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Stephen K. Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Cause we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it. It's people like that go to share the big lie. MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.
Senator Jim Banks
Country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
War room here's your host, Stephen k. Banner. Friday 5th September Year Overlord 2025. Mary Holland. What are we going to do about getting more information? The information here, it's like Trump's economic plan. The plan is working and you can see a path to it really exploding. It's just like on this. We need to get organized and put this information out to combat the established order. You can see yesterday, they're not going to stop. Look at these Democrats. They're all bought. And Cassidy too. So what do we do here?
Mary Holland
Ma', am, you're absolutely right. We have to flood the zone, I think to support Kennedy in make America healthy. And I agree with you, you can't make America great if you're not healthy. That's really what Kennedy is about, is like most Americans have some kind of chronic health condition. It doesn't have to be that way. When his uncle was president, it was a small fraction of the American people. We've just been getting sicker and pharma's been making more money and politicians have been getting more bought off and we've got to change that. So this is a great month. Flood the zone. Come to @X Children's HD. That's our hashtag and it's definitely valuable or not hashtag. But you know, at Children's HD definitely support our messaging around this. I think there will be demonstrations around the country. Certainly the other side is trying to get rid of Bobby. By the end of September he's going to be coming out with the causes of autism. They're very scared about that. He's going to be coming out with the real MAHA strategy report. They're scared about that. So we're going to be trying to organize with other. There's rallies to support the continuation of this movement. Make America Healthy again. Our website childrenshealthdefense.org is one of the ones that's going to give you truthful information. We have a free newsletter every day, the Defender, streaming every day on these health topics. And there's other places too. ICANN is another one. National Vaccine Information Center. Stan for health freedom. There's a lot of pillars in this movement and I agree with you that together Make America Healthy and Make America Great are really pretty unstoppable. But they're really important components. They're different, they reach different constituencies.
Stephen K. Bannon
Bobby Kennedy said yesterday, flat out with, with the most unhealthy country in the world. Advance, advanced, you know, first world advanced democracy. Advance, you know, capitalist industrial power, post industrial power. The unhealthiest. I just want to get, I want to get two dates in people's mind as we always go through critical path. I think the 15th. Correct me if I'm wrong. There's two blockbusters coming out and this is why they're after Kennedy. They wanted this hearing yester they are going to try to remove Bobby Kennedy in the month of September because of two reports you have the Make America Healthy. Well, first off, the autism I think is at the 15th of September roughly correct. What causes autism? I think it's going to be the.
Mary Holland
25Th is a meeting of the MAHA Institute on Autism. I don't know. I don't think we have a date yet, Steve. I'm thinking that's probably more towards the end of the month. Sooner than that. A draft report of the Make America Healthy Again Commission report. A draft has been leaked. It's, it's not final. But this month those two things are coming out, right? The strategy report, how they're going to make America healthier again, and what are the basic causes of autism. Where's the research going to go? Those are two reasons why pharma is pretty petrified. And they're pulling out all the stops, right? Wall Street Journal.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, okay. All the stops. You know, I might add, we showed Bobby Kennedy's virtually for the entire two hours. A couple times I got a little slow there. But Fox, I don't think showed any of it because they're in cahoots on this thing. The big tech guys around that table are saying in cahoots, big pharma, they're coming for Bobby Kennedy's scalp. The autism report is going to rip the mask off of what these guys have been doing and how they've been making money. How the doctors are. How the doctors are compromised, the whole system's compromised. And the American people intuitively get it. That's why the number. That's why the voting math is on our side. And we have to take leadership of that. We have to push this forward. And hey, the fight over Bobby Kennedy, the confirmation was hard enough. It ain't nothing compared to what's going to happen because they're coming now. Last night. All they spend time on now is Epstein, Epstein and you know, Epstein and Bobby Kennedy and they throwing a little that Trump's a dictator for cleaning up these cities. So, ma', am, one more time, social media. Where do people go to get this information?
Mary Holland
Social media, children's hd, Mary Holland, nyc, But children's HD on X, we're growing. And you'll get all the basic information there.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you so much, ma'. Am. Appreciate you. Thank you, Steve. Dr. Taylor, Marshall. I don't know if I get any more controversial than Bobby Kennedy, big tech, the tech burlagarchs, and Mary Holland, but I think we can. Dr. Marshall, your book's on fire. Your interview over with Royce White. Amazing. The book is just about to hit the bestseller list. We just need to push it over the top. Why is this thing so controversial? What are you saying that's so controversial in this book? Are you saying that we are a Christian country? Christian nationalism has got to take over. You're going to be like Ayatollah Khomeini. You're going to be in Ayatollah as we go back to. And all the women are going to be Handmaid's Tale. Is that what you're asking for, sir?
