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Joe Bob
Good evening and welcome to Turning Point tonight. My name is Joe Bob. If building a new addition to a government building is fascism, California is clear full of it. We are revisiting the conversation of whether or not Disney can be redeemed after new filings for their big conglomerate financial mandated reporting. We're gonna talk to chef Andrew Gould, Senator Ron Johnson, Savannah Hernandez, actually a lot. Savannah Hernandez is a little bit later, but Monica Bay's running boy's White House report. Basically what I'm trying to say is we got a jam packed show for you tonight. Turning Point tonight, where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. This is turning point tonight. Tptusa.com is the email address if you'd like to send your thoughts, comments, concerns, even criticisms. We don't mind if people are wrong, especially in our tbtpsa.com also go subscribe to our YouTube channel where you get exclusive content not seen here in real America's voice. Just because there's so much to talk about, so little time and our time is fleeting here, so we're gonna get right to it. I want to bring you Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. Thank you so much for joining. Really appreciate you taking the time for Turning Point tonight.
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Senator Ron Johnson
Thanks for having me on.
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Joe Bob
So, in this newfound transparency movement with the government, obviously regarding the Epstein files, uh, you've been fighting for transparency in a lot of different facets, specifically around Arctic Frost, kind of trying to get all of the information out from what the Biden administration was doing when they were in power to yourself, the Trump, the, the Trump officials, what does that look like going forward? And do you think this, again, newfound fervor for transparency in other facets will move on to all of the things that we'd like to see overall?
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Senator Ron Johnson
But what I can say is Trump's appointees, his secretaries, other people of his that he's nominated and have been confirmed, they are absolutely dedicated to full transparency. The problem we have is you still have deep state partisan actors burrowed in, doing everything they can to sabotage those efforts. And they can sabotage it 16 ways on Sunday. First of all, they just don't cooperate. They probably know where documents are, but they're not telling anybody. I mean, the fact that we found some pretty relevant documents or we didn't find, but they found documents in burn bags, in a skiff that nobody even knew about, that's concern. So I don't know how many documents have been destroyed. My guess is quite a few have. I'd say the good news is, again, Trump's appointees, people like Bobby Kennedy, Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, they want this exposed, they want to get this information out. They want to find these documents, turn them over to Congress, as well as use them in potential criminal prosecutions. So that's good news. But you still got the deep state that looks at any administration as this too shall pass. But the problem we have as Republicans is most of these are partisan leftists. They'll cooperate with, for example, the Biden administration. They don't cooperate very well with the Trump administration.
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Joe Bob
What are the. And feel free to enlighten me, because I actually don't know. Are there any mechanics that can compel folks to do certain things? And are those at the disposal of senators? Is that the administration? How could that work from a compelling standpoint?
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Senator Ron Johnson
Well, as chairman of the permanent subcommittee investigation, I have unilateral subpoena authority, so I can issue subpoenas. I have. It's very difficult to enforce those subpoenas, though. Generally, it's very difficult for us to get those things passed through the Senate to go to court, to have the courts compel the testimony, as opposed to the FBI. They're using the judicial system, and they can use the courts to compel testimony right away from their, from their subpoena. So it's different. We generally use those subpoenas. Nobody really wants a subpoena from Congress. So we kind of use that, that ability to hopefully get more Voluntary cooperation. But the other good news about, for example, destruction of documents. You can destroy paper documents in today's world, though, it's very difficult to destroy all the electronic copies and trail of those things. So what, for example, these agencies need is they need computer scientists, people familiar with forensic analysis and audits. They also need a team of lawyers, which they're having a hard time staffing up because of all the lawfare engaged in by the weaponization of the Biden and Obama administration. It doesn't take a dictator, very many people to hang in the public square before the population kind of falls in line. And that's in effect what the Democrats have done with their lawfare against other lawyers who've been disbarred or blackballed, or, for example, judge troops in Wisconsin. They're trying to destroy the man. It's really sick what Democrats into them.
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Joe Bob
Well, and I guess that kind of leads into the other thing I'm curious about. Just kind of gauging the political culture and the climate, you know, say, you know, pretty damning things were to actually come out with the compliant media. Do you think the populace would actually believe any of it? Do you think it would make much of a difference? And sorry to be cynical here, but that's, you know, my take on the political climate that we're currently in.
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Senator Ron Johnson
Have you seen the Washington Post return their Pulitzer Prize for the Russian collusion hoax? Have you seen them out, people that serve them up, all the false information? So, no, I mean, the legacy of the corporate media, I mean, they're not reformed. They're still committed leftists and pretty much the communication wing of the Democrat Party. The good news is we do have alternate media. We have podcasts like this and other sources. So let's face it, the media is losing the trust of the American people in record numbers, quite honestly. And people are getting their news from. From alternate sources. Now, the problem you have with, with AI, with deepfakes, that kind of stuff, it is becoming very difficult to discern what is true and what is not true. You know, we all have our, our, our biases, you know, confirmation biases, that type of thing. So, you know, we'll readily hop on something that we believe is true, but it may not be. So it's really getting difficult in today's society to figure out, okay, what truly is the truth.
