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The New York Times has lost its mind and we all know that's already true. But it's been confirmed yet again in the wake of J.D. vance hosting Charlie Kirk's show yesterday. They freaked out again. Who is surprised? Also, the Emmys happened over the weekend and one massive component of culture was missing. I can guarantee you can guess what that is, but we'll talk about what that means as far as the significance on American culture. We are continuing to chart the course of America's cultural comeback here at Turning Point tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. This is Turning Point tonight and before we get to our stories today, I got to remind everyone you can email the show tptpusa.com it has been a flood of emails, messages, social media or otherwise that have been sent in TPTP USA.com people with their stories and memories and reminiscing on Charlie and well wishes to the Kirk family. Those can all go there. We will try again today, time permitting to read some of those again. TPTP USA.com the first thing I would like to address that needs to be addressed because people, everybody needs to know how to combat this. If the argument were to ever present itself to you in real life and that is the ridiculous lib argument of oh well this is just conservative cancel culture. I have of course talking about the firings of people who celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk and them no longer being employed at the place that they work. We've seen this across a number of different companies. Microsoft, be One of them, Perkins, Coy qua, whatever you want to call it, the North Carolina Panthers fired some staff over what they've said. Plenty of different companies have now parted ways with people that refuse to not celebrate the assassination or the murder of my friend, your friend, Charlie Kirk, which is disgusting. Office Depot, nasdaq, if you haven't seen that Office Depot clip where they refuse to print a photo of Charlie saying, well, this is political propaganda and we don't, we don't print that here. It is disgusting and disturbing to watch, but I hope that you find solace in the fact that those people no longer work at that place. Now, when it comes to what the difference is, it's this. It's very simple. It's truth. Now, for example, let's just take two things that society has agreed on since, well, forever. Just, just for example here, one, a man is a man and not a woman, and two, a, well, murder is bad. Those two things are true. We can all agree on them. Society has agreed on them since the dawn of time, or at least since people have been discussing morals and ethics and characteristics of a functioning civilization. Now, the accusation being thrown at conservatives now is, well, if you're getting these people fired for what they said, doesn't that contradict what you were talking about all those years ago when people were getting fired on your side for what they said, isn't that like a shoe on the other foot? Isn't that ironic? Isn't that the opposite of what you believe? Well, the answer is no, because of truth. See, society agrees on these two things. When people were getting fired for saying, hey, a man is a man and therefore not a woman and therefore they shouldn't use the bathrooms, we were all upset about that because that person was being unjustly forced to face consequences for saying things that are just true, agreeing with the societal truth. Now, when people are celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk, when they're celebrating murder, they are effectively saying, well, no, no, no, murder is not bad, which is a societal truth. Instead, it's actually good. They're getting fired not because of any sort of cancel culture, because they have a misalignment with the societal truth. And therefore the consequence of that is society as a whole saying, yeah, we don't want anything to do with you whatsoever. It's not some sort of double sided, well, this is, this is what you said then. And this was, you know, it's a completely different thing. If you have an opinion, that's one thing. If you say something that goes completely against what the entirety of society believes it's not an opinion, and therefore you have to face the consequences of, again, dealing with society that no longer wants to deal with you. That is the argument. The difference that we express is truth. And if people disagree with the societal truth, they have to face the consequences of doing that. The only reason we said, hey, that's not fair to is because people that we like that are on our side, that acknowledge reality, we're saying things that were true, they agreed with truth, and were being unjustly put through consequences because of that. If you're going to reject a societal truth and celebrate a death and say, no, actually, murder is a good thing, it's not an opinion. That's just a misalignment with the reality around you. And I wish I could feel more bad for these folks. Actually, no, I don't. Who am I kidding? I don't feel bad for them at all. I hope, though, that they get the help that they need. And, you know, I'd be willing to accept apologies. That doesn't necessarily mean they avoid all consequences, but apologies are welcome. If you have such a deranged opinion that murder for some reason is good. Um, outside of those heartfelt, sincere, genuine apologies, I'm on JD Vance's side with this, as I'm sure all of you are. There is no uniting