Governor Tina Kotek (7:28)

President Trump's inconceivable insistence that we need federal troops in Portland does not address the real concerns in our communities. We do not need or want federal troops in Oregon. Stoking fear, creating conflict, and frankly, escalating a situation that is under control.

Joe Bob (7:50)

Yeah. You know, the last thing that you want to do is escalate a situation in which the peace guillotine is on fire. Of course that's the only thing that the troops will do. They're not there to protect federal facilities. They're there to. I don't know. I can't even. You can't even be sarcastic. This is why I think the Babylon B has the most difficult job in the world. They're trying to satirize the something that is so absurd that nobody would believe it if you were just telling them straight up like this. It is insane that these wackadoodles think oh no, Portland is totally safe. We've all seen the videos. I think I tweeted somebody yesterday like do you guys have the Internet? Like can you see any of the things? This is the mob outside of the facility that Ron Wyden said. Well this is, this is all peaceful here. They're sitting there blocking vehicles and eventually will have to get pulled pushed out of the way. And what happens when the federal officials come out and say hey, you guys need to move? Well, the, the rioters in their gas masks with their Batman umbrella for some reason, I don't know why the umbrellas always show up there, start chucking fireworks at em like what are we talking about here? Like oh yeah, we have to use armed security of federal forces to get a car to drive through. Uh, and of course, yeah, throwing fireworks at people, that's, that's just peaceful. There's nothing again, nothing going on here that is necessitates any show force from the federal government with people attacking federal property to begin with. I want to play that last clip from the governor. They where she reached doubles down effectively on her not necessary that the Trump, Trump administration needs to send in any sort of reinforcements. Check this out.

Governor Tina Kotek (9:35)

In my conversations directly with President Trump and Secretary Noem, I have been abundantly clear with them that Portland and the state of Oregon believe in the rule of law and we can manage our own local public safety needs. There is no insurrection, there is no threat to national security and there is no need for military troops in our major city.

Joe Bob (10:06)

Was anybody accusing them of that? Trump said in the Truth Post, hey, the ICE facilities are under attack and we're going to go reinforced and make sure that the federal property isn't toppled by your gang of crazy antifa rioters. And the governor says there is not a threat to national security. That's not what anyone was talking about, lady. There's not an insurrection. Okay, but there are people throwing fireworks at federal officials at federal properties. That, that, that's ridiculous. And then there's a. We believe in the rule of law. Okay, okay, good luck trying to convince the American people who again have the Internet and can see all of the videos and that that is true and that's the case. Oregon is just trying to, to follow the law and it's just so difficult when President Trump says, hey, you have to follow the law. We, we oppose them following the law and we will follow the law ourselves even though we don't follow the law. And Portland is known for rioting. That's all there is to say about that. It is ridiculous. Up there in Portland, we pray for the safety of all of the ICE agents and any federal agents that have to go into that God forsaken hellhole. Basically, that is Portland. Even though that congresswoman shared a nice picture of that nice park, there are actual violence going on there and we should be aware of it and support our troops there. If they need to protect federal property, which is what President Trump said they are going to do. Coming up here, we're going to talk a lot. We're going to talk to Stephanie Hamill, political commentator about Gavin Newsom and his Twitter insanity. I think the Babylon B producer Glenn told me that Gavin needs to stop doing meth before he tweets or posts pictures on the Internet, which seems to be accurate. But guess what? It's not actually him who is behind the Governor Newsom social media chaos. It's, it's exactly who you'd think it is. We're also going to talk to Turning Point, a White House correspondent Monica Page about Netanyahu's meeting with Trump today and also the big generals meeting going on tomorrow at Quantico. We're going to hit Kamala Harris. Hit on Kamala Harris. Wow, that didn't come out either. Hit on the Kamala Harris story, Not going to hit on Kamala Harris. My wife would be very upset. The story that she is still giving speeches and her protege that we highlighted last week is making the rounds as well. There's so much to get to email us. TPT USA.com we love hearing your thoughts, comments, concerns, criticisms, even TPTP USA.com don't go away. We'll be right back after the break. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback through mockery of bad ideas. Remember, you can email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com Give us your thoughts, comments, concerns, opinions, even. Tptpusa.com we love seeing all of your emails and we'll hope to get to some of those a little bit later on in the show. You know what I think a lot of people have been paying attention to is Governor dictator tyrant Gavin Newsom. And I say those terms of course, lightly, but also somewhat seriously. This is the guy that shut down the entire state but still decided to Go eat dinner with his friends at a ritzy, ritzy restaurant. Governor Newsom and his digital team. Now, I think we're all probably aware, I don't need to fill you in and summarize the entire thing flat you, but Governor Newsom, who is clearly running for president, has been super active on social media, more active than really anybody could be, even if he was doing it himself. It's no secret that top politicians use social media teams and digital teams to basically do all of their social media work for them. But in most cases, the politician themselves send out, you know, the big tweets, the controversial ones. They have to get cleared through them. I don't think that is the case with Governor Newsom in California because his quote, unquote press office seems to be increasingly unhinged. And I question whether or not that's actually going to play in his benefit in the long term or if it's going to get him in a ton of trouble. Here to help me sort this out is conservative political commentator Stephanie Hamill. Stephanie, this has been really interesting to see. I think, again, we're all aware that Governor Newsom is hyperactive on social media now, but it seems like his team is, is maybe going off the deep end. And I'm super curious about your thoughts on whether or not that that's going to play into his favor. I want to bring up this clip really quick. First, this is the, this is the one that caught my attention, but this is one of many. The governor's press team tweeting, Stephen Miller is a fascist. All caps, exclamation points. Again, that is from the Governor Newsom official press office. Stephanie, before we dive into kind of the 30,000 foot view of this, what are your thoughts here on this particular tweet? And, you know, going forward, whether or not Newsom is going to be able to rail in his own digital team?

