TURNING POINT TONIGHT, WITH JOBOB, SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2025

Summary

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Real America’s Voice – Turning Point Tonight with Joe Bob (September 5th, 2025)

Brief Overview

This episode of Turning Point Tonight focuses on recent developments emblematic of the show’s mission: to analyze current events through a conservative lens, interrogate federal spending, reassert American cultural values, and critique what the hosts view as leftist overreach in media, immigration, law enforcement, and public policy. Featuring host Joe Bob, producer Glenn Hendrickson, and guest commentator Hannah Faulkner, the episode covers the defunding of public broadcasting, immigration enforcement at a Hyundai facility, the cultural implications of Arabic police badges, the Trump administration's "no tax on tips" initiative, and debates about the purpose and use of law enforcement.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Defunding PBS and Public Broadcasting (00:13–07:19)

• Joe Bob opens with scrutiny of PBS and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, focusing on large salaries, perceived left-wing bias, and the Trump administration's decision to cut federal funding.
  • “The Corporation for Public Broadcasting was the kind of umbrella term that they divvied out all the money. Well, they were getting 500 million, half a billion dollars from US taxpayers... PBS specifically was getting about $267 million.” (01:07, Joe Bob)
  • CEO’s salary ($1.2 million/year) and average salaries ($150,000/year) highlighted as evidence of waste.
  • Critique of PBS and children’s content “indoctrinating” (Sesame Street referenced as example).
  • Hannah Faulkner: “Not only are hardworking taxpayer dollars going to these news outlets who have a very strategic goal of indoctrinating and just pushing very specific narratives... but it is absolute insanity that it was that high.” (04:58)
  • Glenn Hendrickson: Advocates for balanced news and makes the case that PBS no longer serves its public mission, arguing, “No private company that does what they do could survive in the market. And I think it’s about time that they have to fight for their own in the market.” (06:20)

2. Immigration Enforcement at Hyundai Plant (07:19–11:57)

• Discussion turns to ICE raid at a Georgia Hyundai facility detaining 475 alleged undocumented workers—more than a third of the plant's staff.
• Hannah Faulkner calls for strict deportations, regardless of length of stay, citing the need to reclaim American identity and re-evaluate eligibility for citizenship:
  • “Just because you’ve been here for three, four decades illegally, that does not make you an American citizen. So we’re almost going to have to start over from scratch, which is really unfortunate.” (08:39)
• Glenn notes the perverse incentives and workplace exploitation enabled by illegal labor:
  • “They rely on skipping out and saving a buck on the backs of the workers in the fields... Now the employer can get away with doing things that are bad to people just in general, regardless of legal status.” (10:21)
• Joe Bob: “Not enforcing the law not only hurts American citizens, but it hurts the people that come to this country thinking, oh, this everything's gonna be hunky dory. Okay, well, now you’ve just upended their lives as well.” (11:57)

3. Update from the White House & Military Rebranding (14:00–17:38)

• Monica Page (White House correspondent) reports on the Biden/Trump (contextually ambiguous, possibly Trump) administration's focus on rebranding the Department of Defense to "Department of War" and fostering “warrior ethos”.
  • “All of this starts with rhetoric, Joe Bob, and this is a great step forward to reestablishing our patriotism and strength.” (16:01)
• Discussion of President’s 9/11 commemoration plans and national calendar.

4. Arabic on Dearborn Police Badges & Multiculturalism (17:40–22:28)

• The panel tackles a recent controversy over Dearborn, Michigan police adding Arabic to their badges—seen as a sign of cultural shift or loss.
• Hannah Faulkner: “They are diametrically opposed to what our founding fathers intended this nation to be. A nation founded on life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which is not found in Sharia law.” (18:37)
  • Warns against “Islamic takeover” and questions assimilation.
• Glenn: Cites Dearborn's history as evidence that assimilation has not occurred:
  • “If these cultures meshed and melded, Dearborn would be just the most shining example... but they’re fighting tooth and nail to preserve everything they left behind.” (21:10)
• Joe Bob adds that language is crucial to culture, referencing Pope John Paul II.

5. Trump’s “No Tax on Tips” Policy & Expanding Tip Deductions (22:28–25:43)

• Discussion of the “no tax on tips” initiative included in recent legislation.
• Joe Bob and Hannah joke about identifying as tipped professions to qualify; critique tipping culture expansion.
• Hannah: “Tipping culture is kind of out of hand... but the no tax on tips promise that President Trump made ... is absolutely incredible.” (23:30)
• Glenn: Suggests sunset provisions/expiration dates for tax laws to encourage continual evaluation and minimizing complexity (25:02).

6. Viewer Mail Segment (37:32–40:28)

• Joe Bob reads out humorous and critical viewer emails, including satire about political figures’ use of security details and cultural flashpoints.

7. Debate: Is Increased Law Enforcement Political or Practical? (40:28–42:59)

• Response to Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey’s claim that sending in the National Guard is political posturing, not public safety.
• Alex Clark (clip): “It does nothing to support or further public safety.” (40:28)
• Joe Bob: Criticizes progressive reluctance to use police/National Guard, suggesting law enforcement presence improves safety:
  • “People want to be safe... It actually is safer to walk around the streets at night.” (40:56)
• Panelists express confusion at why Democrats oppose such measures, asserting public safety should be non-partisan.

