations bill because that's where you can where the money really gets spent, where the deals are really cut and you want to get it out of the smoke filled rooms and get it up to the front. So Russ knows everything about it. And we said at the time, you got to merge these processes because eventually it's going to come to an appropriations bill. And if you want to cut spending, that's where you cut. That's where you have to cut it. Plus it is the process to expose. We know that Democrats are insane. They're insane when it comes to fiscal reality. They just want to spend and thinking to print money and everything's fine. Here's the reason is that they have no clue about economics and quite frankly, they don't care. It's all about power and about expanding government programs. You expose here who's really with you and who's again you. And if you remember, you go back, I think to the summer of 22, this audience and we would have 25,000 people and getter and a couple, you know, tens of thousands on rumble watching all night these Appropriations Committee meetings, 2 and 3 in the morning where you had Marjorie Taylor Greene and Gates and Andy Biggs and all the House Freedom Caucus guys arguing against things like usaid. Why are we funding this? And going through the specifics and being voted down by a Republican majority on the committee. So this process is what Russ Vogt knows intimately. He is the. He's the tip of the spear on what I referred to back in CPAC in February of 2017, because we were already working together, the deconstruction of the administrative state. And this is what the New York Times article, which I think is fabulous, because of course, it's the New York Times. They're going to take shots. But they really, you see Russ vote in all his seriousness and all his gravitas, and it goes all the way back to the beginning. Russ Vogt is the architect for implementing President Trump's thing to take the federal bureaucracy and to take it apart kind of brick by brick and leave those aspects of it. You need to actually govern. We're not a. He's not an anarcho libertarian that says we don't need any government. No, we certainly need a regulatory apparatus. Right. You certainly need the cabinet departments, at least some of them. I mean, education, Others you can get out of and start to rad downsize the government so it gets out of every aspect of your life. Russ Fot's the guy that do it. Now the Democrats have walked into a trap washroom, and these guys have been saying, no, we got to keep this spending and that spending. Trump's just going, you're not listening to me. Government runs out at midnight. And I'm not. I've agreed to a CR for a short period of time, essentially two months, right? About 60 days. Even less than 60 days, 50 some days, in order to try to pull it together one more time. But I'm not going to add onto this additional spending. It's not going to happen. And Schumer goes, well, you have to negotiate. The American. No, the American people. Listen. The Democrats are shutting down the government. And what Russ and the team over at omb, where I'm so proud of, have literally got a plan. And they sent the memo around and said, hey, we're going to have reductions in force. Mass reductions in force. When that, when they leaked that last week, the Democrat probably goes, what? What did he say? Hey, he doing what he said. This is not Elon running around with a chainsaw with Milei, who, by the way, we're tossing a $20 billion currency lifeline to. Not that Steve Bannon ever said the Libertarian policies won't solve your economy, but I did say the Libertarian policy is not going to solve the problem with your economy. It's not going to be some theatric chainsaw. It's going to be the Russ votes of the world going through program by program. Here's why. Once the appropriations bill is signed by the President, it then gets put over to OMB and they're the, they monitor the entire thing as it goes out to the various departments and the Alphabet agencies to actually be executed. And this thing is massive. But you can call over to OMB and say, Russ, hey, I got a question. Some, some obscure agriculture program. And he says, give me 20 minutes. And I said, you don't need to come. Send, send your guy. Because the OMB is vast. I think it's 600 to 700, 800 people. They follow every day programmatically, programmatically how the money actually gets spent and kind of what the results are, how we're doing. Not a total, you know, independent analysis, but kind of where it stands in the program on an annual basis daily. So there's no better person than Russ Vogt and