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Journalism Are journalists a protected class that I was unaware of? Apparently you can kind of do whatever you want and get away with it according to libs, so long as you are a journalist. The UN why does it even exist? What purpose does it serve and is it advantageous to any anyone on planet earth? Also dog voting. Apparently there are dogs voting in US elections and they wouldn't have caught it unless the lady who had her dog vote turned it in which made she ask the question how many dogs are actually voting? All that more coming up on this episode of Turning Point Tonight. My name is Joe Buck. Thanks so much for tuning in. Together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. This is Turning Point Tonight. Gotta remind you, you can email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com we got another 4Fun segment coming up at the end of the show called jokes on you. We'll explain what it is but you're going to want to have the email on file. Tptpusa.com Also thanks to Chris Hand for yesterday filling in as a guest host. My wife had my wife and I, but it really was her, she did pretty much all of the work. I was very encouraging but again she, she did the majority of it. Had a beautiful baby boy on Tuesday. Very excited. The house is so much more fun. So thanks Chris for hosting. Except for that comment saying that he looks like my wife and thank God he doesn't look like me. I, I, I'm, I'm not that good looking so I, I guess that makes sense. And I'd much rather have him look like, like, like his mom because whoo. Oh boy, she's a stunner. Anyways, thanks Chris. Really appreciate you hosting last night and yeah, we'll, we're, we're back at it. We're back on the, back in the saddle. You know, I thought this was really interesting and I recognize, you know, there's a lot other stories to get to but I think this is like a 30,000 foot view big picture type thing that I think really is important and must be understood in the light of all of the, the tragedy and the response to Charlie Kirk's assassination. This is from a guy named Glenn Harlan Reynolds, who's been talking about preference cascades, which might be a new term for you. I've been kind of like tangentially reading about it, about what it is, but I want to explain kind of what it is, but mostly read a long part of this article because I think this depicts exactly the, the attitude of the country in the wake of a terrible, terrible tragedy and what Charlie's assassination actually did for the culture and is going to do and continuing to do for the culture. This is from Glenn Harlan Reynolds. I've written before about preference cascades, where large portions of the public, often a majority, conceal their views for fear of punishment, which is something we've all seen over the last several years, several decades, even, only to reveal those views when some precipitating event takes place. Charlie's views, uniformly disparaged by the press as right wing extremism, are in fact mainstream. And we are realizing that in real time, uh, he goes on, generally held by the majority of people. His assassination has caused people to step forward and realize the normal American community is a huge majority. That is absolutely 100% correct. He was particularly hated for holding a mirror to the face of higher education, exposing the hate and, and hypocrisy on our campuses. For decades, faculty has purged the ranks of conservatives and libertarians. Faced with the intolerance of most schools, polls show that a large percentage of students hide their values to avoid retaliation from faculty and from the fellow students. Charlie chose to challenge that. TPUSA challenged people to engage and debate them effectively. What he's saying is that the majority of the country for far too long has been controlled by the minority who is very, very loud and has soaked up so much of the power. What Charlie's horrible assassination and murder has shown, and I don't necessarily even say this is silver linings, this is just a, a repercussion of that, is that the majority of Americans, thank God, do hold Charlie's opinions and hold Charlie's beliefs and our beliefs as conservatives as a whole. It's just that the minority has been screaming so loud for so long that they've made us feel like we aren't the mainstream. But like you, he said, in reality, Charlie's views and Charlie's opinions were mainstream by the quote unquote mainstream media. They were written off as right wing agitation or whatever they say. But the response to Charlie's assassination has been from the overwhelming majority of Americans. We actually agree with him and we are no longer afraid and no longer feel like we need to hide those, those opinions because. Because we are now emboldened by a terrible, terrible tragedy. Um, he goes on to say this, and I just think this is interesting to wrap this up. People are getting the courage not to hide their views, which is problematic for the left, whose strategy has consisted of using bullying and propaganda to convince 80% of the population that the views of 20% of the population are in the majority. Which is exactly what I think we've all been seeing and exactly what Charlie has been saying. And it's now coming to light with people who are unafraid to say no. I actually do agree with so many of the things Charlie said is not a fringe opinion. It's actually the opinion of the majority of the American populace. People are getting the courage not to hide their views. Oh, this is what I just read. Sorry. Um, but he wraps it up saying, not anymore. Not anymore are the American people saying, ah, you know, it's, it's gonna be difficult for me on my college campus. It's gonna be difficult with my employer if I say certain things. Now, the 20% of the minority, the loud online minority, is no longer in power. And the majority of us, the overwhelming majority of us that believe in traditional, traditional conservative American values are continuing and will continue to be emboldened again by a horrible, horrible tragedy. That is the inflection point, the turning point, if you will, from a 30,000 foot view. I recognize that this is something we've all kind of been aware of. We've all been noticing this especially, especially in the last two weeks. But the reality is this is what is happening. And it's a, it's a way to put kind of a name to what exactly is happening. Preference Cascades, which is interesting. If you have a second, go check out Glenn Harlan Reynolds. I thought that was a fantastic description of, again, what we're all feeling, but it was kind of difficult to put into words what it is. So with that, keep that in mind, you are not the minority. We are the majority. And we will take back all of the vestiges of American culture that were stolen from us by people trying to convince us that we were the crazy ones. Speaking of folks trying to convince you that you are one of the crazy ones, Jimmy Kimmel somehow got back on TV because President Trump is apparently the world's worst dictator. I say that jokingly, obviously, but if you're watching any of the media outlets the last several days, Trump is a dictator, he's a tyrant, he's a fascist, he's trying to control Speech. Well, one, I was unaware that President Trump was the CEO of ABC and had all of that power to get Jimmy Kimmel suspended. Uh, and two, if he is the dictator that all the libs are claiming he is, jeez, he's not a very good one. Uh, you know, if he was actually dictator, wouldn't Jimmy Kimmel still be off the air? But no, he returned to the screens on Tuesday night. Uh, I'm not sure if it was touched on this show specifically, but I did want to play a clip from that which I guess will inform us as to what is actually the opinion of the folks that, well, we're talking about free speech. Were they actually talking about that or were they trying to disguise their own self interest? Well, I think it's pretty telling in what Jimmy Kimmel said about what he had said that got him suspended. Watch this clip and we'll discuss.
