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Yeah, I know that she's a traitor to the country, but she's very nice and really, really pretty. Insight into Eileen Gu, the skier who's American born but competes for China for some really interesting reasons. Also, how much did the Snow White movie that nobody watched actually end up losing? The numbers are in from Disney and unfortunately we have another violent act by a mentally deranged crazy person. We'll get to all that and more. My name is Joe Bob thanks so much for tuning in. The show starts right now. Really fascinating story that I feel like more people need to be paying attention to. And the reason I think that is because one, it's in our national security interest and two, everybody in the media is really, really, really nice to a person who's effectively a traitor to the country. We'll get to that in just a second, but I gotta remind you to email us anytime you want. Tptpusa.com is that email. If your email is grotesque, disgusting, vile, bigoted and downright nasty, it'll actually fit in with the tenor that we have on this show. We usually try to keep those, those attributes very, very high here on this show. Nasty, bigoted, vile. All things that we've been called previously in lefty outlets. So we'd like to keep that tenor going on here. So email us tptvsa.com you can also leave a comment wherever it is that you happen to be watching. And remember, vile, nasty and disgusting actually get you a better chance of being read here on the show in our mailbag segment. TPTP USA.com I am really fascinated to solicit comments and emails for this particular story. We're going to dive deep into Eileen Gu, who is an American, kind of. She represents China in the Winter Olympics and she is all over the place. She won several medals, gold medal in Beijing in 2022 and is back, has currently won a silver. I think has competed in a bunch of other events since the Winter Olympics started in Milan this year. But really, really interesting questions as to how and why. Born and raised in the United States, California specifically, she competes for the Communist Chinese. We'll dig into that right now. Now, first things first, I want to set up, set this up in, in a way that kind of contextualizes what it means to compete for countries that are not technically your own. And I say that because I want to issue some caveats here. I kind of seriously, also kind of jokingly, but more serious than joking, have always wondered what would it be like to compete in an obscure sport as an American, but for another country that I have the eligibility to go compete for. For instance, I can technically compete for American Samoa. If me and producer Tino wanted to really, really get into curling. There's a very, very good chance that we would be able to make it to the Olympics. I could be an Olympian. Now, that being said, there are some massive differences between much smaller countries who really don't compete in the Winter Olympics versus massive company countries like China who have a plethora of athletes that they could choose from, especially someone who's at the top of their game. But we'll get into that in just a quick second. I just want to throw that caveat out there. There are instances where you can compete and it kind of makes sense and it's fun and it doesn't mean that you're, you know, a dual citizen of the country. It's just, yeah, you know, wasn't good enough to make the American curling team. So I went ahead and was the first winter athlete for Western Samoa. That. That would actually be very fun. Now, what I'd like to get into with Eileen Gu here is the trajectory in which she has ascended to the spotlight, but also the forefront of the debate between China and the United States. We're all familiar with the thucidian trap of the ascending world power. Always goes to war with the current world power, and that is China's goal. We'll get to a little bit more of that in the in later on in the show. But to highlight the point, China doesn't need more athletes. They especially don't need athletes who are at the top of the game and could compete for the United States. So the question is, why then is she competing for China and not the U.S. the New York Times, Vice News, Yahoo Sports have all commented on Eileen Gu's upbringing, saying she was raised by by a single mother. Now, her dad allegedly is American, but almost nothing is known about him. Now, the interesting part about the single motherhood is the fact that she lives in and grew up in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in one of the wealthiest cities in the country in San Francisco, the Sea Cliff neighborhood. Specifically, she attended a private prep school, University High School, where the tuition hovers around $73,000 a year and has obviously enjoyed all of the benefits of being brought up in the United States of America, which is, again, peculiar. Going to a very ritzy private high school in living in a very wealthy neighborhood, coming from a single mother, which again has been reported in the New York Times and Vice and many media outlets. Now, I'm not saying that no single mother can attain those heights, but the probability seems fairly low unless that single mother had help from a foreign entity in which the family may or may not have been tied into the ccp, the Chinese Communist Party, and sent to the United States specifically to ingratiate themselves into our culture and then somehow try and bifurcate the American culture in the Chinese culture to help wash clean all of the sins of the Chinese Communist Party. Again, we'll get to more of that in just a second. I'm just throwing out theories here. Now, the single mother, according to the New York Times. Her parents, Eileen Goo's grandparents, according to the New York Times, were very prominent engineers. Her father was a highly decorated chief electrical engineer in Chinese Ministry of Housing and Urban Rural Development, which was noted in his 2014 obituary. Obituary her mother. So Eileen Goo's mother's mother, Eileen Goose grandmother was also a senior engineer for the Structural Reform department of China's Ministry of Transportation. In other words, the single mother who lived in the wealthiest neighborhood and sent her daughter to a $70,000 a year private high school may have had some help because her parents, Eileen Goose grandparents very, very deeply tied, it would appear to the Chinese Communist Party dating back Eileen Eileen Goo's grandparents obviously very tied to the people who have a vested interest in integrating themselves into the United States culture. Her mother allegedly came here to the United States, has a master's degree from Auburn in molecular biology