with. With evil in any way, shape or form. Now, just to highlight this a little bit more, I wanted to dive in to a specific case. There are honestly too many of these. We can do one or two of these a day for the next year and a half and never get finished with all of them. But I wanted to highlight this specific instance that I thought was really, really interesting. The Washington Post apparently fired some lady named Karen Attia. I have no idea of her work. I have no idea of anything that she's ever done. All I know is that she's angry that she got fired from the Washington Post. Now, the question is, was her firing justified? If you look specifically to her, which many news outlets have Politico, I think the Hill just had. Well, this is her response to her being fired. You will find things like this. On Monday, she posted to her subtack, and I'm gonna read it in my oh, no voice. As a columnist, I used my voice to defend freedom and democracy, challenge power, and reflect on culture and politics with honesty and conviction. Now I'm being silenced for doing my job. Oh, really, Karen? Is that why you're being silenced? Is that why you're being fired from the Washington Post. Well, interestingly enough, on several of the articles that you'll read coming up, you won't actually see what she said. But good news, the Internet is fore. So we have that she said on Blue sky, refusing to tear my clothes and smear hashes on my face and performative mourning for a white man who espoused violence is not the same as violence. Well, one to comment on the last part of that. Yeah, your people did the violence. So I guess it's technically not the same as the people on your own side. I'm not sure how you square that in your head, but to, you know, okay, find me the clip of Charlie espousing violence. And I'm not talking about your made up violence. Words are violent. Speech or violence. That's not a real thing. And we all agree that that's not a real thing. I'm talking about physical violence. Charlie wanting someone to be injured or hurt or harmed or even killed for their thoughts. I guarantee you you won't find him. So that is either a lie or you're just so stupid you don't know that it is a lie. She went on on Substack to say this. My only direct reference to Kirk was one post his own words on record. Uh, she then included a screenshot. She said this. This is the quote that she's saying. This is the only thing I said. And it was his own words. She said, do not have brain. Black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously. You had to steal a white person's slot. Wow. Wait, what, what an awful quote that is. I wonder if that's in context and saying the things that she's meaning it to say. Well, good news, we have the clip and I'd like to play that clip for you right now. This is Charlie from the Charlie Kirk show saying the things that she said. She he said, but clearly not the way that she's claims that he said them. Check this out.
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Charlie Kirk
You really have to wonder, in fact, you know, if, if we would have said three weeks ago, Blake, if we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called the racist. But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us. They're coming out and they're saying, I'm only here because affirmative action. Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person slot to go be taken somewhat seriously. Play cut 52.
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Rick
Okay, before we play that, and I do want to play that. Yeah. Case in point, he wasn't saying that. He thinks that he's saying that. You're effectively saying that because you say, well, I only got here because affirmative action, what you're effectively then saying is diminishing the value of the people that you claim to help. That's the whole thing, that's the whole argument. So maybe, maybe Ms. Karen Atia, whatever her name is, maybe he got fired. Well, maybe in part because of the horrible things you say. You refuse to cry over a white man because that is makes a difference for any sort of reason. Maybe you got fired cause you're a bad journalist. Maybe in the 10 year tenure that this lady had at the Washington Post, everybody at the Washington Post was going, hey, she's not very good at her job. She was hired only because she was a DEI hire. We wouldn't otherwise have hired her, but she happens to be a black woman. And therefore, yeah, you know, we gotta meet quotas because the whole racial injustice thing or whatever that is, maybe that's the reason she got fired. Maybe she got fired because she was so bad at her job, she would say something so irresponsible and think, hey, the Internet exists. We have the clip that you're referencing here and we know that that's not what he said. I want to continue playing that clip because he's talking about a congresswoman here and that Congresswoman. I just thought this was also interesting to, to basically reiterate the point. We think that people saying they needed affirmative action diminishes their own value. And all we're doing is repeating that. Watch this.
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Anthony Raimondi
But I rise today as a clear recipient of affirmative affirmative action, particularly in higher education. I may have been admitted on affirmative action both in terms of being a woman and a woman of color, but I can declare that I did not graduate on affirmative action. This is my personal story.
