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In other ways it's sickening and horrifying, especially when you look at where it's happening. All that more coming up on this episode of Turning Point Tonight. My name is Joe Bob. Thanks so much for tuning in. Together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. This is is Turning Point tonight. Now I gotta remind you that you can email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com we love seeing your emails. Whether you agree with everything we've ever said on the show or you're wrong, doesn't matter. Love sending in your emails. TPTP USA.com also send us some funny memes or stories or this is we like to have fun here, especially in segment four. That's when we pull all of those bad boys up. Now before we get to any of those stories and our fantastic panel, and we do have a fantastic panel today, I gotta get to this because I really think this is interesting and I'm gonna warn you to try to explain somewhat of a difficult to explain story. There's a lot of stuff going on here so I want to try and make it as concise as possible. But you know, who knows if I'm going to get around to doing that in appropriate and manageable fashion. California's Supreme Court issued a new ruling on their three strikes law. If you don't know anything about the three strikes rule, California to its credit, this actually makes some sense. If you commit and convicted of three, three either violent or serious felonies, you automatically get sentenced to 25 years to life. In other words, if you do too many of these things, three violent felonies. Yeah, we, we don't really need you in society anymore. Just, just go off to the prison and just rot there until you're no longer. That makes sense. Okay. So if you are a gang member, the chances of you getting a strike in that three strikes policy goes up because of the enhancements to your crime. If you committed or attempted murder, the, the chances that you get a strike go up because you're a part of the gang. Well, the California Supreme Court recently ruled that a law that was instituted in 2021 which raised the burden of proof to prove that somebody was in a gang, well, that meant that gang members that were convicted prior to that, but their issue was still on appeal might have a strike be taken away. Let me try and simplify that just a little bit more. And if you were issued a strike because you were a gang member, the California Supreme Court basically said, according to this new 2021 law is, well, we're not entirely sure if you were a gang member because now the burden of proof is higher and therefore you might have to eliminate one of those strikes again on those gang members who coveted, committed and were convicted of violent felonies. I hope that makes sense. I hope there was a decent job of explaining that. The bottom line here is though, California continuing the trajectory of being completely soft on crime. I wonder how that's gonna work out for the formerly golden state. Let's bring in our panel. Kristen Sokoloff is a conservative commentator and Beau Robinson is a comedian and also commentator among many other things. Guys, thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time.
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Kristen, I want to start with you here. California has hit a lot of blowback, especially from around the country. Especially with one Governor Newsom and his presidential hopes saying, hey, you guys are just not prosecuted crime in the last decade or so and it seems to be a crime ridden hell hole. Are you going to do anything to fix that? And it seems like the California legislature and the Supreme Court says, nope, it's totally, it's fine. We're not going to give gang bangers strikes at all. Uh, what are your thoughts looking in on the messed up laboratory of democracy that is California.
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Oh my gosh. So basically with what you're talking about, this guy could be dripping in gang colors, head to toe bandanas, flashing gang signs in every picture on Facebook. I Learned one in 8th grade. I was showing Glenn earlier. But anyways, that's not Enough anymore. I, you know, we're needing at this point a notarized profit loss statement from the gang's accountant before we can call it gang related and prove that the gang financially benefited. That is one of the changes made.
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Yeah, that is, I thank you for summing that up so well because I, yeah, there's a lot of stuff to condense in there, but yeah, that's effectively what it is. You really just need a notarized signature from the gang member saying, I am in this gang. That's effectively what you need both trajectory wise. You think this is going to work out well for California? Kind of lowering the standard. Sorry, Raising the standards to hit that three strikes rule and having more violent criminals out on the street. I think I have a follow up question that is anything working out for California right now? They might as well call these strikes balls because after three or four, they're letting these guys walk. You know what I mean? I feel bad for the gangs. These guys take a long time to build up these rap sheets and slowly they're just erasing all of the crimes they've ever done. I'm worried about California. I'm worried for you, Joe Bob. I'm worried for me. I'm worried for everybody in California right now because it seems like crime is on the uprise and they fail to report it.
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Yeah, you know, I'm not gonna necessarily condone feeling bad for the gangs, but at the same time, I understand your point. The street cred in the jail goes down like, hey, it's a year. Ruben got a strike knocked off, man, that guy's not as cool anymore. That's, that's, that's a fair point. That actually might, you know, might happen in some California prisons. I worked hard at this. Yeah, yeah. Speaking of California. Well, I guess California is, is heavily, heavily, heavily, heavily influenced by the teachers unions, one of the biggest spenders in California politics. We've all been aware of the teachers unions and how bad they are. And this is nothing against teachers necessarily. It's their unions. Well, where does their money go when they actually dole out money? 70% of the nation's public school teachers, government school teachers are part of the unions. And of that, Pew research says about 58% of them lean to the left while 35% of them lean to the right. So that's still a third of teachers, Kristen, that claim that, hey, we are semi conservative in our value system. Have we seen any teachers union stump for conservative values in any way, shape or form? As a, as someone who's very involved with and understanding the homeschool system. I don't know. What do you see the contrast between the public government schools and the homeschool systems and the values being, being propagated?