8. Organizer Interview: Grassroots Infrastructure in Politics (42:59–50:04)

• Charlie Kirk interviews Tyler about the mechanics and strategies behind large-scale GOP ballot-chasing operations.
  • Emphasis on the importance of full-time, not part-time, organizer networks.
  • Comparison to the left’s "community organizer model" and funding infrastructure (e.g., Arabella, Democracy Alliance).
  • Tyler: “You have to have a candidate that enables that outside organization organism to actually survive. So if you don't have candidates that are actually exciting... you can't do it.” (49:21)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joe Bob: “This is if you needed any more reassurance that stripping federal tax dollars from these organizations was a good idea... So that Sesame street could call your kid a transgender toddler? I don't think so.” (02:45)
• Hannah Faulkner: “It is absolute insanity that it was that high. $1.2 million, you said, of a salary for someone who is working at a broadcasting station.” (04:58)
• Glenn Hendrickson: “It’s almost perverse that, you know, in the food industry that farms rely so heavily on paying people like, poverty wages... they're breaking laws here and there.” (10:21)
• Monica Page: “We are reestablishing American pride, whether that's just a sense of patriotism within our country, but also within our military.” (14:40)
• Hannah Faulkner: “Being an American is not just a piece of paper. Being an American is what your heart is saying... founded on biblical principles, a constitutional republic where we the people are representing the public.” (18:37)
• Joe Bob: “If you ask a lib, I think an American citizen is somebody who complains very, very loudly that they want to be here despite how much they dislike the country...” (09:40)
• Glenn: “If you move to America, you should not just move physically, but you should move emotionally, spiritually, mentally. The way that you live out. The culture needs to change from where you were to where you’re going.” (21:10)
• Joe Bob: “So sending the National Guard is just a political point...? People want to be safe... No, it’s a political statement in the fact that, yeah, we’re gonna make it better.” (40:56)
• Tyler (on organizing): “Donald Trump actually unlocked something because for the first time in a long time, maybe ever, the general populace was like I want to go work for that guy.” (49:21)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• PBS/Public Broadcasting defunding & salaries: 00:13–07:19
• Hyundai immigration raid & corporate accountability: 07:19–11:57
• White House update, military ethos & department renaming: 14:00–17:38
• Dearborn Arabic police badges, immigration & assimilation: 17:40–22:28
• No tax on tips/Trump tax policy & tipping culture: 22:28–25:43
• Viewer mail, security for officials, cultural satire: 37:32–40:28
• Law enforcement: political statement or public safety? 40:28–42:59
• Organizing the right: infrastructure and full-time staffing: 42:59–50:04

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Tone and Style

The show is energetic, unapologetically partisan, sometimes comedic, and consistently skeptical of progressive or mainstream institutions. Hosts and guests frame topics with a sense of urgency about preserving traditional American values, are quick to point out perceived hypocrisy or excess in public institutions, and frequently segue into critiques of “wokeness,” government overreach, or left-leaning cultural shifts.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode delivers a comprehensive critique of public spending, immigration policy, cultural change, and political strategy—always emphasizing grassroots activism and individual responsibility. The hosts’ passion is evident in their spirited exchanges, peppered with humor, sarcasm, and the occasional provocative analogy. The segment on organizing for elections provides rare insight into the operational side of GOP grassroots politics.

Skip if you’re looking for centrist analysis; but if you want direct, confrontational commentary on the state of American culture and politics—as seen by the right—this episode is a microcosm of the Real America’s Voice ethos.

Transcript

[Podcast Host 1]

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[Joe Bob]

Is law enforcement sent into areas where crime is high just a political stunt? Well, there's actually a governor that really thinks that, which is crazy. Holy cow. There's an official US Police department that is now putting Arabic on their badges. That's an insane story that we'll definitely have to talk about. And the whole no tax on tips thing is, is really, really interesting because there's some occupations that, oh, maybe I will identify, maybe my entire salary is this tip. I, I maybe trying to figure out how to exploit that myself. I mean, sorry, irs, I, I'm gonna definitely play by the rules here, but the whole tax on tip thing is very interesting. All that and more coming up on this episode of Turning Point tonight. My name is Joe Bob. Thanks so much for tuning in. Together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. This is Turning Point tonight. Now remember you, you can email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com we love seeing all of your emails sending us some hilarious memes and videos that we could get to play on the segment four of this show. We love to see it. TPTPUSA.com now before we get to any of those stories and to our fantastic panel, got a really interesting panel today. Want to talk about the PBS news. Now we're all aware that pbs, NPR and the other public, public, the super hyper aggressive left leaning taxpayer funded media outlets are, are losing their money. Well now we're finding out what they're actually going to do. And some of the numbers have caused me and hopefully you to question how much money were these people making? So the Corporation for Public Broadcasting was the kind of umbrella term that they kind of divvied out all the money. Well, they were getting 500 million, half a billion dollars from US taxpayers to go divvy out to organizations that would attend intentionally promote incredibly leftist propaganda that is going away. PBS specifically was getting about $267 million that they would redisperse to local stations in the form of grants. Then those grants were used to rebuy the PBS programming. It was this whole kind of convoluted thing. We're super excited that President Trump got rid of it. Now the question is why then are they only cutting 15% of their staff? That's the number that PBS has put out. The New York Times reported it. 15% meaning about 100 people are now gone from PBS. Okay, well that makes me wonder if they were getting $200 million and 100 people is 15% of their employed staff. That means about 650 people work there. What the heck do 650 people at jobs need? 250 million over the course of every single year. So then I got curious. Okay, well, what do they actually make there? According to the most recent data, in 2023, the CEO of the Public Service Broadcasting Company was making $1.2 million a year. The average salary over there is about $150,000. All of that is to say, this is if you needed any more reassurance that stripping federal tax dollars from these organizations was a good idea. There you have it. Everybody over there was making an insane amount of money, and for what? So that Sesame street could call your kid a transgender toddler? I don't think so. Here, comments on that and so much more is host of the Hannah Faulkner Show. Hannah Faulkner. And filling in is our wonderful producer Glenn Hendrickson, making his reappearance. Not his debut. He's done this before on the Turning Point Tonight Show. Guys, thanks so much for joining. Really appreciate you taking the time.

[Glenn Hendrickson]

Thanks for having me.

[Hannah Faulkner]

Thanks so much.

[Joe Bob]

Joe, Bob, Hannah, you know, this might be a little bit of a spicy take, but so often. Right. Especially when you're talking, and I don't want to get too into the weeds here about the pension obligation that places have, the states have. They talk about, well, you know, we have to entice people to work here because they can go make more money in the private sector. Well, yeah, at the top high levels, that is often true. But for most regular jobs, what government job is paying out like breadcrumbs? Generally speaking, all of the people that I know that were government jobs are paid pretty dang well. Apparently, including PBS. Again, the average salary over there is over 150 or about $150,000. I don't know. Again, I think we all probably agree on this. How much is this emboldened your support of like, yeah, we got to audit these places and strip them of taxpayer funding because it's, it's, it's going to waste.

