THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2025 (EP.#4755)

Summary

Podcast Summary: THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2025 (EP.#4755)

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Stephen K. Bannon (iHeartPodcasts)
Date: September 4, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of The War Room with Stephen K. Bannon delivers a rapid-fire discussion of two major, controversial storylines:

1. The political fallout and skepticism surrounding the recent handling of the Jeffrey Epstein documents, victims’ testimonies, and the bipartisan push for full disclosure.
2. The explosive implications of a leaked “hot mic” conversation between Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping discussing organ harvesting for elite longevity, as analyzed by journalist Jan Jekielek.

Contributors include regular guests like Viva Fry and Jan Jekielek, who offer legal, political, and geopolitical perspectives. The episode maintains a confrontational, urgent, and polemical tone, challenging mainstream narratives and raising concerns about transparency, justice, and geopolitics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Epstein Files, Congressional Testimonies & Political Intrigue

Summary:

• The hosts and guests criticize the handling of the recent congressional hearing related to Epstein’s victims and calls for disclosure of all related documents.
• There is strong frustration with how the proceedings appeared politicized, murky, and ultimately unsatisfying for victims and those demanding transparency.

Key Points:

• Weaponization & Co-optation Allegations

  • Many feel the movement for transparency has been hijacked for partisan and self-promotional purposes, veering far from genuine justice for victims.
  • “This has been co opted and hijacked in the exact same way the MeToo movement was co opted and hijacked. To be weaponized for political purposes and to go after anybody who was an ideological adversary.” – Viva Fry [01:57]

• Failure to Name Names

  • Frustration over victims not naming their abusers or providing a promised “list” during hearings. Explanations (fear, NDAs, defamation risk) are met with skepticism.
  • “If you're living in fear of what your abusers might do to you, you don't come out on a platform and say, ‘I'm gonna name you in the future.’ … Have they signed NDAs? ... If they've received compensation and signed NDAs and now they say, well we want you to release the names because we already got compensated ... that sort of does taint their pursuit of justice ...” – Viva Fry [04:19]

• Political Ramifications

  • Politicization is seen as undermining legitimate bipartisan efforts, such as Rep. Thomas Massie’s push for transparency (backed by Ro Khanna).
  • “If I'm Thomas Massie, I'm irritated … it is not going to garner any more support for what I think should have been a pretty straightforward thing to do. Pass the bill, release the documents ...” – Viva Fry [05:48]

• The ‘List’: Myth, Malice, or Misdirection?

  • Debate whether any concrete list of “unindicted co-conspirators” or VIP clients exists. References to statements by Pam Bondi and Alan Dershowitz suggesting a list do little to clarify.
  • “You can't say certain things in a certain position and then just walk it back and pretend like it never happened.” – Viva Fry [10:00]

• Activist Lawyering & Media Grandstanding

  • Criticism of figures like Gloria Allred for turning the hearings into “cheap, tawdry, and partisan” spectacles, distracting from the central issue of disclosure and justice.

Memorable Moment:

• “The entire movement has been bastardized, corrupted, and now is being counterproductive ...” – Viva Fry [08:38]

Timestamps

• [01:57] Viva Fry’s initial critique of the hearing
• [03:28] Legal reasons not to name names (NDAs, defamation)
• [07:30] Dershowitz, retractions, and the list controversy
• [10:00] The credibility crisis for officials who claim they've seen “the list”

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2. China, Organ Harvesting, and the Global Elite Immortality Bid

Summary:

• Jan Jekielek discusses the massive, unsettling revelation from a “hot mic” moment between Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin about organ harvesting for personal longevity and elite “immortality.”
• The conversation broadens into the technological ambitions of China (AI, biotech, quantum) and the geopolitical risks they pose.

Key Points:

• Hot Mic Bombshell

  • Putin and Xi discuss advances in technology—organ harvesting from living humans—to extend their lives and those of elites, aiming for ages 125-150, and eventual immortality.
  • The practice is validated as ongoing and systematic, not hypothetical.

• The Scale of Organ Harvesting

  • Over 20 years of documented large-scale, state-sponsored organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience in China, primarily Falun Gong practitioners.
  • “Best estimate, 60 to 100,000 transplants a year, okay, since at least the mid 2000s.” – Jan Jekielek [22:16]

• Messaging to the World’s Elites

  • The consensus is that the Chinese are signalling to other authoritarian leaders that they have the means to radically extend life—if only they align with them.
  • “We can get you to 125 right now and keep you healthy … at the moment there’s a limit on that. And this is what their quest is for. So I think the geopolitical implications, as you correctly say, are absolutely massive.” – Jan Jekielek [23:40]

• Strategic Context: Made in China 2025

  • China’s push to lead in advanced scientific fields is directly linked to its pursuit of dominance in science, technology, global governance, and even human biology.