Stephanie Hamill (15:20)

My reaction is this is totally out of control, right? It's like totally tone deaf to what's going on in this nation, especially in regards to the horrible political assassination of Charlie Kirk. I've heard from both sides that we need to tone down the rhetoric yet then we're seeing this from Gavin Newsom's official press team. So he should be ashamed of himself. His team should be ashamed. And they, if they haven't deleted it yet, they should.

Joe Bob (15:45)

Well, they, they, they haven't deleted it and said they've doubled down, go ahead and play or look at cut two of this. They then decided to go put a textbook definition when Stephen Miller respond to that? All he said is, why do you think they posted this? And they gave a definition, which in most cases, if you take out what they said about right wing, all of those definitions fit the prior administration, which is just funny on its face. We kind of roll our eyes at the whole fascism thing, but, you know, libs take this sort of stuff seriously and that's what kind of gets people hurt. Stephanie, I want to highlight his digital director. It is this woman, 20 something years old, named Camilla Zappita. We're not doxing her. She has this all public. She's like very proud of this, but just a little bit about her bio. She leads the initiative communication strategies to amplify the governor's priorities. She serves as also on the president's President of California's women list and continues to champion pro choice Democratic women candidates to advocate for equity in political representation. Stephanie. Well, let me, Let me read this one quick thing, and I'd love your response to this. She ran a Central Valley based Q, W, O, C. Do you know what that means? I'm just curious. Do you know what Q, W, O, C means? I had to look this up.

Stephanie Hamill (17:09)

No, I have no idea.

Joe Bob (17:10)

Queer. Queer women owned company because that matters for some reason. Yeah. Consulting firm where they were creative, dedicated to elevating biwo queer. See, so Black, indigenous queer, women of color, and lgbtqia, all of the acronyms. They want to elevate everybody with an Alphabet acronym to influence and impact status. Stephanie, your thoughts on this lady and why you think Governor Newsom is leaning into her to run his entire social media?

Stephanie Hamill (17:51)

There's so much to chew on here. But I'll start off with I did a quick little search on her and the media, of course, just loves her. They're obsessed because she, if she's a she. I'm not sure. I didn't check it.