[Hannah Faulkner]

Yeah, no, it's absolute insanity. And you brought up a good point of not only are hardworking taxpayer dollars going to these news outlets who have a very strategic goal of indoctrinating and just pushing very specific narratives to the American people, like Sesame street telling your kid that if they feel like a boy, they can become a boy and vice versa, and whatever lunatic idea that they're pushing that day, not only are hardworking dollars going to that, but it is absolute insanity that it was that high. 1.2 million, you said of a salary for someone who is working at a broadcasting station. I don't know a single person in the private Sphere that's making $1.2 million working for a media company. So it's outrageous. But I'm so grateful for President Trump who is eliminating all of this waste, fraud and abuse. And I think the people who may be against what we're saying right now are the ones who just want these very specific narratives to be pushed out to the American people. Like your kid if he feels like a boy can become a girl.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah, to your point, I was a little hesitant to bring this on because now Glenn knows what he could be making if he worked over at pbs. Neither one of us are doing very well compared to those folks Glenn do. Are we at risk of losing you to the Public Broadcasting Company, which again, thank God, is no longer going to be getting American taxpayer dollars?

[Glenn Hendrickson]

Sorry, I was just preparing my resume there. What did you say? No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, I don't think you're at risk of losing me, but I think that PBS long ago lost the American people. It no longer serves or represents the public, which is in the name it's supposed to be in the mission. And you know, I'm not opposed to liberals sharing their viewpoints. I think it's, it's best if it's balanced. And clearly there's no balance at pbs. If there ever was, it was ages ago. It hasn't been for, for a long time. Balanced. If they had right and left, both sharing their views, both with an equal ability to present their viewpoints, that would be great. But that's clearly not the case. They've abused it. No public, or, I'm sorry, no private company that does what they do could survive in the market. And I think it's about time that they have to fight for their own in the market.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah, I, I kind of think that 15 number of layoffs that they're doing is kind of the edge of the iceberg. I think there's going to be a lot more coming up after that, especially if people are making absurd amounts of money, including your 1.2 million dollar CEO, which by the way, that was like two or three years ago. That, that information that's probably gone way up from there and probably will go down quite a bit further. You know, when you get into the numbers of these sorts of things, that's where things get really like, wait a minute, this is a pretty high proportion of this. Which brings us to this raid in this Georgia Hyundai facility. This is all still kind of unfolding. There's a lot of things going on right now about, you know, who is it, what is it? 475 people as of right now have been detained at this manufacturing plant for Hyundai, the automotive manufacturer in the South Korea, the South Korean auto manufacturer. I was looking into it. The plant actually employs about 1200 people. So, Hannah, over a third of those people were here illegally, at least allegedly, as it stands right now. Okay, yeah, you want to get the illegals out of the country, but is the foreign corporation going to pay any sort of a penalty for having, again, possibly a third of their workforce be here illegally?

[Hannah Faulkner]

Yeah, well, there's a lot of companies, especially in the blue collar industry, construction companies that employ a lot of illegal aliens, people who have been here for decades. And obviously it brings up a lot of questions. That's a lot of the debate is going on of people who have been here for a decade, two decades, three decades, should they be deported. And at the end of the day, we have allowed so many people into this country illegally that we're going to have to deport all of them. Yes, many of these large manufacturing companies, blue collar jobs like construction industries, they're going to suffer. But that's what's going to happen in this golden age of America as we reclaim the, the American dream and what it means to be an American. I know we're going to get into this in a second, but I think in our country, we have a really big problem with determining what an American citizen actually is. And so just because you've been here for three, four decades illegally, that does not make you an American citizen. So we're almost going to have to start over from scratch, which is really unfortunate. But this is what happens when you let an insane amount of people to come across our country illegally.

[Joe Bob]

Well, if you ask a lib, I think an American citizen is somebody who complains very, very loudly that they want to be here despite how much they dislike the country, which is, again, so ironic that it's difficult to comprehend. Glenn, you know, I've never asked. You're in the country legally, right? That's.

[Tyler]

You're.

[Joe Bob]

You are a US Citizen. It's crazy to me how, how many corporations it's turned out seem to depend on, on illegal labor. And I kind of think, yeah, we got a crackdown on the individuals, but also the big companies that are employing all these people and not giving those jobs to American citizens or at least people that are in the country legally. That could have those jobs.

[Glenn Hendrickson]

I agree completely. I am a millionth generation American. I have ancestors that came over on the Mayflower, and I'm quite proud of that. That is something very interesting that my dad told me at least, so I'm trusting him on that. He did that work anyways. Yeah. These companies that not only employ, but rely on the employment of illegal immigrants to conduct business, it's very sad and sick to me. It's almost perverse that, you know, in the food industry that farms rely so heavily on paying people like, poverty wages like that. And I don't mean to use a Bernie Sanders phrase, but they do. They rely on skipping out and saving a buck at the. On the backs of the workers in the fields to, you know, pass those savings on to us. And then the food is cheaper and more people buy it. And that just cycle continues. It continues. It continues. And they're doing this here with the production of their cars. And we see this over and over again in different industries. It's so sad. It's so sad. I can't imagine the, the lives of those workers where they not only are here illegally, and maybe they even regret that they're here illegally, Especially now that, you know, laws are being enforced, but they now fear coming forward to say, I'm being mistreated in the workplace. All my wages aren't high enough. They're breaking laws here and there. Now the employer can get away with doing things that are bad to people just in general, regardless of legal status. And to me, that's just a very terrifying situation that to find yourself in.