• Moral and Existential Risk

  • A world where there is “no moral guardrails at all... that could be very attractive” for other global bad actors.

Memorable Quotes:

• “It's the most surreal experience because it's kind of the last thing I would expect. This is the dark secret that the Chinese Communist Party never ever wants to admit to ... So to hear...a discussion of continually transplanting organs to achieve immortality, perhaps 150 years...” – Jan Jekielek [19:34]

• “You're absolutely right. It's the demons. It's the summoning of the demons. And this is why this is so dark and has to be, quite frankly, shut down.” – Steve Bannon [25:18]

Timestamps

• [19:34] Jan Jekielek on the hot mic revelation and its validation of years of reporting
• [22:03] Bannon’s rundown of China’s tech ambitions and the “singularity” quest
• [23:40] Jan Jekielek on the enticement for world elites
• [25:18] Steve Bannon summarizes the existential risk

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3. Security, Tech Vulnerability, and Personal Safety

Summary:

• Brief on-air discussion with Chris Hoare about the need for personal security, specifically bulletproof backpacks and satellite phones, against rising threats from hostile actors and grid vulnerabilities.
• Commentary links the themes of self-reliance, preparedness, and distrust of official systems.

Timestamps

• [28:09] Chris Hoare on satellite phones and security
• [30:43] Systems hacking, backdoors from China, vulnerability of U.S infrastructure

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Notable Quotes & Speaker Attributions

• “If you're living in fear of what your abusers might do to you, you don't come out on a platform and say, ‘I'm gonna name you in the future.’” — Viva Fry [04:19]
• “This has been co opted and hijacked in the exact same way the MeToo movement was co opted and hijacked.” — Viva Fry [01:57]
• “There is the expression, you don't attribute to malice, what could be explained away by incompetence.” — Viva Fry [10:00]
• “The entire movement has been bastardized, corrupted, and now is being counterproductive.” — Viva Fry [08:38]
• “It’s the demons. It’s the summoning of the demons. And this is why this is so dark and has to be, quite frankly, shut down.” — Steve Bannon [25:18]
• “Best estimate, 60 to 100,000 transplants a year, okay, since at least the mid 2000s.” — Jan Jekielek [22:16]

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Structure & Tone

• The episode is fiercely polemical, adversarial to mainstream media and the political establishment.
• Language is direct, often sensational, with an undercurrent of moral outrage and urgency.
• Frequent references to conspiracy, “demon” actors, and the existential stakes of the issues at hand.
• The hosts interact with guests in a way that draws out both legal analysis and broad, speculative geopolitics.

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Additional Highlights

• The episode is interspersed with appeals to the audience for “preparedness” products.
• Prominent figures (Trump, Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobiec, Bobby Kennedy) are discussed within broader battles for political narrative and influence.
• Some real-time coverage of ongoing events, such as the Kennedy hearing (“Star Chamber”) and international War Room staff assignments.

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Takeaways for New Listeners

• On Epstein Disclosure: The War Room community views the current process as tainted, politicized, and a disservice to victims and truth-seekers; the search for a “client list” is a flashpoint for public trust.
• On China’s Aspirations: There's deep alarm about China’s use of advanced technology for life extension, particularly when paired with totalitarian disregard for human rights—a warning to the West and its institutions.
• On Public Safety: The show maintains a constant undercurrent encouraging self-reliance and skepticism about the resilience of American infrastructure in the face of foreign threats.

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For more, follow the hosts and guests on Rumble, Twitter, and the Epoch Times for ongoing discussion, analysis, and activism related to these unfolding stories.

Transcript

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Viva Fry]

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[Viva Fry]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Viva Fry]

I think it's the first time we've heard from him. That is today's Hammer Celebrity News. The Chiefs tight end who will be.

[Steve Bannon]

On the field this week telling his.

[Viva Fry]

Brother how things have changed since the.

[Steve Bannon]

Big announcement 10 days ago. I felt that at the game.

[Chris Hoare]

Actually Fox.

