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This is an iHeart podcast. For months, I had to avoid Jeffrey. But he told me that if I wanted to succeed as a Ford model, he could make it happen. And he was right. He introduced me to Katie Ford and many others in the entertainment business. His grip on the modeling business was undeniable. Not just the Ford family, but Victoria's Secret. Faith Cates, Jean Luc Brunel. Victoria's Secret. Epstein's reach went to the very top of fashion. He could make a model's career. What I didn't realize then was that once he lured someone like me in, he could also destroy my career if I did not do what he wanted me to do. In New York City, countless young women were abused by him. Everyone in the industry knew. Yet he was too powerful to stop. He had friends in all of our entertainment and arts, and his value to those friends made him untouchable. But I ask you, why? Who was he to our government that he was allowed to operate openly for decades? Why was he allowed to sponsor visas for young models using their immigration status as leverage to abuse them? How about that? How about it? And silence them. Epstein was not just a serial predator. He was an international human trafficker. And many around him knew this. Many participated, and many profited. And yet he was protected. I know what it's like to be trafficked to others. And I know that the files contain the names of powerful men who have been shielded because of their fame or their fortune. So I stand here today, not just for myself, but for every woman who has been silenced, exploited, and dismissed. Thank you. And we are not asking for pity. We are demanding accountability. Congress must choose. Will you continue to protect predators, or will you finally protect survivors? Transparency is justice. Release the files and the secrecy. And stand with us in declaring that no one, no billionaires, no politicians, not world leaders, is above the law. And let me announce now, several of us Epstein survivors have been discussing creating our own list of names. We know the names. Many of us were abused by them. Now, together as survivors, we will confidentially compile the names. We all know we're regularly in the Epstein world. And it will be done by survivors. And for survivors, no one else is involved. Stay tuned for more details on that. Because history is watching. And so are the women who will come after us. Thank you. Thank you. If that's not bravery, I do not know what is. Okay, we're bringing up another group of women. Ashley, Danny, Jess, Haley, and Wendy, come on up.
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Okay. We are watching live from Capitol Hill. It's been moved up a little Bit. It's supposed to be 10:30. The victims. This is the victims of Jeffrey Epstein's trafficking. They're on Capitol Hill today. Let's cut back to cover this in its entirety, then probably go to the White House for the arrival of the Polish president. Let's go back to Capitol Hill.
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Survivor of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Some things I want to say to any survivors out there who feel like they don't matter. It. It doesn't matter if you went once or countless times. We were groomed, we were manipulated, and we were taken advantage of. For decades, survivors have been suffocated by speculation. We've been mocked, we've been doubted, we've been retraumatized. While those that hide in secret, while those responsible hide in secrecy. Why don't we deserve justice? This is not partisan, however, this is very political, as the only path to justice is through our political system. And this is about justice. This is about accountability. This is about protecting the innocence of our children and honoring the dignity of survivors. Everywhere we turn, the story follows us. It's in headlines, jokes, music, grocery store checkout lines, random conversations that you hear people having in restaurants. For more than 20 years, we've been unable to escape it. And every time new promises are made, our sparks of hope are lit only to be extinguished again. We are tired. However, we are not going away. We will not stop or give up, and we will be on the front lines of this battle. We are no longer scared. And let's be clear, there were so many enabling adults, those enablers actively turned a blind eye, and they are the greatest danger. You know who you are, as do we. You allowed us to be abused for a fat check and a cushy life, which you still have. And to those in power, hear us clearly. Do your job. Release what needs to be released and hold those responsible accountable. Survivors, sorry. Thank you. Survivors deserve peace. Survivors deserve truth. Survivors deserve justice. And to my fellow survivors, your voice matters, your story matters, and you matter. Together, we are louder than the silence. Together, we will not stop until justice is done. Good afternoon.
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Wow.
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A lot of people showed out for us today. I wasn't expecting all this support. What an incredible feeling. And thank you for everybody for being here. I'm going to try to make this as quick so the other girls don't have to be crunching for time. My name is Haley Robson. I came out in 2019 on the documentary Filthy Rich. I have been very focused on bringing more awareness to all of the survivors. I am so proud to Stand with them. I am so proud to be up here to support them because they deserve all the love and support. And I just want to say to the women who chose this moment to come out for the very first time about your abuse. I cannot think of a more important, greater purpose in life than to stand in solidarity when time is against us, when the politicians have made us an enemy, when the world is watching and everybody is hoping for some type of result. Thank you for choosing this moment for the first time to be so brave, to come out and stand in solidarity. I prayed for a moment. I prayed for this moment where God would fill us with reinforcements.
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I want to acknowledge all the women.
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Unfortunately, that couldn't be here today, because I think that is the only list of real great importance. And we should never forget the voices that were not only silenced, but that are not here today. We should never forget the sacrifices that they made. So today I would like to take a moment for Virginia, Sky, Danielle and Carolyn. Their voices were just as powerful and they were silenced just as much. And for some reason, I can feel their spirit, especially Virginia's, today. She would be so proud and she would be so beside herself to see this one moment. We have all came together to unite and for our government and for the politicians who have taken our trauma and have weaponized it against us, making it unbearable, making it unlivable, making it hard to move on in a life that we wish to live. Happiness and joy and peace and injustice that can only come from within at this point. And we have gotten to this point. Shame on you. Shame on you for using our trauma to weaponize this moment. We are not going to be fooled by your trickery. We are not going to be fooled by the lies, by the conspiracy theories. We are the keys to this situation. We have the truth. And the FBI knows the truth. The government knows the truth. You may pull the wool over the sheep's eyes, but we are the keys. We know who was involved. We know the game. We know the players. And we are sitting here for 20 years waiting for you to get up and do something. Well, guess what? Your time is up. And now we're doing it. How do you follow that? Hello, everybody. My name is Wendy Passante, and I was abused by Jeffrey Epstein when I was 14 years old. I'm not here to relive what happened. I'm here to be counted. And to make sure others are counted, too. I once believed my silence was strength. Hold it together. Don't draw attention. Today I know that strength sounds like my voice. It sounds like everybody's voice is up here. Silence only protects predators, not children. People ask, what about the victims? We're here. We're here today. And there's more of us. I stand with many who are still finding their words. I live in a world where being understood is a struggle. Where people in power would rather sweep us under the rug in hopes that we'll go away. We won't. Being a survivor is not a headline. It's our life. We have to live it. It's panic in a grocery store. It's smiling at work while my hands tremble. It's waking up at 3am with my heart racing and not knowing why. It's living with ptsd, anxiety and depression. And your nervous system's on guard at all times, even in the safest room around the safest people. Healing isn't tidy. It's therapy. It's weightless. It's trying a medication and trying again over and over for years. It's setting boundaries with some people who won't understand. Survival isn't weakness. It's wisdom we've earned. If you are a survivor, hearing me, your voice is never too late, too much or too little. If all you could do was show up today, you're already trying to make a difference. You do not owe anyone your story. You are owed safety, care and belief. Your breath is proof that harm does not get the last word. Word. I'm not asking anyone to take a political side. I really don't even follow a lot of political politics. I'm asking you to take a stand in solidarity. Protect the vulnerable, not the powerful. Protect children and survivors, not titles and reputations. Our silence doesn't keep us safe. And I hope today's courage from all of us ladies can help someone else be safer tomorrow. We are here and we refuse to be erased. So thank you guys for listening to all of us and being here today. Hello everybody. Thank you for being here. As I stand here today and look around, I want to acknowledge what it feels like to be in the presence of these incredibly brave, powerful women that I stand up here with. I am so empowered by each and every one of your fortitude and I am following in the brave footsteps of those that came before me. While we each have our own stories and walk down different paths of life, we are bonded together as survivors. When I look into these beautiful faces, I am reminded that we all started our journeys with big hopes, dreams. Jeffrey Epstein and his co conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell stole and systematically destroyed those dreams. We are A mosaic of shattered hopes and dreams