Dr. Taylor Marshall
No, not quite. I mean, whether you agree that America is a Christian nation or not, and I believe that it is in its founding. You look at the 13 colonies, you look at their constitutions and what they held for holding office, I believe it is. But whether it is or not, you want to live in a Christian nation. Christian nations are the best nations. They are the best for economics, they are the best for liberty, they are the best for health care. Every single metric is important. And I think a big this is Islam. Islam is taking over Europe. It's coming after America. You cannot fight Islam just by being conservative. If you look at history, the only way that we have been successful against the invasion of Islam is through rallying to Jesus Christ. And you know, your previous guest was talking about, you know, parental rights over children. And that's becoming a big deal. And we talk about that in Christian Patriot. If we're going to fight these aggressions against us and our children, we have to rally to civilization. I know a lot of people say Western civilization, but living in the west or living in a geography doesn't make you great. What made us great was that we were a Christian culture. Christendom was a federation of Christian nations and it was the best place to live and it will be the best place to live. And so I think as conservatives, we just need to rethink what are we conserving and what are our birth rates like the second biggest religion in America in 2040, Islam is overtaking Europe. If we don't want to live in an Islamic country, we have to say we want to live in a Christian country. There is no neutral, there is no vacuum. And this is why I wrote the book Christian Patriot. It gives us a Christian political philosophy. We have a 2000 year tradition of political philosophy. Most people, including Christians, don't know anything about it. So this is a crash course Christian Patriot on historic traditional Christian theory. And then I set forth 12 strategies, 12 ways that Christians can advance the kingdom and create a beautiful culture, a Christian nation, a Christian patrimony, a Christian inheritance. And that's the only way we're going to be able to fight off, you know, the tragedies we've seen in Minnesota, the growing Islamic threat. And then a big problem is birth rates. If Muslims are having three to four births per woman globally and Christians are having two or less, which is what we're seeing, it's game over, it's demographics. I mean, you can't, you can't argue with the mathematics. And so, you know, this book is a strategy and it talks about birth rates and it talks about defining marriage and promoting women. And saying being a mother is the most beautiful thing. This is what we have to do. And it's a Christian worldview.
Stephen K. Bannon
This is what I, I said yesterday at the speech is that the, you know, right now with this, with the, with what's happening internally that we have to sort out to make sure that we stop the insider threat to the United States for the sovereignty and the sovereignty of our citizens. This aspect of the Chinese Communist Party now in their full flex, which the Tech Bros. Around that table helped create and their bankers and the Wall street crowd that finances them and reaps all the profits and all the high stock price, they're all in together. This is why I said to the Middle east right now, CENTCOM is a sideshow to the main event and the Israel situation and particularly the Greater Israel, a sideshow to a sideshow. And for Israel and the Jewish people. Your threat, your principal existential threat ain't coming from Tehran. The principal existential threat is coming from what you see Sadiq Khan doing in London which is now a no go zone for the Jewish people. Right? Go try to have a pro, pro Israel rally in London and see what happens to you. And it's coming in New York and nobody's talking, nobody's talking about it. Nobody's talking. In fact, 67, 57 or 60% of young Jewish people under 30 years old are going to vote for him, are going to vote for Mandami. I think a third or 20% of his staff are young Jewish professionals, political operatives, media types, etc. That is a central threat. In 10 years, when that guy wins, in 10 years, New York City will be a no go zone for Jews. You watch, you watch it. It's coming. And nobody, and they don't want to, they don't want to address it. Everybody wants to go to war. We're not going any more wars in the Middle East. Not going to happen. People are tired of it. They see the threat here and they see the people inside this country that are selling this country out every day to the Chinese Communist Party and others. People are tired of it.
Dr. Taylor Marshall
And the hard thing is.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah.
Dr. Taylor Marshall
The hard thing is it's hard to, it's very difficult historically to around ideology. What does rally people is your faith. That is the deepest, deepest part of who you are in your heart is what you believe. And to be strong as a culture. The west has only been strong as a culture and it's become less strong as we've moved away from Christianity. And Christianity speaks to every single issue that we're talking about, it talks about, of course, education, matrimony, birth rates, parental rights, pornography, human trafficking, justice, foreign aid, slavery, debt, taxes, inflation. All the progress that has been made, has been made under the banner of Christianity and by Christians. And we need to stop being embarrassed about that. We need to say we are these people. These are our convictions because we are formed by the parables of Jesus Christ, by the Beatitudes, by the Sermon on the Mount. That is a beautiful image for the world. And that's all we're asking to do. We're asking to bring the beautiful gospel in the revelation of Jesus Christ as a sacrifice for others to the world. That is a beautiful message. Islam doesn't bring that. China doesn't bring that. Hinduism doesn't bring that. We're saying we have something to offer. It's been a beautiful thing historically, and that is what's going to save our civilization. That is the rallying point. And so Christian patriot, patriotism is loving your patria. And your patria in Latin is your fatherland. It's honoring your father, it's honoring your mother. It's honoring God the father, and seeing your patriotism rooted in that identity, which is a supernatural. And that's the most powerful way that we can move forward, is in a supernatural way, not merely in a natural way.
Stephen K. Bannon
Can you where do people go? Social media? What are your contact points, your coordinates? And where do people get the book?
Dr. Taylor Marshall
You can get it on Amazon, but if you go to ChristianPatriotBook.com we have a special Bannon 20 code Bannon 20, you'll get 20% off on signed books. Harrison Butler, three time Super bowl chief, Super bowl champ for the Chiefs, wrote the forward and there's signed copies, limited edition, that he and I did. So your audience can get 20% off using promo code BANNON20. You can get it on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, wherever books are sold. And it's been a great first week so far, and we're hoping to make good numbers and get on some lists and I think change the culture and change how we think politically that faith for Christians should not be something we're embarrassed about because the Muslims are very public about it. And if we're going to go toe to toe and preserve our civilization, Christianity is an integral part of who we are as a people, as a nation and as a tradition.
Stephen K. Bannon
Sir, thank you very much. Good luck with the book over the weekend. Let's push it through today's. Any sales today will count to the New York Times bestseller list. So good luck.