and then an MBA from Stanford, for which I'm sure was required to pay the full tuition. Now, if you don't know this, you're not familiar, you know, out of state students at most schools have to pay a higher tuition than in state schools. Now obviously Stanford is a private university. I'm not exactly sure about Auburn. Regardless, there's different tuitions. Foreign students, on the other hand, pay exorbitantly more than even the out of state students. So considering the fact that her mom was a foreign student, somebody had to pay for those very expensive schools. Stanford specifically. How did that happen? Unless of course, and remember this is all speculation here, but the speculation kind of all lines up. How does that happen? Unless there was some help from the ccp, Eileen Gu's mother, then according to the New York Times, went on to work at Lehman Brothers on Wall street, spent a good amount of her career on Wall Street. And according to one of the Chinese Wikipedia esque type sites, Eileen Gu's mother, Yan Gu states the Wikipedia esque site in China states that in 1993, while at Lehman Brothers on Wall street, uh, Eileen Goo's mother successfully arranged for a $200 million loan to China. Again, could there possibly be some relationship with the ccp? Now, if all any of that is true, that kind of makes sense as to why Eileen Goo grew up in a very ritzy neighborhood and went to a very expensive private school, even though she had a single mother. But the thing is, in 2019, as a skiing prodigy, that was when she made the decision that she was going to compete for China. Now, I want to play you a quick clip of her talking about the idea of being both Chinese and American. And for what it's worth considering, the fact that she's 22 now. In 2019. She was 15 when this interview was done. She was 19 years old. I'm going to give some latitude, some grace to someone who may be thinking about this in a little bit different terms than the geopolitics of it all. This is Eileen Gu in her own words, whenever she's asked, hey, what about this whole dual citizenship thing? This is her answer. Cut six.
Tom Holman
I was little. I've always said I'm Chinese when I'm in China and I'm American when I'm in the US and what I mean by that is I feel as though both countries have contributed equally to creating the person that I am today. And there's no sense of competition. There's no sense of one is better than the other. It really is about appreciating different facets of each one and applying the most relevant and the most. Yeah. The parts I can learn the most from from each culture. And I think that is what has given me the perspective that I have, it's given me the cultural resiliency that I have and it's given me an appreciation for different cultures around the world.
Joe Bob
Now, for a 19 year old, again, it's hard to kind of ascribe any malice to this, but kind of makes sense in the head of a 19 year old. Yeah, well, you know, Chinese culture, some of it's good. American culture, some of it's good. And I kind of take the good parts about that and mesh it together and that's what I am. The problem is all of the backend things that have happened since she made the decision to compete for China instead of the United States of America. Now, remember, like what we said at the top, promised to get back to it. You didn't need to do that. You know, just to put it in context, if I decided to go be one of the, not one of the, the first Samoan curler in the Winter Olympics, one, the country, the, the, the Samoan nation doesn't have that to begin with. And two, I'm not good enough to make it in the United States of America. Also, Samoa does not require, you know, citizenship change. You can compete in a country that your family has heritage to. My dad obviously immigrated here, in case you don't know that whole story. So that's not in play here in this instance For Eileen Gu, 1, she is the best. She can compete for the United States. She doesn't have to go to another country in order to live out her Olympic dream. And two, China does not need her. They have a lot of people that already compete in the Winter Olympics. So two of those differences are, are actually massive when it comes to looking at why someone would do this. But the key component here comes from an accidentally released report from Chinese Beijing Municipal Sports Bureau in 2025. Eileen Gu and Zhu Yi, a fellow American born figure skater who now competes for China, just like Eileen Gu, were Both combined paid $6.6 million by the Chinese Beijing Municipal Sports Bureau in 2025. Dubbed as Striving for excellent results in qualifying for the 2026 Milan Winter Olympics. In all, the two, including Eileen Gu, reportedly paid near $14 million over the last three years. Now, considering the fact that Gu is substantially better in her sport than whoever the other skater is, I honestly don't really know who that is. I would imagine that the bulk of that money went to her instead of the other skater. According to Forbes, Gu is the fourth highest paid female athlete in the world in just a few years. I'm asking a fortune. Net worth? According to Forbes, around $23 million. Only about $100,000 of that actually comes from skiing. So there's possibly the motive. She doesn't need to compete for China because of her athletic ability. She can compete for the United States. China doesn't need her. However, they can throw a bunch of money at her. You know, if only there were some reason to believe that her parents, her mom specifically, could have been tied in with the Chinese Communist. Oh, shoot. There was also that. With China also not allowing dual citizenship, that raises the question, well, did she renounce her American citizenship? Sorry, buried the lead a little bit there. This has been a problem being asked of her throughout the course of her Olympic competitive. Competitiveness, her competitive Olympic career. Are you a Chinese citizen? Chinese rules say that you have to be a Chinese citizen. Also, China does not allow dual citizenship, something that we should do here in the United States of America. So if that's the case, is she being let go from exemption? Is, is she, is there an exemption made specifically for her? Or has she renounced her US citizenship? Which by the way, if she has, we, we can deport her. But that, that's all different. We. I'm not really making that argument right now. That's just a small tidbit. All in all, China has a long history of bolstering itself societally, sociologically or Socially, I guess I could have just said that in many different facets. Look at TikTok. Look at editing American films. Look at stealing US tech. Look at people coming into the country. There's been several instances of