TRUMP WARNS IRAN SIGN DEAL OR ELSE, POPE-RUBIO, WWII ANNIVERSARY | THE CHARLIE KIRK SHOW

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Podcast Summary: "Trump Warns Iran: Sign Deal or Else, Pope-Rubio, WWII Anniversary"

Podcast: Real America’s Voice – The Charlie Kirk Show
Date: May 8, 2026
Host: Charlie Kirk (with co-hosts Blake and Danny)
Notable Guests: Greg Price (conservative strategist), Dr. Brian Schmutzler & Trevor De Vries (IN GOP nominees), Listener call-ins

Episode Overview

This episode of The Charlie Kirk Show dives deep into the political aftermath of major redistricting court decisions, the ongoing U.S.-Iran conflict, state-level GOP victories, and the future direction of the Republican Party. The show features extended analysis with strategist Greg Price, firsthand reflections from Indiana’s victorious primary challengers—Dr. Brian Schmutzler and Trevor De Vries—and real-time audience Q&A. Throughout, the tone is punchy, combative, and urgent, with the hosts urging listeners to recognize a shifting political landscape and intensifying culture war.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Breaking News: Redistricting Wars and Court Decisions

Timestamps: [02:33]–[15:20], [11:24]–[21:26]

• Virginia Supreme Court Strikes Down Maps:
  Greg Price explains how Virginia’s Democratic-led redistricting process was declared unconstitutional because they failed to follow the required two-vote, two-election process. The court reverted to the 1965 maps, a win for Republican representation:

  • “Everything about it was illegal. And the Supreme Court did the right thing. … Deeply embarrassing for every Democrat.” — Greg Price [12:22]
  • Democrats’ political and financial investment in the failed process, including involvement from Barack Obama and Hakeem Jeffries, is ridiculed as a massive blunder.

• Wider Redistricting Upset:
  Charlie Kirk maps emerging GOP gains:

  • Texas +5, Florida +4, Ohio +1, Missouri +1, North Carolina +1, Tennessee +1.
  • “The redistricting wars are turning into a bloodbath for the Democrats.” — Charlie Kirk [15:20]
  • Hosts mock Democratic reaction as “tantrums” and highlight the irony of a likely black Republican woman winning a Tennessee seat.

2. GOP House Prospects and Dem Challenges

Timestamps: [19:09]–[22:32]

• Current Projections:
  GOP may not retake the House outright but is far outpacing expectations due to redistricting.

  • “Republicans … have a real chance of bucking history … and maybe not taking back the House but massively overperforming.” — Greg Price [19:34]

• Dem Frustrations:
  Democrats are distracted by messy primaries (notably in Michigan) and have weak national approval ratings.

  • Kirk and Price express surprise at the economy’s resilience despite international crises, framing it as a “white pill” for conservatives.

3. Indiana GOP Primary: Grassroots Takeover

Timestamps: [27:42]–[33:48]

• Meet the Victors:
  Dr. Brian Schmutzler and Trevor De Vries share personal motivations—a combination of faith, frustration with establishment GOP negligence, and the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination:

  • “Charlie getting assassinated got me really mad and motivated.” — Dr. Brian Schmutzler [28:21]
  • Both nominees emphasize accountability, grassroots action, and the pivotal role of faith in shaping new conservative leadership.

• Message to the Party:
  Kirk credits Indiana’s results for sparking nationwide courage among Republicans to challenge “old school” establishment incumbents and shift the party right:

  • “The courage that you exhibited stepping into the fray has had knock on effects…you proved the model.” — Charlie Kirk [32:01]

4. Reaction to Democratic Outrage Over Redistricting

Timestamps: [41:05]–[43:56]

• Vocal Critics:
  Hosts play and dissect clips from Justin Pearson and Stacey Abrams condemning the new district maps as racist.
  • “These maps are racist tools of white supremacy at the behest of the most powerful white supremacist … Donald J. Trump.” — Justin Pearson [40:11]
  • “We are watching in real time the restoration of the very laws … intended to deny black and brown voters the right to participate in democracy…” — Stacey Abrams [41:51]
  • The hosts counter, noting the paradox that the likely winner in Memphis will be a black Republican woman:
    • “A little ironic that the woman now who is likely going to win the 9th district in Tennessee is a black Republican woman.” — Lydia Moynihan [42:43]
  • Kirk: “So much white supremacy going on in Memphis. It’s just shocking. Really. It’s shocking.” [43:00]

5. Direct Audience Engagement: Ask Us Anything

Timestamps: [52:21]–[93:45] (spanning second hour)

• Donor Ethics Qs (re: PreBorn, Candace Owens):
  The hosts address listener concern about donating to a pro-life group that also sponsors a show they find problematic.

  • “We want to bless babies more than we want some sort of, you know, feud to take priority over that.” — Charlie Kirk [54:12]

• GOP Internal Power Dynamics:

  • Listeners and hosts discuss whether the Indiana grassroots wave will scare complacent GOP incumbents nationwide into action.
  • “This arbitrage opportunity … has been missing … all these deep red states were getting, you know, corrupt over time.” — Charlie Kirk [58:50]

• Messaging vs. Dem Narrative:
  Listeners urge GOP to craft a more compelling, story-driven argument to younger voters.

  • “We don’t need to lie, [but] we need to actually just explain to them the truth. … Our message needs to be stronger as to the long-term effect of what we are doing.” — Mark (listener) [67:14]
  • The hosts agree but note the innate difficulties of concise political messaging.

• The Threat of Online Extremism & Grifter Influencers:
  Several questions center on countering online voices (esp. Nick Fuentes) that drift between pro-Islam, anti-Trump, or anti-GOP positions.

  • “More than anything, like, I feel like I’m being lied to when no one has set principles.” — Danny (host, reporting friends’ reactions to Fuentes flip-flops) [80:22]
  • Hosts urge exposing hypocrisy rather than engaging in fact-based arguments with young people swayed by meme culture.

• Faith, Western Identity, and Islam:
  Clear denunciation of Islam as “totally incompatible with Western civilization.”

  • “I will die before I start simping for Islam. … It is a bad religion. It is a false religion and they want us all dead too.” — Blake [84:04]
  • Kirk criticizes any conservative flirtation with Islamic culture or identity politics and draws a sharp line at defending American and Christian values.

• Philosophy Corner – Socrates’ Legacy:
  Playful close-out with a listener’s question on Socrates’ decision to drink the hemlock (choose death over recanting beliefs), placing it in a Christian and historical context.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the stakes of redistricting:
  “The redistricting wars are turning into a bloodbath for the Democrats.” — Charlie Kirk [15:20]

• On grassroots leadership:
  “This was taking control of the situation at hand and keeping everyone accountable… If you do a poor job at your day job, you’re gonna get fired.” — Trevor De Vries [37:04]

• On responding to race-baiting:
  “These are all retreads from the heyday of the civil rights movement … It’s about darn time.” — Charlie Kirk [43:56]

• On the new GOP:
  “We want a conservative party, a Republican party that is as conservative as its voters.” — Charlie Kirk [47:06]

• On the online influencer ecosystem:
  “They’re very good at holding an audience in the moment, but … slaves to getting attention as opposed to values.” — Blake [81:46]

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Additional Context & Thematic Threads

• Marriage & Covenant:
  The top of the episode included a brief, heartfelt tribute to the 5th anniversary of Charlie and Erica Kirk’s wedding, celebrating marital faithfulness and covenant—a recurring note on the importance of traditional values.

• Elections & Accountability:
  The episode continually returns to the theme that complacency and betrayal by supposedly “red-state” GOP incumbents are increasingly unacceptable, with upstart conservative candidates ready to challenge status quo power structures.

• Media Cynicism & Messaging:
  There is a running skepticism about MSM narratives, with frequent suggestions that progressives overplay accusations of white supremacy, diluting the term and missing demographic shifts.

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Redistricting in Virginia: [11:24]–[14:39]
• National House Prospects – with Greg Price: [19:09]–[22:32]
• Indiana Victory Interviews: [27:42]–[33:48]
• Democratic Reactions & Race Discourse: [41:05]–[43:56]
• Listener Call-in: Donor Ethics: [52:21]–[57:05]
• Online Influencers/“Grifter” Discussion: [77:22]–[84:45]
• Socrates & Legacy (Fun Final Q): [87:23]–[93:11]

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Conclusion

This episode is a heady mix of political analysis, celebration of conservative advances, response to left-wing outrage, and practical, often tough-love advice to the grassroots. The hosts exhibit their trademark blend of sarcasm, righteous anger, and strategic optimism—insisting that “white pill” moments are real and that the U.S. is witnessing the birth of a more courageous, authentic Republican movement, rooted in faith, cultural clarity, and a willingness to fight for the future.

Transcript

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Lydia Moynihan]

We are expecting to learn the judge's decision regarding cameras in the courtroom and whether the preliminary hearing will be delayed. Back In March, Tyler Robinson's defense asked the judge to delay the May 18 preliminary hearing for six months because they need more time to go through all of the discovery in the case, including some 600,000 files. And they argue that the hearing shouldn't take place until they have received reports on the DNA analysis in the case, which we know police police have Robinson's DNA on the trigger of the murder weapon, but prosecutors argue that complete discovery isn't necessary for a preliminary hearing to proceed. And as far as that DNA evidence, they say they have more than enough evidence aside from the DNA to establish probable cause. Robinson does face multiple charges and a possible death penalty. Prosecutors and Kirk's widow Erica, of course want cameras allow for transparency from the

[Charlie Kirk]

Virginia State Supreme Court ruling the process to redraw that state's congressional maps is unconstitutional.

