TURNING POINT TONIGHT, WITH JOBOB, FEBRUARY 20TH, 2026

Summary

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Turning Point Tonight, with Jobob – February 20th, 2026

Episode Summary | Real America's Voice

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode features two in-depth interviews from America Fest: one with Dr. Ben Carson and one with California Assemblyman David Tangipahoa. Both conversations aim to provide honest, unfiltered insight into the cultural and political challenges facing America today—emphasizing free speech, faith, the decline of civil society, and the unique political climate of California.

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Key Segments & Timestamps

• [03:21] – [22:54] Dr. Ben Carson Interview:
  Reflections on faith, revival post-Charlie’s passing, family dynamics, civics literacy, personal transformation, and defending American ideals.

• [26:25] – [64:55] David Tangipahoa Interview:
  Challenges and hope in California, navigating political parties, Newsom’s family connections, housing and environmental policy, and the urgent need for conservative messaging and reform.

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Dr. Ben Carson: On Revival, Family, Civics, and Transformation

Revival After Tragedy & the Role of Faith

• Reflected on the impact of Charlie’s memorial and the resurgence of church attendance.
• Emphasized sustaining engagement:

  “Don’t stand on the sideline, get out in the middle of the stage and take the microphone and talk… The leftists, the Marxists… are not shy. They will always grab the microphone and go to the middle of the stage and shout it from the mountaintops.” —Dr. Ben Carson [05:18]

• Noted the explicit aims of far-left movements:

  “If you read the Marxist literature, they're not shy about what they're trying to do.” —Dr. Ben Carson [05:57]

• Observed that young people—especially men—are returning to faith, and highlighted challenges modern women face balancing career and family.

Family Dynamics and Societal Shifts

• Discussed the erosion of traditional family roles and the impact of delaying marriage/parenthood:

  “Children who are born to older parents tend to have more physical problems.” —Dr. Ben Carson [09:55]

• Praised the irreplaceable value of mothers and lamented the current state of family development.

Personal Transformation Through Faith

• Shared his own history with anger as a teenager and his turning point:

  “When Jesus changes you, he doesn’t do a paint job. He changes you from the inside.” —Dr. Ben Carson [19:04]

• Found daily wisdom from Proverbs—fitting, given his middle name is Solomon—and humor in God’s plan:

  “When did I become very famous? When I divided babies. He’s got a sense of humor.” —Dr. Ben Carson [21:12]

Civics Knowledge and Preparing Future Leaders

• Critiqued civic illiteracy in America, especially regarding how government and Congress operate:

  “When most people come to Washington… they don’t know anything. It’s like trying to drink from a fire hydrant.” —Dr. Ben Carson [16:37]

• Highlighted his “Executive Branch for America” program to equip future government appointees for practical service.

Conviction and Calling

• Expressed ongoing commitment to battling for American culture and values:

  “We’re in a battle, a cultural war, and if we don’t win, we all lose.” —Dr. Ben Carson [14:13] “We got the rest of eternity to relax and enjoy life. We got things to do.” —Dr. Ben Carson [14:55]

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David Tangipahoa: California’s Political Landscape, Systemic Obstacles, and Hope for Change

The Paradox of California

• Loved the geography and resources, but condemned current governance driving people away:

  "It's the greatest place in the world... but we have a government right now that is driving so many people out of this state...which is what gives me hope, though, because that's a people and a policy issue, which means both can be solved." —David Tangipahoa [26:58]

Inside Baseball: CA’s Political System & GOP Chances

• Discussed California’s “top two” primary system:

  “Seven out of ten times a Dem makes it through. That means there's a 30% chance that two Republicans can.” —David Tangipahoa [28:41]

• Advocated using incentives (“carrot rather than stick”) to persuade low-polling Republicans to seek other offices, consolidating the field for a stronger challenge.

Insider’s View: Gavin Newsom, Exclusion, and Sacramento Power

• Described crashing a legislative party and being the first ever Polynesian Assemblyman—yet barred from the AAPI caucus:

  “They told me I'm not the right kind of Polynesian...because I'm a Republican Polynesian, and I am not allowed. Just like our Latino members are not allowed in the Latino caucus.” —David Tangipahoa [33:37]

• Explained the role of Newsom’s staff and advisers, especially Dana Williamson, calling her methods “mob boss” tactics to control the legislative apparatus.
• Candidly acknowledged Newsom’s personal charisma, pragmatism, and the danger of his political acumen:

  “He is Christian Bale in American Psycho. He can fool a lot of people. He says the right things, he looks the right part, then he signs the craziest stuff out there that you could possibly imagine.” —David Tangipahoa [34:56]

Newsom's Family, Trusts, and Power

• Detailed the intricate, influential web connecting the Newsom, Getty, Pelosi, Feinstein, and Brown families, and explained the Getty trust history:

  “William Newsom leaves the judgeship and then becomes the executor of the [Getty] trust...Billy Getty is Gavin Newsom's business partner...All of it is backfilled from the Getty family trust, and all built on big oil.” —David Tangipahoa [43:26]

• Asserted Newsom’s drive is about power, not ideology:

  “I don't think Gavin's a real liberal...I think he's a power hungry individual who understands how to move the vessel to be in charge.” —David Tangipahoa [46:46]

Structural Barriers, Conservative Messaging, and the American Dream

• Observed how Democrats effectively use collectivism, unions, and regulatory mechanisms, while the Republican Party struggles with messaging:

  “I never look at the Democrats or the liberals or those in charge...I blame Republicans and conservatives and those that are the electeds not being able to deliver a message that's actually digestible.” —David Tangipahoa [52:12] “The Republican Party has been the party against. I'm against this, I'm against that...and nobody wants to be on the side that's the grumpy old person who hates everything.” —David Tangipahoa [52:36]

• Explained regulatory capture and corruption, such as how CEQA (California Environmental Quality Act) and government expansion morphed into extortion:

  “When government expands this big, it actually just becomes extortion.” —David Tangipahoa [59:15] “You want to know what's the biggest problem with the Republican Party? You guys have principles. I actually like working with the Democrats because I know if I show up to their event, I give them some money, I get my project done and I go...That is just extortion.” —A Republican donor, quoted by David Tangipahoa [59:15]

Homeownership Crisis & Generational Policy Failure

• Outlined how regulatory overreach, NIMBYism, environmentalists, and decades of missed opportunity led to the housing crisis:

  “We're two to three generations behind sprawl in California, which obviously restricts supply, which means demand goes up, which price goes up.” —Host [56:14]

• Called out Republicans’ mistakes as well as Democratic weaponization of policy.

