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Baron Coleman
Welcome in, welcome in, welcome in, guys. We've had a never ending crash out today from Andrew Colvette. Yes, a never ending crash out. I don't know if you got to see it. I don't know if his job's in jeopardy, if his liberty's in jeopardy. I have no idea what's going on with this guy. I have rarely, if ever seen, seen a PR professional crash out like Mr. Colvett has done over the last, I don't know, 18 hours or so. It's been bad. It's been really, really bad, you know, hard. Hardcore drinkers do this when they get a little out of control. They get manic. Drug users sometimes do this. I'm not accusing him of either. He might just be undisciplined. But we will examine that as the time arises to do so. But welcome in, welcome in, welcome in. We're going to have a big, big show review. I spent a good chunk of the day reviewing the preliminary hearing from Utah. I had one goal in mind. I wanted to scale the mountain. I was promised a mountain of evidence. I was told there would be mountains of evidence. There's a mountain of evidence. I didn't see the mountain, if I'm being honest. I saw no mountain. I saw grainy footage. I saw hearsay. I saw. I didn't say it, but he said, I saw a lot of. Trust me, bro, I saw no mountains. I don't know when the mountains are coming. Maybe they're small mountains. Maybe we're quite literally making mountains out of mole hills. But I'll be honest. Not only did the government not show anything that would even approach reasonable doubt at a regular trial, I think if the judge had to rule based on today alone, how could you even, how could you even find that it continues on to a trial? I mean, that was ludicrous. And we will go through some of it. We'll go through some of it, including cameras not working. Well, tell me, stop me if you've heard this one before. Next thing you're going to tell me is that Jeffrey Einstein's camera stopped working in the. In the Manhattan Correctional center facility right as he took his own life.
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Officer Bagley
Oh.
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Baron Coleman
Next thing you're going to tell me is the camera above Tyler Robinson while he was eating a steak at the Penguin Steakhouse. That stopped. Oh, yeah, both of those things are true as well. And the cops body cam stopped working. Guys, there's a bunch we've got to go through. There's a bunch we got to go through. I do want to set the stage. It is day one, and I've kind of shied away from. From trial coverage, or I don't say trial coverage because pretty much a lot of what we've done the last 10 months has been preparation for the trial. But I've shied away from kind of a blow by blow of daily court hearings. And I'm going to violate that a little bit today because I thought there were several interesting things that needed to be covered. So we will start at the beginning and we will work our way through. I have a good opening that I did not. I kind of been holding it in the tank. I wasn't sure when I wanted to do this opening. But today was the day. Today was the day. We had the Colvet crash out that necessitated the opening, but we also had Stacy Sheridan and her two girls show up. Well, that was kind of harsh perhaps, but Stacy Sheridan showed up for the trial. She, she, all of her showed up for the trial and all, and, and very little of it was covered. And so she, she sort of had handler vibes. Andrew Colvette all day is basically admitted to having handler vibes. And so it was the perfect day to talk about handlers, particularly handlers. When it comes to assets that don't know they're being handled. This is something specific to the spycraft arena, but it is not rare. It happens quite a bit. And today seems like a perfect day to talk about it, because in the terms of spycraft, a handler is someone who directs an operation and they do it on behalf of a principal. Rarely is the handler the organization that wants something done. They usually hire some sort of an in between. It's typically an intelligence agency, but it can be any kind of an organization. The person being controlled by the handler is called an asset. And it's entirely possible, and in fact, it's quite operationally common for someone to function as a handler while the asset remains completely or largely unaware he's being handled. In these scenarios, the agency or the organization still treats the interaction as a managed intelligence operation. But externally it relies on deception, it relies on intermediaries, and it's, it's. It's accomplished through manipulation, sometimes subtle manipulation. The asset in this situation that we're talking about, where the handler is not known to be a handler, from the perspective of the asset, it's. It's sometimes called an unconscious agent or a floater or an unwitting asset. And what we have here is an unwitting asset in this situation that will provide valuable information and perform useful actions. All, all While not realizing they're assisting any kind of intelligence service or any other kind of organization. For example, an unwitting asset might believe he's talking to a journalist. He might believe he's talking to an employee or an employer. He might believe he's talking to some sort of a consultant or even a romantic interest. The unwitting asset believes his interactions with the handler are benign, nothing more than participating in some kind of normal professional or personal relationship. But because the handler is working with an unwitting asset, the handler then extracts information, and they do it through a series of elicitation techniques rather than direct questioning. You