at their hands. As an aspiring dancer, the manipulation came in forms of offering me dance studio space, discussing opportunities to meet with ballet masters, and aiding a very ill family member of mine. None of which would ever come to pass. Instead, I was left in a cycle of abuse that wore me down and broke me. When it happened, I would have to completely disassociate. Similar to a coma my brain would need to protect itself. So I would retreat and choreographing in my own head to escape the cruel acts that were being carried out on my body. After I would go to the studio bundled in giant baggy clothing. I remember standing there, staring in the mirror as if it were an empty void. I was past the point of tears. There was nothing left. I was a hollow shell of myself. I could no longer watch my body move, let alone dance. He had taken something sacred from me. Two decades later, I am still experiencing lingering effects of what happened to me as a teenager. I am just one story in the mosaic of women taking back their power by confronting the horrific truths of their pasts. Due to Jeffrey Epstein and Gillian Maxwell, we stand here today in the nation's capital for no other reason than to say that women's voices will not be marginalized. We stand together as a mosaic of stories, but we're also finding our way back to ourselves. We are reclaiming the fragmented shards of the hopes and dreams of our past to paint a better future for the next generation of women. This story has come to Washington to be told. We will be heard. Thank you. My name is Jess Michaels, and I'm a 1991 Jeffrey Epstein Survivor. 27 years. For 27 years, I thought I was the only one that Jeffrey Epstein raped. I believed I was alone. And I was kept silent by the shame that was inside me and by the fear outside in the world. But I wasn't the only one. None of us were. And what once kept us silent now fuels that fire and the power of our voices. We are not the footnotes in some infamous predators tabloid article. We are the experts and the subjects of this story. We are the proof that fear did not break us. And we don't. We don't just speak for ourselves, but for every survivor whose story is still unspoken. For those not with us today, for Virginia, whose courage lit the path and opened the door for us to walk through, this is what power looks like. Survivors united, voices joined, refusing to be dismissed. Know this. Justice and accountability are not favors from the powerful. They are obligations decades overdue. This moment began with Epstein's crimes. But it's going to be remembered for survivors demanding justice, demanding truth, demanding accountability. And we will not stop until survivor voices shape justice, transform culture, and define the future. We are no longer whispers. We are one powerful voice too loud to ignore, and we will never be silenced again. Thank you. Thank you.
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Okay, this is actually a pre press conference. What's going to happen? They're going to migrate now over to the. To the well. And let's see if we can pick up anything from the microphone.
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Right there is a lawyer. Sometimes survivors are ready to be seen. They're not ready to be heard. And so we would love to bring you up because you represent so many survivors who are so critical to this story.
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Good morning, everyone. My name is Eric Fudali, and I've had the privilege of representing up to 11 survivors of Jeffrey Epstein. And one of them is standing next to me here today. This is Rosa.
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We love you, baby. It's okay.
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You may not realize this, but what I just did is the first time anyone has ever said Rosa's name publicly as being attached and being abused by Jeffrey yesterday. And this is also the first time she has ever appeared publicly as a survivor of Jeffrey Epstein. And I say that because it was last night that she flew into Washington, D.C. inspired by the solidarity of all of you, by the compassion of all of you, and by the courage of all of you to be here today. And I'm so proud of Rosa, and I'm so proud of all of you. But the truth is, Rosa shouldn't be here today. Rosa shouldn't have to be here today. And I'm going to tell you why. Because Rosa was trafficked from Uzbekistan under the guise of a modeling contract in 2009. That means that Rosa wouldn't be here today if Alex Acosta hadn't had Jeffrey Epstein in his grasp, had what every single law enforcement officer dreams of, to stop a predator in his tracks. And what did he do? He gave him a slap on the wrist and led him to continue to abuse. And had he not, Epstein never would have met Rosa, and Rosa would not have to be here today. But none of you should have to be here today.
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Right?
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None of you should have to be there today. Because if when Jeffrey Epstein was finally arrested in 2016 and under federal custody, he wouldn't have been allowed to take his own life and avoid the accountability and justice you all deserve. And none of you should be here today because Ghislaine Maxwell should not have been given a platform to deny the crimes against her who was convicted.
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Who.
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Was convicted of trafficking and tricking 14 year old girls.
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She should not have been given a platform and she should not have been.
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Rewarded after that platform in a minimum security resort.
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And none of you should have to.
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Be here today because they should just release the files.
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No more slow rolling, no more meetings.
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No more strategy, no more interviews behind closed doors.
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Release the files and give you all.
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And Rosa the accountability, the exposure, and most importantly, the closure you all deserve. Thank you.
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Our last speaker this morning is nosy stranger to the plight of survivors. And so with that, I'd love to welcome Gloria Allred to wrap us up here. Give a big round of applause to all the survivors and all the victims.
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And all the supporters today.
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I commend you. When it matters that you're here, let me just say your voice is important. But power only recognizes power. And for many years we have not exercised our power in a way that helped win change. And you all. And we all have been betrayed. I represent Alicia Arden and 26 other brave survivors of Jeffrey Epstein and some of Elaine Maxwell. And in 1997, my client, Alicia Arden.
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Went to the police in Santa Monica.
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And said that she had been the victim of sexually inappropriate conduct by Jeffrey Epstein when he invited her to be auditioning for Victoria's Secret catalog. And she went to the police and they said, why don't you think about it before you file a police report. She thought about it and came back the following week and filed the first documented police report against Jeffrey Epstein in 1997. And you all were betrayed because there was no prosecution. Believe women. Let's hear it.
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Believe women.
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Believe women. Believe women. And then the victims and all of us were betrayed. When in Florida Mr. Acosta made that deal. U.S. attorney is for the Southern District of Florida made that deal that instead of 60 felony counts that could have been filed by the United States Attorney, two counts were filed by the state attorney. And Jeffrey Epstein, without having a trial, was able to go to his office every day as part of the sentence and just sleep in the jail at night for 13 months. Is that justice? You were betrayed. And then of course, there was New York, New York, where Jeffrey Epstein was brought in, arrested. I saw him at the last hearing in federal court. And so many victims and so many survivors thought, at last there's justice. But instead of justice, there was a dead body.
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The Metropolitan Correctional center.
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And questions are still being asked. Was it suicide? Was it homicide? But the victims never got to testify at trial and conviction. Confront that sexual predator. Was that justice? This is. We're overdue for justice. We're not going to be waiting for justice. We are fighting for justice. And let me tell you, no more talk of the word pedophiles, which only means a man who is attracted to children. We're not talking about pedophiles. We're talking about sexual predators and child molesters. Let's get the word in about what the crime was that they committed. Do you agree? And finally, let me just say these predators took advantage of vulnerable children of vulnerable adults. We know how vulnerable women can be. And they abuse their power. They abuse their trust. And it's time to meet power with power. There are three stages of evolution. The first is victim. The second is survivor. And the third is fighter for change.
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Are you going to be fighters for change?
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Not just today, but every day. Not just in politics, in Congress, but in lawsuits, in speaking to people, your co workers, your children, your mothers, help them, support them to stand up to win justice. Because nobody has ever given women and children any rights. We've always had to fight to win them. We've had to fight to keep them. Will you fight that fight? And I leave you with this one of my favorite. Pray for the dead. And that's for Virginia Roberts and all those who didn't make it here today. Pray for the dead, but fight like hell for the living. Keep up the fight.
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Let me hear it.