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Yeah. So it is wild because if we think about it, I don't know if you guys ever see this, but we have like the neighborhood apps and constantly our local teachers are asking for just randos to donate money so they can buy classroom supplies. And I always respond. I don't get a great. I don't get a great response from those that I put this out to, but I say, what happened to the tax dollars? Why aren't our tax dollars purchasing all of these supplies? Why are you asking us to then pay again? And they ask parents to pay again. So, you know, at this point, it's like parents buy the pencils unions by the politicians, quite frankly, they're begging for glue sticks. But the union is bankrolling Kamala. And I just have to say I looked into this and one of the places that the teachers unions are donating money to is Arabella Advisors and even the Wall Street Journal and said that it is dark money and billions flow through it, often to pop up groups that fund grassroots, but they're really just. It's a political storefront.
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Yeah, that seems to be exactly the case. I really feel like I want to go on the tangent of, okay, well, schools are funded by property taxes. Property values have gone through the roof. Property taxes therefore have gone through the roof. Revenue at least. So where the heck is that money going? But we don't. We can save that for like a three hour conversation on a podcast sometime. Bo, the president of the National Education Educator Educators association, told a public radio in Philadelphia that, well, we're actually pretty evenly split between conservatives and liberals now. We know that statistically that's just not true. But even if that was true, why then does it only seem like the teachers unions are stumping for liberal causes and there's. There's nothing about, hey, maybe we should stop brainwashing the kids? Among many other complaints that we conservatives probably have. Yeah, I love how he's like, no, we're evenly split between Republicans and Democrats, but the children are getting nothing of this, right? In Oakland, all the kids aren't reading at math levels and reading levels that are appropriate. They've actually dropped those levels too. So it's surprising to me that they worry so much about politics and instead of worrying about the kids, and I feel bad for these kids, they're going to School having to call Mr. Mead, Mrs. Mead, and they can't even pass a math test. It's a little infuriating. No, and you make a good point. But the only problem is you say they're going to school. Well, apparently they're not. According to the Wall Street Journal, absenteeism is through the roof. And absenteeism is when you have chronic absences or you, you miss a decent percentage of school, that means you're kind of chronically absent. Well, that number before the pandemic was about 15% nationwide, give or take. After the pandemic, obviously, it doubled, but they kind of figured, okay, well, this is gonna rebound. People are gonna come back to school. That never happened. That number really didn't fall to the level that it was pre pandemic. In other words, it. Kids aren't going to school. The schools are continuing to get the money that they, that they would get otherwise if the kids did go to school. And none of the kids can read, especially in these horrible school districts like the Chicago school district. Kristen. You know, I guess one, is it a good thing that some kids aren't going to their government schools, considering what the government schools are teaching them? Or should kids that say, hey, we are going to be enrolled in government schools actually attend at the very least?
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Oh, gosh, you know, honestly, it depends on what's happening. But I looked into this and it's not just, we think, oh, it's just poor families, parents not making their kids go to school. They're sitting home all day coloring. I don't know what they're doing. At minimum, video games, I don't know. But that's not the case. This is actually, we're seeing this in middle class and upper middle as well. And I think, you know, what I find is that absenteeism, it's not just laziness, it's a referendum on a broken public school system. We had a glimpse into what was being taught in 2020, and we didn't like it. And so for me, I pull my kids out, right? But not everyone can do that. And so I see them saying, you know, I saw what they're being taught. It's not much. It's not good. It's not going to kill us to let's go to the beach for a few days instead of having you go to school. You'll probably learn more.
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Yeah. And again, I don't necessarily know how much I hate that. My problem is the tax dollars are still getting spent and, and the teachers are still, well, the teachers unions are still bribing their way to these unbelievably lavish pension funds, which, again, conversation for a different time. Bo, you know, I don't want to put you on the spot here to, to, to be the arbitrator of what can and can't exist. Can the public schools, the government schools, be saved, in your opinion, from an outside perspective, or do we just have to scrap it all and figure out some other voucher system to charter schools or private schools? Can it be saved? I think it can be saved. Now, I don't know if you guys can tell just by looking at me, but I didn't go to a lot of school, and I would have gone to a lot less had the schools been like this today. We've had a problem with our schools for 30, 40 years. We've nationalized our education system, and everybody's got a basically blank a script to follow. And we need to get back to independent learning. I think private schools and school choice, which will allow schools to compete and make our system better. I think the problem is the unions. So I think it can be fixed. Good. Oh, hey, you know, a touch of optimism. I unfortunately, cynically do not think it can be fixed and need to burn the public school system, government school system to the ground. You know, a touch of optimism. I like optimism. We appreciate that. I agree.
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I just have to say with that, with the voucher system, with the shackle comes the shackle. And I just think it's really important because some people see it as freedom, but I see it as you still have the government asking you what books are you buying with that they can't be Christian. Right. Like, so there's so much that that goes into that that a lot of people, I don't accept vouchers for that reason. A lot of people that I homeschool with, they do, but they have to prove to the government that what they're buying really fits within their parameters.
