TURNING POINT TONIGHT, WITH JOBOB, SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2025

Summary

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Real America’s Voice: Turning Point Tonight with JoBob

Episode Summary – September 22, 2025

Main Theme & Purpose

This emotionally charged episode of Turning Point Tonight is dedicated to reflecting on the recent memorial service for Charlie Kirk, his enduring legacy, and how the event has catalyzed a meaningful conversation on faith, forgiveness, and cultural renewal. Host JoBob, alongside a selection of guests, offers firsthand insight into the emotional and spiritual resonance of the gathering, the significance of Erica Kirk’s powerful speech, and the direction of the conservative movement in the face of tragedy.

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1. The Tone-Setting Memorial: Faith, Forgiveness, and a Cultural Turning Point

[00:40–03:50]

• JoBob opens the discussion by framing the memorial as pivotal, introducing a clip from Erica Kirk’s widely discussed speech, highlighting her message of radical forgiveness toward her husband’s (Charlie Kirk) killer.
  • “The answer to hate is not hate. The answer we know from the gospel is love and always love.”
    — Erica Kirk (read by Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz) [03:37]
• JoBob openly shares his own struggle and transformative experience with the concept of forgiveness in the wake of Charlie’s assassination, crediting Erica’s example:
  • “Watching last night, being in the room...Erica gave the green light that it is okay to forgive. That set the tone of what the conservative movement, what Turning Point, what the entire country is about and what they should be about.”
    — JoBob [04:08]
• The prevalence of sincere religious expression at the memorial marks a distinct shift:
  • “Every single speaker up there mentioned their faith...individually we need to become a more God-fearing society.”
    — JoBob [05:33]
• Erica’s call for love and forgiveness is positioned as a possible “turning point” for both the movement and broader American culture.

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2. The Atmosphere and Worship: More Than Politics

[12:45–17:10]

• JoBob emphasizes that the event was unique and not simply a political rally — it was an overwhelmingly spiritual experience, as exemplified by:
  • Worship led by Christian artist Brandon Lake [14:53], with spontaneous moments of collective emotion and unity:
    • “There’s no way to synthesize that...It happens when God is in the room. And I think that’s what happened last night.”
      — JoBob [16:37]
  • Producer Glenn’s on-the-floor video captures a moment where signs are raised in silent witness.
• JoBob and guests stress the authenticity, faith, and emotional power in the room as inexplicable and deeply communal.

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3. Notable Voices: Tucker Carlson and National Figures

[21:45–22:50]

• Tucker Carlson’s remarks echo the prevailing sense of divine presence, and recall the biblical context of truth-telling and persecution, drawing parallels between Jesus and contemporary truth-tellers.
  • “God is here and you can feel it. And Charlie would have loved this...whatever happens next in America, I hope it’s in this direction.”
    — Tucker Carlson [22:00]
• President Trump attended, with his impressions and potential plans to further honor Charlie discussed later (see guest interview).

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4. Guest Perspective: Monica Page, White House Correspondent

[25:38–37:38]

• Monica Page describes her experience traveling with the President to the memorial, and the overwhelming scale and spirit of the event:
  • “There was something about this event that really touched my heart. Everyone was worshiping, everyone was celebrating, mourning. It just made my heart feel full.”
    — Monica Page [27:20]
• Interviews and exchanges with President Trump:
  • Monica floats the idea of honoring Charlie at the White House. Trump endorses the Medal of Freedom and is receptive to ideas for further recognition.
    • “That’s a great tribute to him…Great guy.” — Trump [30:20]
  • Trump comments on wanting to use the closing song from the memorial at future rallies, recognizing its emotional impact.
• Monica also highlights a touching anecdote from White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt:
  • “He was always willing to text people with words of encouragement…he was asking for my husband and I’s address to send a children’s book to our son…and I know so many of us here at the White House are going to miss him very much.”
    — Caroline Leavitt [35:00]
• Monica and JoBob reflect on Charlie’s personal kindness and the deeper significance of the day.

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5. Reflections from Chris Hand: Community and Courage in Faith

[40:01–50:13]

• Chris Hand, present from early morning through the event’s close, describes the palpable sense of community and mutual care:
  • “I can’t think of another event that I’ve ever been a part of where you could hear a pin drop in a crowd of 70,000 people.”
    — Chris Hand [41:13]
• Discusses JD Vance’s moving remarks and the unleashing of public faith expression:
  • “I have talked more about Jesus Christ in the past two weeks than I have my entire time in public life. And that is an undeniable legacy of the great Charlie Kirk.”
    — JD Vance [43:36]
  • Chris notes: “Now I’m done hiding it. Millions of Americans feel that way...”
• On how tragedy has precipitated a “heart change” in American culture, encouraging unapologetic openness about faith as key to national renewal.
• Both JoBob and Chris highlight the extraordinary strength of Erica Kirk’s public forgiveness:
  • “I leaned at my wife and said, I don’t know how she’s doing this because I don’t think I’m ready to forgive him. And this is Charlie’s wife. But then you…if she’s ready, then we have to, as Christians, we are called to do this.”
    — Chris Hand [48:53]

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6. Final Thoughts: Faith At The Center of Public Life

[52:37–53:55]

• Secretary Marco Rubio’s eulogy is featured, expressing a concise and heartfelt message of Christian hope and belief in reunion with departed loved ones:
  • “His deep belief that we were all created...by the hands of the God of the universe...And we will all be together…We are going to have a great reunion there again with Charlie and all the people we love.”
    — Marco Rubio [52:43–53:55]
• JoBob closes the episode reflecting on the authenticity of faith on display:
  • “Grifters don’t have that deep of an understanding of what they're trying to grift on…What we saw yesterday is a bunch of people who, I believe, genuinely have a relationship with God and were putting it on display in a way that they had never done before.”
    — JoBob [54:30]