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Joe Bob
Yeah, we hope that the trust in the mainstream media goes faster than we could ever expect. But unfortunately, I'm not entirely sure how quick it actually can go to transition. Not my gender, just the Topic. You've been an outspoken critic of Obamacare for obviously a number of years now. It got passed, so we found out what's in it and what's in it turns out to be terrible. And the Affordable Health Care act is ironically named because it made health care increasingly unaffordable. You've been a staunch critic of it. What, what are the kind of the next steps as we've starting to see the Affordable Care act unravel in front of our eyes and really effectively help no one.
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Senator Ron Johnson
What I've always said this goes back to 2017 where everybody else was saying repeal and replace. Unfortunately we didn't have a good replacement. Yeah, I've always been saying no operative statement should be let's repair the damage done by Obamacare and transition to a system that actually works. The reason I use that, first of all, when you say repair the damage, people go, what damage? Let me show you the ways. And I held a hearing last week assessing the damage done by Obamacare to just the consolidation of these industries, making less competitive, which drives up costs, the harm to disabled children with Medicaid advantage, adults crowding them out of coverage, for example. And then of course just the skyrocketing premiums on the individual market, which they pretty well destroyed. They got rid of high risk pools that could have been modified to take care of people with preexisting conditions. But they forced that small percentage, about 7% of Americans, to bear the full cost of covering people with pre existing conditions. One of the many reasons why premiums are skyrocketing, which they are hiding with the subsidies. So the people on these changes, they only know what their net premium is, which in general is I think overall about 10% of the gross premium. So American taxpayers picking up 90% of the Obamacare premiums. So people are seeing just a fraction of what those things cost. That's why Democrats are digging their heels in and insisting that we continue the enhanced premiums, which just cover that up even more and for more people.
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Joe Bob
You know, obviously the big kind of slogan was repeal and replace repeals. You kind of hit on it a little bit earlier. I, you know, being a free market extremist was why not just repeal? Do you think there is any political will to just repeal or does there have to be something on the back end to effectively replace what's being lost, which is subsidies by the taxpayers?
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Senator Ron Johnson
People do want to see Americans get health coverage, right? They want them to see to get health care. They want people with pre existing conditions to be covered. Now sometimes you can set conditions on that. Like you have to try and maintain insurance coverage. You can't sit there all your life, not have insurance, then come in when you finally get sick. So I mean, you need some protections that way, but you know, that's something you have to provide. I think just politically, but I think morally as well. But there are ways of doing it. And that's why I say you utilize high risk pools. That's where everybody that is insured pays a small percentage in to cover those people in the high risk pools. People can move in and out of those. But again, the overall root cause is the third party payer system. Nobody knows what anything costs. They know what their insurance premiums are or their taxes are. But we've taken all the benefit of a free market system out of healthcare. We've also done the same thing in education. Two areas of our economy that we by and large don't like the results. Yeah, well, no kidding. Because the free market guarantees three things. The best possible quality, the best possible level of customer service, and the best, the lowest possible price and cost. Like it's not perfect, but it does far better than anything controlled by government, which has been a disaster under Obamacare. So it's about returning consumerism into health care. That's things like health savings accounts. You actually could bill reform on Obamacare because Obamacare insurance is literally the catastrophic plans that insurance ought to be. But before Obamacare those things were dirt cheap. Now those premiums are. They're literally selling insurance that really is insurance because people can't even afford to pay for the deductible before they get into the insurance coverage. So again, Obamacare has been a complete disaster. The problem we have is the folks on the other side of the aisle. Democrats are in a complete state of denial. I held my hearing assessing the damage of Obamacare. My ranking member Blumenthal said, where are the millions of people harmed by Obamacare? I don't see any in the hearing room. They went on to say, I don't know anybody harmed by Obamacare. To which I could point your own witness, this mom from Madison is a victim. She lost her employer coverage care in 2016, went to a sewer plan, thousand bucks a month, couldn't afford it. Had to go to Bronze plan, $14,000 deductible. They had health care issues, had to take out an $18,000 home equity line of credit. I mean, their own witness was a victim of Obamacare. And he's sitting there going, I don't know anybody harmed by Obamacare. So they're in a complete state of denial. It's up to us to really point out again the damage done and then focus on those free market reforms really all revolving around consumerism, putting the patient in charge, making the patient demand for price transparency. Don't pass a law. You got to be transparent. No. Make people pay for the first dollar coverages and have insurance be for the catastrophic instances.
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Joe Bob
Wow. That's actually a great explanation of what's going on. I really appreciate, appreciate that. Senator Johnson, I asked this somewhat. I'm actually mostly serious about this, although I recognize it's somewhat of a funny question. The government was shut down for 44 days, 12% of my year. I did not have my beloved government. How can I go about getting a discount, a probated rebate for that period of time where I unfortunately did not have government?
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Senator Ron Johnson
Well, first of all, unless you were traveling by air, did you even notice?
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Joe Bob
I was gonna say I honest to God had no idea.