The Urgency of Grassroots Anger and Demand for Change

• Expressed disbelief that Californians aren’t angrier about high taxes, housing unaffordability, and social crises:

  “We threw tea in a harbor for 2% and a stamp tax...we're at a 50% income tax in California. And I don't know how people aren't angry.” —David Tangipahoa [62:30]

• Reflected on his personal journey from homelessness to the Assembly, calling for “normal” and real reform:

  “This state is the most amazing place in the world and changed my life...And I just, I want normal. I just want normal. And the place just feels so insane.” —David Tangipahoa [62:49]

• Emphasized that broad-based anger elected disruptors like Bernie Sanders (“Mamdani”) and Donald Trump, and warned that unless the system is challenged, the American Dream will remain out of reach for millions.
• Ended with a call for Californians to wake up, identify real sources of state dysfunction, and reclaim California.

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Memorable Quotes

• Dr. Ben Carson:

  “When Jesus changes you, he doesn’t do a paint job. He changes you from the inside.” [19:04]

• David Tangipahoa:

  “We're two to three generations behind sprawl in California, which obviously restricts supply, which means demand goes up, which price goes up.” [56:14]
  “We're at a 50% income tax in California. And I don't know how people aren't angry.” [62:30]

• On Newsom’s Intrigue:

  “He is Christian Bale in American Psycho. He can fool a lot of people. He says the right things, he looks the right part, then he signs the craziest stuff out there that you could possibly imagine.” —David Tangipahoa [34:56]

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Tone & Style

• Upbeat, conversational, and irreverent – but deeply earnest in concern for American values.
• Sharp critiques of political elites, admissions of conservative missteps, and personal stories humanize the political stakes.
• Both guests speak with conviction but stay focused on solutions and hope.

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A must-listen for anyone interested in the future of American society and the complex political forces at play in California and beyond.

Transcript

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And welcome in to Turning Point tonight. We have a fantastic show for you today with interviews that we had at America Fest that we just honestly, frankly, haven't had time to air here on this show. So this evening I'd like to bring you a wonderful conversation I had with Dr. Ben Carson, a man who, no, doesn't need an introduction. You know who Dr. Ben Carson is. You love him. Fantastically smart. But then after that, got a wonderful interview with David Tangipa, who is from California, one of the rising stars in conservatism in the deep blue, godforsaken hellhole of a state. Those interviews start right now.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Okay.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Dr. Ben Carson, thank you so much for joining. Really appreciate you taking the time.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

I'm delighted to be here and I'm delighted that things are going so well.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah, it's, it's. Where's your website? You, your speech at Charlie's feast or Charlie's memorial service, I thought was one of the better ones. How did you kind of prepare for that? And what was it that you were trying to communicate to that large of an audience? 100,000 people there, millions watching online with

[Dr. Ben Carson]

only five minutes, really.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

And that's a challenge in and of itself.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Well, I do what I always do. I ask the Lord to speak through me and he always does. So, you know, when I speak here today, I have a broad outline of what I want to say, but it frequently turns out to be something different.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Really? So you, you just kind of not wing it. You have an outline, but it just, it flows.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

You know, the Lord strikes me in different ways depending on the atmosphere, depending on the audience. But, you know, I wanted people to really think about what good could come out of what happened to Charlie.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

And interestingly enough, there's a revival that's been going on for the last few years. But I think it really caught fire after what happened to Charlie.

[David Tangipahoa]

LJ can you give a test?

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

One of the. Obviously, yeah. The things that everybody noticed is that church parking lots seemed full. People were going back to church. How do we keep that in your opinion? Like, how does it. Because, you know, I'm not gonna call it a fad. Cause it's not a fad, but it's something that, you know, crescendos and then inevitably it starts to fade. Unless we do something. What do you think that is that we can do to kind of maintain that momentum?

[Dr. Ben Carson]

I think we have to do what Charlie was doing. Don't stand on the sideline, get out in the middle of the stage and take the microphone and talk. Because that's what happened, you know, over the last few decades. The leftists, the Marxists, they are not shy. They will always grab the microphone and go to the middle of the stage and shout it from the mountaintops.

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[Dr. Ben Carson]

While we just sit around and kind of complain about that. We have to be as active as they are, because what they're trying to do is indoctrinate our people, particularly our young people. And, you know, if you read the Marxist literature, they're not shy about what they're trying to do.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

No, they say. They say it explicitly.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Exactly.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

We're trying to dissolve the nuclear family and we want to seize the means of production.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Exactly.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

And then we say, hey, they want to dissolve the nuclear family and seize the means of production. There he goes.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Nah, it was interesting when Black Lives Matter first, you know, became prominent. They had all of that on their website. People started seeing it, so they erased it all. But it's pretty amazing. And you know, what Charlie did, which was so important is he made people think. He would say, well, why do you believe that? And what is the basis of your belief system? And people would find that they really couldn't answer that question.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

And maybe begin to reassess the situation.

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[Dr. Ben Carson]

And our young people who've grown up in the midst of all this democratic socialism, quote, they're not seeing good things for their future.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

No.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

And a lot of them are starting to ask questions, are we really going in the right direction? And we see particularly a lot of the young men turning back to faith again. And I think the women will come along too. Right. We have to recognize that they have a difficult situation. Women do. Because now it's, you know, family versus career. And which one do I choose and which one do I give primacy to? I think that will become less of a problem with virtual things happening. You'll be able to go to your virtual 10 o' clock meeting with all your colleagues and then turn around and change the baby's diaper. Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Well, I mean, to kind of tug on that thread, the trajectory of kind of the basis of women livelihood, like the industrial revolution kind of took the economic power out of the household, which it really was. You know, when the Bible says the women are the the CEOs effectively of the household. There's a lot of actual work to be done. That was a full time job.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Absolutely.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

And it kind of seems like, you know, obviously when things got more efficient to manufacture clothes, for example, manufacture food, some of that economic power got taken away. And so you kind of think like in a digital world, women can maybe reclaim some of that and they will be able to.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Men have to be understanding. Most men who go out and work all day long come back home. Then if you take them and say, tell you what, you stay home and do that, they'll be back at work in no time.

