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Joe
This is an Iheart podcast.
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Bob
So apparently Chicago can get their crime under control. Almost 10 years ago they tried something including using federal agents and it worked. Why aren't they doing it anymore? It remains to be seen. Also, some still states are saying, hey, Covid is around and we need to start masking up. Which states do you think those are? And CBS News reporters are in total and utter panic with their new co worker coming on board. We'll talk about that and so much more here on Turning Point Tonight. Together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. This is Turning Point tonight. Now before we get into any of those, I gotta remind you, you can email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com Turning point tonight. Tptpusa.com we love seeing all of your emails and if you send us funny and hilar various videos, it makes my job just a little bit easier. In that fourth segment, uh, we four weeks into those stories in our our fantastic panel. We do have a fantastic panel with us today. Gotta talk about this. We all remember wasn't all that long ago, it was a couple days ago when President Trump yanked the Secret Service security from Kamala Harris. How dare he do that? Even though he was just reverting back to what is legally mandated with this six months and not Joe Biden's 18 months, which nobody's sure why he extended that length. I don't even think he's sure why he did that. I don't even know if he did it. But the bottom line is President Trump yanked Secret Service from Kamala Harris. Well, guess who's paying for it now? I'll give you a hint. It's not rich lib donors. It's definitely not them. And it's also not Vice President Kamala Harris. She's been living in Brentwood, which is a very, very wealthy area in Los Angeles. Actually, it's the area that O.J. simpson was living in when he killed his wife. Allegedly killed his wife and her lover. But again, Brentwood, California is where Kamala Harris has been living with her husband Doug. And again, it's not the rich donors paying for her security. It's not her. It's the taxpayers of the great city of Los Angeles. LAPD has up to 14 police officers taken off the streets away from cases, away from crime suppression to provide taxpayer funded security to the former vice president of which who I don't know how big of a threat, I don't know she has against her. Anyway, I don't even know why that's Necessarily needed. Now, again, this goes without saying, I don't want anybody to do any harm to Kamala Harris or anybody on the left side of the aisle. We should argue with our words. That's what adults do. But at the same time, why are we paying continually for Kamala Harris's security? She was also apparently offered CHP, California Highway Patrol protection, which Governor Newsom would have to sign off for. But again, the question becomes, why is she not paying for it and why is the donors not paying for it? Why are the taxpayers paying for it? Here to comment on that and so much more is host of the Ari Hoffman Show. It's Ari Hoffman and conservative political commentator Gillian Anderson King. Guys, thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time.
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Ari Hoffman
Great to be here.
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Jillian Anderson King
Thanks for having me.
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Bob
Jillian, I wanna start with you here. Why, why is it that big government Democrats always get, you know, super great treatment also at the, the, the on the hook by the taxpayers? Why are the taxpayers paying for this in any way, shape or form?
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Jillian Anderson King
I have no idea where the taxpayers should be paying for this. They shouldn't at all. Vice presidents traditionally do not get this service. But isn't it ironic the same people who are yelling at rioters in the name of defunding the police really want the police when they, when they need them. I mean, reports are showing that she had 14 LAPD with her when she to get sushi in Brentwood. To your point, that must be one heck of a California role that she needed to get to with those officers. And, but everyone knows that California is messed up. It's dirty, it's crime riddled, and they have a lack of police service. So sure, let's let 14 officers watch her down some sushi. That's definitely what the, the taxpayers need. You know, police suck unless I need it.
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Bob
Yeah, I think this is the same person that had a fund to bail people out when they were riding against the police, which you know, that you know is what it is, Ari. Okay, so here, here me out. I don't know how Kamala can't get a big lib donor to pay for her own protection. Like either they can get one who says, hey, you're going to run for president, or they can get one that says, hey, I'll pay for your security if you promise to not run for president again. I feel like either way you can find somebody. Why can't, why can't she do what everybody else does and pay for it herself?
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Ari Hoffman
Well, because she maxed out her big donors. She blew through billions of dollars to lose an election and nobody has faith anymore. The only people she needs protection from is the Democratic establishment, who probably wants to kill her for losing so bad and losing to Donald Trump. Or maybe she needs protection from Doug Emhoff. Apparently, he was enjoying, allegedly, the perks of being on the campaign trail with her. But really, when you look at Los Angeles, the reason they probably want to give her security is because can you imagine if Kamala Harris, God forbid, got mugged in Los Angeles like a normal Angele, you know, all of a sudden, that page story and Gavin Newsom wants to run for president. So I think what this is really about is protecting Gavin Newsom. Because can you imagine the headlines of something happened to Kamala Harris while walking down the street of Los Angeles like any normal person who lives there?