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What it really comes down to, with that in mind, is I want an exemption on my property tax because I'm not spending that money at government schools. So therefore, there we go. We solved it. Kristen, you guys own homes. Christian, Bo will be back right after the break to discuss. Well, we may have a fix to the immigration backlog in the courts. This is unbelievable. Definitely unprecedented, and I'm super excited that it's happening. Also, you may be safer in Mexico than you are in Oakland. You can email the show anytime you want. TPTP USA.com we'll be right back after the break. Don't go away.
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Podcasts, or wherever you listen. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. Wanna remind you you can email the show anytime. Tptpusa.com Love seeing all of your emails. Let's check in with Turning Points White House correspondent Monica Page at the White House. Monica, how you doing?
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I'm doing great, Joe. Bob, It's a beautiful day here, so we.
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You look like you're doing better than those illegal slash gang banger people who are riding on the boat. Tell us what happened there. Yes, sorry, I'm burying the lead. If you haven't seen this video already, you're gonna see it a ton in the B roll. But Monica, President Trump took some action to against some trend Aragua members and what happened?
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I was just saying you can't play that video enough because it just doesn't get old. I mean, you've got, you've got 11 narco terrorists on this boat outside of Venezuela in international waters heading towards the United States. And the President ordered our military to strike the boat and essentially causing this explosion and killing these narco terrorists who would have committed atrocious crimes here on our soil, whether that is coming in here illegally or trying to, excuse me, trying to smuggle in drugs that kill Americans. So you've got two of the probably worst crimes you could commit here in the United States, murdering our own citizens. And the President said, you know what? We're going to escalate to de escalate. That's been something that the President has Been very good at doing one of, one of the most, the better policies that really work for this administration, where you're kind of creating a force of deterrence and saying, let this be a warning to anybody who tries to come to our country and kill our Americans and sell their drugs here on our soil. So the president did what he felt was the right move. But now you have a ton of liberal backlash. Joe Biden on social media. I've been seeing the Ed and Brian Krasnstein brothers and plenty of liberal pundits or bots on social media saying, trying to offer what seems to be their condolences towards these 11 narco terrorists, saying, oh, well, maybe Trump should have just seized the boat and seized the drugs and apprehended those criminals. But at the end of the day, you gotta do what's best for our country in keeping us safe. And that's exactly what the president.
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I also, yeah, one of the comments on the liberal backlash, they're saying, well, it's just gonna embolden them. That's not gonna stop these narco terrorists from coming into the country. On the contrary, I think that actually did a pretty good job at stopping them. I want to say that blowing up their boat is pretty effective.
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So they won't be back.
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Yeah, they. They will not be back for sure. Speaking of people who are coming into the United States, some people. We welcome the president of Poland. I don't. That was a pretty jarring transitions, but I think. I think the viewers know what I mean here. The leader of Poland, widely renowned as one of the more conservative countries not only in Europe but in the world, visited President Trump at the White House today. Tell us what was going on there.
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Yeah, Poland's been a country that's also kind of been bearing the brunt here when it comes to the Russia, Ukraine war, when it comes to accepting some refugees who are trying to flee due to the war. But the president meeting with the Polish president this morning, this afternoon, holding this Beautiful flyover of F16 and F35 fighter jets in honor of one of the F16 pilots, Polish pilot, who was killed tragically. President Trump honoring him in that beautiful flyover that we saw just this morning. But talks included trade and definitely trying to forge a path forward with this progress with this Russian Ukraine war. The president said today that he doesn't really have a message for Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin knows exactly where the president stands on this and does plan to hold a phone call with the Russian president in the coming days. So hopefully we'll find out More information. The president's also really been trying to get Zelensky and Putin together in this room together. It's kind of been very conflicting trying to get them together. I don't know if Putin's going to be holding up his side of the deal here, but nonetheless, the president is really kind of relying on his European allies of see what kind of more security assistance as we could provide to Ukraine in the meantime and how we can get these two sitting together face to face and forging this new path towards peace.
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Yeah, that's going to be really interesting to watch that unfold. Wow. Monica, thanks so much for reporting. Really appreciate you taking the time. We'll see you tomorrow.
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Thanks, Joe.
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Bob, thank you. I have been asking this question the entirety of the time that we've known there is a massive backlog of asylum seekers or illegal immigrants or whatever you want to call them in our court system. There's a three and a half million person waiting list, which is why all of this stuff is so slow. I again, would much rather be in the side of let's just kick the illegals out of the country and figure it out from there. The wait in Mexico policy that President Trump had in his first term was fantastic. But I've been wondering, why can't we get more judges to rule on these cases faster? Congress can approve it, but it looks like the president and the administration, President Trump is going to do exactly what I've been lobbying for. First of all, maybe he's listening to me. Maybe that's the thing. Maybe President Trump is listening to me. In which case, thank you so much, sir, for actually instituting something that I've been saying for a very long time. Let's bring our panel back. Kristen and Beau. Kristen, this is really, really interesting. The mil. So the Pentagon is now saying that military lawyers can serve as temporary judges in immigration cases, specifically clear this backlog. I. This, this is great news to me. I feel like this is. Why wasn't this happening to begin with, do you think? I was just about to ask the question. Do you think libs are going to have a fit about it? But I think we both know the answer to that. So, Elder, do you think that this might be the solution to getting this backlog cleared and finally getting our country back on track after the rampant illegal immigration over the last four years?
