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This is an iHeart podcast. We're gonna debunk several of the statistics thrown around by blue leaders in order to make it seem like their cities and states aren't infested with crime. Speaking of infested with crime, we're gonna check in with show favorite friend Savannah Hernandez on her trip to Portland, which was again, totally peaceful and nothing wrong went there. Nothing wrong happened again in Portland because it's a super peaceful and totally serene environment. Also, your bumper sticker on your car, really interesting new study. Talks about how people react to being cut off by somebody who has a different political ideology and says so in their bumper sticker. All that more coming up on this episode of Turning Point tonight. My name is Joe Bob. Thanks so much for tuning in. Together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback through the mockery of terrible lib ideas that this is Turning Point tonight. Gotta remind you, TPTP USA.com is the email you're going to want to send anything, anything that comes across your desk that you're like, hey, this should be talked about. Or if you're watching the show, you have any comments, thoughts, concerns, criticisms even. We're not the libs. We don't like censoring people just because they are wrong. I'm sorry, disagree. TPT tpusa.com is the place to send all of your emails. I've actually been responding to several of them because I don't know, just it's fun, it's fun engaging with you folks on the email tptp USA.com youm should also subscribe to our YouTube channel Turning Point tonight. Some interesting and fun things coming there. Make sure you don't miss it because there's going to be exclusive stuff on the Internet. Subscribe to our TPT YouTube channel as well. I want to get to this story because I think this is super important. Debunking the statistics that are being thrown around by big blue state governors and big blue city leaders. Well, oh okay. The, the statistics show that blue cities and states are safer when it comes to crime and homicide. So says the libs running those areas. Now this is all coming on the back of President Trump saying, hey, we're going to send the National Guard into these areas in order to protect the federal facilities. Like in places like Portland where again is so peaceful. You can just enjoy a nice cup of coffee on the veranda and go to a cafe. It's all peaceful and nothing wrong ever happens there. But in response to that there have been memes being made Governor Abbott of Texas posted a meme that basically said, the blue leaders are very, very upset. President Trump, do not touch our crime. We love our crime in this city. Now, what's been interesting is a bunch of the blue governors have been responding to that tweet, specifically New York and California with some statistics. Now, the question is whether or not those statistics are accurate and representing the whole picture for first of which is Governor Kathy Hochul. She responded with to that meme that Governor Abbott posted with this. Texas total crime rate is 20.5% higher than new York's. In case you're confused, that means it's worse. Of course, libs are trying to do those mike drop. I gotcha with these sorts of statistics. Well, then you have to ask the question, is that really what's going on? Is crime in New York actually less bad than it is in Texas? Okay, well, let me solve this problem for you. This is a. I know this is going to come as a shock to most people, but in the great state of Texas, they do this crazy thing called enforce the law. They actually prosecute crime, and therefore they have more convictions of criminals, unlike in the state of New York, specifically in New York City, where they don't prosecute crime. And guess what? If you don't prosecute crime. Yeah. You're gonna have less of a crime percentage of your overall population against other places that do prosecute crimes. Let me give you a. An example. Uh, this is our friend Savannah Craven. You may remember this clip from, I believe, April of this year, where she was just walking and talking on the streets to people, as people are supposed to do, and got attacked for her trouble ahead. And play clip 7 of having a child.
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Foster care and killing children that have been abused.
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That's not the point. What I'm saying, that is horrible, and I apologize for having to show that to you. But again, need to make a point of the example here. Glenn, can you pull up graphic nine, too? Because this is what Savannah ended up looking like after this brutal attack by a person who wants to kill babies. Which shouldn't be surprising. If you're willing to kill people, why would you not be willing to punch people in the face? Well, lo and behold, several months later, Alvin Bragg, the famous Manhattan district attorney, dropped all of the charges. Uh, I believe graphic 8 would be sufficient for right now. Uh, the same guy who made up a big case to prosecute the former president of the United States. The current president, United States President Trump, uh, didn't charge this on video. Clear assault of a conservative activist who's just asking questions on the street. Now, I know this is one example, but it would be crazy to think that this didn't happen over and over and over again, especially considering the fact that this was freaking on video and you're still not going to prosecute it as a crime. All of that's to be said. Uh, sure, Kathy Hochul. I, I guess in theory, statistically you can say that. Well, yeah, there are 20% more crimes in the state of Texas. Well, yeah, if the state prosecutes crimes and therefore has criminals being locked up, yeah, you're gonna have a higher percentage of quote, unquote, crime that is convicted. If you don't prosecute, guess what, you're gonna have more crime. And your statistic is also going to be lower. That's not exactly how we want to run cities in this country. We'd actually like to prosecute crime and enforce the law. And if you don't, you don't get to brag about