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps and Attribution)

• “The answer to hate is not hate. The answer we know from the gospel is love and always love.”
  — Erica Kirk (via Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz) [03:37]
• “Erica gave the green light that it is okay to forgive. That set the tone...what Turning Point, what the entire country is about.”
  — JoBob [04:08]
• “God is here and you can feel it. And Charlie would have loved this...whatever happens next in America, I hope it’s in this direction.”
  — Tucker Carlson [22:00]
• “I have talked more about Jesus Christ in the past two weeks than I have my entire time in public life. And that is an undeniable legacy of the great Charlie Kirk.”
  — JD Vance [43:36]
• “There was something about this event that really touched my heart. Everyone was worshiping, everyone was celebrating, mourning. It just made my heart feel full.”
  — Monica Page [27:20]
• “He was always willing to text people with words of encouragement…he was asking for my husband and I’s address to send a children’s book to our son.”
  — Caroline Leavitt [35:00]
• “I don’t know how she can be there already, but I think that that’s a testimony to her faith and a testimony to her strength and a testimony to Jesus.”
  — Chris Hand [49:16]
• “What we’ve really needed in this country is a heart change. And…for the first time in a long time, we’re seeing a heart change on a massive level.”
  — Chris Hand [47:28]
• “We are going to have a great reunion there again with Charlie and all the people we love.”
  — Marco Rubio [53:55]

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Key Segment Timestamps

• 00:40–03:50: Erica Kirk’s speech and the theme of forgiveness
• 12:45–17:10: The worship experience: Brandon Lake, collective emotion
• 21:45–22:50: Tucker Carlson’s remarks on faith, truth, and cultural reversal
• 25:38–37:38: Monica Page’s travelogue, White House and Trump reflections
• 40:01–50:13: Chris Hand on the event’s atmosphere and faith’s public resurgence
• 52:37–53:55: Secretary Rubio’s eulogy, JoBob’s closing summation

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Engaging, Rich Recap

The episode vibrates with emotional and spiritual candor as JoBob and his guests, some of whom experienced the memorial firsthand, narrate the event as a true turning point — both for the conservative movement and American public Christianity. From the unprecedented collective act of forgiveness modeled by Erica Kirk, to the way national and spiritual leaders opened up about their faith — even at risk of public scrutiny — listeners are taken deep into how tragedy has unified, inspired, and emboldened a movement.

The detailed testimonials from the arena — its hushed reverence, its moments of spontaneous worship, and its rare sense of community — are woven together with memorable guest appearances by Monica Page, Chris Hand, and soundbites from influential speakers such as JD Vance and Marco Rubio. The episode intertwines personal memory with national purpose, suggesting that the course of American culture might truly be changed by this willingness to lead with faith and forgiveness rather than bitterness or outrage.

The podcast skips the politics-as-usual, focusing instead on the real human stories, the challenge and cost of true forgiveness, and the rising resolve to be public about faith in the face of tragedy. The episode closes with both reflection and a call to action, inviting listeners to be part of a cultural and spiritual comeback that Charlie Kirk dreamed of, and which — if this night is any indication — is already in motion.

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Transcript

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

This is an I Heart podcast. What do you think makes the perfect snack? Hmm.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's convenient.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

Could you be more specific?

[Charlie Kirk]

When it's cravinient. Okay. Like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter, available right down the street at am, pm. Or a savory breakfast sandwich I can.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

Grab in just a second at am, pm. I'm seeing a pattern here.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, yeah, we're talking about what I.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

Crave, which is anything from am, pm.

[Charlie Kirk]

What more could you want? Stop by A and PM where the snacks and drinks are perfectly craveable and convenient. That's cravy. Ampm Too much.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

Good stuff.

[Charlie Kirk]

God bless Erica Kirk. Welcome into Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. Just as Charlie would have wanted, we are continuing the fight to save this country. There's so much to get to from the memorial yesterday. And we'll play you a bunch of clips, what I think are the highlights of the memorial more broadly. But first and most specifically, I'm going to play you a clip from Erica's speech last night that was the most important, bar none, segment of the entire affair. I know it was long. I know there was a lot of prominent speakers saying very important things, but the entire event, the entire everything that Charlie stood for hinged on this clip. It is long. I told our producer I wanted to leave the entirety of the applause in there, but I think it's worth it. Watch this. From Erica Kirk.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

My husband, Charlie, he wanted to save.

[Charlie Kirk]

Young men.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

Just like the one who took his life.

[Charlie Kirk]

That young man, that young man on.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

The cross, our Savior said.

[Charlie Kirk]

Father, forgive.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

Them for they not know what they do.

[Charlie Kirk]

That man.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

That young man.

[Charlie Kirk]

I forgive him.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

It. I forgive him because it was what Christ did and is what Charlie would do. The answer to hate is not hate. The answer we know from the gospel.

[Charlie Kirk]

Is love and always love.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

Love for our enemies and love for those who persecute us.