[Show Announcer / Sponsor Reader]

They had a referendum on this.

[Lydia Moynihan]

Critics of this referendum have said from the beginning that Democrats were on thin ice because they did not follow procedures as outlined by state law and state constitution. And what the court ended up saying Here is that violation irreparably undermined the integrity of the entire voting referendum. Said it makes it null and void. And for that reason, they say the congressional district maps issued by the court in 2021, the old, old maps, are the ones that they've got to use for the upcoming congressional election. Would you ever consider running for office?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I would. I would. I don't know why.

[Caller / Listener]

Yeah.

[Justin Pearson]

Wow.

[Lydia Moynihan]

But you're gonna go right to freaking president. Well, why not?

[Terrence Bates]

Why not?

[Lydia Moynihan]

All right.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, I'm a man of a certain age.

[Terrence Bates]

I've been around long enough.

[Mark]

Okay.

[Charlie Kirk]

I've, you know, I've worked hard.

[Danny]

I.

[Terrence Bates]

You laugh.

[Charlie Kirk]

I know people laugh, but no, I'm not.

[Terrence Bates]

I make maximum warfare everywhere, all the time.

[Brian Glenn]

In connection with the redistricting battle that Republicans launched. I stand by it. You can continue to criticize me for it. I don't give a damn about your criticism.

[Lydia Moynihan]

Little ironic that the woman now who is likely going to win the 9th district in Tennessee is a black Republican. Women. As a result of this redistricting effort, it's likely going to be a black woman Republican woman who beats that old white man.

[Charlie Kirk]

Did I make this very intensified over the redistricting in Tennessee? Democratic lawmakers protesting after Republicans in the state legislature passed a new congressional map in the wake of that landmark Supreme Court decision. That new map will split up the state's only Democratic district and majority black

[Blake]

district, paving the way for Republicans to gain another high, another seat.

[Justin Pearson]

These maps are racist tools of white supremacy at the behest of the most powerful white supremacist in the United States of America, Donald J. Trump. Memphis is the most beautiful place on the planet. It's the place that raised me, my brothers, my parents, my grandmother's, and where my ancestors bones rest. And what you are doing today is eviscerating the only black majority congressional district in our state because we are majority black. We are here because this Republican Party has to seek to steal elections and seats because the president and the party have refused to address the pain, the suffering and the struggling of everyday Tennesseans.

[Stacey Abrams]

We have to sit. What Tennessee is doing next to the fight, this coming out of Louisiana, next to the fight that will follow in Mississippi and likely in South Carolina. We are watching in real time the restoration of the very laws that pretended racial neutrality, but were intended to deny black and brown voters the right to participate in democracy, which is one of the principal goals of authoritarianism. They do not want the people who may disagree with them to be heard. And right now in the United States, race is the strongest predictor of political leanings. And so it's a lucky twofer. They get the partisanship, but they also get the white supremacy that they seek.

[Terrence Bates]

And if that is the case, let me make it easier for you. Let Memphis secede from the state of Tennessee. You don't have to redraw maps when you let us out. Let my people go and I'm dead ass serious.

[Charlie Kirk]

Charlie Kirk.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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Buckle up, here we go.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is Friday, May 8, 2026, and I am back here at the Y Refi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona. Blake, how are we doing?

[Blake]

We're doing lovely. We have good news today.

[Charlie Kirk]

There's so much happening. You know, some days I say there's a lot happening and there's only a little bit happening. I'm gonna be honest with you. No, I'm just kidding. There's always a lot happening. But right now there is so much happening that it's gonna be tough to get to it all in this hour. But I want to start first with some Personal news on the team front here at Turning Point. And that, of course, is that it's May 8, which means it is the fifth anniversary of Charlie and Erica. And I've already said it publicly, but I'm going to say it again on the show that I know for a fact that Charlie is so proud of Erica Kirk. And so in honor of that, the team put together a little something, and I want to play it in just honor of their marriage and their relationship and this fifth anniversary. That idea of marriage being a covenant is a big, big deal.

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In fact, only marriage in the Bible

[Charlie Kirk]

is compared to Christ's relationship with the church. To always prioritize your marriage, do you know what's really going to matter 30 years from now? What's going to matter is whether or not you have the love of your

[Blake]

life and you have decided to raise

[Charlie Kirk]

children for young people out there.

[Blake]

If you want to find meaning, find

[Charlie Kirk]

something worth taking responsibility for. Yeah. I'm grateful for you. I love you. I love you, too, babe. I love you so much. I love you.

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Marriage is the most awesome thing ever, everybody.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's amazing.

[Blake]

It really is. It's amazing. I think I've mentioned before, I only came here in 2022, so they'd already been married a few years at that point. He just had the first kid. But I remember it was kind of like. It was. It was like walking in on a scene in the middle of things. Because what I kept seeing was comments from you, from Tyler, really. We could talk about it all the time. Everyone was always saying, charlie's really different these days. And they would always remark how Charlie used to be so much more intense. He used to. He used to not do the Shabbat thing as an example. So he was bombarding people on Saturdays all the time. And everyone was saying marriage really matured Charlie. It rounded him out. Leveled him, as you said. Yeah. Made him. Made him into the most complete person.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, he leveled up completely just in his own abilities. When he got married to Erica, and I remember my wife told me, because he. I was one of the people he would drive crazy, especially on the weekends. And my wife was. I remember when. When they got married and we came down for it. I remember we were reflecting on it after it all happened, after they got married, and she was just like, I really hope this is, like, gonna be a good thing for our marriage, too. I remember, like, it really was. And you just saw Charlie enter into his fullness, into the fullness of his strength, and especially when they started having kids and Yeah, I just. I know Charlie's very proud of Erica and everything she's been through. I know I don't have to tell this audience all that she's been through, obviously, with the tragedy, but everything that's happened since and just how strong and courageous she's been. And so here's to you, Erica Kirk. Charlie is smiling down on you, and I know he's so proud of you. And so it's a. It's a weird thing to say, but, you know, we're. This is a day just to remember just the beauty of their relationship. And. Yeah. Happy fifth anniversary to you.

[Blake]

Happy five years.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. All right, without further ado, we got some breaking news on the Virginia front. And we're going to have Greg Price. You know him from X, formerly known as Twitter. He's a conservative strategist and has been following this closely. Greg, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

[Greg Price]

Thanks for having me, guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, sorry we had a little aside we had to deal with there, but big news out of the Virginia State Supreme Court. They have struck down the 101 maps. They are going back to the 65 maps. It feels like, Greg, that it was like the dark night of the soul. And then all of a sudden, you get the VRA ruling out of the Supreme Court. You get Tennessee and Alabama showing some fricking guts. You got Florida, now Virginia reversing.

[Blake]

Shout out. Ken Cuccinelli called it on this.

[Charlie Kirk]

Kennelli called it on the show.

[Blake]

They were going to strike it down.

[Charlie Kirk]

Bam.

[Blake]

Did they ever.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, give us your take. I know you've been following this closer than just about anybody, Greg.

[Greg Price]

Yes, it's a very white pilling day for patriots and especially those of us in Virginia who are happy that we get to keep our Republican representation. But it's a very simple constitutional question. Everything that the Virginia Democrats did here was blatantly illegal. In order to get this thing on the ballot in the first place, the way that the Virginia Constitution works is in order to amend it, you have to have two votes in the General assembly with an intervening election in between. So you have to have one vote on it. You have to have an election, and then you have to have a second vote on it. And they had to amend the constitution because in 2020, Virginia voted for a bipartisan redistricting commission. But what the Democrats did here is they passed it in last October in the middle of the governor's race. And at that point, early voting had started in September and been going on for 40 days. And about 1.3 million people had voted. And so they did that. And then there was the election. And then they voted on it again to put it on the ballot as soon as the General assembly reconvened. And the problem is 1.3 million people had already voted. And hilariously, their lawyers argued in court that early voting doesn't actually count as the election, that only Election Day should count. And so it was like. So it was completely unconstitutional how they got it on in the first place. And then they wrote, obviously, the completely ridiculous ballot language that said we have to restore fairness by taking four seats away from and completely disenfranchising the rural parts of the state. So everything about it was illegal. And the Supreme Court did the right thing. I honestly did not have faith that they were going to do this. But, you know, props to them for doing the right thing. And how just deeply embarrassing for all of the Democrats involved, between Abigail Spanberger and Louise Lucas, the crazy Senate Pro tem, and Don Scott, the Speaker of the House, they invested so much political capital into this only to get stuffed into a locker by the Supreme Court. Deeply embarrassing for Hakeem Jeffries. You know, the Democrats spent nearly $80 million on this referendum, and just about half of it came from House majority forward, which is Hakeem Jeffries Personal. 501 4. So deeply embarrassing for him. Deeply embarrassing for Barack Obama, who agreed to be the whole face of this and cut so many commercials in favor of this referendum. Just, you know, deeply embarrassing for every Democrat.

[Charlie Kirk]

We started with an anniversary celebration there. And Barack Obama has recently admitted that his decision to continue fighting President Trump has caused tension in their marriage, which is also unfortunate for the former president. I got a graph here. I guess not really a graph, but it's a visual of what we're now dealing with. Redistricting update after the Virginia map got struck down. So you got Texas plus five, the state. The court just affirmed that map. Florida plus four, Ohio plus one. Missouri plus one. North Carolina, Carolina plus one. Tennessee plus one. They just did their maps, by the way. You gotta love just the absolute insanity that broke out in Tennessee. The tantrums.

[Blake]

That was so amazing.