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Senator Ron Johnson
So you got the same benefit from government when it was shut down versus when it was open. And I love the fact that Linda McMahon, the Secretary of Education, is pointing that out. So did you notice we were shut down? Did you see any impact on education? Of course you didn't. What we hopefully can see if we can start limiting the cost of government. How about maybe reduced deficits, less spending, not more generic children's future to the extent that we are. So, no, I mean, I think that's the, you know, the danger Democrats really had in terms of pushing this shutdown. First of all, they stepped in in terms of Obamacare. They've given us the opportunity to highlight what a miserable failure it's been. But also the impact, because it was the shutdown was run by a Republican president who wanted to minimize the pain. When Democrats shut, you know, are in charge of the administration, they're of course always going to blame Republicans for the shutdown. And so they're going to make it as painful as possible. Yeah, you shut down the things that people actually value, you know, like parks, like, you know, the Trump administration tried to make it as painless as possible. That's why I think most people didn't even, you know, they had no impact from the shutdown until it got to the aircraft controllers and air travel. And then, let's face it, that's when government opened back up.
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Joe Bob
Well, yeah, and that's when Democrats had to capitulate, which is exactly what I think was intended. So as far as my 12% income tax rebate, I'll take that as a Maybe, but it probably not.
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Senator Ron Johnson
We're 30,000 deaths. Sorry, we gotta keep that.
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Joe Bob
Yeah, don't remind me. That just it's, it makes me cry a little bit inside. Senator Ron Johnson, thank you so much for joining. Really appreciate you taking the time.
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Senator Ron Johnson
Thanks for having me on.
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Joe Bob
Thank you. Super interesting talking to Senator Ron Johnson again. I'm holding out hope that I'm going to get my 12% rebate for the government that I did not get for 44 days this year. Not crossing my fingers though. We got a lot to catch you up on of the news of the day. Chef Andrew Gruel joins us. Next segment to discuss whether or not Disney is redeemable which has been an ongoing discussion on this show. Also, California is spending an exorbitant amount of money on a thing that they probably don't need. But I repeat myself because it's California. Tptpusa.com is the email. Also go subscribe to our YouTube channel. Just type in J O B o B across any of the social media platforms. You'll get all of the Turning Point tonight exclusive content specifically on the Internet because we don't fit everything we can on this particular show, even though we'd like to. So we have to go to the Internet. Turning point tonight's YouTube, Rumble, Facebook, Instagram X account, all of those. Find us there. We will be right back after the break with chef Andrew Gruhl. Don't go away.
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Monica Page
Hey, Mrs. Sarah. Look, I'm standing out front of a.m. p.m. Right now and well, you're sweet and all, but I found something more fulfilling, even kind of cheesy. But I like it. Sure, you met some of my dietary needs, but they've just got it all. So farewell, oatmeal, so long, you strange soggy.
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Senator Ron Johnson
Break up with bland breakfast and taste.
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Joe Bob
AM PM's bacon, egg and cheese biscuit made with K tree egg, smoked bacon.
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Senator Ron Johnson
And melty cheese on a buttery biscuit.
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Joe Bob
AM PM two more much good stuff. Welcome back to Turning Point. Tonight we're together. We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. TPTPUSA.com is the email address. If you'd like to send your thoughts, comments, concerns, even criticisms. It's okay to be wrong as long as you send it to our inbox@tbt tpsa.com youm can also comment on any of our social media platforms. Just type in J O B o B. You'll be able to find pretty much all of the Turning Point tonight. YouTube channel, Rumble Channel, Instagram, Facebook, all of the social medias where there is an exclusive clip that we do every single day except for Fridays that airs only there because we don't have enough time to fit in all the things we want to talk about here on Real America's Voice. Joining me now is a fan favorite, a chef, commentator, comedian, a bunch of different things. Chef Andrew Gruel joins us. Thanks so much for taking the time, man.
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Chef Andrew Gruel
It's an honor to be back. Thank you so much.
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Joe Bob
So you and I both, unfortunately and producer Glenn and several people related to this show live behind enemy lines in the deep blue state of California in which there's a lot of interesting things going on to say the least specifically in this regard and particularly the new Capitol annex. Now Chef girl, I know that you know that renovating buildings is fascism, as we've seen with the White House. You know, any renovation at all is fascism. So clearly fascism is going on at the state Capitol. There is a big new annex to that was originally budgeted for $543 million. The current budget puts it closer to around 1.5 billion. And analysts suggest that they, well, they predict it to balloon up to 4 to 5 billion dollars. What do you think about the state of fascist spending in the state capital of California? One, is this new budget increase surprising at all? Two, will all of that money be spent effectively and efficiently? And three, do they need to build a $5 billion addition to the California State Capitol?
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Chef Andrew Gruel
Well, I think before I pontificate on those points, we should lay the foundation here because this was passed during COVID when no one was allowed to even leave their house. But yet the lawmakers got to Sacramento and they pushed this through while no other legislation that was supposed to help US Citizens or prisoners in California was able to push through. They put this low price tag on there because that's what they do, right? That is the algorithm, the modus app, random, the way in which they slip this by the voters. Just like the high speed bullet train and every other project in California, they put a small price tag on there and then they funnel the funds into the general fund and then they say we need another 5 billion to finish this project. So that's how it's culminated to this point today. I should mention as well, you're going to love this. So in California, one of the reasons everyone says how come there's no housing? And you know, Newsom gets mad at everybody when they introduced ceqa, which is the forced Environmental Review. It's the Environmental Quality act, the Review Act, Environmental review, where every single development that Gets built house, whatever it is, has to be reviewed by all these different agencies in California.
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Monica Page
And.
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Chef Andrew Gruel
And that's what layers hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars on so many of these projects. And they're used to slow down the development that was the goal of cea. Well, guess what? This is exempt from cea. So cea. Yeah, Sequa is great when you want to stop all these other bad guys that perhaps aren't donating to your campaign. But when it comes to us building our own empire in this in Sacramento, don't worry about Sikra. This. This reminds me of Diocletian. I don't know if you remember that story in the. The kind of Roman Empire. I think it was 2 or 300 AD, right before the full. The fall of Rome. He built this massive fortress along the coast of what's today Croatia. And then ultimately that was kind of the sign of bad things to come. It was the peak. And then after that, it fell apart. That's what's happening here. He's building his empire from fortifying it with stupidity and all of our tax dollars and not giving us any insight into this project because actually the media has filed public records requests to get all the details on this, and they've rejected them.
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Joe Bob
Yeah, they have NDAs with the contractors basically saying, hey, you cannot talk to the media about this. Which, look, Andrew, if, you know, if I were king of the world, which I'm running for, by the way, I'm running for king of the world, please vote for me 2028.
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Chef Andrew Gruel
I would.
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Joe Bob
The clear and obvious thing is, hey, my good friend Andrew is a contractor and he deserves this contract to build this building. And people would be like, oh, does he have any experience building massive structures? And I would say, well, you don't need to worry about that. By the way, Andrew, you're not allowed to talk to any of the media about this contract because, well, that's just the way that California government works. It's. It's ridiculous on its face to. To your secret comment to people don't know what secret is. Yeah, it is effectively an environmental blockage to everything. Now the libs will say, well, it was passed under Reagan, and yeah, it was. But two years later, he said, holy cow, this is being used in ways that I would never anticipated it. I just wanted to get the smog out of Los Angeles. What are you doing? And that is still the standard to this day, that is stopping people from building stuff. And I'm sure you see it. Do you see the effects of ceqa? In your, you're a city councilman in Huntington Beach, California. Do you see the effects of this in real life on the ground?
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Chef Andrew Gruel
Yep. Yep. And I'll tell you what's really funny. So the conservatives realized, oh well, we're going to use the Democrats bludgeon as our own tool in our toolbox. So actually conservatives started using CEQA to try and block high density affordable housing projects that were being jammed down on cities. So guess what? Suddenly the governor came out and said, all the high density projects in California are exempt from ceqa.
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Joe Bob
Great. Yeah. And I think that was one of the big updates that happened earlier this year. Like, hey, we're making moves on ceqa. And yeah, lo and behold, it doesn't actually benefit anybody except for the contractors that get those big affordable housing subsidies. Enough badgering on California. This has actually been a topic of conversation across many multitudes of weeks here at Turning Point tonight. And it's the discussion of whether or not Disney as an entity is redeemable. Interestingly enough, the 10K filings, which is SEC filings, you gotta, you gotta do that sort of stuff when you're a massive conglomerate. In 2023, in their 10K filings, diversity was mentioned 18 times, inclusion was mentioned 14 times, and equity is mentioned 3 times. In 2022, the year prior, it was mentioned 22 times. Sorry, diversity was mentioned 22 times, inclusion was mentioned 17 times in the latest 10K filings of Disney, 0 mentions of diversity, 0 mentions of inclusion, 0 mentions of equity, 0 mentions of DEI and 0 mentions of inclusion and belonging. In your opinion. I've been kind of on the fence. I can be argued either way. Can Disney be redeemed? Are they turning a corner? Especially with the 250 year anniversary of the country, they're saying, hey, we're going to be super pro America themed. Are they redeemable or is this just a play recognizing the direction of the country and trying to make sure they get that ever valuable dollar.
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Chef Andrew Gruel
They're certainly redeemable. Look, people thought X was never redeemable. Or Twitter at the time. And then Elon Musk came in. They're gonna need new leadership. And I'm not saying we need hyper partisan leadership. I think leadership that just says, hey, let's wash this all out and go back to what Disney was known for, the legacy brand Americana. Right? So let's take all these buzzwords and maybe let's. We won't kill them. We'll put them on a nice farm in upstate New York and we'll forget about it for a while, Disney wizardry. But the question is, is that at 12 o', clock, instead of turning into a pumpkin, do all the Disney minions come out and say, well, we might not be using the words in our reports, but they're still stitched into our DNA. And that's what we need to figure out here is, is the simple washing, or as they like to say, reimagining of this report going to produce change? Or is it strictly a farce or a veneer to say, hey guys, we're good to go?
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Joe Bob
Okay, well, so that's the question. What's your prediction? Where do you think it actually goes? 5 years, 10 years, 15 years down the road?
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Chef Andrew Gruel
I think the latter, unfortunately. I think that once the communists get in there and the Bolsheviks get in there, they are like a disease, a cancer that spreads and you cannot get rid of them because they must decide so quickly. And that's what's happened in our school boards because that's what's happened on local, in local city governments. And now we're looking down on it from above and saying, oh my gosh, how did this happen? But it also happened in corporate America through a lot of these entry level positions. The unionization of this thought process and you can't get rid of it now. So yeah, maybe you can do a little cut, copy and paste on your end of the year report, but it's there. So I'm going to take the bearish approach on this and say we're screwed.
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Joe Bob
You, you are in line with many of the guests. I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's my sunny, optimistic view of the world, but I like, I really want Disney to come around and be the Disney of the 90s that had all of these really influential movies that they made. But unfortunately I seem to be the minority in that case, thinking that there's a possibility as a glimmer of hope. I also very much see your side of the argument that yeah, once the communists get in, they ruin everything and so you got to tear it down to the studs. So there's, so there's that Chef gruel. Any last thoughts?
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Chef Andrew Gruel
No. I'll just tell you what. You want a really good turkey recipe for Thanksgiving? Buy yourself a tri tip roast.
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Joe Bob
I was just, I meant to, I have it in my notes to ask you about Thanksgiving because I felt like, well, I got a chef on, I might as well. Okay. Are you anti turkey? I took a ton of flack for going on unnamed cable news show and Saying, hey, turkey's overrated. It was because they were super plentiful in the region where Thanksgiving started. But guess what, we have beef now, so let's eat that instead.
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Chef Andrew Gruel
Yeah, see, I agree with you. I don't think that turkey's horrible, but I think the traditional way in which it's cooked is horrible. If you're gonna cook a turkey, do the leg meat, braise it, separate the breast meat, brine that, do a nice hard rub on there and treat them as two separate items. And then you can get a nice kind of mole style braised turkey leg, dark meat braised in there. You can do something fun with the breast. But if you're doing just that cliched center of the table, big old round bird, just go ahead and have a roast.
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Joe Bob
I was going to say, sounds like tri tip to me. Is the, the appropriate, the only appropriate option for a self loving American patriot? Anything else is, is it is being a traitor to this nation? I don't actually think that, but that's, I'm not going to put those words in your mouth, but I appreciate the Thanksgiving recommendation. Thanksgiving next week. So get, go out and get yourself a nice and hearty tri tip instead. Chef Gruel, thank you so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time.
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Chef Andrew Gruel
Thanks for having me. It's always fun.
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Joe Bob
Thank you. Tbtbsa.com is the email also go subscribe to our YouTube channel. We will be right back after the break to discuss slowness, which is a term that I'm uncomfortable saying, but that's what the second lady of the United States is called and among many other things. After the break, don't go away. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. To tbtpsa.com is the email. If you'd like to send along your thoughts, comments, concerns, even criticisms, it's okay to be wrong. Just send it to our inbox tbtpsa.com youm could also go leave a comment or subscribe to our TurningPoint Tonight YouTube channel. Just type in J O B O B. Pretty much any social media platform. You'll be able to find all of the content, especially that that is exclusive to our online audience because we just don't have enough time to talk about everything that needs to be talked about here in real America's Voice. But what we do have time for, thankfully, is checking in with Turning Points White House correspondent Monica Page. Monica, how you doing? First of all, sadly didn't make it into the dinner as you mentioned last night, but I do want to ask you a couple of questions about that first. Thanks for joining us. Appreciate you being here.
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Monica Page
Thanks so much for having me, Joe Bob. Yeah, I didn't get into the dinner, unfortunately. I knew that if I did, I'd probably be a bit of a menace because Cristiano Ronaldo was there. And, I mean, I've never watched him play soccer, but I do enjoy watching him in general.
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Joe Bob
Wow. Okay, that's. That's great.
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Monica Page
So.
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Joe Bob
So before we get into that, FLOTUS and Slotis, which I'm uncomfortable with the name Slotus, it's kind of an odd thing to say, but are out and about supporting the movement. What have they got on the docket today before we talk about Cristiano Ronaldo?
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Monica Page
Well, that's exactly right, Joe Bob. I mean, it's. It's kind of rare to see the first lady and the second lady travel together to do, you know, these kinds of trips. But this was a trip that was meant to kind of honor the military troops and families as well as we head into the holiday season, especially, you know, we kick off the holiday season next week with Thanksgiving, and then we've got Christmas New Year. So she took the time with the second lady to visit these kids and visit those families. They were specifically at Camp Lejeune and the Marine Corps Air Station in New River, North Carolina. They were both extremely excited to be there. You can tell by the looks on both of their faces. And honestly, they were greeted with a huge round of applause when they stepped into the gym on that campus. Extremely warm welcome, loud applause. Everyone was pretty excited to see them. And they honored the marine Corps for 250 years of service, expressing gratitude, like I just mentioned, to the Marines, those military families, and wanted to highlight specifically the essential role that these families do play in supporting our armed forces. And then we did see some clips circulating online of the first lady, Melania and, of course, Usha Vance, sitting in on student presentations. These kind of remarks involving the evolution of technology, knowing that the first lady is super passionate about technology and artificial intelligence. So they put on this presentation for both of them. And we did also see Melania interacting with some of those young kids in preschool and kindergarten classes. Really, really cute stuff. So it's a nice act of, you know, just. Just to show that we respect our military, we respect the families, and they deserve, you know, the highest regard, especially during the holiday season.
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Joe Bob
Totally, totally. It's great to see again, FLOTUS and Slotis, even though I'm uncomfortable saying that out there doing, doing what they can to honor our troops. So an entire transition. Cristiano Ronaldo. Now, I couch this in the context that a bunch of the libs are saying the international community hates us. This is terrible. Cristiano Ronaldo among many of the international community that were at the dinner last night, and I specifically bring him up because he is all over the White House's social media accounts and also posted a picture of himself and I believe his wife, fiance, girlfriend, not entirely sure what their relationship is with the President on his own Instagram account, which has like 660 something million followers. What is kind of the, I guess the, the sense that the White House is getting of like what the international community actually thinks as opposed to the libs saying, everybody, we, everybody around the world hates us. This is all terrible. Clearly not with, in this, at least in this particular case.
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Monica Page
You know, it's kind of funny to see the dynamic, especially when you see these big name celebrities, soccer stars or just sports stars, and just in general, music stars, actors, coming to the White House specifically to see the President of the United States and honor all the hard work that he's been doing. It's interesting to see kind of how the reporters and just the mood on the ground of how, oh, you know, we didn't really expect these people to be here. What did you expect them to be taking to social media and posting other black square or posting, you know, some other identity politics against President Trump. So it takes a sense of bravery for somebody like Cristiano and his significant other to be at the White House, to be in the Oval Office, to take a tour of the White House. It really shows something that maybe there is a shift changing in our culture. I don't know if it's has already started. I don't know if it's already been there specifically with him, Cristiano, but to see people like him coming out and showing support. We just saw music artist Nicki Minaj as well at the United nations with Ambassador Mike Waltz really taking a big leap of, I don't know, leap of faith when it comes to her fan base and especially his fan base, Cristiano's fan base as well. You know, it takes a sense of bravery to thank the President of the United States when you have a whole section of, you know, the world of your fan base of the country that really hates President Trump. So, you know, you really have to, you know, take see what's happening at the White House and be like, wow, you know, something is changing. And hopefully these People can influence these younger generations, change some minds, change some hearts. But it's really exciting to see people, especially, you know, once. You just don't expect to be so involved in what's going on in our culture today.
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Joe Bob
Well, I thought it was really interesting too, because he again posted a picture of him and Trump on his Instagram account. And I clicked into the comments expecting to see. How dare you. Scrolled through continuously all positive comments. I did come across one that had the vomit emojis and lo and behold, freaking Andy Cohen is the only negative comment I saw on that. Of just of all people, it's like, all right, Andy, sick dude. Cool. Thanks. But really, really interesting to see how much positive reaction there was to, again, an international superstar, to say the least, in Cristiano Ronaldo. Monica Page, turning points, White House correspondent. Thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciated the chat.
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Monica Page
Thanks, you guys.
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Joe Bob
Thank you. A lot of great discussion today with Senator Johnson, Andrew Gruel, and also obviously Monica Page, who is fantastic at what she does. We're going to get into some spicy videos. Spicy, interesting video content. Well, you're just going to want to see and you're not going to want to miss. Tptpsa.com is the email address. Also, subscribe to our YouTube channel, which is growing by leaps and bounds. And you don't want to be the only person in your friend group that doesn't subscribe and therefore doesn't get the final segment of the show that does. Just, it's just there's too much to talk about so we can't fit it in here. We gotta post it on the Internet. Turning Point, tonight's YouTube channel. Also, Rumble X, Facebook, Instagram, all the social media accounts, just type in J O B o B. You'll be able to find all of it. We will be right back after the break with too much Leslie Jones to handle. Don't go away. I'm sick of men telling me, oh.
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Senator Ron Johnson
Wait, you know, you, you hardcore type.
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Joe Bob
Yes, I am. I am. Can you handle it? Oh, well, what you bringing to the table? I am the table. I don't understand why you wouldn't want.
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Senator Ron Johnson
A woman like me. I am successful.
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Joe Bob
I am rich.
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Senator Ron Johnson
I can fight.
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Joe Bob
Okay, um, that's an old clip circulating around the Internet now of comedian Leslie Jones. And I probably should have used air quotes around comedian, but it's amazing that lib women can't find a decent man nowadays. I wonder, wonder why that is. Okay, Leslie, thank you. Actually, more important things to get to, which I think are interesting and Topical and must be talked about. California is effectively planning to. I know we've hit California quite a bit already on today's show. Uh, but guess what? They're gonna come in for another kicking for this ridiculous ballot measure that Californians are trying to get on the November 2026 ballot, which effectively is a penalty for being rich. Uh, there is a ballot measure that could be put on the ballot in 2026 that says, hey, we are going to tax billionaires a one time 5% tax on their net worth. In other words, hey, we are going to steal some of the money from you. That is your net worth. Now, there's so many different caveats here, so many reasons why this is very, very stupid. But at the, at the forefront of it is this idea that people have their net worth in cash. I'm not entirely sure if the people, the proponents of this ballot measure know this, but Mark Zuckerberg is worth however many billion dollars actually it lists it in here, $251 billion. His net worth is. He doesn't have $251 billion in cash. But what this would effectively do is say, hey, you gotta pay $12.5 billion in tax just this year. By the way, this is just in 2026. If the ballot measure passes in the state of California, he will be obligated to pay 5% of his net worth, which I guarantee you he does not have in cash to the state. But it's just going to be a one time thing. And it's just for the ultra rich. Of course. That is what they're going to say. Mission creep is a thing. As we discussed with Chef Gruel earlier. Well, the building is only going to cost half a billion dollars. Oh no, it turned into $5 billion. But we're only going to tax this one time fee for the billionaires. Also, we're going to do it the following year and it's now going to be to 100 millionaires. And the following year we're also going to do the same thing. It's just going to be millionaires that are going to have to. It's just millionaires, which, if you own a property in California, chances are you are a millionaire by default. So are you gonna have to pay 5% of that which you don't have in cash? It's strictly held in assets. Probably speaking. You're probably. You, you, you probably will. Nobody believes that this is going to be a one time thing. I understand it. People are like, stick it to the rich. But where do you think this goes from here, do you think, possibly in a legislative body that is California, where there have been numerous times where they go out, we're just going to do it to these people, and now all of a sudden they do it to Social Security, by the way, is perfect example of something that was only going to specifically benefit the bottom 10%. And lo and behold, now it dominates the entirety of the population. That's going to happen in California. I feel like I just wanted to put that on your radar. If it happens in California, California will continue its tradition of being a laboratory of democracy, which other states can point to to go to. Don't be that. That's probably a bad thing to be in an entirely different transition. But I thought this was actually interesting, especially considering the media coverage on both sides of the spectrum here. Pope Leo didn't really give an interview. He just kind of was walking and was asked a question about immigration in which he said, well, a lot of things which I'll play you the very brief minute long clip of him talking. But interestingly enough, both sides have said yes, Pope Leo is on our side. Which side is actually correct? We'll talk about it after this clip, please. I believe it's cut.
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Monica Page
Five US Bishops have made a very strong statement about the deportation and detention of migrants. What do you think of it? And they kind of said that he. That you've got their back. Have you? Were you behind that?
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Unknown Narrator/Announcer
Well, I've made some statements about that already. I, I appreciate very much what the bishops have said. I think it's a very important statement. I would invite especially all Catholics, but people of goodwill to listen carefully to what they said. I think we have to look for ways of treating people humanely, treating people with the dignity that they have. If people are in the United States illegally, there are ways to treat that. There are courts, there's a system of justice. I think there are a lot of problems in the system. No one has said that the United States should have open borders. I think every country has a right to determine who and how and when people enter. But when people are living good lives and many of them for 10, 15, 20 years, to treat them in a way that is extremely disrespectful, to say the least. And there's been some violence, unfortunately. I think that the bishops have been very clear in what they said. And I think that I would just invite all people in the United States to listen to them. Thank you.
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Joe Bob
Oh, he's good. And you look, this is not like I support the Pope. I love the Pope. I hate the Pope. This is not any of that. That was a very politician esque response in which he didn't really say much definitively, which is kind of the point because the libs are saying, look, Pope Leo says that, well, you have to be able to treat people with dignity and respect. You watch it back. He actually didn't say that. He said, you know, you have to have a system, which if people are here illegally, there's gotta be some amount of dignity. Which is why you should listen to what the cardinal said. He didn't actually make a definitive statement there. But what he did say definitively is that every country has the obligation, has the right to decide who enters their country, why they enter the country and when they enter the country, who. Which I think is the conservative argument, obviously. So when you have people take what he said and start playing to play both sides of it, you gotta figure out which side is right when it comes to the humanity of deportations. He mentions, well, there's court systems, there's legal justification, and all of that needs to be sorted out, which is correct. I don't know how the libs looked at that and went, look, Pope Leo is standing up for our side, which says anybody in the country gets to say, anybody can come in the country. And we don't care about any of the illegal criminals in the country. We don't want to enforce the law because that's clearly not what he said. And again, I recognize that he's giving somewhat of a politician answer, but what he. The only thing he definitively says outside of, yeah, you know, go listen to the bishops, he doesn't say, take their advice wholeheartedly. He says, just, you know, hear them out. Which is totally fine. Which, by the way, I don't want to bury the lead here. Some bishops came out, made some strong statements. Pope Leo's basically saying, yeah, go ahead and listen to them if you want, come to your own conclusions. But what he definitively said is that countries have the right to enforce border policy. Nobody thinks that there should be an open borders. And even though both sides are claiming a win here, I think it's a win on the conservative side of the aisle, especially when you have cases like this. This one was floating around the Internet that I thought was really interesting. Glenn, go ahead and pull up graphic 1. This is a photo of a tweet of some guy named Eric Lee. I'm not gonna lie, I have no idea who this guy is. Eric Lee, Atty. I sounds like an attorney. Great. Uh, he says this is Roman in pronounceable name. I'm not even gonna attempt it. He's lived here since he was five. Tomorrow he'll be taken from his US Citizenship, citizen, wife and two young daughters deported to Ukraine where he'll be conscripted into the army. Please share this CNN article Now the tears might be flowing for some of the bleeding heart libs out there who think this is very, very terrible. And I can hold some sympathy for his wife and two daughters that that is a tough situation to handle. But what CNN didn't point out is what our friends at Libs of TikTok pointed out. According to them, this guy has also had a long criminal history, including assault with a deadly weapon, multiple counts of burg, counts of carjacking, carjacking with a firearm, trespassing on private property, multiple counts of taking a vehicle without the owner's consent, possession of hypodermic needle slash syringe and receiving stolen property, multiple counts of conspiracy to commit a crime. Interesting how they didn't point that out in the very sob story piece there they had on cnn. And that attorney, a guy who I'd never heard of, also retweeted, but for some reason, conveniently, all that stuff seems to get left out. Now again, like I said, I probably with Pope Leo can hold some sympathy for his family. That's a very tough situation and very difficult to make the case for somebody who has this long of a rap sheet. No, no, they should totally stay in the country. That that's a totally fine. We shouldn't even look into it any further. What is being done on the immigration front seems to be very incoherent with the law, with the system, with the courts, with all of the appropriate steps that need to be taken to get criminal illegals out of the country. Yes, they're going to be sob stories and it is up to the American people to recognize that there are nuance to many of these conversations, specifically around many of these individuals and eventually the rule of law will win the day. We can all hope. Coming up next here on Turning Point tonight, we got a really interesting clip from a math teacher in California as well as Joy Reid. I I It is not often that I agree with Joy Reed, but she said something that is just plainly true. What did she say? Coming up next after the break. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. TPTPUSA.com is the email address if you'd like to send your thoughts, comments, concerns, even criticisms I know. I welcome the criticisms. Go ahead. Tptpusa.com youm should also go subscribe to our YouTube channel where we do an extra segment of the show each and every day because we can't fit everything we want to talk about into this confined period of time we have together here in real America's Voice. So go to turning point tonight on YouTube, Rumble, Facebook, Instagram, X, all of the social media platforms, you'll be able to find that Internet exclusive clip that you're not going to want to miss. Speaking of the Internet, the Internet never disappoints. And by that I don't mean necessarily in a positive way. It's somewhat concerning what goes on on the Internet, but I don't need to tell you. You obviously know that. But one of the things floating around on said Internet today is this clip from a California math teacher, which is concerning to say the least. Now, just some context. This is a. An influencer math teacher that has made a name for they themself because they them is dating a he him who is a she her, which just watch this clip. We'll discuss. Does everybody agree with the gender they were assigned? Some of us, maybe. Some of us might go, yeah, that's definitely me. But some of us might be looking at that paper and going, I'm not a boy, I'm not a girl. And that's exactly how trans people feel. This week is trans visibility week. What does it mean to be visible? Yes. To be seen. Whether or not you agree with transness, trans people do exist. Might not seem every day. You might not even realize it's a trans person at all. That because they're regular people living regular lives. Do you have to be trans? No. No one is forcing you to be trans. I'm not forcing you to be trans. Do you have to love trans people? But no, you don't have to. Okay, well, I'll go ahead and tell you right there. Yeah, you don't have to accept and be tolerant of people who are lying to themselves and the world. Producer Glenn's rolling his eyes. We cannot post this on YouTube, so it'll only be seen here in America's Voice, despite my urge to have you go to the YouTube channel. But trans day visit. It is trans visibility week. Trust me, dude, we see them. Believe me. I spot an Adam's apple from a mile away and go, that. There's one of them over there walking over there. See it? I'm not blind. I. They're visible. Believe me. This guy also climbed to Internet Fame because like I said, he him is dating a he him who's a he her or she her. And that's gay. That's. Sorry, that's just. We're already thrown off a YouTube. Might as well trigger everybody else. That's how that goes. And I'm not gonna spoil anything for you. But yes, that is. That is a topic of conversation that will come up later on in Turning Point tonight episodes. But interestingly enough, someone else who agrees with that sentiment is one Joy Reid, former talk show host. Now, I don't even know what she's. She's just kind of in her garage or extra bedroom talking to people. But even a broken DEI hire or clock. Sorry. Is right twice a day. Joy Reid said something along the trans lines, which is unbelievably agreeable. Watch this. I would be disturbed. I'm telling you, I would be alarmed. I'm alarmed enough when I see a woman with her dangling boobies. Yeah, if I saw a penis in the ladies rocket room, I would freak out too. This is just, I mean, this is nothing against trans anybody. What it's saying is if I turn around and I see a pee pee, a penis in front of me inside of the room, I would probably go to management and say, wait a minute, why is there somebody, a naked man in this room? Because just the world we live in. Just from a safety standpoint and just from a, you know, from a privacy standpoint, I would. So I can see why she would have gone and reported to management, there's a man naked in the bed. Amen. Joy Reid, email us TPT tbosa.com I want you to go outside your house right now or go to a window, check and see if pigs are flying. Or, or if, you know, you'd like to perform a seance, let me know if hell has frozen over or any of the other things that would need to happen for me to say amen to something that Joy Reid said. But yeah, if you're in, if you're a woman in a woman's locker room and you see a dingle dong hanging around there, that's gonna disturb you. And I know she said, I'm not talking about trans people, but yeah, that is exactly what she's doing. Anyways, that's gonna do it for us here at Turning Point tonight. Really appreciate tuning in. We'll see you same time, Same place tomorrow. TPT tbsa.com is the email address. If you would like to confirm or deny whether hell is frozen over or pigs are flying, shoot us an email there. See you tomorrow. Same time, same place. God bless America. This is an iHeart podcast.