Joe Bob (18:04)

Oh, yeah, you got to be careful.

Stephanie Hamill (18:05)

You got to be careful. But they are obsessed with her because she checks all of the diversity boxes, right? And her title, if you, if you do a quick search on her, they call her a queer Chicana Boricua. It's like, I don't really need to know what she's doing behind the scenes, who she's into. Like, I'm just not really interested in that. When people look me up, you can see that I'm married, but I don't, like, put that out there in my title that I'm into to men. People don't need to know that. But regardless, it's just interesting. The media Loves her so much. They're giving her credit for how successful Gavin Newsom social media has been. There definitely has been some activity on his social media and, you know, maybe she is responsible for that. But I will say I think it's.

Monica Page (18:50)

Going to hurt him.

Stephanie Hamill (18:51)

Right. I think Gavin Newsom has serious plans to run for president. He obviously hasn't announced yet, but he has shown that maybe there's some interest there. Like he's putting his toe in the water here to see if there anyone's going to bite. And we saw that he went to South Carolina recently. We saw that he did the Stephen Colbert show the couple days ago, like five days ago. And so he's making his media rounds, he's visiting other states. So he's wondering if there is an appetite for, for him for president. And as you know, when it comes to the Democratic potential candidates for president, the bench is really thin. It's not looking good. I mean, people are talking about Kamala Harris again. They're talking about people who to judge. Like, it is not looking good for them. So I actually do see a path for Newsom, which explains why his social media has just been all about Trump. It's like, are you not the governor of California? Like, shouldn't you be talking about things that Californians care about? Like specifically maybe the victims of the LA fire who are still looking for the relief money? Like, that's what I would do if I was governor. I'd be focusing on my state and talking about the things that Californians care about.

Joe Bob (19:57)

No, and you're totally right. And I'm super curious to your thoughts, kind of like more broadly overall, because libs are going to have to figure this out. And apparently the top ones, and Gavin Newsom is at the top of that list, are deciding, hey, we're going to go even more woke. We're going to lean into the let me get the acronym right, Q, W, O C community, I guess, and let them kind of run roughshod over everybody who's reasonably sensible in our own party. I guess more broadly, if we zoom out 30,000ft, how does that look in your eyes with again, libs trying to take power back. Do you think they're better off leaning into this sort of stuff or just kicking it to the curb, recognizing that it's a very fringe minority of their own party and trying to be a little bit more sensible?

Stephanie Hamill (20:46)

We know that there's wokeness fatigue because we've seen evidence of it over the past year or so, especially with the election of Donald Trump. So it is actually going to play very well, I believe, with the base and these, like, hard, radical leftists who are just loving every second of it. And that's why it's doing well on social media, because if you look at it across the US There are a certain percentage of people that, you know, believe everything that he's saying, and they fully support it. But it would get him through a primary, I think. But after that, he would try to, you know, lean to the middle, and everyone's going to remember exactly what he said. Because, you know, the Internet's forever. And the. The whole case of Make America California, I just don't think that's going to play well at a national level. It's not going to inspire the moderates to be interested in Newsom. If anything, they're going to want to run.

Joe Bob (21:39)

I know. I 100% agree. Make America California is like one of the biggest denigrating threats to the rest of the country, rhetorically speaking. Right. Because I don't want to inflame anything. But that is a great slogan for everybody who doesn't live in California and can see what's going on here and go, oh, yeah, we don't want to be that. Stephanie, before I let you go, Glenn, can we pull up clip 3 one more time? Or the. Or the visual on number three one more time. Stephanie, I don't want to drag you into the gutter with me, but doesn't this look like someone who is just waiting to be offended? Like somebody who's ordering a burrito at Chipotle and says, you know, they say, thank you, ma'. Am. I. I am. I am Latinx or whatever it is that she's gonna say. I don't know. What do you.

Stephanie Hamill (22:25)

Chicana Boricua.

Joe Bob (22:27)

Yes.

Stephanie Hamill (22:28)

She's so insensitive.