Chinese Communist Party spies on our college campuses. And add to that. Eileen Gu is perfect for what China is trying to do. She's good at what she does. She's well spoken. She's very smart if you've ever listened to her talk. She's very, very articulate and intelligent in the way that she is able to speak for herself. And she's also gorgeous. There's also that component. She is the perfect catalyst for China to say, hey, look at how great our society is. Whether or not she knows what she's doing, she is complicit in the attempt to upend the United States as the global superpower. A couple years ago, Charlie Kirk recommended a book to me called the Hundred year marathon. The 100 year marathon, China's secret strategy to replace America as its global superpower. It's by Michael Pillsbury. If you have a chance to read it, you should. It's fascinating and basically to give you the very, very condensed version, it explains how China consistently plays the long game in a world where we have consistent, immediate gratification. I ordered it today and it's at my front porch this afternoon, which is crazy impressive, logistically speaking. But that's just the mindset that we have everything today, today, today, now, now, now, now. China, on the other hand, as a society and as a culture, has a much different perspective to success. They will take decades, centuries to complete their objective, their mission. That's what the Hundred Year Marathon is. And as a part of that, they will look for individuals like Eileen Gu, throw them a ton of money to do something that is entirely unnecessary, which is compete for China, all under the guise of, well, some of the Chinese culture is very, very influential to me, which is what she consistently gets away from. Now, like I mentioned, I give a decent amount of latitude to Eileen Gu herself, not so much to her mom, and definitely none to the ccp, the Chinese Communist Party in China. But at a certain point, Eileen Gu is going to have to make a decision and a distinction on what it is that she's actually doing. She's 22 years old. I would almost guarantee she has another Winter Olympics, maybe even two more Winter Olympics coming up. That would put her at 26 and 30, which is totally reasonable to compete in the Olympics at that point. Progressed on in the. At 25 years old, you should have a decent understanding of what it is that you're doing. She may have that understanding as of right now. What is happening right now is the Chinese Communist Party appears to be using her to enforce its own idea of, well, Chinese society is just as good, if not better. This idea that Western culture not so great. Look at us China. We've got Olympic gold medalists that we pay exorbitant amounts of money. And this isn't the first time that this sort of thing has happened. Remember, the Olympics so often has been reflective of the cultures of the countries that are represented there. Uh, and oftentimes what we've seen is the United States of America has dominated because our culture, culture cultivates some of the best athletes in the world. Is it of course, a one to one scenario? No. But on mass, the United States does fantastically well. Why? Because we have a better society and a better run culture. There's many examples of other countries and other cultures trying to topple the United States to show the world that they are better. One example is the 1936 Olympics in Nazi Germany where Hitler and all of his buddies said, look at how awesome our athletes were. And the Americans came in and just dominated. Why? Because we're a better system. Again, is it a perfect correlation? No. But this is what happens often in the Olympics. Throughout all of the 80s us competing with the Soviet Union who can cultivate better athleticism in their country, Oftentimes it was us. The Olympics in a lot of ways have been reflective of the culture of the countries that they've been represented. Which is exactly why China would want to nitpick somebody who's good enough to compete for the Americans and doesn't have to compete for China because they have enough people there. In all, honest to God, Eileen Goo seems like a perfectly nice person, but whether she knows it or not, she is complicit in the attempt to upend the United States. She's effectively sports washing the atrocities committed by the Chinese Communist Party. And we don't need to necessarily get into all of that over there. The bottom line is the United States of America should not tolerate this sort of thing. If in fact she's renounced her United States citizenship and her allegiance lies with China. I, I don't know what that means. Because yeah, even if you are a naturally born US citizen, if you renounce your citizenship, that opens you up to whether or not that that eliminates the necessity for you to be able to live here. In other words, we, we can, you know, put some immigration forces in effect. But the question then is how are we? How have we treated her here? Hopefully politely. But should we elevate somebody who chooses to compete with our arch enemy against us? Probably not. And yet we still do. Here's a clip from the ESPYs a couple years ago in which I think she won Breakout athlete. This is cut seven.
Tom Holman
And the SB.
Joe Bob
Goes to.
Tom Holman
Eileen Goo.
Joe Bob
Whether she knows it or not. I'll just say it one more time. She's complicit in the attempt to upend the United States as a world power. She's 22, so I give her a lot of grace, a lot of latitude. But at a certain point, her and other athletes who choose to do this sort of thing are going to have to answer for the broader effect that they have on not only sports culture, but society and the way that governance works more broadly between the United States and our adversaries. Tptpsa.com if you'd like to share any of your thoughts about this again, really any part of this I don't know should if she revoked her citizenship because China doesn't allow you to have dual citizenship and you have to be a citizen to compete for China, should we deport her? I don't know. TBT tbsa.com Also too, I'd love to know just from a, just from your email standpoint, at what age are you responsible for all of your decisions regarding like geopolitics? Obviously crime is crime, right? But at 15 years old, like again, I'm willing to give some grace to a 15 year old whose mother may have been tied into the Communist party and been thrown a ton of money. Uh, and she didn't. Maybe she didn't know. I don't know. I'm willing to give some grace. Where is that threshold for you? TPT.COM coming up next, we're gonna get to the point. Lots of things going on around the world, not all of them fantastic. We'll be right back after the break. Don't go away. Foreign.
