TURNING POINT TONIGHT, WITH JOBOB, SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2025

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Real America’s Voice – TURNING POINT TONIGHT with Joe Bob (September 2nd, 2025)

Main Theme:
This episode, hosted by Joe Bob, delivers sharp conservative commentary on current political, cultural, and economic developments in the U.S. Topics include Chicago’s response to federal immigration enforcement, media coverage of labor markets, political hypocrisy, virtue signaling on the left, Space Force headquarters relocation, Congressional wealth, Greta Thunberg’s activism, and behind-the-scenes victories of the “MAHA” (Make America Healthy Again) movement. The discussion is lively, irreverent, and heavily focused on critiquing progressive narratives with a blend of guest analysis, notable news, and personal takes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Chicago vs. Federal Immigration Enforcement

Segment: [00:13–08:29]

• Brandon Johnson’s Executive Order:
  Joe Bob kicks off by mocking Mayor Brandon Johnson’s defiant executive order (“Protecting Chicago Initiative”) aimed at limiting federal immigration law enforcement, even as Chicago suffers from high crime rates.
  “In order to fight that, the brave, brave communist mayor of Chicago...has signed an executive order saying, no, no, you cannot come in here.” – Joe Bob [01:13]

• Panel Analysis:

  • Grace Riley (Restoration America): Interprets Johnson’s rhetoric as borderline insurrection and highlights the irony, as Chicago’s actual citizens suffer from rampant crime.
    “Yeah, it sounds like an insurrection to me against the federal government. And beyond that, as if Chicago needs any encouragement towards violence.” [04:08]
  • Alma Oheno Pari (Conservative Activist): Criticizes the emotional, tribalist approach Johnson takes, likening it to gang leadership, and suggests Chicago’s leaders’ anti-Trump animus blinds them to constituents’ needs.
    “What I see...is like a gang leader who is riling up his gang to protect their territory.” [07:07]

• “Trump Derangement Syndrome”:
  Joe Bob labels the situation as an example of “Trump Derangement Syndrome,” where opposition to Trump trumps practical problem-solving. [08:29]

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2. Immigration, Jobs, and Media Narratives

Segment: [08:29–12:05]

• CBS Reporting:
  Discussion on CBS’s negative framing of a reported 1.2 million drop in immigrant workers under Trump.
  • Grace Riley: Sees the development as beneficial, with more jobs opening for Americans. “More jobs for Americans and more order in our country. You have to follow our laws and be a legal citizen to legally work in our country.” [09:23]
  • Alma Oheno Pari: Critiques farm owners who claim job losses are detrimental, questioning their preference for illegal labor. “You are telling me that you need people to come here and work for slave wages just so that you can have farm workers pick our crops. I think that is the most offensive part of that entire argument.” [10:36]

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3. Space Command Relocation & White House Update

Segment: [15:34–19:45]

• Trump vs. Biden on Space Force HQ:
  Monica Page (Turning Point’s White House correspondent) reports on President Trump’s reversal of the Biden administration’s decision to keep Space Force headquarters in Colorado rather than relocating to Alabama. “It’s also expected to save taxpayers a whopping $420 million...and really boosts military readiness.” – Monica Page [18:03]

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4. Congressional Wealth & Hypocrisy: The Ilhan Omar Case

Segment: [19:46–24:35]

• Ilhan Omar’s Financial Windfall:
  New disclosures suggest Rep. Ilhan Omar’s net worth could approach $30 million—somehow rising by 3,500% within one cycle, largely through her husband’s winery and capital fund.
  • Grace Riley: Calls out the hypocrisy, noting Omar recently decried self-promoting officials while benefitting from the same. “Another corrupt Marxist politician that is a complete hypocrite.” [21:25]
  • Alma Oheno Pari: Mocks socialist politicians’ wealth and demands consistency. “If you're going to be a true socialist, why do you accept those growth numbers? Why don't you immediately liquidate those resources so that the poor people in Minnesota can have access to your wealth?” [23:12]

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5. Greta Thunberg’s “Virtue Signaling”

Segment: [25:50–28:29]

• Greta Thunberg’s Activism:
  Greta attempts a failed humanitarian flotilla mission for Gaza, prompting panel skepticism.
  • Grace Riley: Points out the disconnect between her activism and on-the-ground realities. “We don't know, is it for attention? Is she trying to get back in the news cycle?” [25:50]
  • Alma Oheno Pari: Labels this as “virtue signaling,” essential for progressive movements to compensate for lack of substance. “Because when you go into brass tacks, you realize that none of their ideas actually work...they need all these tactics for the purpose of kind of creating smoke and mirrors.” [27:10]

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6. Viral Clip – ICE and "Choose Your Side Carefully"

Segment: [41:47–44:51]

• Critical Moment:
  A video is played showing someone warning about ICE arrests, before quickly changing tune when learning authorities are after a child sex offender. “Bottom line, think before you open your mouth. Do a little bit of processing before you start deciding to take a side one way or the other.” – Joe Bob [44:43]

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7. Make America Healthy Again (MAHA): Health Policy Wins & Concerns

Segment: [45:36–52:48] (with Alex Clark & TPUSA Announcer)

• Major Health-Related Reforms:
  • Food Dyes: Banned within first 60 days for links to behavioral and carcinogenic effects.
  • SNAP Reform and Operation Stork Speed: Enhanced oversight of formula ingredients.
  • Vaccine Reform: Cancelation of mRNA vaccine contracts, end of mandates for children and pregnant women, and government tracking of vaccine injuries for the first time.
  • Review of Food Additives: Closing loopholes allowing unregulated additives now banned in other countries.
  • Revival of Presidential Fitness Test: Emphasized as a culture-changing move; “Health has to be embedded into American culture.” – Alex Clark [48:16]
  • Warning on Chemical Liability Shield: A proposed immunity for chemical companies is likened to past vaccine industry protections; panel urges activism to halt it.