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Yes. When I read this, I had a raging heart on making a heart here because you as the left is saying that this is undermining the courts. No, this isn't undermining the courts. What undermines the courts is a backlog so big that people stay here illegally for a decade before their hearing. I love this.
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Yeah, it's. It feels like, honestly, it's doing justice. The people who are afforded the right to a quick trial, which, you know, hey, here's you, here's your quick trial, Bo, you know, I kind of feel like once all of this backlog is cleared out, I think the country's going to start running way more smoothly because you've got, like, you still have two competing problems. Yes, the border is stopped. With President Trump in power, nobody's coming in, but at the same time, you still got millions of people here illegally. Once you get through that process, I just. I don't know, I feel like things are going to run a bunch smoother. Is there any reason why we wouldn't do something like this? I can't imagine why we wouldn't do something like this. And I can't imagine more people aren't signing up. Why do we need lawyers at all to do this? I mean, the law system is broken. Just talking about the school system, in my personal opinion, most lawyers can't define what a woman is, so how are they going to know what an illegal is versus an illegal isn't? I'll sign up Trump. You need an extra. I have one question. No, illegal. Illegal. You know, it's like. And then depending on how they answer, move them right along. So I, I agree with you, though. I do think that when we get people out of this country, things will come back to. Prices will drop, at least in housing, and things will come back to a more functional society that we have because it's run amok right now. I want to go on record in saying that I don't know if I endorse Bo's appointment to be immigration judge. I just want to say that on the record right here. I love you as a person, dude, but I just. I don't know if I don't want to stoop that low. Leave it in the comments below, guys, whether you think I should be an immigration lawyer or not. We'll show that to the President. Hey, this guy is a comedian and he has no legal experience whatsoever. But we did get a thousand signatures saying that he should be an immigration judge, so we're going to go with that. Should be about enough. You know, speaking along the lines of immigration, whether or not the United. Obviously, the United States as a whole is better, but there are parts of it, like Oakland, California, where you might rather be in Mexico. I thought this was a hilarious story that I came across. I want to show you guys this video and get your reaction to the Mexican national soccer team got mugged in Oakland, of all places. Watch this high profile break in in Oakland. We're learning the Mexican national soccer team was robbed yesterday. Telemundo has confirmed with the team it happened in the parking lot of their downtown hotel where they're staying. The team says the thieves broke into their truck and stole balls, flags, cones, and shirts. We did reach out to Oakland police tonight, but they're not available for comment. Mexico plays Japan in a friendly match this coming Saturday at the Oakland Coliseum. Bo, I'm gonna give you a chance to either get yourself in a lot of trouble or, you know, you know, say something more appropriate. But considering the fact that a lot of the. The jerseys, it sounds like, or a lot of the team, you know, memorabilia was stolen, who do you think committed this crime? While we now know where those Mexican flags came from in downtown la. Am I right? I mean, come on. You know, my favorite thing about this article was when you read through it, you find out that somebody sk school to be there. And if I was a lawyer regarding customs enforcement here, I would deport him and his father. Get to school, kiddo. What's going on, Kristen, again, you know, this doesn't really have a ton of political ramifications. Just really interesting that a team from Mexico came to the United States and got robbed in Oakland. I don't know, what does that say about Oakland and how California does its policing of crime?
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Oh, my gosh. And what really stood out to me is, like, the police are like, well, it wasn't expensive, but that's, like, not even the point.
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It's the fact that, you know, the welcome mat in Oakland always seems to roll out. Right? It's the Raiders left, the warriors left, the A's are leaving, and now even visiting teams cannot come to town without getting robbed first. And at the same time, city leaders are bragging that ice won't be allowed at the stadium.
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I mean, yeah, the absurdity, which. Which is funny. I, too. I like the fact that you echoed the thing that they said. Well, there wasn't a lot of money, so. Oh, okay. Well, then it's fine. You're right. There wasn't a ton of. It was just some cones and some team member. It's fine then. Ridiculous. Kristen. Bow. Guys, thanks so much for joining. Really appreciate you taking the time. No, thank you.
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My pleasure.
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Thank you. Coming up next here on Turning Point, tonight got an awesome clip from Alex Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast. Remember, you could also email the show tptpusa.com anytime you want. Love seeing your emails. We'll be right back after the break. The US Electric grid is approaching a breaking point as demand soars from data centers and home energy use. Our aging infrastructure can't keep up and the Department of Energy warns that without action, blackouts could surge 100 fold by 2030. The good news? One solution is already here. Propane. It's American made, stored on site and always ready, powering homes and businesses with cleaner, reliable energy that doesn't depend on the grid or the weather. Learn more@probane.com support for today's show comes from Sonos.