[Charlie Kirk]

I think part of the reason why I wanted to have that whole clip is to give myself a chance to recover because myself and producer Claire getting a little misty eyed here watching that. You know, the day after Charlie was assassinated, I had a difficult kind of position and difficult take on things. And I'm not at all trying to make this about myself. I just want to let you in on kind of the process going through the head, going through my head, came out almost immediately and said, we are a godless. The problem is godlessness. That is what our main Problem is, and in addition to that, part of this equation is forgiveness. And I'll be honest with you, we recorded that segment and I called a couple different people in the Turning Point bubble and said, hey, this is maybe a little bit spicy. And not because it was wrong, but because I wasn't sure that it was my place to do. Erica has borne the overwhelming brunt of the severity of this. Obviously, Charlie affected my life. He has affected your life, but Erica was his life. And it was very difficult to me for me to put out a call to forgiveness, even though it is exactly what Erica said, it exactly what Charlie would have wanted. But I was. I wasn't sure it was my place. And watching last night, being in the room, having tears streaming down my face, my wife's face, and everybody around us in this same section, Erica give the green light that it is okay to forgive. That set the tone of what the conservative movement, what turning point, what the entire country is about and what they should be about. The world is not fair. It is not fair. But what Erica said there is that you can't combat unfairness with further unfairness. You will eventually get into a vicious circle of bloodlust. And the only way out of that is forgiveness. And that forgiveness is perfectly exemplified at the cross. Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do. And forgiveness is hard, it is difficult, it is an anguishing process, but it must be gone through because it's the only way to live. Yes, on the cross, forgiveness was exemplified by Jesus, and it was painful and it was awful to watch, but it was necessary because remember then three days after that comes the resurrection is the only way to move forward in a world that is unfair and will continue to be unfair regardless of how we feel that we should respond. The only way to respond is to forgive. It was really interesting last night in my own just emotional state, going through some of the comments on the Internet in response to Erica's speech. There were several comments that. That a week ago I probably would have been enraged with. And I think, you know that that feeling somewhat exists there, but it's masked by a feeling of. And a posture towards forgiveness and therefore a posture towards pity. There were. There were several comments that I could show you and we could rage, bait each other, look at what they said against Erica, and, you know, none of that would be unwarranted. But overall, the tone that Erica set put myself, and I hope it put you in a posture towards. Doesn't matter what you think. It doesn't matter, because we'll Forgive you for the comments that you make and really have pity on you last night. And I don't want to take this overly political in the sense of the direction of the country was an oh my God moment. First, in the positive light, every single speaker up there mentioned their faith. They mentioned the fact that individually we need to become a more God fearing society and therefore more broadly we will be able to to correct the course of whatever path we'd like to see going forward. It was also, and I don't mean this in any comical sense, an oh my God moment for all of the loud minority who yesterday, specifically during Erica's speech, realized, oh my God, these people are starting to wake up and understand who they truly are and who they were meant to be. For too long the very, very loud minority has coerced so many of us into directions that are not who we are. And yesterday, witnessing the long lineup of people that were giving their thoughts, sharing their faith, and again, more specifically, Erica at that pinnacle point in her speech, let the world know that it is okay to be who you are. It is okay to reject the notion that you're supposed to harbor vitriol, which is what so many people who are in an anti God state do. It's unfortunate, but it's the reality. We can go two different directions here. We could have gone two different directions here. Erica put us on the direction that we were supposed to go. We could have gone the direction of holding despair and holding on to the resentment and not wanting to let go of a justifiably angry attitude towards the assassination of our friend Charlie Kirk. Or we could do as what Charlie would have wanted, what Erica has done and what Jesus exemplified himself, and that is to forgive. And if we went that direction, which we did, then it can truly be the turning point of this country and of the American people. We got so much to discuss from the memorial itself. You can email your thoughts tptp USA.com if you were at the event, we'd love to hear your experience of it if you watched it on TV over the hundred million people that either streamed or watched live, which we'll get to some of those numbers a little bit later. But that is just an incredible, incredible figure. We'd love to hear from you. TPTP USA.com we'll be right back after this. You're listening to Leaff Filter radio and the guru of gutter protection himself, Chris Kunahan, is here to take your most pressing LEAF related questions. Hey everybody, Chris here. I understand we have Ron on the line.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

Ron, where are you calling from?

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Ham. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time, long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to Turning Point tonight, where together we are continuing Charlie's legacy of charting the course of America's cultural comeback. And I, you know, we're serious about that, the cultural comeback of the country. But, you know, sometimes you say it a little more hokey. It's. It's kind of the slogan of the show. And the slogan of what I think Turning Point is, is, is directing and guiding, charting the course of America's cultural comeback. But I think yesterday was a genuine turning point, and I don't use those terms lightly in the American culture. Like I said earlier, I think especially Erica's speech specifically highlights the tone that is set going forward for conservatives and for Christians in this country and how we go about forwarding traditional values and the prospect of what America could be. You know, I gotta remind you, tptp USA.com if you were at the event or if you watched it live on TV for one of the hundred million people around the world that watched either via Internet stream or television, which is an unbelievable number. We'd love to hear your email, your thoughts. TPT USA.com in response to the, the cultural comeback of this country, I wanted to play, you know, a couple clips that I think outside of the speeches and we'll get to a couple of those too, but I'm not sure how many specifically outside the speeches. I want to, I want to try and convey the feeling of the room, the feeling that was in that room having, you know, been there and, and again, I'd love to hear your thoughts if you were there, if you, if you felt something different, which I don't know that people would. TPTP USA.com but this is one of those, those moments that you just, you can't replicate or at least here, let me set this up. This is the worship component of it. This is clip five. This is Brandon Lake. I'd love to talk to you about, talk to, talk about briefly, but watch this clip just to kind of get that feeling of, of what the moment was in the stadium there yesterday in Phoenix. Check this out.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

So I throw up my.

