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In the dead of the night, when the world is sleeping. Real America's Voice is live this Monday, 2am Eastern. History takes flight.
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Donald J. Trump arrives in Israel leading.
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A high stakes mission for peace and the long awaited release of hostages. After months of war and heartbreak, a.
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Breakthrough, a ceasefire, hostage releases and the.
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First steps towards a lasting Jerusalem accord. Steve Bannon leads Real America's Voice live.
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Coverage joined by powerful voices from Jerusalem.
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As the world watches this historic moment unfold. From conflict to compromise, from division to deliverance. This is leadership on the world stage. This is history in motion. This is Real America's Voice. RAD presents Trump's triumphant mission to Israel. Live coverage begins this Monday at 2am.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go.
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To share the big lie?
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MAGA media I wish in my soul.
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I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.
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Steve Bannon
It's Sunday the 12th of October in the year of our Lord 2025. This is the curtain raiser on this historic endeavor President Trump's going to take in heading to Jerusalem and Israel tonight overnight and then time in Israel at the Ganessa tomorrow then to Egypt to looks like a broader peace conference. One thing for the audience we're going to do an hour now or at least an hour to the president goes, goes wheels up at Andrews as a little, little speed bump that will tell you about momentarily and then we're going to be back essentially at 2am Eastern Daylight Time tomorrow all the way through about 6. We'll hand it over to Gruber in the morning show. The folks at the morning show to to take us through to then war room at 10. The part of overnight will be in Israel at the Knesset meeting Prime Minister Netanyahu and also the hostages released and I'm sure President Trump meeting the hostages et cetera. It's been a nonstop celebration in hostage Square which happens to be in Tel Aviv, but it's been nonstop all since this deal was announced. It looks like everything is going according to the deal. I've got Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen with some polling and analysis. Joel Gilbert, the great filmmaker, joins me who's kind of an expert in the, in the region. And Matt Farazi is going to join us later in this hour from Jerusalem. But I want to start off by going to Benny Ray Harmony, who is at the White House. Benny, can you tell, I know we've already had inclement weather. That's when the ceiling's too low to take off. Marine One, I think the president's going to be in the motorcade heading to Andrews Air Force Base. So there is already a little hiccup, but things are going. The White House will figure it out. Can you give us, just put us in the room there, what's happening today? Yes, Steve, like you said, this is a historic day and you can definitely.
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iHeart Radio Announcer
Feel it here in the briefing room with just the energy of all the journalists and the people around here. It's something shifting and something different and I think everyone can feel it. But like you said, Trump was supposed to take off at 3:30 on Marine One.
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Steve Bannon
And we are dealing with this weather. It's very windy over here and it's.
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Getting a little bit chilly. So we think that's going to shift a little bit.
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Steve Bannon
But as of now, we're just waiting on the administration to hear more about departure, what that's going to look like.
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And just how the calendar and stuff.
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Steve Bannon
Like that, if that's going to change at all. Yes. Like I said, we're going to be throughout the day for the next hour going into detail. We're going to give you as much as we know, as much as the White House is putting out. And remember, a lot of this is driven by security. No president of the United States, no commander in chief. It's just kind of dropped into Israel for a flyby. When we did the trip to start the first term went to Riyadh, to Jerusalem and then to Rome. The planning on the, on the security alone was months and months and months. So this is they're thinking this through and of course we'll be here to make sure that we cover it all. We have people in Jerusalem, people in Tel Aviv, later, people in Egypt where this kind of peace conference is going to go. Benny, I know you can't give the details and obviously you shouldn't, but just what's the vibe in the briefing room today? What's the energy level and Directionally. How are they trying to frame this right now? Well, Steve, I was really surprised.
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Today from all over the world. I don't know details on exactly where they're from, but it's just a little bit different. It feels everyone's very smiley.
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A lot of people actually have even seen stopped and said, how are you doing today?
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And even with my, my press badge.
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So I really do think that the.
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Energy is good and people really see a way forward where we haven't really.
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Steve Bannon
Seen that for, you know, the past.
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Four years of the former administration and.
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Steve Bannon
Even just these past six months, it's been difficult. And I think that's starting to shift.
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iHeart Radio Announcer
And journalists in this room, left and right, are all feeling that.
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Steve Bannon
Yeah, this is what happens when you have a historical, historic peace effort underway. Benny, hang right there. We're going to come back to you at the White House. Benny Ray, Harmony. I want to go to Joel Gilbert first, and we'll bring Mark in a second. Joel, walk me through. You're a student of the history of the, of this region. This is obviously historic. There are many things going on. There was always a, there was always a group that pushed for the hostages as the key part first, and that was the focus. There were others that said, hey, we have to go back to how we were in 67 and 73, and we have to take care of Hamas. We particularly have to take care of the military brigades. Whatever happened, it was kind of confusing there for a while. It delayed things. Then the, the optics alone was starting to look so bad. And as President Trump said, told Netanyahu, hey, you can't take on the world, right? Something's got to change here. And now we have President Trump going over for historic release of the hostages. I think he'll be there in at least meet some of them, if not all 20. And then he's going to address in a formal address to the Knesset before he goes to Egypt. So kind of put us, given your knowledge of the region, how big a deal is this?
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Joel Gilbert
Well, what I'm seeing is this is the typical euphoria that the Israelis express as well as their supporters in the United States and around the world when it looks like there's some kind of peace agreement that's about to take place and there's great expectation for the future. 1977 with Anwar Sadat, the peace treaty with Egypt, the treaty with the PLO giving them Gaza and the west bank and withdrawing from Lebanon Some years ago. And now they say, oh, we're going to get these hostages out and peace is going to break out. Now, typically in all these scenarios I've described, the results for Israel has not been what they thought it would be. The peace with Egypt has just turned into an armistice. Egypt had a completely different definition of what peace would mean with Israel than Israel had. Israel gave up Sinai and got an office in a high rise building in Cairo called an embassy and Egypt allowed Hamas.
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Steve Bannon
Hang on one second. But hang on a second. That goes back to something deeper I know you've written about and I want to get into the, the Western definition of peace, of which Israel is obviously part of the railhead of the Judeo Christian west along with Rome and Athens. Our definition of peace is very different from a Muslim interpretation of peace.
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Joel Gilbert
Right.
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Steve Bannon
Explain that to this audience because I think that's the euphoria that we've seen in Tel Aviv in Hostage Square has been, I mean, amazing. I think it's gone on now for 48, 72 hours nonstop. And you know, they keep chanting, Trump, Trump, Trump. And as you know, Tel Aviv is not the exactly the biggest maga pro Trump territory. But there is euphoria there. But what is this? There's a fundamental issue here, and that is the Western interpretation of peace and the, in the Muslim interpretation of peace.
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Joel Gilbert
That's correct. In the Western world, in the Christian world especially, peace is defined through equality. Everyone is equal, all religions are equal, and there's mutual respect according to Islamic values and the Islamic religion. Peace only took place historically with Islam dominating society and with Christians and Jews in an inferior minority status, which they call the dhimmi status. Now, in medieval times, when Islam conquered lands where Jews and Christians lived, this was considered a very enlightened type of deal, that Islam would dominate society and allow a special inferior status for other religions. In modern times, in the Christian world, we think of peace as an equal exchange of ideas. Canada and the United States have peace in the Islamic world. They view peace only when Islam dominates Jews and Christians. So this has been the fundamental misunderstanding that the Israelis have each time they want to celebrate one of these peace deals. All it really is is a hostage exchange deal. Everything else remains up in the air, whether Hamas will disarm. And what I'm seeing is that the Islamic countries in the Gulf, Turkey and Egypt are now aligning with Egypt's way to minimize and ultimately eliminate Jewish sovereignty in Palestine. Egypt's model was if we offer acceptance, Israel will withdraw from these lands and become smaller and Indefensible. And that's the strategy they pursued with Sadat. They realized they could not defeat Israel militarily. So I see them lining up right now to create a Palestinian state in Gaza and demand that Israel withdraw from the west bank and also from East Jerusalem.
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Steve Bannon
Am I wrong here? Because I've been vilified by many people and I keep saying, hey, I'm actually pro Israel, but I think I got a very rational look at this. And then particularly with this project of Greater Israel, which I thought was always going to fail, and turn off the west and particularly turn off people in the United States. Is it your belief, coming to an independent assessment, that what we're about to see is a proto two state solution in Gaza with 2 million Palestinians staying, not leaving, with Qatar, UAE, Saudis putting up the cash for a massive redevelopment that'll make that, you know, that beachfront like Tel Aviv, and that you'll have a Turkish, which has been announced that the Turks will actually lead the security force that oversees it. And Hamas and the Palestinian Authority, which have always just been the local franchisees for Qatar and the Muslim Brotherhood, will essentially go away, but you'll have the real money in the Gulf Emirates. Run it with Turkey into. Basically, you have the beginning and the reality on the ground in Israel of a two state solution.