know, in a typical spy situation, you would just sit the asset down and say, what'd you learn today? Well, you can't do that if the asset is an unwitting asset. So these subtle conversational methods rely on the exploitation of human psychology. And it can happen through a number of techniques. The handler can flatter the unwitting asset. And that happens. You, you know, you praise his expertise. You, you encourage him to share more. You really build him up. You, you just gas him up, and the asset just loves it. Most people cannot resist flattery. The handler can share exciting or interesting information, and the handler will share a small piece of information, and hopefully that will trigger the unwitting asset to reciprocate in a big way and really divulge a great deal of information. The handler might make provocative or false statements, even about a topic. And then the unwitting asset cannot resist the urge to correct the record. That's the best way to get the truth on any kind of social media is to make an incorrect statement. People will fall all over themselves to correct you, and then you get your answer. But if you just ask for the answer, it goes unheard. No one, no one gives a rip. So you pretend to have this limited knowledge, and it can warm up the unwitting asset to give better explanations, detailed explanations. And then there's everyone's favorite trap. It is so irresistible. It's. It's probably more irresistible than flattery. And that's gossip. A handler can build quite a bit of rapport with an unwitting asset through gossiping about some juicy topics. And these techniques are often deployed, and they. They're ongoing. They, they, they're ongoing. They sometimes last years, sometimes decades. And that way, the target never really feels interrogated. Handler relationships can be pretty complex. Sometimes they use cutouts, or layers of separation might be employed, and that ensures the handler remains available. If the unwitting asset cuts off the relationship or starts to move in different circles. A handler may never meet the asset directly. Instead, the handler may use intermediaries who they themselves may be witting or unwitting assets. Organizations can use these unwitting assets for a lot of reasons. There is, frankly, a lower operational risk, and there's a reduced chance of the asset defecting or being turned if the asset doesn't know he's an asset. It's also clean, very clean. It's cleaner for the handler. It's cleaner for the handler's organization because it gives them plausible deniability if the operation is exposed or goes south. And there are some people, perhaps most people, who just won't accept the role of being an asset. It's a little deceptive. And so using unwitting assets gives handlers access to all these targets who would never knowingly work with intelligence communities or even some other organization who wants to exploit them or use them. But internally, from the perspective of the organization, there's not a lot of difference whether using a witting or unwitting asset. The handler still validates the asset, the handler still tasks the asset with accomplishing certain objectives, and the handler still reports the intelligence up the chain. The asset's simply unaware of the full context. The asset doesn't know the handler's true affiliation or role. And because we're talking about sensitive operations, detailed examples are pretty sparse. But they're known. They're known. We have clear patterns. We have documented cases, particularly during the Cold War, and there's some examples from modern corporate espionage. But this is the spy craft. This is a trade craft that's taught in the community. During the Cold War, for example, both the west and the Soviets, they extensively used unwitting assets. They sometimes referred to these unwitting assets as useful idiots. These useful idiots were nothing more than individuals going about their ordinary lives, but who either advanced a cause or maybe shared information without realizing they were being manipulated. The KGB ran very sophisticated active measures, and they would plant disinformation, and they would do it in obscure publications. And they were using unwitting journalists or activists. And then they would amplify those messages in the mainstream media. There was a guy named Oleg Kalugin, a former KGB officer, who described operations that exploited genuine social grievances in the United States. Things like racial tensions or equal rights for women. They would forge documents or letters. They would inflame divisions, and they would know that unwitting reporters and activists would spread the material. They couldn't help themselves. It advanced their cause. Journalists and Academics were pretty frequent targets of unwitting conduits. There was a famous commentator named Walter Littman. Walter Lippmann had a secretary named Mary Price. Turns out Mary Price was a Soviet agent. Mary Price accessed and copied Lippmann's materials from his files. He had no knowledge of it. And what she gave to her hand, to her organization was valuable insight, and she just passed it up the chain. Lippman himself met with individuals that were later identified as Soviet intelligence officers. And he did it under journalistic cover. He remained unaware of their true roles until the operation was exposed. Similar dynamics played out with other influential writers and thinkers. Political figures who served as unwitting sources of context, access or even documents in influence and disinformation operations. This foreign and domestic cultivation of networks. I don't want to say people who believed they were engaging in legitimate political or culture exchange, but