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Rick
Okay, well, it's hard to believe the second part of that if you're going to admit the first part of that. I got in on affirmative action. I got in because not only am I a woman, I'm a woman of color, but I didn't graduate because of affirmative action. Oh, totally. Yeah, yeah. During the admissions process, what you don't understand is they, they admit people that are below the line in which they would admit people. But while they're at school, there's no, you know, denigration of what they need to do to accomplish the schooling process and graduate with degree. That, that there's no way that would ever happen. But like he said, the entire thing hinges on the fact that there are people out there that say, yeah, I got in on affirmative action. How much of it is it a crime to then say, okay, well, yeah, we, we know and therefore we can judge you on a, on a different scale because you didn't have to come in on the same scale as everybody else. That's all he was saying. And the lady that got fired from the Washington Post either should have known that or was just lying. Either way, I think it makes it so that she shouldn't be a journalist. That's kind of the whole thing. Yeah. The whole race commentary was bad. And on top of that, in her response, she proved that she was unfit for the job that she had. Again, probably, maybe even possibly, possibly, maybe even probably that was because of a DEI in the first place. So there's that there's a lot of stuff to get to. We've got the firing of a Microsoft guy. It'll be a little bit more light hearted, but still, you know, in reverence of Charlie Kirk, who's a man we all knew and love. But setting the record straight is what we're going to be doing today. I, Rick, I recognize the format here is a little bit different. We're not as hokey, we're not as, you know, fun about the news because there is some serious things that need to be talked about. We talked about this last week. We're going to discuss it at some point and that time has come so further on. We're going to talk about the, the Emmys, which was really interesting. We're going to talk to conservative ants about some of the particulars of his relationship with Charlie and his movements relationship with Charlie. We're also going to watch some hilarious videos of some libs getting fired because again, they disagreed with the truth that society has set forward and therefore have to face the consequences of society not wanting to deal with them. Don't go away. We'll be right back after the break with Robinhood. Not only can you trade individual stocks and ETFs, you can also seamlessly buy and sell crypto at low costs. Trade all in one place. Get started now on Robinhood Trading. Crypto involves significant risk. Crypto trading is offered through an account with a Robinhood Crypto llc. Robinhood crypto is licensed to to engage in virtual currency business activity by the New York State Department of Financial Services. Crypto held through Robinhood crypto is not FDIC insured or SIPC protected Investing involves risk, including loss of principal. Securities trading is offered through an account with Robinhood Financial LLC member sipc, a registered broker dealer. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. TPTPUSA.com is the email. It's been fantastic to go through all of the different emails. People with well wishes and memories of Charlie. Again, we'll try to get to some of those towards the end of the show if time permits. There's a lot of stuff to get to, a lot of stuff to talk about. Now I gotta gotta tell you about a programming discussion that happened in the middle of the commercial. The clip that we had queued up was not necessarily the one that I thought at the time, it was. Now I do want to play this for one specific reason and that is because several people that I know and respect too got duped by this. And the reason is not their fault. I don't think it's their fault. I think it's the fact that this is so convincing and apparently not fake. Sorry, apparently it is fake, but that's hard to know because what parody is impossible nowadays with the insanity on the left. We told you we're gonna talk about a video from Microsoft. But again, during the commercial break is brought to our attention that this video is parody on although you might not know, and several people I know didn't know before playing it on their show. Watch this. We're going to play it, it's an entirety and we'll discuss.
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Anthony Raimondi
I made some stupid comments about Charlie Kirk on the day that he was shot. I said some things on Blue sky and on threads that I. I'm sorry, not sorry for, but I said them and I deleted them when it was requested that I do so by my employer. And then today on a weekend, on a weekend I'm told that I am no longer employed at Microsoft.
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Rick
After six.
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Anthony Raimondi
Years building the diversity, equity and inclusion department from scratch.
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Rick
That's okay, I lose my job and kill this. I think we've because one of you well enough. That was the part where we probably should have been like, oh yeah, this, this seems fishy. Is the. That's too good, that's too rich. So just so you all know, we had this video queued up and then just as a part of his due diligence to producer Glenn said, shoot, this video isn't actually real. Which again is more indicative of the fact that there are videos like that that are real. So we scrambled, we found a couple other of those that are like that which to you in a second. But again, further proving the point that sometimes parody is impossible in a world that is so absurd as it is now, if you would have told me this is believe this is 100% legit, I would have believed you. Now, earlier we said that Mark, Microsoft hasn't fired employees. They have. But it wasn't that guy. That guy was doing a sketch, which unfortunately, in our world of modern absurd insanity, you can't really tell. It's hard to tell. And I really wonder, maybe we should have done this in a different way. But I really wonder if we just played that, been upset about it, and then said it was parody, how many of you would have gone, no, that's. That's legit. That makes. That makes a lot of sense. He's got the nose ring. He was the DEI guy. He's posting a video like this. Hilarious. What's not hilarious is people that are actually posting things, that are actually saying the cruel and awful things. Not as a parody, not mocking the. Well, actually, these are the folks that this guy was mocking. This is a professor at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, Tamara Shinierian. I don't know how to pronounce it. I don't care. Graphic 1. Glenn, go and pull that up. She's been fired after her viral post celebrating Charlie's death. Now, let's just read this post. I know this might make you a little bit angry, might feel a little bit of emotion here, but a professor at a university in the anthropology department, so I guess maybe not really a professor, said this. The world is better off without him. Even those who are claiming it's sad for his wife and kids, like his kids are better off living in a world without a disgusting psychopath like him and his wife, well, she's a sick F for marrying him. I don't care about her feelings. Okay? Like we mentioned earlier in the beginning, this is the type of person that we just don't want in our society. Not that. Not to say that, you know, we want anything bad to happen to her. That's not what I'm saying at all. But as a part of the civil civic discourse, nope, don't eat them. As a part of the workforce, nope, don't eat them. I also got a ton of flack from this from the libertarians on the Internet the other day I called for, hey, if somebody loses their job because they are glorifying the assassination of a political figure, let alone a husband and father, they should not get government benefits either. How about that? How about you get fired. And, you know, you don't get food stamps. You don't get housing vouchers. You don't get any of the things that the government provides to people who get fired or find themselves unemployed. Now, my argument to that would. I don't think that should exist for anybody. But because it does exist, let's at least set some parameters and some limits. That was the problem I got. Well, the government can't decide who gets these benefits and who doesn't. Oh, yeah, how about this? Nobody gets the benefits, but specifically those people. Specifically the people that are celebrating something so heinous and so horrible. Maybe those people don't get the benefits. And you know what that would require them to do? It would force them back into the original charity, which would be the church, which would be exactly what Charlie would have wanted. So people like that exists, be careful, because they are around you. This is the thing with my wife and I have said over and over again, the most disturbing part of this is these people exist among us, which is scary to think about when you're walking around thinking, oh, my gosh, this is more prevalent than I would have thought. But in addition to that, we got this clip from another guy who, again, this is real. This is a guy who has been now suspended for posting a video like this celebrating Charlie's murder. Clip 7.