how your crime rate is, quote, unquote, lower at. Ask some, ask anybody on the street if they feel safer in New York City or in really any city in Texas. They're gonna say, you know, I feel safer in Texas because they actually prosecute crime, which actually is a deterrent for criminals. Which brings us to another big blue governor. Governor Gavin Newsom of California also quote, tweeted or quote posted x this meme from this very accurate meme from Governor Greg Abbott. Uh, he says, hey, at Greg Abbott, Texas homicide rate is 39% higher than California's. Call home your national Guard and deal with your crime epidemic. Oh, burn. From the governor of California. Well, I wonder where he's getting those statistics. Well, they actually came from the cdc. And yeah, those are the statistics posted in the cdc. But you have to ask yourself, well, is that data accurate? Well, the FBI came out with a new system of reporting crime and crime data nationwide. And if you ask the question, well, does California entirely adhere to those new reporting practices? The answer is no. In 2022, 98.8% of Texas law enforcement agencies were co were adherent to the new FBI system, the National Incident Based Reporting System. Basically, a hundred percent of Texas policing agencies submitted all of their Data to the FBI in 2022. Again, this is part of a rollout of the FBI's again, National Incident Based Reporting System, California, 50%. Half of the agencies in California did not report to that system. And here, I guess I don't know if the math works out here, but if you don't report by up to half of the crimes committed in your state, I would imagine that the crimes in your state would look lower. This is, this is not difficult math. Now, the numbers that Gavin was citing were from 2023, just to be fair, and not much improved. It only jumped to 75% in California of policing agencies were reporting to the national incident based reporting system that the FBI has and it wasn't including one of the biggest crime centers, San Bernardino County, California. And if you're familiar with California, you're familiar with San Bernardino. And if you omit the crime statistics from that county, guess what? It's going to look like you have less crime. Now, the numbers from 2024 and obviously 2025 are not available. But the bottom line here is Governor Newsom is quoting statistics based on his own state statistics that aren't in compliance with the federal numbers and then claiming that he's done something. Now, I will say this. It's not homicide rates aren't good at all. We don't want to see homicide rates anywhere in the country. Red state, blue state, purple state, doesn't matter. Homicide is bad. I feel like that's a thing that we all know and I don't think it needs to be reiterated. But at the same time, you can't fudge the numbers and then post statistics that the CDC has, but they only have them because you guys didn't report all of the crime statistics that came in through this new system. I realize it's a little bit convoluted, it's a little bit nuanced, but that's what conservative conservatism is. It's the ability to deal with nuance. The bottom line here is if you don't report all the crime statistics, yeah, the crime statistics are going to look lower. Thanks, Gavin, for helping point that out through the state. That is not, that is not not submitting all of the data. By the way, it was, it was interesting too. Several of the articles about this were talking about how California is not compliant because the system is too difficult. In other words, the dumb bureaucracies in California haven't adapted to the new system. Whereas Texas, no problem at all, 100% of them are reporting to the entirety of all of their quote unquote crime statistics. But again, Governor Newsom and Governor Hochul are trying to play off these statistics as if, as if they mean something without obviously giving the full picture. What's the Quotes. There are lies, damn lies and statistics. And that is what we are seeing here. But there was one other governor that was in that, in that meme shared by Greg Abbott. I'm surprised he didn't take up the entire scene because, well, physical dimensions being at play, and that was J.B. pritzker. This I thought was interesting, too. This is coming out of Breitbart News. They actually compiled all of the crime data and the shooting victims in the. In Chicago, specifically throughout the last 10 years. And the number is staggering and shocking. War zone Chicago sees over 32,000 shooting victims in the last decade alone. This comes on the heels of a Breitbart report where they talking about last last week alone, 30 people were sh. Five of them fatally. And this is another interesting statistic, too. Yes, Chicago shooting deaths have gone down. One of the freakonomics components of that is the ability to save people from gunshot wounds has gone up. So the shootings have relatively stayed the same. Deaths have gone down, which is good. That's a, that's a good thing. We don't want to see more deaths. But at the same time, if it's because they're able to be saved at the hospital, well, that doesn't eliminate the danger of being shot on the war zone streets of Chicago. According to the Chicago Tribune, over 330 people have been murdered in Chicago thus far in 2025. And it's up to J.B. pritzker, the governor of Chicago, who is now saying Trump wants to create a war zone. News flash, JB it's already a war zone. Having said that, this is what JB Pritzker is saying. Why President Trump is possibly sending National Guard to Chicago. It's not because he's trying to protect federal agencies. It's not because Chicago is in fact a war zone. It's because of this ridiculous reason. Go ahead and play. What is it? Cut four. Pulling at them. But they think they can get people used to the idea. And next year I fear that what they're going to do is deploy these folks eventually to polling places and say they're protecting the vote. Yeah, that shouldn't be a problem. J Brief. If everybody's able to vote and an American citizen therefore eligible to vote, what would be the problem of making sure that the polling stations