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What it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual.
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Point I was trying to make. But I understand that to some that felt either ill timed or unclear or maybe both.
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If the situation was reversed, there's a.
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He understands. Those of us who think he pointed a finger. I was, it was pretty obvious. It's not. Oh, you know, I must have misunderstood. He, he literally said MAGA is trying to pretend that it wasn't one of their own. It's not a joke really. That's just a statement of fact. And a statement made so dismissively as to suggest. Well, of course, we all know this. What he said was reprehensible. Um, it's not necessarily against, quote, unquote, free speech, but it's against the ratings. So many affiliates said, hey, we're not going to broadcast him. And those affiliates, Sinclair and Nexar, still aren't broadcasting him. And the main thing I think that I took away from that is if you notice, there's no apology. There was no, hey, I'm sorry I said this. There was a I'm sorry you felt this way, which I don't know. Try that out on your wife next time you do something wrong. See if that works. Because usually in, in human relationships that's not the case on how really anything works. You apologize for something because you're showing contrition. Hey, I was wrong here. That's not what he said. He said, I'm Sorry you felt that way, which is different. And I've said this before. I said this last week. I disagreed with Charlie. I thought. I think Jimmy Kimmel is a relatively funny guy, but unfortunately, I've lost respect for him, as I think many people have. Yes, his ratings were way up. People have made the case. Well, Jimmy Kimmel's ratings are through the roof. 6.3 million viewers of his monologue, which is the highest ever. Yeah, it's a big news story. What's it gonna be in six months if he's still even at the network? Remember, his contract expires in May. I can't imagine Disney is gonna want the headache of having to deal with somebody that they pay $15 million a year and cost this much of a headache. I just don't see that happening. The bottom line here is he said what he said and then claimed, Well, I wasn't blaming any specific group, but. But you were. And look, we. We can show, you know, grace for people who then apologize for it, but he didn't do that either. And while, you know, I don't necessarily think Jimmy Kimmel is unfunny, and I recognize it's not an opinion that a lot of you hold, it's not opinion that Charlie held. I can't respect a guy who won't apologize for something that he clearly did wrong and instead tries to gaslight everyone saying, well, I didn't. We have it on video. You did say it. And at the very least, you can apologize for what you did. Not apologize for how we felt, because we felt something that was real based on the specific thing that he said. And the least that they could do is apologize for it, but that's not the case. I would be willing to place a large sum of money on the fact that the ratings will not stay where they are. And only time will tell if this is going to be something that the American people will accept. I hope it is not. We got a lot on the way, including some safe and secure elections that we'll talk about. The UN Is freaking useless. I know Chris talked about that yesterday, but there's a specific point here that I think I'd like to try and make regarding the United nations and their pleas for peace around the world. Also talk to Monica Pace, turning points, White House correspondent. We'll talk about journalism and why. Apparently, if you're a journalist, you can get away with anything nowadays. I wasn't sure that was in the Constitution, but apparently it is if you're a lib. All that and more coming up tptp USA.com is the email. Be right back after the break.
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Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. The email is tptpusa. You're going to want to have that, especially in the last segment. We're going to do something fun and new. So TPTP USA.com send all of your thoughts, comments, concerns. Don't, don't send criticisms that we don't, we don't want the criticism. We don't want the criticism. We have thoughts, comments and concerns. But tpt@tpusa.com California, where sanity goes to die, has done another thing that only California can do. They passed a bill and it was signed into law by Governor Gavin Newsom that banned officials, ICE officials or any sort of law enforcement, most law enforcement, from wearing masks because, well, you know, doxing is not a problem at all. There's nobody online that would send pictures of ICE agents to the Internet to say, hey, this is where this guy lives. Here's his family. Especially in these definitely calm political rhetoric times, of course, that wouldn't happen. So why would police officers want to wear masks in any way, shape or form? This is Gavin Newsom on Stephen Colbert's show talking about apparently so he was very pro mask. Now he's anti mask. I just, my money is on him going back to anti mask when it suits him. But here's him on Colbert. Watch this. That's happening in the United States of America. Masked men jumping out of unmarked cars, people disappearing, no due process, no oversight, zero accountability happening in the United States of America today. People ask, well, is authoritarianism. You're being hyperbolic. Bull. We're being hyperbolic. If you're a black and brown community.