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Anthony Raimondi
The man who hated the LGBTQ community, who hated women's rights, who hated democracy, who thought that he was a big man because he went to college campuses.
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Rick
And debated college students and thought he proved how tough he was with his.
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Anthony Raimondi
Words that he studied ahead of time. What a piece of garbage. This is what happens.
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Rick
Go ahead and stay on this clip, Glenn. I want to. I want to see this. This bozo's face. What's his name? Benjamin Philo is a teacher at a high school in the Barrington High School community. Barrington school community sent out an email saying, hey, we were informing parents that he is on paid administration leave, although there are students now taking to the classroom saying he should be fired. But again, to the point, what kind of argument is this? Like, what kind of argument is. Okay, well, he hated the lgbtq. We'll actually address that in a segment further down the line with the conservative ant, because I do think that is necessary to discuss, considering Charlie is being called all of the ists, misogynist, homophobic, all of the things that are not true, just being labeled as such. What does he go on to say? Then? He talks about, oh, women's rights, women's health care. I. That's my favorite argument not to go on too much of a tangent. Women's health care is at risk. Oh, yeah. Like if my wife sprains her ankle all of a sudden she's not gonna be able to get care. No, no, tell. Call it. Tell it what it really is. Call it what you really is, you sickos. Killing babies. That's. That's what this actually is. Women's health here. But then to make the grander point that he's making. Oh, sorry. Before that, he said to. I can't. Thinking he's a big man because he's going on college campuses, that he's studied and prepared for this. Yeah, you should do that too. Do you not. Do you not read ahead of time and like, study for questions that you might be asked by students in your classroom? There's a factor right there. Just like the lady in the Washington Post should have gotten fired not because of what she posted, but because she's bad at her job. Maybe this guy who apparently thinks that that is an anomaly. Yeah, this guy going to college campuses just saying things that he learned from reading. Who does that? You should be doing that, dude. That's kind of the whole point of being a teacher and an educator. But then to his broader term of a. Oh, this is what you get. Okay, cool. I mean, we could be furious and disgusted and horrified, and I am. But also, this is just a telltale sign of like, yeah, we don't. We don't need you in the workforce and we don't want to. Sure as heck don't want to be paying for whatever subsidies that you might be getting while out of the workforce. A civil society that is agreed upon a certain norm and a certain truth needs to uphold that truth. And if they can't and people like this go unpunished by going on paid administrative leave. We will update you, by the way, in case that has changed. Throughout the course of this week against students have been clamoring for this guy to be fired, which he should be because he disagrees with one of the fundamental truths of our society, that murder is bad, which everybody agrees with. We'll keep you updated on whether or not that changes. But people like out people like this guy exist. Not much else more to say than that. It's horrifying, it's disgusting. And I can't help but be appreciative of the folks that are doing the work to expose all of the people in our society that are not, quote unquote, getting canceled for their opinion because again, disagreeing with Truth is not an opinion. I'm super grateful for the folks that are doing all of the work to make sure people are getting held accountable, not by their opinions, but the way that they view the world. And like I said, a number of times, I do hope they change the mind. There is a place for redemption. There is a place for people to genuinely reverse course. And Charlie, of all people, would be the first person to welcome that. But they do have to show contrition. They do have to show that yes, we made a mistake and we genuinely recognize that mistake and we would like acceptance going forward. But until then, bye bye, adios. Whatever, whatever term you want to use to say that society is not better with you. A part of it doesn't mean I want any violence. That doesn't mean I want anything to do with that. I'm simply saying that the firing of folks that are like this are really, you know, to protect the people that work at that place from individuals who have such a deranged outlook on the world. So can't say I'm sorry, but it's a, it's a reality of truth. Love it or hate it, I currently love it at this moment, despite the, the horror, horrific tragedy it is, it is somewhat heartening to see how society can bounce back and just completely eliminate this sort of just grotesque insanity. Ranted on that for probably longer than I was supposed to, but we will be right back after the break. I want to discuss the Emmys and what they didn't mention on the. The. Their cultural award show over the weekend. I'm sure you could probably guess, but if not, don't go away. We'll be right back after the break. 