are safe? If they're unsafe, maybe we should beef up security and make them safe. Gavin Newsom also said something similar to this of ICE might be at the polling stations to intimidate voters. Why would that intimidate voters? Gavin is it because maybe the voters that are voting shouldn't be voting because they're here illegally. It's kind of a conundrum. You've got yourself in there. Again, the governors of the blue states of around the country claiming, no, this is. We're totally peaceful. Nothing bad is going on here. Fudging statistics, manipulating numbers and then claiming that they've done something is hilarious and should be seen as hilarious. I give this. I give this four eye rolls. It's a new thing I'm due. It's a rating system that I have in line with the Washington Post's Pinocchio's. I'm gonna go with four eye rolls here. And it's not the full five eye rolls just because homicide is bad regardless where you are. And we'll save that last eye roll for that specifically. But four eye rolls go to the blue governors of these blue states who claim their crime is down. And as we wrap this up, uh, just because we like to hit on Portland, and we're gonna talk to Savannah Hernandez a little bit later about Portland, claiming that their blue cities and blue states are totally safe is ridiculous. Singing about it is even more ridiculous. I regret to inform you that the liberal boomers are singing yet again in the. In the totally safe city of Portland. Watch this. All right, all right. Let's, let's. We don't need any more of that. Lying about statistics doesn't make cities safer, and singing about them doesn't change reality. We got a great show planned for you. Got some bumper sticker information. Do you have a political bumper sticker? Do you see political bumper stickers that you don't like? Well, there's some news statistics out on how people react to the bumper stickers. Like I said, we're going to talk to Savannah Hernandez who was in Portland for the last several days. We're going to talk with Turning Points White House correspondent Monica Page, and we're going to watch some hilarious videos done by Dumb Libs yet again because we love doing that here on this show. Don't go away. We'll be right back after the break. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight, where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback through the mockery of terrible ideas pushed by the left. You can email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com love seeing each and every one of your emails and might respond to them. And I know he's been saying we're gonna try and get to more at the end of the show, but there's been so much to get to. It's, it's a little bit tough. So I am trying to respond to as many as I can. Again. TPTP USA.com love seeing each and every one of your emails. Let us know in the emails. How do you feel when you're driving your car and you get cut off on the freeway? Okay, picture yourself in that situation now. How do you feel if you're driving your car, you get cut off on the freeway and the person driving the car that cut you off has a Harris Walls sticker on the back of it or you know, proud liberal or leftism is going to save the country or I'm a progressive or I like good coffee. All of those things mean the same thing to me. You're definitely a lib. And how does that make you feel? Does it make you feel worse inside? Is it going to listen elicit a different reaction from you? Well, the answer according to study finds in a new report is yes, actually it is. I actually have some differing thoughts on this, but I want to read you some of what this report is finding out of party stickers. Meaning like, you know, if you're a conservative and you see a lib sticker, uh, don't matter when the driving is good. Uh, yeah, it doesn't. I don't really care about whoever's driving. If, if they are being a good driver, uh, they raise hostility. However, when driving is bad. What they did here is they put people through like a simulator. And the simulator used computer generated dash cam footage to simulate realistic driving scenarios. Participants then watched videos of another car either driving totally smoothly and had, you know, different bumper stickers on it or driving badly, cutting them off, forcing them to break hard, et cetera, et cetera, things that you do when you're driving badly. The cars that displayed, sorry, that car then displayed four different options of the bumper sticker. Neutral bumper stickers like I love my dog or stickers like proud Democrat or proud Republican. Uh, so no bumper sticker I love my dog, Proud Democrat, proud Republican. Uh, turns out that if the sticker did not align, and this is both sides by the way, did not align with the person politically, it would elicit a different response. Honking and feeling thermometer, which is a different rating that came up for this specific thing, shifted towards colder reactions if the sticker did not align with the person politically. Uh, and interestingly enough, they also tested for race and because we are not a racist country, turns out, didn't really have any statistical, statistical significance at all with the race of the driver, it did. However, with their political ideology or the way that they lean directionally, if a conservative was cut off by a liberal, uh, one that kind of makes sense and it probably happens more often because liberals tend to be worse drivers because they hate cars and would rather take public transit and trying to eliminate ownership of anything because they don't like the way that the world is run, they don't like the free market society, and they're freaking communists and want to get rid of cars altogether. Forgot where I was going with that rant. I just kind of had to keep going because that's generally the type of person that cuts you off in traffic. Probably in a lesser instance, when conservatives would cut liberals off, it would elicit a similar reaction. Here's where I think I personally differ from this. When I see somebody cut me off, one, I'm never happy about it, but I actually have the reverse reaction. I only get irritated