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And so I, I'm deeply proud that I had the privilege of signing the nation's first bill to address the issue of masking. Yeah, that's not going to terrify people at all, Gavin. Hey, black and brown folks, you might be disappeared by masked police or are they trying to protect themselves from lefty lunatics that put all their information online or shoot. Wait, should I be scared? I live in California. Are they going to, the masked police going to pick me up? I am an American citizen. So there's, I guess there's that. If I were here illegally, maybe I would be concerned. But Gavin there making some comments that are ridiculous at, at Best and awful at worst. The problem is for Gavin Newsom in California is that when this is not a problem is actually a great thing the federal government has said. Yeah, we don't care what you say. We don't have to listen to you in any way, shape or form. Here's Acting U.S. attorney Bill A.S. saleh, who's a friend, actually commenting on whether or not immigration officials are going to listen to the edicts of Governor King tyrant Gavin Newsom. Watch this. We will not comply.
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Them, and we don't take orders from the state of California. That's not how this works. They have absolutely no jurisdiction. They have no say over the affairs of the federal government.
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That's not how this works. Yeah, I. Which I love. I love the federal government going, oh, yeah, pound, pound sand. Gavin, your dumb law that you passed doesn't apply to us, so we're just not gonna listen. Which is hilarious if you think about it. So in California, law enforcement, in. In all law enforcement, I think at the state level is a sanctuary state. So you can't assist federal government in arresting someone who's here illegally. But by California law, and again, this is not going to be followed. You can arrest somebody who was arresting somebody who's here legally if that person is wearing a face mask of any. In any way, shape or form. Uh, so think about this. If. If ICE is tackling a criminal illegal, the police in California is only legally allowed to attack the ICE guy who's attacking the criminal or who's trying to arrest the criminal who. Which again, is an insane way to look at things and an insane way to govern a society. Now, the workaround here, obviously, is if, If. If all of the officers have Covid. Which, by the way, you know, I. You know, I. I know several ICE agents who have recently contracted the Fauci fever who need to wear masks and therefore can get around the stupid law that they're going to avoid anyway. So California, yet again, where common sense and reality goes to die. And also in California. This is just gonna be a California segment. Elections so safe and secure that a dog could vote. Literally, there are dogs voting in California. And the twist at the end of this is actually really interesting. So stay tuned. I want you to watch this clip from NBC4 about a lady who registered her dog to vote and that dog's vote actually counted in real elections. Remember, elections are safe and secure. There's no tampering. There's no fraud anywhere. It's, it's all above board. And also this dog voted multiple times. Watch this clip from NBC4 and we will, we'll discuss the small part in there. They do mention it in here but nobody else is talking about this. Check this out.
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Registration form obtained by NBC4 for Maya Jean Yoruba of Costa Mesa.
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But this is a photo of Maya.
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Jean Yoricks, a boxer breed who allegedly.
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Voted in two elections after Orange county.
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Laura Yoricks attorneys say she self reported.
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Her alleged actions to the registrar of Voters in October.
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To expose flaws in our state voting system, intending to improve it by demonstrating that even a dog can be registered to vote. Maya has since passed away. Her voting record shows the dog's vote in the California 2021 gubernatorial election to recall Gavin Newsom was successfully counted. The Orange County District Attorney's office confirms the dog's vote in the 2022 primary election ballot was rejected. Okay, so a dog is apparently able to vote in California and specifically in California since they don't purge the voting rules. Well since the dog has passed I feel like they're still going to be voting anyway. But here's the thing that I think everybody missed in this whole story. It's been covered relatively widely. I just you know, wanted to talk about here because I don't see anybody talking about this. The lady self reported the woman accused of having her dog vote and those votes being counted reported herself out of some sort of fear of being, you know, prosecuted or found out in some way, shape or form. She reported she turned herself in effectively meaning that they didn't catch it in real time. The, the, the people that are in charge of making sure that the elections are safe and secure didn't catch the dog voting. And had this lady not been an honest person who by supported the recall of Gavin Newsom, they wouldn't have found out. What does that say about the system that we currently have if a dog voting counts? And nobody would have figured out let's this lady self reported well what kind of a system are we running here Actually you know, there's even an argument to be made that this lady was just following a senator's advice. She wasn't even trying to exploit for flaws in the system. She actually was following Senator Elizabeth Warren's advice saying that dogs can in fact vote. Watch this.
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Bailey oh, greetings, Bailey.
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Say hello, Bailey.
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And we love Bailey. Bailey is definitely going to vote in November and he's voting Democrats all the way.
Joe Bob
Bailey for Biden.
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So we had to start with Bailey out here on the porch. It's good to see you.
Joe Bob
Wow. Sounds like the senator from Massachusetts is attempting to commit voter fraud, which is a bad thing again, especially in an election system that is so safe and so secure, so, so easy. Apparently, a dog could do it. Now, it remains to be seen, you know what's going to end up happening here. This lady apparently faces like six years in prison if convicted. It's, you know, who knows how that's going to shake out, But I don't know, maybe that should be part of her defense. Hey, look, I was just following the senator from Massachusetts saying, oh, yeah, my dog can vote. That's a. That's totally a thing that is possible to happen. I'm glad we do have a minute left to. To bring this on. This is. This has to do with the mask story. So we're. We're past the voting dogs, back to the masks. It was kind of related, but it wasn't entirely sure we're gonna have enough time for it, and we aren't if I keep talking about it, uh, regarding masks, and especially regarding Covid and the un, which we'll talk more about in just a second. I want you to watch this clip. This is Violet Affleck, Ben Affleck's daughter, for some reason saying that the entire world should continue masking.