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Joel Gilbert
Yeah, there has been a quasi two state solution with Hamas in charge for the past 20 years, don't forget. So definitely the plan is to rebuild Gaza and then demand the entire Islamic world together to demand that Israel withdraw from East Jerusalem and the West Bank. And in exchange, they can put up embassies in offices in the Gulf states and in Turkey, and we'll have tell the Israelis that you'll have peace. But peace in Western terms is very different from the peace that they're actually offering. So I think things are lining up against Israel. And I think it kind of happened in part because Trump was disappointed that he could not resolve the Ukraine conflict, so he needed to have another peace deal. And he kind of pressured Bibi into it. So they dropped their demands that Hamas disarm, and all they're really doing is a hostage exchange deal. But you've got Jared Kushner and Ivanka in Hastit Square talking about this big piece. It's very reminiscent. It was the exact same square where they were singing when they gave Arafat Gaza and the West Bank. They were just singing about Shira Shalom. You know, it's all peace and immediately it just falls apart. So I'm not very optimistic that this euphoria is going to last very long.
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Steve Bannon
Did you not think though that also though Bibi crossing a line when he, when he did the missile strike on the Hamas negotiators, do you think that President Trump, because I think people around him said that was a inflection point. President Trump just said, and he didn't even get a heads up, he said something's got to change here. I've got to take some action. Do you think that that was in addition to the Ukraine? I realize Ukraine's a big part of this, but do you think that the situation of trying to take out the negotiators put a different perspective to President Trump?
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Joel Gilbert
I think Trump was in on it. I think they felt that the negotiators were the ones blocking a settlement and only because of that attack is the reason I think we have at least some movement today.
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Steve Bannon
Joe, hang on with us, will you? We're here for an hour to see the president off an historic mission to the Middle East. He's going to Jerusalem first to address the Knesset, which is essentially the Senate in the house of the Israeli people, the state of Israel. He's going to give a formal address there. Also, I think we'll meet some hostages, obviously spend time with Prime Minister Netanyahu. He'll be there for about four hours. Right now tentatively lands around 2 o' clock in the morning, Eastern Daylight Time, Washington D.C. time. We will be here live for all of that. We'll have a whole host of of experts that will join us as we'll follow that. Then President Trump will leave and go to Egypt. In Egypt, there'll be a broader, I guess you say peace conference or redevelopment conference for Gaza. We're going to get into all that. Mark Mitchell's got some polling, Joe Gilbert's got some analysis. Benny Ray Harmony's got what actually is happening at the White House. Matt Faraz is going to join us from Jerusalem.
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Hours. President Trump departs on a historic mission to Israel.
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Steve Bannon
We're calling some audibles here. We're going to get hopefully some footage from the White House momentarily. President Trump going to leave on a motorcade now. Don't know if he's going to have a gaggle. We assumed he was going to have a press gaggle before he left on Marine One to actually helicopter out to Andrews. But we'll have all that momentarily. We've got Benny, Benny Ray Harmony just now joined Real America's Voice, a Week or so ago. She's with us at the White House right now. I want to go to Mark Mitchell. Mark, there's a big article up in the Sunday New York Times saying the Zionists realized that the way this was pursued, the way this war is pursued, they're kind of not, maybe not great media strategy because as you know, you better than anybody, you understand this is all narrative war. At the end of the day, that. Yeah, narrative war is that physical conflict, kinetic war is just a continuation of narrative war. Right. To kind of put a spin on Clause. Fitz, the. But you're polling and I don't know if you've released it all, released some of. I just want you to step back and give us where we were and where we are now because I'll be brutally frank. Your polling is stunning on this topic. And I think the reason we're here today is because the reality of the shift in the ground of the American people, and particularly young Americans. Mark Mitchell, the floor is yours.
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Mark Mitchell
Yeah, 100%. I think the best thing that Israel could hope for is for this to just go out of everybody's mind for a while. I think they need a cooling off period because they really, really flubbed the narrative upper hand. And I think the reason is, is because after the Biden administration and the way that the government was completely corrupted, how it became clear how bad it was, I think people are really questioning hidden influence. And I'm not saying that to be anti Israel. I'm saying any influence whatsoever. I mean, the voter is not getting what they voted for. Why? And when things come out that make people raise an eyebrow, that's a problem. Now, I want to be clear, this country is not an anti Semitic country. It supported Israel for, you know, all of our polling history by a decent amount. And after October 7th, the numbers really shot up like people were very supportive of Israel because the horrifying optics, I mean, it was just an absolutely cataclysmal event. But it got to where we ask a benchmark question. Looking at the history of Israel and Palestine, who do you sympathize more with, the Israelis or the Palestinians? And 59% said Israel, 18% said Palestinians. That's plus 41 points and the highest in our polling. And then overwhelmingly people said that Israel was an ally of America, 63% to 7%, 78% said Hamas were terrorist extremists. And even 2/3 of America agreed that Israel had to go ahead and completely eradicate Hamas. So that's how much the support got. I mean, it was just really off the charts high. Well, fast forward and where are we today? It's a pretty, pretty different situation here. I mean we've been asking this question the whole time and the way.
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Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, slow down. So I don't lose the plot here. That initial polling, you're telling me, is kind of historic. But was that done right after the October, the 7th of October attack and slaughter of the, of the, of the, of the Jews. The biggest slaughter since the Holocaust. So that was around that time. Just go through those numbers again because I want people understand this is two years ago. Right. And, and that's nowhere in polling time. Polling just doesn't change overnight. You can look at tennis, you can look at what the American people think when they do the polling. Particularly when Mitchell and these guys at Rasmussen do it. They go down deep. It's almost like polling tradition is like glaciers. You see a movement or tectonic plate shift, but it's almost like geological, right. To have these kind of abrupt shocking turns. It just not, it just doesn't happen or it happens very, very infrequently. And normally because of the way the media is, it's some shock to the system and something that can break through the narrative. And this is my. Get back to my point. Modern politics, modern geopolitics and modern warfare is really narrative war. And if you don't win the narrative war, somehow you eventually segue into kinetic war. That's what you're seeing happen in the Eurasian landmass right now in Ukraine. This is what folks, I'm afraid may be about to happen because of China now going to flat out economic warfare against the United States starting on Thursday and Friday. Look, in the war we argue they've been at it for 20 years, but to shock it, I want to go back to those numbers for a second because I want to show the wide disparity. This wasn't even close. These are landslide type numbers. So just take us and walk us through post October 7th where the American people were on this subject.