when I see conservatives cut me off because I feel like they should know better. Right? I have a higher standard for conservatives overall, how they interact with me and how they interact with the rest of the world. If a conservative cuts me off in traffic, I get frustrated because I know that we are better than them. I recognize, hey, conservatives have a higher threshold of how we view the world. And I think that conservatives are. Should be held to a higher standard because, again, we are better. If I get cut off by, you know, somebody in a Prius who has, you know, the peace sign with save the bees and Kamala Harris for president or proud, whatever it is that that insinuates that they're a lib, I don't get as mad because that's what I expect from them. I expect them to be. To be bad, inconsiderate drivers that just. I need to do the thing that I want to do. I missed my exit, and for some reason, you're gonna pay for it. Yeah, every. Nobody likes getting cut off in traffic. But if they cut me off and they have, I don't know, a free Palestine sticker or whatever, the liberal cause of the moment, climate change is an existential threat on their car, I go, yeah, that. That makes sense. This person doesn't have regard for people behind them. And while I'm irritated at being cut off in traffic, I get it. It makes sense to me. They're. They're inconsiderate people generally as a whole. And I don't know if that's a healthy way of me thinking about it, but I would. I would love to see and hear your feedback and reaction, how you perceive people when they cut you off in traffic and have a political sticker on the back of their car. TBT tbusa.com it's kind of par for the course to me. I expect that from libs when they're driving cars and you know, make, make bonehead errors and maneuvers. Shoot, I'm not sure if we have entire time. Basically I want to get to this really quick. How the media has covered the would be assassin of Brett Kavanaugh, who is now a girl. I guess for some reason the ruling came down, the sentencing came down for the guy, I'm not gonna say his name, who attempted to kill Brett Kavanaugh. And the news reporting around it was ridiculous. He is now saying that he is a girl, which is crazy, but only got eight years. And I'm sure this has been covered in other places. But what I would like to cover is the coverage of the this the New York sorry. The NBC News people wrote a woman who pleaded guilty to attempting to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh three years ago was sentenced on Friday. Oh yeah, the woman that did that, NBC News continued on to say Sophia, which again, I guess I'll use that name because it's not a real name now 29, was arrested outside of the home in June 2022 when she intended to kill the associate justice than herself. The New York Times actually added something interesting to this saying the judge also said that a lower sentence was warranted because an executive order issued by President Trump mandated that transgender women be held at male only federal facilities, which she could which she said the judge said could interfere with her transitioning care. Basically they're saying, well, the judge had to give her a lighter sentence. Her again using that stupid language, had to give this dude a lighter sentence because, well, he has to go to a male prison and because he is a she that would be worse for her. It's ridiculous nonsense. There's a bunch more examples here, including from the Washington Post, but I don't really have time to get to it because we want to save some time for a Monica Page, Turning Points White House correspondent, after we talk to Savannah Hernandez, all coming up here in Turning Point tonight. Don't go away. We'll be right back after this. This welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback through mockery of terrible lib ideas because all of their ideas happen to be terrible. Tptpsa.com is the best way you can get in touch with the show. Email us anytime you want tptpusa.com we love hearing your thoughts, comments, concerns, criticisms. And also there was some criticism yesterday. There was a. I can't believe you like Barry Weiss. My God, I don't know. I don't know if I maybe I did say I like her, but I didn't say I agree with her. So in response to that, I appreciate all of the thoughts, comments, concerns and even criticisms. It's not a lefty show. We don't censor anybody here. Tpt any thoughts, comments, concerns? I have some thoughts, comments, concerns about what's going on in obviously the most peaceful city in the world, Portland. There's never been any rioting there. No fireworks going off in the middle of the streets, no attacking any cops, no spitting in the face of federal agents. None of that happens in Portland. As the congresswoman that we played a while ago, a couple days ago on the show posted a picture of just a nice green park. Nothing is going wrong in Portland. People are singing, as you've seen earlier. Unless of course, all of that's not true. To figure that out, I'd love to bring a friend of the show, frequent guest and fan favorite Savannah Hernandez, who is a Turning Point contributor and Frontlines reporter. Savannah has spent the last week or so in Portland. You're back to safety now, thank goodness. But Savannah, first of all, thanks for joining. And second, what are your broad thoughts on the very, very safe, no crime ever happens anywhere city of Portland?
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Well, first off, thanks for having me, Joe Bob. This is one of my favorite shows, as you know. So it's such an honor to be here. Second off, yeah, you know, Portland is so peaceful. Every single time I go, I actually see people peacefully sleeping on the streets in a drug induced craze. But you know, that's just a part of Portland. That's just the vibe. Sometimes you'll see a fire that's happening, a bonfire is a building on fire potentially. But you know, beauty is at the eye of the beholder. And yes, federal agents are being attacked and journalists like myself are being swung on with steel bats, but that's just peaceful protests in the eyes of cnn.