[Joe Bob]

Darn you, Glenn, for suckering us into possibly even feeling bad for the individuals, because it is. You're. You're right. You actually bring up a very good point. Not enforcing the law not only hurts American citizens, but it hurts the people that come to this country thinking, oh, this everything's gonna be hunky dory. Okay, well, now you've just upended their lives as well. So just, just cut it off. Stop people at the border. If you can come in, you can come in. If you can't, you can't. And everybody else, you know, good luck elsewhere. Uh, we're not gonna waste, you know, however many years of your life you thinking you're gonna live here and then send you back. It's unfair to really everybody involved. So that's it. That is a good point and an interesting one to make. Uh, we gotta take a break, but I do want to get to this tax on tip things relatively quick. We'll do that after the break. Uh, Glenn and Hannah will be back to discuss that. Talking about the. The Arabic badges on a United States Police Department's uniforms. Oh, wow. Don't go away. We'll be right back after the break.

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[Joe Bob]

Welcome back to Turning Point. Tonight, we're together. We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. You can email the show anytime you want. Tptpusa.com Send us all of the things that we should be talking about or the hilarious videos that we should play in the last second segment of the show. Let's check in with Turning Points White House correspondent Monica Page at the White House, which I'm told hasn't been renamed yet, but still, still possibly in the works, because renaming, and I think this is all positive, is a. Is a big point of priority for the administration. I think everybody's probably aware of it, but you're inside at the White House right now renaming the Department of Defense, the Department of War.

[Monica Page]

It sounds pretty badass, doesn't it, Joe? Bob, I will say that, I mean, this is something that I believe has been a long time coming. I mean, the president's kind of teased this previously in the previous weeks, but this is something that will reestablish the warrior ethos that Defense Secretary, or now soon to be called War Secretary Pete Hegseth has really been trying to re establish whether that's getting people more excited about their military, more excited about serving their country, more excited about physical fitness and serving and not worrying about wokeness or whiteness, as we saw General Milley saying that there's toxic whiteness or having Lloyd Austin leave his post for surgery. We didn't know where the heck he went all that time. And there's nothing like that in this administration. We are reestablishing American pride, whether that's just a sense of patriotism within our country, but also within our military. And that's why this is so important, because the President takes a lot of pride in our military and wants to not only establish this warrior ethos, bringing that back again, but also a toughness to our military, making us strong again, making our adversaries look at us and say, okay, we don't want to get into anything with the United States because they are literally the Department of War. And they're also looking at changing the name of the press briefing room to like the War Annex, which I think is also incredible. All of this starts with rhetoric, Joe Bob, and this is a great step forward to reestablishing our patriotism and strength.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah, I the only thing that I would quibble with if the president happens to be watching, first of all, thank you for watching, Mr. President. Always appreciate you tuning in. I would say let's also change the secretary because the secretary of war sounds great. Maybe, I don't know, the master of War, as Pete Hagg says, official title would also I think I like that better than secretary because secretary just has, you know, its own different connotations. So, Monica, what's what's the president up to this weekend? Going to be headed to New York. What's he going to be doing?

[Monica Page]

Yeah, so as of tonight, he's going to be hosting a dinner in the Rose Garden. He's got that all set up in that new patio to good use, that's for sure. But in the middle of next week, we're definitely going to see the president traveling to New York. As we know, next week they will be commemorating the 24th anniversary of 9 11. This is something that the president, of course, takes very seriously and keeping our nation safe and honoring those who lost their lives and honoring those first responders who did everything that they could to rescue those who were killed in that tragic incident. And the president is going to be commemorating this incident with a Yankees game. He'll be going to the Yankees game, I believe, in New York City. And that's where he'll be for the week and meeting with, I'm sure, first responders, firefighters, policemen, and then he'll also be spending an extended time there, going to the US Open later that Sunday. So that's a week from now, just about. So he's got a lot going on. And later this month he's going to the UK So he's got a very busy travel schedule ahead of this September.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah. Well, we'll all look forward to any and everything that comes out of out of that, as per usual, Monica Page turning points, White House correspondent. Have a great weekend, Monica.

[Monica Page]

Thanks, Joe. Bob, you too.

[Joe Bob]

Thank you. Now, earlier in the show, we had a brief discussion of what it means to be an American, I think, and I don't want to misquote here, but I'm pretty sure it was Pope John Paul II that said, well, well, language is the culture. Once you start upending the language, you've effectively lost the culture. Unfortunately, that's happening all over Europe and we're trying to not let it happen here. Uh, but it, it, uh, it is, it is, it is happening. We probably need to stop it. Let's bring our panel back. Hannah and Glenn. Uh, Hannah, I would like to let you go off on this. The Dearborn Police Department. Everybody recognizes Dearborn as a famously very, very Islamic and also Arab, which are two different things, but kind of one in the same. In the same sense, putting Arabic on their police badges. Now, your thoughts on this new approach from the Dearborn Police Department?

[Hannah Faulkner]

Yeah. Oh, man. Well, for the longest time, a lot of the left and most of the Democratic Party have said that they're going to come here, they're going to assimilate to our cold will be fine and dandy. Much of these Islamic terrorists especially are not coming to our country to assimilate. They're coming to take over the United States of America. You look at what's happening in Europe, it is a full blown Islamic takeover of the west of Europe, of the United States of America. It is no coincidence that the Houthis logo, the Houthis flag says death to Israel, Death to America. Victory to Islam. So I don't think it's any coincidence that we've got Zoran Mamdani about to be the first Muslim mayor, not to mention a communist in New York City. We've got Fatah, this guy in Minneapolis about to become a mayor. He is from Somalia. I mean, we've got people all across the country that are being elected to positions of power who do not hold ideas that are. They are diametrically opposed to what our founding fathers intended this nation to be. A nation founded on life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which is not found in Sharia law. So it's crazy to see all these things happening, but I don't think that it's any coincidence. And until we as, as the conservative movement, as Americans, really define what it actually means to be an American and who should be allowed to be fit for office, I don't think we're gonna solve this. And for the audience listening right now, being an American is not just a piece of paper. Being an American is what your heart is saying. What do you Believe in your heart. And for me, I believe an American would be someone who believes in what our founding fathers intended this nation to be. A nation founded on biblical principles, a constitutional public where we the people are representing the public. So it's wild to see what's happen and Dearborn, Michigan, but I also don't think it's any coincidence.