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Mark Mitchell
Yeah, this is the problem because the carefully constructed post World War II mythologies that the press has created are all falling apart right now. And so public opinion is going to swing a lot as people process true information. I think Twitter was a big eye opener and also the focus on sort of authentic non establishment voices. But everybody saw the video come out of, of Israel and they were aghast. And so Israel support was 59 to compared to only 18 for Palestinians plus 41. It was pretty much plus 30 for the rest of our polling history prior to that. But Democrats were supportive of Israelis 48% to 22%, so almost plus 30 points. And Republicans overwhelmingly 70 to 16%. Ben Benjamin Netanyahu had a 54% to 31% favorable rating. Massively above water. People loved Benjamin Netanyahu. 78% said that Hamas was an extremist terrorist organization. And two thirds of America wanted them eradicated, including 64% of Democrats were like, yep, you know what? Israel's got to do, what it's going to have to do. And this was all polling that we did, you know, the month following this event. But then we've been tracking it bit by bit and the numbers have just been collapsing. And then finally we have to sort of current day here and it's appalling. Looking at the history of Israel and Palestine, who do you sympathize more with? Israelis down to 41% from 59. Then Palestinians up to 28%. So it went from plus 41 to plus 13. Republicans, it was at 70. It's down to 56. It's only plus 36 with Republicans. And Democrats are underwater, so they've dropped 30 points too. They're underwater seven points. And Bibi's right. When he looks at the age spectrum, it's really horrifying. Palestinians are above water with everybody under 50, including the 18 to 29 year olds are underwater. 23%. Only 40. Only 21% of 18 to 29 support Israel. That's one in five. 18 to 29 year olds support Israel. 44% say no. Palestinians, obviously there's a lot of people who are not sure. And I think that reflects the fact that people don't think that they're getting honest news out of the, out of the area. But I mean, just like a 30 point complete collapse in support. And we even asked a tracking question about genocide and, you know, whether or not Israel was conducting genocide on the Palestinian people. And it went from, you know, 55% disagreed down to like 47% disagreed. And we have a quote now, Benjamin Netanyahu is Prime Minister of Israel. Netanyahu, who has said the claim that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians is not only false, it's outrageous. Well, only 29% of America strongly agrees that it's outrageous that Israel is committing, not committing, genocide. So there's a lot of concerns here and I think we all, you know, why it probably has gone a little bit too far. And then in the, you know, in the town Halls, the, the discussion forums. Israel is the center of a big discussion about influence. And I'm not taking sides here. I'm just saying that it looks really bad in Reddit, which is, I think, the biggest liberal echo chamber. Israel is completely lost. And this is where you're 18 to 29 signal signals largely coming from. Everybody thinks it's a genocide. They think that Israel's killing babies. They think it's going on too much, it's bad, like there is no fixing that. And then on the right, you have massive wars between Candace Owens and Mark Levin and Tucker Carlson. And that's fine. It's fine to question and have these debates. But the problem is, is that in my opinion, a lot of the people slinging mud aren't using logic there. It's a lot of ad hominem. It's a lot of like trying to undermine people's trust. It's a lot of the stuff that it looked like the left cancel culture was doing back then, which is like, you know, put carve people away from the herd, ostracize them, and then try and turn everybody against them. And Tucker was one of the most trusted voices on the right. He actually out polled Fox News back when Fox News fired him. And now everybody's trying to convince the world that without evidence he's funded by Qatar, these things are going to rip the right apart. And so, like I would, again, I'm not taking sides here. I'm just saying that the public opinion has collapsed massively and it's gotten to the point where if Israel thinks that we're going to step in and defend them in a war, according to Americans, the answer is no. So we ask, would you support or approve, sorry, approve or disapprove of the United States going to war to defend Ukraine against Russia, Taiwan against China, and Israel against the Palestinians. And the war to defend Israel is the least popular war out of those three. It's only supported by 38% of Americans, only 19% strongly, but 52% oppose. So it's underwater like 14 points there. And only 51% of Republicans approve of that, like half of Republicans would. Only half of Republicans want boots on the ground to defend Israel. Only 30% strongly approve. And way more people, you know, and obviously this is the most popular Republican war, but it does, it barely gets to half. And the Democrats want no part of this. Only 14% strongly approve, 30% at least somewhat. And again, like across the board in this case with the age signals, nobody wants this. So if it goes on much longer. I think that they're going to maybe get themselves to a place that they really just can't walk back from. And obviously the approval rating of Netanyahu is completely collapsed as well, down into the low 40s from a majority approval. I mean, that's really high for after the October 7 for Netanyahu to have a positive favorability in like, I think it was close to 20 there and you know, now it's basically a wash. And he, like, he was approved of more than Trump was at the time. So I don't know, like, we'll see what happens. Hopefully this deal comes through, but it's, it's gotta end. And the way this is tearing the right apart, there probably should be some leadership where people, the top come in, step in and give guidance about how we should parse these things. Because a lot of uncomfortable questions are being asked about apac, a lot of uncomfortable questions being asked about Qatar and all of the, all of the wealthy families as well and what kind of influence they're buying.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, hang, hang on one second. This is a real America voice war room special on a Sunday afternoon. We're at the White House to watch President Trump depart to Andrews Air Force Base to then fly overnight to Israel to address the Knesset in the Israeli peace. Also to greet the hostages and to meet with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu before he goes.
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Steve Bannon
Egypt for a broader peace conference in Egypt. Short commercial break and return to the war room in just a moment.
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Steve Bannon
They've called an audible at the White House and they're going to go with a motorcade instead of Marine One, it looks like. And our own Benny Ray Harmony is getting organized right now. If they're going to do a press gaggle, we hope that the President does a gaggle. And what does a gaggle mean when he comes out anywhere and you've got a bunch of press there and President Trump just hasn't. It's a little impromptu press conference and he does. He's better than anybody. I'm sure he'll have lots of updates. Everything going on, particularly one of the things people want to know about is not simply this historic peace conference that he's going over for. And peace deal and the hostages and all that. But the Chinese Communist Party essentially declared outright economic war on the United States on Friday or Thursday night. They've cut out, they've cut out all shipments, I think starting November 1st, all shipments of really rare earths in the industrial strength. Rare earths, the magnets, all of it. They've also sent a letter that President Trump was able to get to other nations that they want to put export controls from those countries to the United States. I mean, this is up in your face. The crypto market collapsed on Friday. They get $400 billion drop in the crypto market. Also the stock market was off, I think 900 points. Now tomorrow is Columbus Day. That may give everybody a time to think through. The president put out a true social a while ago saying, hey, she probably had a bad day and he doesn't want to destroy the Chinese economy. And you know, we don't want to destroy it either. And we're just here to help. And I put up comments that to just give the president my two cents for what it's worth. They're at economic war with us. They've been at economic war with us for a long time, essentially since 2019 where they declared it President Trump after two years of tough negotiations to get a deal that brought them into the really the world economy. They tore it up and spit in his face. Of course, Covid happened immediately thereafter. I know there's no, there's no correlation because that's conspiracy theory obviously. But so this Chinese situation is something. I know the midnight oil in the White House is burning. And my understanding there may be a response, kind of a muscular response on those topics this week from the White House. As the president, I'm sure that's going to be a topic of conversation when he meets with these 25 nations in Egypt after his visit to Israel and after his address to the Knesset. Mark Mitchell, I want to bring Joel Gilbert back in here, but I just have a question. We talk about that shift. We hear a lot. How much of this is related to the fact that TikTok that and there's all these, you know, assertions, right, by Israel and Israel intelligence, the Mossad that, that both the Persians and the Muslim Brotherhood and backers of Hamas essentially took over TikTok for this very critical six month period right after October 7th, or I shouldn't say immediately after, but when Israel and the IDF started to go into, I think it was after the six months to really go in and try to set this, sort this thing out. And at TikTok, you heard you had all these videos up and a lot of what they say was manufactured. Number one, how big an impact do you think Tick Tock had overall and is that manifested anyway in your numbers?
- [38:36]
Mark Mitchell
We, we did pull on Tick Tock, not that recently, but it is astounding how many young people are aware of it and use the platform. 84 said they're at least somewhat aware of it. 60 I think it was over 60 who said very aware. I think it's this trifecta of Tick Tock, Reddit and also Instagram. And from a TikTok and Instagram perspective, I think, you know, algorithm is often pull and so if you find something you like, you click on it, it's going to feed you more of that. And I think that's like somewhat personalized. People are obviously getting news that way, but I don't know like overall if that's what. Because in my opinion, we talked about this, I think Reddit is by far the most corrupt one. It's the one where there, there are no right wing views, period, whatsoever, anywhere on the platform. It's the fifth biggest website and everybody goes there because it's got all of these subreddits that are for special interest like bulletin boards used to be. And among the 18 to 20, sorry, 18 to 39 year olds, 64% said they use Reddit at least occasionally. And three quarters of them say it's a good, somewhat agree or more, that it's a good source of news. And so the problem that we have is that basically mainstream media news is dying its legacy. Nobody really listens to them. They've lost their trust, but they've also lost the format. And also we completely destroyed education. These people aren't being taught Western values, they're not being taught critical thinking. Their teachers have been replaced by activists and, and so something's going to fill that hole in the Internet, fills that hole and you, you can't, like there's, it's a complete frontier for people to take advantage, manipulate, use bots. And I think Twitter is probably like the least boded place and you go and look at it and most of the discourse is logic based and you know, they'll get the right answer eventually. But that's the thing is that like Twitter is really prominent now and it's where I think the narrative battlefield is being played out. But you still have these really entrenched like liberal echo chambers that are radicalizing people. This is where people are learning that Charlie Kirk's a fascist. This is where the religion of Christianity is being redefined in order to accept the LGBTQ movement. This is I think, largely where these people are being groomed. And obviously Tick Tock and Instagram are some of it. And I think they kind of work as like basically an ecosystem that enforces the liberal like monoculture basically. But I think they're probably less susceptible and corruptible than Reddit. And obviously these people are getting it from their parents, they're getting it from academia as well. And the window's closing. Israel has lost this generation. The 18 to 29 year olds are not going to support Israel at all. And as we talked about before on your show, they also have completely given up on capitalism and they don't even care about conservative values, which is completely 180% opposed to what the right thinks. They, they think that just because they did better in this age group as far as like the Trump vote, that all of a sudden we're going to have this like golden age of conservative resurgence among the younger Americans. It's not going to happen. We are screaming towards economic populism and if the right doesn't fix it, then the left going to fix it and we're not going to like how?