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8. Marriage & Submission: Faith-Based Advice (Culture Apothecary Clip with Alex Clark)

Segment: [30:27–41:03]

• Key Marriage Counseling Takeaways:
  • Affirmation Ratio: For constructive criticism to be effective, it should be heavily outweighed by positive affirmation (20:1 ratio recommended).
    • "You want like 20 times the praise and affirmation ratio to the criticism or the questioning of how a person did things." – Marriage Counselor [30:58]
  • Repentance & Apology: Fast, specific, and genuine repentance is critical for a healthy marriage.
    • “I'm sorry for [specific thing you did or said], it was wrong. Will you forgive me? That's it.” – Marriage Counselor [35:13]
  • Silent Treatment & Communication: Silence can be destructive; choosing vulnerability and direct apology is emphasized over “weaponized” silence.
  • Root Cause of Quarrels: Often stems from not getting what one wants; habitual nagging is a misguided attempt to induce change.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Chicago and Federal Immigration:
  “We've all seen the Internet videos of residents of Chicago going to city council meetings and just lambasting Johnson and all of the city council saying, hey, this illegal immigration thing is a huge problem.” – Joe Bob [06:24]

• On Media Narratives:
  “If you're going to combine the two numbers [legal and illegal immigrants] effectively, that number means nothing to me.” – Joe Bob [10:04]

• On Socialist Wealth:
  “Dang, man, those socialists do really, really well fighting capitalism and oligarchy.” – Joe Bob [24:35]

• On Virtue Signaling:
  “It is a necessary part of leftism to virtue signal. They can't live without it because without it, seriously, the ideology shrivels up and you see it for what it is.” – Alma Oheno Pari [27:10]

• MAHA Success:
  “This is so exciting...because kids need to be exercising. They need to understand what's in their food and how to read ingredients and nutrition labels.” – Alex Clark [48:16]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Chicago Executive Order & Panel Discussion: 00:13–08:29
• Media & Immigration Jobs Debate: 08:29–12:05
• Space Force HQ Relocation & White House News: 15:34–19:45
• Ilhan Omar’s Financial Disclosures: 19:46–24:35
• Greta Thunberg’s Virtue Signaling: 25:50–28:29
• ICE Viral Clip Reaction: 41:47–44:51
• MAHA & Health Policy Wins: 45:36–52:48
• Faith-Based Marriage Advice Segment: 30:27–41:03

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Overall Tone & Style

The episode is punchy, sarcastic, and unapologetically conservative. There’s a clear emphasis on calling out perceived hypocrisy, mocking left-wing activism, and highlighting conservative policy wins. The dialogue is lively, laced with humor and direct audience engagement (“email the show”, meme requests), and prioritizes plainspoken, relatable commentary over wonky or academic analysis.

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Useful for New Listeners:

This summary delivers the episode’s full arc—from headline political spats, media skepticism, and insider political analysis, to faith-based life advice and conservative culture war talking points. It effectively captures memorable moments, major arguments, and the podcast’s spirited, combative tone.

Transcript

[Marriage Counselor]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Joe Bob]

Illegals are getting deported from the country and freeing up a ton of jobs. I don't know why, but CBS claims that that is a bad thing. Also, squad goals. Apparently I need to be more of a communist, because that's how you get rich in this country. One of the squad. Squad members. Holy cow. Their financial disclosures makes her a lot of money. And last but not least, Lord Farquaad has made her return. Greta Thunberg is back in the news, and you're not. You're not gonna want to miss why everybody is mocking her nowadays. All that more coming up on this episode of Turning Point Tonight. My name is Joe Bob. Thanks so much for tuning in. Together, we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. This is Turning Point tonight. I have to remind you, you. You can email the show at any time. Tptpusa.com we love seeing all of your emails, especially if you send us hilarious memes or videos that you see throughout the Internet of libs losing their mind. We generally like to play those. In the fourth segment, tptpusa.com is the email. If you want to send any of those over. Before all of those awesome stories are a fantastic panel, we got to get to this. I think one of the most hilarious moves that anybody has made on the lib side of the aisle, an executive order. Well, let me set this up first. The Trump administration is saying, hey, we're going to start going into Chicago. We talked about this story last week. This Friday is the date that the evil, evil Trump administration is going to go into Chicago and enforce the law regarding immigration. Now, there's obviously talk about the National Guard getting sent there to deal with crime. That's not necessarily what this is. But in order to fight that, the brave, brave communist mayor of Chicago, one Mr. Johnson, has signed an executive order saying, no, no, you cannot come in here. I mean, lots of things to go there. The executive order is Protecting Chicago initiative. Uh, speaking of Chicago, by the way, 54 people shot over the weekend, seven dead. But again, dude, they. They're going to protect Chicago. Also, I'm not entirely sure why a federal judge wouldn't also come in and say, say this executive order is no bueno, or, I guess not good for those of us who are still here legally, that might have made sense to you. But all of this to be said, there is a video that I want to play for you from Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Chicago, that I think is worth watching because, hey, it actually might be treasonous in A lot of ways. Here to comment on that and so much more is Alma Oheno Pari, a author and conservative activist, and Grace Riley, who's the analyst for Restoration America, among other things. Guys, thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time.

[Grace Riley]

Thanks so much.

[Joe Bob]

Before we get your reactions to the Chicago executive order, I want to play you a video from today. 1 Brandon Johnson, again, saying some things that I think a lot of people could call treason, among other things. Watch this and we'll get your reaction. Are you prepared to defend this land, this land that was built by slaves, a land that was built by indigenous people, a land that is built by workers? Are you prepared to defend this land? The people united will always prevail. I need you all to stand firm, to stand strong if this president decides to continue to break this constitution. Yeah, that's, that's about that. Grace, I want to start with you here. Sounds like fighting words. And you can obviously make the case that no, this is just heated political rhetoric because you know, people, politicians talk like that. But remember, this is the side that says, hey, if you say fight, that's, you obviously mean fight. So what, what does he mean by defend Chicago against the federal government, which is highly suspect.