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Yeah. So okay, in all seriousness, right, so I don't know how long you were there on the ground specifically, but I don't know, a couple nights of, you know, definitely peace. What is it like? They're just kind of your kind of anecdotal, intangible approach to like, is it scary? I mean, you tend to not be as nervous around those crazy thugs like I am. We've been together in instances where I'm like, I'm going to go inside now. And you're like, no, screw these people. I'm going to, I'm going to take them head on. What's like the feeling on the ground in kind of the more treacherous areas?
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Sure. So I'm glad that you prefaced what I'm about to say with that because usually I'm not afraid to go into these situations. Portland is a very special case for me because.
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Interesting.
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I am fully aware that it is not a city with law and order. So basically if you get stabbed, shot, maybe attacked a little bit, you can't call the police. Antifa runs the streets and they have since 2020, as we saw with the brutal beating of Andy. No, I mean they caused him to have a brain bleed and nobody was ever held accountable for that. Antifa has been running the streets and I remember being there and I think 2021, they still had the rioting that was going on over there. And this little old lady was on the street because it was the mid middle of a Saturday at 12pm and you had 100 people dressed in black in the local park. She starts filming because she was simply curious and they surrounded her and they tried to like slap her phone out of her hand and she was like, what the heck is going on? So just to give you guys an idea as to how violent these people are, doesn't matter, matter if you're a 90 year old grandma who's simply curious. They're going to come in and they're going to bully you, silence you, intimidate you, in some cases try to kill you or even kill you. This is something that's happened over the last couple of years. Antifa is extremely violent. So, you know, this is an area of the country that I'm even wary of going to because I am fully aware that there is no law and order or quite frankly a police force there.
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No, that's, that's actually super interesting to hear you say that. I'm specifically remembering a time where we were both, I think in New Mexico and the police were saying, hey, you guys need to move. And I, you know, as I was like, yeah, okay, I'll go ahead and move. And you're like, no, I'm press, I can be here. You can't tell me what to do. And so the. Wow. The fearless Savannah Hernandez, wary of Portland. That's, that's actually, that's, that's really interesting insight there. You obviously captured a bunch of Video. There's one video that obviously has a long form, but then it got cut up and turned into some hilarity. I'd like to play that video for you now and get your thoughts on 1. The overall situation that caused this video to happen, but to the Internet, just taking things and running with it. Watch this and we'll discuss.
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And now she's insulting me and telling me that I'm fat. What's their job?
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Arresting people who are assaulting people on public property.
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Like, you guys look.
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Who am I assaulting? Who am I? See, as you can see, the more you around, the more you're gonna find out, oh, okay, first of all, what, what was going on there where you like selfied and then called you fat? Which again, I don't know if they're blind or not, but how did that whole thing transpire? And I don't know what, what do you make of that? That peaceful, good hearted, kind young lady there in Portland?
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Yeah, Joe. Bob, this is basically what every single journalist and reporter has to deal with on the ground outside of the ICE facility in Portland. You are threatened, you're harassed, you're intimidated. In this instance, I was there for multiple days and then at that point, multiple hours when I finally just got frustrated and I was like, okay, I'm going to troll these people. Because basically for hours one, they found out I was with Turning Point usa, so made it a point to light a MAGA hat on fire right next to my face to try to intimidate me. And then they had pictures of Charlie down with Charlie getting shot in the neck, you know, drawn all over the area, which children walk past, by the way. So this is who is frequenting this area and has been for over 100 days. I had been there for hours. At this point, they're screaming at the federal agents. And keep in mind they're not screaming nice things. They're screaming kill yourself. It was definitely a very chaotic scene. And so after about two or three hours of this of being just harassed by these people and followed around, I finally was like, okay, I'm going to actually kind of like troll them a little bit and maybe even ask them some real legitimate questions. Because these, these two women in my video were like, fu, ice, we hate you so much. And then as soon as a right winger would come that they didn't like, they'd be like, you need to arrest this person immediately, get down here and do your job. Which is kind of hilarious because it's like, wait a Minute. And so that was my main question was like, if you hate ICE so much, why are you asking them for help? If you hate the police so much, why are you calling for the police? And then at that point, it was like, you're fat, you're ugly, this and that. And this went on, you know, again for hours. And Antifa had come up to me, and they initially, I was just filming again because, you know, usually if it's 10pm and you have a bunch of grown adults dressed up in black screaming at federal officials in the middle of the night, it's kind of interesting to film, especially if you're a journalist. So I was there to do that. They were getting upset at me because I was pointing my camera and filming them, just simply filming the news. And they tried to come and intimidate me. And at that point, I was like, okay, all right, gloves are off. Let's go ahead and go here. Let's, let's have a conversation. And then this girl who refused to follow federal orders got some bare mace to the face. So maybe, maybe listen to the feds, my friends, in some cases.