Joe Bob (22:30)

I'm sorry. I apologize to all of the Chicana Barui quiz Ziz in the world. I. My deepest and most sincere apologies.

Stephanie Hamill (22:39)

Well, and if she sees your segment, she's already going to be offended because you pronounced her last name wrong. It's Zapata. Zapata.

Joe Bob (22:46)

Okay. And okay, so. So I am curious, too. Just with you speaking Spanish, I think her name has two Ls in it. Is it Camilla or Camilla? I don't. I. You feel. Tell me how I'm supposed to be pronounced. Like legs. I'm actually curious.

Stephanie Hamill (23:01)

It said that it's Camille. I'm not sure. Yeah. On this Polly. I had to look that at one of them. I was like, is she Camille or Camilla? Maybe that's like a nickname. I'm not 100% sure, but it's definitely Zapata and she definitely would be offended by that. And, you know, that was actually one of the first things I thought when I started reading more about her and looking into. I'm like this person, if you're in a room with her, you're going to have to be really careful because everything you say, she's going to take it out of context, twist it into something that you didn't say and be offended by it. And I actually, like, I'm cringing inside just thinking about it. Yeah, this, this person would be offended by everything.

Joe Bob (23:38)

Yeah. I couldn't help but also think the same thing when showing a picture of that. We all know people like that. That's, that's why I think I'm bringing that up. But yeah, I, I also, I also think Gavin Newsom should keep her on staff, let her do all the things that she wants because I think ultimately he will lose 48 states to JD fans, which would be great.

Stephanie Hamill (24:00)

I'm a California refugee. I live in Idaho now and I can tell you I remember very well how he treated us during COVID I remember all of the shenanigans. I know how bad California has gotten over the past decade with homelessness and everything else. And it is interesting because we know he can clean it up because we saw him do it. What was in San Francisco when they invited Xi Jinping, pinged down, they cleaned up the neighborhood and everyone's like, oh, this is nice. But you know, just a few weeks later it was like back, back to business as usual.

Joe Bob (24:29)

Yeah. So don't California my America. Stephanie Hamill, political conservative commentator, thanks so much for joining. Really appreciate you taking the time.

Stephanie Hamill (24:37)

Thank you.

Joe Bob (24:38)

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Monica Page (25:40)

The United States Monday, kicking off to a very hot start. Here, of course, the Prime Minister of Israel here, the President making a major announcement, a 20 to 21 point peace plan. Of course, we saw the Abraham Accords during his first term, but this is a totally new approach to things because this war has been ravaging on for way too long. Both sides are still fighting each other and the president is quite honestly sick of it and so are the American people. So he outlined this plan. It was posted all over social media just recently. Essentially, I'm not going to lay out each point because we'd be here forever. But to kind of summarize it, it's an immediate end to the war, which means the Israeli defensive forces would kind of wean their way out of the region, gradually moving out, withdrawing from the Gaza Strip completely over time within 72 hours. All hostages that are both dead or alive have to be released within 72 hours. It also kind of outlines a pathway for economic development in the region as well, which is a little bit different. But the president doubled down and said that there needs to be a commitment to peace. And this plan also kind of recognizes that we could be moving in a direction where we could see a Palestinian state which many people in Israel do not like, but many people in the Palestinian side would love. But the president has taken a very cautious approach to it and announced that he's organizing this peace board governing force in that specific region where Hamas won't have any control, no terror factors will have any control of that region, but it will be a peace board appointed by a bunch of Arab leaders. And that'll be very interesting to see if this does come to fruition. Position the president expects both sides to agree. Netanyahu has already agreed, but the president essentially gave Israel his blessing, that if Hamas doesn't agree to this, then they've got full reign to do what they need to do to eradicate the violence that we've been seeing in the Middle East. Now, of course, the president came to this agreement kind of during the sideline talks during the UN General assembly meeting that we saw last week. So we held those sideline conversations with Arab leaders, Middle Eastern leaders, to kind of work out something that would work for everybody on both sides, including the United States. So we're looking forward to seeing if this works. I'm hoping it does. Just this morning on my way to the White House, we saw a group of activists that were peaceful, believe it or not. I know some of them outside the White House here whenever Netanyahu is in town are never peaceful, but they were advocating for the release of all hostages. This is just a common theme that, you know, many people feel like enough is enough. These are family members. These are people's children, husbands, wives. But we did hear some protesters earlier sounding the alarms, so I'll probably go check it out in a little bit and see if they're still there and get some footage. But, yeah, so, so far, so good.