Dr. Taylor Marshall
That's right. Thank you, Steve.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, brother. What were Xi and Putin talking about? They were talking about immortality. This is the natural conclusion of the Peter Thiel and all this thing. They're working on immortality, right. Life extension and immortality. And right there they're talking openly talking about the organ harvesting. Yeah, we can get to a buck 25, a buck 50 right now, but immortality is within our grasp. Once you think about that, that is the most important thing that came out of even with all that military might, all that political clout and the flex they're trying to do against the United States. The most important thing is what they did on transhumanism.
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Mike Rogers
Yeah, sure. The statistics show it's the second most violent city in America. And by the way, we've got four of those in Michigan and I'd like to get rid of all of those off of that list. And why would we turn our backs on the fact that we are about 500% above the national average for aggravated assault In Detroit, about 500% for murder, about 180% for rape, 250% for robbery, higher than the national average. So these are people who are struggling to make it. They're off in a different part of Detroit. So apparently they don't count as much as everyone else. I argue this is a huge opportunity for a city like Detroit to put their hand up and say, come on in, help us out. And what we know, and I'm a former law enforcement guy, is that you can have a huge impact if you get rid of the core of criminality in these communities. It tends to be this fewer people doing a lot of the crime. When you go in, this is what you're seeing in Washington, D.C. and why it's been so impactful is they're going after these folks on gun charges and human trafficking charges and drug charges, all of the things that get these folks off the street. And then we know for sure they're going to get prosecuted because they're taking them into federal court. Wow, what a. What a great way to clean up a community and give these people their neighborhoods back. I don't know why we would walk away from this. I mean, my argument is let's. Every city ought to be standing in line saying, how do we get in on this? And by the way, if you don't want the National Guard, don't ask for it. But you know that what's working in D.C. if you're in the city of Detroit, say, we'll take all of the surge that you can give us. And we want all those federal, you know, kind of task force teams in there targeting these really hardened criminals that are terrorizing these communities. I just, I. It's just. It's crazy to me, Steve, that we have all these Democrats standing up saying, no, no, no, we got this. You know, it's only 50 murders. It's only 50 shootings. It's only 200 murders. I don't know about you. I think one murder is too much. And the people that live in these communities are just having a horrific time on a daily basis, feeling safe.
Stephen K. Bannon
By the way, Pritzker, you know, 54 shootings over the weekend. He's walking to somebody and says, oh, no. You know, this happens in cities. And Trump should look at. Look, the MAGA movement is growing because African American men and Hispanics started coming our way, as we said they would, if we just worked and focused. Right? This is the vast majority. I mean, 70, 89% of this crime is against minority communities. They live in terror. They live in fear. The people and the Democrats don't care because they don't care about them. To the degree that we can get President Trump to do this and to come to Detroit, to come to the New Orleans of the world, you're telling the minority community, we're here for you. We understand that you've been terrorized by this. We're here to assist you and to help you take your neighborhoods back. How is that not a winning. How is that not winning policy, and how is that not a winning message, Mike?
Mike Rogers
Well, I think it absolutely is a winning message. And if you get to the heart of it, some people say, oh, this is, you know, political stunt that he's doing. You ask the people whose lives have been improved where they can now walk to the grocery store or walk to their car without fear of being shot or mugged or robbed or assaulted or worse, raped, murdered. You ask them what they think just happened in their community. And if you really want to start revitalizing urban centers. And I think Detroit is a phenomenal city and it has so much potential, but you're never going to get there. If we are the second most dangerous city in the country, it's not going to ever get there. Who wants to move there? And so I don't. They say, well, it's kind of isolated and, well, good, now we know where it is. Let's go get. Let's clean it up. Why would we ask these people to have to live in that environment when we now have been shown that this policy works in a city like Washington, D.C. i mean, we ought to stand in line and say, hey, what works is works. If this were a Democrat, I think it's, I'd be saying the same thing. If it works and you're cleaning up crime. Problem is, the Democrats want to say, well, since it's only this many murders, oh, it's only five rapes. It's only. What are you, what are you worried about? Well, I'm worried about 5 rapes or 200 murders.
Stephen K. Bannon
Has the mayor, has the mayor responded to you yet?
Mike Rogers
The only thing that they were doing earlier is trying to push back on our statistics. By the way, we got, we got these statistics that they reported to the FBI. I mean, again, it's, it's mostly everybody who is doing the CYA about, you know, gosh, it's not as bad as you say it is. I'm not saying it's bad at all. The FBI statistics report reported by the city of Detroit say it's bad. And what we're saying is, wow, we have a Way to do this. We should do it together. The mayor calls the president. I bet the president be here in two weeks, you know, helping fight crime and giving these people their neighborhoods back. And this is about people, you know, these victims. This, this affects their whole families. This isn't just a stat on a sheet. This, their whole lives are impacted by this. I was just talking to one of the radio hosts, was a crime reporter, Steve, and he was talking to people who were sleeping below their windows because the bullets might, if the bullets came through the window, it was correct. This is America. We don't have to have people live that way.
Stephen K. Bannon
American citizens. This is my point. You got to get the crime out here. Have you talked, have you had a chance, you're the Trump endorsed candidate. Have a chance to talk to Steve, Stephen Miller or any of the guys coordinated this for the President. Because I think Detroit ought to move, ought to definitely move up the list. And particularly all the great Michiganders, I think would greatly appreciate this.