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I am terrified for the children who do not or soon will not know a world without debilitating pain and exhaustion, who cannot trust their bodies to play, explore and imagine, and who will not know the potential of their own minds, unfettered by the cognitive damage from a COVID 19 infection. And I am curious on their behalf. It is neglect of the highest order to look children in the eyes and say, we knew how to protect you and we didn't do it.
Joe Bob
Insert this into next segments. Argument as to why the UN is useless. Also coming up, we'll find out what Britney Spears, his nephew, thinks about climate change. I don't know, man. What. What kind of world are we living in that the dogs are voting. They're outlawing masks for people being doxed and saying we should wear masks because COVID 19 the Fauci fever is still such a horrible thing at the un, which is a useless debating society. The world is topsy turvy. The only way to right the ship is to brace yourself into sanity, which is what we're doing here at Turning Point tonight. Got a lot more show coming up. We're gonna check in with Monica Page at the White House as well as talk about the one job that is makes you exempt from all things law related. It's journalism. Journalism. Journalists are exempt from everything. Don't go away. I'll be right back after the break.
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Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. Let's check in with Turning Point's White House correspondent Monica Page at the White House. Monica, a lot of things going on this week, specifically the big conversation. This is like the 30,000 foot view is this discussion over radical extremist left wing violence, which, you know, unfortunately has become a huge problem. It already was a problem. And it's obviously become bigger and bigger and bigger. What is the administration looking to tackle in terms of trying to get this under control?
Monica Pace
Yeah, well, we heard the president himself in the Oval Office this afternoon asking, or, I'm sorry, answering a reporter's question asking just that what is to blame for this rise in left wing violence? And the president blamed rhetoric on the left specifically when you hear, you know, specific people like Jasmine Crockett and others and her kind of ball, ball playing field over there that kind of say the same things over and over. You can also blame people like Kamala Harris, who has been saying for quite some time that, you know, President Trump is a dictator. The left wing are deplorables that, excuse me, the right wing are deplorables. We as Trump supporters are, you know, the enemy. And these are kind of things that have been attributed to maybe some of the violence that we've been seeing. The president says so he's looking to maybe try to see what he can do. And cracking down on this, there are a number of us here at the White House, honestly, who are ready to say let's declare this a national emergency because this has been going on for way too long. I mean, we've already seen our own boss, CEO Charlie Kirk, be killed and now we're seeing more attacks on ice facilities. I mean, we saw it in Portland. We saw it in L. A. Now we're actually seeing it more in Texas, too. So what's going to put a stop to this? How do we eradicate this once and for all? So I think we're going to hear a lot more from the president this week. I think he's got some more things up his sleeve. We're going to hear from the president at least a couple of times the rest of this week and maybe even into next week on those next steps. But a lot of us are kind of like, what, what do we do now? Because we can talk, we can say this is bad, we can condemn this, but what are we going to actually do? And that's the big question.
Joe Bob
You know, it's one thing, too, to say, hey, political violence on all sides is bad, which, yes, we 100% agree with that. But to say that it's not happening on one side than the other is just being blind to reality. And, you know, it's going to take some help from people on the opposite side of the political aisle to get this under control, considering that, you know, unfortunately there, there's an overwhelming majority coming from that side, too. And again, all political violence is bad on all sides, but it's coming from one side in a higher frequency than the other. You know, to switch gears entirely and maybe, maybe even a little bit of levity here, President Trump went to the UN yesterday. I know Chris talked quite a bit about his actual speech there. Escalator gate, Monica, is there going to be any sort of repercussions, any sort of consequences from escalator gate, genuinely speaking? What are people on the ground there saying? Do they think it's a. It's a ploy to embarrass Trump? And what, what is the president saying?
Monica Pace
Yeah, I mean, as you can see in this, in the video, I mean, it doesn't look good. It's a complete embarrassment. I remember when I first saw the clip, when it came out, I was thinking about how the first lady was feeling. I was like, oh, my God, she's probably mortified. Getting up on the escalator and then it just stops moving. But the White House is doubling down on the actions to investigate what exactly happened, because the Times posted over the weekend that a couple of globalist UN members over there were joking about, oh, how funny would it be if we actually stopped the escalator from moving while they're on it? And this was kind of a joke and the Times was ahead of it, but now we actually saw it happen. So one can only think this was planned. I mean, you not only had the escalator stop moving, but then you had the teleprompter go out and Then there were reports from the actual inside of the building where the President was speaking that the volume was a lot lower and maybe sounded a little bit more deformed than some of the other speakers. So there's a lot to unfold here. There's a lot to unpack here. And I think that the press secretary said that she's working with the Secret Service and she wants to look into it herself. What actually happened, who was behind this. Because it always seems like whenever the President wants to do something, there's always somebody out there who tries to make the President look bad, who tries to do something to kind of fudge the plan here. And it's really upsetting. And I think a lot of people are seeing right through these attempts, so I'm excited to see what comes next.
Joe Bob
Yeah, it's one of those things, too, that it's like, effectively, it's meaningless, like it doesn't really mean anything. And at the same time, it means a whole lot of things if this is something that continually and consistently happens. So, yeah, I'm actually curious to see, even though it seems kind of trivial, like, what do we care about an escalator? It's emblematic of something that's been going on, trying to halt the President and really everything that he does. So I'm fascinated to see Monica Pace, Trainpoint's White House correspondent. We'll love to check in with you again on that story and so many others tomorrow. See you then.