[Charlie Kirk]

The tantrums. This Justin Pearson clown, who went full ghetto, by the way, and just threw this massive tantrum against a police officer when it happened. So that counters California, which went D +5, and Utah, which added one, because that crazy court ruling there pending. Louisiana, Alabama and South Carolina, all plus at least one more. The redistricting wars are turning into a bloodbath for the Democrats. There's just And Blake and I were skeptical cuz we were traumatized from the old way that the GOP did business which was we talk a good game and then we just completely don't show up for the fight. This time we're actually doing it. I think Indiana had a lot to do with some of this as well, Greg. More with Greg Price, conservative strategist. He is a strategist and great follow on X as well. So real quick though, one more segment with Greg but want to tell you about strongcell.com I am back in here. I did not take it on this show.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Blake]

Two of them here in Arizona.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's right. So conceivably we still could lose the House, Greg. Right. With that 16 toss up races and the wind is definitely behind the Democrats. It's a midterm with where the incumbent party. So let's talk about what you see happening here. Do you like our chances are things trending in the right direction? What do we need to focus on?

[Greg Price]

Yeah, I mean we have like there are still months away from November and a lot changes in elections. Things can change, you know, just in a matter of weeks and so but Republicans I think definitely have a real chance of bucking history here and you know, maybe not taking back the House but massively overperforming in a way that hasn't happened before. And another way to think about it is like as you said, there's, there's because of things, because of all the redistricting and because of how polarized the country has become. If, even if you think if there's a worst case scenario for the GOP on election night, there's not that many districts that are to truly toss up districts anymore. And so you know, I, you know, obviously the economy needs to get better, gas prices need to come down. Obviously the pocket, you know, it's the kitchen table issues are the things that win and lose you elections. But you know, for, for, as, for, as for what the approval ratings have been for the administration, the approval ratings of the Democratic party have been in the toilet and they've never gone up for that. They are consistently lower than the president. And so that is still a Real, that's a real problem for the Democrats to contend with. The other thing is they're caught in a lot of extremely messy primaries right now, which I'm sure you guys have talked about a lot on the show, especially in that Michigan Senate race where you have those three people duking it out. And that's, that's an extremely late primary in August. And that's going to be, they're going to have millions of dollars spent in places like that just on the primaries alone. And they're dealing with lots of similar races like that across the country. And so, you know, people obviously, people freak out about the midterms and obviously, you know, the headwinds because it's a midterm with the incumbent party in power. You can't say they're in the Republican Party's favor. But there's still tons of things going our way and we still have a long, we're still a long ways away from November. This thing's only just begun.

[Charlie Kirk]

I agree. And you know, it's funny, I'll talk to Rich Barris who's sort of famously black pilling right now, which is fine. But you know, he says what is the silver lining here is just the Democrats can't get out of their own way. Right. They're going more radical. They're doubling down on so much of what got them in this place to begin with in 2024. So that's, that's the good news. The other good news is, you see there was a jobs report that came out this morning. It was like 65,000 predicted. We actually did 115,000. They upward revised March up 7,000 jobs, which is lo and behold, I mean, during Biden, remember, it was like every time they would do a jobs revision, they would cut out all the gains.

[Blake]

Yeah, it was, I mean, why couldn't a million year at one point?

[Charlie Kirk]

So, so the economy is actually showing massive resiliency. We're actually stronger than all the other rich nations in the world right now from a growth standpoint. And we have oil and we're now becoming a massive exporter of oil. So that's, that's a huge, these are huge benefits that despite the Iran controversy, despite the Iran conflict, we're actually showing amazing resiliency economically.

[Blake]

And we should know we still have six months to, well, five months at this point to get the, for Iran to potentially wrap up.

[Charlie Kirk]

Sure. We should be huge.

[Blake]

That would be very good. And it might even be you get one of those weird bounces where they didn't like that it happened, but they reward it ending.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, that can happen a lot with you, Greg. You mentioned, you mentioned Michigan. Our favorite guy, El Sayed or whatever his name is running for, is a Muslim radical leftist and he likes to lecture us on a revamp of democracy and all these things. He wants to pack the court, he wants to bring in the states. He's that guy. And I just find that really galling, by the way, just in general, like he's a first generation America lecturing me and you people, our ancestors blood and bones are buried and spilled all over this land and wars and fighting for it and preserving our constitutional republic and he's going to lecture us anyways. He campaigned with Hasan Piker. Hasan Piker has just reacted to this morning's Supreme Court ruling in Virginia, saying the Virginia Supreme Court denied the results of the redistricting referendum, SCOTUS gutted the Voting Rights act, and Tennessee carved up the last Dem district, destroying black voter power in the state. That's actually not true. It's probably going to go to a black Republican woman in Tennessee, but who cares about the details, right, Hasan? Anyways, he goes, those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable. This guy's a real peach and he wants to get conservatives killed. He wants capitalist blood strewn in the streets. He jokes about President Trump being assassinated. He jokes about Senator Scott getting assassinated. Greg, I just got to get your opinion on this real quick before we lose you. What the heck is going on with this kind of talk?

[Greg Price]

Yeah, I mean, if there was ever a case for ending birthright citizenship, especially for Turkish nationals engaging in birthright in birth tourism, I think Hassan Piker is, you should tweet a of that. I mean, yeah, he's just a psycho. And, and he's a psycho that, you know, and you know, we have psychos on the right too. But main, he's, he's a psycho being mainstreamed by outlets like the New York Times, who Democrat candidates like Abdul El Said are campaigning with. And so this guy's, you know, he, he may sound crazy to most people, but this is now, this is the ID of the Democratic Party. If that's right, if Democrats aren't already saying what the things out loud that Hasan Piker says on a daily basis, they're definitely texting it in their group chats and saying it to each other privately.

[Charlie Kirk]

And don't forget Jay Jones, who got elected to Virginia's as the Virginia ag. I mean, this stuff is so, it's so prevalent, it's so rampant, it's hard to keep up with it. I mean, it really is. That's how sick it has become. There is a, there is a rotation within Democrat circles and it's going to cost more people their lives, I'm sad to say. I just, I don't see them correcting course Greg Price. Thank you. Conservative strategist. Follow him on X and please tweet that out what you just said, Greg. That was brilliant. We're going to turn our attention to Indiana, which is having ramifications nationwide. We'll be right back. Forging an all new greatest American generation. It's the Charlie Kirk Show. All right. Charlie had a relentless passion for learning and we want to keep that spirit alive on this show. That's why we partnered with Hillsdale College, the beacon of the North America's greatest college. Dr. Larry Arn is a tremendous man, leads that institution and we're proud to be aligned with them. And you can go to charlieforhillsdale.com at any point. Should do it right now, as a matter of fact. Enroll in any of the number of their 40 plus free online courses. These are real college courses, rigorous, challenging, but you can get them for free because Hillsdale is so generous like that. They want people to be absorbed in the classics, absorbed in the founding, absorbed in biblical truths, theology, etc. So go to charlieforhillsdale.com to enroll today. It's completely free. A great place to start is their brand new course on logic and rhetoric. Learn from Hillsdale professors how to speak masterfully, how to make a powerful point and see how clear thinking leads to better decision making and more effective speech. Gotta check it out. Logic it and rhetoric. It's a brand new course from them Again, charlie for hillsdale.com enroll today. Start right now charlieforhillsdale.com all right, without further ado, I want to bring in two new GOP nominees from the state of Indiana. That would be Brian Schmutzler. Dr. Brian Schmutzler. I believe I'm saying that right. An Indiana state Senate GOP nominee. It's official. And Trevor De Vries, who's also a new GOP nominee from that state in a, in a huge win for grassroots conservatives all across the country. And we'll explain what I mean by that in just a second. Gentlemen, welcome to the show.

[Dr. Brian Schmutzler]

Thanks for having me.

[Trevor De Vries]

Yeah, thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, congratulations on a tremendous, tremendous victory in the GOP primary. So now you're facing the general. So I don't get to say state senator elect just yet, but I like our chances. Okay, so let's start with you, Dr. Brian Schmutzler. Right. I'm saying it right. I just wanna make sure those.

[Dr. Brian Schmutzler]

Yeah, you're saying it right.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay, good.

[Dr. Brian Schmutzler]

You call me Dr. Brian.

[Charlie Kirk]

Dr. Brian. That works. Future state senator, Dr. Bryan, tell us why you decided to get in this race and just your experience running and what you saw, what you learned. The floor is yours, man.

[Dr. Brian Schmutzler]

That's kind of a long story. And getting in the race. My grandfather was actually a state senator in the 60s and 70s down in Southern Indiana. So kind of always been in my blood. A lot of things happened with some anesthesia access and affordability stuff that I had worked on. And then, I'll be honest, Charlie. Charlie getting assassinated got me really mad and motivated. I kind of have a connection with. With Turning Point itself. Lucas Miles is. Is my pastor. I'm also the vice president of Turning Point Faith. And so, you know, after that happened, I got really mad and motivated, and then kind of the final straw for me was a redistricting vote. And so after that happened, I was in. I was fully in. And over the next few months, here we are. So, yeah, it was a lot of different things, but Charlie was a big part of it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Well said. That's a beautiful story. Thank you for sharing that, actually. And by the way, Pastor Lucas Miles is amazing. He's a great patriot. He's a great pastor. He's been on the show a number of times. He's leading the Make Heaven Crowded tour all across the country. So we've been putting him on the road. So I know he gets back on Sundays for you guys, but. But a great guy. Trevor Devries. Devries. Either way, I'm not sure. So you tell us the same. Same question to you. Why'd you get in this race? What did you see when you were running? What'd you learn?