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Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time. Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started Normal, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity we talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
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Do you think that's what most people struggling with migraines are dealing with is magnesium deficiency? Like, instead of popping an ibuprofen or an aspirin, if they just pop magnesium, they probably feel better. I think a lot of people are magnesium deficient. It's probably one of the most common deficiencies. It used to be really prevalent in our water, which now we know our water is stripped of everything and it used to be really prevalent in our soil, and our soil is stripped of everything. So that's probably one of the one also, it's so highly researched. So everybody knows magnesium is great. There's like multiple forms of it. So I think a lot of people are. Magnesium people are lacking minerals. That's why we're. We all feel insane and have no energy. We're just lacking any type of real nourishment and minerals. You don't really get from ultra processed foods. It's really from these super nourishing foods that come from the ground, that come from, you know, living creatures. You are so no BS ever when it comes to wellness. Like, that's what your Instagram is so great for, is obviously education and you teach people stuff, but you're also just like, I'm gonna tell it to you straight. I don't care if I burn bridges. Yeah. Which is very bold. I mean, I don't even know that I am that brave because, yeah, you could, like, really mess up connections and things like that, but you're like, I don't care. I just want to say that. I just want to, you know, tell people what it is. What I think. What do you think is the most evil or corrupt aspect of the health and wellness space? I think just the marketing in general. I mean, I've seen brands straight up lie about their marketing and not. And double down on it when they're called out on it. I've seen brands delete comments over and over again, going back on things that they said that they would never do, and then here they are doing it. So marketing in the wellness space, as somebody who is in it, and I'm trying my best to be the good Parts of the wellness space is something that I'm constantly reminding people that you can put anything on the front of a box, on the front of a bag, you can say pretty much anything you want. And if you get caught, then, yeah, you're screwed. But most people don't. You can say this cures this or does that for the most part, and you'll get away with it. We see it every day on Tick Tock. We see it every day on social, on, you know, Instagram, and people fall for it every time they think that some greens powder is going to cure their ibs, you know, and they're being told all these things are going to balance their hormones and heal themselves. And then when they're on this supplement for months and months and months and they're not feeling better and they go back to the company and they're like, hey, like, I don't feel any better from this. You promised me all these results and the company just block, delete. I don't care. We have another customer somewhere else. Yeah, I guess I see that a lot. And I also, I know that you call out a lot of people in our space that you feel like are making people feel bad. Like if they're not perfect enough when it comes to health and wellness, then they're out. And I don't know, I think that's interesting because you're, to me, I, like, I know how you eat, I know how you live. I, I know your routine and I'm like, you are so unbelievably clean and, and very intentional about what you're putting on your body and in your body, and yet you're like, stop making people have unrealistic expectations about wellness. Yeah, I think because I started, you know, I started as a college student trying to figure out like, what's good for me, what's not. And I think we always have to meet people where, where they're at in a realistic way. Like, I, there's kind of two sides of the spectrum. I feel like there's people that are everything in moderation and you can have the, you know, the alcohol every week and you can have the ultra processed protein bar like every time you have a good workout and, you know, you could keep that bowl of candy in your house and just binge on it for the, you know. So I don't think when people say everything in moderation, I don't think they're being relatable or meeting people where they're at. I think they're sabotaging them, them if somebody is telling you you can enjoy some of the worst foods moderately, they actually just hate you. Like, there is no way that that person is actually looking for your best interest. Because we wouldn't tell an alcoholic that they should have a beer every now and then. We would never do that. Meanwhile, we know that ultr processed food is addictive. Like, we have science to support that. We know that it literally lights up areas in the brain the same way that that, you know, nicotine does. Like, we know these things that smoking a cigarette and consuming alcohol are lighting up the same pathways of ultra processed food. It's very, very similar. So the fact that we continue to tell people to sabotage their health over and over again for the sake of a holiday or a weekend or a birthday, we're just continuing to allow people to destroy their health little by little, and then they never are able to make these connections about why I'm always bloated, why I've had acne for my, my, all of my adulthood, you know, why I have migraines, why my hormones are a wreck. Like, oh, I don't know, because I've been eating everything in moderation for so long and I've been told by all these professionals that that's okay and that's normal. So like, I think that sets people up to fail. I don't think that that's helpful. Yeah, when people are like, well, do you have to be perfect to be in this space? Or Alex Clark wants everybody to be perfect. I'm like, no. First of all, I just think I'm like, we're all adults here. Don't we have common sense? I mean like, I'm traveling right now and I didn't want to pack like a whole entire shampoo bottle and stuff. So like I'm using the shampoo and the in the hotel. But I did bring my own body wash and then I have my non toxic toothpaste with me. But you know, I ate at a restaurant last night. It wasn't. I only ordered real food. I got oysters and I had scallops and all that, but I don't know what they cook the scallops in. It could have been seed oil, I don't know. But like things like that, I'm like, those are the little things that obviously it's not perfection. That's unrealistic. But yeah, I mean, kind of talk to like where you feel like health and wellness influencers are setting people up to fail and like what's a reality for what imperfection in the space can look like while still