[Charlie Kirk]

I just wanted to pause it right here. Maybe I'll track back a little bit to this video for those of you who weren't there. And understanding the, the kind of, the orientation of the room. This is from behind the stage. The screen that you're seeing is at the back of the room. The stage is in your lower left hand corner here. If you're looking at it on the screen, the people that shot this video, that were singing in this video couldn't even see what was going on and yet were still impacted in such a way that again, I don't even, I don't know if we've ever seen this sort of thing. I don't know if we'll ever see it again. I hope we will. Obviously not under the circumstances that this is. But I just, from a visual standpoint, if you could see that room, if you were there in that room, there's a feeling that I don't know how could be replicated. Again, this is from behind the stage. These people in this video can't even see what's going on outside of the one video monitor on the other side of the stadium. That's how powerful I think all of this was it. And two, you know, there's, there's several people that were commenting online. And again, I'm in a position now and I hope you're in the same sort of headspace that it doesn't matter what any of the haters, for lack of a better term, are saying. But there's some commentary around the people there that were leading worship. Brandon Lake is a, you know, massive in the Christian world. If you're not familiar with the contemporary Christian music world, he's a huge figure and that song is very, very popular. But he's not a political guy. But I think that underscores kind of the meaning of this whole thing. It wasn't political. There's no political element of it. Yeah, there were political figures and they're, you know, leaders of, you know, the Republican Party there. But it's a cultural thing. It was a faith based thing that I think brought all of these people together. And I think that's what led to, to a moment like, like the one I want to show you. There were. There was a moment during the, the worship music where I'm not sure if they were transitioning into a song. I'm not sure what was happening. But something happened in the stadium that inspired everybody. There were signs on a bunch of different seats to hold up the signs and, and the, the pan just let it go. Didn't continue a song, didn't go into something. It just, it just kind of happened. And it's getting one of those things you can't replicate. But it evoked a feeling that, that was so awe inspiring. I know you probably can't get that feeling through video, but I want to play you a clip, quick clip. This is actually. Producer Glenn took this video from the floor and, and put it out. So go ahead and play clip 4. There's no way to synthesize that. There's no way to create something like that intentionally. It happens when God is in the room. And I think that's what happened last night. There's a. There are again, so many speeches and you know, again we'll play a couple of it, but there's no way to adequately describe or articulate what that feeling was like. And I hope the hundred thousand people that were there in the room and the, the hundred million people that were watching in some way, shape or form via their screen somewhere at their house or their computer or tv, whatever it was, we're able to feel that in real time as it was happening. And then we'll also be able to transmit that as they go forward in their life. I know I will. My wife and I were talking about this last night as we were on their way back from Phoenix. Is, you know, as. As cliche as it might sound. This is a Genuine turning point in my life, in everybody life, who I think was there witnessing that. And maybe it's not cliche, maybe it's just an adequate and appropriate name for the organization that Charlie founded to have a turning point in American culture and in the world more broadly. I, you know, not to, well, I don't even want to go there. I was going to reiterate the fact that I think the people, the very, very loud minority, is shocked and in awe and scrambling for a way to figure out what to do because you, you can't. There's no way to orchestrate something like what happened yesterday. I did want to play quickly clip from Tucker because Tucker, I think, you know, obviously guys great with words was feeling the same thing too. A lot of this. Well, I won't say this. If you're in the room, you kind of try to figure out, you know, who was where. Obviously President Trump was in a box. You didn't see him until he came out on stage. Erica was behind the stage and didn't come out. But Tucker, not, not that that's either good or bad. That's just what it was. Tucker came out into the area that we were sitting in and took it all in, took it all in like everyone else. And when it was time for him to go up on stage, know that he was coming from the pit or the ground floor or whatever you want to call it, having taken in all what was going on just like everyone else. And then after that, said this unbelievable thing I think I've ever seen and I don't what whatever happens next in America, I hope it's in this direction because God is here and you can feel it. And Charlie would have loved this, not just because he loved large groups of people, but because ultimately he was a Christian evangelist. And it actually reminds me of my favorite story ever. So it's about 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem and Jesus shows up and he starts talking about the people in power and he starts doing the worst thing.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

That you can do, which is telling.

[Charlie Kirk]

The truth about people. And they hate it and they just go bonkers. They hate it and they become obsessed with making him stop. This guy's got to stop talking. We've got to shut this guy up. And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamp lit room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking about what do we do about this guy telling, telling the truth about us?

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

We must make him stop talking.

[Charlie Kirk]

And there's always one guy with the bright idea. And I could just Hear him say, I've got an idea, why don't we just kill him? That'll shut him up. That'll fix the problem. It doesn't work that way. It doesn't work that way. Everything is inverted and the beatitude tell it, I think the most crisply. Everything is sort of the opposite of what you think it's going to be. Yeah. The beginning part of that, I think was the most impactful God is here, which is what I think everybody in that room was feeling. You know, it's, there's a bunch of clips that we could play. There's, you know, there are definitely speeches that we will. I think we're going to play a clip from President Trump and also from Secretary of State Rubio that I thought were impactful. But we'll get to those later on in the show. We're going to talk with White House correspondent Monica Page, who actually flew with President Trump to the event yesterday, to the memorial service yesterday, talk about her experience there. She also got to ask the President a couple questions, was also in the briefing room today and got to ask the press secretary several questions there, which, you know, some heartfelt answers were given. But we'll check in with Monica after that, after the break, as well as play some more clips of again, what I think is a monumental turning point in this country. Don't go away. We'll be right back after this. You're listening to leaff Filter Radio and the guru of gutter protection himself, Chris Counahan is here to take your most pressing leaf related questions. Hey, everybody, Chris here. I understand we have Ron on the line.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

Ron, where are you calling from?

[Charlie Kirk]

Uh, oh, Ron, are you calling from a ladder?

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

Well, I was. I wanted to ask Chris what I.

[Charlie Kirk]

Need to do to get my gutters ready to have leaffilter installed. Oh, Ron, you don't have to do anything.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

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[Charlie Kirk]

Gutter inspection and get up to 30% off. Thank goodness. What was that site? That's leaffilter.com day for your free gutter inspection today. See representative for warranty details. Promotion is 20% off plus a 10% senior or military discount. One discount per household.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Ham, and I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time, long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started Normally a podcast report people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen.