[Grace Riley]

Yeah, it sounds like an insurrection to me against the federal government. And beyond that, as if Chicago needs any encouragement towards violence. Based off of the numbers you even just said from last week. Laughably, of course, though, from this speech, that was what they, the Democrats would call inciting riots. Right? I mean this, this speech compared with this protect act, this Protect Chicago executive order is laughable because of course, his alleged purpose is to protect so so called protect Chicago residents from aggressive federal presences and law enforcement. But really this executive order only ensures that crime continues in Chicago. And of course the executive order also stigmatizes and leaves federal officials and military personnel and their families open to possible doxxing and retaliation based off of what is in it. And I mean to give you a few more examples on this rioting clip on top of it, the first probably you missed because no one watches cnn but the Illinois Lieutenant Governor Juliana Stratton went on and accused President Trump of wanting to so called, quote, unquote, manufacture a crisis by bringing law and order to Chicago. I mean, it's insane. And then best for last. So Mayor Johnson, who we just saw also appeared on MSNBC last week where he repeatedly refused to answer a question about if increased police presence would help. I mean, to respond to both of them. No one thinks that there isn't a Crime crisis in Chicago residents, Democrats or Republicans. No one except for the few Democrat leaders of Chicago who are taking this foolish, terrible and out of touch stance. It's insane. And the numbers don't lie. The crime is high. They're leading the country in murder. It's absolutely insane. You stated a few numbers from last week, the week before that there were three dozen shootings, six were fatal. So there's no question there's a problem and they should welcome any help that they could get. That's the problem here. Instead of writing an executive order and trying to incite riots, riots, he should be actually working on making sure his citizens are safe, which is his primary responsibility.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah, it's, it is wild going on there. Alma. Here's what I think is interesting. I said this last week when there was the news that the Trump administration is going to send immigration into Chicago. I don't know why they would be making a big deal about this, considering the biggest. We've all seen the Internet videos of residents of Chicago going to city council meetings and just lambasting Johnson and all of the city council saying, hey, this illegal immigration thing is a huge problem, Alma. Why is it that they aren't just kind of like saying, hey, let's just let it happen and the Trump administration is going to take care of a problem that we don't necessarily like politically, but it helps us with our own constituents here?

[Alma Oheno Pari]

The way I look at it is it seems like you, when I watch that clip, what I see from it is like a gang leader who is riling up his gang to protect their territory. Yeah, that's basically what that sounds like. And the protect Act, I think what he's missing in that title is to protect the car. So, yes, I don't understand why they would not partner with the Trump administration and have them actually take care of a problem for them, which is plaguing that city, which the residents are complaining about, which is high illegal immigration. And so it's just crazy to me that they can't manufacture any sense of actual care for their own constituents enough to put aside their hatred for Trump and look at something that can potentially help their own residents. It's just amazing to me how far people can get down this hatred rabbit hole to the point where left is right, right is left, up is down, and down is up to the point where they can spit in the faces of the people who are suffering all these shootings just so they can be against Trump. It's just amazing to me how that is happening.

[Joe Bob]

It is it's almost like there's a term for that, like a Trump derangement syndrome. If that hasn't caught on, I'm gonna try and get that going. Cuz I feel like that's exactly what I think you're describing. This I thought was interesting too, in the whole illegal immigration topic. Grace, CBS just, just had this headline was just in. So is. This is a disaster. I can't believe this is happening. Reveals 1.2 million drop in immigrant workers under Trump. They're talking about the Census Bureau data, which I don't. I mean, if I'm going to throw a shot at the census data. Census Bureau. The data conflates legal and illegal immigrants. But let's just assume that the majority of this is illegal here because those are the people that are actually scared and leaving jobs. CBS reported this as like just the worst possible thing that could happen. Grace, though, I, I kind of see this as, oh cool, there's a million jobs that are wide open for Americans to go get. This sounds awesome, right?

[Grace Riley]

Yeah, that's exactly right. And that's exactly the point and what people should focus on. I mean, remember all of those people who said eliminating illegal alien workers from our workforce would destroy American industries like farming, food processing and hospitality. Those racist people, I might add. More fear mongering that did not end well or age well because as you're saying, more jobs for Americans and more order in our country. You have to follow our laws and be a legal citizen to legally work in our country. It's pretty simple. And I, I'm not sure why that's not computing for so many people still, CBS included.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah, Alma, the thing that I think frustrates me the most, and it's not even necessarily the reporting around it, it's the Census Bureau conflating both legal and illegal. That is the only thing we try and do here. Hey, there's a difference. The difference matters. And if you're gonna, if you're gonna combine the two numbers effectively, that number means nothing to me. What? Who's here legally, who's here illegally, and how do we separate those numbers? What? I don't know. What can we do to push that more and more and more? To stop just saying, oh, migrants. Okay, legal or illegal, why do, why do we have to continue asking that question?

[Alma Oheno Pari]

At the end of the day, they're trying to push a certain narrative. And that narrative basically is to sow fear among people who are here legally. And the purpose for that is to continue to substantiate their claim against Trump that he is against immigration in general. Right. And so this is something that is calculated for a specific purpose and it is working. Yesterday I posted a video talking about something Gavin Newsom said. And a lot of people came to my comments telling me that ICE was arresting citizens and legal immigrants, you know, willy nilly, just because they look brown. Right. And so this is part of a concerted effort to maintain a narrative that appears to be collapsing. So you have to conflate these numbers so that you can create this idea that it is completely indiscriminate and it is because of racism or something like that and not because you're trying to protect the American worker. And the part that annoys me the most are the farm owners who are saying, oh, we're not going to have people picking our crops. I'm like, why do you have to do it illegally? There is a legal process to do that, so why do you have to do it illegally? You are telling me that you need people to come here and work for slave wages just so that you can have farm workers pick our crops. I think that is the most offensive part of that entire argument is that you need slaves basically to come and do that work.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah, I mean, that's only possible if the libs open the border and let people come in and do the work for very, very low wages. Yeah, it's a, it's a ridiculous argument all the way around. And I think the baseline is, yeah, let's, let's get all the illegals out of here and just keep the American dream for Americans. As of right now, not saying you can't come in, but there's a huge illegal problem and I think we all see it. Alma and Grace will be back after the break to discuss. Like I said, Lord Farquaad who. That'll make sense to you if you've watched the Shrek movie and then see this new picture of Greta Thunberg and squad goals. One of the squad members cashing in big even though she said, no, no, I'm not, I'm not rich. Remember, you can email the show anytime you want. TPTP USA.com we love seeing all of your emails and we might even play some of the funny videos slash memes that you see on the Internet and send it to us on segment four. So TPTP USA.com don't blow away. We'll be right back after the break.