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She's crazy.
Tom Holman
I'm sorry.
Joe Bob
Tomorrow Girl way like that. Yes.
Tom Holman
I was in shock.
Joe Bob
If I would have known that the punter was going to be like that. Like, I don't know if I would have got no, neither would I. This is the best form of political messaging that you can do. There's no, no statements made, no nothing. It's just two girls. So if you can't read, I I can't even read that. That's really tiny. It's basically saying trying to catch up on the tea with your girlfriend or something like that walking through New York City. And she, she, they, they can't because there's snow everywhere and it's piled high as high as a car and you get to climb over it. Which is obviously reflective of the socialist mayor there in New York City who by the way is putting out a budget I think today that is just massive and insane and like requires taxing people absurd amounts of money, which of course you know, people, people are just willing to be taxed 100% of their income. They won't move or take their business elsewhere. That's That'll never happen. Um, anyways, no, this is, this is the best kind of political messaging that exists. Not really even being on the nose. You're just kind of saying, hey, this is. We're just trying to live our everyday life and oh, look, these are all the problems around me without actually ever saying anything. That's. That's fantastic. Um, all right, it is time. Segment two. Time to get to the point. To the point.
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Get to the point.
Joe Bob
Sometimes I ramble a little bit longer, but also I think it's interesting sometimes I. As long as I'm not repetitive. If I am repetitive, let me know. DBT tbsa my. I would love to work to correct that, but I do think the riffing and the rambling sometimes is poignant and sometimes necessary to cover the all of the different angles of, you know, any particular story. Anyways, wow. Starting this off not on a good note. From the New York Post, transgender father Robert Dorgan ID as the Rhode island hockey shooter who gunned down family. And six posts are revealed. This story that happened yesterday. I. Oh man, there, there are some. I don't want to make light of any of this situation. So that's where this gets kind of rough. My, my mind immediately goes to jokes because this is, I don't know, interestingly enough, I had a joke about a transgender inmate where I basically was saying, you know, you should. Trans surgeries should be taxpayer funded, but they also should be mandatory. So anytime a dude shows up and says I'm a woman, you know, chop chop. And that was, that was the, the joke. But then like the follow up tag was, all right, Robert, time to be Roberta. And interestingly enough, that's what this guy was doing. Robert Dorgan, the 56 year old transgender individual, also known as was going by. I don't know if anybody knew him as Roberta Esposito was identified as the shooter. The whole story is tragic and terrible. I've been through kind of the whole, you know, timeline of it all. The one interesting thing about this that I thought was fascinating was CBS did one of their like online shorts and in it the. They didn't. I want to be fair about this, they didn't outright say this, but it felt really implied. Well, this person was a transgender person and that stoked some sort of controversy in the family. And again, they didn't say it, but it felt implied. Well, therefore this is why they did that. Almost as if, well, this is an acceptable thing to do if you're being ostracized in your own family. For change. Changing your, I'm not even say changing. Altering your appearance in your 50s, obviously deeply mentally disturbed person. And it's very, very sad. But at the same time, the fact that we aren't taking a look at this as a country more seriously, and hopefully we are, hopefully we're making a dent, that this is clearly a severe mental disorder that unfortunately has led to violence in too many circumstances. The fact that we haven't been taking this as seriously as it is is a tragedy. And all of these other tragedies amount to the, to the full tragedy that, you know, people aren't, I don't know, taking any of this stuff seriously. Objective truth is real. Wow, that's, that's a rough one. Let's get, let's see, what do we have next here? Oh, Disney, the numbers are in. Did anybody see. Leave a comment or send us an email. Tptpc.com if anybody saw the Snow White movie. Producer Glenn is shaking his head. He's an avid Disney fan, but did not unfortunately see the movie as did most people. Apparently most people didn't see this movie. The numbers are in. Disney loses $170 million with Woke, Snow White's live action flash flop. Remember that happened last year. Resulting $170 million lost. The film was budgeted at $336 million, reduced to a net expense of 271 after the $64 million government reimbursement that they got from the UK. It's actually really interesting, the financials behind this. Obviously Disney puts up an exorbitant amount of money, but different countries and different municipalities, and this happens here in the United States too, offer these sort of like tax credits or reimbursements for making the film in their area. The UK government, obviously the United States, the United kingdom, taxpayers lost $65 million because of this movie. All of that being said, the film only earned about $100 million for Disney and its theatrical releases, about $205 million worldwide. You know what I think and I, you might let, let me know in the comment section or send us an email. Tbtvsa.com I honest to God think if I played Snow White in this remake, it would have made more money. Mostly because at least Rachel Ziegler, who's the woman who played Snow White, at least that kind of makes sense. It, it doesn't. I mean, obviously there's, you know, she's a crazy person. It didn't fit. She's, I think, Hispanic. She didn't look the part of Snow White. Like all of the thing was bad, but at least it like theoretically could have made sense. So in other words, it was just bad. If I were playing Snow White, that didn't make any sense at all. And If Disney put $300 million into me being Snow White, I would, if I were to remove myself from the actual production, I, I would go see me being Snow White just for the hilarity of it. You know what I'm saying? So like, so I honest to God think if I were playing Snow