the team at omb. If you remember, if you're old enough to remember the Reagan administration, OMB wasn't even something people understood. A young guy named David Stockman was put in the job and he became the rock star of the, of the early years of the, of the, of President Reagan's administration. Because the first time a guy had answers for everything. Because OMB is the center, as I say, the two most powerful jobs ex the president, I think in D.C. as I said, is chief of Staff which kind of coordinates everything and Director of Ombuds, which really takes where the money is. And Russ Vogt has a plan for mass, mass layoffs or what they call reduction in force. And not kind of a Elon Musk where you bounce in one moment and bouncing out another and these people are let go and you got air traffic controls. This is systematic. And the New York Times says opens, it opens with an incident between the Doge guys and Russ Vogt. And Russ Vogt is always the go to guy because he's a safe pair of hands. He's steady Eddy. He won't oversell what he can do. But now you have a mass riff. And so, hey, and I kept saying a couple of weeks ago, remember, essential versus non essential, essential versus non essential. In that non essential Russ vote has got a plan to say, look, some of these are really non essential. In fact, they're going to leave the yard because we're never going to bring him back. Russ is the guy that has come up with the strategy for President Trump or the tactics for President Trump's strategy reducing spending of rescissions, pocket rescissions and impoundments. The article set up and it's very interesting. If you take Mike Davis on one hand and Russ Foden the other who are war room regulars for years, it talks about pushing the envelope of the Article 2 powers of the presidency and you're 100%. You throw Stephen Miller in there kind of the trifecta. You have three individuals, obviously the viceroy outside the government, but a very close advisor to many, many people. Three individuals who are focused on the, on the Article 2 powers of the presidency, whether that is ability to cut spending or to fire people to terminate people, which Russ is very focused on, are kind of Stephen Miller's. What is the with the Alien Sedition act and the other emergency powers on, on, on on on spending or excuse me, emergency powers on the Alien Sedition act and also what's happening with the police operations and the armed operations going to Chicago and others. Right. His President Trump is commander in chief and then you get Mike Davis and what Mike Davis said is the president's third leg of the stool of his powers, chief law enforcement officer and chief magistrate. That trifecta is pushing the edge of the envelope for the Article 2 powers, the inherent powers of the executive as envisioned by the framers of the Constitution. And so far as we saw with the ruling of the Supreme Court on foreign aid money, they backed him up. That's what this fight's about and it's coming to a climax in the next 24:48 hours. At least part of it. More on the other side.
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Okay, we're looking at a gate right there. There's something odd going on, and I can't get a straight answer. There's no color guard. There's no color guard. Netanyahu is coming through the working side of the West Wing, the one we show you all the time. If you remember when NATO came. Excuse me, I shouldn't say NATO. When the European heads came for the Zelensky meeting back on that Monday over what, a month ago, the protocol ambassador, our own Monica Crowley, would come forward and meet them as they came up to the south entrance to the White House. I don't believe Netanyahu's coming. Says no. There's a camera right there. So the camera set up in a. Right there. Traditionally, you've seen this a million times. If we can go and put that shot up, not the, not the gate itself. The west winning. Can you put that? There we go. Thank you. Denver. Denver. You give me an inch, I'll take a mile here, I'll direct you. So right there, that's a tradition and I guess this is it right now. Is this, is this Netanyahu? There's no color guard. I've never seen. There is a Marine that's always outside, and there's the President of the United States. And I'll ask Brian, but I've never seen it. I've never seen this without the colors in a color guard. So we have to get an answer for that. It's 11:15, 11:20. This will start, as we said, not in your house there. I think it's the fourth or fifth time.
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And the 21 point plan is everyone on board.