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[Joe Bob]

Welcome back to Turning Point tonight, where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. Gotta remind you, you can email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com we love seeing all your emails. Tptp USA.com let's check in with Turning Point's White House correspondent, Monica Page at the White House, seemingly with. With nothing to do because obviously President Trump is. Is bedridden. You know, he's on the way. All of the Internet sleuths that in mainstream media that just miss the Biden mental collapse somehow caught on to the fact that President Trump is doing fine, but they wanted to make it so that he wasn't doing fine. Monica, what the heck is going on here?

[Monica Page]

I wish I could tell you, Joe.

[Alex Clark]

Bob.

[Monica Page]

It seems like these Internet sleuths really crack the code on President Trump's health. Mind you, we already have a full physical that was just released a couple months ago regarding President Trump's health. But these guys are seemingly convinced because they don't see President Trump for 12 hours that he has to be bedridden. He's in probably the worst shape of his life. He's hanging on by a thread, but he was just. People have to understand that the president, when he takes time to go golfing over the weekend, it's not just a leisurely activity. He's making deals in the process as well. He's meeting with People, he's still talking to people making deals. He's still, it's, it's absolutely insane. Now, I will tell you, over the last four years, I'd say about a year and a half that I was covering personally, Joe Biden's White House, there were times where we didn't get a press briefing for weeks. I think we had maybe four press briefings in the month of August of this time last year, maybe saw Joe Biden a small handful of times arriving and departing off the South Lawn. We never saw fully televised Cabinet meetings for three plus hours long. We never saw multiple addresses from the Oval Office multiple times a week. It's insane. But I will say that it's very funny to see people really try and find something wrong when President Trump is clearly in great health.

[Joe Bob]

Well, Monica, the reason that you didn't see President Biden is he was so diligently at work. It was the best Biden yet. He was, he was obviously nothing going wrong there, and that's, that's why he was just, he was just working very hard. I always thought that was really funny. Harry Sisson, who. Okay, first of all, many people in my conservative circle didn't know about this because it's not a real thing. And I was just watching libs lose their mind. Harry said, yikes, not looking good whatsoever. Some other guy said, recycled photos of proof of life aren't working. Like, I guess I couldn't wrap my head around how this is possibly happening on the left side of the aisle.

[Monica Page]

Read especially, is all shut down. Melania Trump hasn't been seen. Like, okay, maybe they're doing construction on the roads.

[Joe Bob]

Hello? Yeah, it's, it was, it's bizarre to say the least. And also, which side talks about the other side being conspiracy theories? I forget, is that, is that them? Who. Sorry, I just, you know, was thinking of that in real time onto some actual important things. The President is moving the command center for the Space Force. Can you tell us about what's going on on that front?

[Monica Page]

This is actually huge news here, Joe. Bob, because since its inception in 1985, the Space Command headquarters were always based in Colorado. But back In December of 2019, President Trump tried to move the Space Hub to Alabama because he initially started Space Force, but unfortunately under the Biden administration, he quickly reversed that because he was convinced not to move the Space Hub to Alabama. But mind you, Alabama really became this missile rocket hub post World War II. And given the fact that you've got like the Marshall Airbase Space Base out there as well, it seems like the perfect idea to move something like this to Alabama, but unfortunately President Biden was convinced not to. Probably for political purposes. Many speculate, many also speculate that Biden didn't want to move military hubs to states that were restricting abortions. So it all seems to be pretty political, the reasons why he did not move the base. But President Trump is actually making moves on this this time around during his second term. It's also expected to save taxpayers a whopping $420 million, which is fantast, I think what really boosts military readiness, God forbid we need it. So this is a huge development, huge announcement coming today and I'm definitely excited to see, you know, maybe some growth happening in Alabama due to this news. But nonetheless it's, it's very big.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah, that's going to be huge to watch. And also, yeah, I think more military in a state is going to bolster these states reasonableness. Not that we have to worry about Alabama, but yeah, it should be, should be good going forward. Monica Page, turning Points White House correspondent, thanks so much for checking in. Really appreciate it. We'll see you tomorrow.

[Monica Page]

Thanks, Joe.

[Joe Bob]

Bob, thank you. Financial disclosures tend to be a pain for people who make a lot of money somehow while they're sitting in the US Congress. People like former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, whose net worth has increased by hundreds of millions of dollars while doing the public service that she does. Interestingly enough, we're tacking on a new name to that list. 1 Ilhan Omar, representative from Minnesot who recently a couple months ago claimed, no, I'm, I'm not a millionaire. I'm just a, I'm just a beleaguered Somali immigrant that happens to be in Congress. Let's bring our panel back. Grace and Alma. Guys, this, what this, this is just, the irony is just too rich. It's just dripping in so much irony that I, I don't know if I can take it. Grace. Ilhan Omar said months ago that no, I'm not, I'm not a Bill, I'm not a millionaire by any stretch of the imagination where her new financial disclosures show that she might be worth up to $30 million. Some of the specifics of that are, are pretty weird to say the least. Her, her and her husband's Net Worth climbed 3,500% over the last time she had to do her financial disclosures. Which is, which is a lot. You know, if you can find a money manager that can get you, I don't know, 10 to 15%. That. That's pretty good. 3,500% is. Is quite a bit up there, Grace. You know, do I have to be a socialist to be rich in this country? Because apparently the more I screech about socialism, the. The better my chances. The better my chances are being elected to public office where that's where I make all the real money. What's going on here, you know, that's.