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Bob
That. No, that is a very, very good point. And to your point of, well, Doug can protect her. I don't know if Doug can protect her from a strong breeze, let alone an assailant. So maybe, yeah, maybe. I guess it is necessary. Speaking of. Speaking of areas that are not great, Ari, I thought this was really interesting. In Seattle, they are closing temporarily, three different parks around the city because I quote, and I want to quote here, there have been bouts of negative park activity, so they will continue to stay closed. And interestingly enough, there's a mayoral race going on in Seattle, and these parks are going to be closed for 60 days. In other words, the lead up to the mayor's race. Why do you think Seattle has made the choice to close these parks? And what do you think those negative activities might be?
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Ari Hoffman
So little background for you. Seattle Mayor Bruce Harrell ran as a moderate law and order candidate last time, and he has completely failed to bring law and order or any moderation. And he spent the last year trying to be a progressive because he's being challenged by somebody who's even more left than him. So normally before an election, what they start doing is they start cleaning up all the homeless encampments, especially when everybody's coming in for the cruises and the hikes and everything else. They didn't do that this year. So basically, over the summer, they let crime get completely out of control, more so than normal. Yet a shooting on the brand new waterfront they just opened six days after they opened it. So Bruce Harrell has let the city completely go to garbage. So now the only thing they can do because it's too late to fix anything, because the election's right around the corner, too late to clean anything up. All they can do now is Say we're just gonna close these parks and kinda try and shove the homeless people out of the way so people forget they're there until the election time. And this has been his M.O. it's just a giant game of whack a mole of send them all over the city so people don't see them. That has been what he has done his entire time in office. I think he likes the idea of being mayor, not actually doing any of the stuff that a mayor is. Requ.
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Bob
You know, I think you're making the assumption there that the negative activity is. Is homelessness. I guess I thought it was kids falling off the monkey bars and getting boo boos. Jillian, you know, I guess do now zoom out, right? 30,000ft.
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Ari Hoffman
Right.
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Bob
We can all see what's going on in Seattle. Do you think this type of stuff has any effect on voters and how they look at how their police, their city is being policed and the safety in their communities? And the obvious move to try and gloss over some of the very, very bad parts of major cities like Seattle in.
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Jillian Anderson King
I think you're trying to compare Seattle with other cities with normal people living in them. Seattle has been so far gone that up is down and down is up and the sky is red. And they believe it. Like I, I mean, I feel like that city is just a lost cause. I mean, like, I think we just build a fence around it and like ship it, like let it do its own thing at this point. And I, you know, I wouldn't be surprised they went with the more leftists. A leftist person, because how dare you push. Right now the rhetoric of the left is how dare you push homelessness out of the tents, off the streets. How dare you solve that? How dare you solve crime. I think the left is just doubling down on that recently in all major cities. So I wouldn't be surprised if they did not want it cleaned up. They were angry these parks were being shut down because Seattle is so backwards. So in a normal situation you would think law and order. But with those constituents, I think they go with the liberal mayor.
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Bob
Yeah, you know, we'll all find out together. I personally. Ari, I'll let you out of the fence if we do happen to get the legislation passed to fence Seattle.
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Ari Hoffman
What are you trapping me here for? I promise to live here, guys. You want to have all these crazy stories if not for me, don't leave me alone here.
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Jillian Anderson King
Come on, we'll get you something special. A little pedestal to get out of the fence.
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Bob
Yes, you have a. You have a fence Exemption. But, Jillian, I liked what you said about normal, right? Normal people look at this and go, yeah, that. That's nuts. Normal people also look at states like California where there are quote unquote, health officials saying, well, Covid is about, it's time to mask up. You got to get your KN95 mask on or else you're going to be killing grandma or whatever the things that they've said. You know, Jillian, I feel like health officials around the country during COVID dragged their credibility out behind the barn and shot it in the head. Do you think anybody is listening to these people anymore?
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Jillian Anderson King
I just feel like this is a message. I didn't just hear this a few months ago and then a few months before that. I feel like this is a constant with California. They're bringing up this health emergency. You need to push back. Max, we haven't been on board with them for a long time. We kind of found out as a country. I thought that a lot of these myths were debunked about how masks even worked. And I'll never Forget in late 2021, Gavin News and saying those states who do not force vaccines, who do not force mask mandates, will pay for it. And here in my state of Florida, we had a way lower death count than the state of California did. We do not abide with those same policies. Yet those policies, here we are in 2025, he's still pushing them. I don't think that anyone's buying it.
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Bob
Yeah, I don't think so either. Ari. You know, this is not necessary to be fair. There haven't been any statew. This has been like local county officials, which, you know, who knows, can get appointed to those seats. It might just be anybody. That's why there are maybe a little bit more Looney Tunes. But if there were a statewide person, do you think Gavin, who is clearly running for president in attempt to kind of get that more moderate vote, would fire that person? Or do you think he'd play into it again so long as the mask weren't required at the French Laundry?