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So you bring up an interesting point. I, I, and, and maybe it's not worth trying to get into the more rational side of people and their behavior and how they decide to do things, but I always think, what's the point if you're here? One, why is it always super late at night? Like, I feel like, I don't know, you can go protest the facility during normal working hours. That would, you know, be advantageous to your sleep schedule. But also the, the idea of, like, hey, we're here to make a big scene, but also don't record it because we don't want people to see the big scene. Am I too, like, am I trying to dig too much into how these people think? They've also, for example, too, they have these signs, right? They filled up these signs that say all these ridiculous kind of stuff, but then a lot of them carry umbrellas so that you can't see the sign. Which I go, what's the point of making a sign? What is the, what is the rationale going on in these people's heads? Or are they not even thinking about that sort of thing in your experience?
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Yeah, they're not the brightest bunch, but, I mean, the Trump administration rightly did deemed them a domestic terrorist organization because the reason they do go out at night and the reason why they are bringing these umbrellas, for example, is so that way, if they're committing criminal activities, they can open those umbrellas up and nobody can film them doing it. So they can kind of help hide their comrades as they're committing these felony acts. And y. I mean they've been fomenting chaos in Portland since 2020. And keep in mind too, this isn't something that's centralized to just Portland, Oregon. They have factions all over the United States of America, from the west coast to the east coast. This has been a huge problem and it has led to Americans being killed. Like I said, threatened, intimidated. I myself was beaten and mobbed by antifa in Austin, Texas back in 2021 during the riots. And you know, oftentimes too, it's very unfortunate, but the police will kind of look the other way because they know that either they're super defunded, the district court judges are just going to let them out the next day, or they, I don't know if they really are scared of these people or they just feel like their hands are so tied that it's not even worth going after them. But for example, like Katie Davis court last week was basically beaten by these people. She has a huge black eye. They used a flagpole as a bat and hit her in the face. She chased down her own assailant, basically handed them over to Portland police on a silver platter. And the police were just like, okay, thanks and then just let the person walk away. And it's like, that is the police force over there. And that was the police during 2021 as well. Which is why these groups feel so emboldened because particularly in liberal cities, the law is not enacted, it's not enforced. And you do have groups like this one that take over entire city blocks. And if you are in a law abiding citizen who wants to maybe sleep at 2am instead of hearing somebody scream about how much they hate Trump outside of an ISOCI facility, well, that's just too bad.
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Yeah, it's, it is wild to see the, and then to the, the idea that, okay, we're enforcing the law, that means it's a fascist regime. No, enforcing the law is just enforcing the law. If you don't like the law, vote people into office to change the law. But the American people like order and I think they're doing obviously big damage to their own credibility and reputation and not actually making the point they think they're making. Savannah Hernandez, again, like as always, stay safe on the ground when you go over there and you know, do, do the thing that is necessary to be done to expose all of these people. But again, very dangerous to say the least. Thanks so much for taking the time.
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Thanks for having me, Joe.
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Bob, thank you. Coming up next here on Turning Point tonight, going to check in with Monica Page. Turning Points White House correspondent. Don't go away. We'll be right back after the break. Foreign welcome back to Turning Point. Tonight, we're together. We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. You can email the show anytime you want. Tbtpusa.com love seeing each and every one of your emails. And I have started responding to some of them, not to all of them because there's so many that email. But I maybe, maybe might get to yours. But I do love reading a lot of them. TPTP USA.com let's check in with Earning points. White House correspondent Monica Page over there at the White House. Looks like a blustery, overcast ish day. Monica. So I'm not I'm not entirely sure this joke is going to land, but it is not June, so it's not Pride Month. And yet, for some reason, the Canadian prime minister is still visiting the White House. I assume that that that would be the general time in which the Canadian prime minister does visit, but apparently they visit all other times of year. Mark Carney, the prime minister of Canada, is at the White House today. What do you think him and President Trump talked about and what was the kind of reception that the Canadian guy got from the White House?