- [41:50]
Steve Bannon
Well, of course if you're an economic populism, maybe you think all is not lost, but that's a conversation for a different day. So, Joel Gilbert. Joel, you and I have had this conversation many times that now, you know, at least since 93 or definitely since 2001. It seems to me that we have been inundated sometimes with scholars and people talk books on Islam, people talking about Islam. But you've made the point to me for a long time that you think we have a very, very little understanding of this. And you're saying this is manifested in this situation right now in Israel and particularly the peace conference tomorrow, I might add. The peace conference tomorrow is 25 nations. It's being hosted by Qatar, Turkey, Egypt and the United States of America. And as a footnote, the Israelis were not invited. Okay. Also Hamas and the Palestinian Authority were not invited also. It was kind of like, okay, that's old news. None of those groups are in power anymore. We're in power. Here's the redevelopment plan. What is your thinking first off about this? Has kind of been a history of some of the Israelis always joyous on any type of like mention of peace or mention of hostages exchange or mention of, you know, land for peace, whereas others, and I think the more hard headed and realistic, and that is the folks that Basically won the 48 war, won the 67 war, and won the 73 war. May not be so excited about the developments over the last couple days and particularly ain't going to be excited about what's going to go down in Egypt tomorrow. Sir.
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Joel Gilbert
Okay, a couple things here. There is a huge lack of scholarship in the Western world, United States, Europe and even Israel in understanding the Islamic world, their values, their culture and their goals that are very different from Western values. I actually studied at the University of London with some of the great scholars, Vitikiotis and Kelidar, who were Arabic speaking Greeks or Jews that understood the Islamic world. And we largely don't have those type of scholars in the Western world. On the other hand, the Islamic world understands Western culture quite well. Yahya Sinwar, the head of Hamas was 10 years in an Israeli prison and he understood that in Israel they were very concerned about even one person. The life of one person was critical. And that led to the strategy of Hamas to abduct and kidnap and get 250 hostages. So the poll numbers that your correspondent just cited are the result of Hamas's strategy to dribble out the hostages slowly. It's both Israel's strength and its biggest weakness that it doesn't want to give up on even one person. Palestinians, on the other hand, they all have about 10 children as the average family size in Gaza.
- [44:35]
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on.
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Joel Gilbert
Yeah, they're more than happy if a couple of them.
- [44:38]
Steve Bannon
Hang on a second, hang on, hang on. The generation that fought the 67 and 73 war would not have been like that. They would have said, hey, it's horrible, the hostages were taken. It's a huge failure, just like when they were overwhelmed during the Yom Kippur War. But to save the nation, you're going to have to do what you're going to have to do, right? I don't buy for a second that the leadership in 67 or 73 would have spent a lot of time on the hostages. They felt terrible about it, said it was a huge failure, but there's going to have to be sacrifice if we're to save the nation. And so dribbling out and playing into Hamas strategy like a lot of the Israelis did, do you think that that generation would have bought into that?
- [45:20]
Joel Gilbert
I don't think they would have bought into it. Even Netanyahu didn't really buy into it, but he was pressured into it constantly by these hostage families and by the protests outside his house where they kind of pressured him into this part of Israeli society that demands that every individual be saved in Gaza. In the Islamic value world, they have an average of 10 children per family in Gaza. It's all paid for by UNRWA and the United States taxpayers. And they understand that they're going to lose one or two of them. And they're actually quite okay with it because they're Shahidin, they're martyrs. So there's such a difference in cultural values and Hamas was able to take advantage of it and create the situation to make a two year war and erode Israel's position internationally. That was part of the strategy that has been successful. So what we're seeing play out now is a continuation of the lack of understanding. War is in the end, a failure of diplomacy and a failure of understanding. And my concern is these celebrations are premature. Just like they celebrated in that same square when they gave Yasser Arafat Gaza. And they said, it's peace, it's all going to break out. And within two weeks, metaphorically, you know, Hamas took over and, you know, the rest is history. So every single peace deal Israel has signed has failed because they do not understand that the Islamic world does not accept Israel of any size or circumstance. And everything they negotiate is just something that the Islamic world believes is on the path to minimizing Israel and making it indefensible.
- [46:56]
Steve Bannon
Hang on for a second. How do you say, and back up that we've spent $7 trillion in Iraq, we spent $2 trillion in Afghanistan, we fought those wars to uncertain conclusions and or defeat over 20 years, the entire book publishing industry, we had books and books and books. Israel surrounded by the Arab world. How can Israel, the United States, the West, now that you see the massive migration to Europe, how can they have failed to actually have the scholarship and the knowledge of which is obviously an enemy?
- [47:31]
Joel Gilbert
Sir, it's a fundamental misunderstanding that you assume everybody thinks like you do and it's an unwillingness to realize that maybe there's a different culture and a different religion that doesn't have the same values. Let's take the issue of nationalism, nation states that grew in Western Europe starting in the 17th, 18th century. Nationalism, making your loyalty to a nation state was a Christian solution to Christian problems. It resolved the civil war between Protestants and Catholics. They came up with this idea of nation states. After World War I, the West tried to impose the idea of nationalism onto the Islamic world. And it never worked. Because in Islam, nationalism and loyalty can only be toward God, toward the Quran and toward Allah. So you can never be loyal to a nation state. So it's the fundamental misunderstanding of thinking that different cultures think differently and have different goals and values than our culture. That's the fundamental problem.
- [48:35]
Steve Bannon
Hang on for a second. We got Joel Gilbert, the filmmaker, a scholar of of particularly of Islam in the West. We have the great Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen, who brings the numbers. He brings the receipts. Matt Ferrazi is going to join us from Jerusalem with an eyewitness account of what's going on. Of course, we have Benny Ray Harmony at the White House. As we continue to wait, the US.
- [48:59]
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Steve Bannon
For the President to depart from Andrews Air Force Base. Back in a moment.
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- [52:15]
Steve Bannon
Okay, we have a couple of updates we're actually going to go through at least for a little while, the 4 o' clock hour, because the president will not have left Andrews Air Force Base by then, maybe shortly thereafter. Let's say he's only from the South Lawn. There's not going to be a press gaggle. So I don't think we're going to get an opportunity to hear from the President beforehand. I think the press is actually loaded up and we're going to stay close to this. We got Benny Ray Harmony at the White House. We're going to stay on top of this as the President leaves. I think we've got a shot of Air Force One at Andrews on the tarmac. Maybe we can show that. And then we go back to Hostage Square. I'll bring in my next guest, Matt Farrachi. Matt, you're from right outside of Jerusalem. Put us in the room there. Tell us. It looks like all we're seeing nonstop on CNN and MSNBC and Fox is something that I don't think we'd ever see before In Tel Aviv and Hostage Square, they're chanting Trump. Nobel Prize. Trump is great. Trump is a hero. Isn't that, isn't that part of Tel Aviv? I thought that was equivalent to a deep blue state here in the United States of America, sir.
- [53:27]
John Sopel
Steve, listen, you. You read the room correctly, so maybe that's why you read the war room correctly, if I could use the pun. But yes, it is very surprising. This is the Israeli left. A lot of people in the Israeli left, frankly, go out and protest and demonstrate almost for a living. And so for people to be going out and praising the president, I think it's obviously, it's a great thing. The National Post journalist with the National Post described Israel today as a, I want to get this quote right, a country vibrating with conflicting emotions. I think you alluded to that earlier, Steve, quite brilliantly where you said that that 67 generation, kind of the hardcore generation has one viewpoint on the hostages and the left in Israel has another viewpoint. The point is though, that everybody obviously wants them to come home. The conflict is over. The cost of that, of that return.
- [54:27]
Steve Bannon
When you say the cost of that, walk through how the people in Israel are thinking about it. I know how the United States and quite frankly, I don't believe and part of this is the Fox News issue. But I don't think many people outside the people watch the war room and some others understand that, hey, this trip is bifurcated. It's to Israel first, the Knesset, the hostages meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu. But there's actually something quite historic going to go on in Egypt. 25 nations really Qatar, UAE and Saudi are the bank. The Turks look like the security. The Iranians, the Persians are showing up. I mean, I say that I said it in the Daily Telegraph this morning in an article that President Trump has united the Arabs more than T.E. lawrence. So for people in Israel, how are they starting to think through the entire, this entire transaction?