[Steve Bannon]

Fox has not shown a second. I don't think of this hearing. Right. You know why? Because they're taking big farmer money. Hello, Big pharma money. And didn't show. They were talking about, was it Travis the football player, tight end of the Chiefs and was it Tay Tay, Tata whatever. Tay Tay. Her engagement. Seriously? They're showing that this morning. That's what's taking place of the star Chamber. Bobby Kennedy's going through. Remember, Big Pharmas paid for this hearing. They won't let Bobby Kennedy answer. They threw up lie after lie after lie in invective. And his great response. Hey, yo, you guys have sat here one or all. You've been here 25, 30 years. Years. What have you done about this? Nothing. But go along with big Pharma. They won't answer that. You heard Ben. I'm asking the questions here. They don't want to be. They don't want to have to answer for anything. Viva Fry. I want to go back to the beginning because we showed it nonstop yesterday. You are. I want you support releasing all the documents, getting full disclosure. What did you not like then about yesterday, sir?

[Viva Fry]

What it ended up looking like is that this has been co opted and hijacked in the exact same way the MeToo movement was co opted and hijacked. To be weaponized for political purposes and to go after anybody who was an ideological adversary. When you had the women out there saying, we know the names. We are standing up for justice so that no victims ever get victimized again. In the future, protect the children, but we're not going to mention any names, period. And that other woman who, you know, was talking about her modeling career and how she ended up on Epstein's island to witness things, I don't know that she was actually a victim of Epstein's sexual abuses, saying, you know, we're going to make our own list and we're going to keep it confidential. Stay tuned for more. I mean, it looked cheap and tawdry and it looked like they had co opted Massie's righteous initial motion or the House resolution to disclose the documents and are co opting it to bastardize it for their own whatever purposes. Making a list of not just abusers, but anyone in Epstein's orbit, keeping it confidential for the victims, that sounds like extortion. And so in as much as Bondi has blown this Epstein document released, they've embarrassed some of the alternative media that support Trump. I think it's compromised Trump unnecessarily. Massey puts forward a decent, you know, bipartisan with Ro Khan support. And it gets co opted by what we saw yesterday, it looks like a dog. And it had nothing to do with disclosure justice in naming names. It had to do with self promotion and promising things for the future that they have in their hands right now.

[Steve Bannon]

Do you think, are they, you're a lawyer. Are their lawyers telling them some reason that they could not at least give some of the names? I mean, many times they talked and they also, I think, raised the stakes because I don't remember this coming out in the Maxwell trial. Maybe it did, right? I don't follow these things that closely, but a couple of victims said they were raped and then passed around or trafficked to be raped some more by powerful people in politics, finance, business and entertainment. Was it someand this is obviously stuff that's over 20 years old is would any lawyer have told them you can't say the names? I mean, why weren't they able to say? Is there some restriction? They had to come forward at least with a couple of the names yesterday to let people know that this was something more than just Maxwell and Epstein.

[Viva Fry]

You know, a number of people float a number of reasons why they can't name them because they live in fear. And so to that argument, I say, if you're living in fear of what your abusers might do to you, you don't come out on a platform and say, I'm gonna name you in the future. You sit there and wait and wait for me to name you. It's the exact Opposite of what you would do. Have they signed NDAs because they might have gotten compensated for their abuse and therefore contractually cannot disclose the names. Possibly. And then, you know, I say possibly. But even then, then it sort of does taint their pursuit of justice that if they've received compensation and signed NDAs and now they say, well we want you to release the names because we already got compensated for what we claim to have happened to us in the past. Other argument they say is defamation. If they say they might get sued for defamation, you're dealing. People came out yesterday and said Virginia Giuffre is a national hero for having done did what she did. And we're not gonna do it cuz we're afraid of getting sued for naming the people who we claim sexually abused us. I have never been in that position, so I don't know what is a normal human response. I won't judge it. But it doesn't do wonders to promote this purportedly bipartisan bill which now looks like a total Gong Show. And so if I'm Thomas Massie, I'm irritated having seen what I saw yesterday. Cuz it is not going to garner any more support for what I think should have been a pretty straightforward thing to do. Pass the bill, release the documents in as much as you can without breaking the law. Don't release 30 some odd thousand pages individually scanned, making it unsearchable, highly redacted. So the liars on Twitter can say I wonder why this entire passage is redacted. Cuz it must have Trump's name in it. When the victims yesterday come on and say Trump was supportive, you know, back in the day, we've never alleged that he's done anything bad. Whether or not the release would embarrass people in high places or other countries with which we want to maintain diplomatic relations. It's possible, but it doesn't matter because if they don't and they keep bungling this release of the Epstein files, the political ramifications at home are gonna be such that the Democrats are going to continue weaponizing it. Much like they've done. Much like they've done weaponizing the refusal to follow through on what was not a campaign promise but a campaign issue that Trump himself brought up and brought to the fore. So I don't understand the entire debacle.