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So you saw the media shouting questions right there from essentially pebble beach, or it's kind of a. Across from Pebble Beach. That's the, that's the area down where real America's voice and others. Our president just greeted Netanyahu, took him into. That's a small reception area. You walk right in through the. Normally the Roosevelt Room and then go right into the Oval. Now, the president's supposed to have a closed session bilat, but as the president normally does, he normally lets the press in. I think they're going to have a conversation. I'm not saying the conversation is going to get heated, but there's a wide gap between the bid and the ask here. But I got to ask. Get Brian Glenn. I'm asking my crack staff. I got to get an answer on that color guard. I've seen and we've shown you dozens of those, but I don't ever remember a head of state arriving without not the two Marines out front, they're on kind of permanent guard there, but the no color guard, no flags of the nations in Flags of the States. Pretty extraordinary. Look, there's definitely tension. You heard the question right there, the 21 point plan. Now where do we stand? This issue of the Greater Israel Project, and that is a direct confrontation with the Persians, with Iran for regime change. There some sort of issue with the Sinai, something with since Hezbollah has been essentially defeated to go up into Syria and to get some sort of partition there, at least in the southern part where the Druze are as a barrier or safety protection for Israel, given the intrusions that have happened in the past and the assaults have happened in the past. And also the West Bank President Trump who's gotten criticism maybe for allowing Bibi to kind of run wild, particularly sending missiles in to take out Hamas negotiators in Qatar right after he had taken out the Persian negotiators that Steve Wyckoff was supposed to, you know, meet with before the July 12day war. If you look at the overall project, I don't know, President Trump has pretty much, I think shut that down. And why do I say that? This 21 point plan they just talked about, I think does the opposite of what Netanyahu and I've never been a two state guy, I've always been one state. But the 21 point plan where President Trump met with Arab leaders at the United nations in the side meetings, this 21 point plan, the Gaza redevelopment is not the, at least the way I read it, is not taking out militarily, the Hamas fighters, the Muslim Brotherhood, you know, Hamas local franchisees, as we said, should have happened and should have happened in the first six months. Our issue with Netanyahu, he puts his own personal political situation ahead of what's best for Israel. And particularly they're not really an ally of the United States. They continue to drag us into this. Now, the 21 point plan, what they just asked about there and President Trump says we're very close to a deal. Correct me if I'm wrong, folks, but the way I read it, that's setting up for a two state solution, that's setting up the underpinnings of some sort of Arab involvement in the management under at least some interim basis. Tony Blair, who's on the Arab payroll, Tony Blair's taking big money out of Qatar. I think he's also on the payroll of uae. He's not shy, but I think he's upfront about it and I mean a lot of money. I think Qatar was paying him 20 million bucks a year or something. I don't know the specific number but it was a big number as Qatars spread their influence. And look, I am the most adamant anti Qatar individual around and I don't like the way we're rubbing up on them, but they've spent their money very, very smartly both in Western Europe, particularly the United Kingdom and the United States and they have a role in all this. But the 21 point plan. So first off, Gaza, I don't know, looks like there's some sort of foundational element for a two state solution. The way this whole wind down the war, let's get the redevelopment going now I think it would be a horrible idea for any American resources or any American involvement or particularly any American peacekeepers. That would be, that is like verboten no go zone. So that whole thing though, but that has stopped Netanyahu's main thing to clear a Gaza number two Tel Aviv. Levin today is putting up Mike Johnson saying, well the west bank is Israel, some part of Israel. President Trump came out, he couldn't have been more adamant. He said it three or four times. We've got the clips. I was going to play him as a package but it looks like this meeting's going to start. I want to make sure we're on top of it. President Trump came out adamantly after meeting with the Arab nations and said no, not going to. There's not going to be any Israeli takeover. No takeover of the West Bank, None. Three times. Boom, boom, boom. Couldn't be more adamant. And of course all the Trump supporters in the Israel first crowd, which are none, immediately put up Johnson saying, well Johnson's saying that it's actually Israel property. Hey, the commander in chief just said it ain't happening. So do you support him? You're supposed to be so uber maga, Levin. And you crowd that hated him for years, trash talked him for years, worked against him for years and pushed your buddy Ted Cruz who admitted on Tucker Carlson that the reason he