people who were doing it, whether they believed it or not, they became unwitting assets. And that unwitting asset was for the purpose of propaganda or even intelligence collection. In more recent decades, economic and technical technological espionage has seen a significant rise in unwitting assets. You had Chinese intelligence services. They've been linked to operations where scientists, engineers, even executives of big companies were invited to conferences. They were paid for speaking engagements, they collaborated on projects. In China. Unwitting assets often shared technical details because they thought they were just participating in normal conversation. And these are just a few of the well known examples where the operation was exposed and the handlers and unwitting assets were identified. What they do is they illustrate a core truth. A core truth of this type of spycraft. Effective handling does not require the assets. Awareness, deception, psychological subtlety, real compartmentalization. They allow handlers to extract value, and while they're doing it, they maintain the operation, secrecy and value. The asset may never learn the truth, or they may only discover it years into the operation, even sometimes after the operation has concluded. The consequences of an unwitting asset uncovering the operation can be disastrous. The unwitting asset may begin to evaluate all of his interactions in his entire life, interactions with the suspected handler or handlers. He may even grow suspicious of nearly everyone around him. It's a profound breach of trust. And profound breaches of trust often come with widespread fallout. And that's because the handler's role is fundamentally about control and collection. And this control in collection comes within a very high stakes environment, a very secretive environment. So while he was an unwitting agent, the unwitting agent provided safe and plausibly deniable access. But when that safety and plausible deniability evaporates, the handler and the handler's organization must take decisive action. They have to protect the operation at all costs. And in spycraft, we know sometimes assets must be neutralized or liquidated to protect the operation. And that is your opening statement. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I do. I mentioned it today because I am beyond convinced Charlie was an unwitting asset. Period. End of story. You'll never convince me otherwise. Particularly after Andrew Colvett's crash out today and particularly with the arrivals of different people at the courthouse. It was a very strange set of arrivals. I want to start with. I'll get to Andrew's crash out in a minute. I want to start with just the arrivals. We have some video footage of different people arriving at the courthouse at different times. This is Andrew, excuse me, Erica Kirk arriving. You'll notice she comes in a side door or a back door. I predicted this to several that she would not walk into the front door. And I think that's probably smart. I think that's probably smart to take a high profile figure who is the basically victim in this case as recognized by the state of Utah, and allow her to come in the side door. I have no problem in the world with that. I know a lot of people have been over backward, been, been out of shape, I think is a better way to explain it. Me, not so much. This one bit me out of shape. This one bent me out of shape. This is the arrival of Charlie Kirk's parents. I want you to see how they arrive. I think I got this from Brandy Siciliani. I'm trying to give people credit, I don't know where I got the first one. I want you to watch how they arrive and I want you to pay particular person a particular attention to this tallish blonde lady with the angry haircut and no top. Or at least she has a top on, but only half of a top. I want you to pay attention to her and how she acts now she's sitting there waiting for Charlie's parents like she's been there. She got dropped off already. She could have gone into the courthouse. She was invited, presumably, but she doesn't go in. She waits in the parking lot for Charlie's parents. It really doesn't say anything, but she just stands there and her Erica Kirk seven year old haircut. And here come Charlie's parents. Charlie's dad's the bald headed fella in the charcoal business suit. His mother obviously the one she's holding now look at. Look at Stacy Sheridan reach out to grab the dad, and the dad just blows by her. And notice how Stacey Sheridan is not wearing courtroom attire. She's wearing stripper attire. I don't understand. Who dressed that woman this morning? Ladies and gentlemen, I've been in a lot of courtrooms. The girls usually are put away before you go into the courtroom. That's just my. I'm just accustomed to that. And I've seen people wear Philadelphia Eagles jerseys in the courtrooms, but their boobs aren't hanging out like they put them away before they go in. They might wear a Philadelphia Eagles jersey, but it covers the cleavage. Not Stacy Sheridan. I don't know what message she's sending and to whom, but that's how she chose to go into the courthouse today. It just shocked me when I saw it. I thought, oh, this is what the day is going to be like. I thought, this is going to be pretty mundane. No, we got soft core porn. Okay, hold please. Hold, please. We've got more. We have Erica's family, her mother and father, and her. During the testimony, when it got particularly tense at an early juncture, we see them exit the courtroom. I'm a little surprised by this because I thought that they were told. They. I thought they told the crowd they couldn't come and go. Except it breaks. That's pretty standard in a courtroom.