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Ari Hoffman
I think what he'll. I think what he'll do is make sure that person still has a position because he wants to be dictator again afterwards. Let's not forget only to Governor Jay Inslee of Washington, who had emergency powers for 975 days. I don't know about you guys. The only masks I see these days is always the driver in front of me who's driving a Prius really, really slow that I'm trying to get around. That's the person driving alone in the car wearing a mask when you pass them every single time. What Gavin Newsom is trying to do, you're going to see this big push that he's doing for safety, his podcast, everything else. He can't run on his record. It's an absolute disaster. So what he's going to do is try and make California look like a utopia through the election that he's running for, for president, which he's not running for, but we all know he's running for. So that way he could try and con some people. But his entire tenure as governor of California has been a colossal disaster. He can't run on his record. So he's going to try and pull a bait and switch and he's going to keep those people around so he can impose his real agenda afterward.
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Bob
Yeah, I honestly, and this might be a spicy take, I can't wait for him to run for president because he will lose 4, 48 states and I will just be giddy with joy and doing his dumb little hand motions. Ari and Jillian will be back after the break to discuss the conniption happening at CBS over their brand new hire. And Chicago apparently tried to use federal agents to keep the city safe and it worked. Why did they stop doing it? All that more coming up after the break. Don't go away. We'll be right back.
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Bob
Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. Remember, you can email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com we love seeing all your emails, all your memes, all the funny stuff that you send. Tptpusa.com let's check in with Turning Point's White House correspondent Monica Page at the White House. Monica, lots going on as, as, as usual, including some, some big investments in energy.
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Monica Page
What's, what's, yeah, Hitachi, which has been in Virginia, our neighboring state here in Washington, D.C. if you consider D.C. a state which it is not, but Virginia. The DMV area has been around for about 50 years and this investment is massive. It's nearly $500 million of an investment and $1 billion into the electrical grid expansion. Now this is a big deal because this is going to create about 825 new jobs and really kind of helps Virginia have this manufacturing renaissance that it was really missing out on over the last couple of years. This is also huge for the pharmaceutical and heavy manufacturing that we've also seen in Virginia. This is just going to add to not only just a manufacturing boom and investment boom, but also for our national security. This is going to expand our power grids, allow us to compete with China and just keep us safer overall. In the grand scheme of things. It's going to be a cornerstone of our competition with China and it's just going to be critical for our infrastructure overall as a nation.
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Bob
You know, at the risk of going on to a crazy different tangent of like, yeah, the, the grid needs to get updated to the point where China can't hack into it and shut off power to the entire east Coast. I hope that some of that is built into this new investment which would be great for American infrastructure overall. You know what also is great for the American people is throwing, throwing all the illegals out of the country. And part of that process has been emboldened yet again in another alliteration lockup. What is, what's the new place?
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Monica Page
Monica, Joe, Bobby were the king of creative transitions, I will tell you that much. That was. I did find that very impressive once again, just like yesterday's. But yeah, this is the Louisiana lockup. Joe Bob, this is actually pretty cute. It's going to be the Angola prison in Louisiana which is the largest maximum security prison for in the country. It's actually going to be within an unused part of the prison. It's going to hold about 416 beds and there's been about 51 more than 50 probably at this point of illegal aliens that have already been in there so far. So this is only looking to grow even more, add to just adding even more beds, of course, funded by the one big beautiful bill that was passed just this past fourth of July, which is massive and just adds to keeping our nation safe. We know that the latest D.C. crime numbers also include racking up some illegal aliens here in D.C. as well. So it's not just crime within our own country. You're also cracking down on illegal alien crime as well. So this is huge. I know the governor of Louisiana Jeff Landry has been very excited to work with this administration in the creation of the Louisiana lockup and many more things to come as well because I think the president also teased ahead that they're looking to maybe send some National Guard forces into Louisiana and some of those crime ridden cities there as well to clean up that state. So there will be much more to come, I'm assuming throughout the entire country.
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Bob
Yeah, that's going to be fascinating to look at. Again, I love the naming of these, the alliteration that constantly goes with the alligator. Alcatraz, Louisiana. Lockdown, lockup, whatever it's called, you know, fun, always fun. Monica Bay, Turning Points White House correspondent, thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time. We'll see you tomorrow.
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Monica Page
Thanks, Joe.