- [55:20]
John Sopel
So just for there's a couple things, Steve, and I was looking at a post from a great Israeli conservative journalist called Amit Sehgal who's really got his finger on the pulse. So part of the conflict, first of all, Steve, is Israel's had to release almost 2,000 prisoners. These prisoners are bad people. One of the people that he just wrote about on Twitter killed like 60 something people in a bus bombing. Another person murdered a mother of six in front of her children. Stabbing murdered in front of her children. So there's a huge amount of very bad people being released. And obviously this causes a lot of conflict with the public because where are these people going to go and are they going to change their nature now that they're out of prison? I don't think so. People know that. You probably also followed Steve. There's a lot of fighting right now in Gaza. Hamas has essentially taken their uniforms off. They're out in the streets and they're shooting people. There's about 12, some estimates range 12 to 15 clans, different clans inside Gaza. And Hamas, you know, obviously this new Israel is pulled out of parts of Gaza and this new security force that the president is spearheading has not yet taken control. And so there's a shuffle to kind of establish authority. There's similar clashes taking place in Judea and Samaria, AKA the West bank. People waving Hamas flags in Judea and Samaria, where Hamas is wildly popular. And also, again, armed clashes taking place there. So that's the issue is on one hand, Steve, there is joy and overwhelming joy at the, as Mike Huckabee was talking about earlier at the release of the hostages, also fear about what's going to happen to these, if I may be so inelegant scumbags that are being released out into the population again. And then how is all this going to go? But the point is, Steve, that President Trump is trying something new. And he knows that you can't go back to the same old, same old. And something's got to change, something's got to give. If you're going to have peace, you got to try something different. And I think a lot of the Israeli public is giving the president credit. Signs all over, I was in Jerusalem last night. Signs all over the place. Thank you, Mr. President. People are giving the president credit for trying to change the dynamic and do something new.
- [57:53]
Steve Bannon
Matt, hang on. Matt's in Jerusalem. We have Joel Gilbert, the filmmaker with us, the great Mark Mitchell. Benny Ray. Harmony is at the White House. Believe the president's leaving momentarily, heading to Andrews Air Force Base to get on Air Force One with a small contingent of his advisors to hurdle overnight to Jerusalem, where he will land early tomorrow morning. We will cover all that live at 2:00am Monday morning or tonight, 2:00am Eastern Daylight Time, until basically six or so will cover the Israeli, the Israel part of President Trump's visit live, including his address at the Knesset and Steve Gruber. And people will pick up at about 6 or 7. And then we'll come back for the war room, probably for some of the important events that are going to take place in Egypt, a world historical event at the same time we're talking about, given the Ukrainians, Tomahawks and the Chinese Communist Party has declared economic war on the United States of America. There are decades in which nothing happens, and there are weeks in which decades happen.
- [59:01]
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Stephen K. Bannon
Donald J. Trump arrives in Israel leading.
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Steve Bannon
A high stakes mission for peace and the long awaited release of hostages.
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Stephen K. Bannon
After months of war and heartbreak, a breakthrough, a ceasefire, hostage releases and the.
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Steve Bannon
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Coverage, joined by powerful voices from Jerusalem.
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Steve Bannon
As the world watches this historic moment unfold. From conflict to compromise, from division to deliverance. This is leadership on the world stage. This is history in motion. This is Real America's Voice. Rav presents Trump's triumphant mission to Israel. Live coverage begins this Monday at 2am Eastern only on Real America's Voice. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. We just not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know, I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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John Sopel
And where do people like that go.
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Steve Bannon
To share the big lie?
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John Sopel
MAGA media I wish in my soul.
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Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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Steve Bannon
This is kind of bonus coverage to the bonus coverage. We were going to do an hour this afternoon to kind of tee everything up with Benny Ray Harmony at the White House. We've got Mark Mitchell, the great pollster with some quite frankly shocking analysis of, of polling or where people stand on this. Joel Gilbert, the great filmmaker, joins us as a scholar and someone's focused on this for decades and decades and decades. And Matt Farachi, one of our dear friends that is in Jerusalem. I want to just walk through. So subject to leaving here shortly, we're going to stick around until Air Force One goes wheels up, right? We're going to do this from start to finish. So basically at 2:20 we're going to start coverage at 2:00 clock in the morning Eastern daylight time in the war room here at Real America's Voice for our special coverage of this at they're saying right now at about 3:45. So after President Trump arrives and freshens up and he will meet with the hostage, some of the hostage families. And I was telling people, I think that that would be logical, right? It's now that's going to happen, it looks like in Jerusalem. Oh no. President arrives at Tel Aviv. Okay, Tel Aviv, perfect. Going to arrive at Tel Aviv, meet with the hostage of families and then the President is going to at 4:00 in the morning, 3:45, meet with the hostages, 4:00 in the morning, address the Knesset. And then at 6:00 he's going to head back to the airport. And then at 6:30 or 6:45 he's going to head to Egypt to the resort on the Red Sea where this conference, this Middle east conference is going to take place. And we'll put the coverage will be continuous on the morning shows, but they're going to also juxtapose showing some of the highlight reel for President Trump with the hostages, with Prime Minister Netanyahu and obviously with Knesset to give a formal address to do. Then also his going to Egypt. So a historic day tomorrow might add to the President, I guess is going to return looks like either return tomorrow night or yes, President departs. So at 10am or that'd be at 10am the president's going to then return to Washington. So he's going to be in Egypt for a couple hours. He'll be in Israel for four hours, a couple hours in Egypt to address this and then leave. Coming back to do Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk is being awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is the highest civilian award that one can, that one can get. So he's gonna be awarded that about I think 4 o' clock in the afternoon on Tuesday, Charlie Kirk's 32nd birthday, the 14th of October. And of course we're gonna cover all that live. But I will tell you, it stuns me. I mean, you know, Trump's a beast. Who could do this? What 25 year old can do? He's gonna, because remember when he goes over, it's the tension and the pressure of meeting the hostage families of what they've gone through and the hostages. It's then giving an address to the Knesset which is going to be on global television.
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Joel Gilbert
Right.
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Steve Bannon
Everybody's going to hang on every word. It's then going to Egypt and address these 25 nations as they kick this off this, you know, development conference. They're going to have everything. The President goes, he is on the main stage and it's just extraordinary. It's absolutely extraordinary. The energy and also not just the energy, but the presence, you know, people. Now there's a term people use, be present, okay. When President Trump is there, he's the center of the action and he understands it. He's self aware to understand that. But it's extraordinary. He's taken essentially a red eye, and this is a long red eye over to Israel. He doesn't go to the hotel and sleeps till noon. Like many of you have taken the red eye before to the, to London or taken the red eye from LA to New York. You know, maybe go rest a while, wake up, shower, have breakfast and by noon or 1 o' clock you're ready to roll. So you've saved at least half a day. President's getting right off the plane and he's in action. It's just absolutely extraordinary and that's why we want to do the coverage live. It's a historic event, one that will be talked about decades from now. Want to make sure we're giving you the coverage that only real America's voice and the war room can give you to get all the top experts and get everybody in. Matt. So Matt, give me an update like the President comes tomorrow. What are the, besides the dramatic hostages, Maybe he's at a hospital. The hostages, seeing the hostages, meeting the hostages, the photo op. What are the Israelis anticipating from the Commander in Chief tomorrow on his four or five hour visit to the Holy Land?
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John Sopel
I think they're anticipating, Steve, if I may, the President, to do what he does, to do it bigly. And the Knesset is very excited. You know, he's only the fourth President of the United States to speak to the Knesset. It was first Carter Clinton spoke and also George W. Bush spoke before the Knesset. So it's a rare invite, it's a big moment. And as you said, Steve, it's the Trump Middle east gamble that he's doing here, which is can you, I think it's the fundamental question that people are talking about. Can you win over the moderate Arabs who are interested in, you know, let's say the Dubai model, who are interested in business and finance and economic prosperity? Or are you going to have the conflicts like you're having in southern Syria right now where people are Druze and Christians and others are getting slaughtered? And even though you're trying to deal with Damascus, there's ideology, I believe you call them, Steve. Surreal. Sharia, supremacists. Am I correct? Is that your term?
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Steve Bannon
Yes, absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
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John Sopel
So that's, that's, that's the conflict. But I think again, people are excited that the President is rolling the dice here and doing something very big. Go big or go home. And everybody's very excited. And again, Trump is crazy popular in Israel. I mean, I haven't looked at, I've looked at some polls in the past, but if you just, even if you walk around the streets, Steve, and you stop, for example, the average young person, he's insanely popular in Israel. People just love him and they trust him. And so it's definitely a highly, highly anticipated moment. Even with members of the Knesset, there's going to be religious leaders representing different faiths in Israel. Also at the Knesset, everybody's waiting with bated breath to see what he says.