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Keep up the fight. Keep up the fight. Keep up the fight. Keep up the fight. Thank you very much. Thank you, everybody for coming. One last unbelievable rallying cheer for all the survivors here. What do we want? When do we want it? Okay, everybody, there's the press conference conference starting in a few minutes. Do you want to just go on over and we'll meet you over there?
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Whoever wants, we're going to go live. Also you have Tom Massie and Rokuhanna. The reason this is happening today, there's a discharge petition. What? A discharge petition means that they can actually take it to the. To the floor for a vote. They got all The Democrats think 212. Massie has. He says four Republicans. So I think there are two, three other Republicans. There are 216. And I believe MTG and Nancy Mace and Lauren Boebert are the three. They're looking for more. They've got to get to 218 to pass it. This press conference is going to start momentarily. They will also have additional victims up there for Epstein, of course, maybe a couple of the lawyers representing them. Very big day on this on Capitol Hill forced by Ro Khanna's and Tom Massie's discharge petition. There is a ton of other stuff going on that we're going to try to get to by the way, as soon as they're at the podium, let's go ahead and cut to it. I got Dr. Bradley Thayer in standby. This parade last night actually was much bigger. It was a geopolitical flex. President Trump did not respond well to it. President Trump actually called out, as we mentioned yesterday on the show, that the Chinese Communist Party didn't do a whole lot of fighting in World War II and that it was essentially American blood in the Pacific that drove to the and also Lao Beijing, Chinese civilians who were not tied to the Chinese Communist Party. So President Trump put out a pretty brutal Tweet last night. Dr. Thayer is going to join us. Also, huge developments in the Google case. I think Google slipped the, you know, got out of a massive, you know, government trying to break them up. Google slipped it. There's all types of things going on in the court, in the courts. Mike Davis is over at the National Conservative Conference right now giving a speech. Mike Davis hopefully will join us. We are going to cut to the White House. The Polish president is supposed to be there. Talk to President Trump about Ukrainevery important meeting. I'm sure President Trump is going to give a press avail and I'm sure there'll be a couple of three questions about what just occurred outside the Capitol across from the Supreme Court on this pre press conference with the victims. Like I said, Ro Khanna and Tom Massey doing a discharge petition today. I don't remember ever a discharge petition working but this one I think might have some traction. Let's go. Let's cut live to the second press conference and we'll jump in right afterwards. A nation that allows rich and powerless men, young girls without consequence is a nation that has lost its moral and spiritual power. Americans ask you a very simple question. How is it that in the richest, most powerful country in the world use.
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Of these there are corrupt special.
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There is something that is rotten in Washington. Less than 1% of these files have been released. We're demanding today on the discharge petition that all of the files be released. We know we have two hundred and twelve Democrats and we have four Republicans, courageous Republicans like Thomas, Nancy, Nancy Mace of the full Epstein files. There is something that is rotten in Washington. Less than 1% of these files have been released. We are demanding today on the discharge petition that all of the files be released. We know we have two hundred and twelve Democrats and we have Four Republicans, courageous Republicans like Thomas Massie, Nancy Mace, who was so emotional yesterday after talking to the survivors, Congresswoman Boebert and Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene. We need just two more signatures to force the release. So we gather here on the steps of the Capitol to confront these corrupt forces. Today. We stand with survivors. We stand against big money. We stand to protect America's children. That is really what this is about. I now want to bring up my Republican colleague, Thomas Massie. He has shown so much courage, so much leadership. And I saw some people, I say the same thing about Marjorie Taylor Greene. She has shown so much courage on this issue. I saw some people when I was coming here calling her names. We've got to stop that. We've got to stop the partisanship on this issue. This is an issue where they both have shown real courage and leadership. And I appreciate them joining us today. Congressman Massie, I want to thank my colleague Ro Khanna for co leading this effort to bring transparency and justice for these victims. I hope my colleagues are watching this press conference. I want them to think, what if this was your sister? What if this was your daughter? When these survivors speak, the Washington establishment is asking the American public to believe something that is not believable. They're asking you to believe that two individuals created hundreds of victims and they acted alone and that the DOJ has no idea of who, who else might have been involved. That nobody else did anything that rose to a criminal enterprise. The American people know that's not true. Now the speaker of the House just offered a fig leaf to my colleagues. They're going to vote on a non binding resolution today that does absolutely nothing. I appreciate the efforts of my colleague James Comer, who's leading the Oversight Committee. They may find some information, but they're allowing the DOJ to curate all of the information that the DOJ is giving them. If you've looked at the pages they've released so far, they're heavily redacted. Some pages are entirely redacted. And 97% of this is already in the public domain. So I'm calling on my colleagues be one of the next two who sponsors this discharge petition. I think it's shameful that this has been called a hoax. Hopefully today we can clear that up. This is not a hoax. This is real. There are real survivors. There are real victims to this criminal enterprise. And the perpetrators are being protected because they're rich and powerful and political donors to the establishment here in Washington D.C. so today we're standing with these survivors and we're giving them a voice. And I want to close by thanking them. They are brave. I hope they encourage other survivors to come forward and to tell their stories, not just of Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell, but anywhere in the country. This is a message that we are sending. This is a litmus test. Can we drain the swamp? Are there people who are outside of the reach of the law? I don't think there should be. So hopefully today we'll get two more signatures on the discharge petition. That's all we need. And with that, I want to introduce the bravest woman in Congress, Marjorie Taylor Greene. I find it interesting that the three Republican co sponsors are women. These are women standing up for women. And Marjorie was the first to do it. And I think she deserves all of our gratitude for breaking that barrier and leading the way for the other Republicans. Hopefully they can find their spines as well. And with that, I give you Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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Good morning. This is my fifth year in Congress, and this is the largest press conference that I've seen since I've been here. And this is because this is an issue that matters so much to Americans. This is an issue that doesn't have political boundaries. It's an issue that Republicans and Democrats should never fight about. As a matter of fact, it's such an important issue that it should bring us all together. It's grieved me to watch the arguments and debates take place among my colleagues and even the administration. I think this is something that was worth fighting for. You see, the women behind me are going to tell you stories that you've never heard before. These are unimaginable horrors that they've lived with for their entire lives since they were very, very young. But these are also similar stories that many children, teenagers, women, and even men are enduring nightmares right now as we speak. You see, these women have been fighting since the 1990s. I heard one woman tell us yesterday, since 1996. And they have carried with them shame. But I want to tell you something. The shame does not fall on these brave, courageous women. The shame falls on every single person that coldly turned a blind eye to their abuse. The shame falls on every single person that enabled it. The shame falls on every single person that took money to continue it. And the shame falls on the people in power over the past several decades that protected the monsters, Jeffrey Epstein and his cabal that continued a nightmare. Those people deserve the shame. And today we are coming forward and we are going to fight like hell for these women because we have to fight like hell for those that are enduring sexual abuse and are living in a prison of shame. Anyone that is being abused, it is not your fault. You should live with no guilt or fear or shame. All of the fault belongs to the evil people that do these things to the innocent. This is the most important fight we can wage here in Congress is fighting for innocent people that never receive justice. And the women behind me have never received justice. And do you want to know why? It's because Jeffrey Epstein somehow was able to walk among the most rich, powerful people, not only in America, but foreign countries. Yesterday I heard countries like Saudi Arabia, Russia, and even Israel and other countries. The truth needs to come out. And the government holds the truth, that the cases that are sealed hold the truth. Jeffrey Epstein's estate holds the truth. The FBI, the doj, and the CIA holds the truth. And the truth we are demanding come out on behalf of these women, but also as a strong message to every innocent child, teenager, woman, and man that is being held captive in a abuse. This should never happen in America, and it should never be a political issue that divides us. And I want to thank Ro Khan and Thomas Massie for doing something brave, crossing political boundaries for a very important fight. And I'm honored to join both of them. And I'm honored that Nancy Mace and Lauren Boebert signed the discharge petition along with myself. And I asked my Republican colleagues not to choose just one path for justice and transparency and accountability, but I asked my Republican colleagues to choose every path for justice and accountability and transparency. And with that, I'd like to bring back Congressman Rocana to start this important press conference. Thank you very much.