[Trevor De Vries]

Yeah, so really, it came down to over the past couple years, it just feels like everyday Hoosiers are being squeezed and struggling more and more each day. And it just seemed like every time we went to our legislators voicing our concerns, voicing our comments and our opinions, it just seemed like they weren't actually listening to us. And really, as the reason I got involved is, you know, very similar. Dr. Brian, you know, my church is very heavily involved here locally. I go to Livingstones in Crown Point, Indiana, which that Make Heaven Crowded Tour. They're stopping at our church here in July. So super excited about that. And really, it's just when we saw Christian values and conservative values start to really slowly drift Away in Indianapolis, it was really time for the next generation of conservative leadership to actually jump up and fight to keep the Overton window from sliding further and further left on a daily basis.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, that's really well said, I think. And, you know, you see this, what you guys did and what you accomplished, and we were grateful to play a role. Turning point action. Tyler, Brett and the whole team just did a tremendous job in Tennessee. Gosh, there's so many states I want to get to. I'm looking at my call sheet here, but it did a great job in Indiana. And we're just so proud because I think what you guys have done, the courage that you exhibited stepping into the fray, has had knock on effects. And you see this in Alabama, where there's a literal tornado warning going off. The feed gets cut out because of the winds were so high. And they passed the redistricting map in Alabama following the VRA ruling from Supreme Court. You see in Tennessee, where they put up with a bunch of petulant children and Black Panthers getting in their face to pass through that new map in Tennessee, we're seeing a courage and a backbone in a fight in the gop in conservative movement that we had never seen, at least in generations, because we're finally fighting, we're finally pushing back. And I think what you guys did made such a huge difference. You proved the model. You proved there are consequences if you get entrenched. Rhino, old school GOP from the Bush era that refuse to realize what time it is, the fact that we are in a fight for our lives in this country. And I'm just so proud of you guys, and I'm so grateful that you did what you did. And I mean, literally, we have clips from all of this, by the way. Maybe we play them. But genuinely, a nation thanks you for what you did, because the knock on effects are going to prove extraordinarily valuable for the rest of us. Either one of you can take it. Blake, you can take it.

[Blake]

No, I'm so glad. Oh, yeah, you go, you go. You're the guest.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Brian Schmutzler]

No, I mean, you know, I was honored to do it. And I think, you know, Trevor and I are both. Both strong Christians, and I think we both believe that God called us to this. And. And, you know, it is bigger than just. Just Indiana. I mean, the people of my. My district, Senate, District 11, obviously, I'm gonna. I'm gonna represent them well. But I think, like you said, that we're representing a movement. We're representing a movement of youth in the in the Republican Party and Christian conservatives. You know, we're going to go down to Indianapolis and I think, you know, Trevor can speak to this, too. We've got a text string with all of the challengers who won, and we talk a lot about our faith, we pray together, we do all kinds of things together, and that's going to fundamentally change the state House in Indiana.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's amazing. Yeah, well said. I'm going to play this. Well, actually, I have a question before I play this. I was going to play Justin Pearson, this Black Panther out of Tennessee, anyways, but a lot of people were trying to diagnose what the message was from Indiana, and they said Trump still is the man in the movement. And yes, he is, but I think on a local level, on a fundamental level, this was bigger than Trump. Explain that, if you will, what the sense of betrayal that people had at the local level in Indiana. Trevor, you can take this one. Just that. That what they were really motivated by here. Yeah.

[Trevor De Vries]

You know, I think Dr. Bryan said it. Well, you know, Charlie lit a fire that really started in a little small bonfire that just grew to just a wildfire across the nation. You know, I remember the day he died very clearly. Right. I was with the Hoosier Leadership Series class Indiana family institute in D.C. and we were actually in the floor of Congress, and we came out of that and we heard that Charlie had been shot. And we immediately, all 65 plus of us, started praying on Capitol Hill. You know, and really, it's just people locally woke up heavily after Charlie was assassinated, and people noticed and realized and started paying attention far more than ever before, because the question kept saying, okay, who's picking up the microphone? And we are all Charlie Kirk. We need to lock arms and start moving forward together to make sure we fight to save our state, our country, and just save America for our children, our grandchildren, and the generations that come. And when it came to the conversations we were having regularly, you know, redistricting was an important topic, but it was never number one. It was always, hey, that was really frustrating. And then as I dug in deeper and started looking at the voting records of my legislators, people got more upset. People were frustrated. Our taxes are rising. Government, you know, is overreach. And big government, it's just growing. And that's really what broke the camel's back, is people are waking up, people are tired of sitting back. And we've realized how complacent and asleep at the wheel Indiana has been over the past couple of years.

[Blake]

No, it's. It's a good point. One of the topics Charlie really was harping on in the last couple years, he would talk about the need for red states to really step up and be as powerful as. As powerfully red as blue. States are powerfully blue. On this show, we're endlessly covering what they do in California because it's so extreme, or what they did in Virginia. They took over, they won a big election and they just, they ran. They've just failed on their redistricting. Thank you. But they've rammed through everything else to make it as blue as California, Oregon, Washington, New York. And we have a state like yours, Indiana, very red, consistently electing Republicans.

[Charlie Kirk]

And it's a big state.

[Blake]

It's a big enough state that if you're acting in a really red way, you can have a national impact. People will notice it.

[Charlie Kirk]

I want to play this clip and get your guys reaction because you talk about your Christian faith. This is state Senator Travis Holdman who lost by over 20 points and he's saying revenge and retribution is not a Christian value. Sod 8. How do you feel?

[Angel Mom (Mother of fallen soldier)]

Well, I have one lesson for people.

[Charlie Kirk]

Revenge and retribution is not a Christian value. And that's what this was all about. And I'm not bitter about it.

[Blake]

It's just the fact there's life after

[Charlie Kirk]

serving in the Indiana Senate.

[Blake]

And I'm going to find out what that's like.

[Charlie Kirk]

Dr. Bryan, your reaction? Yeah.

[Dr. Brian Schmutzler]

That this isn't revenge and retribution, it's accountability. When. When our elected officials fail us, they need to be held accountable. That's what this was, not retribution and, and revenge.

[Charlie Kirk]

Trevor, 30 seconds.

[Trevor De Vries]

No, I couldn't. Yeah, I couldn't say any better myself, really. At the end of the day, this was taking control of the situation at hand and keeping everyone accountable. If you do a poor job at your day job, you're gonna get fired. If you're not listening to your boss or to your co workers, you're gonna get fired. So for them to think that they can go off and do whatever they want and honestly lied to everyone saying that constituents didn't want this, it's false. So they did the wrong thing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well said, gentlemen, and congratulations. Godspeed in the general. We like our chances. And God bless you both. Thank you for your courage. Thank you for your kind words about Charlie. It means a lot to us. So thank you. God bless you both.

[Dr. Brian Schmutzler]

Thank you so much.

[Trevor De Vries]

Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Justin Pearson]

Sat 12 these maps are racist tools of white supremacy at the behest of the most powerful white supremacist in the United States of America, Donald J. Trump. Memphis is the most beautiful place on the planet. It's the place that raised me, my brothers, my parents, my grandmothers, and where my ancestors bones rest. And what you are doing today is eviscerating the only black majority congressional district in our state because we are majority black. We are here because this Republican party has to seek to steal elections in seats because the president and the party have refused to address the pain, the suffering and the struggling of everyday Tennesseeans.

[Charlie Kirk]

So he says that Memphis is the most beautiful place on the planet. Now, no disrespect to Memphis.

[Blake]

I think a lot of people would dispute that.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I, Memphis's murder rate is kind of through the roof. There's a lot of crime, a lot of problems there. I remember when we hosted our event at University of Memphis, it was.

[Blake]

I don't think I was at that one.

[Charlie Kirk]

No, it got overrun. I mean, the university was just completely. It was Kyle Rittenhouse. That's right. And they messed with it, the ticketing. And then it got overrun by all these, like, activists, like, you know, Justin Pearson became a really, like, almost violent situation. But that's, you know, that's what happens. Stacey Abrams, not to be outdone, is getting in the mix. Stop five to sit.

[Stacey Abrams]

What Tennessee is doing next to the fight that's coming out of Louisiana, next to the fight that will follow in Mississippi and likely in South Carolina. We are watching in real time the restoration of the very laws that pretended racial neutrality but were intended to deny black and brown voters the right to participate in democracy, which is one of the principal goals of authoritarianism. They do not want the people who may disagree with them to be heard. And right now in the United States, race is the strongest predictor of political leanings. And so it's a lucky twofer. They get the partisanship, but they also get the white supremacy that they see.

[Charlie Kirk]

Oh, white supremacy. Well, Lydia Moynihan, who's been on this show, was on cnn, and she has something to say about that. I thought it was a really good point. Want to shout it out? Soda Levin.

[Lydia Moynihan]

It is a little ironic that the woman now who is likely going to win the 9th district in Tennessee is a black Republican. Women. As a result of this redistricting effort, it's likely gonna be a black Republican woman who beats that old white man.

[Blake]

Could I make this very.

[Caller / Listener]

It actually is.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're going to come back to that. It's a great point. And that is true. The leading candidate for that seat is now going to be a black Republican woman. So much white supremacy going on in Memphis. It's just shocking. Really. It's shocking.

[Blake]

It's just so obnoxious. It's always the same thing.

[Charlie Kirk]

It is like they.

[Blake]

They have been. We've been running the same playbook at this point longer than almost anyone watching the show has been alive.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Anthony]

Yep.

[Blake]

It's been. Same thing. 70s, 80s, 90s America is racist. They're going to bring back Jim Crow. They're going to bring back slavery. They're going to bring back all these things. It's obviously untrue at this point. It's comedically untrue. You're actually. I Think. I think the stat is still true, that you're more likely to have a black lawmaker representing a region that's not majority black with Republicans than with Democrats.