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Steve Bannon
A lot of the people in Tel Aviv, I want to make sure that given the fact that President Trump is leaving, he's put a huge amount of prestige and his time and his heart. Because, you know, when he talks about, like, about Ukraine, he always starts with the casualties. In fact, he had told me a while ago what the real casualties were. I was blown away. But then he came public with the 1.8 million, just the Ukrainians dead and wounded, which is, you add a million Russians, you're at World War II type levels in the bloodlands. President Trump is a man with a big heart. People think he's not. He's got a big heart. The conflict and the brutality of the raid and the slaughter on the 7th of October moved him. And then we saw the videos of it really moved him. But then the counterpunch and what happened in the, the interim period also moved him. Many of the people now in that, and I want to make sure I'm fair about this, but many of the people in the square now in Tel Aviv, particularly Tel Aviv, is obviously the more progressive and liberal part of Israel. Many of those people have not been Trump fans. In fact, they've become Trump fans basically since President Trump stepped in here and it now brought both sides together to have this peace. But hasn't that crowd, because they've been the big protesters from the beginning, aren't they actually part of the peace at any price that has to a large extent gotten Israel? And obviously I'm very anti the Greater Israel Project. But you've also had a problem, as Joe Gilper pointed out over time in history of certain amount of the Israelis that have just, you know, because they want acceptance, they want, you know, short term peace or whatever, are always open to kind of these Arab demands and they never, they never come to peace. You just, you just come back for more war. And if you look at it, it's always escalated war. So are those folks in the thing, they're, you know, chanting Trump. And it's been amazing. I mean, Trump for the Nobel Prize, you know, they would elect Trump prime minister today if they could. Is that just because they're peace at any price and they see this as a deal that gets the hostages back and basically is a ceasefire.
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Joel Gilbert
Yeah.
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John Sopel
Steve, if you think about, if you think about Israel and you think about Tel Aviv as New York and you think of Jerusalem, maybe more like Dallas, or we could go to a state and say like Florida, there's sort of two big poll. You know, the two big cities are, you know, Jerusalem much more conservative, much more religious, Tel Aviv much more secular, much more left. I think to a degree what you're saying is true. There is a peace at any price crowd. And the conservatives in the country are concerned that Israel has been held hostage by the hostages. Meaning if you concede this point, like Israel has now, what's to just. You're now encouraging, like you said, Steve, the next bad guy is to just do it again, take more hostages. Because if you can hold the country hostage with hostages, why not repeat the behavior? That being said, there is a momentary optimism here where everybody's hoping that this is going to work and the president trying something different and getting the support of these Arab countries to try something different. On the optimism side, you see a lot of people saying that when I talk privately to people in the army and other sources like that, they're concerned that first of all, they're happy that Israel's getting a breather. And to your point, Steve, their concern is, is this just a chance for Hamas to move around, to regroup, to rearm, to go somewhere else, to try something else, and then we're back in the same situation again. That's the concern that you're seeing in the debate in the public.
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Steve Bannon
Hang on one second. I am going to go to commercial break. We're going to take commercial break. I got Joel Gilbert. I'm going to go back to Joel into Mark. They've been nice enough to stay with us and they got some important information from them I want to extract. But I want to go to the idf. You just mentioned it. And my sources and the folks I know there, the idf, as tough as it is and legendary it is, they're the first to admit, and I think this new chief of staff, that they've been pretty beaten up in this fight. Right? They weren't looking when a couple, four weeks ago, Netanyahu was talking about going into Gaza and getting all 2 million people out there was a little pushback. Right? Give me a minute on the idf, the historic role they pay, but they're a little bit punched out right now.
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John Sopel
Well, I mean, Steve, the idf, if you're a student of history, the IDF is built for quick, precision type of wars. It's not built for Vietnam. It's not built to get bogged down in sort of endless urban warfare. And I've got friends, Steve, who are in their 40s, some even in their 50s, who have been in the reserves for many, many months. Some people have been in the reserves for years. Hundreds of thousands of reservists got called up after October 7th. So people are exhausted. And again, among people on the right, the criticism is that they wish this thing and this whole thing had been done much quicker. Just fast, fast, fast. Go in, go in, go in. And, you know, we can talk about the reasons why, including the Biden administration dragging it out, but they're tired that you're definitely reading that.
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Joel Gilbert
Yeah.
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Steve Bannon
If you have to go through hell, what do we say on the show in the very first days after October 7th? If you have to go through hell, go through as quickly as possible. We're taking a short commercial break. Air Force One is on the tarmac at Andrews Air Force Base. It is prepped and fueled, ready to go to Israel and take the commander, chief of the United States Armed Forces and the president of the United States in his entourage also then to Egypt to a peace conference. Momentarily be leaving the White House and we're going to stick around until we go wheels up at Andrews. I'll take a short commercial break. Joel Gilbert, the filmmaker, and Mark Mitchell are correct, kind enough to join us on a Sunday afternoon. A little bit impromptu, too. We're going to be back at 2:00am Eastern Daylight Time to follow the president when he lands. Back in a moment.
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Steve Bannon
Farace. And you know Matt works with us all the time. We do the projects over at Angel. Great films. He was very close to Caviezel when we did the Caviezel movie and is a guy we worked very closely with. He said the Israeli people understand what the president is doing here. It's a roll of the dice. I would actually argue it's called in the old days roll of the iron dice. I'm going to get to Mark Mitchell a second for an answer to that. But I got to go to Joel Gilbert. Joel, Matt Farace just used the term if the president can get the moderate Arabs, the moderate Muslims to come along. Now, I have in the Daily Telegraph and a couple other places today talking about Jared and Wyckoff and particularly Jared and say, look, you've got to look. The reason this is different than others is that this, if you look on a continuum, when we first went to the Middle east, to Riyadh, Jerusalem, in Rome in 17, in the first six months of the president's, you know, presidency term, and we depict that order on purpose to go see the Muslim world first, then to go to Jerusalem and then to go to Rome, the two, you know, bedrocks of the Judeo Christian West. And it was this kind of search for Muslims who the Arab world, particularly the Gulf Emirates, to put business first. You look at what came out of that, the Abraham Accords, which is Jarrett was kind of the architect of that. But that's really a business deal. This is one of the reasons it hasn't gotten a lot of play, because the political reporters don't know what to deal with it. Jarrett looks at the world as is people that he deals with in places like places like Qatar and UAE and Saudi. They look at that area of the world as markets and logistics, trains and commercial flights, commercial relationships, capital markets, trade deals, tariffs. President just said the other day was tariffs, that he was able to browbeat some of these folks into doing this. So they look at this is a business arrangement like what's going to happen in Gaza. They look at a massive redevelopment to turn it into Tel Aviv. Tel Aviv's arguably the Miami beach of the Mediterranean. To take that beautiful waterfront in Gaza, turn it into Miami beach, put hundreds of billions of dollars into redevelopment. You already have 2 million Palestinians there, have a Turkish security guarantee. But it's a really a business deal and that this, this is why it's working. And this is how Trump thinks, because he's a businessman, but it's all based upon Muslims or the Arab world. That would put commercial interest ahead of cultural or religious interest. Does that really exist for anything? Is it, is it just ephemeral, or does it really exist in the Arab world and particularly in the Gulf Emirates?
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Joel Gilbert
Well, this theory has been tried by the Jews before the state of Israel was founded, and the state of Israel for over a hundred years, they thought they could buy off the Palestinian Arabs by providing hospitals, schools and jobs. And every time they tried this idea, it failed. Even when they gave the Palestinian Authority, they built a casino, of all things, in Jericho. And Shimon Peres would talk about, oh, they're just going to make so much money, they're going to be happy and give up their religious and nationalistic goals and values. And this idea has always ultimately fail. It's a mistake for Western leaders to think I'm looking for a liberal, conservative or moderate Muslim. These are Western concepts and Western ideas that don't fit in the Islamic world. In the Islamic world, you have only one political movement, only one. It's the movement of Islamism. It's existed for over 100 years, and it seeks to return to the core Islamic values of society and government. When Islam had its glory days, Western civilization had the opposite experience. Western civilization started to decline because of the conflict in religion between Protestants and Catholics. They came up with the Reformation and the concept of nationalism, which led to the Reformation and Europe going into modernity, and the Western culture spread throughout the world. In Islam, Islam was most successful when religion dominated governments only went into decline when Islam was overwhelmed by Western countries. So the movement of Islamism wants to put Islamic government back in place. Whenever you have a free election in Gaza, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Islamist parties always win. And it's a lack of understanding, looking for these economic deals that they think are going to solve the problems, thinking that they have the same, very same goals and values as we have in the West. So a lot of things are, are going to be playing out. These Gulf leaders are very strange people. You got to be suspicious of what they're up to. Qatar, for example, most people don't know that In Qatar, only 10% of the population are Qataris. It's 90% expatriate workers. So the Qatari royal family is always playing all sides. They buy off everybody. They give the United States a base. They pay off Hamas, they pay off the Muslim Brotherhood because they're so insecure and so paranoid. So these Gulf Arabs are just these family conglomerates that are hated by the Islamists, and they want to get rid of them. Osama bin Laden wanted to get rid of the Saudi royal family. So when they cut deals with these Gulf characters and the Egyptians, you're not going to get what you're looking for. And I think we have very tough times ahead.
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Steve Bannon
This is the.
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Joel Gilbert
Enjoy the celebration.