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Thank you, Congresswoman Greene, for your courage and for being here. And thank you again to Congressman Massie for co leading it. I now would like to introduce two people who have been fighting this for decades. They haven't had their voice heard. The victims haven't been heard. They haven't just been on this in the last few months. They've been doing this in the wilderness for years. And they are really models of courage. Bradley Edwards and Brittany Henderson, who are the attorneys for the victims, thank you for being here. Thank you, Ro and Thomas Massey. I really appreciate you putting forth this discharge petition. It's tough to understand that we have to to be here, because this doesn't seem like a partisan issue. This is an issue. Sex trafficking and sexual abuse transcends politics. We as Americans expect equal protection under the law. And there can be no doubt that Jeffrey Epstein received far greater protection than any of the victims that he abused for years. In 2008 Courtney Wilde walked into my office because she was a part of a federal investigation into Jeffrey Epstein where all she wanted was the government to talk to her. Little did she know, the government had worked out a secret immunity deal for Jeffrey Epstein. And we had to File Jane does vs United States of America to prove that Jeffrey Epstein worked out an illegal non prosecution agreement with the government. That was 2008. It took us 10 years battling the government pro bono for the judge to ultimately determine that the victim's rights were violated. The government has mistreated them. After Jeffrey Epstein mistreated them, we then filed civil lawsuits against Ghislaine Maxwell, which has resulted in her being in prison. Our civil lawsuits led to her prosecution. We filed lawsuits against Jeffrey Epstein, against his estate, and against two financial institutions, JP Morgan, Deutsche bank, that proved that they provided, knowingly provided the financial infrastructure for a sex trafficking operation. Unfortunately, all of the documents and evidence that we have worked so hard to gather hide behind protective orders, confidentiality agreements, and bank secrecy laws. That is why this discharge petition is so important. While we have seen the documents, you have it. And when you see the documents, you're going to be appalled. And the American people deserve to see everything. When you sign this discharge petition, it should mean nothing is off limits. That means the documents in the possession of the CIA should be made available. Those in possession of the FBI going back decades should be made available. The SEC financial records in the possession of FinCEN should be made available. Everybody knows that evil, evil flourishes in the darkness. Corruption flourishes in secrecy. It is time right now to make a difference for the women that are behind me right now. They have been courageous and fought through this whole thing. Whether you are a Republican or you're a Democrat, this one is an easy call. You're an American who cares about equal rights and equal protection under the law. If you care about these women, if you care about our country and you care about this issue, this should pass with flying colors. I really appreciate everybody being here.
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Hi. Good morning. My name is Brittany Henderson. And I think in addition to thanking the wonderful congressmen and women who are here today, we need to thank the women, and not just the women who are going to speak, but the other women who are standing behind them, along with other lawyers, Sigrid McCauley and people who have been fighting for a very, very long time for the world to give this kind of attention to an issue that it should have had forever. This administration has the opportunity to do what the past administrations did not do. This administration can either Stand with the victims and stand for the victims, or it can continue to hurt the victims like has happened in the past. We aren't here just to ask for transparency, though. We're here to. To ask for protection. The women here represent hundreds of other women who we have spoken to, many of whom were trafficked from other countries, from Eastern European countries where women don't have the rights that we have here, women don't have the protections that we have here. And those women are terrified that their names will be released in these files. The government won't know that they're victims, to redact and protect them. So we ask that you, please, whoever is going to be in charge of redacting these files and in charge of this transparency, do it in a way that protects the women brave enough to be here, but also protects the women who are terrified that every day when they turn the TV on, something bad is going to happen to them in Ukraine, in Russia, in whatever country they live in, because no one is listening to them there. So thank you for being here. Thank you for listening. And please protect these women while we seek transparency. Good morning. My name is Anoushka DiGiorgio, and I stand before you today as a survivor of both Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. I want to thank Congressmen Massey and Khana for their role in putting together this very, very important bill. Every day of this journey toward healing has come at a profound cost to my mental health. But I am here. I chose to come because this bill really matters. I speak today not only in service of my own recovery from trauma inflicted by Maxwell and Epstein, but to honour the lives, the courage and sacrifices of Virginia Duffrey, Caroline Andriano and others who could not continue. Their voices mattered. Their stories must not be forgotten. Accountability is what makes a society civilized. Equal opportunity and equal consequence for all consequences are not about punishment alone. They exist to deter future harm, to protect vulnerable and to set a standard of justice. If Ghislaine Maxwell were pardoned, it would undermine all the sacrifices I made to testify and make mockery of mine and all survivors suffering. That is why the Epstein files. Transparency act is so essential. It requires the Department of Justice release all the records related to Epstein and Maxwell investigations, flight logs, immunity deals, internal communications, and even the records surrounding Epstein's detention and death. And crucially, it forbids withholding documents simply because of embarrassment, reputational harm or political sensitivity. This is about ending secrecy wherever abuse of power takes root. But transparency alone is not enough. Survivors need protection, resources and legal support. If this Congress is serious about justice. Then let this moment also affirm your commitment to provide victims with the legal aid they need to confront abusers, to navigate complex systems and to reclaim their power. Transparency must be matched by support, or else too many victims will remain silent out of fear and lack of access. The statistics demand action. Nearly one in five women in America will experience experienced rape or attempted rape in her lifetime. Every 74 seconds, someone is sexually assaulted. Every nine minutes, that person is a child. These are not numbers. They are people. They are your daughters, your sons, your constituents, your friends. Statistically, one in five of your families will face this nightmare. The days of sweeping this under the rug are over. We the survivors, say no more. I want to help create a world where survivors of sexual abuse and abuse of power can come forward safely. And I ask Congress to join me in that effort, not only by passing this bill, but by ensuring that those who step forward have legal support to find, face their abusers and see justice done. When Judge Berman gave Epstein survivors the chance to finally speak, the world listened. After so many years, survivors were heard. That moment was historic. And so is this moment. For me, the turning point was when I had my daughter. And on the day she was born, I knew I had a responsibility to protect her and to protect all children. I have to use my voice, the voice that had been silenced by fear and shame for so many years. Make no mistake, my polished exterior is a shield hiding a wound that still bleeds. But through this wound, I have found purpose to be part of lasting change in how we confront exploitation and abuse. And to be clear, the only motive for opposing this bill would be to conceal wrongdoing. You have a choice. Stand with the truth or with the lies that have protected predators for decades. I am no longer weak. I am no longer powerless. And I'm no longer alone. And with your vote, neither will the next generation be. President Trump, you have so much influence and power in this situation. Please use that influence and power to help us, because we need it now. And this country needs it now. Thank you. Hello. My name is Annie Farmer, and I was 16 years old when I was flown to New Mexico to spend a weekend with Epstein and Maxwell. That same year, 1996, my sister, Maria Farmer, reported what happened to me. There was, along with reporting her own assault at their hands and their theft of sensitive photos of herself, of me and our younger sister that she had taken for her work as a figurative painter. I am now 46 years old. Thirty years later, we still do not know why that report wasn't properly investigated or why Epstein and his associates were allowed to harm hundreds, if not thousands of other girls and young women. We have never been told whether those images were found when they discovered a large amount of child sexual abuse material on his property. As a psychologist, I understand that when the system's meant to protect us, recreate the abuse cycle, the betrayal that occurs can be just as damaging as the original trauma. This happens when survivors of these crimes are not believed, when our well being is not weighed as heavily as those who have more resources or more privilege, and when perpetrators of these crimes are given a platform rather than the survivors of them. For so many years, it felt like Epstein's criminal behavior was an open secret. Not