[Grace Riley]

How it goes, and that's what we're seeing now. And of course, this is rich coming from someone who took to the House floor recently to decry GOP memories, using their actions as an elected. As an elected official to benefit themselves. And of course, this is shocking. Another corrupt Marxist politician that is a complete hypocrite. And as you said, like, the details of this are even more telling. It came from her husband's winery that that percentage went up that significantly. I mean, 3500% increase is crazy. And to have that big of a net worth, I mean, it's pretty crazy that the company allegedly went from less than $1,000 in assets in 2023 to assets valued between 5 million and 25 million by the end of 2025. I'm no financial expert, but shouldn't the financial growth. Shouldn't financial growth of that magnitude in a very short period of time trigger alarm bells? But again, another hypocrite Marxist in Congress.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah, I. Again, I wish I had. The returns that her and her husband are getting. Alma, Grace mentioned the winery. It is gone up 20 times in value according to these financial disclosures. She also talked about her husband's capital fund that was, I think, a thousand bucks not too long ago and is now close to $25 million or up to $25 million. The good news. The good news here, if there is good news. Alma, do you think the president, who has gone now after the mortgage fraud of several of the other. The elites in our government, you think he'll take the opportunity and go, yeah, this does seem extremely fishy. We're going to look into it.

[Alma Oheno Pari]

Yes. Seriously, I was just thinking the exact same thing. I was just wondering, how is she valuing those assets? Is she about to take a loan and she's valuing the assets to get a better rate of return? I don't know, but those kinds of returns seem like completely made up. Now, I have no evidence that this is wrong, and I don't begrudge people who do well financially because I'm a capitalist, but this seems quite interesting that you could grow in 12 months that kind of rate. It seems quite interesting to me. And if you're going to be a true socialist, why do you accept those growth numbers? Why don't you immediately liquidate those resources so that the poor people in Minnesota can have access to your wealth? So the hypocrisy is not just growing in your wealth, but also not actually doing the thing that leftists are constantly saying the rich should do, which is to redistribute their wealth. So I'm looking for the day when she has a garage sale and gives that wealth away. I'm looking forward to that event. I think it would be really interesting.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah, that is a great point. She should just sell everything and give it to all of the people, because that's what the socialist dream is. Reminds me of Senator Sanders over there, who's got three houses, which, dang, man, those socialists do really, really well fighting capitalism and oligarchy or what the heck they're doing now. Speaking of crazy things to get involved with, I. This has no actual political or newsworthy significance, but it's just funny. Lord Farquaad, also known as Greta Thunberg, the climate activist, has taken on a new directive. She's going to fix the war in Gaza. A couple months ago, she set off on, like, some boat and then got captured at sea. Just like, yeah, this is. You can't do this. She's. She's at it again. She's got, she's got humanitarian aid on what she calls a flotilla. It's just a boat. Unfortunately, Grace, though, the weather was too bad, so they had to turn the boat around. They're gonna try again. My, my. Just initial analysis of this, if you can't get past the weather, I don't know if you're gonna get past an Israeli blockade. But again, I don't know anything about military war zones. So maybe I'm just speaking out of my butt here. Do you think that's possible? That she's going to end the war in Gaza?

[Grace Riley]

Yeah, you know, that would be something if she alone ended the war in Gaza, of course. And she's been there before. She's tried this before, and it didn't work then. And of course never mentioned looking at all of this, is that Israel's working with international partners in the un, The US to help facilitate the delivery of humanitarian aid. And what's also been reported over and over again is Hamas preventing their own people from getting this aid. So maybe she'd see that if she made it there. But the unfortunate thing, too, I mean, climate change is her cause. So it's interesting that she's hopped on this different bandwagon. We don't know, is it for attention? Is she trying to get back in the news cycle? Because we haven't seen her for quite a while. But it'll be interesting to see what happens when she tries again. It's probably better for. For everyone if she stops getting in the news cycle so much. But we'll have to see.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah, Alma. So zoom out with me just kind of on a broader spokes to try and get some significance out of this. Why is it that libs have to try as hard as they possibly can to virtue signal? Because that's what this actually is. It's not actually going to save anybody. She's not actually going to do anything. But she wants to say, but at least I tried. Why is that so important to libs?

[Alma Oheno Pari]

I think the leftist mindset is basically as follows. Because there is no substance to the things that they're fighting for in many cases, because they're not tethered to reality. They have to put on a show. It is a necessary part of the process. They have to put on a show to get the emotions of people up. So think about it. It's almost like watching a movie and then having the person who is editing the movie put in music for the purpose of getting your emotions up for a particular scene. And this is the music that they need to support their leftism. Because when you go into brass tacks, you realize that none of their ideas actually work. None of their proposals are actually real. And they need all these tactics for the purpose of kind of creating smoke and mirrors so you don't see the man behind the curtain. And so it is a necessary part of leftism to virtue signal. They can't live without it because without it, seriously, the ideology shrivels up and you see it for what it is, basically naked politics. It is a power grab and that doesn't fly. And that's why they need these tactics.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah, I do like your analogy, but that sounds like a terrible soundtrack. It's just nails screeching on a chalkboard trying to invoke emotion, which my emotion is anger and just frustration with you people trying to pull the little heartstrings. Faking up, faking up victimhood. Awesome, guys. Hey, Alma Grace, thank you so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time. We'll have you back.

[Grace Riley]

Thanks so much.

[Alma Oheno Pari]

Thanks for having me.