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So again, TPTP USA.com if you want to send those well wishes or memories along. You know, I wanted to talk about the. Well, we've been talking specifically a lot about how some of the crazy people on the lib side of the aisle are acting in response to, again, a heinous murder and assassination of Charlie Kirk. What is interesting is seeing how some of the mainstream media is responding to our response from this. Yesterday, J.D. vance, the Vice President United States, hosted Charlie's podcast slash radio show and said things that I think we all agree to be true. During the last segment of yesterday's show, we showed JD Vance saying there is no unity between people who disagree fundamentally with reality. Obviously put it in much nicer terms and probably pinpointed a little bit better, but that's what effectively was saying, hey, if you don't agree with the truth and therefore you can justify murder, there's no unity with that toward a person. There is unity with people who disagree with us. There's unity between folks who think, yeah, you know, I think the government should do this versus this, but also agree, yeah, you shouldn't be killing people. There shouldn't be political assassinations. There could be unity with those folks. The unity around, yeah, let's not murder each other in cold blood for our difference in belief, but there can't be unity with people who don't agree with with that. And therefore there was a lot of refrain from using some of the terminology that I think I'd like to use, but there was A lot of discussion on the lib side of the aisle. And I thought this piece from the New York Times was particularly interesting. Now, remember, I just said, J.D. vance said, we have all said we can agree on different things and how they look in regards to how we think the country should be run. What we can't disagree on is whether or not the fundamental values not murdering each other for our political beliefs is bad. We have to agree that that is bad. And if we can't, there's no way forward. Encompassed in the people that we can disagree with civilly but still respect are liberals. That's just the reality of it. Liberals can be encompassed in that, especially if they believe that political assassination is bad. This is a New York Times headline that I'm curious to see if you think leads up to that or, or fulfills that idea of hey, liberals can be in the fold of decent moderate society. When they say this. The White House plans to plans broad crackdown on liberal groups. Did anybody say that? Did anybody say, broadly speaking, we're just going to start cracking down on liberals? Who. Or did they be precise with their language and precision and language is what we've been talking about a lot on this show lately. Or did J.T. vance say. No, no, the radicals? Did President Trump say the radicals? Because that's what they're saying. Yet the New York Times says broad crackdown on liberal groups. Some of the highest ranking officials says the New York Times and the federal government used Charlie Kirk's podcast, guest hosted by President J.D. vance, to lay out their plans. President Trump and his top advisers threatened on Monday to unleash the power of the federal government to punish what they allege is left wing network funds that incite violence. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, we should do that. Now I would guarantee you though that President Trump would not say that. The people that incite violence, that think violence is okay, are not encompassed in the broad lefty movement. But that's what the New York Times says. That's the language that they use. They specifically say funds that incite violence. Investigator. Oh, there's is just a line. This is a throwaway line that I thought was just fascinating. Investigators are still working to identify the motive of the death of Mr. Kirk. Okay, I don't, we don't even need to dive into that discussion. I think despite anything, let's just, let's just take all of that evidence out of it. What we saw was an entire Internet response celebrating, which is just as bad in my opinion. Maybe not just as bad, but it's 95% of the way there. So that is what it is. Interestingly enough, people in Congress started weighing in. This is again in the New York Times. They report that Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut said, pay attention. The murder of Charlie Kerr could have united. United Americans to confront political violence. Instead, President Trump and his anti Democratic radicals look to be readying a campaign to destroy dissent. To. Is that really what they're doing? Saying, hey, the radical leftists that promote violence, we can all agree that that's bad. Instead, Senator Murphy says they're crushing dissent, destroying dissent. All right. Congressman Greg Casser says of Trump he cannot be allowed to use the horrible murder of Charlie Kirk as a pretext to go after peaceful political opposition. Again, nobody is doing that. Are the, are the folks that are going after the, the peaceful political opposition in the room with us now, Congressman Caster? Is that. Are they among us as we speak? Because clearly they're the delusions in your own head. Because no one is freaking saying that. And it's hard to not laugh at this because it's so ridiculous and absurd. But the problem is that this is. These are people with actual power. These are people with voices in our government. Government saying things that are objectively not true. And interestingly enough, if you go further down in the New York Times, they even say the true thing. This is again from that article in the New York Times saying the White House plans broader crackdown on liberal groups when that is not what happened. They said, we're going to, we're going to go after the radicals that are inciting violence. But again, they choose to encompass all liberals in that. And the senator and the congressman seem to agree. This is also from that article. 