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Bob
Bob, thank you. Now there's a lot of talk about whether the National Guard should go into the bloody streets of Chicago and try to get crime down. I mean, God forbid we try and keep crime down in this country. Well, turns out about 10 years ago in 2016, for one weekend Chicago tried just that. They sent in extra pd, they sent in ATF agents and US Marshals to flood the three most dangerous neighborhoods. And in Chicago, and it worked throughout the entire, those entire areas, there was only one shooting and the crime in the city dropped by 41%. Why are they not doing that anymore? Let's bring back our panel, Ari and Jillian. Guys, one of the prosecutors, according to the New York Post who had this article from that time period said, yeah, it worked great. It worked flawlessly. The reason we didn't want to do it was because it made the city leaders look bad. And it seems like like that thought process has traversed time into the modern age where, hey, we can't bring in the federal, the Fed, the National Guard because that would prove that you can get this crime problem under control. And that would obviously make us look bad because why weren't you doing it in the first place? Jillian I, I, I, I, I don't know what, what, what can you do about Chicago, which again has tried this. It's worked and well. They don't want to do it specifically for political reasons. What can you say about that?
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Jillian Anderson King
I mean, their TDS is so bad in Chicago and in all the state of Illinois, actually, that they would rather have crime just run rampantly across their major cities than actually let someone do something about it. I mean, they can talk out of both sides of their mouth they want. But what they can't ignore is the progress, the successful progress that Trump administration has made in the city of D.C. we know that like crime is at an all time low. Homicides, right? Zero carjackings, way down. It is working. The people there love it. And I cannot imagine the people of Chicago, the citizens of Chicago would not love a safer area. Chicago's murder toll has now surpassed US deaths more than the Iraq war and then the Iraq war, which is crazy to me. Their homicide per capita rate is three times higher than Los Angeles and five times higher than New York. And if you didn't hear J.D. pritzker say this, the governor of the state, he they one asked, hey, you let your family go through Chicago at night? He said something along the lines of, well, all big cities have crime. You know, like it's normal. No, no. Why, why are we adjusting our level of normal to be one where a city has 40 or 54 shootings in one Labor Day weekend? Why is that normal? That should not be the normal. And I hope to God that Trump comes in and save the lives of these young kids on the streets who are getting shot and dying.
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Bob
Yeah, I didn't hear that from JB Pritzker. Probably cuz he has a big piece of cake in his mouth while he's trying to spit it out. But yeah, I guess I'll go back and watch it again and see if I can hear him say that. Ari, even libs now. Like I think I watched Morning Joe Scarborough say, hey, you guys should be asking for federal help. This is a terrible situation you've got going on in Chicago. Do you think there might be some amount of overwhelming like this sane libs versus the crazy TDS libs to actually, you know, kind of flip the script a little bit?
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Ari Hoffman
Yes and no. Because at the end of the day they'll still vote for anybody who has a D next to their name, as we found out time again, unfortunately. But here's something else. What the DC experiment, for lack of a better word, has shown us is that being a crime ridden homeless utopia of drug addicts that are funded by the taxpayers is a choice. They have decided to bring all this chaos to their streets because they could say, if you give us more tax money, we can clean it up. Oh, if you just help us get rid of the guns, we can clean it up. Oh, we just need affordable housing and we can clean it up. All of this is just a grift to get more money from the taxpayers. And it's working. It's working so well. As a matter of fact, Bozeman, Montana is now having homeless problems. Why? Because they Imported the problem because they saw how much money you can get by doing this kind of stuff. Seattle, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, San Francisco, they have mastered it, absolutely mastered it. And now the small cities are saying, why don't we do the same thing? That's why you're seeing the spread so rampantly. And you can now tell that this was a choice by these cities based on what we're seeing in Washington D.C. that's really interesting.
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Bob
It's either woke crazy lunacy or kind of like these slithering politicians trying to work their way into more revenue. You know what is definitely woke insanity is what's going on over at cbs, which I thought this was really interesting. So Paramount, who owns cbs, has agreed to buy the Free Press. And I recognize we're reporting on news, but I do think this is fascinating considering the culture in the newsroom over at cbs. They're gonna buy the Free Press, which is Barry Weiss's operation for $200 million. And Barry Weiss is going to get a seat at the head of the, the CBS News division. Now the reason this is interesting is because the CBS newsroom is apparently. Let me, let me get the, the verbiage correctly. CBS News staffers, staffers are apoplectic over Barry Weiss's eminent arrival. Barry Weiss, you, you can agree with her, you can disagree with her on a lot of different things. She's a fervent defender of Western society. And I don't believe that she's lying to me. Ari, why is somebody like that who probably leans to the left on a bunch of different issues, such a thing threat to CBS and their, their definitely non biased news reporting over there.
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Ari Hoffman
Let's remember that Barry Weiss used to be one of the editors over at the New York Times. Yeah, and left because they got too insane even for her. She started her website to be all kinds of views to say we're going to have people from the left and people from the right. But she is very much a liberal. She defends classic Western values, as you said. And a lot of the points of contention actually appear to be that she supports Israel. Oh no. Supporting the democracy in the Middle east as opposed to a terrorist organization. So CBS right now, they've had loss after loss after loss. They got busted editing footage. They have news problems all the time. God forbid they bring in an organization as successful as the Free Press that actually does the news that people actually want to watch and read and listen to. But this shows the bias of their own CBS newsroom. They don't want that. They want their political partisanship. They want their talking points and they don't want anybody in there because apparently Barry Weiss is left enough for them. So here, Paramount, CBS is making a good strategic move and they don't want it because they want to keep doing things the way they've done, which have been a colossal failure and lost millions, if not billions of dollars at this point for the company.