[Joe Bob]

Thank you. Coming up next here on Turning Point tonight got an awesome clip from Alex Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast. Remember, you can also email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com love seeing all your emails. Don't go away. I'll be right back after the break.

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[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

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[Carol Markowitz]

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[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

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[Carol Markowitz]

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[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.

[Carol Markowitz]

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[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

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[Alex Clark]

So you bringing up okay, you notice something? You didn't love how your husband handled a situation privately, away from the kids, away from other people you address. Hey, I don't love how you handle that situation, but what gets lost in the submission conversation is, okay, how how am I submitting? While also maybe holding accountable on sin? How do you call out lovingly, gracefully your husband when he does mess up? I mean, what does that look like when you're also being submissive?

[Marriage Counselor]

Here's one one thing to keep in mind about any any relationship that you have. You want like 20 times the praise and affirmation ratio to the criticism or the questioning of how a person did things. A person of any age or gender needs much, much more positive affirmation in order to build the relational capital that allows you to have an audience with them when you do need to bring that thing to them. It's the same with friends. I mean, a friend that you barely know, but you're going to go to her and bring sin to her attention. You don't have the relational capital with that person to do that. And I would say with your, with your husband adding in the respect element, you know, kick that ratio up even Higher. You know, if he is hearing from you on a regular basis, I trust your judgment. I am so grateful that you're providing for our family or that you went to work today. I'm so glad that you're here with me tonight instead of somewhere else. You know, if he's hearing that kind of thing from you, and that's what he expects to hear from you when you open your mouth, that's what he's used to out of you. You have so much capital to then also be a fellow disciple with him and bring sin to his attention when. You know, when that's necessary. Wow.

[Alex Clark]

That makes sense.

[Marriage Counselor]

I also say that if he has friends in his life, and it would be so one. You know, it's wonderful if he does have this. You know, men who will bring things to him half the time, a man, his friend bringing it to him. It just works better. I'm not sure why that is. I mean, there are things that only I can see, you know, obviously some there. But it's a joke, you know, it's a joke between us that he'll come home and say, you'll never guess what so and so told me today. I really should consider that. And he's joking because it's something that you had told him. Yeah, yeah. Six months ago or whatever. But it's just. It's life, you know, and you can. You can kick against it. You can say, this is. I hate this. You know, I don't want to have to give. I don't have to fill the bank account with 20 praises for any criticism. But it's reality. And if you want to stay married and be happy in your marriage, get with. Get with what's real. Get with the way God made the world.

[Alex Clark]

How many years have you been married?

[Marriage Counselor]

13 years.

[Alex Clark]

13 years.

[Marriage Counselor]

We're pretty baby married.

[Alex Clark]

So how did you gain all of this wisdom?

[Marriage Counselor]

I don't. I don't. I don't know.

[Grace Riley]

You just know your stuff.

[Alex Clark]

I was expecting you to say, like, 25. I mean, I don't know. That's impressive. Did you. Was it important for you guys in the dating stage to have another Christian married couple mentoring you and, like, walking you through things in those first years of marriage and also in dating or. Yeah, yeah.

[Marriage Counselor]

Well, we had, you know, we had our premarital counseling with our pastor and his wife. And then we have had friends that we've gone to through the years and just asked advice, you know, be in a church where you know people in your church and you have intimacies in your church, because those are the people who are going to tell you, go back home and apologize to your husband or go back home and repent to your wife. And those are the people that you want in your life.

[Alex Clark]

Is being fretful, quarrelsome, or nagging entirely in your belief a wife's fault, or do husbands typically play some sort of role?

[Marriage Counselor]

Of course they play some sort of role. Everybody sins in a marriage. Everybody sins in a marriage. So you can't. There's no counting who sinned more. You know, he did something. I know he did. Because he's a person. You know, for a wife that needs to stop being the point, like that needs to be the thing that she's ready to say, that is no longer the point for me. The point is, can I take responsibility for my. For my side of the street? Can I keep clean? Can I keep short accounts on my sin? Do I know how to repent of my own sin?

[Alex Clark]

What should true repentance look like in a marriage?

[Marriage Counselor]

Okay, here's what it sounds like. I'm sorry for specific thing that you did or said, it was wrong. Will you forgive me? That's it. That's it. And it can. This is something else also. You know, in the book, the idea that you would live with somebody and never sin against them is impossible, right? If you ever made. Have you ever tried to make a cake before? Like, you can't. You can't bake without getting flour places. It's not possible. I've never done it one time. So the way that you keep a clean counter is not by baking perfectly. It's by wiping the counter down on a regular basis. The way that you keep short accounts and keep from cresting over sin in a marriage is by. Is by repenting on a regular basis. And you should expect it. You should not say, something's wrong here. Something's gone terribly wrong. We're having to repent to each other. You should say, oh, this is. This is normal. This is like cleaning your house. It's part of being a person is that you have to repent.

[Alex Clark]

And so what happens if you're repenting to your spouse and you're saying sorry and they're saying, you know, well, I don't believe your apology because you've already made this mistake before or something to that effect.

[Marriage Counselor]

You know, that may be the feeling, even if they're not saying it. You know, if they're more gracious and they're not saying that, like, I'm glad you're apologizing, but you'll probably do this again next week. You know, that's not really your responsibility is how they accept the responsibility, how they accept the apology. Also, it's not your responsibility whether they return with one for what they did because they probably did something. You don't apologize to someone in order to get an apology back or knowing how it's going to be handled. You apologize because it's you keeping your conscience clean before the Lord and you doing your. You keep taking care of your part. It's your part to take care of. And independent of what they do, that's still your responsibility. You stand before the Lord.

[Alex Clark]

What is your opinion on silent treatment in a marriage after a fight?