[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to Turning Point tonight, where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. If you have emails you want to send, whether you went to the service yesterday or watched it live on TV, we'd love to hear your thoughts. Tptpusa.com tptpusa.com any any memories you have, any fond memories? But also, again, the memorial yesterday I thought was incredible. Unbelievable amount of viewership as the numbers continue to roll in on all of the ratings. Send us any of your thoughts. Tptpusa.com Right now we want to check in with Turning Point's White House correspondent Monica Page, who had a very, very busy last couple days, was on Air Force One with the president en route to Charlie's memorial service and now back in Washington, D.C. got to ask a bunch of questions which we'll get to. But Monica, first of all, broadly, overall, what was that experience like, one flying with the president and then to being at the memorial and seeing a full stadium of people all there to send Charlie off?

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

Well, it was very overwhelming. And yeah, it was a very long day, but it was an absolute honor to travel with the president to Charlie Kirk's memorial service. It was a very early day. We didn't get to Joint Base Andrews until around 7:30, 38am Eastern Time, where we kind of waited around and waited till we could go through our screening process to board Air Force One. We finally got to the tarmac. You could see the big, beautiful Air Force One airplane. And you also saw the second one right behind it where the additional staff and additional admin members were also attending Charlie's wake and his memorial service. And what I thought was incredible was just the fact to not only be on the plane, but to go through my mind that this would not have happened if it weren't for Charlie. So it was, it was a somber moment. I wish it were under better circumstances. But it was a great flight. I mean, we were fed really well. It was just a really cool moment to be sitting with members of the other members of the press and just be on a piece of history, which was also really cool. The President did not gaggle with us on the way to Arizona, but nonetheless, it was an awesome experience. It was a very smooth flight, very comfortable flight. And then when we landed, we got to watch the President come down the stairs and get immediately into the. The beast in the motorcade to. When that sort of thing happens, you have to run to your press van, all the way at the end of the motorcade line. So we physically ran to the vans to get there. And it wasn't until, you know, we flew down the road about 10 to 15 minutes away to the stadium. We got to the stadium, and I could see through the curtain as we're walking through the tunnel to get out to the big arena. I saw. I can't even express to you how many people I saw in those stands just from far away. And then the curtain finally lifted, and we finally came through the press area into the event. I was completely overwhelmed with the amount of people I had. There was nothing like this. I had never seen anything like this in my entire life. I mean, you can compare it to sports events, you can compare it to concerts, but there was something about this event that really touched my heart. And I don't know if it was because it was just everyone was worshiping, everyone was celebrating, mourning. It was just a mix of all different kinds of emotions. It just made my heart feel full to see my fellow colleagues there also and try to support them as best as I could from afar, and just know that, you know, everyone there was there for Charlie and to support what we do. It was definitely an overwhelming feeling.

[Charlie Kirk]

Joe, Bob, you know, it was also just a peek behind the curtain, I guess, metaphorically and physically, it's super interesting when the President goes anywhere. For those of you who don't kind of pay attention to all of this, you know, when the President's in the building, not because you see President Trump, because the media pool all comes out, everybody who travels with the president, you know, left, right and center on all of their coverage, the people that go with the president come out of the curtains and they come into the audience or wherever the media section is. And it was just really cool seeing Monica, all part of those. Those photographers, videographers, reporters that came out, that came with the president, and you kind of get the, okay, Trump's in the Building, and we haven't seen him yet, but the press pool is here. And that was just really cool, Sid. Seeing you as a part of that was awesome. You also got to ask the President a couple questions on the plane ride back. I want to play a couple of those and then get your response and reaction to what he said. Play cut one.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

No, I was just wondering. I was just wondering because there are a number of spots in and around the White House that are named after specific people. I was wondering if you would be considering naming something after Charlie to honor his life.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, there are. There are different little areas.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

Yeah, I like that idea. But we're giving up, I think, even.

[Charlie Kirk]

More importantly, the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

Which is the highest of the civilian.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's. I guess they say, you know, you think Congressional Medal of Honor is for military, and this is for the civilian, so that's a great tribute to him. Great guy. Yeah, that's a great idea. And, you know, maybe you put some. Some thoughts into the President's head there, Monica, with that question. Obviously, there's no word yet, but I don't know, just anecdotally, what do you think the likelihood of something like that possibly happening? Would be?

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

So I want to definitely walk you through this moment because it's important, because I was here at the White House. Andrew was actually here, and I ran into him when he was doing some media hits here at the White House. And I was speaking with some of the press people who. The comms people who work within the White House. And I was just doing some kind of, like, brainstorming about other ways that we could honor Charlie not only with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, but also in other ways that maybe people don't really know of. And what came to mind was that the press briefing room is named after James S. Brady. He was Ronald Reagan's press secretary and was also shot and killed while serving President Reagan. So I was thinking, you know, maybe the President would consider doing something like this for Charlie Kirk. So we were thinking, well, myself and the other comms people were thinking maybe a tent here on the North Lawn. Charlie Kirk tent would be really cool. Or just a. Maybe a specific room in the White House or maybe a place in the garden, because we know Charlie loved nature, so something along those lines, or maybe a little statue. So I definitely wanted to know what the President's take was. But he. The President came back pretty quickly on our flight home. I mean, it was an exhausting day, as you know, emotionally, physically, just to be there all day and feeling all these range of emotions. So we're very grateful that the President came back pretty early in our flight back home and was able to answer some of our questions. But if we do see something happen at the White House other than the Presidential Medal of Freedom, then. Then you know that it. From us, from. You know, it was our idea to do this. It wasn't just my idea, it was ours here at Turning Point usa. So it was just a really sweet moment. And I'm hoping that more of this happens, whether it's here at the White House or even on college campuses, little statues, memorials, because we know that's what Charlie loved to do.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And it really exemplifies not only Charlie, but the idea of the free exchange of ideas and free speech and what we stand for as a country as a whole, even outside of Charlie himself. And so, yeah, I think that would be very special. You also got to ask President Trump another question. So I would be remiss if I didn't play that as well. So check this out.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

Cut two details around that upcoming event that you can share with us. Any any further details about that event?