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Thanks, Joe.
Joe Bob
Bob, thank you. Yesterday, we talked about, or Chris talked about the UN and what Trump said and gave him a tongue lashing to all those foreigners, which is great. We love to see that sort of thing. But one of the things that I think is fascinating about the United nations, and I think he touched on this a little bit yesterday, the fact that it's entirely useless. George W. Bush called it a useless debate society. Maybe that's what it should be called, the uds instead of the United nations, the un. Uh, well, why is it a useless debate society? Well, let me give you an opinion that. That I have. Um, I firmly believe that Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie should get back together. I am 100% for it. I think we should all be for it as Americans and as civilization as a whole. Now you might be asking, well, why would. Why would they care what you have to think? Well, that's exactly the point I'm trying to make with the UN which is a useless debate society. All of the things that the countries around the world say mean nothing. If the countries Involved, don't care about it. The same way that I can out figure fervently promote the reunification of Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt means nothing. Evangeline, Chile and Brad Pitt don't want to get back together. A huge percentage unfortunately of the western countries have now said well we are supporting a two state solution. I want to play this clip from the UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer about that being making these big announcements on the the global UN meetings. Watch this and we will discuss the the anal that I'm making with to two movie stars and whether or not they have any interest whatsoever. Check this out.
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Oh well, great, great. Now Australia, I think New Zealand, Canada have all gotten on board a bunch of these first world countries saying we want peace in Israel and Gaza and therefore we support a two state solution. Well, here's the problem Prime Minister and all of the other countries around the world, you know who doesn't support the two state solution? The two states. Well what are we even talking about here? Israel says no, absolutely not. Hamas and Gaza and Palestine all not. No, no, absolutely not. So what are we doing? What is the point of making these grand statements of we support this initiative? Okay, well the two people that would be required in this initiative have no interest in the initiative that you're presenting. So what's the point in presenting it? I can scream at the top of my lungs, I want Brad and Angelina. Brad, Jolina needs to get back together. But if those two have no interest in getting back together, what am I doing? I realize that's a ridiculous example, but what are we trying to prove? Who are we trying to prove things to? With all of these countries that are our allies supposedly turning their back on the way that we see the war in the Middle east and saying well yeah, we, we actually are going to try and go this direction instead. I don't know if they're just trying to appease all of the Muslims that they've let into their country and get them to stop screaming at them, which I would also say is well that's your fault. Why did you let the third world into your country? That's not my problem. What you should be doing is trying to deal in reality rather than make statements that have no meaning whatsoever. Like I said, the United nations is a useless debate society. Even further than that, I'd like to play another clip from that same clip from Keir Starmer The UK Prime Minister, in which he goes on to kind of say what it is that he's actually meaning. Watch cut 9.
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Okay, so that Palestinian state that you're recognizing, what exactly is it, by the way? Just what it, what is the Palestinian state? Is there a government that's been functional there? Are there treaties? Are there international relations that they have? What, what are we talking about? You've joined 150 countries to recognize something that doesn't exist. Look, I, I want peace. I'm not even taking a hard stance on the war in the Middle East. Obviously, I'd rather see the Western country prevail. I'm not talking about whether the United States should give them more money. I'm not talking about this, that, the other thing, not talking about aipac. I'm just talking about the rest of the world's response and how it is not based in the reality of the situation. Nobody cares of all of the floofy statements that you make if there's no semblance of reality in the quote, unquote suggestions that you're making or what you want. It doesn't matter what you want if neither of the two sides are willing to participate in your resolution that your country passed. It is ridiculous. I have been saying this for a while and this will. This is the ending of this rant. I realize I'm getting a little worked up here because of how stupid this is. Why is the UN a thing? Why do we. Why do we house the un? Why do we pay for pretty much everything the UN does? And why do we allow the rest of the world to come into this country and say, hey, the United States is doing things wrong? Especially when we know for a fact that the things that they're suggesting aren't based in reality. So it's clearly not going to work. Somebody sent an email and I think this is appropriate. And all it said was deport the un. Sure, I'm cool with that. Let's get the UN out of this country. Let's get them. Let's stop pretending that every country in the world is the same. It has the same voice and their opinion matters just as much as ours. It doesn't matter. The is a joke. It is a useless debate, society. Always has been, always will be. Let's deport them. That email was sent, by the way, to TPTP USA.com where you can also email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com Coming up next we're going to talk about journalism and the fact that if you're a journalist, you can do anything you want according to a bunch of the libs, and especially how they're treating some of their their journalism hills to die on for some reason. It's not it's not actually censorship in any way, shape or form. What it really is is them trying to get their point across by calling somebody a journalist, which I'm explaining too much. You'll find out next segment. Don't go. We'll be right back after the break.