[Jan Jekielek]

From the get go.

[Viva Fry]

I think someone needs to replace Pam Bondi, be a good replacement. But yesterday did nothing to help the cause.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, particularly the situation. I think most of these are Democrats. I think that's one of the ironies here, the Dershowitz thing yesterday, when, because we covered it all and somebody asked a question about Dershowitz in Virginia, and I guess she retract some statements she made about Dershowitz. I'm kind of confused about that. But what was amazing is that the people that wanted full disclosure shut down the reporter. They said Dershowitz was paying him and, you know, it was untrue. And that didn't happen. Do you know what are the details? Because it sounded odd for people that wanted full disclosure to be jumping some guy who's asking a question about did she change her testimony at some point in time and exonerate or attempt to exonerate Dershowitz?

[Viva Fry]

Absolutely. So the question, as far as I could hear it, I would love to know who the journalist was, was asking questions about Virginia Giuffre having made allegations against Dershowitz and retracted them. And when people retract statements, they're gonna say exoneration or others are gonna say intimidation, just depending on your perspective. I personally, this is not defending Dershowitz. I don't think Dershowitz is guilty of anything. What Dershowitz did mention at one point on another podcast, I think it might have been with, I want to say Posobic, but I might be wrong, is that some people made some false accusations. Because much like with the MeToo movement, people see dollar signs, and it's cynical and it's gross, but it's reality. There are legitimate bonafide victims of Epstein sexual abuse and sexual abuse involving others. Because I don't think Ghislaine was trafficking only to Epstein. And then there are other opportunistic players who come in and see dollar signs, say, I'm going to make some accusations against some high profile people and all get paid too. And so when Dershowitz said, there is a list, I've seen it, it's got names, but it's also redacting the names of people who made false accusations. That's a plausible explanation. But when a journalist comes out yesterday, starts asking questions, what about some of the false statements that were retracted or recanted? And then you have these alleged victims rejoicing in the silencing of a journalist who's giving them the attention that they claim to so desperately want. It just made it all look very cheap, very exploitive, very partisan. When you get Gloria Allred appearing out of the blue, I mean, it's like saying Candyman three times in the mirror. The entire movement has been bastardized, corrupted, and now is being counterproductive and we.

[Steve Bannon]

Showed her she was the last speaker. She comes up. I'm surprised she still didn't have her Hillary buttons. I had to deal with her in the 26th campaign. We had to deal with all her lies and misrepresentations. So Pam Bondi has said on Fox that there was a list that was on her desk. Dershowitz, you just. I don't want to repeat what Dershowitz said. He said he'd seen a list. Isn't that one of the fundamental questions people have? Is there some list out thereare these women going to provide it or was there already a list beforehand? I mean, this is some of the just basic fundamental questions that folks that want to have full disclosure on this have. I mean, can you give. Have people before said there's actually a list? And if they say it, if Dershowitz and Pam Bondi say it, how can you kind of unsay it? Because one's the Attorney General of the United States, the other is one of the most prominent constitutional lawyers around and a colleague and close friend of Epstein.

[Viva Fry]

There is the expression you don't attribute to malice. What could be explained away by incompetence when it comes to Pam Bondi had no opinion of her when she was appointed. I would have preferred Matt Gaetz personally had no opinion of her. But performance has been what it has been. You can't say certain things in a certain position and then just walk it back and pretend like it never happened. Even her explanation for what she says she intended to mean when she said there's a list on my desk, yada yada, coupled with the missing minute which has now been contradicted by the actual evidence, it compromises the credibility of that department of the administration and it happens to be a big one, the doj. Is there a list, like a checklist, A to do list? Hey, this is client X, Y and Z. No, but there were unnamed unindicted co conspirators who were given blanket pardons under the 2008 plea deal. Those are names. I mean, what's going to be the rationale to say we're not going to release the names of the unindicted co conspirators who got effectively a non prosecution agreement under this deal in 2008 that made no sense. That's the list of the names that we want. People who were financing Jeffrey Epstein, people who were at the island. They might not all be guilty, but nobody's expecting a list of, hey, here's my favorite clients for sexual abuse. But Everybody knows colloquially what we're talking about. People in the orbit, people who participated in it, people who were unindicted, unnamed but got non prosecution agreements and people who visited the island because if you visited that island you may not be a sexual abuser but my goodness, people are entitled to know at this point in time. And more secrecy just allows this to be used against Trump. The way we saw with that stupid rubbish story of a letter, the, the, the, the boobies with the signature of Donald Trump, the birthday. The longer it goes on, the more it gets used against Wall Street Journal.