[Charlie Kirk]

I think the event was just a flawless event.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

It was beautiful.

[Charlie Kirk]

I thought the last song was incredible, the way it was as we were leaving. In fact, I think I was.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

I said, who is singing that song? And I think what I'll do is.

[Charlie Kirk]

I'll grab it and I'll use it at rallies. We have rallies to get people elected, and I'll use it at some of the rallies. Wasn't that beautiful? That was the best rendition I've ever heard. Yeah. The President is there just kind of remarking on the fact of. Yeah. You know, he pays attention to all of the things that are going on around him. Not a ton to say, Monica, but do you have any short thoughts on that?

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

Yeah. So I think he misinterpreted my question. I wanted to know more details surrounding the Presidential Medal of Freedom event here at the White House that was going to be taking place. I'd love to know when that would be. Any more details that we can expect to happen at this event? I do also want to add that I forgot to mention, after you asked me my other question, one of the last exchanges that I did have with Charlie was when he was here at the White House and I saw him and I got a picture with him. I was like, charlie, we gotta get ourselves a tent here on the North Lawn. And he said that he always wanted to do his show from the North Lawn. The White House So I think that it's our responsibility here to make sure that happens for him. But other than that, I mean, it was just an incredible event, and I'm very grateful that the president took my questions and was able to attend this event and give such amazing remarks and be there for Erica on stage. That's definitely a couple of moments there that I just would never forget.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. And, you know, lastly, today, I know you're. You're doing double time here. We're, we're gonna working you pretty hard today, Monica. But you were also in the press briefing room and asked a couple questions of Carolyn Levitt. And I want to play the last question you asked because I thought when you thought too was a very moving answer from the White House press secretary. Play cut three and I'll get your reaction.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

End on a lighter note, Caroline, I'd love to know what your favorite memory of Charlie is. Sure. Charlie was a great guy, and he was, of course, a very influential person in the conservative movement, in the MAGA movement. He was so helpful to the president during the campaign and to all of us who worked on that campaign, that historic campaign. I myself had many great memories going on Charlie's amazing podcast and his show. He was always willing to text people with words of encouragement. In fact, my last text exchange was with him was the day before he died. And he was asking for my husband and I's address to send a children's book to our son. And I think that just speaks to the type of person that he was. And I know so many of us here at the White House are going to miss him very much.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it's a really interesting little peek behind the curtains to the guy he actually was. Monica, what did you think about the press secretary's response to that? It was.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

It was definitely an amazing opportunity to be in the new media seat today on behalf of Charlie, on behalf of Turning Point, on behalf of Frontlines. Definitely a really cool experience. And I'm so grateful that I got to ask the questions that, you know, were kind of burning questions for most of us here, especially as a contain as it concerns antifa and violence surrounding antifa. We know the president's designating antifa as a domestic terror organization. Excuse me. We would love to know what more that he would do to just ensure this kind of violence never happens again. And then I wanted to make it personal and end on a lighter note because I know Caroline was a good friend of his, and he definitely supported Caroline through her congressional campaign. And I just was out of curiosity Wanted to know, you know, what was that relationship like behind closed doors that maybe not of us, not all of us get to see every day? And I wasn't expecting such a personal answer. So when she gave that really sweet message, you know, giving us a little glimpse into maybe their relationship, I was a little shocked. I was a little surprised because I didn't know that they texted like that. I didn't know that, you know, he was going to send them a book for their child. It just goes to show that Charlie, I mean, Charlie loves kids, you know, he loves the American family and the idea of, you know, people, you know, starting their own family. So it just, it really touched my heart and, you know, just trying to bring closure to something that's just been so heavy for all of us and just end things on a lighter note. And I'm really, really glad that Caroline got to share that with us. It was very, very special.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it totally was. You mentioned a couple of the other things you asked and we will get to those things. I think those are very important. Maybe we'll play them on the show tomorrow. But yeah, just in. In remembrance of Charlie with all of the things that were going on the last couple days, it's been great to hear, you know, your firsthand experience of the whole process and really, really appreciate you, Monica, for taking the time and sharing with us all of those little, you know, sneak peeks behind the curtains. Really, really, really fascinating to talk. Thank you.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

Thank you so much, Joe Bob.

[Charlie Kirk]

Thanks, Monica. We'll see you tomorrow. Coming up next here on Turning Point, tonight we are going to talk more about the memorial. There's so many angles and so many avenues to cover. We're not going to want to miss it. And it might even bleed into tomorrow. There's just so much to get to. You can email the show tptpusa.com with any of your thoughts. Whether you watched the memorial from home or you were there, we'd love to hear your experience and even how it might have moved you. Send those emails to tptpusa.com and don't go away. We'll be right back after the break. You're listening to Leaffilter Radio and the guru of gutter protection himself, Chris Cooneyhan is here to take your most pressing Leaf related questions.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

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[Charlie Kirk]

Welcome back to Turning Point. Tonight, we're together. We are continuing to chart the course of America's cultural comeback. You can email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com love hearing all your thoughts, especially if you were there at the event yesterday or watched it live. One of the hundred million people that watched it through whatever medium that you watched at. Tbtpusa.com I wanted to bring in someone else who was there the entire event. Obviously we talked to Monica Page who was with Trump and was, you know, in and out like Trump was, which is totally fine. But somebody who was there, I think since from six in the morning we walked over together. Chris Hand is the host of the Chris Hand show and also a friend of this show. He's a guest several times. Chris, thanks for joining us. Really appreciate taking time.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