[David Tangipahoa]

That's all it takes.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

It's good. It's good.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

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[Dr. Ben Carson]

No, I was just going to say my wife, you know, she has a degree from Yale, she has a degree from Johns Hopkins. She's very talented, very smart. But she felt it was much more important when the boys were growing up that she'd be there for them. And then after they were all grown and gone, she had plenty of time to do other stuff and she did stuff before that. And even while they were growing up, while they would be at school, she was putting together programs for scholarships and all these things. So there's plenty to do.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

There's plenty to do all the time. Yeah. Now, my wife is similar. She's got, she's a therapist by trade, but is at home raising our kids. That's what I want. That's, that's great because you can replace a therapist, you can't replace their mom.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

The way that she sees it, nothing is like the mom and the family. And, you know, our families are not developing like they used to.

[David Tangipahoa]

Yeah.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

People are not getting married or they're getting married very late, which has some consequences too.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Because children who are born to older parents tend to have more physical problems.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

And there's been some recent studies that show particularly older men who follow their children see a larger incidence of their children of mental type issues.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Now, I guess from a medical standpoint, but also from like a, I don't know, energy standpoint, Charlie, always say, have kids sooner than you think. You should have more than you can afford.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Absolutely.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

So that's kind of, that's also probably seems like a pretty tangible, you know, reason why you should do that. Warning. This product contains nicotine.

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[David Tangipahoa]

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[e-mail] Speaking of sitting on a porch and I mean, this is a complimentary way. Why are you doing this? You could be on a beach somewhere kicking up your feet, but you've decided to take your time to come here, do this. You've got a great organization teaching kids about freedom and civics and all that sort of stuff. Why?

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Because. Because we're in a battle, a cultural war, and if we don't win, we all lose. So the way I kind of look at it, against the backdrop of eternity, which is very important to me, the amount of time that we spend here is a flash in the pan, and we should be looking at what is God's will and why has he given us certain talents and why has he put us in certain positions and we got the rest of eternity to relax and enjoy life. We got things to do.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

You got things to do. Now, does everybody in your life agree with that? Is that. Or are there some people, you know, saying, hey, you got to slow down. You're.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Well, I always hear people saying that that's a constant thing. But as long as the Lord gives me the ability to. To get out there and do things, you know, it's important to do. I feel so fortunate to have been born in this country and to have had the opportunities that I had, you know, to be able to see the country from. From the viewpoint of someone who's growing up in dire poverty. Yeah. To the viewpoint of someone who is very well off and can do what they want to do. And there aren't a lot of places in the world like that.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah, yeah. With this, the modern political culture, we see a bunch of people on the media, in the media saying, well, you know, Republicans control the House and the Senate. They can just do anything they want. I mean, really, what that is is a diagnosis of, okay, you don't understand civics. We don't have a super majority in either House or, well, I mean, the Senate specifically. So we need, you know, Democrat buy in. How is that sort of thing kind of guided your pathway in terms of being able to educate kids on fundamentally how civics works and, like, how the government works and how you actually get things done. So, you know, when those arguments are made, it doesn't land at all because they're like, well, no, you need 60 votes in the Senate. We don't have that. So you can't blame one side or the other, even if it's the other side. It's an understanding of how it works.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

When most people come to Washington or to their state capitol as representatives or their staff, they don't know anything. And it's like trying to drink from a fire hydrant. And it takes them a solid year to really get to understand how things work. In the cases of Congress, that's half your term right there, just learning what's going on. So that's why we have the Executive Branch for America program with American Cornerstone.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

And it tells you how the government works, and it has courses, and you can pass those courses and you can actually be certified. And it's free of charge, by the way. And we want people to go there and be ready to go on day one. You know, you probably noticed with the second Trump administration, how fast they took off. That was because during that four years off

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

figuring out how things work, and

[Dr. Ben Carson]

they were ready to go guns blazing.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

It makes a difference. To prepare people for what they're going to be dealing with. And with Executive Branch of America, we have many luminaries, government luminaries, who tell you from their point of view what's going on and how you can be helpful.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

That's awesome. This is kind of not related to any of this, but I'm actually curious about this. This is a discussion I've been having with a bunch of people. Do you think Jesus had a sense of humor?

[Dr. Ben Carson]

I know Jesus had a sense of humor. I mean, all I have to do is look at my own life. I mean, here I was, this angry teenager trying to stab people with knives, and he said, okay, Benjamin, you like knives? I'm going to take that knife and I'm going to replace it with a scapula, and you can save lives. And then, you know, after I almost killed somebody with a knife.

[David Tangipahoa]

Wait, hold.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

I would love to hear that story.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Yeah, I was. I just had such a temper that I didn't think about what I was doing. Somebody made me angry.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

You had a temper?

[Dr. Ben Carson]

I was.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

You were the most.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

I was pathological,

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

really.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

It shows you the look on your face. That's incredible. I see that all the time. Because when Jesus changes you, he doesn't do a paint job. He changes you from the inside. And so I had tried to stab someone And I locked myself in the bathroom. I started contemplating because I had changed from a horrible student to a straight A student by that time. I said, but you'll never realize your dream of becoming a doctor with a temper like that. Your choices will be jail, reform, school, or the grave. And I didn't like any of those choices. So there was a Bible, and I picked it up and opened it to the book of Proverbs, which was written by Solomon, the wisest man who ever lived. And there were all these verses about anger and fools, and they all seemed like they were written about me. And I just poured my heart out to the Lord and I said, you know, I'll never make it unless you change me. And it was during that time that I came to recognize the reason that I was so angry is because I was selfish. It was always about me, Maya. And I. Somebody did this to me. Somebody took my thing. I want this. And I said, if you learn to step outside the center of the circle, let it be about you, let it be about somebody else. It'll take care of the problem. And it did. That was the last day I had an angry outburst.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

That's completely changed.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

But here's what's interesting about that, why I say God has a sense of humor. I read the book of Proverbs from the Book of Proverbs every day. I start every day, every day since that time, written by Solomon. My middle name is Solomon.