[Steve Bannon]

Just hang her for one second. Hold you through the break. We've got Yan Epic times on deck in.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm.

[Carol Markowitz]

And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.

[Carol Markowitz]

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[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

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[Carol Markowitz]

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[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

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[Carol Markowitz]

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[Viva Fry]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, welcome back. Viva, what are your coordinates? A lot of people are going to be watching you about this entire, you know, what's happening because something's, it's got to come to some culmination. They've got the oversight committee, it's up on the Hill. It's, it's, it's. I can tell you folks, MSNBC for the rest of the night was nothing but Epstein with a little Bobby Kennedy thrown in, firing the cdc. But it was, they're obsessed, they're absolutely obsessed by it. So Viva, where do people go to kind of have your clear headed thinking on this topic?

[Viva Fry]

Well, I'm live daily on rumble at 3 o'. Clock. So Viva Fry on Rumble and if you put in Viva Fry in the search engine you'll, you'll, you'll find me on the Internet. But Viva Fry, we've got an amazing community@viva barneslaw.locals.com and Twitter. It's the Viva Fry and I'm covering this. I sort of seem to be pissing off everybody these days with this because I'm sort of pissing off the Trump side That thinks that, you know, the Oversight committee is doing enough. I'm pissing off the Massey side by sort of, you know, saying that yesterday didn't go well for Massie and people are accusing me of not being sensitive to the victims. But I'm saying if you're a bonafide victim and you saw what went down yesterday, you should be pissed because that is compromising your purported aspirations of all of this, which is disclosure, injustice and preventing future victims.

[Steve Bannon]

But what you're saying, correct me if I'm wrong, and it gives them time too, to get their list together because they, they weren't either prepared or they were told not to by their lawyers. Come forward yesterday. You would think in doing that very dramatic, you know, event, and let's take the pre. Event out, which Gloria Allred and some of the lawyers are running. Let's take the event itself. You would assume to have the mass. The maximum impact. You would have brought up at least a few names. When they talk about the rich and powerful to let people know that it's somebody more than Maxwell and Epstein and then drive the story forward.

[Viva Fry]

They brought up Lex Wexner, Les Wexner, to say how Epstein got his financing. But Epstein was circulating these women according to their own admissions around his circle of friends. You're afraid of lawsuits, but doing this. You're afraid of retribution, but doing this. Look, and then teasing out, making your own private list that you're going to use for whatever.

[Steve Bannon]

Do you think. Do you think the Oversight Committee, which obviously the Republicans and President Trump are telling people to focus on, don't you think that they can. It'll take them longer, but don't you think they can get to the same place?

[Viva Fry]

I think they're getting to the same place. And that's why, you know, between the action of the Oversight committee and the civil war that the Massey discharge petition seems to be igniting, you know, people are getting frustrated. At least there's pressure now, but there's. There's progress now. But there's progress now only after the pressure that everyone was putting on Bond Bondi when they were being told to let the Epstein story go. Like fun. We're going to let the Epstein story go.

[Steve Bannon]

Viva. Everybody will tune in three, how about that? And get you on social media. Where you coming in hot. So thank you very much, sir.

[Viva Fry]

Thank you for having me.

[Steve Bannon]

He's upsetting everybody equally, which is normally a good thing. Jan, I call it Jakelik. Right? You're telling me Jakelyk is the Polish name. First off, you were at the speech yesterday. Do good. Yesterday was a glorious day for Poland and America, was it not, Jan?

[Jan Jekielek]

100%. And I mean, I do think you actually nailed it in the speech. I think when you talk about Poland, actually, it brings out the best in you, if I may say that, because polls, you know, I'm Polish, I'm a native speaker. My parents escaped communist Poland. That's how I learned about the horrors of that system from the beginning. And polls have that same zest for freedom, that same desire, core desire for freedom that attracts people to America, that it attracts people to the American idea. And as another gentleman pointed out the other day, Poland also had the first democratic constitution in Europe. Right. So Poland and America have a lot in common.