White, that movie would have made more money. And that's my rationale for thinking that. So next time Disney, you're making a movie, let me be the ridiculous character in it. You know, obviously I'll take the full amount of money that you paid her, which I think was like $20 million. But I can almost guarantee you I, as Snow White would, with, with that production and that marketing behind me, would earn more than $200 million worldwide just because of the pure idiocy of it. All right, California, we've talked about California quite a bit. There's a bill that aims to shield certain information about California's high speed rail project. If you're not hip to this, the very, very brief summary is California is taking taxpayer dollars, putting it in a giant hole and then lighting it on fire and then disguising it as a high speed rail, a bullet train of sorts. But a new bill introduced AB 1608 aims to shield certain information from the public and it's, it's trying to protect the, the project weaknesses. In other words, a ton of the billions of dollars that have effectively been lit and on, lit on fire in the state of California under the guise of building this high speed rail are going to special interests like, oh, hey, well, we have to get this certain environmental approval, this bureaucratic red tape and that costs this amount of money. Oh, by the way, we'll hire like a third party group to come in and do this report. Oh, by the way, my cousin happens to run the third party group that's doing this environmental study. So they, you know, it all kind of just circulates around. It's this big corrupt mumbo jumbo thing. And now California officials who are at the forefront of wasting all that money are trying to keep people from digging in and going, hey, where's all this money going? So there's that gotta speed through these things. This is kind of the whole thing. Getting to the point. I got, I need to get to the point more. But this from Breitbart analysis before Trump, the US Annually Imported migrants, we'll call them immigrants. I'm not sure why Breitbart is using migrants from the most corrupt countries in the world. Before the Trump administration, the US Annually admitted thousands of immigrants from the most corrupt third world countries, including Sudan, who's ranked number one is the most corrupt Somalia, which shocks me. Somalia is currently ranked number two in most corrupts corrupt countries according to Transparency International. That again, I, I can't imagine why that's the case. And following it, it's almost like, it's almost like the conservative script was written right here by Transparency International. Venezuela is number three. So Sudan, Somalia and Venezuela, the most corrupt countries. But you know, under the Biden Harris administration, nearly 1800 visas were issued to nationals from the South Sudan. Somalia almost got two six hundreds and a bunch of Venezuelans were imported during that. So I would imagine that the culture that cultivates the, well, the governance that the people cultivate, those people's ideas come from somewhere and they don't just vanish overnight as they cross the US border. Why we would want people from corrupt countries in our country is beyond me. Um, oh man, I gotta power through this. You know what, actually, okay, so we'll read the headline but we'll talk more about it next segment because we got a bunch of official business clips regarding this. But Hillary Clinton accuses the Trump administration of a cover up over tending of the handling of the Epstein documents. That's from cnn. One of the more wild things being said. We will, we'll talk about that a little bit more. We had that in official business yesterday but we didn't have time because there's too much stuff to get to. So anyways, let's get to official business. TBT tbsa.com this has been get to the point. If you have any points that we should be getting to, let us know TPT tbsa.com or leave a comment wherever it is that you are. Official business up next. We'll be right back after the break.
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Tom Holman
Okay, let's put me under arrest.
Joe Bob
I'm not arresting you now. Hey, now you're under arrest. Let's do this. Okay, we're under arrest for battery. Police officer. Okay, can I put this in front?
Tom Holman
Cuz I have a back issue.
Joe Bob
No, no. You are under. Stop resistance. I have a back issue. Friends with these. I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't. Okay, all right. There's more to that, but we don't need you. Get the picture? What, are you going to arrest me? No, I'm not going to arrest you. Shoves the officer. Now you're in. Okay, but I need to put my. I. I have a condition. I need to put my. No. You just attacked an officer. You're not going to give you your hands in front of your body. Hi. That's all there needs to be said about that. Man. That's. Oh, I would love to. Actually, no, I don't know if I TPT tbsa.com if you have any thoughts about this. What would it be like to live inside the head of a lib for like a day? Would that be like torture? Would it be interesting? Would it be scary? Like, what would it be like to live inside this woman's head? Thankfully, it's not possible because yeah, probably be scary. All right, it is time for the brand new segment that we've loved. We actually really enjoy doing this. It is time for official business. Now if you're new to the show, new to the segment, Official business is where we go around and find legislators and bureaucrats alike and highlight what they say in their official capacity. Henceforth, the name official business. Now, this is official business, especially with the trans thing being at the top priority of many conservatives as a. Hey, obviously this is a problem in sports, but it's becoming a problem more broadly. Maybe we should take a look at it. In complete and total opposition to that is Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal, who has introduced a bill that she dubs the Transgender Bill of Rights. At least I think I. There's so many different things that they talk about, and I don't. I can't ever keep all the names straight, but this is what the bill would do, or at least why she thinks the bill needs to get passed. In official business. Here's Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal introducing what she thinks would be fantastic not only for trans people, but for the United States of America.