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[Dr. Ben Carson]

He knew I was going to have that affinity. And when Solomon became the king, what was the first thing that he did that brought him great acclaim? Two women claimed to be the mother of the same baby. And what did he say?

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Divided babies. Split it in half.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Well, when did I become very famous? When I divided babies. He's got a sense of humor.

[David Tangipahoa]

I. I can't.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

You're one of the most calm, collected individuals, I think, in this, you know, media space. And I think you're. You're famous for that. Like, you know, when, you know, some personalities in this realm, and I'm, you know, familiar with them too, are kind of up and out there, you're the calm, reasoned voice of reason in that. And I. I cannot picture you with a temper. Did that ever translate to your kids? Did you ever have a temper when you were raising your kids? No, never.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

It's very difficult to make me angry. There's probably only one person who can make me angry. That's my wife.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

The person you love the most can maybe make you a little bit angry,

[Dr. Ben Carson]

maybe, but not even. Even she would have a tough time.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

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[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

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Yeah, it was because of what we believed.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

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assemblyman now. Okay, so what other things can I put on your title? Assemblyman Caucus, Minority Leader. No, not yet.

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[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

All right.

[David Tangipahoa]

No, I wish.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

David Taguipa, Assemblyman in California, in the godforsaken hellhole that is California. But it's actually not because I also, I live in California as you do.

[David Tangipahoa]

You.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

It's not really that bad in terms of like the geography, the weather, all this sort of stuff. It's just the damn politics in California. What the hell is going on?

[David Tangipahoa]

It's the greatest place in the world.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

It is.

[David Tangipahoa]

It is the greatest place. It is. If anybody's been to Newport, Corona, yeah, Del Mar, they would never want to leave. You know, and the fact that we have a government right now that is driving so many people out of this state that, I mean, we have the highest mountains, we've got the lowest valleys, we've got all the beaches, we grow all the food, we have all of the natural, natural resources, all of the illegals. And it's yeah. All the illegals, but. And it's too hard to live in the fifth largest economy in the world. And that's because of the people who lead this state right now. Which is what gives me hope, though, because that's a people and a policy issue, which means both can be solved fairly quickly. Just the people of California need to wake up and actually realize it's not Donald Trump, it's Gavin Newsom that's actually destroying our lives.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

I'm gonna, I feel like in order to like, you should, you should lower the microphone a little bit. It's gonna be in your face. And if you ever want to clip that. Yeah, got it. There you go. It looks better. So. Okay, play with me here. You know, I recognize this is an improbable scenario. However, there's a poll that came out yesterday with Sheriff Bianco, Steve Hilton, and then all of the other debs.

[David Tangipahoa]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

the top. And now California, if people don't know, is a top two system. It didn't used to be. It used to be, you know, Republican and Democrat. Whoever wins from their party goes on, you know, through the primary, but the top two. Do you think there is a chance that some of your lower level libs don't bow out? And one, we get a Republican in there, but two, it could possibly be two of them.

[David Tangipahoa]

So we've ran scenarios and right now seven out of 10, 10 times a Dem makes it through.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

That means that's 30% chance.

[David Tangipahoa]

There's a 30% chance that two Republicans can. And we're hearing some rumblings right now that Rob Bonta is also going to jump in. So if we have, if we have really prominent Democrats and then all those lower Dems, I guess.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

And we get somebody who's like a far left socialist that kind of pulls some of that socialist vote as well away from the moderate ish. None of them are moderate. Moderate ish Democrats. You know, you get Eric Swalwell, you get Katie Fang. Fang, you get Katie Porter, you get Rob Bontek, Xavier Becerra, Anthony Villa. Yeah. And then we need, in my opinion, I think we should have two Republicans really pull out that are kind of going to pull about 2 to 3%, 4% away and then just leave Chad and Steve. Chad and Steve right now are the clear front runners. They're. They're both pulling above 10%. If it's me by about the time we get to the first week of March, if those other, those other Republicans aren't pulling above 5%, they really need to Pull out. Because then we can actually have that scenario.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

What kind of power does the state party have to do that? Leverage wise?

[Dr. Ben Carson]

I've got.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Obviously you can ask nicely, but is there any funding mechanism that can allow that to happen? And I realize I might be putting you in a tough spot answering that question, but. Yeah, other than asking nicely, is there any sort of. Can we get, can we convince that this is the better way forward?

[David Tangipahoa]

You know, people like to operate with a carrot more than a stick. And so if there's a better plan that we put in front of them where it's like, hey, we're seeing you at 5%. We have an open position at the lieutenant governorship. Can you run for that? Hey, we see you at 4%. You also fit the bill for, I don't know, Auditor, controller, you know, these are really important positions as well that we can get other people. But in my opinion, I think some of those 5, 4%, 6% polling Republicans, they may make great candidates to join me in the Assembly. They may make great candidates to be a senator.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

And most people don't know the difference between a federal senator and a state senator. So you get the title anyway. So that's great. You can take it and you'll be fine.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

That was a theme on the office. What's her name's husband? Angela. Angela's husband was a. Was a senator. He's a state senator. Calm down. This is not that cool. Have you ever met Gavin?

[David Tangipahoa]

I have met Gavin.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

What do you think of him personally?

[David Tangipahoa]

Well, I'll tell you this. I crashed his party and

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

it's hard

[David Tangipahoa]

for me to be inconspicuous.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah, because you're nine feet tall.

[David Tangipahoa]

I'm a little wide and a little big. So I walk in and it was one of the greatest moments in what I believe happened in Sacramento because I have a new record in Sacramento. I'm the fastest legislator to be kicked off of committees. And so I walk into this party and it's like I'm looking at all of the. My colleagues and it's like the record scratch. Oh, like that scene when you walk through the saloon doors.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

He's here.

[David Tangipahoa]

They walk through the.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Okay, wait, wait. Set the scene. Is this like a Christmas party? What kind of party is this?

[David Tangipahoa]

It's like a.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

His birthday party.