got into politics was to save Israel. I don't know. Kind of weird coming from a guy from Texas, right? The most. So that's two. And these are fundamental to the Greater Israel project. This is fundamental. Like in the President's boom Gaza we're going to have this redevelopment 21 point plan and I got the Arabs to sign on to it. The guys are going to write some checks. And you heard the first question the media asked and the second was his adamant, the west bank. We're not doing, not going to do the west bank. That's Trump. And I think there's an argument as a Christian right about the sites there and is it proper to have those And I'm not a big fan of having Muslims control Christian sites. So that's it. But President Trump's adamant, boom, not happening. You see, hey, he wants to bring peace to this thing and get it off his plate. Most importantly though, most importantly, what was I ranting and raving about when all of a sudden Steve Bannon goes, oh, from a big supporter of Israel to now I'm an anti Semite. What is that? It was about the Persian War, the 12 Day War. And remember I said what doesn't make sense here is you have Tulsi Gabbard saying one thing and John Ratcliffe who basically has a huge relationship with the Mossad, saying something diametrically opposed. And that was. We had to go now. It was so urgent. You had to go. Urgent, urgent, urgent, urgent. Because they're hours away, days away, weeks away from a nuclear weapon. Remember that back on that, that Thursday night when they went and the surprise attack and they, and they tried. It was a next day, Friday morning, the show. I started off the show saying this was a decapitation move. This was not nuclear weapons, this was decapitation. They killed the negotiators, they tried to decap the Persian, the Iranian army, they even went after some of the secular leaders. And don't get me wrong, a lot of those folks deserve killing. Okay, I'm very anti Mullis, but there's a way you do things to make sure we don't get sucked into another war. I said at the time it was a bald faced lie and it banged on the table over and over and over again. It's a bald faced lie. And then on Sunday, that Sunday, they bombed. Thursday night, Friday morning, our time on Sunday night, he goes on Bret Baier and Bret Baer says, yo, what was the urgency about? And Netanyahu starts stumbling and oh, it's urgent. He says they were six months, they were a year away. And I came back on the show on Monday. I go, this is the urgency. A year away. We had to go and suck us into a regime change war because they want regime change is not about the new. They're using that as a method to get us in here. Well, the Times of Israel, which is the New York Times of Israel, comes out with a definitive report on the, on the, on the discussions of the war cabinet and what does the discussion of the war cabinet come out? It was two years away, not two weeks, two years away. Let me repeat that for the Israel first crowd. You backed up all of his lies and I haven't heard a peep out of you since the Times of Israel came out with this report about from the minutes of the war cabinet two years away and now they're questioning Netanyahu's out questioning, oh, did we get all the nuclear weapons? President Trump said total and complete obliteration. Take your number two, pencil out Netanyahu and write that down.
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Its military nuclear capacities. Iran's stockpiles of enriched uranium. These stockpiles must be eliminated.
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So are you saying, sir, that not all of the enriched uranium was destroyed during the 12 day war or by those strikes from B2 bombers?
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Sure. No. We knew that in advance. In fact, our whole plan before and after the United States decided to join us took into account that we would couldn't get these 400, 450 kilograms of enriched uranium. We knew that what we were targeting is the capacity to make more of those of that enriched uranium and also the attempt to weaponize it. There's the enriched core of uranium, but you have to put a weapon around it. These, you know, these balls that you see in all these movies, that's the weapon around it. And then you have the missiles to carry that weapon. That's what we struck at and we stuck hard.
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I mean, look, you know, my position is the same as yours, Tony, and so many who have studied the history of Israel and followed this and support our ally there so strongly. I mean, I believe Judea and Samaria are the traditional plans that belong to Israel, but there's a lot of geopolitical forces at play here. I think there's a lot more to be settled out and we'll have to see how it develops.
Israeli Official/Expert
Christian influencers. You said we talked about the woke, right? He said I call it the Woke Reich. That's a brilliant the Woke Reich. Because these people, you know, they're not any different from the Woke left. I mean, they're insane, they're Louisiana. But they're actually meeting on some of the things. And what we have to do is we have to secure that part of our, the base of our support in the United States that is being challenged systematically. A lot of this is done with money. Money of NGOs, vast money of governments.