Mike Rogers
Yeah, we made our inquiries for sure. And you know, I think part of it is as the President's doing, he's trying to respect the 10th Amendment. So a place like New Orleans that invites them in is a much easier case to make. But you could still do law enforcement surges in a way that they did in Washington, D.C. that under, you know, the, the National Guard gave the presence on the street to bring crime down. And then you had this surge of DEA and ATF and FBI guys in there catching criminals, illegal criminals and drug dealers and all of the rest.
Stephen K. Bannon
I like making the case. I like making the case. I'm an emergency powers guy. I like the fact there's an emergency in Detroit. American citizens can't live like it's in, like they're in Gaza. Okay? They can't do that. They're not supposed to do it. They're American citizens. This emergency, if the mayor is a corrupt Democrat and is not going to look the other way, and the governor's running for president, so she's never going to allow President Trump to come in. I'm all for, hey, call an emergency and send the National Guard in and federalize them. I understand you're doing the surge that you can do now and he's being invited into New Orleans. But the people in Detroit, in inner city Detroit, blacks and Hispanics are under siege. That's an emergency. It's an emergency in their life. Right. So I would tell the, I would recommend Stephen Milne, the president, hell with it. If Whitmer's not going to invite you in right and challenge in the courts. Let him come at you with posse comitatus. And let's see, let's, let's see where the cards fall. Take it to the Supreme Court.
Mike Rogers
Well, and you know, when they go interview people who are in these high crime areas, the media, if they have the courage to do that, they're sticking a microphone, people saying, hey, I don't know if I like it or not, but I know what I like. I like. I want to be able to feel safe. I like that. And that's a lot. And so you start thinking about what this is doing for these communities. It will empower them. This is what the people don't understand. I think on the left, they think that this is some kind of horrible thing. You're empowering the good people. And by the way, just because you're poor does not make you a bad person. And to be managed and you know, locked into a section of the city that nobody wants to go. Ridiculous. Every community ought to have a chance. Every child ought to be able to walk to school without fear for getting recruited in gangs or sold drugs or shot or assaulted. I mean, this is nuts. I mean, they've lost control of the whole sections of their cities across America. This is the opportunity. And you have a willing. Somebody's going to answer that phone, Mr. Mayor. Yeah, they'll answer the phone and say, what? How did we get there and how do we help? Why would you turn that? Why would you do that, Mike?
Stephen K. Bannon
Social, social media coordinates. Where do people go to find out more about the campaign.
Mike Rogers
Rogers rog ers4senate.com rogers4senate.com we'd love to have you. A lot at stake in this race. This is a state we can actually win for the future of the country and certainly the future of the state.
Stephen K. Bannon
We can see there's a, there's a pickup in Michigan right there if we get focused. Mike, thank you so much for coming on.
Mike Rogers
Hey, thanks, Steve.
Stephen K. Bannon
We're gonna need Michigan, I'm telling you folks, because town hall's got a great article up about Louisiana and Cassidy ain't gonna make it. Not gonna make it. Not gonna make it. Just flat out. And would that with his performance yesterday around Bobby Kennedy. No, no, not going to make it obvious you're going to have John Bel Edwards as a senator down there, unless you get.
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Carol Markowitz
Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Ham. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time. Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started Normalely a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen.
Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
I want to thank Senator Banks changed his schedule around to be here today. Senator, the reason I wanted to have you in here quickly is that you've got a bill. I want you to explain it, but I think it's one of the most important things out there, particularly given the fact that the Chinese Communist Party gave us a flex the other day, try to take full credit for the victory in World War II, have pulled together some of the worst people on earth to oppose us and you can't look away anymore. This is the main thing right here. We got to get our sovereignty back internally. We got to take care of all of our enemies here that are trying to destroy this country, get our sovereignty back. But you got to take on the main thing and the main things the Chinese Communist Party. Everything else is a sideshow.
Senator Jim Banks
That's right, Steve. So tell me about your biggest.
Stephen K. Bannon
Tell me about your bill and tell me about your bill and who's opposing it.
Senator Jim Banks
Well, the Gain AI act is simply an America First Amendment to the ndaa. The defense bill that's on the floor in the Senate next week. It's very simple. It says that you can't export American made chips to China or other adversarial countries if there is a backlog or demand for those chips in the United States first. It's as simple as that. There's nothing that's more America first than making sure that we dominate the race to AI and the technologies of the future rather than helping our biggest enemy dominate us. So It's a simple amendment. It also says that you can't, if you do export chips, if intel or these big chip makers export chips to China, they have to guarantee that those chips won't be used against America for economic purposes, against American industries, or even for other military and national security reasons, too. So I don't know how anybody could be against this. I mean, I, and frankly, it's a, it is a. It's in the bill right now. And if we, when we pass, when we have the NDAA on the floor next week, I don't know if there will be an effort to strip this out of the bill. But I hope, I hope my colleagues on both sides of the aisle will support it, because there's nothing more America first in making sure that our chips don't go to our enemies to use against us.
Stephen K. Bannon
But isn't it true that the word is the lobbyists hate this. They're all over this, and guys like David Sacks are telling people it's got to come out. Why would. Think of anything that's more pro American worker. America First. Pro America as a country and an economy for our security, our economic prosperity and our national security. Your amendment is pretty straightforward. Why would anybody, why would anybody oppose it? And why is David Sachs, who supposedly he coordinated that obscene tech dinner last night on the day of Bobby Kennedy's inquisition in the Senate? Why would these people oppose it? Why is every lobbyist in town saying, you know, Jim Banks is too America First?