Joe Bob (28:29)

Yeah, we'll. We'll see how that pans out. Last week, we were poking fun at Keir Starmer and all of the countries around the world that didn't have anything to do with all of this, but say we recognize a Palestinian state, but actually not having any sort of input whatsoever. They're just trying to keep. Keep their own, their own local jihadis at bay. But it's interesting, too, that the President, yeah, is obviously taking steps to, to solve the problem as opposed to just making grandiose statements at the State of the Union as if they have anything to do with the world peace. But different copy for a different time, if you want to expand on that. But I think what is huge and what I think a bunch of people have been talking about for the last week is Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said, hey, all the generals need to be in Washington, D.C. on Tuesday. Tomorrow, Trump is apparently going to go there as well. What can we expect ahead of this Quantico meeting, which is bigger, a bigger meeting than I think I've ever seen. But again, I could have. Could be wrong. But what's coming up here, you think?

Monica Page (29:32)

Sure. Well, this is a massive meeting, and the mainstream media kind of tried to blow this up into something that it wasn't saying. This is unprecedented. Something is going down and nobody knows about it. But essentially it's going to be about 800 generals from all around the world, and the president going to speak with them, check in with them, see how everything's going. Of course, you mentioned the Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, will also be there as well. They want to emphasize and celebrate the fact that warrior ethos is back. We're flexing our military muscle. We are strong on the world stage again. And the president wants to kind of celebrate with them and, and just make it known that we have your Back. We are with you every step of the way. But the president we heard from last week in the Oval Office. Somebody, one of the reporters asked the president about this meeting, and some of the members in the Oval Office were laughing at the sole fact that the mainstream media was trying to blow this up and try to make it seem like we're going to war and that, you know, there's trouble in the waters. But what's wrong with a little bit of celebrating among our troops? Because we definitely appreciate the fact that they keep us safe every single day, especially on a global scale.

Joe Bob (30:35)

Yeah. Monica, while you were answering that, I got an update, I believe, from MSNBC saying that President Trump ate breakfast continuing his war against food, which seems to be the case.

Monica Page (30:46)

That sounds right.

Joe Bob (30:46)

Yeah. What's going on here, Monica? Page, Turning Points White House correspondent. Thanks so much for checking in. We'll talk to you soon.

Monica Page (30:52)

Thanks, guys. Have a great day.

Joe Bob (30:54)

Thank you. Kamala Harris is the gift that keeps on giving. Yes, I know that was a jarring transition, but remember, we can all be thankful that Kamala Harris isn't the one going to Quantico tomorrow to meet with all the generals. But even then, if she was president, she probably wouldn't do that anyway because, I don't know, she doesn't do anything important or necessary at any point in time. But she is the gift that keeps on giving. If you like the gift of mockery. That mockery coming from this show. Kamala Harris gave a speech over the weekend which really highlighted to me. She's still on her book tour. She's trying to sell this book where she blames everybody but herself for her failed president presidential campaign. Uh, but she said some things that I thought were actually really interesting and interesting in the way of. Oh, you guys don't get it. Watch this clip and we'll discuss why all the libs are wrong on this point. Check it out.

Kamala Harris (31:46)

The universities, law firms, media, corporations, the titans of industry who have been so quick to kneel before a tyrant. But I'll tell you who refuses to capitulate. The people. When a president with a fragile ego couldn't take a joke and brought down the weight of the federal government to silence the voice of a citizen.