2 Senior administrative administration officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the internal planning, said the cabinet secretaries and federal department heads were working to identify organizations that funded or supported violence against conservatives. Yeah, unless, of course, you're burying the lead here. And all liberal groups support violence against conservatives. That's not what we're talking about. Unless, of course, it is. Unless it's an admission. Unless Senator Murphy or unless Congressman Caster are admitting that all liberals want to do violence against conservatives, which I don't believe, by the way. I'm just trying to prove a point. Unless they're admitting that all the things that they said are a lie. Everything they said is trying to create political fervor on their own side using the pretext to go after peaceful political opposition, says Congressman Caster, when in the article that he's quoted in saying that says, yeah, supported and funding violence against conservatives. That's what the president is going after. And they should, by the way, they should go after people that are funding and supporting political violence against their ideological opposites. That should happen and I'm glad that they are doing that. But for the New York Times and for the senator and congressman, among many others, I'm sure to try and twist it as well. Liberals more broadly are going to be affected by this. People who are just peacefully protesting and saying that those people are also in the fold of the folks that like violence. Either one is an admission or two is a bold face lie. Don't have any other way to put it. You want to talk about being responsible in your language, take some of your own advice. New York Times, we write back after the break. We're going to discuss the Charlie Kirk impact with Anthony Raimondi, conservative ants. We're also going to talk about the Emmys. I know we've been promised to talk about that. That'll be right back. That'll be after the break. Don't go away. I'll be right back. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where we are still charting the course of America's cultural comeback. You can email the show tptpusa.com if you've got memories of Charlie or well wishes tptpusa.com, we've loved seeing every single one of the emails come through and hopefully time permitting, we'll get to some of those at the end of the show. I want to talk to a guy who hates being called an influencer, but he has a huge amount of influence. Almost a million followers on Instagram, conservative. And Anthony Raimondi, who's a friend of rav, friend of the network, also a friend of Charlie. Anthony, we've been kind of just talking to people just broadly and generically about Charlie and his impact on you. What was, what was Charlie to you? We'll give you the floor and kind of open it up as broadly as you want it to be.
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Anthony Raimondi
Yeah, thanks. Thanks for having me on. You know, Charlie was an inspiration to people who had different opinions and he really broke down things for me and helped me understand stuff that maybe I didn't. And he was the most non confrontational person I think in our entire movement. I mean he was always the voice of reason, right? He, he would bring people to the front and have them talk and say let, let them talk. Whereas I'm not as calm or calculated. So like the fact that he's considered controversial is like insanely wild. To me, and, and that's why I think it hits like all of us so much is because it was like if anyone like Charlie was the guy you wanted to end up running into because he would let you, anybody talk. So it's hard. I mean, it's like every day, it's like every time you talk about him, it's. It's like heavy.
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Rick
Yeah, it's. You know, when, when we went to the. Your solo shot, I think people saw on the wall that American Pride banner that you've got there, which is, which is interesting. Which is another thing that I would like to bring up. You know, that I only view you as an American as a patriot and as a fighter in the conservative movement. You also happen to be gay. And I think there's a video out there that you had posted that I would love to show viewers because Charlie's getting smeared as this homophobic, misogynistic, racist, anti immigrant, like all of the things, all of the ists he's been getting slandered as. I want viewers to see this video and then I would love your response. This is something you posted yesterday. We cut it down a little bit for time. But watch this. They are openly. If they're supporting open homosexuality.
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Charlie Kirk
So I'm going to ask a very respectful question, as respectfully as I can. What does what they do in their private life concern you so much that you have to go up in front of a crowd and it is against God. That is. So let me ask, are you a Christian or not? Do we live in a theocracy? Yes or no?
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Rick
No.
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Charlie Kirk
That's a. Do we live in a theocracy? You said you're a Christian. I am a Christian. And do you know what? And guess what? I will say this part of being a Christian is appropriately interpreting what the theological says for the individual, but also means to be long suffering and patience and loving and kind. Jesus Christ talked to all people. Jesus Christ went and did his ministry through Judea and Samaria and he had dinner with tax collectors and he had dinner with prostitutes and he did his ministry in every part of the Mediterranean. What it means to be a Christian, my friend, is to be open minded but firm in your beliefs. So you can have that belief. But if you say there's something inherently wrong with communicating or associating just because they make different personal decisions than you, then you, sir, are not a conservative. Thanks for being here tonight.