Tom Holman
Cut 13 to trans people everywhere. I also want you to know this. Those people are threatened by your strength, by your joy in being fully who you are. Those who fight against trans people are just jealous of the freedom that they have taken to be fully who. Who they are. And so those people just want to destroy that rather than imagine what it would be like to be fully who they are.
Joe Bob
And that is a congresswoman, a sitting U.S. congresswoman. Honestly, she's trying to bait us. Like, if we're being truly honest with you, she's trying to bait us into going, no, why are they not? Like we should dismiss it as it is. Sure. Yes, Congressman Dry. Paul. Uh, I am not happy because I am not trans. And only trans people are happy because they are fully who they are. And anybody who would be against people having men competing women's sports or just having mental disorders in general. Remember, it's still in the dsm, the Diagnostic Statistical Manual, that the gender ideology, gender dysphoria, is still a mental disorder. Even though all of those things exist, even though all that's true, the people that think that it's wrong, they are just jealous of your success. Okay, not gonna take your bait, crazy lady. But there is at least somebody on our side. I mean, there's many people on our side, kind of highlighting the sanity within the world. And one of those people is the beloved Senator Kennedy, who is seen here in official capacity, in official business, questioning one of the Trump administration officials as to some of the funding that is being cut from international aid. What that international aid is. Senator Kennedy will explain. Cut 14. You're getting rid of $5.5 million to lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and intersex advocacy in Uganda, aren't you? Yes, sir. I can't believe we're arguing about this.
Tom Holman
I can't believe we're arguing about this.
Joe Bob
I can't believe we're arguing about it either. Senator, you're telling me that someone's making $5 million to teach intersexual, lesbian, k. Transgender dance classes to the Ugandans? Actually, more importantly, what are those Ugandans gonna do now? Honestly? Maybe, maybe instead of that, maybe we should, you know, said food. Can you imagine if that money was instead went to like, mosquito nets or things that the people in Uganda probably could actually use? Thank goodness, though, somebody is on the side of sanity when it comes to official business. Now, this is also part of official business. I recognize there are several things in the last several days that one, Hillary Clinton, former Secretary of state, former senator, former first lady, which I know she doesn't have any power right now officially, but I think she's still able to be included in official business. Uh, one of the things, several of the things she said have been horrible and disgusting and terrible. Um, but before we play any of those, I do want to highlight this one clip that she had from the Munich security conference in which if you took this and just wrote it down on a piece of paper and read it to a friend, they would have said, well, that's just a conservative right wing extremist. This is Hillary Clinton, who again said some terrible things about President Trump, some awful lies. And we'll play another clip about that in a little bit, but for right now, this seems to make sense. Cut 15.
Tom Holman
I think we need to call it for what it is. Secretary, There is a legitimate reason to have a debate about things like migration. It went too far. It's been disruptive and destabilizing and it needs to be fixed in a humane way with secure borders that don't torture and kill people.
Joe Bob
Now there's right wing extremist Hillary Clinton saying, we need to secure the border. Now, she obviously threw in the, well, apparently we're torturing and killing people. I have been unaware of this. If you, you know where that's happening, send it to Tom Holman. He said himself, wow. Yeah. If that's happening, show us now. Obviously that's her signaling to her side, but they're saying, yeah, no, all the rampant migration, illegal in many cases around the world, specifically in Europe, is upending society. Maybe we should do something about that. So for a brief moment, Hillary Clinton sounded like a normal, sane person, unlike this clip in which she is asked about her husband's engagement with one Jeffrey Epstein. And again, remember, she's said that Trump has betrayed the West. She's said Trump is involved in the COVID up of Epstein stuff. All of that stuff is crazy nonsense. We don't even necessarily need to get into all of that right now. But I do think this clip is fascinating and there's one thing that I do want to highlight about it specifically around the question that the journalist asked. But I'll stop rambling. Play the clips. Cut 12 or 12.
Tom Holman
What was your reaction when you saw some of the material that has been released?
Joe Bob
I'm thinking, for example, of images of.
Tom Holman
Your husband apparently in a hot tub in a swimming pool on Epstein's plane. What was your reaction to that? And do you know the context surrounding some of those images?
Joe Bob
Absolutely.
Tom Holman
And it wasn't a hot tub on a plane. It was one of the stops they made to look at philanthropic and charitable work that my husband has done on saving literally millions of lives around the world. It turned out that was done long before there was any public awareness and certainly any conviction of any crime by Jeffrey Epstein.