[David Tangipahoa]

No, it's like a legislator, like get together soiree the governor puts on.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

So you could have been there.

[David Tangipahoa]

No, no, no, no, no. You're supposed to be invited to that.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

You're supposed to hold on. The governor has a soiree that he doesn't come. And it's supposed to be a coming together of unity. And he doesn't invite everybody.

[David Tangipahoa]

Well, the governor doesn't invite people. It's his staff. And if you've heard about his staff, his staff are some of the most vitriolic people out there.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Corrupt as hell. Dana Williamson.

[David Tangipahoa]

And that's. She's the one who set that standard.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Interesting.

[David Tangipahoa]

She's. I mean, most people don't even know how it operates. If certain people were hired to represent other organizations with lobbyists and all that, and Dana did not like them. Dana would tell them, you're not getting anything through until you fire that person. And then she'd specifically find somebody that was within their apparatus and then get them appointed to that lobbying position to have direct contact. And that's actually how they control a lot of the apparatus, is. She used to run the place like a. I mean, like a gestapo. She was the mob boss. That was. You either do what I said, say, or you get nothing. And not only do you get nothing, if you don't. If you start participating or helping the other side, we're going to run legislation that actually hurts your business.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Wow.

[David Tangipahoa]

That is exactly how it works.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Well, and I. Yeah, I mean, we can get really into the weeds of, like, the trash contracts in Oakland and all that sort of stuff. That's actually fascinating. But I am curious. You crashed Gavin's party.

[David Tangipahoa]

I. I did.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

That you weren't invited to for some reason.

[David Tangipahoa]

Well, it. Well, I mean, it was.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Was it racism?

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[David Tangipahoa]

Because I'm the first Polynesian.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah, maybe.

[David Tangipahoa]

Wait, but you do know I'm not allowed in the AAPI caucus.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Okay, explain.

[David Tangipahoa]

Because I'm. I'm.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

They.

[David Tangipahoa]

They told me I'm not the right kind of Polynesian. I'm the first ever Polynesian ever elected to the state legislature. But it's because I'm a Republican Polynesian, and I am not allowed. Just like our Latino members are not allowed in the Latino caucus.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

That's wild.

[David Tangipahoa]

Oh, yeah, That's. Do you want to talk about racism? When they said that to me, I was like. Imagine if I said you're not the right kind of black.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

If you're not the right kind of Asian, you're not the right kind of all of this.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

So should we start doing that just to prove a point? I'm just kidding. I'm going to get you in trouble. Okay. You crash, Gavin.

[David Tangipahoa]

They already kicked me off the committees.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

It doesn't matter. There's no committee assignments.

[David Tangipahoa]

Are you on any committees now they reassigned. Okay, I'll say. Share that. So I crashed this party. But I will say this is what makes Governor Newsom so talented is, you know.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

Comes up and he talks to me and he goes, cord, man, you've been a. He's like, you've been a pain in my side the whole time. And I tell him, I'm like, yeah, you know, Senator Grove is like my mama. So. And she's. I mean, she's a force. She's. She's somebody that we're going to be losing this next year. And she's amazing. If anybody has ever met Senator, Senator Shannon Grove, she's the entire reason why child sex trafficking is a felony in California. And we barely did that in 2023 after the Democrats killed it.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

And she just. I worked with her on the public pressure campaign and she forced it through. But it's what makes Governor Newsom so. I don't know. Intoxicated. It's like American Psycho. He is Christian Bale, an American Psycho. He can fool a lot of people. He says the right things, he looks the right part, then he signs the craziest stuff out there that you could possibly imagine. But this is what. He comes up to me and introduces himself. He gives me his number and we have number. He gives me his number. I have texted him and you know, there was a fire in my district. I needed help and he helped. You know, there was. There's a hospital that's shutting down in my district. I reach reached out to him. I set up a lot of organizations that could help us out. Reached out to him and his team and they got back to me. So it's where I can say, you don't get to the governor of the largest state of the richest state in the richest nation in the world and you don't have talent.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

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[David Tangipahoa]

need to be healthy every day to

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

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[David Tangipahoa]

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[e-mail] that's what's so concerning. I mean, I've had a couple run ins with him, but, like, more specifically, I was at a Starbucks in Chino, California. The guy that I was running for governor against, Gavin, this is before he was elected. We'd done a town hall or something the night before, and we were dumping footage to our video editor. And outside, that's Gavin Newsom outside this Starbucks. He walks in. I say, hello. Say, hey, I'm running a guy named Travis's campaign. And he goes, oh, good. Tell him I said, hi. I was like, you're gonna think this is funny. We're actually cutting a hit piece against you right now. He's like, cool. Good luck with that. Gets in line, orders his coffee, and I was like, I wish I hated you more, dude. On a personal level, obviously, the policy goes without, notwithstanding, like, nuts. But that's what makes him scary, is he's kind of a nice guy.

[David Tangipahoa]

Well, he's. It's what I think makes him the scariest, is he's a conservative face, business owner with the far left agenda.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

And why.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

How does that happen?

[David Tangipahoa]

Oh, it's. I don't think he actually believes in it at all. I think he understands where he can concentrate. Power.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

I mean, think about it like this. His family, his entire political career, all of it, is all built off the back of oil.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

No, no, no, no, no. He was growing up on Wonder Bread in the ghetto.

[David Tangipahoa]

That's. That's.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

That's what I heard.

[David Tangipahoa]

Yeah, I know. I remember when I grew up in Section 8 housing, I ended up in this magazine called, you know, Children of the Rich.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

You know, with my Tongan mom and my brothers. Yeah. Waiting in the food lines, you know, it was just so. Such a struggle living in the richest neighborhood for Governor Newsom.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah. It's just tough. Did you know there's no. Or at least I haven't found. There's no actual evidence that he's ever. That he ever played college baseball.

[David Tangipahoa]

No.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Really?

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

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[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Oh.

[David Tangipahoa]

Because I was gonna say, when he came up to me, he knew I played football. And he goes, yeah, I play baseball at, you know, this D3 Santa Clara he went to.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

He went to University of Santa Clara. There's no record that he ever played varsity baseball. Now, there is record that he went to the school to either try out for the team or something. But I. I'm kind of wondering, is this like one of those Varsity Blues scandals? We're like, hey, we'll get your kid in because he plays Baseball. And because he's. He's bragged about his crappy GPA before and his low SAT score.