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Sure. Well, of course, Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney arrived here around 11:55am Eastern Time. He left here around 2:30pm Eastern Time. And President Trump and the prime minister both had conversations surrounding tariffs. As we stand right now, Canada has about a 35% tariff on them overall. That doesn't include anything like steel, automobiles, anything sort of like that. But overall, 35% tariffs. So they're kind of talking about how to make each nation stronger, how to work together for the future. Of course, global concerns like Israel, Hamas and Russia, Ukraine, and also the ongoing issue of fentanyl. The president was also pressed on the issue of fentanyl in the Oval Office just this afternoon. One of the reporters asked, you know, what's the state of fentanyl as it stands right now and the flow of fentanyl from our northern border? And the president said, well, it's not good and it doesn't really look like it's letting up, unfortunately. But he did say that Mark Carney has been doing a better job than his predecessor in stopping the flow of fentanyl. But it still remains a huge problem. And of course, the president has been very staunch and cracking down on the flow and just the flow and import of fentanyl coming into this country, as we've seen previously through his narco terror attacks. But then another huge impact on our country is the northern border as well, even not only fentanyl, but immigration and illegal immigration as well. So president also cracking down on that, but the two still had conversation regarding tariffs. That just really seems to be the elephant in the room when it comes to that.
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Oh yeah, 100%. I would imagine that Mark Carney is not thrilled but at the same time has almost zero leverage, which is always interesting. You talked about the, the war in the Middle East, Israel, hamas. This is October 7th, the two year, I don't know if you call something tragic an anniversary, but I guess it's been two years to the day since there have been some hostages who have visited the White House, I believe beforehand. But there's another one coming today. Can you kind of tell us about that? But also, I mean more broadly, President Trump's position, he's kind of setting some hardline dates with Hamas. Now who, who've said we totally agree except for a bunch of these major issues which I'm not entirely sure how that works. But more broadly, the, the Hamas, Israel conflict, but also the hostages visiting the White House today.
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Yeah, Eden Alexander, he was held hostage by hamas for about 584 days. He was actually believed to be the last living hostage until more information came out. There's still 48 more hostages. We don't know how many exactly are alive or how many exactly are dead. But there are still a couple dozen more left, unfortunately. And the president's been working so hard to try and get each and every hostage out. Of course, we saw that 20 point peace plan that was announced just last week. We're still waiting on more information regarding where that peace plan stands. If Hamas is accepting it. They're only accepting certain terms and conditions like you alluded to, Joe Bob. But still the private discussions are underway still continuously each day that goes on. I'm sure the president continues to be briefed on an ongoing situation in the Middle east. But yeah, it'll be interesting so far that event, event as we, as it stands right now, I think it's just going to be closed off to the press. I'm sure we'll probably get some pictures and videos later as your show airs tonight. We'll get some more information regarding that. But still, it still remains to be a hot button issue for the president. And I mean we'll see. We'll see how this turns out. But it's definitely a very busy day for the president, as it always is, as I'm sure you know.
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Yeah. And of course, everybody's rooting for President Trump's peace deal to be accepted by everybody so that the war ends. Monica, this is, I didn't, didn't warn you about this, but I'm actually just curious about you as an anecdotal part of our overall experience. If you're driving through Washington, D.C. or riding the Metro or whatever it is that you do, how you travel and somebody makes a terrible driving mistake and they have a political bumper sticker that you don't agree with, does that change how you view that driver?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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I don't even have to think about it, and it definitely changes how I treat that driver. So I'm not going to be very nice to that person.
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We talked about this a little bit earlier in the show, but thank you for reiterating the fact that. Yeah. Political. Well, the study is that the people who have different political views and the bumper sticker on that car, if they cut that person off, they're going to be more mad if they're like, if they've got an Obama Biden sticker or a Harris wall.
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We see a lot of those here. They don't even have have to be making a driving mistake. They could be driving with their mask on and I'm still going to abuse them. That's just how it goes. Maybe that's just the East Coaster in me, but I just get really aggressive.
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I'm glad. Thank you for being honest. I had a little bit different of a take, but I appreciate the honesty, especially as we include your anecdotal data in our very scientific experiment on whether or not bumper stickers actually cause more, more of an issue than not. Monica Page, thanks so much for reporting. Really appreciate you taking the time.
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Thanks, guys.