[Joe Bob]

You know, Hannah, I appreciate your comment, but I do have to correct you. I was watching MSNBC and they told me that when they chant Death to America, they're really just protesting the patriarchal society and the homogenous. I don't know. I'm trying to make a joke here, but, yeah, there's no real way to defend that sort of language. Glenn, you know, what are your thoughts here? Because again, like, I, you know, my parents and my dad immigrated to the country. All of everybody in his family learned how to speak English. Everybody assimilated to the culture. Everybody. No, nobody in the family is on welfare. Why is that not kind of a common norm for other people that immigrate to a place that is awesome, but then use the customs that they came from, made the place they came from not awesome, and try to do that here?

[Glenn Hendrickson]

I think it boils down to one word, culture. If you move to America, you should not just move physically, but you should move emotionally, spiritually, mentally. The way that you live out. The culture needs to change from where you were to where you're going. And I think Dearborn's an interesting example of just how incompatible Islam is with American culture, with Western values, etc. I did a little deep dive on this when I learned I was going to be on today. And Dearborn has been getting or receiving rather, immigrants from Muslim countries since the 1920s, when the whole boom of, you know, building cars was happening with, like, Henry Ford and his plant there. And you would think if. If these cultures meshed and melded, Dearborn would be just the most shining example of. Of how well that could go and how to acclimate to a new culture that's so different from the one that you left, and it simply shows you how that's failing. It's a terrible failure. You think they would have just hundreds of families saying, here's how to learn English. Here's how they do things in America, but they're fighting tooth and nail to preserve everything they left behind in their previous country.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah, I would wish anyone luck if they want to go to a country in the Middle east and demand that they put English on their law enforcement uniforms. I can't Imagine you'd get too far transitioning entirely to this. No tax on tips was a big talking point throughout the campaign. It is been kind of now encased in the whole big beautiful bill. 68 different professions are going to be able to deduct their tax from their income that is taxed at the federal level, but up to $25,000 per year. Now, some. Some professions on the list are kind of interesting. Hannah. Plumbers, electricians, air condition, repairs. Who I. Am I supposed to tip those guys? I don't think I've ever done that. I don't know if I want to do that sort of thing. Okay, not to take this silly, but is there a way that I can identify as one of those specific job titles and therefore get to deduct an extra $25,000? Because those are tips in my world.

[Hannah Faulkner]

Hey, you know what? We live in 2025. I mean, you can identify as a furry one day, a cat the next. I don't even know what kids are identifying usually. I think you'll be just fine identifying as an electrician or plumber, but I didn't know we were supposed to tip those either. That's very interesting to me. Tipping culture is kind of out of hand, if I do say so myself. But the no tax on tips promise that President Trump made to the American people is absolutely incredible. As we're. They're following through on this right now, putting it into legislation. It's incredible. I talked to especially waitresses, waiters at different restaurants. They are just taxed to death by the irs. It is absolutely not what our founding fathers wanted to happen. And so it's incredible to see. I think it's common sense and most liberals can't even back bite it. They'll try to find something to criticize Trump on the no tax on tips, but this is very principled, should be bipartisan, and it's exciting to see. But, yeah, you know what, Joe Bob, I think you should just go ahead and identify as electrician. People can send you tips and not get taxed on those tips.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah, my employer actually does it, too. They separate my check from the tips part of it to the actual salary part. So. And I appreciate them doing that. Hopefully I can write that off on my federal income tax. Glenn, these are set to expire in 2028. Do you think that's a good. Do you think that's a smart political move? Because if people like this sort of thing, you're going to say, hey, you know, if you want to keep it, you got to you know, continue electing conservatives that will try to lessen your tax burden. Is that a smart political move, or do you want to see this sort of thing last forever?

[Glenn Hendrickson]

As much as I'd love to see a law against taxes or a law that reduces taxes last forever, I think every law that involves anything to do with taxes should automatically come with an expiration date, because clearly the system is so convoluted and messed up that. That we need laws like this that. That it isn't easy to survive on just a basic, simple plan of how you pay taxes and how it has to differ so much based on a thousand circumstances that all affect each other. It's. It's the most complex thing I can imagine. So, yeah, I think that it's good that it's expiring, and I think that if anyone has sense, whoever has control in 2028 will extend it.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah. So with that in mind, just a reminder to you folks at home, make sure to tip to tip your snarky podcast hosts and their producers and guests. We greatly appreciate it, especially since we won't pay a dime of that in federal income tax. Glenn and Hannah, thank you guys for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time. We'll have you back. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I know we didn't get to the governor saying that. Okay, well, the law enforcement doesn't. It's just a political statement. It doesn't actually help crime. We will talk about that in segment four. But coming up next, Alex Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast. You can also email the show tptpusa.com uh, we'll be right back after the break.

[Alex Clark]

So, speaking of wellness brands and controversies, what is going on with my girl Carlin call? Just ingredients being called out for this Prop 65 stuff. What does it mean?

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, I mean, Prop 65 is a weird, like, Pandora's box.

[Alex Clark]

Is this a scam?

[Podcast Host 1]

Prop 65 is definitely not what people think it is. So what? At first glance, Prop 65 is a law that's just in the state of California that says if your product tests high in lead or higher in lead than their standard, it must have a label on it that says that this product contains more lead and it could be linked to cancer. And you're pretty much putting yourself at harm for. For consuming this supplement. But people don't know is that there really is no proper regulation for Prop 665. Meaning that, let's say, for example, I am consuming a brand. I can go test that brand in my kitchen. And if it doesn't test what the brand is claiming that it does, I can just put a lawsuit in. And they, it's up to them now to fight me with all the proof. That means they have to go back to the science. They have to prove to me in a court of law that their product is actually great, which for many brands that can cause that could be hundreds of thousands of dollars. The second aspect of that is you don't need to be a professional, so it doesn't have to be a professional lab. So what this has created is the Prop 65 has actually been nicknamed the bounty hunter law. So you have all these law firms in the state of California that just do this and they make hundreds of thousands of dollars just suing, pretty much wellness brands.