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Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. TPTPUSA.com is the email that you're going to want to send some stuff there because we're doing a cool, fun, interesting thing in the last segment of the show called jokes on you. Stay tuned. That's going to be very fun, but you're going to want to have the email tptpusa.com send in your thoughts, your comments, your criticisms, even tptp USA.com you know, I was unaware. Apparently certain professions just make it make everything acceptable. If you're a journalist, for instance, you can just do anything you want, whenever you want, wherever you want, and there should be no punishment whatsoever. That is, I feel like the case that the libs are making for this guy named Mario Guevara who is here illegally. But, but they call him a journalist. Therefore we should let him out of the country or out of prison for some reason or out of ice detention. Here to comment on that and a couple other journalist stories is political commentator Lydia Schaefer. Lydia, so just to set this up, this guy, this guy was arrested at a no Kings protest. The local law enforcement charged him with obstructing law enforcement officers, unlawful assembly, uh, and being in a pedestrian walking road and a bunch of other different things. Those charges have been dropped. But the federal government said, wait, this guy's here illegally? And therefore have been holding him since that arrest. But for some reason, the New York Times and a bunch of outlets. Well, he's a journalist, Lydia. I, I guess I'm, I'm, I must be missing that part of the Constitution that says, you know, everybody's treated equally, justice will be served. Unless, of course, you are a journalist, in which case you can do Whatever you want. A guy's been here legally since 2012, said, hey, you got to get out of here. He never left. Why, for some reason, do libs take this in a different direction depending on someone's profession?
Lydia Schaefer
It's wild. Like, they're freaking out, aren't they? And look, no one, no one is saying journalists shouldn't have the right to cover protests like they're. Like they're claiming. But that doesn't give anyone a free pass to skirt immigration law. If you're in this country illegally, even if you're holding a microphone, you still have to follow the law. This isn't freedom of press being under attack. We're talking about illegal immigration. If you want to work in America, build a brand, make a living, you do it the legal way. That's what real immigrants do.
Joe Bob
Yeah, and even the New York Times reported, well, okay, so he's not in the country legally, but he does have a work permit, and I think they also said he had a Social Security number. Okay, well, if you. Yeah, go to these blue states that just give anybody a driver's license, a work permit, or whatever it is, I don't even know how that negates anything effectively. Again, I don't quite understand the idea of. Well, you know what this reminds me of? This reminds me of when any. Any hospital, any. Any building that is attacked in Gaza is all of a sudden a hospital. We don't need to get into that whole tangent, but the. The verbiage there feels like it's fuzzy. What I don't know is do you think this sort of stuff is going to stick? Do you think people, especially now, are going to start seeing, kind of through all of this?
Lydia Schaefer
I would certainly hope so. I mean, ICE didn't wake up one day and say, let's deport a reporter. They followed up on our record from 2012. The fact that this person was still in the United States more than a decade later, covering protests against the. Against law enforcement. That's just ironic. First they want open borders. Then they want illegal immigrants to vote. Now they want illegal immigrants to become activists and journalists with full protection from law enforcement.
Joe Bob
Yeah, I don't quite understand making the case of, like, whoa, arresting journalists? No, arresting a guy who was here illegally, who, by the way, is like, a TikTok journalist. I'm not trying to, like, diminish, you know, his reach, but he's got a bunch of social media followers, and, you know, I don't. I don't know how much that counts. You can call anybody A journalist, if that's the qualifications. Lydia, speaking of journalism, we call, we talked about this last week. There's somebody named Karen Attia who I was unfamiliar with, but she was fired from the Washington Post for saying, taking an entire thing out of context. She basically said, Charlie Kirk said that black women don't have the brain power and therefore have to, to take a white person's job. I want to play this clip again just to keep that in context and then tell you what she's up to. Now watch this. You really have to wonder, in fact, you know, if, if we would have said three weeks ago, Blake, if we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called the racist. But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us. They're coming out and they're saying, I'm only here because of affirmative action. Yeah, we know you do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person slot to go be taken somewhat seriously. Play cut 52. That's all. That's all. We need to hear about that. That's again, the full context. Basically Charlie saying, hey, yeah, you're pushing dei, which effectively says this thing. She obviously took that entirely out of context and was fired for it. Lydia, it seems to me if you're going to be that out of context and you're not gonna understand the context in which you're quoting somebody, it's not for. Because you're, you know, celebrating the death of an assassination, a political assassination. That, that, I mean, that's horrible. But really what it seems to me is they got fired for being a terrible journalist. At least that's what I, the way I'm looking at it. How about you?
Lydia Schaefer
I completely agree with you and I mean, I hate to get off script here, but can I, can I read you one other thing that she, that she also said. Sure, go ahead, I've got it right here. She, one of her posts said, refusing to tear my clothes and smear ashes on my face and performative mourning for a white man that espoused violence is not the same as violence. She made it clear in that post that she wasn't mourning Charlie's death. She was justifying it. When you say someone espoused violence and then say, don't expect me to mourn, you're trying to rationalize that murder.
Joe Bob
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's a terrible thing to say. But again, I think, I think she was fired because she's clearly doesn't know how to think. Now, the update here and the reason why we're re retalking about this story is because she's apparently set to sue the Washington Post. She's lawyering up. The letter that she wrote to the Washington Post says her lawyer said she spoke truthfully and forcefully about matters of vital public contact or public concern, which. Okay, I think we just proved the point that that's not exactly what happened. She is, then, yeah, she's going to continue to sue. This, I thought also that was interesting. I want to bring this tweet up. This is former President Barack Obama saying, this is precisely the kind of government coercion that the First Amendment was designed to prevent and the media companies need to start standing up rather than capitulating to it. Him then saying, well, for some reason, this is Trump's fault. Not, not the fact that she said something awful, not the fact that she journalistically said something blatantly untrue. It's Donald Trump. Did Lydia, did you know that Donald Trump also runs the Washington Post? He also runs abc, as well as being the President of the United States? I was unaware of that, was unaware of the immense power that he had in all of these sorts of companies. Or is it the fact that they're trying to blame somebody for something that he didn't have anything to do with?