being the healthiest, non toxic you can be. Yeah, I mean, I think there's levels, right. I think for many people, at least for me, I could speak on myself. When I first was, you know, I had, my hormones were all over the place. My gut was a freaking wreck. I had to get really strict with a lot of the things because I had no idea what was causing all the distress in my life. So I got really strict. I was, I wasn't even taking supplements. I took a year off of supplements because I'm like, I don't even know what to take. I don't even know if I'm taking quality stuff. Stuff. I was only consuming real food. I ditched all ultra processed food. Like anything that you find like at a gas station is not, I mean to this day I'm very strict about that. And I just really got down to the nitty gritty of like, okay, I'm going to eat basic, you know, high quality meat. I'm going to make sure I'm eating my vegetables and having my fiber and have a very balanced plate. And I really did that. And that's when I really started to see a shift and I was able to build on that, right? So then I was able to kind of test the waters with. Okay, is it, you know, is it really dairy that's causing all my problems? Because I think in the wellness space we're told like, we can't eat, we can't have dairy, we can't have, you know, whatever else. We have to be vegan, you have to be carnivore. Most people just need to eat less ultra processed junk. Like, let's start there. So I think for most people, I think if we can live a life where we're not consuming nutrient void, chemically laden foods, you're gonna feel like 80 better than the average person of America because 60 of Americans are eating mostly ultra processed foods. So I think that's the first thing that I always tell people is. And then everything else is pretty much, I feel like on you, right? I, at least for me, I eat only real food. I'm not gonna go, you know, and have Cheetos. Like, it's just not for me. Yeah. The worst thing, like the word, when people say like, do every fast food or whatever, I'm like, the closest I get to that would be Chipotle. Okay. Like I am in a pinch. Like there is nothing. Like I been filming all night and you know, that's the only restaurant that's open like and Then I'll go and I'll just get like rice and steak in a bowl and corn or whatever. And like, you know, that's better than McDonald's to me. So I do that. I think people can't fathom that once you get to that place where healing feels so good that you don't want anything to sabotage it. But not in an obsessive way, like, oh my God, I can't. Because we see that too a lot in the wellness space. And that is like true orthorexia, like because people want to throw that word around. But that's like a really, really serious diagnosis where your day to day life is disrupted because you have to live a certain way, right? Like if I came here and I go on vacation and I'm, you know, packing all my own food and I can't enjoy a dinner out with my husband, that is disrupting my way of life, right? Because I can only eat the food that I brought in this glass container and everything so perfectly. You know, that is obsessive. But I also have seen people who are in such an autoimmune flare that that is the way that they need to live, right? So it's like only you can really find that balance. But I think for me, I've drawn the line at I do not drink alcohol. I haven't consumed alcohol in four plus years and I do not consume ultra processed foods. And I'm a lot like you. Like the closest I'll get is a borderline fast food like a Chipotle, which, you know, they've improved their, you know, ingredients a lot. Non GMO besides, you know, and then I just make it myself, right? Like I try my best and I think also when I travel, I do try to travel to places that have, you know, better options and things. But we've gone on road trips where, where the only thing around is like a Starbucks or like a Panera Bread or McDonald's and Wendy's and like, what are you gonna do, you know? Do you ever crave a Baconator though? Never craved. I don't even think I've had one. I don't really crave anything actually. I mean, early days I could have downed a row of Oreos. Honestly, if someone catches me on a good day, I might, might slip one. But Oreos are my jam. But I just don't crave that anymore. Like it's not. There's always an alternative, right? Like that's how I feel. There's always an alternative, but. But you can't explain it until you've gone through it, you know, like until you've gotten to that other side. Like, I want to give people hope that if you feel like you're being consumed by ultra processed foods, like if you go 100 off them, there will come a time where you just think it's disgusting. That's how I feel. Like when people are like, do you ever just crave, like chick Fil A? I'm like, literally, no, never. A lot of it actually makes me nauseous. Not like, oh, that sounds good to me. Once you're away from it, it like, it tastes awful. Yeah, I used to every day after personal training because I'd personal train for like eight years, eight to 10 hours a day, literally.
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Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time. Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started Normaly, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of normally every Tuesday.
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Welcome back to Turning Point tonight, where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. Remember, you can get 50% off general admission tickets to America Fest, Turning Point's flagship and I think, best event of the year. Amfest.com 50% off general admission. And it's also better just to book everything now because it's always cheap. Cheaper hotels, flights, cars, if you, if you need that sort of thing. Always going to be cheaper the further out you book it. 50 off general admission too. So amfest.com best event of the year by. By far. You can also email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com we love seeing all your emails, your videos that you send us about. I'm not exaggerating across the email and social media. I think probably close to 1 million people sent me this video that we're gonna play on Woke Wednesday day. But the best way to send stuff tous is tptp USA.com Again, love seeing all of your emails there. So without further ado, it is Wednesday, which means it's Woke Wednesday. I know I say this frequently, but I really wonder what that lady is doing with her life now. I wonder where she is. I. I hope she's throwing. I just hope that is the case. Well, it's Woke Wednesday and like I said, about a million by now, probably a million and a half people have sent me this video. It is of a sitting state representative. Watch this clip. I think this was in response to the. Again the horrific shooting. Nobody's trying to make fun of that, but the, the backlash against the trans folks elicited this. Watch this.