[Marriage Counselor]

I don't like it, but it's. It's my weapon of choice because I'm not the person who accidentally speaks, so I'm the person who thinks and thinks and thinks and thinks and lines up all the wrongs to count them over the next day. So what I've actually had to learn more of is a little more what I would. What feels like confrontation to me because it's a difficult conversation. But of going and saying, you know, I'm sorry, and starting that conversation, but also choosing the time and the place to say this has hurt me, that's something else. It's like. It's hard to say. It's hard to just say you hurt my feelings because it's vulnerable to say that. It's less vulnerable to punch back. It's hard to just say that. Hurt my feelings. Yeah.

[Alex Clark]

How can you overcome being a quarrelsome wife if your husband is a jerk? I mean, to put it mildly. Like, I remember one episode we did, we had listeners submit marriage questions. And she had said, you know, I asked. I tried to start this habit of asking my husband, how can I love you best today? And he said, well, you sure already know that.

[Marriage Counselor]

I don't know why you're asking me. Jerk. Yeah, jerk. Way to respond. Although I would say a lot of women seem to live that, like, have that kind of attitude towards their husbands. You should already know. Yeah, I do feel like that's a. That's an unwritten and unspoken demand that we can tend to have with men. If you were. If you're in a. Just a super difficult marriage with a man who just has not. Had never seen himself clearly. You've got a hard road. You really do. And I don't. I don't want to just breeze past that. It's a hard road. It's a road that many women have walked before you, and many men have walked before you. What you do is you. You get down on your knees and you pray and ask for help every single day. You beg for that day's allotment of help to do what is right by your husband, not because he deserves it, but because it's what the Lord has asked you to do. And it glorifies him when you do that faithfulness that is invisible to anyone but you and the Lord is glorifying to him.

[Alex Clark]

If a wife's temper reflects what's going on in her heart, how do you root out the real cause of quarrels?

[Marriage Counselor]

Yeah, James says that the reason that we quarrel and fight is because we're not getting what we want. We aren't getting what we want. A woman who is quarrelsome, a woman who is continually henpecking and is difficult to live with. She's not doing it because it's fun, right? She's not doing it because she wakes up in the morning and it's just like, you know what sounds fun? Today I'm gonna just make life miserable for everyone around me. But she does it because there's something that she wants. And for some reason she thinks this is the path to get that thing. And maybe if I continually remind him again and again of how disappointing he's been to me, eventually it's going to motivate him enough that he's going to change. Or if I continue to voice my feelings, maybe that will some way make me feel better. You know, if I continue to narrate all of my frustrations in life to everyone who can hear me, maybe that'll make me feel better somehow. You don't do it because it's fun. You do it because it's a habit and because you're pursuing something.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Ham.

[Carol Markowitz]

And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.

[Carol Markowitz]

That's why we started Normalely, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.

[Carol Markowitz]

We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday.

[Carol Markowitz]

And Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.

[Joe Bob]

Welcome back to Turning Point tonight, where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. Remember, you can email the show anytime you want. Tptposa.com turningpoint tonight [e-mail] we love seeing all of your emails and if you send us some hilarious videos like the video that we're going to play yet, we might actually end up seeing it on the show. You can also go to amfest am fest.com to get 50% off of general admission tickets to, in my opinion, the best turning point event of the year. I know I've said, yeah, they're all, they're all great and they are, but this one is just objectively the best. I just, you know, I just got to say it. America Fest, AM Fest, American Fest.com 50% off general admission tickets. Now this video that we're going to play and I got to get to it quick because we don't have a ton of time is the prime example of think or at least at the very least understand a little bit more of what you're talking about before you go run your mouth. Libs need to learn this especially. But watch this. And the 180 reversal that happens when this guy figures out, oh shoot, I am on the wrong side of this. Check this out. Hey y', all, be careful. They arresting people at work here. Hard working Americans who build, you know, the ones who do all your landscaping, work on your cars, fix all your stuff. They coming out here, taking them all. They're coming out here, just taking everybody at work. Be careful. Everybody don't go to work today. Where you work child sex scribes. So. Oh, you do? Yeah. Never mind. He's a weirdo. Never mind. He's a better. Do me a favor. No.

[Alma Oheno Pari]

So one of one of the goals.

[Joe Bob]

That we try to do with stuff like this is we really try to get a lot of people have a.

[Alma Oheno Pari]

Lot of victims out there and they.

[Joe Bob]

Don'T like to talk to us. Gotcha.

[Alma Oheno Pari]

Like they feel embarrassed about things.

[Joe Bob]

So just our goal is to save children out here. Absolutely. I'm 100 with that probably. This is a great. This is the good guy. This is the good guy right there. We saving children. If you have children, watch out for that guy. Yeah, I don't want to make light about that at all. That is a, that is a bad person. Allegedly. Because you know, all of the actual legal stuff. Bad dude. But also at the same time that the, the example of that guy. Watch out. They're, they're picking people up off the street. And you know, you might think that if you Listen to people like Governor Gavin Newsom who said they're gonna arrest citizens and all that crap that they say on the lib side of the aisle. Uh oh, if, if anybody's getting arrested on the street, it's gotta be ice and they have to be vindicated, these people. The guy comes and say, yeah, we're actually the child sex crimes division. And that guy is, is going away for a very long time because of what he's done. Oh, okay. Bottom line, think before you open your mouth. Do a little bit of processing before you start deciding to take aside one way or the other. That's gon do it for us here at Turning Point tonight. Charlie's going to take us out. We will see you tomorrow, same time, same place. God bless America.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Ham.

[Carol Markowitz]

And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.

[Carol Markowitz]

That's why we started Normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.

[Carol Markowitz]

We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.

[Mary Kathryn Hamm]

So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday.

[Carol Markowitz]

And Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.

[Alex Clark]

And then you have a revolving do here with the industry of the same industry is telling you you should take a certain medical product or eat a certain food, are able to capture the science and buy the studies and pick the scientists saying that we should be eating that or taking that, that it's, it's so evil. I, I, I can't even express to you. So when we say Maha, we're getting into all of these things.

[Turning Point USA Announcer]

Yeah. But it's an overarching thing. We want America to be healthy.