Hey, thanks for having me last yesterday was just amazing. I mean, full on from the moment that we walked up because we, you know, full disclosure, a little backstory. Me and Joe Bob, we met in a hotel lobby and then we walked over with your producer Glenn and all of our wives. But even from when we were walking in there you could just tell the tone was different. You know, there's a sea of a hundred thousand people, and as soon as we say, hey, guys, we. We got to get in. We're staffing. The way the crowd just parted for us, you could tell that the mood was completely different from the onset. And then when we got to go in there and we. We were in there with an empty building, and it was. It was heavy. It was. It was quiet. And then as the day went on, as this crowd filled in and there's 70,000 plus people, you felt that same quiet come back as people were given their heartfelt testimony about Charlie and what Charlie meant to their life. And I think everybody has their own Charlie story, but this audience wanted to hear them, and they listened and they listened intently. And I can't think of another event that I've ever been a part of where you could hear a pin drop in a crowd of 70,000 people.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, yeah, it. Well, you actually brought up a good point. I wasn't really even considering we were going to talk about this, but, yeah, just early in the morning, we were texting each other because Secret Service locks down the building, as they should, by the way. But there's. There's really only one way to get in. Everybody had to enter through the same way. Whether you were, you know, high profile media or, you know, just people showing up to. To support Charlie, everybody go through the same entrance. But we obviously had to get in kind of sooner and kind of had some things to do inside. And the. The graciousness, which the audience just said, yeah, go, go, go right on through. That doesn't exist in, you know, any sort of other context, especially, you know, a sporting event, let alone a, you know, an event held by the other side of the political aisle. Nobody just says, oh, yeah, just go, go right on through. We know you got to get there. We had, you know, two. Two pregnant women with us, my wife included, along with a couple other people that just needed. We need to get in the building for, you know, various reasons. And the crowd was so gracious in letting us do that. You just don't see that anywhere else. So. Yeah, thanks for bringing that up. That was actually a point that I hadn't touched on yet. But, Chris, I wanted to play this clip from JD Vance, which I thought was so emblematic of really everybody who was able to speak at Charlie's memorial yesterday. I know people have heard this clip, but I think it's worth talking about. Play. Cut to.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

I was telling somebody backstage that I.

[Charlie Kirk]

Always Felt a little uncomfortable talking about.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

My faith in public.

[Charlie Kirk]

As much as I loved the Lord and as much as it was an important part of my life, I have.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

Talked more about Jesus Christ in the.

[Charlie Kirk]

Past two weeks than I have my.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

Entire time in public life. And that is an undeniable legacy of.

[Charlie Kirk]

The great Charlie Kirk. You know, he loved God, and because he loved God, he wanted to understand.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

God's creation and the men and women made in his image.

[Charlie Kirk]

Chris, what are your immediate thoughts to that?

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

My first thought is amen. My second thought is this guy is the example of the American story. And I've said this about J.D. vance for. For a long time. This is the new American story, right? He. He dealt with a town going to hell because of nafta. He dealt with parents with addiction issues. Like, everybody knows somebody that's gone through this. But then he just added a new element to the American story. Because so many people in these last 12 days have felt that same feeling. Like, yeah, I. I pray privately. But now I'm going to bring my faith into the public square. Now. I'm done hiding it. Millions of Americans feel that way, and not just Americans. We've seen it in Korea, Australia, England, you name it. This is. This is a global trend. And JD what you don't see in that clip, because they panned to the crowd, but I watched, and you were sitting right there next to me as we're staring at J.D. he really got choked up. He was really, truly moved by that. And you can kind of hear it in his voice as they come back to him on the shot. But he meant that, and he felt that. And I think that that really resonated with a lot of Americans.

[Charlie Kirk]

You know, what I think is really, I said this earlier in the show. The. The kind of. The theme of all of this, including the reaction, especially on the other side of the aisle, is, oh, my God. 1. In a positive light of everybody out there sharing their. Their relationship experience with God and, And their. Their religious affiliation and their Christian values. But then also on, you know, the lib side of the aisle going, oh, my God, we are in trouble. Because the loud minority that is directed culture for all too long is witnessing. I think so many people, like you just said, start to go, you know what? I'm gonna start saying this. It has not necessarily been commonplace in American culture, especially for public figures, but now it is. And now is the time to. To continue pushing the message, because ultimately, at the end of the day, it's what's best for everybody. Obviously, your personal relationship. But as a society and a culture as a whole, it's best for everyone. Chris, you know, I think one of the things that, you know, people, people kind of tend to, especially in the modern political era, is I'm going to make my arguments based solely on reason, not bring religious religion into it, because that's a knock that the left gives us a lot. Do you think that kind of element is going to start to change and people are going to go, nope, we are a, we are a Christian founded society and we are going to lean into that.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

So I hope we lean into that. But I would say be more like Charlie, and I would say Charlie could decimate you either way. He could hit you with straight facts or he could bring in faith. And I think that you should be equipped for both. You should put on the armor of God, but you should also arm yourself with knowledge. And these things don't have to be separate, but you should be equipped to win the argument either way. And that's, that's what Charlie could do. He could absolutely tear you apart from a faith aspect or he could tear you apart with stats and numbers. But I think that leaning into our faith is definitely something that we need to do and something that we're going to see a lot more of in the future. We've mean, we've said a lot in this country that elections come every two years, every four years, and, and we get a new guy in, but then, oh, something changes and the things that we wanted to happen didn't happen. But what we've really needed in this country is a heart change. And I think that for the first time in a long time, we're seeing a heart change on a massive level. And just for the mere fact of people not being afraid to do it is going to change this nation. Does that mean you need to do it every time? No, not necessarily, but. But you should be equipped to do both.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, there's probably an argument to be made of like they're one in the same, but they can be bifurcated in certain scenarios, in certain circumstances. But I get what you're saying and I think, I think that's a good tact to take. Lastly, as we're wrapping up here, we did the whole first segment on Erica's speech and the significance of that without getting into the nitty gritty details of forgiveness and that whole element, which I think was the most important moment of the entire event. What did it feel like to you in that room? I kind of shared my thoughts of it, but Just from another perspective, what, what was, for lack of a better term, the vibe.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