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Bob
Yeah, it's, I'm, I'm super fascinated to see how that pans out, Jillian, to kind of like go in like the, the, the weeds of this anytime. I think cbs, I think Stephen Colbert is leaving. I'm super curious if he actually lasts the rest of his contract or if something like this gets him to resign to make a point, do you think? And again, I recognize this is like a single individual. Do you think Stephen, Stephen Colbert will, at some point, in order to make a political point of his choosing, will just storm out of the office and resign knowing that he's not going to be, he's a, his show's going to be canceled anyway.
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Jillian Anderson King
I think with the paycheck that he's getting, he should totally ride it out because he can ride it out with no guardrail, say whatever he want till he does get, you know, until he's off air and he's going to make all the money in the world and make more money when he starts his own podcast or spinoff or whatever it is. But I mean, all these points are great. I'm just surprised after, you know, bad edit after bad edit, CBS getting busted. To your point, they still even have, you know, a pathway to do new. Like that card should have been revoked a while ago and maybe, maybe they wouldn't get lawsuits against them when they're meddling in elections. This is a very, very smart move for them.
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Bob
Yeah. I'd like to apologize to you and the viewers for not putting air quotes around CBS News division. So I'll keep it, I'll keep that in mind to do that going forward. Ari, Jillian, guys, thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time. Thank you. Coming up next here on Turning Point tonight, got an awesome clip from Alex Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast. You can also email the show tpt@tpusa.com you can email whether you agree with everything that was just said or you're wrong. Doesn't matter. We love seeing your emails. TBT tpusa.com don't go away. We'll be right back after the break.
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Interviewer
What are some of your hottest takes right now? On why Americans cannot get healthy because.
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Joe
Everyone thinks they have a caffeine deficiency. And a caffeine deficiency literally does not exist. We are literally fueling ourselves with so much caffeine. Like you're starting your day with a cup of coffee that's poured with like 14 pumps of syrup. And that's what people think is getting them through the day. And it's all just false energy. People are just depleted.
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Interviewer
Do we need to be having something else first thing in the morning?
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Joe
A meal? Like that's what actually fuels people in the morning. Like we were just literally thinking that just consuming so much caffeine, like first thing in the morning, like America literally runs on Duncan. You know, like that is, that is the slogan. You know, grosses me out.
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Interviewer
Those videos that Bobby Flav City or whatever Bobby Parrish does.
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Joe
Oh yeah.
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Interviewer
And it's just, he shows like how much sugar is in the whole thing is just sugar.
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Joe
Yeah.
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Interviewer
And like a teeny tiny smidge of water. It's basically a cup of all sugar.
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Joe
Yeah. And everybody's drinking energy drinks. And everybody's. Yeah, because if it's not that, everyone's like, oh well, I don't really drink coffee. And then they're downing like four or five energy drinks a day or like even one. Really. Like if you feel like you need energy drinks or just any sort of caffeine and some energy drinks can have 250 milligrams of caffeine. That's way more than a cup of an average cup of coffee that you can make at home, which is about like 80 to 90 milligrams.
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Interviewer
What is wrong with energy drinks?
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Joe
A lot of things. I mean, the first thing is you're giving yourself a false sense of energy by just like spiking your cortisol. So the first thing that you do when you wake up and you just, you're supposed to actually gradually increase your cortisol as you wake up. So that's why you're not going to wake up like bright eyed and bushy tailed. Like it should be like a very slow nervous system reset as you wake up. So people want to prematurely spike that and then it's going to cause a crash later on in the day. That's just always what happens. So people are dreading their lives by 12 o' clock and then they need either another cup of coffee or they try to switch it up and they do an energy drink which is much stronger. And the second thing is the ingredients in them are absolutely horrific. It's almost like drinking A soda or it's really soda without, like, added caffeine. So you have brands that will add artificial sweeteners like Sucralose and Ace K, and they'll act like this is just so gut friendly and good for you. And it's. It's the best way to get energy in the middle of the day. When in reality, we're actually increasing people's cravings and we're completely ruining their gut microbiome.
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Interviewer
So it's actually possible that energy drinks could be making you fat.
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Joe
That in a weird way. Yeah.
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Interviewer
Because it's increasing your cravings and needing other things.