[Steve Bannon]

You have been on the show many times, and we always talk about your reports. We love the Epoch Times. I think it's the best broadsheet in the world. And you have been one of the leaders as the folks over the Epoch Times in telling the world the dangers to Lao Beijing and to the world at large of the Chinese Communist Party. So this was the headline in today's Financial Times. And it's obviously, geopolitically, we're at an inflection point in world history, right? And this was brought about by many people in the west, leaders in the west, business leaders, finance leaders, corporate leaders, kicking the can down the road and being in business with the Chinese Communist Party. And Yan, we'd love to have you back on and maybe hopefully this weekend or something. I want to break it down with some experts like yourself and go through it for the audience. However, I have you on here for something very specific. The most important thing that came out of this military parade and the show of force at the BRICS nations, and they had a conference call with taking down the dollar. You had everybody up on the podium and you particularly had mini me over at North Korea. The first time he's on the podium actually seeing a military parade with the Chinese Communist Party and the kgb. Putin and many others got the mullahs up there, the people that run Persia, all of them. The most important thing that happened, I believe the buried lead was the sidebar conversation that was caught on a hot mic between Putin and Xi. And remember, Putin and Xi are two of the three most powerful people in the world, the third being your guy, Donald John Trump, who's down here at the White House at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. And she and Putin are talking about transhumanism. They're talking about how they have technology now coming from wait for it organ harvesting. Who? Jan's the world's expert on this, right? That they can get new organs, fresh organs from living human beings, and that they believe they themselves are on the cusp of living to 150 years old and that others that will come shortly thereafter will have total immortality. After all the abuse, Falun Gong and epoch times and you got for years and years and years about this was some fantasy. This another conspiracy theory. These people are nutcases. You can't trust them. You got to trust the ccp. Do you feel a little bit of relief that the truth has come out from the demon's own lips, sir?

[Jan Jekielek]

This is almost a. I mean, it's the most surreal experience because it's kind of the last thing I would expect. This is the dark secret that the Chinese Communist Party never ever wants to admit to, that Xi Jinping never wants to admit to. It's been something that's been happening at scale for at least 25 years. It's something they've never had a credible response to. It's always just been denial and attack the messenger. That's all it's been. So to hear it actually, you know, a discussion of continuous, continually transplanting organs to achieve immortality, perhaps 150 years, Xi Jinping responds to Vladimir Putin. I mean, it's very clear what they're talking about. And you know, the evidence around this with the China Tribunal, and again, 25 years of work that's been basically done, or at least 20 years of work that's been done to figure this out. That's when we realized it was real is, I think, incontrovertible at this point. And now they've actually validated it.

[Steve Bannon]

What does this mean? What does this moment in history mean? They've come together because, hey, I've been having conversations with people and saying, don't think they're not offering some people to come on their side and build this new axis, not just to control the Ranger Landmass, but the entire world for world domination. Don't think they're not offering these guys, hey, look, we can get you to 125 right now and keep you healthy and, you know, keep you sexually active and, you know, with a little spring in your step and an active ruler. What are the geopolitical implications? Because this is made in China 2025. When you and I used to talk about that, I said, hey, you know, the top 10 industries that they want to dominate by the year 2025. What year are we in? Oh, yeah, that's right. 20, 25. The top five were advanced chip design, quantum computing, artificial general intelligence, artificial intelligence, regenerative robotics, and wait for it, CRISPR and biotechnologies. Those were the top five. That is the five you need to converge to get to the singularity. These folks are very strategic and they're very focused. The geopolitical impact of what they were saying is more folks than the important than the geopolitical impact of this military because it implies the top types of advanced technologies they are working on in dark in the darkest secret most place of the Chinese Communist Party in the kgb. Sir.

[Jan Jekielek]

Steve, first of all, let me just clarify exactly what we're talking about. For the uninitiated, we're talking about unlimited at scale, on demand killing of prisoners of conscience for their organs. For the Chinese elites and wealthy transplant tourists. That's the shortest way to summarize what's happening and that this has happened at such a scale. We're talking by best estimate, 60 to 100,000 transplants a year, okay, since at least the mid 2000s. So this is very large scale. This is a lot of money. But more importantly, if you're someone that believes that there is no God, that there is no connection to divine that there's no moral guardrails at all, what it means is life. And that is exactly what they're talking about. There was an example of a Chinese official that basically had multiple. This was actually disclosed by someone else that was sort of doing a eulogy for them who had had multiple during COVID multiple organs replaced. And you know, it kind of. And many of these leaders right now that I was looking at the average. I think 88 is the average age now that these leaders have a lot, much higher than the general population and even other parts of the world. So I think they're kind of sending a message here. And they're sending a message we're doing the kind of work that, you know, you weren't allowed to do out there for those of you that might be interested. And we can frankly set you up so let's get in bed together. I think that's a message and in a sense, for people that don't believe there's accountability in heaven or something of this nature, that could be very attractive because, you know, that extends one's life and you know, at the moment there's a limit on that. And this is what their quest is for. So I think the geopolitical implications, as you correctly say, are absolutely massive. And in a way, I almost wonder whether this hot Mic moment. You know, nothing ever happens at the Chinese Communist Party that isn't exactly right. And I'm almost wondering if this hot mic moment wasn't a kind of a message, a coded message or something like that. I'm not a, you know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but they are really, really meticulous about not getting anything unwanted out.

[Steve Bannon]

If first off it was a hot mic, there'd be 100 dead technicians, right? They would go through. No, they have in, what, the 20 years of his reign or rule or the 15 years and everything, you've never had a hot mic moment like this. So, no, I don't believe for a second it was just caught on where they want the word out, they want to promulgate it. Jan, you've done amazing work. The Epoch Times. And so folks that have not been following this for years, they were criticized as cranks, as conspiracy theorists. And now from the demons own mouths, you've heard exactly what they're doing, not what they're planning on doing, what they're doing and what they're offering for at least today, potential immortality and at least extending human life to 120 to 150 years old. You're absolutely right. It's the demons. It's the summoning of the demons. And this is why this is so dark and has to be, quite frankly, shut down. Jan, where do people go for your reporting? Epoch Times, all your social media, all of it, sir.

[Jan Jekielek]

Theepochtimes.com, of course, you can look up American thought leaders. It's on the front page. You can also look up my YouTube channel, which seems to be less censored these days. So we're actually getting more traction. I welcome you to visit us there. The other thing, and this is part of the surreal experience, I just signed a contract with Skyhorse to write a book on exactly this issue. But it's basically using this horrible organ harvest harvesting industry as a lens to understand the Chinese Communist Party writ large. So it's going to be coming out in February. And it's almost like in that sense, this hot mic was a gift because guess where the book is going to be starting.

[Viva Fry]

Baby.

[Steve Bannon]

Oh, baby. Skyhorse. Best publisher out there. Best publishers. You're with great people, Jan. We look forward to that and we look forward to your reporting. And thank God you and the guys at the Epoch Times were on watch here. Really appreciate you.

[Jan Jekielek]

Thank you, Steve.

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[Steve Bannon]

Okay, let me go to Nothing's happening at the Star Chamber. We're going to have a compressed part of this tonight. Naomi Wolfe is going to join us to go through it. An inquisition. Bobby Kennedy, I think, gave better than he got. But you see how big pharma lines up on this. Maybe Charlie Kirk will pick up some of it in the next hour. In fact, if we get another one of these demon Democrats up there, let's go to it live. Chris Hoare, talk to me, brother. You always come in with some fantastic offers for the Warren Party war room posse. They are jacked up this morning because Bobby Kennedy, they've been trying to tear Bobby Kennedy apart, in process of trying to fire him as secretary of hhs, sir.

[Chris Hoare]

Well, Steve, we've got a lot to be concerned about this week. You're reminded there about what the Chinese are doing their show for us yesterday with North Korea and Russia. And that is, to me, just a reminder that we as Americans need to be prepared for anything at any time. The number one way to do that is to make sure that you have communications that will work should the Chinese or others attack our communications infrastructure and networks. Satellite phones are independent of that, Steve. As you know, they work regardless of whether the power is up or whether the telecommunications networks are down, the cell towers are down. Your satellite phone is going to keep working, and at sat123.com, you can still get a free satellite phone with activation. That phone will cost you 1 to 2000 anywhere else in the world, but free with activation, you're paying 95 bucks a month for your service to get up to 150 minutes. But Steve, I want to bring back something that happened just last week. Of course, the tragedy in Minneapolis with another two kids killed senselessly. And just that is a reminder that we need to make sure we're protecting our kids who when they go off to school. So this week with the free satellite phone, we have a limited offer of the free bulletproof backpack for your kids as well. Steve, this bulletproof backpack weighs just 2 pounds. It can hold up to an 18 inch laptop, but it has a Kevlar panel in it that will stop bullets from hitting people. And this is something we developed in conjunction with special friends in special operations and law enforcement in California to give kids a fighting chance should they be in such a terrible situation. And we all hope and pray you're not in that situation. But these days you just don't know. There are too many of these shootings and there's too many crazy people out there with guns. So this backpack was developed to give you a fighting chance or give your kids a fighting chance when you send them off to school. Steve, we're all buying backpacks for our kids anyway. They cost 2, 3, 4, $500 or more, many of them. But none of those protect you, you against ammunition. And that's why we developed this. And again, you can get this at sat123.com free with activation with a free cell phone. Or you can call 941-841-0844. That's 941-841-0840. But Steve, I think this is about the only thing that can give you peace of mind when you send your kids off to school.

[Steve Bannon]

What about, I want to go before let you bounce with the cell phone itself and, and your concerns about the grid, your concerns about telecom happening, the Chinese and other bad actors working with them, the North Koreans. How do you think this is a bigger concern today than it was even a couple of years ago?

[Chris Hoare]

Yeah, I do. Because look, we've seen numerous examples of equipment, whether it's equipment that operates in our ports or operates on cell towers or the electric power grid. These components in these machines coming out of China are pre built. They're building in backdoors so the CCP can get access to them once they're installed here. And this isn't conspiracy stuff. This is, this is fact. We've had to send back numerous pieces of machinery and equipment to China because there were backdoors in it that would allow the CCP to control or at least to view and watch what these machines are doing over here. And we also know for a fact that the Chinese and others have put viruses into our communications networks and other infrastructure networks that can be operated to basically kill platforms. You know, we've seen these kind of outages all around the world. We saw them earlier this year in Spain and Portugal where they just took out the power grid. And whilst the, you know, the, what they were saying over there was that this was just an error that was caused by an overload in the power grid, you know, what many people were saying, quite rightly, is that the error would be very unlikely. It was much more likely that that was a cyber attack. And so if the Chinese can do that, and that would leave everyone without a working cell phone, and that would leave everyone without communications. But if you have a satellite phone, you know, you would still be able to stay in touch. Steve and that's why the US Military and first responders use the exception. Exact same equipment is that we're giving away for free today.

[Steve Bannon]

Can you one more time, where do people go, who they talk to when they get there?

[Chris Hoare]

Just they can call 941-841-0844. That's 941-841-0840 or go to sat123.com that's sat123.com and you can get a free phone with activation and a free bulletproof backpack. And you can make sure that you are safe and your kids can be safe and that you will always be able to stay in touch no matter what the Chinese or these other guys are up to.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, brother. Appreciate you coming on.

[Chris Hoare]

Thanks, Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

Do we have any more. Who's Bobby Kennedy getting grilled by now? The Republicans have been pretty good about letting him. I know one, yeah, she's, oh, she said, okay, let's go. Did we miss Pocahontas? No, let's. Hopefully Charlie Kirk will pick it up. If not, Grace and Mo will stream it. And Grace and Mo is, are in, are in Korea right now for the fantastic Korean event put on by Mina Kim. We want to show support of that. We've got people on the road. Of course, our own Natalie Winters is in Asia doing reporting over there. So we got a lot, a lot going on as the world, as the war room staff goes out. Also, I think Mo's going to be in the United Kingdom for the Tommy Rob Robinson event, trying to get Natalie over there, too, if she's finished with Asia. So it's a lot going on. Charlie Kirk's going to follow us. Poso. And Poso was spectacular yesterday in my speech to the, to the Polish folks, I did. You know, Poso has taught me so much. Posofic's taught me so much. I kind of drafted off that he followed me in the speech and I think I took some of his best lines. But Jack, thanks brother. You were, you were fantastic. Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobic, Steve Gruber, Eric bolling. Back at 5pm I'm giving a speech late this afternoon. I should be back in time for the five, but if not, Dave Bratt will be here. And if I'm not here this afternoon for this, which I'll try to be, I'll be back tomorrow morning. We've got a lot going on in Washington D.C. as everybody's back in town. Want to make sure hometitleock.com hometitle lock. Steve 60 for one buck. One buck. You get 60 days to try out the service to make sure that you can find out why every dream you've ever had is in your home. 90% of your net worth is in your home. You don't want some bad guy, some varmint AI, cyber rogue, lawyer, rogue accountant, rogue in law. Take the title to your home and go take out a second mortgage from a hard money lender who does not want to hear your tale of woe. They want the money. So make sure it doesn't happen to you so you can man the ramparts man. We got a September that is on fire. We're gonna cover it all. I promise you a star chamber today. You saw what big pharma or they got those guys on the payroll. They want them coming in hot. Bobby Kennedy gave as good as he got. Back at 5. See you then.

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