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Trans people belong here. We need trans people.
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Trans people belong here. We need trans people. We love trans people. Trans people belong here. We need trans people.
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We love trans people.
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Trans people belong here. We need trans people. We love trans people. You matter. You matter.
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Okay, and next order of business, the representative from District 4. I. What do you do with that sort of stuff? Clearly get that lady some help. Also, the fact that she's. I. I'm fighting for you. That's the fight. I think we're gonna be fine. I think we're gonna be okay. It's gonna be easy peasy from here on out. Um, rhetorically speaking, by the way, of course, if that lady's the one making arguments on behalf of the trans folks, I think we're gonna be okay on this one. I. Yeah, I. Who. Who thinks that's a good idea. But at the same time, you're not talking to rational people who think about things rationally. You're instead talking to crazy lunatics who think that making a loud and aggressive. I don't even want to call that a speech chant. And a microphone is actually making a difference. Your anger is not an argument, Libs, if you. The sooner you learn that, the better off you're going to be. Not that I want you to be better off, but anger isn't an argument. Bottom line. Case in point. Speaking of angry, this. This young lady. And by young lady, I mean they. Them. I don't know what gender this is. I mean, I do, but I don't want to presume to know what they know because they might not have said so this young lady is mad at rent. And this. This woke Wednesday. Oh, dang. We're not gonna have a ton of time to respond to this, but watch this. This is how some people think, and they are outside of their minds.
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Rent should not exist in this day and age.
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We have houses that are empty. We could be housing everyone on the.
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Streets, but no, we have to worry about profiting off of it.
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We have a surplus of housing. We're in a complete different age from when you did have to build your own house. Everyone deserves a house, and our government has the ability to give us that, and they won't. You need to be more angry.
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Okay, first things first. Before we get into any of the housing stuff, it's funny because a little peek behind the curtain here. These videos aren't uncensored when. When we are playing them here, and then they get bleeped after the fact. And so anytime there's an F bomb drop, you see producer Glenn off camera going, okay, there one. Okay, there's one. Okay, there's one. Because the. For some reason, all the libs do is think. If they swear more, it'll make their argument more compelling, which is not the case. Case. But I guess they believe that. And then to actually respond to what she's saying, you're right. Okay, so houses just grow from the ground. We got a lot of rain this year. A lot of houses sprout. Sprouted up a surplus of houses. No. Somebody had to sacrifice or risk their capital in order to build that house. Prying it away from someone who worked hard and sacrificed to build that house seems not very nice. That doesn't seem very loving to me, young woman. Houses don't grow on trees. People sweat, blood and tears build houses along with everything else. You don't just get to commandeer it. Because you're angry. That's gonna do it for us here at Turning Point tonight. Love the outro there. We will see you tomorrow, same time, same place. Charlie Kirk is going to take us out. God bless America. The US Electric grid is approaching a breaking point. As demand soars from data centers and home energy use. Our aging infrastructure can't keep up. And the Department of Energy warns that without action, blackouts could surge 100 fold by 2030. The good news? One solution is already here. Propane. It's American made, stored on site and always ready. Powering homes and businesses with cleaner, reliable energy that doesn't depend on the grid or the weather. Learn more@probane.com support for today's show comes from Sonos. You know what makes Draft Day even better?
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Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time. Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started Normalely a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
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We don't take ourselves too seriously, but.
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We do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple.
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Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
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Foreign chemical companies are launching a coordinated campaign right now, now to secure sweeping legal immunity for chemical products in the United States. This legislate. This legislation is going to prevent Americans from holding companies accountable, the chemical companies accountable for health damages, by the way, of over 57,000 chemicals. This is exactly. This is exactly, if you remember what we did when it comes to vaccines. We gave the vaccine companies immunity. Right. So parents couldn't sue them. We are now about to do this with chemical companies in the United States if we do not all start calling our congressmen and congresswomen and saying, enough is enough. We do not support this. You better not support this.
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So what would the argument for that even be? Is that indemnification for foreign chemical companies?
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Yes. So this is. This should concern you. This is really a like, super scary foreign policy issue. So Bayer is a German company, which is a German company. They are on the hook right now currently. This is why they're pushing this so hard. They are currently on the hook for $16 billion in settlements for glyphosate. Glyphosate cancer litigation. Yes. Which is being sprayed on all our food.
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Three people that died because of brain cancer from Roundup. At least three. I'm sure almost everyone in this room does.