[Alex Clark]

Why wellness?

[Podcast Host 1]

Because they're using natural products. Which comes to the third loophole is that Prop 65 doesn't decipher between naturally occurring heavy metals versus stems, that some that could be contributing be contributed from, you know, pesticide use. So they don't separate the two. So if something is naturally occurring that's high in heavy metals, like for example, salt, like we've seen so many salt brands be like, hit with. You guys are high in lead. We live on a floating rock. Like, where do you think metal is coming from? Like, obviously things are going to be high in heavy metal. Prop 65 is so low that most products in the supermarket, most produce in the supermarket right now exceeds the level of Prop 65. So how is this an accurate baseline?

[Alex Clark]

So you think there is a witch hunt essentially to go after just ingredients and that they're using unbelievably unfair standards to hold up against her brand.

[Podcast Host 1]

Well, I don't. I think there's just a witch hunt against wellness brands in general. Like, I almost never see these people testing lead testing, you know, the crappy brands like the Doritos and the Cheetos, you know, you know, and I mean, also they probably are testing low because there's no real ingredients in it anyway. So maybe that's why. But I think there is just like a massive witch hunt with just wellness brands in general. So if you can't decipher another crazy thing is Prop 65 doesn't apply to fast food chains and vaccines.

[Alex Clark]

Well, there you go. And that tells you everything you need to know. So what really aggravates me is you've got people that are allegedly on our team that are not disclosing the information that you just said, this context within the Prop 65 conversation. And then they're saying, you know, just ingredients is lying, lying to you. They're heavy, they're heavy metals and blah, blah, blah, and you shouldn't, you shouldn't purchase from them. And I just feel like there's a little bit of an unfair conversation kind of being waged here.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, I think for any brand in the wellness space, they should be obviously cognizant of what types of products they're creating. Right. Because we always have to be aware of heavy metals. But most people that are touting heavy metals don't really understand how they work in general. Like, for example, tuna, like, everyone's like, don't eat tuna because it's high in mercury. But tuna is also high in selenium, which naturally competes for mercury in the body. So it's made perfectly. You know, obviously you don't want to like douse yourself in tuna, like tuna only diet, you know, but nature has, is always made perfectly. So that's why heavy metals in isolation through pesticide use can be really harmful where in a natural setting with optimal minerals, they naturally push out heavy metals. So this is why like for me, I always advocate for a mineral rich diet so we don't have to fear monger heavy metals all the time. Right. Like, it's great to have a coa and it's great to have a standard, but at the same time, when you know that there's a lot of money involved in potentially suing people over something like that, when sweet potatoes have more heavy metals than most protein powders, like, we really have to think about where we're getting our information and what we're actually scared of.

[Alex Clark]

So, you know, do you trust a brand like just ingredients still?

[Podcast Host 1]

Of course. Mean I every brand, like most of the brands that I work with personally and I get to talk to many of the CEOs like regularly. I, I trust our brands. Like, I know that there's good people behind brands and they're not doing it on purpose. They're not like, I'm sprinkling, you know, heavy metals in our products, you know, so I, I love, I, I love Carolyn and she's great and it's just really unfortunate. I've seen so many brands get slammed and sometimes they can't beat the, the, the allegations, they can't beat the rumors. And you know, once you get a Prop 65 warning, there's so much legal action that goes on behind the scenes, so much money, and it could be really detrimental to a small business.

[Alex Clark]

Is it truly too expensive to be healthy in America?

[Podcast Host 1]

It depends, like you're either going to pay the cost up front or you're going to pay the cost later. So it's like you get to choose. But I think most people, we keep telling them that it's too expensive to eat healthy. It takes too much time to eat healthy. It's don't even bother pretty much. I mean we see it all the time. Just eat whatever you want. It's not a big deal. It's you're here for a good time, not a long time and people don't even bother looking. I mean I just posted the price of eggs at Walmart. Basic eggs, right? We're not talking pasture organic, just basic eggs. Right. It was like under $3 and people are like, I've never seen those prices in years. And they go on to check and they're like, oh it is, it is that much. Like, are you guys even walking through the produce section?

[Alex Clark]

No, they're not. You know my hot take is they're not. Yeah, they just automatically go straight to.

[Podcast Host 1]

The Cheeto aisle, go to the Cheetah.

[Alex Clark]

They go to the frozen aisle more specifically and or they go fast food or they doordash and they're not actually walking the perimeter of the store and buying the real food. And what I like is that you are still going to be eating healthier and living healthier if you are buying the non organic, non pasture raised version, non grass fed version of your meats, eggs, you know, cheeses, milks, whatever. It's still better to have that than it is to just have, you know, soda and pizza rolls.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, I mean an egg breakfast is always going to be better than cereal sugar.

[Alex Clark]

I just, I feel like sometimes people use it as an excuse. Well, I can't afford organic or pasture raised so I'm just eating what I want anyway. I'm like, you can still eat real food on a budget. You can go to Aldi, they have organic produce now you can, they even have grass fed meat and they've got pasture raised eggs. You can go to wa. Walmart is the largest distributor of organic food in the country. I mean so that is a massive budget. And of course going to your local farmer's market is going to be the best too. Yeah, but I don't know, I guess how accessible do you think it is? Or inaccessible? Are there changes that need to be made?