only did many others participate in the abuse, it is clear that many were aware of his interest in girls and very young women and chose to look the other way because it benefited them to do so. They wanted access to his circle and his money. Their choice to align with his power left those of us who had been harmed by this man and his associates feeling very isolated. I could never have imagined being here today and this chorus of support that we have all received. I have been sent so many notes and messages from people with no direct connection to this case who've expressed their solidarity with us. And I believe that is because, in part, as Anoushka so explained so well, this is an extremely widespread issue of child sexual abuse, of sexual exploitation, of sexual violence. This affects almost every family in some way. From my conversations with women in these last few days and from all of the support that we've received, is very clear to me that we are not going away. We are not going to be quiet, and we are not going to give up. And I ask the American public to stand with us and not give up. At a time with record high levels of distrust in our institutions and a perception that there are two Americas, one for those with power and privilege and one for everyone else. Passing this Epstein transparency bill is one important step that can be taken to prove to Americans that the government does not side with sexual perpetrators. A thorough public review of this information is an important step in preventing the type of systemic failures that have occurred in this case and harmed all of us. An important step towards healing for those involved. Thank you. Hello, everyone. I'd like to say thank you, everyone, for being here today on this very powerful and special day for all of us here. My name is Marina Lacerda. I was minor victim 1 in federal indictment of Jeffrey Epstein in New York in 2019. I was one of those of girls that I personally know who were forced into Jeffrey's Mansion on 9 East 71 street in New York City when we were just kids. Today is the first time that I ever speak publicly about what happened to me. I never thought that I would find myself here. The only reason that I am here is because it feels like the people who matter in this country finally care about what we have to say. As an immigrant from Brazil, I feel empowered knowing that the little girl struggling to get by at 14 and 15 years old finally has a voice. For the first time, I feel like I matter as an American. I was only 14 years old when I met Jeffrey. It was the summer of high school. I was working three jobs to try to support my mom and my sister. When a friend of mine in the neighborhood told me that I could make $300 to give an older guy a massage. It went from a dream job to the worst nightmare. Jeffrey assistant Leslie Groff would call me and tell me that I needed to be at the house so often that I ended up dropping out of high school before ninth grade, and I never went back. From 14 to 17 years old, I went and worked for Jeffrey. Instead of receiving an education every day, I hoped that he would offer me a real job as one of his assistants or something, Something important. I would finally have made it big as, like we say, the American dream. That day never came. I had no way. I had no way out. I was. Until he finally told me that I was too old. There are many pieces of my story that I can't remember, no matter how hard I try. The constant state of wonder causes me so much fear and so much confusion. My therapist says that my brain is just trying to protect itself. But it's so hard to begin to heal knowing that there are people out there who know more about my abuse than I do. The worst part is that the government is still in possession right now of the documents. And information about that could help me remember and get over all of this, maybe, and help me heal. They have documents with my name on them that were confiscated from Jeffrey Epstein's house and could help me put the pieces of my own life back together. But I don't have any of it. And I know the same is true for many of these women. We are here to support this bill today, not only for transparency, but for the American people. But if the government is going to release these documents to the public describing the crimes committed by Jeffrey Epstein and others, the least that they can do is give me my documents that they have about Me. The other survivors deserve the same respect from our government. While our identifying information must be redacted to the public, it is equally important to provide the victims themselves with unredacted information. I will never forget when the FBI agent showed up in my door in 2008. Jeffrey Epstein hired a lawyer to represent me, or more like to represent him. I like to say I couldn't ask any questions and I had no idea what was going on. I was terrified until today. I think most of us are still terrified. I thought somebody was going to kill me. I thought something was going to happen to my sister or my mother. It went further out to even maybe thinking something would happen in Brazil with my family. And then one day the lawyer said that everything was just going to go away like nothing happened. I didn't need to testify. When I asked him why, he gave no explanation. That was it. So why, why was I never called to testify then? We could have saved so many women. We could have saved so many lives from being abused. Why did he get away with it in 2008? Why was he able to go on in the abuse with hundreds of girls after the Florida investigation? Why didn't they let me testify to help stop him? Our government couldn't have saved, could have saved so many women. But Jeffrey Epstein was too important and those women didn't matter. Why? Well, we matter now. We are here today and we are speaking and we are not going to stop speaking today. I stand here with the women who have really helped me to find the strength to come out and come forward to share my story for the very first time. Together, we are stronger than ever. While she may not be with us, Virginia Roberts, we will continue to use our voices to strengthen yours always. Thank you. Hi, my name is Courtney Wild. I just wanted to take a second and just have a moment of silence for all the women survivors that aren't here with us today that passed away due to anxiety, depression, trying to keep up with this case. A moment of silence, please. Thank you. My name is Courtney Wild. I was only 14 years old when I was introduced to Jeffrey Epstein by a 13 year old friend of mine. The details of the abuse that he inflicted on me for years is not important. Today in 2028, I was cooperating with the federal government, government and the investigation of Jeffrey Epstein. They sent me a letter telling me to be patient because this was going to be a lengthy investigation. But at the same time they refused to talk to me and tell me what was going on. So I hired an attorney, Brad Edwards, because I was hopeful to get some answers when I walked into his office at 19 years old. Brad sued the government for refusing to tell me what was going on under the Crime Victim Rights Act. The only reason anyone ever found out that the government had already given Jeffrey Epstein immunity through the non prosecution agreement was because our lawsuit forced the government to tell us otherwise. Nobody would even know that today. Sometimes it's hard to believe that I had to sue the United States just to learn that my abuser was given immunity. I started as you Jane Doe, but I decided to. I was proud enough to take on our country and I was on the right side of history. We fought the government for 10 years to prove that the government violated our rights as crime victims and the crime victims rights in order to protect a pedophile. We had to win the 11th Circuit Court Appeals to force the government to turn over thousands of pages of emails between Jeffrey Epstein and the government. Those emails provided the proof of proof that the government worked very hard with Jeffrey Epstein to violate our rights. Why? Why did the government work so hard to protect Jeffrey and not so hard to protect me and my other innocent friends? Why was Jeffrey so important to the government and why was I so insignificant? Why did nobody but our lawyers care before now? It seems people have only started to care because of Twitter and politics. But I would like to say this has nothing to do with politics. This is not a blue thing or a red thing. This is an everyone thing. We can all agree on this. The injustice that has happened here multiple over and over. Everybody that talks about this just seems to make it worse. We need transparency. It's time for us to see beyond the curtain. Why was Jeffrey Epstein so protected? Who is still being protected and who protected them all? So the world can understand how Jeffrey was able to abuse so many of us for so long. I was lucky to have Brad Edwards, Brittany Henderson and Paul Cassell take on my case pro bono and fight fearlessly over 20 years time. I would like to thank them and I'd also like to ask the Trump administration to please sign off on the Crime Victims Rights Reformed Act. The Courtney Wild Crime Victims Rights Reformed act that's we're trying to get passed here so we can close the loopholes in the CVRA case that Epstein's attorney used to their benefit to get to get away with this. Thank you so much. Good morning. First and foremost, we want to extend.
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Our deepest gratitude to Brad and Brittany Edwards, Congressman Massie and Kana, and above all the brave survivors who have entrusted us with the privilege of Speaking today on behalf of Virginia, Robert Giuffre as.
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Her family.
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We are here today because.
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We support h.
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The Epstein files transparency act in its entirety. But as much as this bill is about shining a light on truth, it's not just about the bill.
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This is about justice.