Joe Bob
So now the one thing that I want to point out there, first of all, we can all roll our eyes collectively at the. No, no, no, no. They were just doing philanthropic work around the globe and that's all that they were doing. Yeah, nobody buys that. But the one thing that I do want to point out from the journalist there is she offers Hillary Clinton something to immediately deny. She says, oh, there's pictures of Bill Clinton on, in a Jacuzzi on Epstein's plane. Anybody who's ever been on a plane knows that you can't put a Jacuzzi on a plane. That's not a thing that exists. Like planes don't have swimming pools. Yeah, some have showers, but you can't have a Jacuzzi that has a bunch of water that's going to slosh around in turbulence, let alone take off and landing. That's not a feasible thing to have happen. And yet the journalist says, well, there's pictures of him on the plane. Which then allows Hillary Clinton to say, well, first of all, it wasn't on the plane. Meaning that there's already something that is definitely true that she's able to deny. It's a really interesting tactical move to set someone up in that way to give them a way out of something that they are creating clearly not in the right on when you're interviewing them. So that's just interesting. Try to notice that sort of stuff when you're watching these sorts of things. It's kind of like the whole Republicans pounce narrative in many of your mainstream media. Anyways, gotta go. Gotta get to the next segment. Thanks so much for tuning into official business. TBT tbc.com really interesting story about somebody standing up for the Trump administration who we don't usually see do that. Next segment. We'll be right back. Don't go away.
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Joe Bob
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Joe Bob
What mom, did you use the toilet paper?
Tom Holman
Well, just. No, don't get out of your car.
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Joe Bob
I go get her from.
Tom Holman
Who you got? Was it state or city?
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Tom Holman
Does he have a fully marked.
Joe Bob
Yeah, you should probably comply with them.
Tom Holman
I. I don't know. Riley said you should comply, but I think you should stay in your car. Honestly, just why does he want to drive off?
Joe Bob
No, Brie, quit telling her stuff. That's gonna get her arrested.
Tom Holman
Okay, Riley says you're gonna get arrested.
Joe Bob
I love those types of pranks. That wife is obviously pretending to have a phone call with someone with her Cop husband there saying, oh, you know, just drive off. No. Anyway, I want to get to this really quick. This happened last week, and we didn't have a time to get to it. But I do think it's really important. I'm going to play you a clip from Kaitlan Collins of CNN in which she's telling a story about the Trump administration. So Trump and then obviously people in his administration when they were in Saudi Arabia, and then Kaitlan Collins was also there with CNN as a part of the media pool, and. And she tells this story. It's actually really interesting. And I think it makes Trump look pretty good, or at least the administration look pretty good in how they handle adversarial media. This is cut 12, I believe. Oh, no, cut 11.
Tom Holman
When we were in Saudi Arabia and we were on a foreign trip with the president, and he came in with all the other leaders, including the Saudi crown prince. They famously do not like the media there.
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Tom Holman
And to put it lightly. And I asked a shouted question to President Trump, who had seen me when the US Press came in. He didn't answer, which is. I mean, that's how it works. You shout questions, they either answer or they don't. It's their prerogative. And then the world leaders left the room. The Saudi Royal Guard kind of freaked out because I dared to ask a question. And they're not used to that there because they don't have a free press. And so they came up and they said, okay, well, you can't come into the next event, which was like, two minutes later. And I was like, that's not how this works. I go into the US Press, and they were like, well, you're not coming in. And I could see them, like, whispering and pointing about me. And some of the younger White House staff that were. They are with the press weren't really sure what to do. And they went to Caroline, and to her credit, she said, no, Caitlin's coming in with the rest of the U.S. press. And we went in.
Joe Bob
So that's Kaitlan Collins of CNN saying that she shouted the question at the president. The Saudi officials didn't like that because they don't have that sort of thing there. And to. To Caitlin's credit, she gave the Trump administration credit by way of Caroline Levitt, who said, no, no, no, you get to come in. Um, there's so many things that can be highlighted there. We don't have time to get into all of it. Maybe we'll talk about it a little bit later. Um, but, yeah, I don't know. Good, good news coming from someone who doesn't usually like giving the Trump administration a whole lot of credit. We'll be right back after the break. Don't go away.
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Joe Bob
What do we need to do to save democracy? Deport liberal white women? You know, I'm not sure the constitutionality of that, but if it were feasible and SCOTUS approved, that wouldn't be the worst idea. Probably. Again, I'm not sure with within the Constitution that we're able to do that. Anyways, tptpc.com is the email address. I'm going to try and get through some of these as quick as we can. Scott, who is a frequent correspondent, says we need a transgender equals mental health bill and then goes on to say maybe they shouldn't be allowed to purchase firearms. Constitutional that that would be a very interesting question. I tend to be a second Amendment extremist. Not extremist, reasonable. Second, I'm a proponent of the second Amendment, you know, like everybody else is. And that's where I get really uncomfortable with hey, this group of people can't. And I also understand the argument of the whole mental health thing. And then you got red flag. This is very complicated, but I understand what you're saying there. Scott, Christine says this regarding sports. The story that we did about sports yesterday where there's a huge decline in number of women who want to engage in sports at the professional level. Christine says, yes, I agree. If I was a young woman, I wouldn't want to play sports with men either. It's a game. It's not worth permanent damage. Correct. Paul goes on to say, let's see, frequent correspondent Paul too long to read the whole email. Basically says the the way that we save the west is conservatives get out and vote. Yeah, that's a condensing his email. That's that's effectively correct. And then let's see. Last one, Don says this I watched a toddler try to put a square peg in a round hole five seconds after couldn't figure it out. Didn't work. Maybe he should show aoc. Wow, AOC coming in for a kick in right as the show is set to expire there. Very funny. That might have been Raymond. Not sure who sent that email. Got the copy and paste. A little confused. TPTPCA.com is the email address. If you'd like to send along your thoughts, comments, concerns, criticisms. Hey, thank you so much for tuning in. Really appreciate you doing so. We'll be back same time, same place tomorrow. God bless America.