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Thank you. You know, speaking of the White House and how they're reacting to the shutdown, it's fascinating to see how many people, how many people in Congress, because, remember, Congress's pay doesn't get turned off during a government shutdown, which means they have no incentive to actually get the ball rolling other than pressure from the American people. And the American people have no idea that a shutdown is even happening because nobody actually cares. Congress, however, still gets their paycheck, like we mentioned, and it's fascinating to see who is continuing to have their paycheck and more specifically why kind of the general names have been thrown around. Elizabeth Warren, senator from Massachusetts, said, yeah, I'm going to keep getting my paycheck. Senator Amy Klobuchar is the same. But I thought this was fascinating because there was a little bit more of a reasoning as to why Senator Ruben Gallego from Arizona, you'll see pictured here, and he kind of, kind of just looks like the kind of guy that would do this. Said, you know, I'm, I'm not wealthy. I have three kids. That means missing, you know, mortgage payments, rent payments, child support. So, you know, it's not feasible. It's not going to happen. First thing I would like to say is, does a U.S. senator who makes like, like close to $200,000 a year live paycheck to paycheck? I, I seriously, you can't afford to miss one paycheck, which, by the way, is going to get paid to you afterward. What kind of lifestyle are you living to where missing one paycheck in order to be able to stand with the American people by not taking your paycheck? Remember, military members are not getting paid. Their payment has to be deferred. But this sender can't because he's got like life expenses. You don't have enough money saved up. Well, the type of person that would do that is the same type of person that would probably leave his wife when she's nine months pregnant, which Senator Ruben, Ruben Gallego also did. Which makes more sense as to how this guy who apparently lives his life like a, like a drug addict who's living by the skin of his teeth every single day, as to why he can't defer his payments again, like the brave men and women in the US Military are deferring their payments. Uh, I don't want to run on too long here. Basically, I just wanted to get that point on what, what kind of lives are these people living to where Unlike Ted Cruz who came on last week and talked about the fact that he was deferring his payments, you can't afford to miss one paycheck. Ruben, we're gonna play some interesting videos coming up here after the break. Email tptp USA.com we will be right back after, after this. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback through the mockery of bad, terrible lib ideas. Is you can email the show anytime you want tbtpusa.com unfortunately, we're not gonna have time to get to a ton of them today, but tptp USA.com I would like to see Again, the license question that we asked earlier in the show. What is it? Sorry, not the license, the bumper sticker question that we asked earlier in the show. I'd love to Hear your responses. TPTP USA.com right now let's check in with our lib friends who are very, very weird and yet calling us weird. I want to play you this clip from a congressional press conference in which the Republicans are being blamed for being weird. Republicans are so weird. Go ahead and play that. The Republican Party is obsessed with culture war issues. It is weird and it is bizarre. And the American people deserve serious legislators.
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Serious elected officials who are focused on.
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Bringing people together to deliver real results for the American people. God does those Republicans are so weird. Says the dude in a dress. I don't know. Therefore I will. It's so. This is a total tangent on tangent on tangent. I keep telling you to subscribe to our YouTube channel, which you should turning point tonight on YouTube but also keep watching on RAV because we can't play this on YouTube because we'll get thrown off of YouTube for accurately assessing the fact that that was a dude in a dress calling us weird for caring about it. Yeah, I do care about it. It's. It is weird. You're correct, it is weird. I think it's weird. But the fact that we care about it is not weird because what you're doing is weird. Then we're gonna accurately call weird weird feeling. I've said weird too many times. Speaking of weird and also not weird, but also just so not okay. Uh, but apparently, you know, libs are okay with violence. I guess even mainstreaming libs are okay with violence. Uh, is this. This is a Democratic congressional candidate for North Carolina District 9. I guess his name is Richard Odeg. Ode. O.J. odjed Aja. I don't know what his name is, but watch this and try not to be horrified as I am. Check this out. Thanks. Stephen Miller. Stephen Miller needs to be thumped. That guy's a friggin worm. I would be willing to go to jail for. I mean, how much would I get for just tracking him a couple times? You know, I'd be willing to go to jail to kick out of him. I'd be more than happy to find myself in an elevator with him and I'd whoop his ass from the first floor to the fifth floor and be happy to go to jail. Cool. So on the backs of what's his name? J. Jones in Virginia, I think. Senator Tim Kaine. We didn't play this Clip here, but said, no, I still support the guy who said, I'm gonna put two bullets in the back of my Republican colleague's head on the back of not disavowing that guy. We also have this guy who says, I'll beat up Stephen Miller in an elevator. I hope I get. I hope I get in an elevator with Stephen Miller so I can kick his ass and go to jail for it. Cool. All right. Again, the hyperbole that is being that we're being accused of, like, hey, libs are violent, um, seems to kind of get played out continually over and over again. I'm not sure at what point we're supposed to pretend that that's not happening. That feels very. That's actually weird. It's weird that we're supposed to pretend. Yeah. It's equal amounts, both sides. Yeah. Political violence should be condemned regardless of what side you're on. But also pretending that it's coming from the same from both sides equally is very, very weird. I don't know who would actually think that. Apparently, libs are okay with violence, which is not good for us, the American people. It's discouraging. Sometimes I should. I'm sorry for ending the show on a discouraging note. That's my fault. Go ahead and send your emails, tptp USA.com let us know how we can better the show, including by me not ending the show on such a downer of a guy who's running for Congress, saying he's more than willing to beat up a key member of the administration and go to jail for it, because that's. That's insane. Again, I'm sorry for ending it on a damper, but feel free to Criticize me@tptbusa.com that is going to do it for us today. Um, we'll see you tomorrow, same time, same place. Thursday I'll be in North Dakota with Glenn Beck. If you're in the area, would love to see you. See you tomorrow. God bless America. Go. This is an I Heart podcast.