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This is about survivors. This is about justice against the rich.
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And powerful who have stolen something from.
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These women and many children at the time. Their freedom. The freedom to live their life without mental and physical scars that have been inflicted upon them by those who thought they were untouchable. The same freedom that these monsters took from these survivors, they should never be afforded. They should never be allowed to continue their lives with impunity. Let's be clear.
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This is not a political issue.
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This is not about left or right.
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This is about humanity.
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This is about doing what's right.
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And this is about ensuring that the future we leave behind isn't one where the powerful can hide behind their wealth.
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Their influence, and their money to evade justice. I plea to you, whether you're a.
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Dad, a mom, a brother or a sister, look your young ones in the face, look them in the eye and tell them you didn't stand against the very people who raped, molested, and preyed.
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Upon children and young women. Tell them you were willing to negotiate a deal. Money should never be what makes something right or wrong. If you vote no, your stance will be clear.
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You will be choosing to stand on the side of the rich and powerful.
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Allowing money to buy your way out of the consequence.
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But here's my one ask.
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Look these survivors in the eye and tell them why. Then look the people of the United States in the eye and tell them why. And then when you're alone, look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself why. Virginia said it best, and I quote, I have physical and mental scars that will never heal. I have memories that will never go away. They say time can heal, but this won't. Not until the justice system makes an example out of these people with so called privileges. I just call it money. The only time I can begin to.
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Heal is when their freedom is taken from them, just like they did to.
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Me and literally thousands of other victims.
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The survivors of this horrific abuse are watching.
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The American people are watching. History is watching. Which side will you be on? Thank you.
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Hello, my name is Jennalisa Jones, and I was only 14 years old when my friend brought me over to Jeffrey Epstein's house in Palm beach in 2003. I had a terrible home life, but I was such an innocent kid then. I always did My best in school and I had such a positive outlook on life until that day that I met Jeffrey. I have never been more scared in my life than I was that first time that he hurt me. I remember crying the entire way home thinking about how I couldn't ever tell anyone about what actually happened in that house. This guy was so rich and had so many pictures with so many famous people and no one would have ever believed me if I told them. I want to thank Congressman Rowe and Congressman Thomas Massie for having me here today. It was really hard for me to find my voice and to become strong enough to speak about my abuse. I didn't come forward until 2019 and even when and even then, it was like I was afraid of a ghost. I know that I was just a little kid, but sometimes I still feel like it is my fault that this happened. Being given the opportunity to speak at the United States Capitol building about something that is so important, not just to me and the women before you, but to the entire country. Together we can finally make a change. And that is thanks to the people like these two congressmen and their teams who actually care about the victims. If you are a member of Congress and you are listening to all of us speak here today, please really listen to us. Please vote for this bill to be passed. Please recognize how important it is for transparency relating to Jeffrey Epstein. Whether you are a Democrat or a Republican, this does not matter. This is not about sides. You are an American and you are a person who has chosen to serve in an elected position to stand up for those you represent who cannot always stand up for themselves. We are those people. We are the Americans that you promised to protect and we need your help. Please, President Trump, pass this bill and help us. Make us feel like our voices are finally being heard. Thank you. Thank you. Good afternoon, My name is Haley Robson. I was a 16 year old high school student athlete who made good grades and had high aspirations for college. When I was recruited and asked by a classmate of mine alongside with a 20 year old male if I wanted to give an old rich guy a massage. But what high school school girl would not want to do that? That day changed my life forever. And when I got into the massage room, Jeffrey Epstein undressed and asked me to do things to him, my eyes welled up with tears and I have never been more scared in my life. When it was over, he made. He paid me $200 and requested in exchange that I bring a girl each time to make another $200. I told him I did not want to do that. And then he gave me an ultimatum. Either you come here and massage me when I call you or you bring me friends of yours to massage and I will give you 200 per girl for each time she comes. I felt and hoped to never hear from him again. But he called me every day. He was so wealthy and powerful and he would not let me go. I felt I had no choice. If I disobeyed him, I knew something bad would happen. So knowing I did not want to be sexually abused. Sorry. I started to bring him other girls from my high school and he paid me $200. $200 for bringing them. I just hoped each time it would be the last time. One day, the stepmom of one of the girls brought him and called the police on Jeffrey Epstein. The police then called me, called me in for questioning. I had told them the truth despite the fact that I was a teenager and a minor and I was able to tell the police the names of all the other victims. The police treated me like a criminal. I had by this time had turned 18. I had been with Jeffrey since I was 16 and for two years. So they had told me I distribute, I distributed to the. So they told me I was going to be arrested. My name was then distributed to the press as a co consent conspirator of my abuser who I detested. My entire world was crashing in around me and I started being threatened and bullied till this day, still receiving death threats. I was singled out and for many years had to suffer a smear campaign of lies about me because of the way that I was portrayed by the press. The press made me out to be a predator when I was just a 16 year old little girl who was sexually abused by a powerful man and an evil man. For years I had no friends. My boyfriend was murdered and there was nowhere to turn. The government, after investigating more, learned that I was true a victim. But the damage was done and it was too late. There was no way to undo the harm the press had caused me. In 2019, I met Brad and Brittany. I met Brad Edwards and Brittany Henderson. They changed my life and they believed in me and have helped me to finally heal. Healing is a process and I may never get there. But the passage of this bill requiring the government to produce all the evidence that it is gathered on Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell is a huge component of healing for me and for the many other women who have suffered for so long for many reasons. First, we and the rest of the world need Answers. Why was he so protected? And why didn't anyone ever care to stop him? It doesn't take a brain surgeon to know that if he is spending thousands of dollars a day paying high school girls, he abuses and other access tools and had a lot of access to cash. I learned through my attorneys in the JPM JP Morgan class action case that there were years when his staff withdrew over a million dollars in cash a year. Was that not a big enough red flag? There were riot transfers to other victims. And the government. And the government did not protect us. The banks did not protect us. So lift the curtain on these files and be transparent. Every single time a new conspiracy gets circulated in the media. Whether he is still alive, what powerful person had him murdered, who was on the Epstein client list. And there are names going around on TikTok and Instagram. We, the survivors, are suffering severely. We take our kids to school and everyone is talking about it. We can't read the news or do anything without hearing crazy stories that are only able to live on because the government continues to hide the evidence and the truth. So people just make up stories. Those stories hurt. They hurt real people. Real people who have already been hurt. And we have lost so many Epstein victims to suicide. And maintaining the real truth and secrecy only allows for conspiracy theorists to tell lies that drives up our anxiety and fears and will continue to lead to more pain, more suffering, and honestly, more deaths of innocent victims. It's time you do is right by us. Unseal all the documents. We are requesting transparency. And I am requesting every congressman and woman that goes against this bill be outed. I want to know. Thank you. Tear into the press and tear into Congress. Hi there. My name is Lisa Phillips and I'm the host of award nominated podcast called from now on a platform supporting survivors. I want to thank all of my survivor sisters who came before me today. I'll be very short. In the year 2000, I was taken to Jeffrey Epstein's island while on a photo shoot on a nearby island. Who I saw and what I experienced there was a was a glimpse into a very dark and disturbing world. For years after, I tried to avoid Jeffrey. But he had introduced me to Katie Ford, the owner of the Ford Modeling Agency. Epstein's reach went to the very top of fashion, arts and entertainment. This did not just happened to underage girls in Florida. In New York City, hundreds of young ambitious women were abused by him. Epstein was not just a serial predator. He was an international human trafficker. And many around him knew, many participated and many profited and yet he was protected. So I stand here today for every