[Charlie Kirk]

That's good. All right.

[Blake]

It's like Tim Scott has won a statewide race in a state that's not majority black.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, here's the thing. These are all retreads from the heyday of the civil rights movement, and it's about darn time. Listen, I'm not saying that we didn't have racism and white supremacy in the United states in the 1950s and 60s, and some things were done to correct some of that. And guess what? Some of it was a completely overstep and an overreach. It was extra constitutional. And some of those values were getting far enough away from the 1960s that we finally woke up as a country. A new generation emerged that wasn't tied to old lessons that potentially went too far, and we woke up to some of those excesses. All right, That's a good thing. The recalibration, the defanging of the R word racist at everything is a good thing for the constitutional republic by which we stand. All right. For which we stand. I will tell you that this was one of Charlie's guiding lights. His guiding principle was that America is not a racist country. We're not a bad place. As a matter of fact, we are historically good and not racist. We are the antithesis of that. People have taken advantage of our generosity. They've taken advantage of our colorblindness, and they have worked us like a bunch of suckers. Well, that era is coming to an end, I am proud to say. And you heard it directly from the Indiana State senators elect. I think they're gonna be the future Indiana state senators, that Charlie lit a fuse in them. They lit a fire. And that he inspired them to get off the sidelines, to get in those races and to take back power from the old GOP establishment that refused to fight for the voters. What did Charlie say more than anything? Well, he said a lot of things, but he said we want a conservative party, a Republican party that is as conservative as its voters. We are watching in real time. Yes, we have a lot of. Lot of challenges. There's a lot of people that want to take us down. There's a lot of people that want to infiltrate the movement and discourage us, divide us. Well, guess what? We are watching in real time, the fruit of so many years of labor. And Charlie deserves so much credit for what you're seeing unfold right now. And it's really heartening to see. These are white pill after white pill moments. The gutting of the vra, which was unconstitutional, we're gonna get a massive boost from that in the House. You're seeing state senators and Indiana fight back. You're seeing the redrawing of the maps against absolute infantile tantrum throwing in Tennessee, against a tornado watch in Alabama. And you're seeing that the accusations, the slings and arrows of these radical race hucksters like Justin Pearson and Stacey Abrams are falling flat because we don't fall for it anymore. God bless the United States of America and God bless all of you who helped make this happen. This is a proud day in our country. This is a beautiful new era that is opening up before us. May God protect it, encourage you. Let's get out to the polls this midterms. We got our Ask Us Anythings, Ask Us Anything hour coming up next. Don't go anywhere.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. Just moments ago, President Trump wrapping up remarks at the White House as he honored angel moms and gold star moms there. He offered up remarks, comforting them and thanking them for their sacrifices. Real America's Voice White House correspondent Brian Glenn is actually at the White House. He just left that press briefing, if you will, in the Rose Garden of the White House as the president offered up those remarks. Let's go to him now. Brian, good afternoon to you. Heartfelt comments there from the president as once again, he paid tribute to those angel moms and gold star moms who have lost their children in the service of this duty or on the one hand, at the hands of illegal immigrants.

[Brian Glenn]

Yeah, Terrence, I remember I just lost your IFB here briefly. An amazing ceremony in the Rose Garden with the flowers and just a beautiful day. And obviously the president going over a lot of the policies that were put in place to protect our lives and protect Americans. And like you said, a lot of those gold star moms and angel moms have lost their sons and daughters in the line of duty. But just what a beautiful day to pay tribute to these very special moms coming up on this Mother's Day.

[Terrence Bates]

And Brian, while he did pay honor and tribute to those moms, another thing that I noticed is that he highlighted the changes that are happening there at the White House. Obviously, we know about the highly publicized ballroom which is being built there, but he also talked about the president's Walk of Fame and the fact that he's added even more roses to the Rose Garden. He's sprucing up the place.

[Brian Glenn]

It is the most beautiful setting that I have seen on that rose garden. I'm going to post some pictures up on social media. I was too busy taking pictures and video and listening to his speech, but I'll throw it up there. He had a special rose garden rose stand, like a flower stand that he set up for moms to go and pick out their flowers. And plus, of course, the new patio with the umbrellas up in place to provide some shade and shelter. Talk talked about the ground, the actual structure of the rose garden before. If it rained a little bit before an event, guess what your high heels mentioned. Brooke Rollins would sink into the grass, making it very difficult. So he did vast improvements on this rose garden. Of course you have the colonnade he what he called the Wall of Fame or the Walk of Fame, the Presidential Walk of Fame. That's what he has infamously. He's put up all the presidents that even when he has Joe Biden auto pen is up there as well. So it seemed to really make these vast improvements here at the White House to make it a little bit more comfortable to have an event outside.

[Terrence Bates]

Brian, I've been looking at the President's schedule for today. There are some policy meetings that were on his schedule and that kind of thing. What's the buzz there around the White House in terms of the big issues that are being addressed right now?

[Brian Glenn]

Obviously, Terrence, right now it is the war and where we stand with negotiations with Iran. And of course, we had a little escalation yesterday. President Trump likes to call it a love tap when one of some of our vessels was breached upon as far as threatened and we retaliated. So that continues. A ceasefire is still what you could say in place, but negotiations still continue as we try to bring an end, official end to this war. So all eyes and all attention as to that from what I understand today,

[Terrence Bates]

Brian, today also your last day on our network, at least for the time being. Want to thank you for your service and all the work you've done. It's obviously been a pleasure. Want to give you these last 30 seconds if you'd like a final word.

[Brian Glenn]

Yeah, you know what? All I got to say is real America voice and all other viewers and everyone who makes it happen are very special people. I'm very grateful to be able to do what I do right now. And I just love each and every one. If you're hearing my voice right now, I love you and I'll always have a special place in My heart, Terrence.

[Terrence Bates]

Well, Brian, you know, you have a special place in my heart as well. Appreciate your hard work. And this is not goodbye, it's just goodbye for now. We'll of course be talking to you soon. Brian Glenn reporting for us there at the White House. His final report at the White House this afternoon. That's a quick check of your head guidelines.

[Charlie Kirk]

Alright, welcome back. Hour two of the Charlie Kirk show is underway. It's Friday. Hour two means it's an ask us anything hour. You can join us at members.charliekirk.com Become a subscribing member of the community. You help us keep the lights on. You are our closest part of our Charlie Kirk family here and we appreciate you so much. And as a result, you get to call in on Fridays and ask us anything that is on your mind. So again, that's members.charliekirk.com Danny, who's up first?

[Danny]

We got Kelsey first.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, Kelsey, please unmute yourself and welcome to the show.

[Kelsey]

Yes. Hi, guys.

[Charlie Kirk]

Hi, Kelsey.

[Blake]

Thanks for calling in.

[Kelsey]

Yeah, thank you. And if I may quickly say happy anniversary, Erica.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes, you may.

[Kelsey]

So the question I have for you is that an organization that I like and have financially supported for years sponsors an online voice who consistently produces disgusting slander against Erica. I'm torn because this organization does good, but I hate that they continue to support the Liar. And I don't know if I should continue to give to the organization. What might Charlie say about the moral ambiguity in this situation? Or is there something about how show sponsors work that I'm unaware of as a listener that could bring peace of mind that my money goes to the work of the ministry and not the pocket of who I believe to be an evildoer.

[Blake]

Well, Andrew, you. You do most of our work with the advertisers.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. So I. You're talking about pre born, I'm assuming.

[Caller / Listener]

Yeah.

[Kelsey]

I wasn't gonna name names, but yeah,

[Charlie Kirk]

I figured it was. I figured it was. I probably should have left it ambiguous as well, but I kind of assumed that's what. Because I've heard so much about it. Preborn is a, is a sponsor of Candace Owens show. And that is, I know, frustrating because they've been a sponsor of our show for a long time and we love the work that Preborn does. And you know, it's interesting, if it was a different category, then maybe I would feel more, I guess, you know, one way or the other about it. But because it's saving babies, you know, God will use that which was meant for Ill. And he will use it to bless people. And, you know, that's a lesson that we get from Joseph in the Bible. And I just, I believe it. Right. And, you know, God will use all things for his good and his glory, and so we trust in that. And it's, listen, it's saving babies. And if that's one of the good things that comes out of that partnership, then I'm all for it, actually. And I've thought hard about this and I've thought, you know, should I make a fuss? Should I send emails or make phone calls? And it's kind of like, you know, and you to your other part of your question where you said, is there something about sponsorships that you're unaware of? Yeah. Sometimes you're locked in, in contracts and you could get yourself into legal liability issues if you pull out of a contract without cause beforehand. Now the question is, is there cause? I would venture to guess yes, there is. But if you're locked into contractual terms, the easiest option is probably just to continue on. And when somebody has a large audience, which Candace does, there's no denying that she does, then you're probably going to get a lot of, you know, referrals. And so anyways, we want to bless babies more than we want some sort of, you know, feud to take priority over that. And, yeah, we didn't start the fight, she did. But at the same time, it's babies, and I want more babies.

[Blake]

What I would say, I would also add, even if we're not looking to pick a fight of that nature, if you feel strongly about it, I would encourage you to send them an email. You could say, I have concerns I might cease support, or I might support you more if you were to make a different decision of this nature.

[Charlie Kirk]

People do seem blessed if they, if they made that decision.

[Blake]

I know I've. I don't. I wasn't able to find it on shortness, but I know some people have done that and they have sent replies of that nature, basically saying, you know, we have contractual relationships. We do hear from people about this. You might, you.

[Caller / Listener]

They're.