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Joe
Yeah. I mean, anything. For me, my real hot take is that any brand that is claiming it's a wellness brand should not have any type of artificial sweeteners in their products at all. Yeah, I would agree with you. Yeah. But you have brands. For example, there's a huge brand right now that has a very popular quote unquote wellness brand with a very popular quote unquote podcast. And they have been claiming for years that they're a wellness brand. It's splattered all over their website. It literally says, join the wellness club, and this is your wellness stack and wellness this and wellness that. And almost all of their products are ladened with artificial sweeteners. And really, people are being lied to.
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Interviewer
And nobody calls them out on this.
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Joe
Well, I did, and I got severely punished for it.
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Interviewer
What do you mean, severely punished?
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Joe
So there was a. There was a situation where the. I. You know, I've been following this brand for a while because it's always brought up. I've been doing product reviews for six years now. So people always send me brands and they'll say, hey, is this brand really clean? And most of the time I'm like, no, because most things that are marketed as clean usually aren't. So this was one brand that I kept seeing over and over again. Because of course, with a wellness podcast and you have all these big names in the wellness industry, you're going to assume that this person knows what they're talking about and this person knows what they're doing. Right. Like, that's just good marketing. Right. But unfortunately, if you look a little deeper, there was a situation where on this podcast, they had someone show up on the podcast and the interviewer asked, what is the worst ingredient that you can find in a product? And he went on to say, titanium dioxide, which, yeah, it's. Titanium dioxide is a colorant. It's white. It's like how you whiten products. So it's in a lot of supplements. It's a lot of capsules, like, anything that's like pressed chicken nuggets, sometimes chicken nuggets. And in this case, it was in a protein bar. And this brand that was doing the interview had it in their protein bar that just launched that day.
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Dr. Larry Arn
What?
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Joe
And meanwhile, they're interviewing this person, like, this is the worst ingredient that you could have in any product. So all I did was I screen recorded the podcast and then just put up the ingredients of the protein bar that just launched, pointed to it, and I said, am I missing something? And when I tell you I've never seen a product get taken off a website so quickly, like ghost. Nothing was said. There was no statement there. Nothing was addressed. Anybody that saw my video, because I had, like, almost like 2 million views on that video, everybody was being blocked from the comment section. So if you were talking about it, you were just being deleted and blocked. So that was the first situation where I was like, this brand.
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Interviewer
So they pulled the product, though.
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Joe
They pulled the product at that moment. So they're. But without a trick, they didn't reach.
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Interviewer
Out to you be like, hey, you know what? Thanks so much for bringing this attention. You're totally right. This was a total oversight on our, you know, on our part, and we are making things right so that you could then post.
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Bob
Hey, hey.
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Interviewer
The brand reached out to me. They are admitted. Like, we made a huge mistake. I don't know how this slipped through the cracks. We're redoing it. Nothing. It was just silence.
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Joe
Silence. Yeah, it was just silently pulled and it. I don't even think it's ever come back. I don't think. Yeah, so that was like the first, like, weirdness. The second weirdness, which I think is even worse in my opinion. But the second situation was they launched an energy drink and they were touting that it's gut healthy, it has apple cider vinegar, and it's just good for your gut. Like the first of its kind energy drink. Right. So they went on their podcast to explain, you know, how they created the energy drink, all the amazing things. And they were. They brought up a study about why they were. Because people were asking, why are you guys using sucralose, which is an artificial sweetener in a. In your energy drink? Like, I thought you were a wellness brand. Right. Because a lot of people share the same sentiment as me. As, you know, wellness brands shouldn't have anything artificial. Right. I feel like that's pretty baseline. So they were kind of addressing why they chose Sucralose. And they. You. They decided to use the comparison like. Well, we chose sucralose because we wouldn't want to choose acesulfame potassium, which is kind of like a sucralose sister. Right. It's like another artificial sweetener. And they said that Ace K is much worse and that they stand on the fact that they would not use that artificial sweetener, and that's why they chose sucralose. So what I did was I screen recorded that part of the podcast and I went on and posted all the other products on their website that contain acesulfame potassium, even though they just claim that that is the much worse artificial sweetener. And they would stand on the fact that they don't contain that, they wouldn't use that ingredient. But it was already in other products that they. That they were using, just not this current one. So what happened was they pulled that part, that section of the podcast out of the episode and they kept the rest of the podcast and they got my video with now millions of views taken down for copyright infringement because I somehow was able to get video content that wasn't public anymore.
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Interviewer
Diabolical. And so then did they. Those products were still available.
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Joe
They're still available today.
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Interviewer
Okay, do. I'm just, I'm trying to give benefit of the doubt. Is it possible that maybe there is a, you know, separate people in this company who are putting the ingredients together to make the products and then you've got the owners who are just kind of like public figures and they just don't really know what's going on. And so there's miscommunication where the owners like, oh, I don't want that ingredient. And then there are other people putting it in. They just don't know. And, and if so, do you feel like that's negligence, like, it's your product, you should know about the ingredients?