Joe Bob (32:20)

Yeah, I'm realizing that. I think that's what these people think happened. I think what libs think think happened is that President Trump was offended by a joke. I think one of the biggest things in this whole Kimmel situation, and again, I don't want to relitigate all of this, but as they Left the clip too long. Kimmel made an absurd, horrendous accusation in some comments. And then after, it was like a 45 second joke about President Trump that, you know, either thought funny or it wasn't. But that wasn't what got him kicked off the air. First of all, the federal government didn't do anything. They didn't actually try to revoke licenses, they didn't do anything specifically quickly. And especially compared to what the last administration did do, making the case that they had a huge impact is pretty laughable. What had the impact was the fact that he said something awful and the viewers revolted. But I think the main point here is that they don't know why Kimmel was kicked off the air. They think it was a joke when. No, I don't. I don't need to re. Explain to you. The actuality of it was when he said, well, MAGA is trying to act like Charlie Kirk's shooter wasn't one of their own. That was the heinous and ridiculous thing that Kimmel said that got him booted off the air. But apparently dumb dumbs like the DEI former Vice president don't know that. And interestingly enough, scrolling through social media, you start to figure out, holy cow, more people don't know that then I think, which is concerning. What is also concerning is the continuation like we talked about with Newsom's folks, uh, in heating up the rhetoric. I again, let me know if you think this is tamping it down because all of the libs who again by the way, are doing the overwhelming majority of all the political violence and you can find that information pretty much anywhere, are still ratcheting up the rhetoric, evidenced by one Kamala Harris. Watch how she ends her speech at the Congressional Black Caucus Dinner thing that she was at. Check this out.

Kamala Harris (34:21)

At a time such as this, it demands one thing for sure. We must fight fire with fire. So cbc, let's get to work. Thank you.

Joe Bob (34:43)

That was her final line. I wanted to leave that tail end in there a little bit to show like, yeah, that was her stinger. That was the. I'm gonna walk off, drop the microphone. We've gotta fight fire with fire. And considering the fact that all the libs in Portland and all of the rioters around the country consistently use fire, what do you think they're going to take that as? God, follow your own advice. At the very least, if you wanna ratchet down the rhetoric, maybe don't say fight fire with fire. Unfortunately though, it does get worse. Kamala's protege, Jasmine Crockett, who, again, I am a proponent of. I think Jasmine Crockett should be given a microphone any chance that she gets, because she makes my job incredibly easy by how idiotic the things that she says are, is also not ratcheting down any of the political rhetoric here. She is blaming right wingers for all of the violence. Again, we are not the ones that are rioting in the streets. We are not the ones that are assassinating people in broad daylight. We're not the ones that taking shots at presidents. And yet, for some reason, this is what Jasmine Crockett thinks about this. Check this out.

Jasmine Crockett (35:52)

The violence doesn't come from Democrats. Just to be clear. I mean, obviously, anyone can be a criminal, but it is MAGA is specifically MAGA faction. Like, I don't think traditional Republicans are getting engaged in all of this. But, like, even when we look at. And they don't talk about the assassination attempts anymore that took place with Donald Trump.

Stephanie Hamill (36:16)

But these.

Jasmine Crockett (36:16)

These were Trump supporters, right? As well as this most recent situation, they tried to flip it and say, oh, the leftists. Or I'm like, this doesn't even make sense. Right. But it's only like MAGA that does this.

Joe Bob (36:31)