Mike Lindell
Faster.
Israeli Official/Expert
Okay, we have to fight back. How do we fight back? Our influencers. I think you should also talk to them if you have a chance to that community. They're very important. And secondly, we're going to have to use the tools of balance. You know, the weapons change over time. You can't fight today with swords. That doesn't work very well. Okay. And you can't fight with cavalry. That doesn't work very well. And you have these new things, you know, like drones, things like that. I won't get into that. But we have to fight with the weapons that apply to the battlefields in which we're engaged. And the most important ones are the social media. And the most important purchase that is going on right now is class.
Steve Bannon
Tick tock, tick tock.
Israeli Official/Expert
Number one, number one. And I hope it goes through because it's, it can be consequential. And the other one, what's the other one that's most important? X X Successful. Very good. And you know, so we have to talk to Elon. He's not an enemy, he's a friend. We should talk to him now. If we can get those two things, we get a lot. And I could go on on other things, but that's not the point right now. We have to fight the fight. Okay. To take give direction to the Jewish people and give direction to our non Jewish friends or those who could be our Jewish friends. Are we going to succeed with everyone? No. Will there be a strong counterpart?
Steve Bannon
Yes. Particularly Netanyahu's obsession with keeping power in this, the fundamentally wrong Greater Israel Project. Remember that with the urgency of the nuclear program with the Persians in Iran, we know that now is a bald faced lie. Who tells us that? Well, I don't know. Try the Times of India. That quotes the war cabinet that says. Yeah, the urgency was two years, as we said on this show. And I told the President of the United States that they're lying to you because. Wait for it, they're lying to you.
Critic of Netanyahu
Bibi's running around.
Steve Bannon
This is a fact.
Critic of Netanyahu
I'm not guessing about this because I talked to people he said it to. He's running around the Middle east, his region and his own country and telling people point blank, just stating it. I control the United States, I control Donald Trump. He's saying that and I dare them to say that's not true. Bibi not, not the nation of Israel, not Israelis, and certainly not Jews, whatever that means. The leader, the secular prime minister of a country is doing immense harm to Donald Trump's presidency, to the United States and to the world. This is an unbalanced person whose only real concern is for himself. He's meddling in an extensive way in American politics. He's loathed by the entire world. He needs the United States, and yet at the same time, he has this patronizing attitude toward Donald Trump, demeaning Trump to people Trump knows. Separating from Bibi immediately, I think is an essential next move. But objectively, that is absolutely necessary and very soon because he is hurting his own country, our country and the world, period.
Steve Bannon
Well, it's obviously Netanyahu's government. Right. Is dangerous for the United States. Not an ally. They're protectorate and they're not. There's the tail wagging the dog. But President Trump. Let me just go back and we're going to cut to the White House as soon as the president wants people in for the bilat. Now, what I understand for people moving around, I'm not so sure that's going to happen. I think it may be a little heated in there this morning. A little heated. And when I refer back to the Times, they took the story from the Times of Israel, put it up first, and then they got the Times of Israel. And part of this is Tulsi Gabbard. Zero Hedge has an amazing story today about how I think it's from Sundance over at the conservative Treehouse that Tulsi Gabbard is doing her job. It's the reason that Deep State's coming after her hard. Tulsi's doing a fantastic job. Tulsi Gabbard's been right only about everything. Just remember that. Remember, they're trying to run her out. They were trying to run her out of office in June and July. Why were they trying to run Tulsi Gabbard out? Because Tulsi Gabbard and her team and collecting from all the different sources, because they all report to her, including the CIA. Theoretically, she was telling the president that there's no urgency to this thing. There's no urgency to it Right now. The snapback which we call for the European Union has put in tough sanctions against the Persians. Right now. The Iranians, they're feeling it. And I've said from the beginning, you want to have a. Why are we not enforcing the issue about the oil with the Chinese Communist Party? If we cut off their ability to sell the Mullahs to sell to the Chinese Communist Party. The people in Persia. The people in Persia would overthrow them. It's just like we say about, I'm the most anti CCP guy around. I'm sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party. I consider myself one of the leaders of the anti CCP movement. Not, not the head of Nvidia who says, oh no, China hawks are bad people because they're destroying the American dream. No, bro, your agent influence should be rolled up away. Why have we been saying cut off the oil that Lao Baijing has to take care of the Chinese Communist Party? It can't be people in the west, you can't decapitate it. It has to be the people that overthrow it. Just like it was people here in the good old United States of America. The people in this country overthrew the British crown. It's the reason we had the United States, the reason you had the energy and the motive power in the muzzle velocity to go across the continent. We did it. We had an incredible set of leaders, but we did it. It was a militia war with a small continental army. That's main job was to keep itself in being, not to be destroyed in the 50 battles they lost against the greatest military expedition to that time ever done, except maybe the Persians to Greece. But at least in modern times, we did it. That gave us the strength. We the people overthrew the British crown, the most powerful empire in the world. That's how you do it. The Persian people overthrow you, put the economic sanctions in. No, you don't try to decapitate it. You don't do Israel's bidding. You don't do Netanyahu's bidding. Whether you're United States or America, we make our own decisions of what's right for this country and taking into consideration our allies, like we fought in World War I and like we fought in World War II, not the other way around. I'm telling you, I've never seen it. And maybe people in the chat can correct me if I'm wrong or people in the media that watch this. I've never seen a leader of a country, particularly of a country that's supposedly an ally, ever show up to the working door on the West Wing where the president greets and president did come out and greet with no color guard that is sending a signal. I've never seen it done before. It certainly hasn't been done in every time we've been doing it here in rural America's voice. And President Trump comes in, I don't know A couple of dozen of these things. Every time's the same thing. We always take time early to see the color guard coming out with all the colors and the pomp and circumstance, the custom and tradition, the honoring, honoring the person showing up. I think there's a reason President Trump normally these things, you know, but they show up at 11, they're always late. They get there at 11:15. By 11:30, our show is over and we're just watching like you are the president in the bilad being Trump. Being Trump. That's not happening right now. I think they're having a discussion. I think the discussion goes back to the 21 point plan that President Trump put forward to the Arab nations in sidebar meetings and got sign off. And I read that, look, I am no expert in this area. I read that as the foundational element of a two state solution of some development in Gaza. Now hope to God that the details of the proposal, not public, doesn't have American peacekeeping units or American security guarantees or American money. Let the Arabs put it up. They got all kind of cash. Then the second is President Trump adamant three times, three times Israel is not going to take over the west bank full stop. I believe that might have come up in the meeting with the Arabs about Gaza. I think that might have been a discussion topic even if it was not on the agenda. And third and last is President Trump says, hey, we totally obliterated that. I don't know why you run around saying we knew there were stuff we're not going to get with total obliteration. Focus on the word total and the other word obliteration. And now because this is the way they do it and this is the way they push, we got to get some people in there, some stuff left. Oh, there's the regime still trying to kill the United States, folks. We're not doing regime change. We want regime change in Jerusalem before we decapitate Tehran because then it'll be a mess that we own. You do the sanctions right, you cut off the Chinese Communist Party oil. You do what Europe's doing. Let the people in Persia overthrow them. When they're prepared to overthrow them, they're prepared to take the consequences. What to overthrow? Because it will be chaos. You'll probably have a civil war. But we had a little bit of a civil. We had a civil war here in the United States. Remember, the Revolutionary War was both a revolution against the crown, it was a civil war against ourselves. One third of the country were Tories in particular. You got down where it was ultimately Decided down in South Carolina and North Carolina coming up to Cornwallis, army came up to from Charleston, came up to Yorktown. Hey, down in South Carolina, there was plenty that was Civil War type stuff between the Tories and the, the Swamp Fox and other folks that were patriots. That's