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Joe
Yeah, I think there's a lot of things because. Right. It's not just about, you know, not knowing what's in your product. Right. Like, that's. I feel like you should. Like, even for my own brand, I have over 600 products. I know, like, how these products are made. Like, I look at them and you. They, like most brands only have like two or three. Right. So I think the first thing is that most brands, if you're going to be the face of a company and you're going to tout that you are the founder and this is what you do, you should know your products and you should at least know how they're Sweetened. I feel like that's a pretty common thing, that you should know what's being used. And clearly they do, because you're able to do a whole podcast episode and bring studies, right, that you know what these ingredients are to an extent. On top of that, you know, sucralose alone has been found to alter the gut microbiome. So touting that an energy drink with this ingredient is gut healthy doesn't really feel accurate to me. And the second part is that it's also recently been found to potentially increase people's cravings. So if you're trying to be on a gut health journey and you're trying to, you know, new wellness brand, and you're trying to, you know, fix your calories and fix your diet, and you're drinking this energy drink every single day, and now your gut is worse, may feel worse, or, you know, your cravings are increasing, you're gonna be super confused. So, like, that's the first aspect of it is, you know, the research behind why the wellness space doesn't use these ingredients. And the second part, too, is kind of like, to your point, yeah, maybe there are people in the company that don't reflect the same values maybe as the people at the face of the company. But I think that also comes down to, at the end of the day, how the customers are receiving it. Because to me, I would not want a company that feels like they have to hide the reasonings that they're doing things.
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Interviewer
Yeah, I feel like that's an integrity issue.
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Joe
Yeah, it's big integrity. And especially the wellness space is already filled with so much junk.
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Charlie Kirk
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Bob
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Joe
What would you say to folks who think that they're being reasonable by saying.
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Monica Page
Why can't children just wait till they're 18?
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J
Adolescence is hard and puberty is hard. What if you're going through the wrong puberty? What if you inside feel that you are female, but now you're going through a male puberty?
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Joe
The argument is, well, they're too young to know.
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J
I want to make it clear that for prepubertal children, there are no medical procedures done. The standard of care allows them to explore that with therapy. Well, gender affirming care is medical care. Gender affirming care is mental health care. Gender affirming care is literally suicide prevention care.
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Bob
That's a, that's an insane person's take. And I just wanted to play that too, again, remind everyone as we're just seeing rhetorical grenades thrown at RFK Jr. Especially as he's testifying. There's also a concerted effort, by the way, by Libs, over the last like two weeks leading up. They know his testimony is on the calendar. So Senator Sanders wrote an opinion piece in the New York Times saying He must resign. Schumer got on board. It's.
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Joe
It's.
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Bob
It's all coordinated by them. But in that whole process, as we're seeing them berate, RFK Jr. Just wanted to remind everybody what the department was like not all that long ago. And I'm. I know. You know, but just fascinating there to see old Richard saying the things that he's saying Of. Okay, well, I mean, to make one argument on the things that he says. Well, it's not happening at that. Okay. If it's not happening, why are you so mad that we're trying to make it illegal? Right. If it's. If it's not happening, shouldn't it be okay that it's not allowed to happen? Unless, of course, it is happening? And that's why you actually don't want it to be illegal, which would be a whole different other argument and conversation in and of itself. In the line of the whole trans Delusion thing. I thought this video was funny because I thought it was serious the first time I watched it. Then. Then it, you know, you pass five seconds, you're like, oh, they're making a joke. I love seeing stuff like this because. Well, I'll explain why afterward. Watch this clip. Definitely a skit. Definitely planned. Definitely not real, but it illuminates a real point. Check this out.
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Dr. Larry Arn
I think this is like a woman's only song. Yeah.
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Bob
Yeah. Thank God.
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Dr. Larry Arn
Yeah.
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Bob
Like at the very beginning, she's like, I think this is a woman's only sauna. And you pan. I'm like, oh, no, this is gonna be bad. And they're like, okay. They're clearly joking. They're clearly all friends. The reason why I think that this is so important is because the. The truth will win the day through humor. And the devil can't stand to be mocked. I think, oh, my gosh. Thomas Moore said that if you know his act, great part of the whole British taking, tearing down the monarchy. You don't have to go into the history of that. But the words are such. You can't. Evil can't stand to be mocked relentlessly. So that's part of what we have to do as Americans, especially when fighting the lunacy of the left. That's gonna do it for us here at Turning Point tonight. Charlie's gonna take us out. We will see you tomorrow, same time, same place. God bless America.
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Charlie Kirk
Okay, everybody. We are here with one of my mentors and teachers, Dr. Larry Arn.
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Dr. Larry Arn
Proud to be here with such a fine student.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, thank you. And I take learning seriously. Hillsdale College. I say it every day on this program. It is America's greatest college.