Yeah. First of all, what's going on with that dress? Like, who said that? Hey, if you dress up like one of the flags that a referee in the NFL throws, but then like, put Lady Gaga shoulder pads on it, that's a good idea. Great. But also to address the things that she actually said. What? I don't even think this warrants a response. Like, there are arguments to be made. If arguments are brought in good faith. But if you're just gonna flat out say things that everybody knows to be untrue, do we have to respond? I'm actually curious. Tptpusa.com do we dig into this sort of stuff more or do we just roll our eyes and hope that the American people understand that what she's saying is patently false? MAGA is responsible for all the violence and the most recent incident that everyone's talking about. Oh, yeah, all. All maga. And then she says, oh, I'm not talking about Republicans talking about maga. I don't know if she's seen the polling or witnessed the 2024 election. It's kind of the same thing. The people that voted for Donald Trump is who you're talking about. And if you're going to say that they are the ones perpetrating the most violence, I don't even have an argument for you. I really just pity you as much as I pity all of the other people who apparently are detached from reality, including this chucklehead, the DEI vice president, Kamala Harris. You know, this is. I wasn't planning on necessarily going here, but there is a pastor that we played two weeks ago when Charlie was murdered who said some ridiculous and horrible things. His name is Howard John Wesley. I've reached out to that guy every single day since inviting him on the show. Lo and behold, he has not responded. But I don't know if you have social media and you want to look him up and give him a comment on any one of his photos. Hey, Joe, Bob wants to have you on his show to defend the horrible things you said about his murdered friend. I'd appreciate that. Again, Howard John Wesley, that crazy guy who said awful things again, wasn't necessarily thinking of bringing that up, but I would love to talk to that guy and have him defend the awful things that he said. I can't imagine that he will. And in case he does see this. Hey little guy, I know you have a small time audience. This is actually be bigger, bigger audience than you've ever had before. I hope that hits you right in the ego because clearly you've got a big one. Even though small time guy. Oh, we got a lot more coming up, including some celebrity feuds that I actually think are fairly interesting and worth talking about. Emma Watson is going at it with J.K. rowling and, and what she said Emma Watson said in a podcast I think encapsulates the entire problem with liberalism and hyper progressivism. Very, very interesting to watch and see. Don't go away. We'll be right back after the break. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback through mockery of terrible ideas. You know, one of the things that is fascinating to me about pop culture is watching people in the artistry world try to articulate what they think about the more serious aspects of life and then picking that apart and trying to figure out, okay, well, what is actually the problem? Well, this feud between J.K. rowling and Emma Watson I think gave us a perfect example of why libs and progressives are always seem to be so wrong in their thinking. Just to set this up, J.K. rowling is a very, very loud proponent of women's rights and not trans women's rights. That is a big thing that she's stuck her neck out on. I think she is right in almost every any for everything she says on this particular topic. The person who plays one of the main characters in her Harry Potter series. Emma Watson happens to disagree. There's been a years long fear feud between the two. Emma Watson is a progressive feminist Lib and J.K. rowling is a married woman with children who sees the world through realistic lenses. She sees reality, she understands truth and is not afraid to say so. Now Emma Watson went on a guy named Jay Shetty's podcast. That's his name. I don't, I don't censor, don't, don't bleep that out. It's, that's his name, Jay Shetty. And said something that I think she was trying to kind of, you know, tie the, the loose ends with J.K. rowling together. J.K. rowling responded, by the way, and said no, like what you said is ridiculous. But further than that, I think this clip exemplifies everything that is wrong with the libs and the hyper progressives and how they think. She didn't mean to make this point, I think, but I do think this point was, was loudly and clearly made. Watch this and we'll discuss what I'm talking about. Check it out.

Emma Watson (41:30)

And this is where this like holding of these. I just don't know what else to do other than hold these two seemingly incompatible things together at the same time and just hope maybe they will one day resolve or co. Join themselves and maybe accept that they never will, but that they can both still be true.

Joe Bob (41:51)