what you need. You can't decapitate it. And Radcliffe, they ought to sit in there right today and say, tulsi, what are the, the times of Israel says the war cabinet minutes. The war cabinet minutes said it was two years, not two weeks. As I said at the time, it's a bald face line. He kind of, he kind of equivocated when Bret Barry he said, yeah, it's six months to a year. It's a year. It's a year. Well, that ain't 48 hours, 72 hours. You hit it because you want to do a regime change. You wanted to suck us into it and that's why you went and tried to kill. Reports are you killed them all. Others that you killed some of them. You killed the negotiators. So Wyckoff didn't have a meeting to go to. He had a Sunday meeting set up in Muscat, Oman. No need to go because the guys are dead. Just like you went after trying to kill the Qatar guys. And don't get me wrong, not that they don't deserve killing, but there's a time and place for everything. And that was not the time, nor was it the place. And President Trump has bent over backwards to be accommodating. And I think he's had a belly full of it, you can see in the statements on the West Bank. And so I'm sure they're having a discussion right now. There is going to be a luncheon at noon. There's going to be then a formal press conference in the East. We're going to bring it all to you live. And maybe even the President will open the doors and let folks in for one of these fireside chats he has with world leaders when he does these bilats. Okay, we're gonna take a short commercial break. We're back in the room in just a moment. Spread the word all through Hong Kong. We will fight till they're all gone. We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the CCP.
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Steve Bannon
This?
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Steve Bannon
If you, if you, if you apologize and groveled to Smartmatic and say machines had nothing to do, remember, we're not machine guys. We're mail in ballot guys. But I've always supported the fact that I don't, I don't understand why the machines are so complicated. Right. That's the. My going in. After that, the technology kind of loses me. But if you went and groveled and said I'm sorry, I apologize, I was wrong, and I'll tell the world that it's not a machine problem, would they walk away and let you and my.
Mike Lindell
Pella survive 100% they would, Steve. They've already said that. The other machine companies said that and these guys probably would too. But I will never do that. We have to secure our elections. Once you've seen what I've seen and known what I've known. Look at last week, everybody. The whistleblower that came out, this ties to the Tina Peters case. This stuff is all going to be coming out and I will never ever. They could come to me and offer me a million dollars or a billion dollars, Steve, and I would still say no, the machines got to go. We need your prepared actions.
Steve Bannon
You're prepared to go personal bankruptcy and have your company essentially put into bankruptcy to stand up on this principle? Is that what I'm hearing?
Mike Lindell
Absolutely. Once you know what I know, we wouldn't have a country. 132 countries have banned electronic voting machines. Everybody, we the last one being Argentina and they freed their whole country just a short couple years ago. We have the worst election platforms in the world. We have, I've said it all along, we have to secure them. We have to save our country. Over 100 countries have banned mail in ballots. And so, and so we have. We have the worst of the worst. And I will never back down. I will never stop fighting because we have to save our country. By the way, Steve, Dallas County, Dallas county in, in one of the biggest counties in the country just voted and it's to go to paper ballots and count it for these upcoming primaries. Everybody, this is a great breakthrough.
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Right on. Thanks.
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Get to work. Go get to work. The great Andrew Colvette is in anchoring the Charlie Kirk show which we toss to every day for the last four years. We're gonna toss to it today. Then we'll go to Poso and Steve Gruber, Eric Bolling and then back here five to seven. Natalie will help kick off the show was something she's been working on. You'll be quite surprised. She's been beavering away on a bunch of projects for us. In the interim, the coverage as soon as President Trump lets him in, the Oval will go the Oval as soon as the lunch is over and they go to the East Wing. Live Real America's Voice Voice will cover it all. Live. We'll be back here. They're gonna have a gold star mother reception and Tina Peters ain't gonna be there because Polis has kept her in a prison in Colorado. We'll mention that a couple three times when we see you back here live at 5pm Eastern Daylight Time when you will be back in the war room.