Like, I saw a lot of grown men putting on sunglasses. I know that I saw a lot of women crying, and I saw a lot of people realize that Erica is a lot stronger than we even thought she was. Yeah, like, we knew she was strong, but that level of strength, I, I leaned at my wife and I said, I, I don't know how she's doing this because I don't think I'm ready to forgive him. And, and this is Charlie's wife. But then you, you kind of start to rationalize in your head, if she's ready, then, then we have to, as Christians were called to do this.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

I don't know how she can be there already, but I, I think that that's a testimony to her faith and a testimony to her strength and a testimony to Jesus. And I don't think you can explain it any other way rationally.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, it's 100% true. And I think also after you look at the element of forgiveness and what that does, you kind of look at it in the perspective of running the organization. And to be honest with you, it'd be very difficult for somebody to harbor resentment in their heart and run the organization like that. But again, it's comforting to know that Erica has been able to get there as quickly as she had and very, very positive in terms of running the organization. With a heart like hers, I think there's no telling what Turning Point is going to be able to do going forward.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

Yeah, well, and it's a testimony. It's a testimony that the organization is in the right hands because Charlie led with his faith and now we're seeing Erica do the exact same thing.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, that is. That is absolutely correct. Chris Hand hosted the Chris Hand show. Also friend of the Turning Point Tonight show, which you may see a little bit more of him coming up here in the next couple days or weeks. But thanks for joining us, Chris. Really appreciate you taking the time.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

Hey, I love the show. Watch it every night, praying for you and praying for your beautiful wife and that you guys have the healthiest, happiest baby in the entire world.

[Charlie Kirk]

I appreciate it, man. Thank you so much. Coming up next here in Turning Point tonight, we'll try to get to some of your emails, time permitting. Tptpusa.com I won't rant about that. So we can go to commercial break and be right back after this. Welcome back to Turning Point Tonight, where together we are continuing to chart the course of America's cultural comeback. You can email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com I look forward to seeing all of the emails regarding Charlie's memorial service as well as any of the thoughts you have on today's show. TPTP USA.com we only have time to get to one email and I thought this was just interesting and funny. I won't, I won't say who it's from, but it just said 2028. And then the email itself only said Erica for president. She has my vote. And you know, I recognize we're, you know, that's a little bit, a little bit of levity there, but I think it's one, it would be deserved. And I can't say that I would disagree, but I think that kind of strikes to the core of what Erica was doing. The grace and the genuineness that I think she displayed would invoke that kind of feeling in a lot of people. Maybe we can get that trend started. Erica 2028, you know, wouldn't, wouldn't be a bad decision in my book, but. Tptp USA.com if you have any other thoughts, we'd like to share anything from the memorial, whether you were there or whether you watched it live. We'd love to hear it and we'll hopefully get some more of those emails tomorrow. I wanted to end the day and there's so many clips that could be played. You may recognize we didn't play a clip from President Trump, not for any other reason, because we, there's not enough time, there's not enough time to play all of the clips from all of the speakers. But I thought Senator or sorry, Secretary Rubio was fantastic, wanted to play a brief clip from him before we signed off. Here's Marco Rubio at Charlie's memorial yesterday. Watch this.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

But I'm confident he would agree. One of the things he wants us to take away from this, from all.

[Charlie Kirk]

Of this, is the following.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

His deep belief that we were all created, every single one of us, before the beginning of time by the hands of the God of the universe, an all powerful God who loved us and created us for the purpose of living with him in eternity. But then sin entered the world and separated us from our Creator.

[Charlie Kirk]

And so God took on the form.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

Of a man and came down and lived among us. And he suffered like men and he died like a man. But on the third day, he rose unlike any mortal man. And then, and to prove any doubters wrong, he ate with his disciples so they could see and they touched his wounds he didn't rise as a ghost or as a spirit, but his flesh. And then he rose to the heaven. But he promised he would return.

[Charlie Kirk]

And he will.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

And when he returns, because he took on that death, because he carried that cross, we were freed from the sin that separated us from him. And when he returns, there will be a new heaven and a new earth, and we will all be together.

[Charlie Kirk]

And we will.

[Chris Hand / Monica Page / Chris Counahan]

We are going to have a great reunion there again with Charlie and all.

[Charlie Kirk]

The people we love. Thank you and God bless you. You know, one of the criticisms, and I'm not even calling them criticisms, I just think they're words spoken by lost individuals right now. One of the things that those folks are saying is that, well, you got to watch out for Christians pretending to be Christians in order to move votes. And all they're saying is nothing genuine. It's just a grift to get more power. Okay, I understand that concern, so to speak, but grifters don't have that deep of an understanding of what they're trying to grift on. They keep it very, very surface level. And that is not what JD Said. That is not what Rubio said. That is not what so many other of the people that displayed their own personal relationship with God at Charlie's memorial yesterday. Grifters are lazy by nature. They don't actually dig into the weeds of what they think or what they pretend to think. What we saw yesterday is a bunch of people who, I believe, genuinely have a relationship with God and were putting it on display in a way that they had never done before. And the people that do that genuinely do it with an understanding deeper than anybody who's trying to play the politics of the day. And I think that's what we saw primarily yesterday. I could go on and on about this. Maybe we'll talk about it more tomorrow. But that's got to do it for us to show we're out of time. We will see you same time, same place tomorrow. Send your email tptpusa.com God bless America.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm / Carol Markowitz]

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