woman who has been silent, exploited, and dismissed. We are not asking for pity. We are here demanding accountability. And I'm demanding justice. Congress must choose. Will you continue to protect predators, or will you finally protect survivors? And also I would like to announce here today, us Epstein survivors have been discussing creating our own list. We know the names. Many of us were abused by them. Now, together as survivors, we will confidentially compile the names we all know who are regularly in the Epstein world. And it will be done by survivors. And for survivors, no one else is involved. Stay tuned for more details. Hello. My name is Shantae Davies, and I'm here before you today as a survivor. A survivor of decades of pain, trauma and betrayal at the hands of Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein and the people who enabled them. And a government that forked far too long refused to help. In 2002, I was living in California. A young woman with high aspirations of becoming an actress. I was already beginning to make a name for myself in the industry. A person I trusted, someone I thought was a friend, invited me to meet a powerful woman who could help advance my career. That woman happened to be Ghislaine Maxwell. I was asked to give her a massage, though I had almost no experience. And when I did, she praised me and promised introductions to someone enormously powerful, someone who could change the course of my life. And that man was Jeffrey Epstein. At first, I was an excited young woman on top of the world. Epstein flew me to his private island. He listened to my dreams, promised to help. But his promises came with a catch. The abuse began. He told me to keep it secret. He manipulated me with. With quid pro quo. I did not consent to, but I felt I had no one to turn to. He was too powerful. I was just one of the many young women trapped in his orbit. I was even taken on a trip to Africa with former President Bill Clinton and other notable figures. In those moments, I realized how powerless I was. If I spoke out, who would believe me? Who would protect me? Epstein himself was the most powerful leader of our country. Epstein surrounded himself. I'm sorry. With the most powerful leaders of our country and the world. He abused not only me, but countless others. And everyone seemed to look away. The truth is, Epstein had a free pass. He bragged about his powerful friends, including our current president, Donald Trump. It was his biggest brag, actually. And while I. What I endured will haunt me forever. I live every day with ptsd. I live as a mother trying to raise my child while distrusting a world that has betrayed me. This kind of trauma never leaves you. It breaks families apart. It shapes the way we see everyone around us. But one thing is certain. Unless we learn from this history, monsters like Epstein will rise again. There are files, government files, that hold the truth about Epstein. Who he knew, who owed him, who protected him. And why he was allowed to operate for so long without consequence. Why was Maxwell the only one held accountable when so many others played a role? Why does the government hide this information from the public? This secrecy is not protection. It's complicity. And as long as the truth is buried, justice will remain out of reach. That is why this bill matters. Passing it will bless you. Endure. Ensure that the suffering of survivors is not in vain. Passing it will bring accountability, transparency, and prevention. It will help protect the next generation of predators who seek to place themselves above the law through wealth, influence and connections. This is not just my story. It is about every survivor who carries invisible scars. It's about the weight we live with daily. It is about the families broken and the future stolen. So I ask you, President Trump and members of Congress, why do we continue to cover up sexual abuse and assault? Who are we covering for? Let the public know the truth. We cannot heal without justice. We cannot protect the future if we refuse to confront the past. Thank you.
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We're doing a split screen right now. There's going to be a massive flyover at the White House momentarily than the Polish president will arrive in the press. And I believe Brian Glenn's telling the president's kind of a press avail. Let's go back to the press conference on the discharge petition. Congressman Massie, me or Congresswoman Green in the hallways and other places, if you have questions for us, that's fine. But I wanted to see first if you have questions for the lawyers and the survivors. And Brad will facilitate any of the questions to the survivors? Yes, this question would be for the survivors. Mr. Edwards, the president has said that this Epstein issue is a hoax is the words that he used. Can we get your reactions to what you think when you hear him say that?
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President Trump? I'll answer that. Mr. President. Donald J. Trump. I am a registered Republican. Not that that matters because this is not political. However, I cordially invite you to the Capitol to meet me in person so you can understand this is not a hoax. We are real human beings. This is real trauma.
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What does it feel like emotionally to hear that.
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It'S being gutted from the inside out? Not that I would know what that feels like. But I imagine it's the anxiety build up with the depression and the survival mode, and then your nervous system goes limp and ironically is shot. And it feels like you just want to explode inside because nobody again is understanding that this is a real situation. These women are real. We're here in person. To say that it's a hoax is just not. Please humanize us. I would like Donald J. Trump and every person in America and around the world to humanize us, to see us for who we are and to hear us for what we have to say. There is no hoax. The abuse was real. Now, what goes on behind closed doors, I can't speak for that. What happens around the world politically, I cannot speak for that. But I am here with all of these women, including our attorneys, and I would be more than happy to meet with him and I will meet him halfway.
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I'm happy to speak to that. We were horrified to learn that she had been transferred to a prison camp. She is someone who was found guilty by a jury of sex trafficking. She not only we often hear that she procured women for Jeffrey, which I think is a very sort of polite and minimizing term. She also participated in abuse. She was a major architect of the scheme. And the fact that she has painted herself as a victim I think is disgusting. And it was horrifying. I think to us that we were not told about her prison transfer. We found out about it in the news. One minute, I think so. Anushka De Giorgio. I testified alongside Annie at the trial of Gillen Maxwell.
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That'S the president there with the president of Poland. They are about to. There's a massive flyover of many different types of aircraft. I think the president will be out there for a few minutes. We're going to cover the slide. The president's going to go inside. He will go up to the. He will go up to the Oval Office. Brian Glenn's there and the press pool are going to let him in. I think he's going to have the bilati and open that up immediately. On our other stream right now is the continuation of the question and answer period in the press conference for the discharge petition. Keep in mind, President Trump, the White House put out last night and to the media that they Consider support of the discharge petition to be a hostile act to the White House. That's where there is only four. Here comes more of the flyover right now. Magnificent. I think we can say that the president was less than enthusiastic about the parade he saw last night. Federal State of China up on Getter and up on Rumble had full coverage. There's the president going into the White House. He's on the South Lawn to receive the Polish president so that you get a full view of the. Of the flyover. And up on Capitol Hill, you could really hear the thunder of the flyover as they streaked down. Brian Glenn, our own Brian Glenn is in the White House. They're going to go up to a. Just lost our feed right there. Let's cut back to the press conference. We'll go back to the White House in a moment.
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We're reaching out to survivors that are scared to come forward and that also know who they were trafficked to. So that's the list that we're compiling. We're not quite sure, you know, how we're going to release that or even if we're going to. The Department of Justice needs to release the list. Right. Because for folks at home, they might be confused. You know, survivors know the names. You've seen these powerful people. Why can't you say the names? Could you. Could you just explain for folks, why do we have to say the names when the government knows the names and we're also scared to do so? Look what's happened to so many of the survivors that have revealed names. I find the question about the bill.
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B
I think it's also worth saying that having represented, I think, between our firm and Boyce Schiller, hundreds of victims, and we've talked to them about the various people that they were farmed out to. So we've created somewhat of a list. Most of these individuals, the victims, are very scared to say these names because they could get sued, they're going to get attacked, and nobody protected them the first time. And that was against one person. So is there a list? There is a list, but just to dispel kind of the common theme here, every one of these women was abused by Jeffrey Epstein, and his scheme was to personally abuse women when they reached a certain age. He did farm a section of them, some of them, out to some of his friends. That doesn't mean all of his friends. With that said, I'm more than happy to assist in helping create the list behind the scenes and see what we do with it. Go ahead.
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A
Hold on. I think if someone's interested, interested in prosecuting, they may have something different to say about sharing a list. But they're not sharing a list for nothing to happen. And that's the experience that they've had for all of these years. Thank you all. We're waiting to see the fate of this discharge petition right now as we're here. The speaker and others have said that the people he met with yesterday had concerns about your names being released if this bill were passed. And some people I talked to today are not signing the discharge petition because they say you don't want them to. Can you clarify if that is accurate? Do any of the survivors here not want to build a pod?