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Dr. Larry Arn
Yeah, well, that could almost be damning with faint praise, but it. But it is very good and it has a very powerful sense of itself. It knows what it is for 180 years. And everybody there is committed to that. That's why it's great.
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Charlie Kirk
It's great for many reasons also thanks to your leadership. But speak about the. Is it the bylaws or. The constitution of the college is rather short. It's not a big administrative document.
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Dr. Larry Arn
No, it's from 1844. The people who started Hillsdale College were preachers on the frontier from New England, and they were classically educated. You had to know Latin and Greek to enter the college in 1844. And they were patriotic, learned Americans. So the first the document begins, the denomination of Christians known as Free Will Baptists, along with other friends of education, grateful to God for the prevalence in the land of civil and religious freedom. See an intelligent piety, believing sound learning is necessary to preserve these hereby endow. So we exist to provide sound learning in support of civil and religious freedom, which is America's gift to the world, by the way, and God's gift to America and America's gift to the world and intelligent piety. Those are the purposes of Hillsville College.
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Charlie Kirk
What makes your college different than just the everyday college? What if you were to walk around Hillsdale, which I have. I sense it, I feel it. How do you do this in practice differently?
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Dr. Larry Arn
Well, it. First of all, it's not part of the national maw of a system today. We don't take the money from the government, which money carries several hundred pages of rules that are impenetrable and difficult to even follow, even understand. So we don't have that. And then what that liberates us to do is to form a college. It's a word that means partnership. And so the reason Hillsdale gets on and proceeds is because to come to Hillsdale College in any capacity, you must make a commitment to the founding mission of the college. You must believe, you must agree that the college has a right to pursue the mission and you will help. It doesn't mean you can't argue with it. You can argue about anything at Hillsdale College, but you agree that the institution is formed for these purposes and that is not to be obstructed. And so that means that we, you know, the first line of Aristotle's politics is, every community is formed for the sake of some good. Right. Well, we have a Good. That we're formed for and we follow it. And that means we can cooperate, we can be a college. And you know, it's, it's, you know, college is a certain kind of thing, a very beautiful kind of thing. And it's not for everybody, but for people who are prepared to suffer to learn the best things, it's great. You, you are such a person, by the way. I've discovered it's the reason I get on with you that, you know, you know, it takes work. Yes. You have to change your mental weather. You have to forget about yourself to learn the best things. You have to. Now I'm going to read this book and the question on my mind is not what do I think about it yet? The question on my mind is not do I agree with it yet. The question is, what does this say and what does it mean? And then that's first. And then after that, is it true? Is it good? So that's college, right? And you learn to do that. You learn to do that in the humanities and in the natural sciences. And it's a wonderful activity and it's difficult.
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Charlie Kirk
What is education?
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Dr. Larry Arn
It comes from a Latin word that means to lead forth, and that means education is the process of our helping the young go forward in the way that they are made to go. The Bible says train up the child in the ways he's meant to go. Right.
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Charlie Kirk
And he will not forget.
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Dr. Larry Arn
That's what it means. And you know, you learn where freedom, guys. You and me. And that the truth of human freedom is profoundly revealed in college, in the daily operations, in every class by this fact. You can't learn for them. You can only help them. They have to want to. And so, you know, the first test when we, you know, take every human achievement like you have built, Turning Point, I've walked around it today for the first time. It's very impressive. Thank you. And it is the product of two things that are the cause of every human achievement. You are able and you are willing and you urgently want to do it. And you can do it. And this is your thing right now, everybody I've met here and some dozens are also willing and able. Yes, everybody's a volunteer. That's why it works.
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Charlie Kirk
So now that we've defined what education is and we could talk at length about how incredible Hillsdale is, let's talk about the Department of Education. Should that even exist?
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Dr. Larry Arn
No, it's a bad idea.
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Charlie Kirk
Why?
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Dr. Larry Arn
Well, first of all, there are many reasons, but the first starts with the nature of education. Now, I'll start with the constitutional reason first, because it's actually very important, but it's not the most important. The Constitution of the United States list 17 things, if I remember the number of paragraphs. Right. That the federal government may pursue in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. And education is not among them.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, it says general welfare. That's what they're always. But sorry, go ahead.
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Dr. Larry Arn
Well, not there. It doesn't. Well, it does actually, at the beginning of Article 1, Section 8. But if the general welfare clause meant that, then the rest of Article 168 would be redundant. Right. So yet in the summer that they were writing the Constitution of the United States, they were passing the Northwest Ordinance, which is one of the four organic laws of the United States, and it gave 164 of the Western lands in the Northwest Territory reserved for only one public purpose, education in each township. Now, that meant that the federal government and the biggest asset it ever owned supported education through the states. That's the constitutional arrangement.
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Joe
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