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This episode of “Turning Point Tonight,” hosted by Joe Bob, dives into several current topics through the lens of American values and geopolitics. The show’s central focus is an in-depth analysis of skier Eileen Gu’s decision to compete for China despite her American upbringing, exploring the personal, political, and financial implications of that choice. The episode also covers cultural commentary on recent news stories: a tragic shooting involving a transgender individual, Disney’s financial losses on the new “Snow White” film, California’s controversial high-speed rail project, immigration from countries deemed “corrupt,” and pointed political discussions involving Hillary Clinton, border policies, and international aid.
(02:05 – 24:26)
Introduction to Eileen Gu Controversy
“Yeah, I know that she's a traitor to the country, but she's very nice and really, really pretty.”
— Joe Bob (02:05)
Background & Family Ties
“Her parents... were very prominent engineers… highly decorated chief electrical engineer in Chinese Ministry… very tied to the Chinese Communist Party.”
— Joe Bob (07:00)
Speculation about CCP Involvement
“How does that happen unless there was some help from the CCP?”
— Joe Bob (08:45)
Gu’s Perspective (Clip)
“I've always said I'm Chinese when I'm in China and I'm American when I'm in the US… both countries have contributed equally to creating the person that I am today.”
— Eileen Gu (11:49)
China’s Motives & Financial Incentives
“They can throw a bunch of money at her… All in all, China has a long history of bolstering itself… Look at TikTok. Look at editing American films… Eileen Gu is perfect for what China is trying to do.”
— Joe Bob (13:40)
Politics of Citizenship
“If she has, we can deport her… Should we elevate somebody who chooses to compete with our arch enemy against us? Probably not. And yet we still do.”
— Joe Bob (19:17)
“Sportswashing” and Soft Power
“She’s effectively sports washing the atrocities committed by the Chinese Communist Party.”
— Joe Bob (21:46)
(27:56 – 37:48)
Violent Shooting by Transgender Individual
“The fact that we aren't taking a look at this… is a tragedy. Objective truth is real. Wow, that's, that's a rough one.”
— Joe Bob (28:00)
Disney’s Snow White Box Office Flop
“If I were playing Snow White, that movie would have made more money… just because of the pure idiocy of it.”
— Joe Bob (31:03)
California High-Speed Rail Project
“California is taking taxpayer dollars, putting it in a giant hole, and then lighting it on fire and then disguising it as a high speed rail.”
— Joe Bob (32:29)
Immigration from "Corrupt Countries"
“Why we would want people from corrupt countries in our country is beyond me.”
— Joe Bob (34:31)
(41:52 – 49:30)
Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal’s Transgender Bill of Rights
“Those who fight against trans people are just jealous of the freedom that they have taken…”
— Rep. Pramila Jayapal (41:52) “Not gonna take your bait, crazy lady.”
— Joe Bob (42:26)
Senator Kennedy on Foreign Aid
“I can't believe we're arguing about this.” — Sen. Kennedy (44:09)
Hillary Clinton on Borders and Migration
“It needs to be fixed in a humane way with secure borders that don't torture and kill people.”
— Hillary Clinton (45:44)
Epstein Scandal & Media Handling
“It wasn't a hot tub on a plane… It turned out that was done long before there was any public awareness… of any crime by Jeffrey Epstein.”
— Hillary Clinton (47:28)
(52:44 – 54:29)
“To her credit, she said, no, Caitlin's coming in with the rest of the U.S. press.”
— Kaitlan Collins (53:45)
(56:18 – 57:56)
“‘She’s effectively sports washing the atrocities committed by the Chinese Communist Party.’” — Joe Bob (21:46)
“‘If I were playing Snow White, that movie would have made more money… just because of the pure idiocy of it.’” — Joe Bob (31:03)
“‘I can't believe we're arguing about this.’” — Sen. Kennedy (44:09)
"'It needs to be fixed in a humane way with secure borders that don't torture and kill people.'” — Hillary Clinton (45:44)
“Not gonna take your bait, crazy lady.” — Joe Bob, regarding Rep. Pramila Jayapal (42:26)
This episode of "Turning Point Tonight" provides a deep dive into the intersection of sports, geopolitics, and identity via the Eileen Gu story, argues the significance of cultural narratives at the Olympics, and critiques both domestic and international trends in culture and governance. The show maintains an energetic mix of serious political critique, humor, and audience engagement, with pointed views on issues like immigration, “wokeness,” and U.S.–China relations.
For listeners seeking a detailed breakdown of contemporary political and cultural conflicts—with a heavy side of humor and provocative takes—this episode is a prime example of the Real America’s Voice style.