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They are losing court cases because of the overwhelming evidence that glyphosate is connected to non. Non Hodgkin's lymphoma. So they know this. So they, they're like, we don't want people to. People to be able to sue us anymore because we know we're making people sick. We want to be able to keep Making people sick. You have paraquat. Paraquat is another chemical we don't talk about a lot. We hear a lot about glyphosate in the MAHA circles. But you need to know about paraqu. Paraquat is another chemical manufactured by Chem China. So this is tightly connected to Parkinson's disease. And it is a pesticide that is actually banned in China. But we're allowing it to be sprayed on our crops for Americans to eat. And they. They sell it to us. And now they want illegal. They want legal immunity when we get Parkinson's from their product. You should be very concerned if you live near or on a golf course. I'm just going to tell you that right now. Now, they are doing this through federal legislation, state bills, EPA rule changes, and Supreme Court intervention. And they're aiming to shield themselves from responsibility when they cause harm to Americans that are consuming products and farmers also in their communities. So what's really scary is that this legislation is already passed now in North Dakota this year and Georgia. So if you live in Georgia or North Dakota, those states, it is now basically impossible to sue chemical manufacturers if you get sick from chemical exposure. Next, Congress has added an immunity shield into their House appropriations bill. It's called section 453. Now, this is why you should be especially pissed off. We just won. Charlie just admitted we largely just won the election due to MAHA and all of the activism that we're doing there. And it is Republican who are pushing for this. It is not the Democrats. So it is Republicans in Congress, I believe it, totally turning their back on us as Maha voters on the Maha moms. And we need to say that we are. We do not stand for this, that we have midterms coming up. This is a very, very, very scary thing that we are flirting with right before midterms. You are rocking a boat. You don't want to rock.
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So their argument must be, if I were to steal, man, it that if we don't indemnify it, then we won't be able to spray anything because we'll be sued by everybody. Is that right? I mean, again, so it's like, wait, so we're only. We're going to poison a lot of people and not. It's like a car company being like, well, you can't sue us if the airbag doesn't work.
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They literally are, like I said, they are on the line right now for billions and billions and billions in lawsuits. And they're just trying to get ahead of it so that we. They don't have to pay.
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Why would Republicans. But other than being bought and paid for, that's it. It's just a big ag thing though. Is there like a connect. Okay, so that's where we're getting. So a big ag. They love glyphosate, by the way. I talked to some people. I get so many angry emails from people that are like, glyphosate is the greatest thing ever. It's amazing. Like, you don't understand what you're talking about. What is the pro glyphosate argument? What would they.
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I mean, that we need to feed the world. We have to be able to feed the world.
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Yes, got it. Which is just not true. There, there are other ways to do this. Now, I'm not saying because I know that a lot of our friends in the ag community who are doing conventional farmers farming get very upset when we talk about this because they're like very upset. You have no idea what you're talking about. You could never do this overnight. Totally correct. Totally correct. You could not do this overnight. It is a, it is a whole process, slow rollout that we would have to do. But the point is not that we're going to ban these chemicals or anything. Nobody's even talking about that. All we're saying is that American consumers, farmers, communities, should be able to sue them if they make you sick. And.
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Yeah, go ahead.
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This interferes. This interferes with state's ability to protect their residents by overriding stronger state level consumer protection and tort laws.
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100%. I just want to interact just so just everyone understands. Forget the Maha component of this. This is crony capitalism at its finest. This is a big company that doesn't want to be able to help, be held accountable. I mean, every time we indemnify an industry, really bad behavior usually follows.
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Almost always you have to be upset about this. Not just because, oh, they're poisoning us and we won't be able to sue them. What I'm trying to get at is, yes, obviously that's extremely important, but also when we are thinking in terms of politics in midterms, is that this is in the news right now. And all of those women that I just told you came up to me at our Turning Point events and said, I would not be here if it weren't for Maha. I'm trying to figure out if I want to identify as conservative, are seeing this in the news, that we are, we are flirting with the idea of a chemical shield for these companies. And they're going, so is everything just a lie? Is everything Donald Trump told me a lie? Is everything that Congressional Republicans told me they were going to do for Maha a lie? I don't know that I want to keep voting for this. And so now, and so I am trying to get us out there to say, you know, for those that are, you know, those of us that are grandfathered into the gop, right, like we are a part of this party, we need to be saying that this isn't okay and letting our Congressional Republicans know.
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So I agree.
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You have to call your congressman or congresswoman off the hook right now and tell them to vote no on the appropriations bill as long as Section 453 is in in it. So we're telling them to take out Section 453 in the Appropriations bill. You're doing this nonstop, every single day. You're calling them daily. They're going to know who you are. They're going to know your favorite order at your favorite restaurant. That's how much you call. Okay? And then if you don't want to do that, you can just go to stop poison.org you'll get legislation updates and instructions on how to call both federal and local state legislators.
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But even if it was, think about this, everybody. So even if it wasn't poison, which it obviously is, but we're not banning it, we're just saying that you're not, not shielded from lawsuits.
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Exactly. So everyone should be on board with this. And everyone needs to be making a big, big, big fuss on social media about this so that President Trump sees it and sees that this is important to us.
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So I love that. And so in closing here, Alex, I want to do, I want to go to two things. Just can you repeat the website one more time? Because it's going to be airing out to millions of people.
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Stoppison.org stoppoison.org.
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