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Steve Bannon
We're talking about. We're, we're. You talk about. We want to open up the Kennedy files and we want to open up the UFO files and we want to have, you know, open up the 911 files. Well, on the 911 official report, I think there's 22 pages that are just blank. That 22 pages that are blank are about the Saudi royal family and exactly what Joel Gilbert's talking about. Also, Joel mentions the 30 year war. The 30 year war was so brutal, so catastrophic between the Catholics and Protestants and between Protestants and themselves that, you know, people at that time said, hey, we got to figure out something because the religious wars between the Catholics and the Protestants and the Protestants amongst themselves are going to destroy, going to destroy Europe. Mark Mitchell, with all that being said, with the euphoria in Israel, the president hurtling there, obviously his prestige on the line. Not just the prestige, but it's pretty obvious, I think to everybody that the president seems, appears to me to be not tired every day. But, you know, dealing with the Chinese Communist Party, major economic war, dealing with Ukraine, they want Tomahawk missiles to attack into, into, into deep into Russia, dealing with the insurrection here in the country and what he's had to do to fight the courts, everything. These are not small problems. Like I said, you could, we could curate the News. The top 25 stories would dominate the news cycle for a year. And yet Trump's juggling balls on this stuff every day. Matt Farace said the Israeli people are with President Trump on a roll of the dice. Do you think, given particularly your comment that our school's been taken over by essentially activists and so young people kind of don't really have a deep grounding in the Judeo Christian west and really our values. Do you think this roll of the dice is actually maybe a bigger gamble than everybody thinks right now?
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Mark Mitchell
Well, hopefully it clears the, the table of this issue because I think Trump immediately needs to get back to domestic policy stuff. And I think a lot of people look over there, remember the not sure responses for all of these questions that we asked were pretty high. Like people don't really understand what's going on in the Middle East. And overwhelmingly because of the crisis of trust and institutions, they think they're just being lied to about everything. I think it's the same here. Well, Donald Trump had a pretty high approval rating in the middle of June. And then what happened is we started getting involved in Israel and Iran and his approval rating started tanking. And people were overwhelmingly supportive of taking out Iran's nuclear program. But the reason that he got elected was because of economic concerns and because of a blowback of the Biden regime, overreach, weaponization of government and the collapsing trust. Now, seriously, that's like, what he should focus on in this. We asked the question, what's more important to you? Domestic terrorism or foreign terrorism? Domestic terrorism is way higher. It's like 60 to 20. So people look over there and say, well, I don't, I'm not even really that concerned about Islamic extremism anymore because the number one issue in America right now is fears of political violence. 90% are concerned about additional political killing. And so we have major problems here. And we talked about this like previously on the show. People are looking at the zoomers and thinking that they're going to come up and support Trumpism and be like the next generation of Republicans that we had because of a really strong conservative movement. And it is not the case. These people have lost hope. They're economically, you know, in the wilderness. All the jobs have been given to H1BS and sent overseas. They don't even believe in free market capitalism. They are not religious at all. The religion is plunging in America. We just asked the question, how religious are you? Only 24% of Americans say very religious. And then looking at the religion polling, it's like the people who go to mainline Protestant churches and a lot of Catholics, like, don't even really show that they sort of pass morality questions because, for instance, Protestants are seven times more likely than evangelical Christians to support late term abortions. And so everything, it's like we've talked about the fourth turning, but there's this other aspect I think basically of like how the Silicon Valley people say it, societal in shit ification. And everything has turned to the shit and it needs to be fixed. And it's not going to be fixed between like this paradigm of Republican policy versus Democrat policy. That's not where we're at now. The system's broken and needs to be rapidly reformed. And again, if the right's not going to do it, the left's going to have to do it.
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Steve Bannon
Do, do people make the connection that in trying to fix the system here, that the geopolitics of the world are very important so that President Trump doing what he's doing in the Middle East. And look, remember I gave the speech at the National Conservative Convention. I said, just like during the revolt in the desert that T.E. lawrence wrote about and actually drove and participated in, they said the Middle east was a sideshow to the Western front and that the Arab revolt was a sideshow to the sideshow, I say that the Middle east is a sideshow to the massive geopolitical issues we have in the Eurasian landmass, particularly the Chinese Communist Party and what's going on here in the United States. But do people see because President Trump, this is a time sink, there's no doubt about it. Plus, he's committed to be in the nations of the world tomorrow that are going to meet at the resort on the Red Sea have said Trump's got to be the chairman of the board of peace, which means he's going to oversee the, the, he's going to oversee Gaza essentially. Right now Tony Blair is supposed to be the executive director, but there's already huge push back on that. They all want Trump unanimous. They all have to have Trump. They don't want Tony Blair. We're going to take a break. Mark Mitchell is going to stick with me. Joel Gilbert, Joel Gilbert's going to stick with us. Kurt Mills is going to join us, maybe even poso. We're waiting for the president to leave in his motorcade out to Andrews, which is kind of bit little a logistics event all of its own. You see right there, Air Force One is on the is on the tarmac ready to go to take the president, the commander in chief, on his historic journey to Israel and then to Egypt. Short commercial break. We're going to turn in the war room on REAL America's Voice, continual coverage of this historic event. Back in a moment.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, let's go to the tarmac. If we can go to the tarmac out there. Here we come. Here comes the motorcade. I think that's the beast. Looks like they're heading in right now on on the tarmac at Andrews Air Force Base. President United States So, Mark Mitchell, let me have your voice as we watch the visual of the President and his entire entourage, his closest advisors head to the plane, Air Force One. The role of the dice. How dangerous the role of the dice is of a President Trump with the American people. Given he's only got like 2,000 other things he's working on, including a government shutdown.
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Mark Mitchell
Again, I think he needs to refocus on why he got elected and the Middle east is not why he got elected. Now China is. China absolutely is. The American people aren't stupid and we are economically very, very, very, very entangled with China. And we've asked a lot of questions about this. One of them is, is China an enemy or an ally of the United States? And nobody ever really said ally, but right in the first Trump term, the number of people who said that China was an enemy skyrocketed. We got to the point where enemy was winning 50 to 10%. So American voters were five times as likely as China is an enemy.
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Steve Bannon
We're do, we're, we're, we're doing, we're doing our job. It's not China or the Chinese people. It's the ccp. Hang on for one second, Mark. I just. The President's about to get out under the COVID right there of the President is. Did the President just go back to the media? We may have a gaggle. Let's see if we can get a microphone on this right now.
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Mark Mitchell
This is going to be a good one.
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Steve Bannon
So this is going to be a very special time. And I guess if you read your own papers and your own networks, everybody's very excited about this moment in time.
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Mark Mitchell
So I'll see you on the plane.
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Steve Bannon
I think you're traveling with us. But this is a very special event. They had 500,000 people yesterday and today in Israel. And also the Muslim and Arab countries are all cheering. Everybody is cheering at one time. That's never happened before. Usually if you have one cheering the other isn't.
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Mark Mitchell
The other is the opposite.
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Steve Bannon
This is the first time. Everybody is amazed and they're thrilled and it's an honor to be involved and we're going to have an amazing time. And it's going to be something that's never, never happened before.
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Mark Mitchell
So I'll see you on the plane.
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Steve Bannon
And we're gonna have a good time. Okay, Peter, nice to see you. Thank you, everybody. See you in a little while. Okay, The President with a short mini gaggle, he is now going to.
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Joel Gilbert
Go.
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Steve Bannon
Up the front entrance to Air Force One, which is the special, special interest for the President, United States. We'll see him enter. Got a long flight to Jerusalem, or in this case, I guess to the airport in Tel Aviv. There's the President. Mark Mitchell, quick. We're going to keep our coverage to the President goes, gets airborne. There's some rest of the staff going up right now in our camera feed. Mark, everyone is cheering in the Middle East. That's correct. And I think the polling shows that there's tremendous support for the President's efforts right now. Sir.
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Mark Mitchell
Yeah, they were mixed on whether or not he'd be able to get a peace deal. Last week. But this is one of his better issues. We asked if he's doing, you know, how good a job he's doing on the. On the issue of Israel, and it was 44% excellent plus good, which is higher than Joe Biden got rated ever on anything, including his best issue, national security. But again, people don't really know what's going on over there. I don't think it really affects them. It's been made to affect them. But let's acknowledge that there's been an exchange talking about retaliatory tariffs on China of 100% in this trade war that just ends escalated, and we are so entangled with them. Like, 70% of the SKUs on Amazon and Walmart are basically sourced in China. We have. They're the second Highest source of H1BS in the United States. They have hundreds of thousands of students here on Visa. And I mean, we've just built America on our relationship with the Chinese, Even though even 10 years ago we asked a question and Americans said no, what happens economically is what's in the best interest of China, not the Americans, by almost 8 out of 10.
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Steve Bannon
Wow.
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Mark Mitchell
And so they know that this is a problem. They say that China's our number one foreign adversary. Now, the number one and two adversaries ahead of China are the Republican and the Democrat Party, unfortunately. But we have a major issue here.