[David Tangipahoa]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

So how did you get into that school? I was a baseball player. Although no record of him actually playing varsity baseball.

[David Tangipahoa]

But you do know the story of, like, his family. And then, and then, I mean, they stole the Getty family trust after Pat Brown.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Wait a minute. I don't know this. They stole the Getty family trust?

[David Tangipahoa]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

What do you mean?

[David Tangipahoa]

Skull Pat.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

So he know, just to set it up for listeners here. Gavin's dad was an attorney for the Getty family trust. Was the executor of the trust of the trust. What do you mean they stole it?

[David Tangipahoa]

So. Oh, this. And Cal Matters did a story on this.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Okay.

[David Tangipahoa]

And somehow it got buried. But Gavin Newsom is related to the Pelosi family. Yeah, obviously the Newsom tree. He has connections into the Feinstein family, the Brown family, which is Pat Brown and Jerry Brown, the governors and the Getty family. So JP Getty, one of the largest oil moguls in the world. His entire wealth was. They went and put a bunch of oil in Saudi Arabia. Most of Saudi Arabian oil pieces are from the Getty family. We've heard of Getty Images, too.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

The Getty Museum. All the same family. And Pat Brown was a governor of California. William Newsome was a judge. Pat Brown changed executive law on how trusts are executed. JP Getty did not get along with his family. Hated his kids. One of his grandkids was, like, held for ransom in. In Italy. And he wouldn't send them money until they sent him, like, an ear from his grandson. And he just thought his whole family was going to steal.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

What?

[David Tangipahoa]

Yes. Okay.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

I don't want to get off on that tangent. Okay.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

So they change executive law. Pat Brown changes it. William Newsom then reassigns the trust to Billy Getty. Billy is Gavin Newsom's business partner. Then William Newsom leaves the justice judgeship and then becomes the executor of the trust.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

That's how he got into the executorship.

[David Tangipahoa]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Oh, I thought they were like family friends. And that's how.

[David Tangipahoa]

No, they, they. They took the trust away from the other person, reassigned it to a different trustee.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

I don't want to like, oh, so a trust is you. This is where all of your assets. This is a 1.6 billion dollar family trust account, effectively. I mean, obviously, there's obviously assets in that, but that's just in case people.

[David Tangipahoa]

Yeah, it's a billion dollar account, and he changes who becomes the executor. Then that executor assigns William Newsom as the trustee, or as the. As the attorney for that to delegate all of it. Billy Getty is Gavin Newsom's business partner in all of the Plump Jack. So all of the funding that started the Pump Jack initiatives, the Wine Pump

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Jack is Gavin Newsom's wine estates holdings company.

[David Tangipahoa]

Holdings company. Exactly. All of it is backfilled from the Getty family trust, and all built on big oil after Pat Brown and William Newsom stole the trust away from the Getty family.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Wow.

[David Tangipahoa]

It's all in Calmatters.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

I didn't know that that's how that happened. Yeah, I just kind of assumed. Okay, so he's a family attorney, and therefore he's the guy we trust with.

[David Tangipahoa]

There's an article. It's specifically called Keeping it all in the Family by Calmatters. If anybody looks it up, it gives you a family tree. And in the family tree it says, like, artificially adopted by the Gettys is Governor Noosa. Wow. Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

That's fascinating.

[David Tangipahoa]

Oh, it's insane. I didn't know it is the mob.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Okay, so. So then you got the question of. So you know the obvious kind of trope against anybody running for higher political offices. Well, it's just to enrich themselves. Right. Trump has been accused of that a lot, and that's just what happened.

[David Tangipahoa]

President, that has lost net worth.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Right.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Not Joe Biden, though. He was doing it for the right reasons, and his son happened to end up on all these boards anyways. What then is Gavin's motivation? Because he's got all the money in the world. What is it just a power narcissist, ego thing? Is that what it is?

[David Tangipahoa]

Well, again, I think he just comes from that type of family tree. I mean, Nancy Pelosi's family, they've been in politics the whole time. You know, the Brown family. That. That is. I mean, it's. It's kind of how the mob has operated. Yeah. And he's the. He's the prodigal son. Yeah, he is the prodigal son of none of them. I mean, Nancy made it all the way to speak of the House.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Oh, yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

She couldn't make it to President also.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

And also, too, I. I think Nancy's smart. Like, I. I wish conservatives had a Nancy Pelosi in order to, I mean, whip her party into shape.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Like, she.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

They. She got people behind a bill that nobody read and ruined everybody's lives with the Affordable Care Act. We Gotta pass it so we can find out what's in it. Right. We don't have that. Conservatives. Well, up until this point, right now, I mean, it's Trump, but he's the president.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

President.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

He's not in Congress. And so it's difficult to kind of do that sort of stuff. But like I think people, Nancy, suppose he's evil.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Okay, cool. I agree with that. But she's not dumb.

[David Tangipahoa]

No.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Do you think Gavin's dumb?

[David Tangipahoa]

Absolutely not. No. I think there's, I think actually within that apparatus, they're extremely intelligent.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

They.

[David Tangipahoa]

But, but it's fundamentally different between our ideologies as well.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

You know, and this is why I believe. I don't think Gavin's a real liberal. I don't think, I don't think he's a Democrat. I think he's a power hungry individual who understands how to move the vessel to be in charge. Well, think about it. Why would you want to be on the party side, conservatives and Republicans, that our individual foundations are built on individualism and independence. That is extremely hard to get everybody on the same page if we're all a band of individuals. It's why Ronald Reagan is so amazing, because he can get a bunch of individuals to work together for an end goal. The opposite side of the aisle. Liberals, they work in collectivism, they believe in collectivism. So all of their ideology is marching together. And if individuals and Republicans see government as a problem, we don't want to participate, we hate it from the outside. And if on the opposite end, liberals look at government as the solution, then they all want to participate and then build that. So it's very easy to get a bunch of lemmings to jump off the cliff. It is very hard to be a shepherd of a bunch of birds that are all flying in different directions.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

And we've got analogy.