Lydia Schaefer
Well, I mean, it's always Trump's fault. Didn't you know that? I mean, yes, it's, it's pretty hilarious. She wasn't fired for disagreement. She was fired for hatred, wrapped in opinion. You know what I mean? I mean, and in. Ultimately, the root of this is like, everything she's saying is it's evil, it's not journalism. I mean, and now she's doubling down. No apology, no retraction, just more race baiting and victim blaming. That's why she was fired, and rightfully so.
Joe Bob
She, she did. Just so we can have this on record, getting this straight, she did correct her misquote of Charlie, but that was after she was fired. And so, yeah, my, my contention still is, like, it's not for what you said because of your opinions. It's because you just, you ran your mouth saying things that are blatantly untrue. And that's actually looked down upon in the line of journalism. I, you know, I'm, I'm a comedian. I don't necessarily call myself a journalist, but I have a lot more intellectual integrity than that. I at least would hope. Lydia, final thoughts here.
Lydia Schaefer
Well, I mean this is why people don't trust the media. It's not journalism anymore, it's activism dressed up in bias and hate. So honestly, this is just a lot more of the same what we've been seeing for quite some time. I just hope that people are waking up to it now.
Joe Bob
Yeah, yeah, one can only hope. And you know what? Honestly, after all of the things that have happened, not to put the tragedy in any sort of a brighter light, it, it looks like people are going to start waking up. And I hope that, well, as many have said before, this is a turning point. Lydia Schaefer, thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time.
Lydia Schaefer
Thank you for having me.
Joe Bob
Thank you. Coming up next here in a couple segments, we're going to do this new thing called Jokes on youn. You're going to want to have the email tptpusa.com We've talked a lot about. Well, I'll save that for a little bit. We'll be right back after the break.
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Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. You know you can always email the show tptpusa.com, we love seeing all of your emails, thoughts, comments, concerns, not criticism. But also if you have some criticism, feel free to throw it in the email tptpusa.com sorry, paused there because I was gonna go through like go straight immediately to the social media platforms if you follow me on social media, which you should, by the way. Jobob. There's not many jobobs out there and especially not brown ones and especially ones that have all their teeth. You can find a bunch of the stuff that we're doing in kind of preparation for the show and also some of the stuff that have been posting which, you know, I've been posting a lot of different videos of Charlie and myself and explained this yesterday in a post. Every time we seem to be on camera, we always happen to be laughing and I think that's one of the big things that is so often missed when we're talking about Charlie. Obviously he was an incredible debater, he's an incredible mind, an incredibly serious person when he needed to be. But he also had a funny side. That's why we got this show. That's why we're doing this. It was like a lighter take on the news. And I understand the last couple weeks have not necessarily been that. Hopefully there's still some snark and sarcasm that peeps through. But Charlie loved to laugh, and that's why I think we're gonna start doing this, you know, in the memory of him being able to be funny and in kind of remembering those moments where I was a funny dude and he loved to laugh. So this is going to be called Jokes on you. This is the first time we're doing it. If you follow us on social media, jobob, really any platform. Also Turning Point Tonight has a YouTube channel. Be sure to check that out because we do a lot of extra content there that you're going to want to take a look at. But if you're following on social media, we're putting out these types of videos and saying, hey, give us a response. Jokes on you. Let us know what you would make as a joke to this particular video. I'm not going to talk too much more because that's. That's it. That's the explanation. Follow us on social media so you can find it. Uh, this is the first one of those jokes on you, Jasmine Crockett. And then we'll get to some of the jokes that you all submitted. Watch this, and we'll discuss.
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And so I do want people to.
Joe Bob
Know that just because someone has committed a crime, it doesn't make them a criminal. Just because someone has committed a crime, doesn't make them a criminal. Some of the jokes submitted by you, and I'm going to keep this anonymous. And also I'm going to say don't blame me if some of these are offensive. It's not. I didn't write these. Okay. Don't blame me. In no particular order. Uh, they're not criminals. They're just crime. Curious. It's funny. That's funny. That's. Well, we'll get. I'm not gonna grade all of these. That's a good one. Someone else inputted. Just because I went to an expensive private school doesn't mean I can fake Ebonics. You heard Jasmine Crockett talk before she was elected to Congress. Sounds like a normal, everyday American. Now she sounds like she did it. All right, that's an act. You're not. You don't actually sound like that. Somebody said this one. Just because you eat people doesn't make you a cannibal. You know, I think it does. I think it does. But I understand the humor you're making. This one's in the weeds. It's not in the weeds. This is a very ubiquitous clip. If you know it, you know it. If you don't, you don't. I'm not no musician. I make music. Get. If you get it, you get it. If you don't, you don't. I thought, I thought this was really funny. 160 years later, Jasmine Crockett admits reparations aren't actually necessary because having slaves didn't necessarily make you a slave owner. That's good. You guys are funny again. Go follow us on social media so you can submit these jokes. So yesterday, how it worked, we put this clip into the chat and then said, fire away. These are the. These are the best ones that came out of this. This is. This. I don't condone this sort of behavior. I gotta go fast. Ms. Crockett thinks that just because you committed a crime doesn't make you a criminal. That's great news since I recently stole her car. Good. That's a good joke. This one. I did not write this. This one. Dang it. We don't really have time for it. Go follow on social media for the follow up joke to all of this. But jokes on you find me on social media, Instagram, Facebook, specifically where you get to the Joe Bob chat. That's where we send all of these. You can send your jokes in and have a chance on making the jokes on you here. That's gonna do it for us here at Turning Point tonight. Thanks so much for Chris for filling in yesterday. Congrats to the wife and the new baby boy and I guess myself appreciate you sticking around, tuning in. We will see you tomorrow same time, same place. God bless America.