[Blake]

They're pretty frank and they do, I think in their letter they mentioned, you know, our chief goal is saving babies and we try to avoid wading into fights of that nature. And I think that's a very good Christian point of view for them to take.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And again, if it was a different category, I'd probably be more upset because, like I said, they do sponsor this show and we're grateful for their sponsorship. And that's not why I'm saying it, by the way, if I had a moral objection to one of our sponsors, we would have no problem being like, hey, this partnership is done. But again, it's saving babies, and that's a huge thing. And so. And they do a great job, by the way. They do a really good job. And they've really embraced technology and lead gen to find these moms to work with, the clinics to get where they're at in these urban cores a lot of times where a lot of other groups just simply aren't equipped to go. They don't have the resources to go. They go where it's hardest. They go where it's legally fraught. And so, you know, I'm just. I'm really proud of our relationship with them. And Dan does a great job with that organization. So in general, I get your concern. In this case, I put that aside because the mission is too critical. So. Hope that answers your question.

[Kelsey]

Yep. Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk]

Who's next?

[Danny]

We got Anthony.

[Blake]

Ah, Anthony's back.

[Charlie Kirk]

Our boy, Anthony. Welcome back to the show.

[Anthony]

Thanks, guys. How y' all doing?

[Blake]

We're doing lovely.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, It's a great day.

[Anthony]

That's good. Hopefully Andrew won't be doing good come Monday when my Braves beat his Dodgers.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, listen, Braves are really good this week. The bats are coming back to life for us. So, you know, they went. They went sleepy for a little while.

[Danny]

The Cubs?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, the Cubs. Can we talk about the club? The Cubs. I've gone on this home winning streak that's just insane. And they about lost a couple times. They pull it out right at the end. Almost like game seven in the World Series. When Miguel Rojas hit that home run, we were down one

[Anthony]

hitter.

[Charlie Kirk]

What's that?

[Anthony]

We lost. We lost our first series to the Mariners. We were 10.01in series this season going into Seattle.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep. Yeah, yeah. Well, listen, the Braves have a lot of talent. I'm not a huge fan of Atlanta in general. I think it's got too much traffic, too much corruption. They run elections like they're a bunch of Somali pirates. But whatever. Continue. What's your question, Anthony?

[Anthony]

All right, so my question is this. So what we just saw in Indiana with the state primaries, do you think that's going to send a shockwave through the rest of the gop? Not like all at. At. At every single level now. Like, hey, we've allowed you career Republicans to be in office for X amount of years at every level. You've now really haven't been working for the people the people are upset, and now we're just going to primary you, get you out. Do you think they're going to start listening to this or are they just going to push it to the side? Like, well, this is just a little bit of a speed bump type thing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, so you're familiar with the expression or the term arbitrage, right?

[Mark]

Yes.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think what happened in Indiana was this arbitrage opportunity that has been missing from our formula on the conservative side because we focus so much on swing states and getting swing races over the finish line. And so what would happen is you'd get like these really conservative, dynamic people out of these swing districts because we were putting all these resources into candidate recruitment and base turnout. But what we left was all these deep red states that were getting, you know, corrupt over time. They were getting soft over time, complacent over time. And so we would constantly complain that the Democrats had these total fire breathers out of these deep blue states that would send their most radical people from California or wherever. Meanwhile, our deep red states were getting softer and softer and more moderate. More moderate because the establishment Republicans became entrenched in power. The arbitrage comes when you realize you can primary these people and the voters are deeply unsatisfied with their product, their work product. And then all of a sudden you're starting to see that states got the memo. This is why I think what you saw in Alabama happened when there's a tornado coming through. They got the memo and they still pass the maps, despite the fact that the power shut off immediately after because the winds were so high. I mean, it was a dangerous situation. They still got those maps.

[Blake]

I would like to add this. The GOP establishment, it's the establishment because they hold offices and they hold power. And what we see is in state after state, they just. There aren't these guys there anymore. They're losing office, they're losing power, they're retiring, they're being driven out, and eventually just there is no establishment to reassert control. And that's very, that's very heartening.

[Anthony]

I'll be, I'll be honest. At my GOP caucus in my town, we have a town boardwoman who went against the people on a solar farm. She had over 400 people sign up, there are petitions. Over 60 people were going to town board meetings. And she basically told the people, well, why should I not approve this? Because they filled out all the correct paperwork so I should approve it. And I told her in our Cox meeting, I go in any other gop party in a strong state, you would have been censored immediately because you went against your constituents. I go. This is a town level. And I created an uproar. And now, from what I've been told is people in the caucus want to nominate me for being on the vetting process for our local candidates in my town's gop.

[Charlie Kirk]

There you go.

[Anthony]

And I told my. I go, guys, I'm not afraid to rock the boat. You come after me, I don't care.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, good for you. We need. That's exactly what we need. We need people that stand on principle and that aren't cowed by a little complaining because that's what they've done to us for years. They just complain, shriek, wail, yell, and we fold like a cheap suit. Not anymore. That era is gone. We'll be right back. All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are at the Y Refi Studios. Proudly got the mic flag right here. Still proud of this thing. It's just so great. I think we're gonna get them on all of them. So you guys will be able to participate in the future. I want to tell you about why Refi accredited investors can now earn up to 10.25%, and that interest rate is fixed. You can invest from one to five years, and you could spread your investment over those terms to best suit your needs. When you invest in Y Refi, your interest is calculated daily and paid out monthly. You then have the option to take that interest and reinvest it or take it off the board as profit, which is also great. Either or so. Maximum flexibility, maximum transparency, maximum optionality. That's the way they do business. That's why we love them. All right, so check it out. For more information, call them at 87780 invest. That's 87780, invest. Investyrefi.com so if you value the work that Turning Point does, if you value our tours, they sponsor all the tours. These are amazing patriots. Their values are in the right place. They put their money where their mouth is, and we totally stand behind them. For complete details, make sure you review the private placement memorandum. Scan this QR code right there on your screen to view the disclosures at your leisure. Why Refi investing in America's future? Who's next?

[Danny]

We have Mark.

[Charlie Kirk]

Mark.

[Danny]

Mark.

[Dr. Brian Schmutzler]

Yep.

[Charlie Kirk]

Mark. Welcome to the show. Please unmute yourself.

[Mark]

Hi, guys. Can you hear me?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes, sir, we can.

[Mark]

Right on. Okay, real quick, guys. What is sock. Sock 25? When you say sock 25, it's like, clip sound on.

[Blake]

It stands for sound on tape.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake]

And it's just it.

[Mark]

It's.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's a broadcast expression.

[Mark]

Every time I hear that, I go, why does he keep. It just sounds like a. You say in sock.

[Charlie Kirk]

S, O C K. I'm glad you brought it up. That people. I guess that makes sense that nobody knows what that term is outside of broadcasting. So. Yeah, no, that just means, like, throw the clip up.

[Mark]

Yeah. Because you used to say clips. Okay, I got that out of the way. It was bugging me.

[Charlie Kirk]

Number two.

[Mark]

Go Cubbies. Half my family, Chicago.

[Charlie Kirk]

I love and I like watching them. They're fun to like.

[Danny]

Over half of their pitching staff has gotten hurt this year, too.

[Charlie Kirk]

Like, there's a whole epidemic. They're three betting hurt.

[Danny]

Their three best starting pitchers have gotten hurt. Two of them are out for the year. So if they get trade for some pitching at the deadline here, watch out. They might. Might win it again this year.

[Charlie Kirk]

Wait, hold on, hold on. I want to talk about this really briefly, Mark. There is an epidemic of pitchers going down.

[Danny]

Well, so I worked for Ohio State's baseball team too, and we saw this. I saw this there as well, that like, half of the pitchers that we had would blow their arms out. With Tommy John, it's. They're overusing their arm because the new focus has been on velocity instead of command. So they're having these kids starting at like 12 years old just try and throw as hard as they possibly can, and their ligaments just can't take it by the time they reach high school and college.

[Charlie Kirk]

Good news is Tommy John's johns is a good. Pretty pretty successful surgery. So these guys come back pretty strong, but it takes a year off.

[Danny]

Yeah, we've had guys that have gotten it like four times. Tommy John. I don't know what ligaments they're even pulling from, but.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, exactly.

[Blake]

I can't follow baseball super closely because the Twins have been sacrificed by their owners to just be a cash cow that will be terrible forever. And so although technically they're competitive because the AL Central is the worst. It's the worst division in, like, the history of baseball. And so they might win it with, you know, 450 record.

[Danny]

Well, the Indians, usually.

[Blake]

Yeah, yeah, the Indian. We're calling them the Indians here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, Forever Indians. Okay. All right. What's your question mark?

[Mark]

Okay, so here's the thing. It's more of, I think, of a statement. I think that especially with your high school and college chapters, I think that we need to create a storyline and the cool thing about our position right now, the Republican position versus in my opinion, I call them the Democratic communists. They that party, yes, I know there are moderate Democrats. But what the party has become, it really has become authoritarian or authoritarian. Authoritarian and in my opinion communist. But the thing that they do well is they actually create a storyline and they stick to it, in my opinion. One of the things that I think that we do poorly is creating a storyline. For instance, Iran, that Iran war is a pain. But the long term effects of that, I've heard a couple of your students come on and they complain about that. But the long term effects, if that pans out where we can remove all of their nuclear weight or nuclear arms, not to mention forcing China to pay retail for oil, that weakens them militarily and it actually strengthens us from a manufacturing point of view because we can't beat slave labor in China. But if we increase China's ability to the cost of their manufacturing by forcing them to pay retail on oil. Right, not to mention Venezuela.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well it's not just, it's not just the price they pay, by the way, Mark, it's the fact that, yeah, they've been getting cut rate oil from Venezuela and Iran for a long time. We're taking that off the board. But it's also where the money flow is going. So that money, even though it's discounted, it's flowing into the coffers of Iran, it's flowing into the coffers of Maduro at the time. Now that's no longer happening. It's actually going into a peaceful country that wants to work with us and be a part of, you know, civilization. Right. And so what was happening in Venezuela was becoming a playground for the Russians, the Cubans, the Chinese. That's off the board now.