[David Tangipahoa]

Did you come up with that?

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Is that a David original?

[David Tangipahoa]

I do talk about that, yes.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Okay. So sorry, I don't want to cut you off. Yeah, no, but that's, that's just the

[David Tangipahoa]

way that we operate. So it's, it's within our individual foundations and it's why I believe God. Governor Newsom, Nancy Pelosi and a lot of these groups operate on that side of the aisle because it's a lot easier to control, to say, oh, it's so much easier, which is unfortunate.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

What's amazing, conservatives win anything, honestly, given the odds that are stacked against us with the university systems, the media, the entertainment industry, everything. And yet somehow we still win. Somehow. And I'm just I'm curious if you think we're at like, kind of a tipping point in California where it's like, all right, this is, this has gotten too far too much. Maybe it expresses itself in the governor's race. Maybe it's, you know, more local senate, assembly races. Where do you think we're going? Obviously, I know you're going to be optimistic. We're going to win everything. All right.

[David Tangipahoa]

I'm not going to be optimistic.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Okay. No, no, no.

[David Tangipahoa]

I just saw a PPIC poll that showed that the governor was pulling above 50% for the first time in forever, and the legislature was pulling above 50. It was, it was like 53%.

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[David Tangipahoa]

this is the part where again, I never look at the Democrats or the liberals or those in charge and I don't, I don't blame them for winning and doing everything they say said they would do. I blame Republicans and conservatives and those that are the electeds not being able to deliver a message that's actually digestible. Yeah. That can get people motivated to be a part of our side. For a long time the Republican Party has been the party against. I'm against this, I'm against that, I'm against this.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah, we never.

[David Tangipahoa]

And nobody wants to be on the side. That's the grumpy old person who hates everything.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Well, but it's kind of inherent in conservatism, right? Like if you're going to be a progressive, you want things to. They say progress, I say just change. And if conservative, you're trying to conserve something, you don't want the status quo to change because things are pretty good and you don't want it to get worse. And so inherently you can't. You always have to be on defense just from like an ideological, pragmatic, pragmatist standpoint.

[David Tangipahoa]

Yes, but we can't use that to prevent modernization and prevention.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

You're right.

[David Tangipahoa]

And even within conservatism, you know, we were the home builders, we were the ones who founded cities. We did it the right way. So, I mean, then we went from that to do nothing. But when population growth happens, when innovation happens, and you're just saying like, no, we can't do that. And it's like, okay, well now we have sewer Systems from the 1940s. We have a water system right now that was built in 1922 under the state water project and then the Central Valley Water Project that was supposed to. I mean, this is a bunch of conservatives in the early 1920s and 1940s that said we need to build a water system that can sustain 40 million people with only 6 million people in this state. And they did it. And now we're at 40 million people. And we have liberals in this state trying to tear down a bunch of dams to restore the water rivers and everything else when we don't have enough.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

So. Okay, dad, there's so many different tangents we can go on. Are you, are you going anywhere? You got time? So, okay, California hasn't built water storage in 50 years. What the hell? Okay, so, so from your insight into why that is, is it more of like the environmental people trying to like stop all of that sort of stuff. So if you're, if people aren't familiar, California constantly is talking about, we're in a drought, we need to save water. It's been like that, that my entire life. I've never not been in a drought. But also policy wise, we haven't made any new water storage literally in 40 or 50 years. So how do you square those two ideas? And also what is going on there? Is it, is it, is an environmentalists. Is it money? What, what, what's happening?

[David Tangipahoa]

So have you watched like the Marvel movies?

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Not kind of one.

[David Tangipahoa]

So do you know, do you, do you know who Thanos is?

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

I'm aware of Thanos and I'm aware of his whole thing.

[David Tangipahoa]

So I don't refer to environmentalists as environmentalists anymore. They're anti human activists. They believe in just.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

They believe in the Earth is the priority.

[David Tangipahoa]

Earth is all else be dead. If people die and we lose half the population, it actually would be a good thing because then we'd have abundance through human scarcity. That is Thanos's evil ideology when he would snap his fingers and eliminate half of the universe's population because overpopulation was the issue. So the actual entire Premise of all of the Marvel movies under Thanos being the villain is California Democrats is California environmentalists. They have a Thanos ideology.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

So.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Okay, so with that in mind, I mean there's, there's the water storage. There's also. I don't know why, I do know why I've been going down this rabbit hole.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Because

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

my wife and I are fortunate. We own our home and great. A lot of our friends don't. And a lot of our friends are conservatives and they are, you know, church going Christian. They live their life in a correct way, they save money, they do all the things that you're supposed to do and they still can't afford a home. Oh yeah, that concerns me. And it's, I often have the Ellie,

[David Tangipahoa]

you just got to in your area is like, like $1 million.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

It's a lot of money.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[David Tangipahoa]

And the average for like a 1400 square foot home in your area is about 1.1 to $1.4 million.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

It's, it's absurd trying to figure out what, why, how did that happen in, in like the 70s, 80s, even early 90s? Obviously there's a population boom in California because California is awesome geographically speaking. Either have, have two directions to build, either go up or out. Yep. Those are the only two things in the cities nobody wanted to go up because, you know, NIMBYs, which I'm a NIMBY in terms of building more things around my area. I totally understand that. At the same time you had the environmentalists saying you can't go out either. So like until like the mid-90s or something like that, like all of the Inland Empire in Southern California was like, no, this is protected marshland or whatever it is. And so what it feels like maybe, maybe like 80s, I don't know about nights. What it feels like is that we are two to three generations behind sprawl in California, which obviously restricts supply, which means demand goes up, which price goes up. What do you, is there any fixing that or, or, or like what can be done from a governmental policy level to like try and play catch up to this Three generations of we're behind. We just didn't do any of the stuff that we should have done in the time that we were doing it.

[David Tangipahoa]

Well, one of my biggest things is that we have to self reflect and see that Republicans actually caused a lot of these issues.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Reagan, Reagan created sequel, but kind of

[David Tangipahoa]

remember, Reagan created sequel.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

He did, but two years after he was, hey, this is getting abused. This is not how we intended it

[David Tangipahoa]

and did nothing to Fix it.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

All right.