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Rick
You know, I think this is, I mean that's just, I think very powerful. Charlie was a big time open tent A big, big tent conservative that welcomed everybody in the movement. And honestly, there's a lot of people in the movement that don't necessarily see it that way. Some people watching this show might not see. See it that way, but in regards to all of the ists that Charlie gets called, you know, describe your experience again with. With him in saying that and just as the movement overall and, you know, responding to that video.
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Anthony Raimondi
Well, that, I mean, that proves it like, that if there's. There's nothing else that you can say that is going to. He was a man that, like, understood what you were saying, but then he was like, but he would give you the facts. And then it was like, why do you. Why do you make that your personality? Like, why is that your entire thing? Yeah, like, I'm. I'm gay, but. Or I'm gay.
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Anthony Raimondi
And it was like, no, that doesn't need to be a thing. And so I've always been that way. I mean, this is going back even before Trump times. I mean, ever since I was in the community. In the community, you know, in my 20s, I was always like, why do we have to lead with that? And, you know, that's a great reminder. It's like, look at everybody that Jesus sat with. You know, he sat with everybody. That's Charlie. Charlie sat with everybody. And so for people that call him, like, racist, homophobic and all that, then you hear that and you're like, when did he say that? You know, I'm so sorry. Crank. I'm sorry.
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Rick
No, I, I completely understand. It's. It's been toggling between sadness and just fury of the types of people that would post stuff that they are blatantly either ignorant of or just are fine with spreading lies and mistruths about a guy who only wanted to have a dialogue and discussion. And we have been talking to people the last several days of, you know, where they see the movement going in your eyes. Where. Where is this going? How important is it that, you know, we stick to the cause and make sure that all the things that Charlie was fighting for, you know, aren't going to go to waste just because he's not here with us anymore?
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Anthony Raimondi
I do not think that this is. That anything's going to go to waste if anybody. I mean, I think at this point, everybody saw Erica, how amazing and strong she was. You can see the anger and the disappointment. Like, you can see all the emotions in her. But this is bigger. Like, this is going to be and is bigger than it was before. I think that that was the mission that he was put on earth for. And, you know, that's why, you know, a lot of people even owning a business in an apparel line, I'm, you know, people are like, are you making. Making freedom shirts? I'm like, please go to Turning Point. Sign up. Go to Turning Point. Get it from Turning Point, because it brings you there. You're supporting the message and the cause and growing. I mean, we sell. How many people have signed up, guys, like, in just a short period of time, we have so many more people that have joined Turning Point. This is the. The turning point. This is. This is the turning point in America. You know, my cousins in. In Italy, influencers that are making videos. You know it. He had such a powerful message and a powerful impression on so many people. And that was just it. He was a threat to the very small majority that didn't like him. Very small majority. And as we know, those are always the voices that you see the most of. Unfortunately, this is bigger than ever. This isn't going anywhere. We're gonna keep on going. We can't stop now. That's not. That's a complete opposite of what Charlie would have wanted us to do.
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Rick
Yeah, no, I agree with you, too, to that point of. Just because the fringe is loud doesn't mean they're right, and it doesn't mean they should influence anything. And I think Charlie would have believed that wholeheartedly. Anthony Ramondi, conservative aunt. Really appreciate you taking the time. I wish we could talk under better circumstances, but keep fighting the good fight. Thanks.
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Anthony Raimondi
You too.