[Brian Glenn]

Yes.

[Mark]

And this is my point. I want what I would like you guys to do and start with your high school and college chapters, is help them understand the long term. And one of the ways that you do that is you give them, I call, you know, you call it a sales pitch, a storyline. The benefit, the beauty of where we are is we don't need to lie, we don't need to create a line of propaganda like the communists do. We need to actually just explain to them the truth. And so this is why our position is strong. But this is why I'm so worried about the midterms, right? Because these state elections bug me and every time I hear I just feel, I just got a bad vibe. I don't want to be doom scrolling, you know, getting all bummed out here. But basically I don't want to lose any more elections because if we do, we're at a critical, critical point here. And I just feel that our, our message needs to be stronger as to the long term effect of what we are doing. This affects us.

[Charlie Kirk]

I get what you're saying. Blake, do you, do you have a thought here?

[Blake]

No. It makes, it's always, it's always a struggle. It's a struggle. Messaging in elections is always hard. And we know President Trump has a, almost he's an extreme natural at it, but a lot of people, Charlie was a great natural at it, but it's a huge challenge. Otherwise politics would be a lot easier than it is and you're going against opponents who are also good at it. I do feel we have something of an advantage and that I do think the left is getting, over time more nakedly awful. I feel like we're a lot more likely today to see left wingers who will just celebrate, for example, Charlie's murder. They'll gloat about really nasty stuff. They'll celebrate Luigi. They are producing guys like this arsonist in California and they're, they're doing some work for us in terms of embracing the most destructive, nastiest parts of their impulse. And we're also saying this, let's be frank with some of the most nasty people on our side are the ones who are also saying, oh, actually we need to team up with the left to bring down this administration. The new thing, I think that's helping us.

[Danny]

The new thing is like the burn it all down politics where.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Acceleration.

[Danny]

Yeah. Students think they can just burn it all down and we'll build up from scratch when that's never been the case. So you really have to kind of show them how that's not possible. That's never been possible, that you're only going to make things perpetually worse.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and here's what I will say. We've tried to make that point. This could be politically damaging in the short term, the Iran conflict and absolutely the right call geopolitically in the long term, it could end up blessing this country for generations. And I agree with you. We need to do a better job of communicating that while also not frothing at the mouth for war, because we don't want that either. We'll be right back.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to this real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates. The White House celebrating Mother's Day just a little bit early. Mother's Day isn't till Sunday. But just moments ago, President Trump honoring gold star moms and angel moms in the Rose Garden of the White House, giving them their roses.

[Angel Mom (Mother of fallen soldier)]

Is it easier with time? Because time has gone by. Marianne no, it's not. Sadly, it's not. You know, you always hear with time and time and. But a lot of people say it's not. It's not easier, but you're a special woman. I've gotten to be a friend of yours. You're a special woman. What you have to go through is disgraceful. Tammy Nobles? Tammy, are you here? Tammy Nobles, right? Does time help? Tammy? No.

[Mark]

No.

[Angel Mom (Mother of fallen soldier)]

It used to be, you know, time heals all wounds, right? But it doesn't. When you love somebody that much, it doesn't. Doesn't help like it should. Jacqueline Medina, a great person. Where is Jacqueline? Jacqueline, where are you? Thank you, darling. Thank you. And so many others that I want, I want to thank you for coming. And I don't think you've been treated properly. It's hard to believe, but the angel moms have not been treated properly. But this president treats you properly. I can't speak for others, but this one treats you properly. And we love you all. And all I can say is our hearts are out to you on Mother's Day. And you have a good Mother's Day. Go and have a good Mother's Day.

[Terrence Bates]

Just in case you're wondering, surrendering angel moms are mothers who have lost loved ones, specifically children, at the hands of illegal immigrants. The Trump administration still saying the ceasefire with Iran is in effect. On the other hand, Iran attacked three American Navy ships in the Strait of Hormuz, and the US Retaliated with strikes on Iranian military facilities Thursday. Plus, Iran launched missiles and drones on the United Arab Emirates this morning. All of this happening as US And Iranian negotiators are at the bargaining table trying to work out a deal to end the two month long war. While there's been no return to all the war, it's not clear how close the two sides are to a deal that would be at least stopping all the missiles and drones that are being fired.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Danny]

We have Ann.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Please unmute yourself. Ann, are you there? Unmute yourself if you can. Do we have her question?

[Blake]

I'm sorry, what's your question?

[Caller / Listener]

I was on the wrong screen. Before I get my question in, I wanted to say I really loved what you did with Charlie and Erica today. That just makes me so sad and I feel so bad about you guys and Erica. So Happy anniversary to Erica.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, thank you.

[Caller / Listener]

Thank you so much. Before I got to my question was I really liked what Anthony was talking about and I wondered if he was discussing whether this is going to be a scare for all the other legislators. And he was talking about the state. And I was just wondering if you guys thought that the federal, you know, people were having problems within the Senate and, you know, in the House. But do you think that what's been going on with Indiana is going to give a scare to them? Because I'm always thinking about the Save America Act. That was just a little addition to my question.

[Blake]

We can hope. We can hope. It's always tougher. I mean, senators, they serve six years. They are, they always got where they are by having a big base of power. I mean, we look at Lindsey Graham, people have wanted to unseat Lindsey Graham for ages, but he's been around a long time. He's got, he's very good at politics. He's good at getting Trump support. He's good at getting institutional support. And they're older, they can kind of care a little bit less.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's just tougher across a lot of money, too. I will tell you. Look at Texas with Paxton and Cornyn. Cornyn's a guy that has been a thorn in Trump's side, but the, the national apparatus, the Senate apparatus, if you go to like Fox News, all these guys go on Fox News said, we need corn and we need corn and we need Cornyn. The base doesn't like him nearly as much. Paxton is winning in that race and yet they're going to dump 100 to $150 million in a Republican primary. This isn't to beat Dems. This is what they're spending to beat a fellow Republican who's more popular with the base in that state.

[Blake]

It's just challenging state, state level. Republicans are more responsive to the base as a rule. This is one reason we like more local types of government. They are more responsive to people. That's why a lot of the, you know, the first wave of us turning the tide on WOKE was school board elections, local parents in their local schools. But you had another question. What's that question?

[Caller / Listener]

Yeah, so I'm concerned about. I think everybody is. There was another question just before me, actually, about this. I'm concerned about the direction of where a lot of the podcasters are going. They're basically pivoted 180 degrees to pro Islam and anti Trump, you know, which I don't. I think we all agree that they were sort of not doing that while Charlie was alive and now they're suddenly doing it. And when I was watching the TPUSA event with Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh, Michael has said this, I've heard it several times on his podcast, that he doesn't think it's really a concern about these podcasters because it's really just online. But I think that's naive and ignores that young people are list to this. And, you know, these are people that Charlie fought so hard to get and helped us win the last election. And I also heard Amy Kozak say that he, he went to Amfest and he was really surprised because he ran into some young people who really looked favorably on Nick Fuentes and his type of America first. And he said they were receptive to counterpoints and he was able to sort of try to pivot them back. Basically. I was going to say, I think you guys need to. I think you need to address this more. I know you've probably been trying to stay out of the fray, especially with the candid stuff, but I think this has always been a podcast that, you know, has been trying to at least reach the young people for sure. And I think you need to address that. And I also wondered what you're doing to counter these kinds of malicious messages within the high school and college chapters. Because one of the things Matt Walsh said, which was really a great answer, was, you know, you're right, the Republicans aren't necessarily doing what we want, but when you look at the alternative, the alternative is so much worse. So that was my.

[Blake]

Of course, of course. Danny, you wanted to say something?

[Caller / Listener]

Yeah.

[Danny]

The best way to just go about this is to expose these people for not having principals themselves because you see them flip flop all the time.

[Blake]

They do.

[Danny]

What we've seen with students especially is talking to them, is that they actually. What makes it click with them more than anything else is if you actually show them clips of somebody or writings from somebody that they alternate, what they hate more than anything is hypocrisy. These students.

[Blake]

And they're noticing this more.

[Danny]

Yeah, the example is Fuentes. We have a clip from him a week ago. If we want to throw that up, basically saying that Democrats want us all dead, we can play that. Well, that's the tweet. So we have a tweet from him saying that he's basically gonna vote Democrat, support Democrats. And then literally one week ago, he put out this clip we want to throw to that.

[Blake]

Do we not have that? 24.

[Danny]

It's number 24.

[Anthony]

You know what a lot of these Israel critical, counter Semitic influencers do not

[Blake]

realize is that the left wants to kill us.

[Anthony]

Like, they literally want us dead. And they will work to effectuate that.

[Charlie Kirk]

They want to silence.

[Danny]

Silence us.

[Charlie Kirk]

They want us debank de platformed. And ultimately they would prefer if we all just died.

[Blake]

So that was what, a week ago?

[Danny]

That was April 27th.

[Blake]

Okay, throw the tweet back up then. Then this tweet was yesterday. Yesterday. Throw the tweet that was up a second earlier. And it says the Republicans totally betrayed their voters and broke every single promise. So I'm switching sides and voting Democrat.