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B
First of all, first of all, our legislation, Ro Khanna and I went through this. We talked about this, and we were very careful to make sure that there is an exception so that personally identifiable information, not just their names, but anything they can be identified by, would not be disclosed.
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A
And can you speak to that as survivors yourself?
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B
I think all of them are on the same page that they want everything released. Yes, unequivocally. Redact personally identifying information and Release everything else.
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A
Mr. Edwards, thank you. I know it's your first time speaking. I'll go to Marina if we can.
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B
Yeah, sure.
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A
Marina, you have stayed silent for so many years. Today, this is the first time, if we understand correctly, you have never before gone public with your story and to share this. Can you help us understand why today, why now, and why here? Well, it is not okay for us to be silenced, and it's not okay for Jeffrey Epstein and everybody else to be put on a pedestal. I think everybody needs to hear from us because we know what went on. Right? And there is not only me who's been silenced. There are hundreds of women that are silenced. My hope is to stop this abuse for the future, right? For people that are coming up. For women. My daughter, for example. These people have. These women have daughters. They most definitely don't want that anymore. And I think mainly this is therapy for all of us, too. We want to. To be heard. Nobody also has never asked me to speak. That's also another thing. So I can say for all of us here we are here, we want this bill to pass. It is very important. Okay? And we need transparency. We are tired of looking at the news and seeing Jeffrey Epstein's name and saying that this is a hoax. We are tired of it. We are done. We are not going to be silenced. And I hope that my voice will bring other survivors and other victims to come along and speak up so that we can be more of a stronger voice and louder. And so what is your message to President Trump on this? Maria? Listen, I don't like to. I don't want to send a direct message to him. I'm already scared enough. Just. Just pass the vote. Listen to us. This is not a hoax. Like, it's not going to go away. And like I said on my speech earlier, we are not going to be. We're not going to be silenced anymore. We will be speaking moving forward. Wherever we need to be, we will be. And we need to pass this. Go ahead.
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B
Thank you, sir.
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A
Jordan Conrad's Gateway pundit.
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B
You know, for years we've heard that.
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A
There was an Epstein client list or some kind of list.
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B
Now we hear from DOJ that there's no list.
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A
Drunk victims. What do you guys think?
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B
I know you're working on your own list, but do you believe that Jeffrey.
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A
Epstein had a list?
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B
Yeah. So there's not a list. So here's what it was. Just like you heard everybody today. Jeffrey Epstein created through an organization of enablers of people that were on his payroll. It was a complicated scheme where others should still be investigated because they helped to enable him and operate this scheme. Without those people, he could not have done this. But the purpose was for him to personally abuse people. With that being said, certain of his friends he farmed out, certain of the women that he was exploiting too. But that wasn't the primary purpose of that scheme. And I don't think he wrote the names of those people down. There's not a list of, hey, here's all of the people that I sent females to. That's just not how that organization works, Mr. Edwards. Agreed.
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A
Is there anyone that Jeffrey Epstein was involved with or tied to the CIA or a foreign intelligence operation?
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B
I think that the safe. Safest thing for me to say is all files should. Should come out. Whether it is for this with the CIA, FinCEN, SEC, FBI. I'm not just making these up haphazardly. I'm giving you a roadmap where to look. Go ahead.
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A
I was going to ask you. The White House has said that this discharge resolution is a very hostile act. What's your response? And victim's response? And thank you all for being here.
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B
I'll go first and then I'll let them. They're much more important than to me. But I don't understand why it's a hostile act. I can tell you that I Talked to President Clinton, I'm sorry, President Trump back in 2009 and several times after that. He didn't think that it was a hoax then. In fact, he helped me. He got on the phone, he told me things that were helping our investigation. Now, our investigation wasn't looking into him, but he was helping us then. He didn't treat this as a hoax. So at this point in time, I would hope that he would revert back to what he was saying to get elected, which is, I want transparency. This about face that occurred, none of us understand it. In fact, I don't understand how this is an issue that's even up for debate. How do you not stand behind these women after you've heard their stories and know that hundreds of them were abused? And it was only because files are being kept in secrecy. The world should know who he is, who protected him. And the other people that are out there to be investigated, need to be investigated. Sir, are there any. Are there any people who are currently serving in government who are named, who you know of, are in these files, who you had relations with, anything of that sort? Who Jeffrey Epstein connected you with? Are you willing to say yes or no? I don't think I can answer that.
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A
Virginia Roberts, who pray correct. Because they're saying they're being scared to talk. I think she's referring to my. Hi, Anoushka DiGiorgio. I have been threatened. I was threatened by phone. My daughter was threatened when I was volunteering to participate by means of being a witness in a civil lawsuit that Virginia Giuffre was bringing against Ghislaine Maxwell. I have been followed. I have been stalked. I have been followed not only by journalists, but by people who do not get out of the car and do not try and talk to me and just drive behind me as I drive my daughter to school. So the fear is very real for us. I have also been in multiple situations with both Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, where they have been direct and indirectly about implying and saying that if I was to talk, if I was to bring any kind of trouble, then there would be severe consequence, including death. Just to add to that, you know, Maxwell also threatened my sister, Maria Farmer. You know, when the FBI did nothing about her initial report. You know, we did. She reported individually at that time. And then individual 2002, we spoke to a reporter at Vanity Fair, telling our stories, fearful that perhaps other people were being harmed. You know, we were not. We believed that was going to make a difference. We believed that would be put in print. And that story was crushed. And it was because of their power. And the message that we got from that was direct threats from Maxwell to my sister about her well being and her safety and that of our family. So there have been, I think many people have similar stories of threats. That has been a very real part of this case.
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B
Go ahead over here. Do any of today's survivors speaking.
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A
Did anybody here ever have any connection.
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B
Or interaction with Epstein's alleged financier, Leslie?
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A
No. No. Do you want to address that? I just want to say one thing that's very clear. When people say, you know, please share names, there are names that are very well known, like that of Les Wexner, who everyone knows supplied an enormous amount of Epstein's financial wealth and allowed this operation to happen. So it's, I think, confusing to many of us why there have not been more ramifications for him and he's been seen as a victim when clearly I believe there's more to it.
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B
So you represented Virginia Roberts, who prayed for many years. She eventually had to repent the allegations that she made against Alan Dershowitz. She alleged that.
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A
All right, next question.
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B
Why is it that she should be.
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A
No, we're not answering. Anybody else? How did the victims feel about the.
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B
Interview that was given to Galaine Maxwell by Todd Blanche?
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A
Ma', am, I think that you had a question when you talked in the past. They still don't have my question. You'll care. When you talk in the past on MSNBC about the existence of the Epstein birthday vote. Have you yourself, in the course of litigation, seen it?
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B
I don't know that we're able to reveal what we've seen and what we have not seen by way of protective order. But my point being in that circumstance was if anybody wants answers, there's an easy place to get it. I told you where to get it. I said, the estate of Jeffrey Epstein has it service opinion on them. They'll turn it over. And if we had served a subpoena on them in the past, they would have turned it over and we would have seen it, which I don't usually miss subpoenas like that. So there we go. You know, to your question about the. The allegations, there's a simple answer. Release the files. Let the American public decide. Instead of harassing, instead of. I gave you your saying, made up a grievous allegations against a prominent individual, among others, and then had to admit.
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A
He knows what I'm talking about.
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B
That contained hugely salacious allegations against a whole. You've been heard. You've been heard. Shouldn't you tell the public about this? You've been heard. And even Alan Dershowitz. Even Alan Dershowitz released the files. Release the files. That is the answer, and that's what we're here for. And that is.
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A
Can you elaborate? This is an I heart podcast.