[Alex Clark]

Yeah.

[Turning Point USA Announcer]

Skinnier and happier.

[Alex Clark]

It's like kind of that's the or, or the Guardian. What they like to say about me in a hit piece is that I want to make all women thin, fertile and Republican.

[Turning Point USA Announcer]

Yes.

[Alex Clark]

I guess that's bad.

[Turning Point USA Announcer]

No, you need to have a shirt. Thin, fertile, Republican.

[Alex Clark]

I know. I want to do a whole campaign, I want to do a whole marketing campaign for the show that says that. I thought it was hilarious.

[Turning Point USA Announcer]

I love that. So, but now let's transition to how monumental this was and this if of all the stuff that has happened in the 2024 election, we had a lot of coalitions built. Now, when you win a popular vote majority and you build coalitions, you just have to accept that some of those coalitions are gonna probably fall apart once you win. Right? You got people arguing about Iran, you got people arguing about government transparency, and that's normal. But to President Trump's enormous credit, he did two things. He won the presidency, obviously, and he put Bobby Kennedy in charge of hhs. And I remember I was talking to him about this at Mar a Lago, and he said, charlie, I'm getting a lot of phone calls from all these drug companies. He resisted so much pressure from Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson. And he said, I'm inclined just to give Bobby the whole thing because, you know, they wanted us to have Bobby have some committee. They literally. The idea that was put forward by the lobbyist just put Bobby in charge of some sort of panel that gets headlines every six months. And if that. And Bobby asked for the entire thing, the President, United States gave him that. And so, believe it or not, he is the most popular cabinet member by far.

[Alex Clark]

Oh, yeah.

[Turning Point USA Announcer]

It's not even close. Yeah, he has, like, 58% approval rating. And that's Democrats, that's independents, that's Republicans. So now, Alex, I want you to riff and credit to President Trump for keeping his promise and keeping this coalition together. And that completes my point. Then I want you to go through your riff on the winds, which is that MAHA is the most cohesive movement from the 2024 election, and it's not even close. MAHA has grown since the election. MAHA has strengthened and Democrat Party, they have no interest in trying to embrace being healthy. They are the party of processed foods. They're the party of obesity and pharmaceuticals. Now, go through the wins. How are we winning? What is RFK Jr doing in power to advance the MAHA agenda?

[Alex Clark]

So the cumulative work that we've accomplished with when it comes to health in America in this administration exceeds any other administration in presidential history, period. In the United States, we removed artificial food dyes in the first 60 days, which we know has caused behavioral issues in children. And it shows that children have. It can also, you know, wreak carcinogenic effects that we've seen. We also accomplished SNAP reform. We're looking into what's allowed in formula, infant formula with Operation Stork speed right now, vaccine reform. There's. There's a cup. There's some division that you might see on social media when it comes to the MAHA movement, you've got this camp that's obsessed with food. You've got this camp that's obsessed, obsessed with. We have to only focus on vaccines. We are accomplishing things with vaccines, okay? We have canceled MRNA vaccine contracts. We've ended the requirement that the COVID vaccine has to be given to pregnant women and children. We're restoring academic freedom at the nih and we are now acknowledging and tracking vaccine injury, which our government has basically never done, by the way. They've basically never done that. So you have all these families that are like, my child was vaccine injured. And then you have the pro vaccine. People like, well, there's no data to show that these are causing anything because the government hasn't been tracking it on purpose to protect the industry. So we're going to fix that. We're fixing the grass loophole. So grass GR A s, that means products. It stands for generally recognized as safe. And what that means is there was a loophole where companies have been allowed to self certify that certain food additives are generally recognized as safe without formal FDA approval or even notifying the FDA in some cases. So the food companies were just deciding, oh, I think this ingredient is good to go. We don't really need to show anybody else. That's a problem. We have now a full review of food additives that are being. That are banned in other countries. So we're checking what's going in all of our food. This is exciting this week. Now this may have, you may have seen this and like, that's nice. And you didn't really think anything about it. This is actually one of our biggest wins. And let me explain why. So you may have seen that we just brought back the presidential fit test for elementary students. This is so exciting, you guys. It's actually arguably one of the most important things, believe it or not, because it's not that we don't have a, it's not that we, we need a policy issue with health. We, we really have a cultural issue. More than anything, we have a cultural issue. And so kids need to be exercising. They need to understand what's in their food and how to read ingredients and nutrition labels. This is going to help give more accountability for the food that we serve kids and where it comes from. Number one, this is going to be a total awakening that is going to lead Americans and totally demand change. Health has to be embedded into American culture. So when you are starting teaching this stuff with kids in elementary school, that's really where it starts, right? So we're getting rid of all the DEI bs. And we're adding in the Presidential Fitness Test, which is super exciting to start that conversation with students on their health. Real health, not industry bought and paid for health. HHS currently working with federal agencies to create an official standardized definition of ultra processed food. This is important we don't have that because this is going to give a clear guidance on what counts as ultra processed food. There will be a revamped nutritional guideline not bought and paid for by industry that we can go go off. Now here's what you need to be concerned by and every single person listening and every single person in this room needs to be fired the hell up about this issue. We are dipping our toes in a dangerous area when it comes to the MAHA movement and potentially rocking the boat of all of these millions of voters that I just told you we just gained. Because we are now flirting with the idea of a chemical liability shield. Foreign chemical companies are launching a coordinated campaign right now to secure sweeping legal immunity for chemical products in the United States. This legislate, this legislation is going to prevent Americans from holding companies accountable, the chemical companies accountable for health damages by the way, of over 57,000 chemicals. This is exactly, this is exactly if you remember what we did when it comes to vaccines. We gave the vaccine companies immunity, right? So parents couldn't sue them. We are now about to do this with chemical companies in the United States if we do not all start calling our congressmen and congresswomen and saying enough is enough. We do not support this. You better not support this.

[Marriage Counselor]

This is an I Heart podcast.