Senator Jim Banks
Well, first and foremost, Nvidia is against it because they're the largest company in the world, $4 trillion company. And back in May, by the way, Steve, I found an unlikely ally in Elizabeth Warren. And we both sent a letter to Nvidia and ask, why are you opening up an R and D facility in Shanghai? To help. To help our biggest enemy. You're an American company. Why are you helping China with research and development for the chips of the future that's going to be used against America? So I've been. We've been raising these issues, and there's bipartisan support for cracking down on companies like Nvidia that are selling out America. So I guess I'm not surprised that a company like that would be against this amendment. That would tell them you have to sell the chips to the US First. And also there's language in my amendment that says you can't give preferential treatment for better prices to China than what you're offering your American customers as well. You got to go back, though, Steve. You and I both opposed the Chips act boondoggle a few years ago. 32 and a half billion that went from that bill to U.S. chips manufacturers. So if these companies like intel are getting rich off the backs of American taxpayers, then they shouldn't be allowed to send the product that they're making to our enemy like China. That's what my amendment cracks down on and stops them from doing.
Stephen K. Bannon
What feedback are you getting so far?
Senator Jim Banks
A lot of support. I mean, I get Chairman Roger Wicker a lot of credit. The chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee allowed me to put my gain act, America First Chips Amendment in the ndaa. It is a part of the bill right now as it stands. There will be efforts by the lobbyists and the deep state in Washington, the establishment in Washington to try to take it out next week because the lobbyists are lobbying hard against it. But we're going to fight back hard to make sure that doesn't happen. So I appreciate your support and your help. You understand this better than anybody. We can't allow American companies to sell us out to our biggest enemy. And that's what my America First Chips Amendment stops from happening.
Stephen K. Bannon
Senator, you're a Navy commander and you've seen this on the Financial Times. You saw what happened. They tried to take credit for winning World War II. It's now pretty obvious. And President Trump has gone out of his way with Lighthizer Navarro for work for two years on the deal he offered him in 2019. They ripped it up and spit in our face. President Trump is a master dealmaker and has been working with these people to try to figure something out. But aren't we to the point that we just got to say it's time to decd. I'm a hard. You know, if we do a hard decouple, Lao Baijang will overthrow these guys in a year. Just like if you cut off oil, towe don't need to go into Tehran. If you cut the illegal oil off, the mullahs are selling the Chinese Communist Party. If you cut that off, the people in Persia will overthrow the mullahs in six months. Isn't it time that we had a hard decoupling from the Chinese Communist Party in the American economic and financial system?
Senator Jim Banks
Well, for sure. I mean, that's the move of strength that the United States of America and President Trump can play to to bring some stability and sense back to our trade relations with China? Who's all. They always cheat. They always back out of their end of the deal. We can't trust them. That's why companies like Nvidia that are, that are cozy, which, with our, with, with the Chinese Communist Party. An American company like that, selling, selling our chips with a market for those chips in the US Helping China to dominate us in the air race is just, just, it's absurd. We can't, we can't allow that to continue to happen. And President Trump, I know he's, there's no president in my lifetime who's been as tough as President Trump has, has been on China. I'm very proud of him for that. And a strong strategic decoupling from China will bring them to their knees that all of the. This is why I support President Trump's tariffs. I mean, they're all oriented to putting pressure on China and bringing other countries, our trade deals with other countries all over the world to put America's economy first. That puts us in the best position that it's going to take to take on China to make sure that we control our destiny rather than our biggest enemy controlling it for us.
Stephen K. Bannon
By the way, it's the only president. That's why I say you got Washington, Lincoln and Trump's the only one that stood up to these guys at all. Everybody else is a globalist. And kowtow, where are Hoosiers on this? Do the folks in Indiana who are the backbone of this country, they get the geopolitics here, Sir?
Senator Jim Banks
Without a doubt. I mean, Steve, my dad's a retired union factory worker and he, all of my life he's taught me that China is our enemy. I mean, when I was a kid, we didn't buy things that were made in China because my dad knew that made in America is always the best product. And he taught me that from an early age. So, so Hoosiers get this. We benefited so much from President Trump's tariffs in Indiana. We are the top manufacturing state in the country. You have carmakers and other companies in our state that are benefiting from the tariffs, creating more good paying jobs. And Hoosiers understand that we can't sell out to China. We shouldn't be sending them our critical technologies that exporting things like chips to our biggest enemy. They fully oppose it and they support President Trump.
Stephen K. Bannon
Commander, where do people go? What are your coordinates? Where they go? Social media, your site. I want people to get all the information on this because it's a fight we got to win.