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Episode: #4812
Date: September 29, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Podcast: Real America’s Voice (iHeartPodcasts)
This episode of "The War Room" with Stephen K. Bannon centers on the impending U.S. government shutdown, the continuing battles over federal spending, and high-stakes Middle East diplomacy—particularly President Trump's meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu. Bannon delivers pointed commentary on the political maneuvering in Washington, government restructuring plans, and America’s foreign policy, especially relating to Israel and Iran. The episode also critiques mainstream narratives, highlights intraparty Republican debates, and scrutinizes the influence of foreign leaders on U.S. policy.
Timestamps: [03:07]–[18:04]
Bannon frames the shutdown as a test of MAGA resolve:
“You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it… but you're not gonna stop it.”
(Steve Bannon, [03:07])
Insider view: Spending negotiations pit a "clean CR" (continuing resolution) against the Senate’s looming "omnibus" bill full of unwanted provisions. Bannon argues, “We’re not crazy about the clean CR... it would kick it down to November 21, which is right before Thanksgiving. So clearly to get out of town, some trade offs are going to happen. You're not going to love.” ([03:54])
Russ Vogt’s Role:
Bannon elevates Russ Vogt, Director of OMB under Trump, as architect of a plan to dramatically shrink the federal workforce and bureaucracy if a shutdown occurs, referencing a leaked OMB memo preparing agencies for potential “mass reductions in force.”
Constitutional powers:
Bannon notes how Vogt, working alongside Mike Davis and Stephen Miller, seeks to maximize presidential authority, especially over firing federal employees and cutting spending (Article II powers).
Democratic response and political blame:
Bannon asserts Democrats are maneuvering to saddle Republicans with the blame, but he insists, “The Democrats are shutting down the government. And what Russ and the team over at omb... have literally got a plan.”
(Steve Bannon, [14:13])
Timestamps: [21:38]–[41:20]
Unusual White House Reception:
Bannon highlights atypical protocol surrounding Netanyahu’s arrival—specifically, the lack of a color guard and ceremonial flags, calling attention to possible strains in the U.S.-Israel relationship.
21 Point Plan & Gaza:
Trump’s "21 Point Plan," discussed in recent UN sidebar meetings with Arab leaders, is interpreted by Bannon as groundwork for a two-state solution and redevelopment of Gaza, with no American peacekeepers or money involved. He hints this opposes Netanyahu’s more hawkish policies.
Firm stance on the West Bank:
Trump, post-Arab meetings, is described as “adamantly” opposing Israeli takeover of the West Bank: “He said it three or four times... No takeover of the West Bank, None. Three times. Boom, boom, boom. Couldn't be more adamant.”
(Steve Bannon, [26:18])
Criticisms of Netanyahu:
Bannon and guests suggest Netanyahu prioritizes his political survival over Israel’s or America’s best interests and is meddling in U.S. politics:
Timestamps: [29:40], [36:09]–[41:20]
Allegations of Deceit in Urgency Claims:
Bannon relitigates the rush to attack Iran, alleging Israeli officials misrepresented the immediacy of the Iranian nuclear threat to drag the U.S. into regime change. Citing the Times of Israel, Bannon says intelligence suggested Iran was "two years away, not two weeks" from a weapon.
Alternative policy approach:
Bannon calls for sanctions and pressure via economic means rather than military intervention:
Timestamps: [38:09]–[39:40]
Timestamps: [54:59]–[59:48]
Lindell on Election Machines:
Lindell doubles down on fighting against voting machines despite mounting legal/financial setbacks, claiming “Once you know what I know, we wouldn't have a country… We have the worst election platforms in the world.”
(Mike Lindell, [58:58])
On principle over profit:
Small victories:
He highlights Dallas County's move to paper ballots for upcoming primaries as a “great breakthrough.” ([59:38])
On government shutdown brinkmanship:
On Russ Vogt and ‘deconstructing the administrative state’:
On Netanyahu’s claims:
On U.S. sovereignty and foreign policy:
Lindell’s vow: