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Mam Danny is getting himself a pay raise. Mom Doni is set to receive a sizable bump in salary to be the mayor of New York City. Interesting how the socialists always end up doing very, very well financially. We're going to talk to someone from Ireland, a western country at the risk of losing western civilization in that country, which unfortunately seems to parallel what we have to fight against here in the United States as well. Also, a weightlifter who was a dude ended up doing the south park meme, but there is a sil lining here. It seems like people are coming to their senses around that issue a lot to get to all that more coming up on this episode of Turning Point Tonight. My name is Joe Bob. Thanks so much for tuning in. Together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. This is Turning Point Tonight. Before we get started, I want to express our deepest condolences and send thoughts and prayers to the two National Guardsmen who were shot today in Washington, DC. We continue to say to no end that there is no place for violence in our political circle, in our political discussion, in any aspect of politics here in the United States of America. We hope more than anything it comes to an end as soon as possible. We hope that even our friends on the lib side of the aisle get together with us in saying no more to political violence. I can't believe we need to reiterate and stress it as much as we have to in the modern day, but such is the modern times. We need to continue to speak out against political violence against anywhere it happens and we hope that our lib friends join us in that sentiment. TPTBSA.com is the email address. If you'd like to send along your thoughts, comments, concerns, even criticisms, those are welcome to in our inbox. Tptposa.com also go subscribe to our YouTube channel where which is growing by leaps and bounds by the way. YouTube Turning Point Tonight Honestly, the hack is on social media. Just type in jobob. Job is admittedly a weird name, but it is somewhat advantageous when you're trying to find a our social media content. On social media. If you don't want to type in Turning Point tonight just Jo B oh be you'll be able to find us on Facebook, social or Instagram x YouTube all of the social media platforms. You'll be able to find all of the Turning Point Tonight social media material. It is Thanksgiving not today. Tomorrow is Thanksgiving and we hope you have a wonderful and fun filled Thanksgiving with your family. Even though who you may those who you may politically disagree with because conservatives generally have more lib friends than libs have conservative friends or family. Uh, so that being said, I wanted to bring you upfront here a piece from Monica Page, Turning Points White House correspondent about President Trump pardoning some turkeys yesterday. And it's a little bit silly, a little bit sweet, but we also have some really interesting and hard hitting follow up to turkeys on Thanksgiving. Watch this from Turning Points White House correspondent Monica Page and we will discuss as well as bring to light some of the key issues in this country regarding turkey on Thanksgiving. Featuring JD Vance. Watch this.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
I just want to tell you this very important you are hereby unconditionally pardoned.
Monica Page
President Trump and first lady Melania Trump take part in the 78th annual National Turkey Pardon here at the White House in the Rose Garden.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
These are two of the largest turkeys ever presented to an American president, over 50 pounds each. That's the largest we've ever had.
Monica Page
This year's turkeys, named Gobble and Waddle are from North Carolina and selected from the National Turkey Federation to receive the presidential pardon.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
Today we continue a time honored American tradition. Boy, that's a well trained turkey.
Monica Page
But where exactly did this tradition begin? Although some key details leave many doubtful about its authenticity, some say say the turkey pardon could possibly date back to Abraham Lincoln's time in the 1860s. But before the pardoning tradition began, turkeys were actually seen as a symbol of joy and well wishes in the early 1900s and were often given as gifts touched with patriotism and partisanship. As a matter of fact, First Lady Grace Coolidge accepted a turkey from a Vermont Girl scout troop in 1925. But when it comes to turkey pardoning, some historians believe Harry Truman was the first to do so. Despite critics dispute it comes from Truman being the first president to receive a turkey from the Poultry and Egg National Board and the National Turkey Federation, which jump started the government's encouragement of poultryless Thursdays. In December 1948, Truman accepted two turkeys and said they would come in handy for Christmas dinner, which isn't much of a presidential pardon at all. But although Presidents Kennedy and Reagan, along with first ladies Thelma Nixon and Rosalynn Carter pardoned thanks turkeys by sending them to local farms and zoos, the modern turkey pardon did not become an annual tradition until George H.W. bush's administration in 1989.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
Let me assure you, and this fine Tom Turkey that he will not end.
Turning Point Tonight Host
Up on anyone's dinner table. Not this guy.
Monica Page
And it has been an annual tradition ever since.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
Tomorrow, 45 million turkeys will make the ultimate sacrifice for America's feast. But not this one. And so now I have a task, and that is to grant a full presidential pardon to May and Flour. Today, I'm taking an action fully within my legal authority, the same kind of action taken by Democrats and Republican presidents before me to spare the lives of two turkeys Mac and cheese. Even though peas and carrots have received a presidential pardon, I have warned them that House Democrats are likely to issue them both subpoenas. Based on your temperament and commitment to being productive members of society, I hereby pardon Peach and Blossom. On behalf of the the first lady and the entire Trump family, I want to wish all Americans a very, very happy Thanksgiving. It's a great time of the year and our country is doing really well.
Monica Page
Have a wonderful Thanksgiving. From the White House. For Frontlines with Turning Point, I'm Monica Page.
Turning Point Tonight Host
Monica always does such a great job at putting together all of the different things. This is probably bad of me, but I'm curious if you had this reaction to tptp USA.com when you see Obama on the screen. Oh, when you when I saw Biden on that just, oh, oh, that makes me so mad. He also Biden, like, I don't know. I'll have to ask Monica Page. Somebody reminded me to ask Monica Page on Monday when we talked to her again if she specifically picked out the slurriest Biden as a super peach and blossom or whatever the turkey's names were. I don't know if that's just me and I don't know if that's a bad impulse to have, but just, oh, bomb. Well, you made everything more expensive for me in regards to healthcare and my premiums. And oh, Biden, you let in 20 million people into the country that shouldn't be here. That's I again, I don't know if that's healthy or not. Let me know TPT tbsa.com if you had that same kind of visceral reaction to those two men being on stage. Now, I did think this was funny because somebody posted this very briefly. You're going to see the turkey pardon again. And then a and then a definitely fake, but also, how fake is it really? Headline from Fox News that I think is funny. I just thought this was funny overall. So watch this with me as we continue our Thanksgiving coverage.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
Are you ready, Gobble? I just want to tell you this very important, you are hereby unconditionally pardoned. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. There you go.
Turning Point Tonight Host
Also breaking tonight, a judge is now blocking President Trump. Now a federal judge is saying that Trump exceeded his authority with that order. I just, I, I watched that, it like in real, hopefully like you for the first time on the Internet. And it's the Fox News breaking news thing. A federal judge has blocked President Trump's pardon of a turkey. And I know we kid about it, but this is actually a serious thing that continues to happen. President Trump can't really do anything because a federal judge appointed by Obama probably or Biden has blocked the president from doing a thing that the president probably should have been able to do. Um, I think as Trump would say, yeah, it's fine, the courts will work itself out. But I just thought that was super funny and I don't know, it didn't really need much explanation. You know, it does need explanation. I have taken a significant amount of heat for my thoughts and my stances on turkey and Thanksgiving. I am an anti turkey activist. Chef Gruel, by the way, Andrew Gruel, the very, very funny and friend of the show guest that we had I believe earlier this week, probably even late night last week, said, if you want a good turkey for Thanksgiving, grab yourself a tri tip. Now I took a ton of flack even though he was agreeing with me for saying that turkey's not awesome. I guess in theory, if you like really work to do dark meat, deep fry it, make it juicy. It's, it is good. It can be good. But in most cases, people roasting a turkey just ends up being dry. I am willing to Hear your feedback. TPTP USA.com but before you send it, ask yourself, do you disagree with the Vice President of the United States? Because JD Vance freaking is on my team on this. Tptbusa.com if you have harsh and hard thoughts about turkeys and their, their taste on Thanksgiving, but also know that you are disagreeing with the, with not only me, but the Vice President, United States. Watch this. That is a uniquely American thing. That's why, for example, we have, you know, turkey. Think about turkey. Who really likes, be honest with yourselves. Who really likes turkey. You're all full of everybody who raised your hands. I know. Think about it. And here's, here's how I know that every single one of you who raised your hand is lying to me. How many times do you roast an 18 pound turkey? Just randomly, just, you know, a nice summer afternoon. We're gonna go get an 18 pound turkey. Nobody does it because turkey doesn't actually taste that good.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
But on Thanksgiving, on the most American.
Turning Point Tonight Host
Holiday, I got a, I got a fan over here.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
On the most American holiday, we're gonna.
Turning Point Tonight Host
Cook a turkey, by God, because that's what Americans do. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. I'm, I've never felt so seen and so heard than by the Vice President of the United States agreeing with me that turkey is fine. There's nothing wrong with turkey. It's just if you're gonna have a big meal, a celebratory meal with family, friends, the people that you love the most, maybe get some good food. Would it kill you to do a brisket or a tri tip? I just, I, I, I feel so good about myself and my decisions in life overall that the Vice president agrees with me. But if you disagree, feel free to send your emails. TBTPUSA.com would love to see those going into the Thanksgiving break. We're going to talk to someone from Ireland later on in the show about the defense of the west that is necessary in Ireland. We're also going to talk about Ma' am Danny, the incoming mayor of New York City, interestingly enough, possibly getting a big old pay raise because the socialists always end up rich for some reason or another. What else? Ooh, the weightlifting competition over the weekend in Arlington, Texas, in which there is actually a silver lining. A glimmer of hope here. Some people are charting towards sanity that ultimately is good news in the context of a bad story. All that more coming up on this episode of Turning Point tonight. Thanks so much for sticking with us tuning in this Thanksgiving eve. We'll be right back after the break. Don't go away.
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Right and the NYPD continues to profile LGBTQ people. Specifically trans and gender non conforming people. They continue to harass them, abuse them and kill them. We need to do things that directly impact transgender non conforming women of color. Like decriminalized sex work. People need to know that that kind of thing is happening and we need to be pushing for it. So there's a lot more work to be done, right? We and it's inextricably tied to the larger uprisings that are happening in our country right now.
Turning Point Tonight Host
It's always funny to me when libs do the meme. Like being an overweight short haired lesbian and then calling for more biracial indigenous trans women of color. That's just like it's just what we make fun of you for doing when you do it. I don't know if you're like doing the meme. It's become so hard to satirize these folks The Babylon B, I think has the most difficult job on the planet trying to freaking make fun of people who are making fun of themselves. But anyways, that is Deborah Lori Lore. Lol Lolly Lalai, who is a clinical instructor at Harvard's LGBTQ Advocacy Climate Clinic as a part of Harvard Law School and is a member of Zohran Mamdani's transition team. Uh, she is the community safety pick and she says the NYPD harass, abuse and kill trans people is also pushing to decriminalize sex. Sex work. Okay, cool. So that's that. That is that person and what they them believes. And again, libs doing the meme. Speaking of Mam Danny, I thought this was really interesting. Ma' Am Danny is trying to or is potentially going to get a 16% pay increase. How is it that the socialists always end up making so much stinking money? The incoming socialist mayor. This is from the New York Post. Zohran Mamdani. I don't know, that sounded kind of Asian. Y Mom Danny. Yeah, that's not how it is. It's Mam Danny or Mamdani. I like saying Mam Danny. I told Charlie the the last appearance that he had on this show, I said Ma' Am Danny. He's like, is that how you pronounce it? I'm like, yeah, you know, twisted a little bit of a way to make it. Make it a fun pronunciation. But Ma' Am Danny is what I've landed on. He campaigned for affordability for working class New Yorkers. And he's going to be facing a relatively awkward decision. Councilwoman Nantasha Williams introduced a bill to give NYC elected officials a pay raise. The bill is co sponsored by 32 council members in New York City, several of which are Mam Danny allies. The bill is set to land on Ma' am Danny's desk January 1st when he takes his rightful throne as the king dictator of New York City as the mayor, which is going to put him in an uncomfortable and relatively awkward position of having to decide whether or not to sign the bill and give the political class a pay increase or not sign the bill. Which therefore makes the political class angry at him for not giving him not giving them a pay increase. One former council member was quoted saying, how does the mayor elect justify it saying working class men can't afford women or sorry, the the decriminalizing sex work got me a Freudian slip in there saying working class men can't afford milk. He can't sign off on giving them a $20,000 pay raise. That would be a very difficult thing to justify. Now, their justification is, well, the council hasn't received a pay increase in nearly a decade. They are operating on 2016 wages. Okay, well, what are those 2016 wages that you need bumped up? Well, it's $148,000 a year. You at home, let us know, tptbusa.com, would you be happy with $148,000 a year, or would you start clamoring for more money? I, personally, I'd be happy with that. That seems like a justifiable pay rate, especially for somebody who does as little work as a freaking New York City Council member probably does. This bill would bump that up from 148,000 to $172,000. 16% pay increase. The mayor's Sally Zohran Mamdani would increase from $258,000, which, by the way, that, that is so much money. That is a quarter of a million dollars per year. And yeah, New York is expensive, but they also get to live in the mayor's mansion or whatever they have in the city. So all of that's just profit. I wonder how much of that he's going to donate to these socialist causes in New York City. Probably none of, because the socialists always tend to get rich and don't ever end up paying the taxes that they are. Proponents of. Bernie Sanders famously said, well, I'm not gonna, not gonna voluntarily give up my money. Okay, you're just gonna try and pass laws to get other people to give up theirs. Good, great. Sounds good. Uh, anyways, this would increase the mayor's salary from $258,000 to $300,000 for the working class rich kid socialist, which, by the way, is the prerequisite to being a socialist. You have to be a rich kid first. Uh, the total budget for the council members would swell from $7.5 million to 8.8 million freaking dollars. That doesn't even include their staff or any other per diem nonsense that they, they get. Uh, so that one's gonna be interesting. It's so interesting and fascinating how these socialists always end up getting rich. Just to belabor this point a little bit more, uh, Bernie Sanders is one of those socialist people. When he entered politics in 1981 as the mayor of Burlington, his net worth was about $0. Nowadays, the socialist fighting for the equity of everyone. Everyone should have the same amount of money. His current net worth had grown to between 3 and $10 million, which is a lot. That's a lot of money. Primarily coming from the $4.7 million he's gotten in book royalties between 20092018 and his three homes, one in Burlington, one in Washington D.C. and his $575,000 Vermont lake house. Cool socialists continue to get rich. Nancy Pelosi also comes to mind. Her entry into Congress 1987. Her household was about three to five million dollars which is not nothing. That's actually pretty good in 1987 but somehow has ballooned in her life in public service. It is ballooned sue somewhere between a quarter of a billion dollars. 278 million. Somewhere in between. In between there. But it's because her husband is so good at investments. That's, that's all it is. Elizabeth Warren also authored the 2% wealth tax proposition pre Senate. She was somewhere between 4 and 7 million dollars. She was teaching at Harvard. She'd wrote written a couple books. Current net worth somewhere between eight and twelve million dollars including a bunch of real estate houses. Massachusetts home that she purchased in 1995 now worth four half million dollars. Also book royalties. Ilhan Omar had a negative net worth. Now she's somewhere between 6 and 30 million. But again because her husband is so good at investments. That's, that's the only reason that socialist is doing her thing in that way. Rashida Talib entered the Michigan house in 2009 was worth around $88,000. Now is somewhere around a million. Because again public servant socialists somehow end up making more money than me and you because they're just that good at public service. Ridiculous. Coming up, we're going to talk to someone from Ireland interestingly enough, about the the fall of the west and what we need to do to stop it. Yes, we are America first here but also at the same time we want to keep our eyes on western countries that are unfortunately falling to non western values. So that's coming up next. TPT tbsa.com is the email address. Are you shocked that ma' am Danny is set to give himself a pay raise? Tptpc.com Let us know in the email address at the email address if you think that's shocking or par for the course. We'll be right back after the break. Don't go away.
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Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. TPTP USA.com is the email address. If you'd like to send us along your thoughts, comments, concerns, even criticisms. Believe it or not, we accept criticisms. It doesn't matter if you're wrong. You can send your emails to tptbusa.com also go subscribe to our YouTube channel, which is growing by leaps and bounds. And you don't want to be the last person in your family, especially around the Thanksgiving table tomorrow when people are talking, hey, did you see that one last point episode from Turning Point tonight? You're like, I don't even know what you're talking about. Only watching real America's Voice. That's great. But we do an extra segment of this show each and every day that only airs on our social media platform. So go to YouTube, Rumble, Facebook, X, Instagram, all of the social media platforms. Honestly, Shortcut, just type in jo B o B. You'll be able to find us there, as well as some, some of the more spicy social media content that we've put out recently that is doing very, very well of the Instagram and Facebook platforms. Okay, speaking of spicy, we've all seen what's going on really broadly throughout Europe. Specifically, we zoomed in on the UK I'd like to take us to Ireland where Lisha de Bruyne joins us. She is. Okay, you're not called an attorney in, in Ireland. What is the proper term? That is, that's kind of similar.
Lisha De Bruyne
I'm a barrister at law.
Turning Point Tonight Host
Barrister.
Lisha De Bruyne
So I have rights of audience in court.
Turning Point Tonight Host
Gotcha. Okay. So that's, that's the equivalent for us here in the United States as an attorney or a lawyer. So, Lisha, I would love to open up the floor to you to kind of broadly guide our viewers through what the heck is going on in Ireland. We did a little bit of a story a while back of the, the turning trajectory of the populations throughout your country. But opening up the floor to you. What, what should the rest of the world be concerned about but also knowledgeable of?
Lisha De Bruyne
I personally feel that Ireland is in many ways being used as sort of petri dish because if policy and law can be better in Ireland, it's a PR win for these laws, even if they're not very popular with the people themselves. And so, for example, even though we had a referenda that were voted on often in a landslide victory, like, for example, with limited access to controlled access to abortion or gay marriage rights, they did pass. Since then, my concern is the slew of radical progressive policy and law that has been pushed onto the people top down by successive governments and really at the best of international agenda, whether that's the eu, the un, who, wef. And it's very concerning because quite often these policies and laws are really at odds with the values of ordinary Irish people. And really there's a disconnect between what we care about most, what families care about most, and what is being pushed on to them onto the population without consensus or consents or mandate. And two very good examples would be trans ideology. We have brought in radical self ID, self gender self ID laws in Ireland since 2015. They weren't voted on, they weren't even debated on properly. Nobody stopped to ask how this would impact the 51%, the rights of women and girls, which were immediately eroded overnight. Obviously, you've done some amazing work here in this country whereby there has been a real pushback under the Trump administration. But in Ireland, unfortunately, that ideology has really bedded down. It's captured most of our health service, our Department of Health or hsc, the Department of Education, and of course the DOJ within education. Children in Ireland are being indoctrinated into gender ideology. Parents are not allowed to remove their children from class because it's brought into mandatory RSE SBHE classes. And even though this is an infringement on the rights as parents, which exist in Ireland under legislation and in our written constitution, and those rights are very robust on paper because it's been brought in into either anti bullying, lgbtqi, anti bullying or, or those various sort of Trojan horse mechanisms, parents have no opportunity to remove the children from those class, even if they want to. And then also we have full self ID whereby men in Ireland who say they are women are allowed to play female sport, they're allowed into female changing rooms toilets, they're even sent to female prison and sent to female homeless shelters.
Turning Point Tonight Host
So, okay, help me understand here. I'm vaguely familiar with the Troubles, the Protestants versus the Catholics in Ireland. And as bad as that looks from the outside, my understanding was at least they're both Christian factions. What happened between then and now to kind of tank the more standard, the more normal, traditional value system that Ireland upheld, even if there were, you know, divisions in the different sects of Christianity.
Lisha De Bruyne
So it's my observation, really, that Ireland has transformed from the most Catholic country in the world to the most radical, progressive country in the world. And in many ways we've almost like segued from one theoretically to the next because there's still so much social control within the culture. But it's just, it's a new religion. So whereas it used to be Catholicism, now it's very much like justice, a social justice theory and the religion of trans, the religion around open borders. These are kind of magical beliefs whereby, you know, we're saying it is possible for a man to turn into a woman, for a woman to be a man, it is possible to change sex. I mean, everyone knows that's not true. Right? But there's just a very noisy locus of power whereby the locus of like the power used to reside in the Catholic Church, now it resides in the NGO industrial complex, in the academy, in the bubble, as I call it, the Eruptis, which is our parliament. And you know, these people hold views which really are so disconnected with the ordinary views of ordinary people. So there's a, there's just a growing disconnect between social policy that's been pushed onto people and what people really believe and care about.
Turning Point Tonight Host
Now I'm curious, and you might not have like in depth information on this, but you kind of mentioned that it's outside kind of globalist forces coming in from, you know, the people at the World Economic Forum or even the UK kind of pushing their ideas onto the Irish Parliament or Irish government. What advantage is there that these people are going against what the populace actually wants and believes in and is just kind of doing their thing, like you said, top down, forcing all this agenda onto the people of Ireland?
Lisha De Bruyne
So I think what I've seen and others have commented on this also Irish culture is particularly mimetic, which is an evolutionary phrase. What I mean by that is we're far more likely than say other cultures. Irish people are very prone to kind of wondering and asking what does the majority feel about this? What does the majority think about this? Rather than what do I believe, what do I think and what's best for my family? And because of that, there's a vulnerability there that is being exploited by our elites, by political elites. There's also, I think, a sense of, I guess it's some kind of post colonial hangover because we are or were a white country. It's not very obvious that we were colonized, but we were colonized probably for maybe the longest time of all the British colonies. So I think there's something there insofar as we don't really seem to have confidence in really who we are and we have this need to get a pat on the head from Europe to be the best boys in class, to, to be easily cowed by these supernatural agendas and institutions rather than Saying, you know, we're a small little country, we don't really have any geopolitical significance, but we're just going to do what suits us. And you saw that recently with the referendum in Ireland, the government was trying to bring forward constitutional amendments. We've got a written constitution like you guys in the U.S. it's from 1937 and there's one article in particular, Article 41.2 the government was trying to remove at the behest of the un who said it was holding women back. And it was discriminatory and old fashioned. But the language actually when you read it was quite beautiful because it said that the common good can't be achieved by the women, the work of women in the home, the common good. The state cannot achieve the common good without this work. And to me that was a very beautiful and radical, really acknowledgement of the unpaid work that women do, the whole society together. But CEDAW and the UN said no, that's too old fashioned. Rip it off, get rid of it. And my organization, the Countess had teams in 30 locations all around Ireland for seven weeks and about five days out. We knew we were going to win. Even though every single ngo, the two parties of government and the so called opposition Sinn Fein were all on the other side of us. It was really a David and Goliath race. But this is one of the opportunities when Irish people really got to tell the government what they actually feel about these weird and unwanted ideological policies that are constantly being shoved at us.
Turning Point Tonight Host
You know, there's so many things in your answer to get to that I'd be fascinated about. But at the beginning you kind of said, well, Ireland is more of a memetic culture. It means, you know, you're trying to assimilate as opposed to be an individual with thoughts. And that's, that's where the term meme comes from, if people are familiar with online culture. But I think we saw a lot of that here in the United states too Post 9, 11, the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center. Interestingly enough, because Americans are so nice, the sentiment for Islam actually went up after those attacks. And it seems to be kind of what you're saying is there's this cultural element of like, well, go along because we want to get along, everybody wants to be nice and friendly. And I think that has represented itself in the way that a lot of European countries, we included, you know, in the past, have talked about, you know, immigration, people coming into the country. What do you think needs to happen to break that for the people of Ireland or just Western people as a whole to go, no, I don't care if you think it's mean. I don't care if you think I'm wrong. I don't care if it's not the nicest way to do it. This is the way that we want society structured and this is how we're going to do it. What needs to happen to break that?
Lisha De Bruyne
So I think as a starting off point when it comes to immigration, I think we must legitimize dissenting views, allow them into a very narrow open window as it exists in Ireland, and also say it's perfectly fine to say let's manage immigration for the benefit of our country, rather than hold onto these sort of abstract luxury beliefs whereby we owe everyone who wants to get into our country a home. Like there's a lot of talking points you hear in our legacy media, our mainstream media, like, oh, the Irish went everywhere and you know, now it's our turn. But I really refute that. I mean, we weren't put up in four star hotels with three meals a day, that's for sure, you know, when we came to Ellis Island. And I think, you know, if people want to work hard and work in, that's okay. But like I'm heartened by the Department of Justice now is starting to harden, hopefully not just its rhetoric but its policies vis a vis. For example, you know, there's easy fixes like don't give people citizenship so quickly. Like asylum should not be the fast track to citizenship if indeed you are fleeing war. And like in Ireland, there's a huge appetite, which is a good thing for helping genuine refugees, you know, families like mothers, fathers, small children fleeing actual war. But what's happening is that filter or funnel is being used by economic migrants. And so it's choking up that whole route or means in it's destroying goodwill for bonafide asylum seekers. And also it's making it far too easy to be Irish and to reunite families. I mean, if you really are fleeing a war, you should just want to be in that country, the host country, until the war is over. Right. Like it shouldn't be a backdoor into a country. And I think that we need to make that argument clear and not also, you know, what not being manipulated by emotionally evocative first person accounts. We see that all the time in our state media. I say state media but, you know, it's heavily funded by the government. We're just like drip fed, like a propaganda diet of, you know, this lovely person. It's hard to debate that this lovely person, their great story. And that's exactly the playbook that was used in trans. And I'm so aware that as a campaigner in this field, you know, like whatever you do, if you're watching mainstream media in Ireland, you will be encouraged not to ask the why, how, you know, how does this really impact us, the big picture? It'll always be the first person accounts which are impossible to argue with, obviously, because we all feel compassion on an individual level. Of course we do. We're human beings.
Turning Point Tonight Host
Yeah. No, that's, that is something that goes on in our media all the time. It's, look at this, you know, poor beleaguered single mother of an okay, all that's fine, but that doesn't change the policy that should be in place in the United States of America. Alicia debrune, thank you so much. I appreciate the conversation. And for our viewers, I think this is a really good insight into not only, of course, you know, we here are America first, but also at the same time, there is a huge threat to the west as a whole. And it is good to see Western people kind of band together and say, hey, this is not how we want things to run where we live. If you'd like to do that somewhere else, go for it. But Lisa, Lisha De Bruin, thank you so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time.
Lisha De Bruyne
Thank you. Thanks so much for having me on.
Turning Point Tonight Host
Thank you. Coming up next here in Turning Point tonight, we've got some, we've got some more fun stuff. I know that that's a, that's a little bit serious, but also it's important to talk about saving the west is a thing that we want to do here in America, but also in Western countries more broadly. Tptpc.com is the email if you'd like to send us your thoughts, comments, concerns, even, even criticisms, you're allowed to send those because we are a western oriented show. You can send those to tptpusa.com Coming up next, we're going to talk about speaking of producer Glenn is shaking his head because we're not going to be able to put either one of these segments on YouTube talking about the trans weightlifter that dominated the field in Texas over the weekend got stripped of his belt. Awesome. Good news, ultimately that coming up right after the break, don't go away.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
Now.
Turning Point Tonight Host
This is the first year that a.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
Trans woman is in the competition. How do you feel about that?
Monica Page
Amazing. I feel honored to be a part of history. I have A lot of incredible trans friends who are athletes. And so we're all inspired. This woman's competing.
Turning Point Tonight Host
Uh huh.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
And have you actually ever met Heather Swanson?
Monica Page
No, I've never competed against her before, no.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
She's not exactly your average trans athlete.
Monica Page
Well, what is an average trans athlete? Honestly, I find that kind of bigoted, David.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
Okay, Heather Swanson is actually joining us now. Ms. Swanson, how does it feel to be competing today?
Turning Point Tonight Host
I can't tell you how free I.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
Feel now that I've started identifying as a woman, now that I can compete as female, I'm ready to smash the other girls. And is it correct you just started identifying as female two weeks ago? I'm not here to talk about my transition. I am the strongest woman this state has ever seen. Any words for the challenger and Miss Woman?
Monica Page
Good luck, Heather.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
Luck is for dudes. Yeah, I've won. I'm a strong woman.
Rubrik/Apollo Advertiser
Look at it.
Trump Turkey Pardon Narrator
I'm the best. I'm the strongest.
Turning Point Tonight Host
I know that was probably rather long, but holy cow. We're playing older clips of south park that turned out to be prophetic in a way that might as well have been a cartoon documentary of how things have unfolded in the transgender athletes world. It's funny, as we're doing this particular clip, we thought originally, I wonder what this is going to do as far as copyrights playing a big long clip of south park when we put it on social media. And then I realized, oh, we can't put this on social media Anyway because the YouTube overlords hate, for some reason us poking fun at men who think they're women. But in this vein, in the idea that this is just a prerecorded documentary of the unfolding of how this is all going down. Uh, yesterday a dude who won a weightlifting contest in Texas was stripped of his title because he was competing against women and quote, unquote, identified as a woman. The official Strongman Games world championship took place over the weekend in Arlington, Texas. And a Philadelphia athlete named Jamie Booker, who, I actually don't know what his, his name might have been Jamie. Jamie's one of those names. It's like Taylor or Sam, one of those kind of not entirely sure what's going on here names. And you know, I know plenty of solidly women women named Taylor and solidly men men named Taylor as well. But I think what I'm trying to say is, I don't know, just judging by the name, that this dude is trying to not be a dude, I guess. Jamie Booger dominated the competition and Won the women's open category. Congrats, Jamie, you did it. Yeah, beat a bunch of ladies. The runner up is a woman named Andrea Thompson. She's from the UK and was seen storming off the podium after the medal ceremony. She also called it bs, which is an appropriate term to use for this. Supposedly. According to Rebecca Roberts, who is a three time champion of the competition, nobody knew that Jamie Booker was born a dude. If they knew, because. Because you wonder right when these competitions are happening, why don't athletes just walk off immediately? And maybe some of them did know, but there was an official, you know, designation. But if that's the case, if this woman, Rebecca Roberts, who again won this competition three times, is saying, no, we, we didn't actually know it was kept from us at the time. Well, maybe that's why they actually did end up competing. You see so many instances and good for these women, by the way, who just refused. I'm not playing this volleyball match against this team with five dudes on it. I'm just not going to do that. Or swimming or fencing or whatever other of these situations that continually pop up. Women just saying, yeah, I'm not, I'm not doing that. Um, so if that is true, I guess I understand why everyone still competed. It didn't walk off, but at the same time, yeah, you still can't do that. Uh, the contest rules, according to the actual strong Men's Games World Championship, clearly stipulate that athletes must compete in the category that aligns with their biological sex at birth. So we've got kind of a trying to dupe everybody. Announcers, organizers announced that they were completely unaware of this fact before the competition had been and had been urgently investigating. Since being informed, they said had they been aware or had they been declared at any point during the competition, the athlete would have not been permitted to compete in the Women's Open category. The bottom line here is, while this is horrifying in so many different ways, while it is crazy that south park is effectively doing a cartoon documentary five, six years in advance of the things actually happening, it is nice to know that the enough people realize, hey, this is a problem. To where the official Strongman Games would say, yeah, you can't do that. And even though I there's a little bit of criticism to be thrown for being duped, the fact that they retroactively said, oh, absolutely not, this is not okay, after they were informed is a sign that things are going in the positive direction. Just days after winning on Tuesday, Jamie Booker was stripped of this Article says her his title, Andrew Thompson, the UK lifter, was elevated to the winner, which a bunch of people were already calling for. All of the competition places were altered accordingly. Bottom line here is that sweet. This is good. Does is this problem still going to persist? Are we still going to have to keep fighting it? Yes, 100%. And it is good to know that some people, most people are on the sane side of things. I would imagine that when this Jamie Booker decides to make a public statement, I don't know, Media Matters and Midas Touch will be all over it. Like, why, why did you not allow this dude to compete with women? I would imagine there'll be all over that. But at this point, Booker has not stated anything publicly. But yeah, I think, I think this is honestly a good thing. Yes, it's crazy that we're in this position. Yes, it's crazy that we have to keep talking about it. But ultimately we're in a good position here being able to recognize, yeah, this is crazy and nuts and we shouldn't put up with it. And the organizers themselves are saying, yeah, we already have rules around this, so don't worry, we're taking care of it. Coming up on Turning Point tonight. Here in the next segment, we get some funny stuff to react to, which is we're not phoning it in today. We're doing the full effort but also going into a weekend, a long Thanksgiving weekend where one we're a lot we're very focused on what we're thankful for here Turning Point tonight. But to, you know, we just want to have some fun, laugh a little bit. That's coming up after the break. Tptpsa.com if you want to send along an email, feel free to do so there. Also, go subscribe to our Turning Point Tonight YouTube channel where this segment will not be, but a bunch of the other segments will be. So make sure you subscribe there. We'll be right back after the break. Don't go away. That poor woman, if you couldn't hear it, is scared she's gonna miss her flight because there's protesters protesting outside of LAX because they want more pay for a job. They do freaking terribly. I hate LAX with a visceral passion. Some point someday someone from LAX is going to see just how much vitriolic hatred I have for that godforsaken hellhole of an airport and they're gonna ban me from flying out of there, which, honest to God, it'll be more expensive for me to fly out of the Orange county airport or the Inland Empire Airport. But it'll be worth it because good Lord, is that the worst place on earth. The good news is they're going to have a ton of people coming into LAX for the World cup, for the Olympics, all of the different things that are gonna be happening in the LA area. So great freaking. The international stage is gonna see how bad LAX airport is and unfortunately will probably be put on blast. I. Yeah, good luck, I guess people getting your stupid strike to do whatever it is that the strike is doing. But gosh, I hate that place. And that lady is not deserving of missing her flight because you guys want to pay raise. Speaking of travel, I thought this was interesting. It's making some headlines around the, the Internet. I think I probably would have disagreed with this not all that long ago. Several years ago. Now I 100% wholeheartedly agree with the Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, when he says, hey, when you're at the airport, why don't you start acting like a human being? Don't show up in your jammies, uh, wear hard shoes and a hat and a coat. He doesn't say all that, but he might as well have watch. This is the Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, talking about travel attire and manners.
Rubrik/Apollo Advertiser
Clip 6 maybe we should say please and thank you to our pilots and to our, to our flight attendants. I think again, I call this just.
Turning Point Tonight Host
Maybe dressing with some respect. You know, whether it's a pair of jeans and a decent shirt, I would.
Rubrik/Apollo Advertiser
Encourage people to maybe dress a little.
Turning Point Tonight Host
Better, which encourages us to maybe behave a little better.
Rubrik/Apollo Advertiser
Let's try not to wear slippers and.
Turning Point Tonight Host
And pajamas as we come to the airport.
Rubrik/Apollo Advertiser
I think that's positive.
Turning Point Tonight Host
I used to be the guy that wore the most comfy thing to the airport, and I still do. Maybe the, the crux in this that I might be missing is that as I've gotten older, my taste has become a little bit more refined. So maybe the clothes that also look good are a little bit more comfy as well. So maybe that's the result revolving component here. But I used to be the guy that showed up in sweats and Crocs, which is, which is fine, I guess you're allowed to do that. But also a couple years ago, I couldn't tell you exactly when it might have been from like a Jan. There was a time where Charlie exclusively wore suits on his show and I wasn't sure why. Asked him about it. Trying to change things up. And I think what I gathered from that is that sometimes when you look good, you feel good, you start acting Like a better person. There was a college class where I bet a professor that I would wear suit every single day and they'd give me, like, 10 extra credit points or whatever it was. And I did. And honest to God, I learned more in that class. I can't attribute it all to the suit. Maybe part of it was the teacher, maybe is the environment. Maybe it was the subject matter that I really enjoyed. But if you look better, you perform better. I did it in college. Charlie did on his radio show. He kind of passed that on to me. I. I don't always. I'm not always in a suit and tie, but I do, you know, like to dress in a little bit more of a formal way because I feel like the better you look, the better you end up acting. So I wholehead, wholeheartedly agree with Sean Duffy there on looking good. Especially when you're flying places, because there's no. I don't know. Might as well. Dang it. We're not gonna have time to play this clip. We'll. We'll save this. We'll save this for next week. I will sign off here saying, happy Thanksgiving. Have a good time. Remember, conservatives have more liberal friends than liberals have conservative friends. So chances are you, as a conservative, may have a lib at your table this evening. Treat them with kindness and respect, and also nail it into their heads that socialism doesn't work. And treat them kindly, because chances are if you have any liberal friends, they have banished you from the table already. And that's okay. No, that's fine. Have a happy Thanksgiving. We'll see you tomorrow. Same time, same place. God bless America.
Joe Bob
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In this Thanksgiving Eve episode of Turning Point Tonight on Real America’s Voice, host Joe Bob takes listeners through a mix of hard-hitting cultural commentary, current events, and a special focus on debates about American traditions, progressive policies, and challenges facing Western civilization both at home and abroad. The episode moves from the tradition and controversy surrounding the White House Turkey Pardon (with a humorous edge), to in-depth discussions of progressive politics in Ireland with guest barrister Lisha De Bruyne, to a viral story about transgender participation in women’s sports. Threads of cultural skepticism, defense of Western norms, and policy critique run throughout, punctuated by Joe Bob’s frequently sarcastic and approachable style.
“We continue to say to no end that there is no place for violence in our political circle, in our political discussion, in any aspect of politics here in the United States of America… We hope that even our friends on the lib side of the aisle get together with us in saying no more to political violence.”
“Although some key details leave many doubtful about its authenticity, some say the turkey pardon could possibly date back to Abraham Lincoln's time in the 1860s... the modern turkey pardon did not become an annual tradition until George H.W. Bush’s administration in 1989.”
“…a federal judge has blocked President Trump’s pardon of a turkey. And I know we kid about it, but this is actually a serious thing that continues to happen. President Trump can’t really do anything because a federal judge appointed by Obama probably or Biden has blocked the president from doing a thing that the president probably should have been able to do.”
“…JD Vance freaking is on my team… Who really likes turkey? Who really likes turkey? You're all full of—everybody who raised your hands, I know, think about it… how many times do you roast an 18 pound turkey just randomly?”
“How is it that the socialists always end up making so much stinking money?... The mayor's salary Zohran Mamdani would increase from $258,000... to $300,000 for the working class rich kid socialist, which by the way is the prerequisite to being a socialist. You have to be a rich kid first.”
“Socialists somehow end up making more money than me and you because they're just that good at public service. Ridiculous.”
“Ireland is in many ways being used as a sort of petri dish because if policy and law can be better in Ireland, it’s a PR win for these laws, even if they're not very popular with the people themselves… a slew of radical progressive policy and law… is really at odds with the values of ordinary Irish people.”
“Ireland has transformed from the most Catholic country in the world to the most radical, progressive country in the world… The locus of power used to reside in the Catholic Church, now it resides in the NGO industrial complex, in the academy, in the parliament.”
“We’re far more likely than other cultures… to wonder ‘what does the majority feel about this?’ rather than ‘what do I believe… what’s best for my family?’... there's a vulnerability there that is being exploited by our elites, by political elites."
“We must legitimize dissenting views… manage immigration for the benefit of our country, rather than hold onto these sort of abstract luxury beliefs whereby we owe everyone… a home."
“…we here are America first, but also at the same time, there is a huge threat to the West as a whole. And it is good to see Western people band together and say, hey, this is not how we want things to run where we live. If you'd like to do that somewhere else, go for it.”
“South Park… might as well have been a cartoon documentary of how things have unfolded in the transgender athletes world.”
“The bottom line here... enough people realize this is a problem to where the official Strongman Games would say, 'Yeah, you can’t do that'… the organizers themselves are saying, ‘Yeah, we already have rules around this, so don’t worry, we’re taking care of it.’”
“Maybe we should say please and thank you to our pilots and to our, to our flight attendants…maybe dress with some respect… try not to wear slippers and pajamas as we come to the airport.”
“If you look better, you perform better… I learned more in that class. I can't attribute it all to the suit… If you look better, you end up acting better.”
“Chances are you, as a conservative, may have a lib at your table this evening. Treat them with kindness and respect, and also nail it into their heads that socialism doesn't work.”
“We hope that even our friends on the lib side… get together with us in saying no more to political violence.” (Joe Bob, [03:35])
“Tomorrow, 45 million turkeys will make the ultimate sacrifice for America's feast. But not this one.” (Monica Page, [08:27])
“Who really likes, be honest with yourselves, who really likes turkey... how many times do you roast an 18 pound turkey just randomly?” (JD Vance, as paraphrased by Joe Bob, [14:10])
“How is it that the socialists always end up making so much stinking money?” (Joe Bob, [21:07])
“Ireland has transformed from the most Catholic country in the world to the most radical, progressive country in the world.” (Lisha De Bruyne, [36:10])
“If you look better, you perform better... If you look better, you end up acting better.” (Joe Bob, [56:33])
“Have a happy Thanksgiving. We'll see you tomorrow. Same time, same place. God bless America.” (Joe Bob, [58:58])
Joe Bob’s tone is assertive, sarcastic, and frequently tongue-in-cheek. The show makes use of pop culture references, internet memes, and colloquial observations, especially in segments critiquing progressive policies and mainstream media culture. The interview with Lisha De Bruyne shifts to a more serious and analytical mode, while maintaining the overall mission of defending “Western values” and American-style cultural conservatism.
For listeners seeking a summary:
This episode covers current cultural debates around American and Western traditions, lampoons perceived hypocrisies of socialist politicians, explores Ireland’s shift towards progressive norms and external influence, and celebrates recent pushback against biological males in women’s sport. Lively, critical, and occasionally humorous, the conversation threads tie a “defense of Western civilization” to both local and international conflicts in social policy.