Senator Jim Banks
Well, find me on X at Senator Jim Banks or find me on Facebook as well. We'll keep everybody posted on this fight and other things that we're up to there, too. Thank you, Steve.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, Senator. Appreciate. You cut them off from. I said yesterday in the speech, cut them off from money. You cut them off from American capital, American technology. You cut them off from American expertise, and you cut them off from our education system, which taxpayers in this country are paid for. Cut them off and send them all home. And let's say they want to be tough guys. They're going to do a flex. You're a tough guy. She. You're tough. You're in our grill. You're going to do that. You ain't going to have much of a parade in a couple years without American technology either forcing it out or stealing. I think it's $600 billion a year in intellectual property they steal. And a lot of this is coming from labs, companies that got Chinese nationals working in them that all have to, whether they're good people or not. They're forced to, by definition, have to report back to the CCP on a monthly basis. Same with the kids in school. This is not picking on the kids. This is a system. And the system's got to be broken. Send them all home like tomorrow. And no, Commerce Secretary Ludnick, the thing that, oh, well, then the Americans will move up and the bottom 15% of the colleges. Hey, I don't give a damn about the bottom 15% of the colleges. That's a. That is called creative destruction. Something will have to happen. Or guess what? Maybe we allow more American kids to go there and we'll fill them out. We'll worry about that problem. That's not a. That's not a problem that keeps me up at night. The problem that keeps me up at night is that we're educating a. The CCP runs a system that is set out to destroy, as they have. They've killed 200 or 250 million Chinese. So I allowed. Beijing hates them. That's why Lao Bajing hates them. Everybody talks about Hitler and the Nazis. Everybody talks about Stalin and the Bolsheviks and the Soviets. You've got a more murderous dictatorship in China, and everybody's in business with them, making money with them. You're going to. They're going to have to answer for that. There's going to come a judgment day. You're going to have to answer for that. You're going to have to answer for your crimes and who you were in business with. But, hey, we're sitting there going, hell no. Taj Gil, brother, it's a day like today, I need. I got my pot of warpath in the galley Here and I've been. I got jacked up before the show because I knew it was going to be that kind of day. By the way, you had a fantastic. People are still talking to me about your. On every Labor Day. I get the entrepreneurs on here to talk about building their companies and people just actually absolutely appreciated you. I want to talk about the success of it particularly. What I love is that Steve Bannon and Taj Gill don't have to sell this coffee. It sells itself. From the. From the. Was it 13, 14,000 five star reviews right now?
Taj Gil
Yeah, right around 13,000. We're at just under 13,000 and it's climbing every day. If you haven't looked at the reviews, go onto the website. If you. It's warpath coffee and then just click on the review tab. It's crazy. We have like, like we just said almost 13,000 five star reviews. And they're amazing reviews. People love this. You usually only see these kind of reviews, these numbers on Amazon. So the fact that we have this many reviews on our website is pretty awesome. It's. We have a really loyal following and that's because we have such a good product with have amazing coffee. People love it. You can drink it straight black. You don't need milk, you don't need sugar. It's because we don't burn the beans and we use premium beans and they're fresh. So premium beans. Fresh beans. And then we roast it on a perforated drum. We don't burn it at all. And just read the reviews. You can see the flavor is insane. People love this coffee. So it's warpath coffee and those promo code is war room. Yeah. That was awesome. Last weekend for the Labor Day sale, when I went on your show, it was crazy. We had so much traffic come to the website. It was huge. It was amazing. I gotta give a shout out to the war room posse for buying up all our coffee last weekend. It was pretty crazy.
Stephen K. Bannon
No, I know your thing. You know one of the theories. I want you to stick around. We'll talk to you about the Chinese Communist Party in this, the front page of the Financial Times when Taj came out of combat and you know, came out of cycle and decided to start the company. Take a couple of years to put together. His theory the case was coffee is to be enjoyed for its flavor. Not just the kick you get from it, but its flavor. And that's what he worked on for so long, the best beans. A process that really enunciates the flavor of the bean. Short break back In a moment.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Taj, you spent your care as a patriot defending our country. First of all, the Department of Defense is going to be renamed the Department of War this afternoon. We'll be covering that on Real America's Voice. We'll be back here at 5 to talk about it. It's about time. And the Chinese Communist Party and what they did the other day in this victory celebration, they had nothing to do with victory in World War II, but they're trying to take credit for it. But I said in the speech the other day, this is the main event, and you got to focus on this. The Middle east is a sideshow and the Israel situation is a sideshow to a sideshow. Your thoughts, sir?
Taj Gil
Yeah, yeah. China. China is the main game in town. And you know, with their parade saying they won World War II, it's propaganda. But like the old saying goes, if you tell a lie enough times, it becomes the truth. So the Chinese are masters of propaganda. You know, they're partnering up with Russia and Iran and now India, and we've actually pushed them all together through this war in Ukraine. It's going to become a problem that the Chinese military is becoming a powerhouse. They've taken over the South Pacific. They've got, they've got stealth bombers, stealth fighters. They steal so much of our intellectual property and you know, I voted for Trump three times, but I don't agree with this. 600,000 Chinese students, students going to American colleges. Chinese people are great, but the Chinese Communist Party is not great. So in those 600,000 students, there's going to be a lot of spies, and they just funnel our technology back to China and it goes straight to the Chinese military. And another problem with the Chinese Communist Party is they supply the precursors to fentanyl to the cartels in south and Central America. And then that stuff killed Americans. Hundreds of thousands of Americans have been killed by fentanyl. And we still, you know, we've sealed the border, but we haven't addressed the root cause. It's coming on. Well, container ships to south and Central America.
Stephen K. Bannon
That's what I think. They're down around Venezuela. I think we got to get up around the cartels of Mexico. Agree with you. It's the second Opium War. Where did they go for this coffee? The champagne of coffee. A coffee that not just has the kick that you need, but also has the flavor that you demand. Where they go? Taish.