[Podcast Host 1]

Well, I just found out recently I was kind of going back and forth with a follower of mine and we were looking into this and actually 93% of Americans have access to Some sort of food delivery system. Like, thank you, technology. You know, like we're, if you're able to get Ubereats, you're able to get your super, your groceries Uber to you, you know, if you really don't have access to a supermarket. Right. So I think we're not even looking at how much technology has evolved over the years because I think if you're able to get Amazon, you're also able to get, you know, a lot of non perishable items off of Amazon. Right. Like, I think I see people all over social media touting how much, how much garbage they're getting off of Amazon so they could organize their house and their refrigerator looks like something out of, you know, I don't know, a Barbie dollhouse. But you can't get, you know, a bag of rolled oats. Yeah. You know, like, what are we talking about here? So of course there's going to be, you know, food deserts in America, but the research that we have right now doesn't really add up because if 93% of Americans have access to food delivery systems, but then we're being told 17% of Americans live in a food desert, the how does. I don't know. I'm not really that good at math, but I feel like that the math ain't math.

[Alex Clark]

And what is your rebuttal to people who say, okay, so you care about, you know, people in poverty being able to have access to food, but then you're also involved in the Maha movement and the Maha movement is trying to cut Snap soda off of snap.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Alex Clark]

What's your response to that?

[Podcast Host 1]

I mean, I feel like at the end of the day, if you can afford soda, like then you should want that on your own dime. Like the whole point of SNAP is to support families through nourishment. If you can tell me the nourishment that you're getting from a soda, by all means we should keep it. But there's zero nourishment in any type of soda. Like even the healthier ones, I would say probably don't even need to be on snap. Like a soda is a soda. We should be giving water, we should be prioritizing organic fruits and vegetables. Like that's what should be on snap. And I feel like, why wouldn't everybody want that?

[Alex Clark]

I don't think a lot of people realize too, because I just found this out recently. Most states you can use your WIC program, your food stamp program at the farmer's market.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Alex Clark]

So that's something interesting. And you know, they've got organic fruits and vegetables and grass fed meat and all that kind of stuff and and usually all farmers markets have a sign that say we accept wic.

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[Joe Bob]

Welcome back to Turning Point tonight where together we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. Remember, you can get tickets to America Fest. AM Fest.com 2025America Fest is I think gonna be the best one that's ever been done. Now obviously America Fest, I've said before is my favorite event. I know I've said they're all good and they are, but America Fest by far is the best. I don't know. Not by, by far. Yeah, by far this one's going to be the best America Festival. You don't want to miss it. 50% off a general admission tickets if you go to amfest.com it's also cheaper if you need to fly here if you need or fly to Phoenix and get a hotel, a car, any of that. Always cheaper when you do it beforehand. So 50% off America Fest tickets amfest.comamfest.com 50% off general admission tickets. You can also email the show anytime you want. TPT tpusa.com we love senior emails. I love seeing some of the snark here. I wanted to read a couple one I think it's Joanna said just a lot of praise for the show. Really appreciate that. It always gives you a nice little boost when you read those sorts of things. So thanks Joanna. Donnie said this I thought this was really funny in, in, in in response to the Kamala Harris getting security from LAPD to her multimillion dollar house in Brentwood. But she can't afford security. It's got to be provided by the LA taxpayer. We're talking about rich Democrat donors, liberal donors paying for her security. That could happen or she could pay for it for herself. Donnie said the Koch brothers would happily pay for her security detail if she promised to run for president again. That's, that's probably do. I could probably rally some conservative donors to pay for her security. If she promises to run for president in 2028, she will probably lose 49 states. I think that would be hilarious. Donnie, thanks for the email. David also sent us an email about I don't, I can't read this. Let's just say it has to do with tampons in boys bathroom being used for alternative purposes. That may happen if you listen to too much liberal news. I'll leave it there. He was very funny email David, but I just can't in good conscience read some of these words on television. So there's that again. TPTP USA.com I have too much fun reading these. We should do this more. Sometimes I forget and we go through and it's they're very fun to watch, to read. TPTP USA.com I promised I would get to this. This is Governor of Massachusetts Maury Maura Healy talking about Look. Now sending more law enforcement agents into crime riddled, dilapidated cities is not, not as doesn't nothing to do with crime. It has everything to do with politics. I kid you not. She actually said that. Watch this and we will discuss.

[Alex Clark]

You know, look, Jen, as you know, I'm a former prosecutor, former attorney general, and as governor I put public safety first. And unfortunately, what I continue to see week after after week is the Trump administration using the National Guard in an effort to politically intimidate or try to politically intimidate certain opponents, certain states, certain cities. It does nothing to support or further public safety.

[Joe Bob]

Yeah. So sending the National Guard is just a political point. It's kind of like Governor Newsom, we played a clip. I'm not even sure if we played it on the show. If we haven't. Well, we should. But he said, yeah, they're trying to intimidate people. Like ICE is going to show up to polling stations to try and chill the vote, which. Gavin, why would ICE be? Why would Immigration and Custom Enforcement being at polling stations intimidate citizens who are on their way to vote? That seems like a weird thing, but that's not what we're talking about necessarily. But that's the whole thing. They're trying to intimidate people, you know, or trying to force people to understand, hey, more law enforcement and actually enforcing laws makes things safer. I don't know why libs are choosing to die on this hill. I mean, again, I've said this over and over again. There's you don't know why they're choosing to drive the die on the Trans Sports Hill. No idea why they chose to die on the Kilmar, Abrego, Garcia Hill. There's so many hills that they've decided, I'm going to haul myself up on this and choose to defend it till my last and dying breath. People want to be safe. If you look at anybody in Washington D.C. who is. Any amount of reasonable sensibilities, they've gone, oh, yeah, it actually is safer to walk around the streets at night. We don't feel the threat of people coming to commit a crime against us. So, no, Governor Healey, it's not a political statement in that war, trying to intimidate their political rivals. No, it's a political statement in the fact that, yeah, we're gonna make it better. We're gonna actually use our power to do things for the public good. Something that she herself should be doing along with everybody else in positions of power that's gonna do it for us here at Turning Point tonight. Charlie's gonna take us out, have a fantastic weekend, and we will see a Monday. Same time, same place. God. Bl. Foreign.

[Charlie]

I want to talk about politics, in particular, elections. What did we learn? The state of, like, what's happening right now. The state of the rnc, the grassroots, the establishment. So much happening. So first, Tyler. How you doing, Charlie?