[David Tangipahoa]

And not only that, the same thing is Richard Nixon.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Sorry, explain CEQA really quick.

[David Tangipahoa]

CE is a California Environmental Quality Act.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

We have to do all of these studies to figure out if fish exist. I don't know if there's fossils.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

In the 70s, the smog or pollution in Los Angeles was unbearable.

[David Tangipahoa]

Oh, yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

And so it was kind of necessary. And that's why Reagan was like, hey, as a conservative to. I want, want to conserve, you know, quality of life for people here. We need to put this into place.

[David Tangipahoa]

And this one was more for like extinct animals than that. And then they, they created the, the airboard for a lot of the air policies, which they've done a great job at it. And yes, there were problems, but when it came to ceqa, when they were looking at that outward sprawl, there were endangered species and there were things then what, you know what I would say, like, conservatives kind of create these governmental policies to fix a problem and they do a good job at it. And then the opposite side gets in control and they look at that government on how to weaponize it. And then backfill, just like what you talked about when it comes to the unions, they give to these unions. So those unions actually become a campaign apparatus for them that send all of their, you know, trainings and everything else to do campaign work. So when we're paying for a walk program, the team teachers union is getting, is walking for them for free.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

You know, we're spending $3 a door. They're not spending anything. And they're getting 500 volunteers because they're telling all their teachers to show up.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

So when you're doing a walk campaign, you're trying to get people elected into the, into the state legislature.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

That's what.

[David Tangipahoa]

Just the weaponization on that side where, you know, they'll, they'll take CEQA and then they'll say, okay, you have to work with this consultant to do your environmental replacement view. And then that attorney and the engineer

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

and all of a sudden backfill everybody in your pocket.

[David Tangipahoa]

Exactly. And then you're like, oh, wait, I just got this attorney millions of dollars in CEQA contracts. This attorney better support my campaign. And then I'm going to get this other one. And then they've used CEQA to move that port forward to now. There's so many layers to just building housing, to getting through all of the regulations in California, because really, what regulations? When government expands this big, it actually just becomes extortion. It goes through. And I had a Republican Donor of mine, tell me. He goes, you want to know what's the biggest problem with the Republican Party? You guys have principles. I actually like working with the Democrats because I know if I show up to their event, I give them some money, I get my project done and I go and I look at him and I say, you do understand that that is just extortion. You're paying your 10% protection fee and you're just getting what you want. I tried to serve the people that I get to serve and operate within the law. And he goes, the law? You guys make it up. None of you know what the hell you're doing. So if I just give you money and you leave me alone, what's wrong with that? Wow. A massive donor too. A billionaire.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Wow. That's unbelievable. I mean, it's not surprising, but that's my heart. Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

You know, I'm a little bit still rose colored glasses.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

I was gonna say you're all in this brand new at all this stuff and I thought, not brand new, but you know, like you're still wide eyed trying to think everything can fit me fixed.

[David Tangipahoa]

Yeah. I'm just looking at this and I'm just, you know, there's things that I've seen that I just, I never thought I could imagine, you know, that the fact that we're arguing in California whether child sexual sex trafficking should be a felony or not. You know, I don't understand how we can fix red tape regulations, ceqa. We can protect an owl that nobody knows if it's extinct or not, or if it has a spot on its back or not. But when we look at the kids of California, they don't care whether they could be trafficked on the street at 16 and 17 years old.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

Like that's what we're dealing with. And I just feel like I'm in the Truman show and I'm like, am I normal?

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

How is all of this happening?

[David Tangipahoa]

Like, how did we just get to this point? I would always say, like the founding fathers would, they started, they started the revolution on a 2% tax on an English breakfast drink.

[Dr. Ben Carson]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

And now if you live and you're a high income earner in California, you pay 50 in taxes six months out of the year. You work for the government.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[David Tangipahoa]

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[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Yep.

[David Tangipahoa]

You pay to work for the government.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

That's what happened. Yeah, that's, that's a, that's a question that I think a lot of us are asking, like, hey, we fought a war over 2%. What do we do at band 50?

[David Tangipahoa]

Yeah. We threw tea in a storm to ship through tea in a Harbor for 2% and a stamp tax.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

We're at a 50% income tax in California. And I don't know how people aren't angry.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

I just don't get it. And I'm like, I'm asking for people to just show up and help me out. And sometimes, I mean the way I describe it just, it feels like playing football, but you're just running into everything head first.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[David Tangipahoa]

And you know, I just, this state is the most amazing place in the world and changed my life. I mean, less than a decade ago I was homeless, sleeping on my teammates couch, just trying to make it out and taking care of my family, taking care of my mom. And we grew up in low income housing and now I'm a business owner. I've made it to the state legislature. I'm the youngest elected in the state. And I just, I want normal. I just want normal. And the place just feels so insane. I just don't get how more people aren't just angry. I know people are angry because that's how you get the elections of Mamdani and Trump.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[David Tangipahoa]

That both sides, it didn't matter. Them being, being politically correct, it didn't matter any of that. What mattered was they were angry. They sounded like the general population. They may not agree with either of their ideas, but at least somebody's willing to break it. And I think that's what the people want, is break this damn machine. That doesn't help any of us. Because your friends who can't buy a home, doing all the right things, going to church like their parents did, getting a good, good job, getting married, having kids with no chance at all to buy a home, to buy into the American dream, they should be pissed off. Yeah, they have to be angry. It's the same thing for me and my brothers. Yeah, I do own my home. I bought my own. But I did that because I saw the writing on the wall and was. And I told all my friends when I started my business, you will either buy now or you'll never be able to. Because the people from LA that are moving up, up to the Central Valley and the Bay Area, moving into the Central Valley, these are the lowest home prices they've ever seen. They may be the highest for us, but their average is in the millions. We're at $300,000. Yeah. So now we got to be pissed off. And until the people of California realize who's really the cause, Governor Newsom, the state legislature sitting on our hands, not willing to do the right things, to talk about the right things things and just blaming Donald Trump. The people need to wake up and actually be pissed off and angry and hopefully we see that soon.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

Awesome. David Tangipa, Assemblyman, California thanks man. Appreciate it.

[David Tangipahoa]

Good to see you man.

[Host (possibly Chad Prather)]

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