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Episode Date: September 26, 2025
Host: Joe Bob
Notable Guests: Monica Pace (Turning Point White House Correspondent), Lydia Schaefer (Political Commentator)
This episode of "Turning Point Tonight" on Real America's Voice, hosted by Joe Bob, dives into a range of pressing sociopolitical topics through a conservative lens. Central themes include the cultural aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination, the concept of "preference cascades," current debates on free speech and media accountability, immigration law conflicts between federal and state authorities, election integrity (including a segment on "dog voting"), the perceived ineffectiveness of the United Nations, and the protection of journalists. The episode also features a new community comedy segment, "Jokes on You," inviting listener engagement and humor.
30,000-foot View: Joe Bob opens with reflections on how the assassination of Charlie Kirk has galvanized conservative voices rather than silencing them.
Key Quote:
“Charlie's views, uniformly disparaged by the press as right-wing extremism, are in fact mainstream. And we are realizing that in real time... His assassination has caused people to step forward and realize the normal American community is a huge majority.”
— Joe Bob, citing Glenn Harlan Reynolds (06:25)
Analysis: The show argues this tragedy marks a cultural shift, with conservatives emboldened to reclaim American values from a "loud online minority."
Segment Recap: Discussion of Jimmy Kimmel’s recent return to air and controversial remarks about MAGA supporters.
Key Quote:
“He said, ‘I’m sorry you felt that way,’ which is different. Try that out on your wife next time you do something wrong. See if that works.”
— Joe Bob (13:45)
Insight: Joe Bob criticizes the lack of genuine contrition and predicts that Kimmel’s ratings boost is temporary, suggesting Americans won’t accept apparent double standards.
“We have no duty to comply with [California law]... that’s not how this works. They have absolutely no jurisdiction.” (21:06)
“They didn’t catch the dog voting... What does that say about the system we currently have if a dog's vote counts and nobody would have figured out unless this lady self-reported?”
— Joe Bob (25:20)
“What are we even talking about here? Israel says, ‘No, absolutely not.’ Hamas and Gaza and Palestine all—‘No, absolutely not.’ So what are we doing?”
— Joe Bob (39:07)
Discussion: Focus on journalist Mario Guevara, arrested at a protest and found to be in the U.S. illegally.
Question Posed: “Since when does holding a microphone exempt you from immigration law?”
Guest Lydia Schaefer: Argues that journalism shouldn't offer immunity from the law (49:05).
Notable Quote:
“If you want to work in America, build a brand, make a living, you do it the legal way. That's what real immigrants do.”
— Lydia Schaefer (49:29)
Washington Post Firing & Lawsuit: Segment on Karen Attia, who was dismissed by the Post for misquoting Charlie Kirk and allegedly justifying violence. She is suing, claiming "truthful, forceful" speech on public issues. Joe Bob and Lydia assert this is a case of egregious misrepresentation, not simple disagreement (53:37–56:04).
On Preference Cascades:
“People are getting the courage not to hide their views... the overwhelming majority of us believe in traditional, conservative American values.”
— Joe Bob quoting Glenn Harlan Reynolds (06:25)
On Media Accountability:
“We have it on video. You did say it. And at the very least, you can apologize for what you did, not apologize for how we felt.”
— Joe Bob on Jimmy Kimmel (14:30)
On California Law:
“California: where common sense and reality goes to die.”
— Joe Bob (22:55)
On the UN:
“The United Nations is a useless debate society. Even further than that...”
— Joe Bob (38:32)
On Journalism as a ‘Get Out of Jail Free’ Card:
“Apparently certain professions just make everything acceptable. If you’re a journalist... you can do anything you want, whenever you want, wherever you want, and there should be no punishment whatsoever.”
— Joe Bob (47:45)
| Timestamp | Segment Topic | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:07 | Intro: Main topics and the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination | | 06:10 | Discussion on preference cascades and “mainstream” conservative values | | 11:26 | Jimmy Kimmel’s controversy and free speech debate | | 18:19 | California’s mask ban for law enforcement; federal-state conflict on immigration | | 23:36 | "Dog Voting" story: election integrity and flaws exposed | | 27:34 | Violet Affleck's pro-masking clip and critique thereof | | 31:56 | Monica Pace (White House) on political violence and “escalator-gate” at the UN | | 38:56 | United Nations as an ineffective global body — two-state solution discussion | | 47:08 | "Are journalists a protected class?" Segment; Mario Guevara case | | 53:02 | Karen Attia vs. The Washington Post: misquotes, legal action, and media credibility | | 62:11 | "Jokes on You" Segment — audience-submitted jokes on political soundbites |
Joe Bob concludes with a tone of cautious optimism, suggesting that the events of recent weeks (notably Charlie Kirk's assassination) are emboldening mainstream Americans to speak out against a perceived media and political elite. The episode blends serious cultural critique with satire and community engagement, encapsulated in the "Jokes on You" segment—a nod to the importance of keeping humor alive even in turbulent times.
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