[Tyler]

It's good to be here. I got to match Alex's energy here.

[Charlie]

Good luck. Yeah, that's Maha energy.

[Tyler]

I'll tell you what, that's Maha energy, but I'm actually following a lot of those protocols.

[Charlie]

You look great, Tyler. Looks great, doesn't he?

[Tyler]

I'll tell you, more fast food, no caffeine. That's. No.

[Charlie]

So that's big for you?

[Tyler]

Yeah, huge.

[Charlie]

That would.

[Tyler]

That was into the last election. The number one advice I can give everybody is you got to quit Celsius. All the caffeine, all that, I totally agree. It just kills you.

[Charlie]

So if you don't know what Celsius is, don't stay away from that stuff.

[Tyler]

The monster. Monsters.

[Charlie]

So, Tyler, what? You ran the largest ever ballot chasing operation in Republican Party history. 1,000 full time people. I was able to take credit for it and kind of watch it from afar. But you hired the people, you sourced the people. What did you learn through that entire process?

[Tyler]

We had. I mean, for all those that are listening, that have run a business, that have housed hundreds of people in a business, you know that that comes with a lot of. A lot of struggles. The hiring process alone, identifying the right people to be able to accept, adopt a culture and then get into the job is what's part of building a business. That's what we've done at Turning Point so well, on the backs of a lot of really great advisors that have helped us along the way. So it's great that at Turning Point we had a brand that we could attract people to and that we had a culture that we could attract people to. A lot of political operations don't have that. And so we've been really blessed because people could look at Charlie and see the Charlie Kirk show every single day and go, I want to be part of that. They could see the brand that Turning Point USA had built and say, I want to be part of that. That's unique and that's what I think enabled us. I mean, you and I sat down and talked about this and we said, we looked around and we said there's nobody actually doing the whole political operation the right way. C4S, PAX, they've just for years just kind of come in at the last minute, raise a bunch of money from donors and then they just throw whatever they possibly can in the sloppiest way possible at an election. And that's not enough to win. You have to do it the way that the left does it, which is the left has for years been talking and harping about the community organizer model, the relationship building model. Every customer that's out there, that's a voter, you know, trying to get them to over the line to vote for maybe the first time in a long time or for the first time ever, especially when we talk about the youth voters and why we had so much success and such, such a dramatic increase with youth voters is because when you focus in your conversations that right way, then it works. And for us, that blends with the hiring process because anyone that understands that and actually gets drills deep into the, the process, the brand, the culture of what we're trying to do, it becomes easier.

[Charlie]

But hiring a thousand people, how? What period of time did you have to hire a thousand human beings to go chase ballots in the Arizona sun?

[Tyler]

Well, very, very lucky because we have again, a lot of people who are already near, near and dear to us.

[Charlie]

College students.

[Tyler]

But college students, volunteers, volunteers, members of TPA staff that people who used to work for us, people who used to work for us, their parents, uncles, aunts, siblings. So again, that's why it's so important to establish long term, credible organizations in places that matter, like Arizona, like other places, other swing states. We need a Turning Point esque operation in every swing state.

[Charlie]

Yes.

[Tyler]

But to the point is you still have challenges. You still have to vet every single one of these people individually. You have to look at their entire social media background. You have to pull all of their past. They do a background check on every single person. You can't just hire willy nilly. And then when they got hired, as you know, you're aware of many of these issues is you have people who do crazy things.

[Charlie]

Why the full time model? Why, Tyler, did you not say, let's just hire people part time and use volunteers? Why? Why did you make the argument that full time labor was essential for this operation, the successful operation?

[Tyler]

It wasn't even us that made the argument. The left made the argument for us. Right. Because the left actually, years ago, about 25 years ago, started putting full time people and everything.

[Charlie]

Blueprint was part of that here in this state.

[Tyler]

Yeah. So where we are right now in Colorado, this is where it was born. You have the combination of Arabella and Democracy Alliance. And without getting into all the.

[Charlie]

What are they?

[Tyler]

Well, Arabella's essentially the funding mechanism that's able to go out and do a bunch of special projects that enables the left to do a bunch of crazy things. Whenever you see something crazy, you're like, how did that enter the zeitgeist? It probably came from Arabella's infrastructure. And we have full presentations on this. But here in Colorado is where Coda started, the Colorado Democracy alliance. And that was intended to replace the Democrat Party in Colorado. Because what the Democrats realized early on that the Republican Party still hasn't figured out is that the party itself, the apparatus, is actually pretty useless. It actually is worse than useless. It gets in the way more times than it actually helps. And so what the Democrats here in Colorado did was they realized, oh, we are going to create a alternate party structure outside of the party. And again, we're going to call it Democracy Alliance. And this is, this is the permanent infrastructure that we're going to build because we can't count on the Democrat Party to actually show up and do all the right things. And they did that. And they did it very well. And they did it so well, they were able to spread it across the entire country. And Colorado Democracy alliance became Democracy Alliance. And our side is still kind of going, oh, well, we got to check in with, you know, with, you know, again, not to throw Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell.

[Joe Bob]

All of the.

[Charlie]

I don't think there's any Mitch McConnell fans here.

[Tyler]

Establishment, establishment checkpoints before, before you funded.

[Charlie]

This is an important point. So the Democrat infrastructure was always outside of the party and one of the reasons we were able to win in 2016 and 2024 is not because of infrastructure we help but because Donald Trump is a once in a hundred year candidate.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Charlie]

Would you agree?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

It was just so outrageous, so in a good way, like so overwhelmingly positive and popular that it, it forgave all the sins of the Republican infrastructure.

[Tyler]

So this is the most important point Charlie is that you have to have a candidate that enables that outside organization organism to actually survive. So if you don't have candidates that are actually exciting for those people to come take the job and work for those people to show up and knock the doors and build relationships two years out, you can't do it. Donald Trump actually unlocked something because for the first time in a long time, maybe ever, the general populace was like I want to go work for that guy. And that's what enables that relational organizing, community organizing model to work.

[Podcast Host 1]

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