So she's talking about her beliefs and her relationship with J.K. rowling and. But what she says though, she's trying to hold these two incompatible things in her hands at the same time and accepting that they may never be compatible. And that is the biggest problem with the current American left. The current progressives think that their ideology can impact truth. Well, you can have the truth in one hand and then you could have what we believe is in the other hand. And the problem that they face is those two things cannot mix. You're talking about oil and water here. They don't mix, they won't ever mix. And if you think that they might reconcile at some point in the future, you're wrong. And the ideology that believes that truth is just, it's kind of an afterthought. You know, men can be women and you know, victims are the actual criminals are the actual victims. And all of the things that the left believes and progressives believe come out of this idea that while there's truth and reality and that can kind of exist over here, but then also in our hands we hold our beliefs and our ideology and what we believe human nature should be. You can't hold them both at the same time. That's what conservative values are. That's what conservatism is, is recognizing human nature, recognizing what is, and navigating through that. That's not to say that there are no pitfalls that come from that sort of view of the world. Obviously, there are difficulties. There are tests of how you perceive reality and trying to. Trying to navigate what reality actually is. Of course those things happen. But if you try to manipulate, if you try to exist in reality and also manipulate reality, those two things will never be compatible. You can never blend those two things. And I know Emma Watson was talking about her relationship with J.K. rowling and the trans movement and her beliefs on that topic as a whole, but what she really said was something true that I look at the world trying to hold realistic views and what I think reality should be. And just the problem with that is they don't combine. They don't. It does. They will never reconcile. It's a world that does not exist. And as long as liberals and progressives continue to believe that they can exist in reality and also not believe in it, they're going to be lost in their ideology. Again, not something that I think she was meaning to say, but a very important truth that we should all recognize and understand. That is the truth and why liberals and their progressive politics are the way they are. The ideology does not blend with reality. It does not blend with human nature, does not blend with the truth that we all see in front of our own eyes outside of their actual feud. You know, who knows? Maybe they'll make up, maybe they won't. But as long as liberals try to try to manipulate human nature in a way that doesn't work, their ideology will never work. It'll never be cohesive. It'll never blend. Coming up next, want to talk about what we're doing in addition to this show that you might want to stay tuned for? It'll be a reminder to subscribe to our YouTube channel and any of our social media platforms because there's a little extra peace that might be coming soon. We'll talk about that and possibly even read a couple emails. Don't go away. We'll be right back after the break. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight, where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback through mockery of terrible ideas. You can email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com, we love seeing each and every one of your emails. This email I believe was from Sherry who said this is great. This is, this is a callback. 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Turning Point tonight we can get all of the clips from this show on your YouTube or Rumble or any of the other social media platforms that you prefer. I wanted to get to this because I thought this was adorable and cute and also a cultural touchstone in our society. I am a big fan of the arts adopting conservative values again. I mean artistry from the beginning of time until about 50 years ago was all centered around a God focused society. And I hope to get back there. This is Kyrian Cullen who you may not know his work, he's an actor but he won an award and said this to his wife. And there is an update on this one. I thought this was adorable and cute And a great. A great positive attribute to conservative values ultimately. But then there is an update on this. Watch this clip 9.

Kieran Culkin (48:17)

About a year ago, I was on a stage like this, and I very stupidly, publicly said that I want a third kid from her because she said if I won the award, I would. She would give me the kid. It turns out she said that because she didn't think I was gonna win. But. And people came up to her and were like, you know, really annoying her, I think. I think it got to her. But anyway, after the show, we're walking through a parking lot. She's holding the Emmy. We're trying to find her car. Emily, you were there, so you're a witness. And she goes, oh, God, I did say that. I guess I owe you a third kid. And I turned to her and I said, really? I want four. And she turned to me. I swear to God, this happened. It was just over a year ago. She said, I will give you four when you win an Oscar. I held my hand out, she shook it.

Joe Bob (49:01)

And I have not brought it up.

Kieran Culkin (49:03)

Once until just now. You remember that, honey? You do. Okay, then. I just have this to say to you, Jasmine, love of my life, you have little faith. No pressure. I love you. I'm really sorry I did this again. And let's get cracking on those kids. What do you say?

Joe Bob (49:23)

I think we should all be pro getting married and having kids. Like Charlie said, get married, have kids. They are expecting their third child now. TMZ is reporting years. Kieran Culkin. I think I said Cullen. It's Culkin. And that's exciting. It's exciting to see conservative values, whether or not it's expressly like political, expressed in the culture. I think that is a great sign for society. That's gonna do it for us here at Turning Point tonight. Go subscribe to our YouTube channel. We'll see you tomorrow, same time, same place. Email the show tbt tbusa.com See you then. God bless America. This is an I heart podcast.