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Rick
Thanks, man. Remember, you can email the show anytime you want. Tptepusa.com with your memories and thoughts and well wishes for Charlie and the Kirk family as a whole. We'll be back right after the break. Don't go away. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight, where together we are continuing to chart the course of America's cultural comeback. I know I've said this. I said this before. We would like to read emails. I. We just don't have time. I'm sorry. But you can still send emails. Tptpusa.com we will make time at some point this week to go through a bunch of the emails that we see again, there have been hundreds. It wouldn't even be possible to do if we did. We did the entire show of emails. We wouldn't be able to finish in a year, but. Tptpusa.com you can also send messages to any of the social media profiles. Hopefully we'll see them there, but we will get to them eventually. But for now, we got to talk about what I think is a huge cultural implication. The Emmys happened over the weekend, in case you were unaware. I honestly didn't know. I was completely unaware that they were happening. That's not entirely true. I knew that they were like, I knew that they were happening sometime soon. I was unaware that they happened on Sunday night. Now, the reason that I think this is interesting is because all of the show, the entire show, not one time did anybody mention the Charlie Kirk assassination. Now, not saying they needed to support it in any way, shape or form, or be a supporter of Charlie Kirk in any way, shape or form, but at least acknowledging something that has huge cultural impact in the. The culture that they exist in. Remember, the media people, the entertainment people think that they own the culture. They control the culture. Now, I'll tell you why I don't think that's true. True in just a second. But at no point did they mention Charlie Kirk's assassination. And that was clearly and utterly deliberate. Now, I don't even necessarily place blame on the host. Nate Bargazi hosted the show. He is a clean comic, a family oriented guy. He mentioned in the beginning, he acknowledged, hey, this is a terrible situation. He would like for the Emmys to be an escape from the horrible reality that the country is living in. Um, and while I can respect that in some way, shape or form, you know, I wish you would have said something. He didn't. I'm not entirely blaming him. There's a lot of powers that be that did say, hey, don't say anything, but what he also said was, I don't wanna bring any politics into this whatsoever. So at the very, very, very least you can understand, hey, we don't wanna bring that entirely in. The problem is, unfortunately, you can't control everybody there in not bringing their political opinions into the folder. Not only did they not mention one of, I think the biggest cultural turning point in American society in the last several decades, Charlie Crook's assassination. Not only did they not mention that you got people like Javier Bourdain or whatever his name is showing up in a terrorist garb, whatever at the beginning saying, you know, Gaza this, Palestine that and all of his nonsense. So that was political. There's. And the speeches. This is Hannah Einbinder. I have no idea who this is, but she appropriately appears in a show called Hacks. I don't know if that's like just a documentary entitled what she probably lives her life like, but she went over time, which cost people money, which if you don't understand that reference. You probably didn't watch, which I understand. But so. So ignore what she says at the beginning. But what she says ultimately, I think is telling of where they think the society and the culture is. Watch this. Finally. Oh, I'll pay the difference. Sorry. Finally. I just want to say. I just want to say finally. Go birds and free Palestine. Thank you. Yeah, so I think that's pretty telling as to why they didn't mention anything with Charlie Kirk. She said, f ice and free Palestine. And the crowd erupted. I think they were worried that, hey, if we mention this guy, even though we all think it's terrible, we are going to get pushback from our audience that's in the room tonight. I think that is cowardly, and I think they shouldn't have done it, but that's the reality. Here's what I think, though, is the actual cultural turning point. Just looking at the ratings, the broadcast of the Emmys got the highest they've been in the last four years at 7.4 million views. Now, I want to juxtapose that to the speech that Erica Kirk gave on Friday, which on one platform, not including rumble, YouTube, X, all of the different platforms, the TV stations on one platform, on Instagram, 63 million views and counting. Who do you think has the cultural influence? The people that get together in their nice outfits and claim to be the arbiters of reason and culture, who get a measly seven and a half million people watching their broadcast, or the wife of a murdered American hero who again, on One platform gets 63 million views, almost 10 times the amount of views of the people that claim to be the guiding light of American culture, who actually has an impact, who actually has an influence. I would beg to differ. That it's not the people that are at the Emmys. Is it maddening that they didn't mention Charlie Kirk in any way, shape or form? Yes, and doesn't really matter. Nobody's watching them, relatively. We are winning the culture war by sheer numbers, let alone the fact that we have truth and reality on our side. We are winning, and for that I am grateful. Despite the horrific tragedy that took place that led us to where we are right now. Want to round out the show with something fun? This clip, Glenn, we're gonna skip that. That interview clip and go straight to, you know, I don't know what happened here. There is a guy. There's a video posted of a guy who was sitting outside in a T shirt and signs that said Charlie deserved it or something along those lines. There's a cut in the video. Nobody knows what happened during that cut in the video. It could be anything, you know. I who knows what happened? But you'll see, it's very short. Let's just go ahead and play and I'll narrate through this guy with a sign, thumbs up saying haha. Wow, interesting. I again, who knows what happened after that cut, but that man is crawling out of the pond. Who know? I your guess is as good as mine, actually. Email your guesses to tbtbusa.com I'm not sure what fa fo means either. That was another acronym that was shown on the screen there. Again, anybody's guess who knows. Nobody here is advocating any sort of physical retaliation for people who dis display disgusting beliefs. But like I said, you know, the video cuts and there's nothing we can do about that. It's just. It'll be lost in ambiguity. We'll never know what actually happened there. Thank you for sticking with us as we try to figure out how to do this show going forward. We'll see you tomorrow, same time, same place. God bless America. This is an iHeart podcast.