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Steve Bannon
Yeah, go ahead. Hang on one second. I got footage right there of Air Force One person's about to leave. We are going to toss at the bottom of the hour momentarily. We're going to toss at the bottom of the hour to Cowboy Logic in progress. Let me go to Kurt Mills. Kurt, quickly, right there, the President said everyone's cheering. They are cheering. What does this mean overall, particularly tomorrow when he goes to Israel first, talks to the Knesset, meets the hostage, then he goes to over to Egypt where the peace conference is. Sir?
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John Sopel
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Kurt Mills
I think this has the potential to be a mega day for President Trump, Potentially the best day since his last trip to the Middle east in mid May. It's a holiday weekend. A lot of Americans are off and a lot of Americans haven't been fully paying attention to what's going on in the Middle East. They know that bombs are flying, they know the deals are failing. And Trump, amidst basically the entire region's leaders, will announce what appears to be a watershed deal brokered at the 11th hour by him and his team to, you know, cease hostilities on this. Now, there's people nipping at the edges of this, hardliners in Israel, those who would want to see it scuttled in the sort of terroristic parts of the Islamic world. But in general, Trump has brought forward a agreement to end this war and he is going to try to not so much spike the football tomorrow, but throw it into the end zone.
- [101:33]
Steve Bannon
Do you think that that fully understands that we the outcome of this will be a two state solution, that a proto Palestinian state is going to be created. Gaza with 2 million Palestinians, full financing from Qatar, UAE and Saudi Arabia and to top it off, a security force of the Turks. Sir?
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Kurt Mills
Yeah, I think the Islamic world is on on board. There was even murmurs overnight of a potential Iranian delegation to this meeting in Egypt. It looks like they're not going to send their president, but they might send their foreign minister. I continue to hope that that happens because facetime with this president could event prevent a war with Iran. The only potential people who could scupper this deal, could scuttle this deal are hardliners in Israel and Netanyahu. The Prime Minister has said certain things in Hebrew, not in English that indicates that he doesn't think this is necessarily a done deal. And extreme neoconservative voices like Lindsey Graham, the South Carolina senator appeared on Meet the Press this morning saying he's not sure it's a done deal either. But these are radicals, these are extremists. They shouldn't be overlooked, but they should be ignored.
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Steve Bannon
Well, what about Hamas also? They got a couple of three bad hombres there that are, that are still want to go to the guns right away.
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Joel Gilbert
Right? For sure.
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Kurt Mills
But I mean Hamas has agreed to this deal. I mean they are basically, I mean the ruling cadre that did October 7th have all been assassinated. Yahweh, Sidwar, Mohammed Al Deif, even the political leadership, Ismail Haniyeh was killed under Ron in 24. This is basically a working group of six to seven people, old school Hamas operatives. These are not necessarily the hardliners of Hamas itself. They want to see this war end as much as anyone. It appears they're exhausted. They have no play here. And right now is a piece of paper they can sign to potentially disarm, sort of place bland into the Palestinian population and avoid having their people be jettisoned to Libya or Europe or the U.S. and if you're thinking legacy for these people, that's about as good.
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Kurt Mills
This is gonna get right now.
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Steve Bannon
Kurt, thank you for jumping on your and changing your schedule up. Hopefully we'll get you in the live 2:00'. Clock. What's your coordinates right now so people can keep up with all your analysis?
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Kurt Mills
Yeah, we're at WW the American Conservative.com and then we are also at my own work is at at Curt Mills on X.
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Steve Bannon
Amazing. Hopefully get you in the middle of the night. Thank you sir. Mark Mitchell, Same, same. What are your coordinates and your YouTube channel? You are on fire, brother. Nobody knows the fourth tourney and the implications better than the team at Rasmussen. And Mark Mitchell, where do folks go?
- [107:21]
Mark Mitchell
Yeah, I think it's going to be a wild ride. Rasmussen underscore poll at YouTube, also at Twitter and my personal account is at Honest Pollster. And yeah, I have some pretty hot takes usually.
- [107:32]
Steve Bannon
One thing I can tell you that's money. Good. It's going to be a wild ride. That is going to be. That's why people are. Stay tuned. Mark Mitchell, thank you for taking your Sunday afternoon and and joining Real America's Voice historic coverage of this historic event. Thank you sir. We're going to be back at 2am Eastern Daylight Time for at least four hours when everybody, all the Warren posse, make sure you go to bed early, get up, put a big pot of Warpath coffee on and join us. Joel Gilbert, filmmaker. Where do people get your films? Where they get your writings, your analysis? The Middle east is second to none. And most importantly right now you are on Big Tish James like nobody's business. All the news media is following you and your assessment. Where do people go to get it all?
- [108:20]
Joel Gilbert
Joel, there's a couple of Middle east films I made over the years. Atomic Jihad in Farewell Israel, my corporate site, all my films, Highway 61 Ent for entertainment, Highway61Ent.com and Joel S. Gilbert on Twitter. And I still am concerned that Hamas is controlling this entire event, that they may seek to renegotiate stuff at the last second. So I don't necessarily trust those guys that it's all a done deal.
- [108:47]
Steve Bannon
Yeah, we're going to watch Air Force One to go wheels up. Then we're going to turn over to the great cowboy logic. Joel, real quickly as we wait for it. Don't you believe that the sponsors, I mean Qatar, when Qatar and Saudi Arabia and UAE say hey, we're in and it's going to Be our money. Isn't Hamas and even the Palestine, aren't they just a local franchisee? Particularly Hamas is the local franchisee for the Muslim Brotherhood, don't they? Without Qatar, they're nothing.
- [109:14]
Joel Gilbert
Not really. I mean, Qatar's been paying off radical Muslims to ensure their own survival because they're a very small minority, small family. Let me tell you what Hamas is thinking. Yahasse Sinwar was in Israeli prisons for 22 years. He got out in the Shalit deal. They let out a thousand terrorists for One Israeli soldier, 2011, and he took over Hamas and started this war. Hamas is thinking the new group of terrorists coming out of prison today or tomorrow, they're going to be the new leaders of Hamas and they're going to continue their war. So I don't think that this thing is over. I don't think Hamas is going to disarm. I'm not even sure the President of the United States should be flying to the Middle east knowing that it all depends on Hamas coming up with these hostages. So I'm very skeptical about what's going on.
- [110:04]
Steve Bannon
Wow. Do you anticipate, before I let you go real quickly, you anticipate Hamas may ever try to play three card money and not release all 20 hostages?
- [110:13]
Joel Gilbert
I think they're right now negotiating for higher level terrorists like Barghouti and for the guy that murdered for Sadat, that murdered one of the Israeli cabinet ministers. I think they're not controlled by Qatar and they're looking forward to a renaissance. They didn't mind that all their leaders were killed because just like Sinwar, they're going to get a new group of leadership out of Israeli prisons. That's the game they're playing and I don't think anybody understands that.
- [110:43]
Steve Bannon
It's 2,000 prisoners, my understanding, and included in the 2,000, I think are 250 of the top prisoners, terrorists. Am I correct in that? That they got a list of like the top 250, then it's another, you know, 1900 and some of bad guys, bad hombres, but they got like 250 of their top guys are part of this deal. That's who they're getting back. Am I correct?
- [111:04]
Joel Gilbert
Yeah, we're gonna see, we're gonna see all these people back in the leadership of Hamas like nothing happened. And they're not gonna give up their weapons and you're gonna have this cabal of Gulf states with Qatar and Turkey demanding that Israel hands off Gaza and they're going to try to use Trump and the American troops to prevent Israel from acting against Hamas and start to demand their diplomatic strategy against Israel that Sadat started in 77. They're going to start demanding that Israel withdraw from Jerusalem and the west bank, create a Palestinian state. And if you do that, we're going to give you peace. But again, as we spoke earlier, it's peace on Islamic terms. Peace on Islamic terms requires the domination of Islam over Jews, not an equal state relationship. So enjoy the euphoria for the next 24 hours because I think it's going to be all downhill after that.
- [111:58]
Steve Bannon
Do you last thing, the 200 troops we talked about, I got assurances that they were not there was a misread by Morning Joe that they're actually not only not going to go to Gaza, they're not going to Israel. They're going to do everything. Remote coordination. And this used to be Mo's job in the Army, a logistics officer. Of course, hers was not remote. They went into Iraq. They had to be in close. So it's kind of odd to do it to coordinate. But is that the type of thing you think put American troops in there and get them in between in some tough situation between Israeli forces? And here we go, right down the Runway and we're going to do a hard break. I tell you what, Joel, I'll get that question to you maybe in the middle of night just one more time. We'll give you what's your, what's your coordinates?
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Joel Gilbert
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Steve Bannon
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