[Danny]

So he's voting for the side that

[Blake]

he just punished them, the side that he says wants us dead. And I think. I think you are correct.

[Danny]

So I sent this to a bunch of my friends who follow Fuentes and think he's funny. More of like a meme culture type thing. And even they were like, yeah, I don't really. I can't get along with this guy anymore because more than anything, like, I feel like I'm being lied to when no one has set principles. And you keep changing up all the time and lying just to get clicks. Whatever's the new thing, this was the

[Blake]

thing that gave Charlie a lot of power over time, because Charlie got stronger and stronger the more time went on. And one of the things that helped in the most was how genuine Charlie was at all times. Even though Charlie changed his positions, he was very good at owning his change of positions. And he wasn't a weather vane where he'd switch one week to the next or switch and then switch back. He evolved, and people could recognize that, and it made him. People really like him. But what's happening with a lot of these other influencers like Nick, and they're very talented people. If you watch a Fuente Stream, he's incredibly funny. He's very charismatic.

[Charlie Kirk]

Charismatic.

[Caller / Listener]

They're.

[Blake]

They're very good at holding an audience in the moment, but they are also. They're. They're kind of slaves to getting attention as opposed to values. So they're. They're willing to just say outrageous things because it will get attention. And they're very combative over, like, market share, and so they tend to feud with each other. That's also a very funny thing. So you have Dan Bilzerian, another one of these guys is now saying, Nick Fenton, Nick Fuentes is a fed, whether he is or not. They're always accusing each other of these things and. And feuding. And I think you're correct. That people, they're not idiots, they notice these things. If they're paying attention, you're not gonna reason with them.

[Danny]

Just straight up on facts. The best way to reason, especially with college students these days and high school students, is you have to actually show the hypocrisy to their face. Until you do that, you're basically just wasting your time.

[Charlie Kirk]

And I wanna say one other thing too, and I think I get frustrated with, because there's a lot of ink that's been spilled in the press about whether the gripification or whatever they call it of Turning Point. There's a very important distinction here. So basically, if you break down Fuentes Main 2 kind of driving impulses, that's about the. I guess, what would you call it? The changing demographics of the United States, the loss of the white population or whatever. Right. And then Israel. So one place where I can say that we are firmly not in alignment is on Israel. Right. You know, listen, we have geopolitical differences with the state of Israel, with Bibi Netanyahu, about war, all that stuff. But that doesn't mean that we scapegoat Jewish people and we actually, you know, have. We don't hate them. Right. Jew hate is a scapegoating that is evil and ancient and it's a road to nowhere. It's a road to destruction. Charlie was very much against it, but like two people misunderstand the immigration aspect of that conversation. So somewhere where our students are probably hearing us and heard Charlie is that we want an immigration moratorium. Him in this country. We've had too much. It's too much. And so some of these kids are really sympathetic to that argument because they see the fruits of that after a couple generations and they agree with us on it. But the outside observer might understand that as like, oh, it sounds like groiper language. Well, actually just turns out that we've just had too much immigration and we want that to stop because we're getting transformed. The erasure of American culture. Go ahead, Blake.

[Blake]

I mean, allow me to add before we go, since she asked it at the time, I will die before I start simping for Islam. Oh, yes, Islamification is not acceptable for the West. It is an alien and is a bad. It's a bad religion. It is a false religion and they

[Danny]

want us all dead too.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, I totally disagree with any sort of sympathies for Islam. Yes, you on the micro, you will meet nice Muslim people on the macro. They are here to conquer us. It is completely incompatible with Western civilization. There's A reason they don't, they don't have the same reverence for the state and they worship past the state. They point to Mecca when they pray. There is a reason because their loyalties are not with the state.

[Blake]

There's a reason there are 50 majority Muslim countries and they're not moving to them.

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Danny]

We have Elizabeth.

[Caller / Listener]

Oh, hi, Danny. Hi, Andrew. Hi, Blake. How are you today?

[Charlie Kirk]

Hello.

[Caller / Listener]

Okay, so I thought I would try and do something that I think would be a fun question. Socrates drank the hemlock. Do you agree or disagree with what he did?

[Blake]

All right. Oh, that's a very fun question. We haven't got one like that. All right, first of all, do you guys know what she's talking about?

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes. We should give the. Give the brief.

[Blake]

Okay. All right, we'll explain it for Danny, but for others, that's. It's a great way to do it. So Socrates, of course, famous ancient Greek philosopher, probably he's kind of the first famous philosopher in history.

[Charlie Kirk]

In ancient Athens, Charlie employed the Socratic method.

[Blake]

Yes, the Socratic method. He's the name of the Socratic method, which is the idea of going back and forth, asking questions to find clarity, drill down, find holes in an argument. And they're called that because Plato, a student of Socrates, he wrote these dialogues where Socrates is usually the main character. Plato's Republic, which a lot of you have heard of, that is a very long Socratic dialogue about government. And so people will assert things like, this is how a government should be run. And Socrates is kind of this annoying guy, starts asking questions that pick away at it. And there's many of these dialogues, but. But famously, what happened to Socrates in real life, is he annoyed enough people in Athens with his questions that they put him on trial on charges of impiety. He was asking questions about the gods of the city. They accused him of corrupting the youth with his ideas and possibly other things. They were Greek, and they put him on trial. He defended himself, but notably, an aspect of it that's important is he. He could have probably saved himself if he had apologized or if he'd asked for mercy. But in the story, in the dialogue, Plato's apology, which we think is likely an accurate version roughly, of how he did defend himself, he basically just. He doesn't back down from his positions about what he believes. And when they find him guilty and they are in sentencing phase, he gets to propose what his Penalty should be. And he could have said, I think I should be exiled rather than killed. And instead he memorably proposes I should be given free lunches from the city for life because I helped you all think better. The jury did not take kindly to that. So they were going to sentence him to. Basically he either could be executed or he could drink the hemlock, a poisonous drink and he could kill himself. And I think he even had. I'm going off memory, I think he might have even had an opportunity to escape. But he declines to do this. He thought this would not be morally becoming. He would accept his fate for what he did. Now, obviously as Christians, we, we don't approve of suicide generally, but I think there is generally a place for if it's like that or if you're basically being ordered to do it, forced to do it, and maybe you have to do it to save other people, then there can be some marginal opportunities there. Opportunities, not a good way. But like we're understanding of people who are forced to.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, obviously this is pre Christian and

[Blake]

he's also pre Christian. He is not in a Christian world. Christ had not. He was not in the Jewish context.

[Charlie Kirk]

And by the way, unlike the left, we don't judge historical figures and heroes based on current understandings of moral principles. For example, like we, the left does with Thomas Jefferson and slavery, etc. Etc.

[Blake]

You know, one of the most interesting things about Socrates, by the way, is in his dialogues, he, he speaks about that. He kind of has a voice that speaks to him. I think he calls it his demon. And this is one of the reasons they accused him of heresy. He seemed, he basically claimed he had this private God talking to him all of the time. And it's interesting to think about that because Socratic philosophy, Platonic philosophy had such a huge impact on Christianity. If you read early Christian thinkers in the days of the Roman empire, in the 200s, the 300s, the 400s, a lot of them are channeling Greek philosophy. They actually had this thought was Greek philosophy, was Platonic philosophy sort of enabled by God as a way for us to explain the Trinity, to explain the

[Charlie Kirk]

Incarnation, by the way. And there's, there's a lot of people that believe that Alexander the Great, for example, who united so much of the known world at the time and created all the roads and the systems of roads that that really enabled the spreading of the gospel. It did. So there was a lot of what the Greeks did that enabled the spread of the.

[Blake]

It was written in the New Testament, is written in Greek. Why Was everyone speaking Greek across the near east because of Alexander the Great, because of these Greek peoples? What is the version of the New Testament? That, or the version of the Old Testament that was used in ancient times is still used by the Greek Orthodox Church. When we had that Orthodox priest on, they used the Septuagint, which was translated by a group of 70 rabbis at the command of a Greek ruler in Egypt. And so it's interesting, think about all of those things with Socrates, that there may have been a providential role even in this person who's not in the Bible, who's not a biblical figure, and yet played such a pivotal role over the course of history on Christian thought, on the spread of Christianity around the world.

[Charlie Kirk]

The reason the Romans really admired the Greeks. So it was like the Greeks were the. The apex of philosophical thought and order and those sorts of things. And the Romans always felt like this was a cheap knockoff version of it, at least. And historians tend to. Tend to agree. But. But that's a very interesting aspect of Roman culture, of how much they elevated Greek culture in their own.

[Blake]

Yeah. And so Socrates, I think I would. I would certainly support him standing fast for his principles to the point of death. And we certainly know that Charlie would endorse that as well. Charlie was pro bravery, Charlie was pro thought. Charlie was very pro Socratic method. And so if you want to learn a lot, obviously you want to study the Bible, but another set of ancient texts you can go very far studying. You should read Plato's dialogue.

[Charlie Kirk]

Give him a couple books to read.

[Blake]

Well, the one. The one to start with, the apology is what it's called. It's like apologetics. That's where it comes from. He's giving a defense of himself. This is one of the most authentic Platonic dialogues we think. We think it may actually reflect what Socrates said. Like they possibly wrote it down. The Republic is a famous one. The Symposium. There's a.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is there any good, like Synopsis or modern books that kind of break it all down, make it easier to.

[Blake]

There probably are, although. Come on, let's. Let's tell. Let's challenge people. The apology is not long. You could read it in a not long amount of time. Let's go read some Greek philosophy. Get some Greeks into your.

[Charlie Kirk]

That wraps it up for us today. We'll see you next Monday.