Taj Gil
Go to Warpath Coffee. That's the website. And then for the War room Posse, use promo code. War room. Right now, it's 15 off your entire order. Warpath Coffee promo code, War Room. And if you haven't tried it, try it. Just go there and read the review you have to do. Just read the reviews. We have amazing reviews because we saw an amazing product.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, go, go. Jump on. Read the reviews. It sells itself. Read the reviews. Don't take it from Tage. Don't take it from Steve. Taj, Gil, love you, brother. Look forward to having you back.
Taj Gil
Thank you, sir. Love you, too.
Stephen K. Bannon
What a man. Example right there. You can do it, too. Taj did it. You can do it. Trevor Comstock did it. Trevor, what do you got for us today? Fantastic job over the weekend. People love having you on the Entrepreneur special we do every Labor Day. What do you got? Another guy that stepped out, took a risk, and is building one of the great companies in the country. What do you got for us?
Trevor Comstock
Hey, Steve, Good to see you. So, yeah, I just wanted to quickly mention that our new Tylenol moisturizer is still continuing to sell like crazy since we launched last month, and it's quickly become one of our best sellers. So thank you, Warren, for all the support. It's been amazing. And then also I mentioned that we also just launched our new creatine product, which is amazing for brain health, memory, as well as muscle growth. So I really Encourage people to check out those two products specifically which have been selling very fast. But at least for today, I just wanted to highlight our flagship product which is our grass fed beef liver. Because I know many people still aren't familiar with the benefits of beef liver and they don't know just how powerful beef liver is when it comes to nutrition. But it's oftentimes called nature's multivitamin and for a very good reason. Mainly because it's packed with highly bioavailable nutrients like iron, Zinc, vitamin A, CoQ10, folate and many others which all do things like help support healthy skin, hair, immune, support heart as well as brain function. And then also, beef liver is amazing because it's has the other critical vitamins that most people are deficient in, so things like selenium, K2 as well as copper. And then last but not least, people love the beef liver just because they get the natural energy boost which people love and rave about. We get reviews and emails on a daily basis of people just raving about how much better they feel and how much more energy they have after taking the beef liver. So can't recommend that product enough. And a ton of information on our.
Stephen K. Bannon
Website, by the way. It's incredible. One more time on the brain. This your new brain supplement. It's absolutely incredible. We're on the site. I want everybody go check that out. Because you want to be sharp. You want to be. You got to be sharp to be in the war. In posse. This will put. This will make you razor sharp. Where do they go for that? Trevor?
Trevor Comstock
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, Trevor. Great job.
Trevor Comstock
Thank you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Tasian. Trevor. Tasia and Trevor back to back. And to make it Murderers road, make it 27 Yankees. I got the original MAGA entrepreneur, the Mike Lindell. No longer at the White House, thank God. I don't know what you were doing. No doubt causing trouble. Talk to me, sir. Devora Posse looking for a special. What do you got?
Mike Lindell
Well, just real quick everybody, this is the same weekend three years ago. I got my phone back. I got back to Minnesota. The FBI gave my phone back. They broke it, but they did give it back. What a long three years it's been. I'm heading down with the same guy went when they stopped us three years ago at that Hardee's restaurant. I'm leaving right after the show. But I wanted to get on for our winter products because remember, we're all baked. We've been debating the pillow. The my pillow sheets, everybody. 29.88. Any size, any color. We're doing a closeout special. The Kings are normally 119.98, 2988. Free shipping too for the war room posse. When they're gone, they're gone. We got any size split kings, cow kings, queen size. The best sheets you will ever sleep on. And you guys have done us this great favor by by keeping us supporting my employees. Go to the website, everybody. There's the closeout special. There, there. Take advantage of the free shipping. That's a war room exclusive. There's all the mypillow employee sale on all our great pillows. Our towels, once they're gone, they're gone. These are the bath sheets. They're called the oversized sheets. And then you got the mystore.com. over a thousand entrepreneurs, you guys can click on that. Have a way there. You got free shipping with the promo code war room there but I've said it before now. Have a way there. Free shipping with the promo code war room there but I've said it before now. If you need a good bed made in the USA or a mattress topper, now's the time you get all the money off with the promoco war room and free shipping. That's on us. 800-873-1062. I won't be taking calls today because I'm hitting the road but the downstairs. These guys love hearing from the war room posse. You guys make their day every time. Steve, we want to thank you for your support and yeah, we'll. We'll see you this weekend.
Stephen K. Bannon
Let's see this weekend. Hopefully maybe even talking at 5 o' clock if you're around. Anyway, we'll track down Mike Lindell. The great Charlie Kirk is next. Post office of that Remember this afternoon they're going to have a ceremony. President Trump's going to rename Department of Defense the Department of War. I'm back here at 5:00pm Eastern Daylight Time when you'll be back the war room.
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Date: September 5, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guests: Mary Holland, Dr. Taylor Marshall, Mike Rogers, Senator Jim Banks, Taj Gil, Trevor Comstock, Mike Lindell
This episode of "The War Room" with Stephen K. Bannon delivers an unfiltered discussion on America’s internal and external threats, focusing on health freedom, Christian nationalism, crime in U.S. cities, the Chinese Communist Party, and economic sovereignty. The guests—ranging from health freedom activists to political candidates and entrepreneurs—explore solutions against what they describe as regime corruption, big pharma, China’s influence, and lawlessness in American cities. The tone is confrontational, populist, and urgent, with guest segments centered on advocacy, strategic vision, and community empowerment.
Guests: Mary Holland
Segments: [01:49]–[06:25]
Health Crisis and Pharma’s Influence:
Mary Holland underscores the link between America’s health problems and political corruption, invoking Robert F. Kennedy's campaign to “Make America Healthy Again.”
“You can’t make America great if you’re not healthy. That’s really what Kennedy is about.” — Mary Holland [02:27]
Upcoming Reports and Political Pushback:
Major reports on autism and a "Make America Healthy Again" strategy are expected in September, generating significant resistance from pharmaceutical and political interests.
“There are two reasons why pharma is pretty petrified... they're pulling out all the stops.” — Mary Holland [04:44]
Mobilization and Information:
Holland calls for coordinated action, promoting trustworthy information sources—Children’s Health Defense, ICANN, National Vaccine Information Center—and social media accounts (@childrenshd) to combat mainstream narratives.
"Flood the zone. Come to @X Children's HD... support our messaging around this.” — Mary Holland [02:51]
Guests: Dr. Taylor Marshall
Segments: [06:40]–[15:14]
Advocacy for Christian Patriotism:
Dr. Taylor Marshall explains the philosophy behind his bestselling book Christian Patriot, positing that Christian values are foundational to Western civilization, national prosperity, and resistance to external threats (especially Islamic demographic growth).
No Neutral Ground:
Marshall argues for explicit acknowledgment of America’s Christian roots and urges activism to preserve demographic and cultural strength.
“There is no neutral, there is no vacuum... If we don't want to live in an Islamic country, we have to say we want to live in a Christian country.” — Dr. Taylor Marshall [08:41]
Twelve Strategies:
His book offers 12 actionable strategies, including increasing Christian birth rates and reclaiming marriage/family ideals.
Spiritual Foundation:
Marshall contends that only faith can truly unite and sustain a nation; secular conservatism is insufficient.
“The deepest part of who you are... is your faith. ...Christian patriotism is loving your patria.” — Dr. Taylor Marshall [12:12]
Guests: Mike Rogers
Segments: [17:35]–[28:52]
Violence in Detroit and Urban Policy:
Rogers details alarming crime stats in Detroit and advocates federal intervention to help communities plagued by violence, criticizing Democratic leaders for neglect.
Law Enforcement Strategies:
Praises targeted “surge” operations (as seen in D.C.), federal task forces, and the use of emergency powers—even in the face of local political resistance.
“Every city ought to be standing in line saying, how do we get in on this?” — Mike Rogers [20:46]
Political Opportunity:
Rogers aligns crime reduction strategies with President Trump’s appeal to minority voters, arguing that public safety is a universal winning message.
“You ask the people whose lives have been improved... and if you really want to start revitalizing urban centers...” — Mike Rogers [23:10]
Bannon pushes for use of emergency powers and National Guard intervention if local leaders resist, invoking constitutional urgency.
“American citizens can’t live like it’s in Gaza. ...If Whitmer’s not going to invite you in ... hell with it. ...Take it to the Supreme Court.” — Stephen K. Bannon [26:25]
Guests: Senator Jim Banks
Segments: [30:34]–[39:18]
The Gain AI Act:
Senator Banks introduces his “America First” amendment to prevent U.S. microchip exports to China if there’s domestic demand, targeting companies like Nvidia and Intel.
“There’s nothing more America First than making sure that we dominate the race to AI and the technologies of the future rather than helping our biggest enemy dominate us.” — Sen. Jim Banks [31:19]
Industry Resistance:
Banks cites massive corporate and lobbying pushback, including public opposition from Nvidia and influential tech elite.
Advocating Hard Decoupling:
Both Banks and Bannon call for decisive economic separation from the CCP, including ending educational and economic exchanges, and supporting tariffs.
“Cut them off from American capital, American technology, ...and our education system... Send them all home...” — Stephen K. Bannon [39:33]
Guests: Taj Gil
Segments: [45:42]–[48:25]
Propaganda and Strategic Alliance:
Retired military entrepreneur Taj Gil highlights China’s mastery of propaganda, alliances with Russia/Iran/India, and growing military-industrial capability.
Intellectual Property & Student Spies:
Gil warns of Chinese students in U.S. universities funneling technology to the CCP; calls for restrictions.
“Chinese people are great, but the Chinese Communist Party is not great. ...There’s going to be a lot of spies, and they just funnel our technology back to China...” — Taj Gil [46:48]
Fentanyl Crisis:
China’s role in supplying fentanyl precursors to cartels is characterized as a “second Opium War.”
Guests: Taj Gil, Trevor Comstock, Mike Lindell
Segments: [42:26], [48:36], [51:23]
Patriot-Entrepreneurs:
The episode spotlights conservative business founders—Warpath Coffee (Taj Gil), Sacred Human Health (Trevor Comstock), MyPillow (Mike Lindell)—as models for economic independence and patriotism.
Throughout, the tone is populist, urgent, and unsparing—mixing activism, policy critique, and salesmanship. Speakers employ combative rhetoric (“going medieval on these people” [01:07]), straightforward calls-to-action, and direct analogies to war and existential threat.
This episode offers a dense, action-oriented survey of today’s conservative concerns—from the fight against “big pharma” and health mandates; defense of Christian, Western civilization; federal intervention in violent cities; economic conflict with China; to grassroots entrepreneurship. Interviewees detail their strategies, promote community engagement, and advocate for direct policy shifts, all tied together by Bannon’s insistence on bottom-up organization and resistance to establishment powers.
For additional resources, follow guests’ social media handles and recommended websites listed throughout the episode.