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Katherine Nester
The media was not going to film exhibits.
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Baron Coleman
There goes Erica, and they are filming
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Katherine Nester
the ones that are on that screen.
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Baron Coleman
Other people are. That girl kind of looks like her, so I'm thinking she's related somehow. I don't know if this is her sister, her niece, her. I don't know who these people are. I think this blonde girl in the front may be her sister. I went and looked up a picture of her sister today, and it kind of looks like her. This. This kind of looks like it could be a niece. And I guess that would make this kid a nephew. Maybe need to clarify that, but I don't know. I don't know. But. So they kind of came and went and the judge was gracious and he said, you know what? She's going to be treated like the victim. Well, I understand she's able to kind of come and go, but, you know, to exit a whole row from a courtroom, it's a little distracting in the middle of the courthouse. So I don't know how the judge is going to handle that going forward. We also got word today, ladies and gentlemen, and for reasons I cannot explain, reasons I will never understand, we heard that There was potentially Secret Service in the courthouse because Don Jr. Showed up. Donald Trump Jr. Is inside the Provo, Utah courtroom for the preliminary hearing in the murder of Charlie Kirk, per our Fox reporter. Inside, this is Matt Finn, who is basically like a giant simp for Erica. It's really shameless how he kind of covers it case, but I don't hold that too much against him. Who else showed up? Sergeant Shekels showed up. It's unbelievable. This is why I thought we were going to get a mountain of evidence. I thought we were going to get a mountain because Officer Tater Tots was there. Yes, Officer Tater Tots was there. Let me see if I can blow this up. I don't want to make it too small for you here. That's probably all I'm going to be able to get. Brandon Tatum looking like he's on Ozempic here. We'll watch this one first as a very Ozempified Brandon Tatum walking in. And then on this side we have Agent Poso, Jack Posobic walking it. So a little weird, if I'm being honest. Like, this isn't a wedding, you know, had a little red carpet feel to it. I was expecting people to like Agent Jack. Agent Jack. Jack Posobic. By the way, someone pointed this out. I can't remember who pointed it out, but I went and fact checked it and it's true. Jack Posobic was a Navy intel officer. That's fine. Everybody's allowed to be a Navy intel officer. But he also went to work for Steve Bannon after he left the Navy Intel Service. At the time, Steve Bannon was buddying up with Jeffrey Einstein of the Einstein Files in Einstein island fame. I don't know if that has anything to do with anything. That's like two degrees of separation. It's pretty close.
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Officer Bagley
Pretty close.
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Baron Coleman
I don't think I'm 2 degrees separated from the man, but maybe others are. And so I want to give you a little overview of kind of what I saw today. And then I want to talk to you very briefly about the purpose of these hearings, why they exist in the first place. But I want to give an overview of the judge. Judge Tony Graff has gotten a lot of grief and a lot of people think he's just a little too buddy buddy with the prosecution. A little rules a little too harshly against the criminal defendant. I did not find that today. And granted, it's just day one. I didn't watch all of it, but I thought he was fairly neutral. He may have given a Little attitude to the prosecution. He did rule against him when it was particularly egregious one time. I do have one clip I want to play of the judge, though this was frankly a little shocking when I saw it. He was watching the footage of Charlie being taken down. I got the volume off here. He was watching the footage of Charlie being taken down. And pull the volume off, watch his reaction when it happens and then I'll raise a question. But I want you to watch it first. You'll know when it happens there. So that was it. And you can see he's clearly disturbed. I mean those were involuntary movements of his seat sitting up, sitting back. And then his eyes, he had that thousand yard stare afterwards. I want you guys to go back to the first time you saw it, because I don't know that he had seen it before. I want you to go back to the first time you'd seen it. I made a bigger reaction than that. I was sitting in this very chair. I was talking to a friend of mine I've known for 15 plus years, a very active political figure who called me to let me know about it. And we were on the phone and I was, I was thinking, it can't have been that bad, you know, because the first image I saw was the very far away image. It was the first kind of video that circulated about the whole thing. And you really couldn't see what happened. You couldn't see any of the, the gore, you couldn't see the location of anything. You just saw kind of the shirt move and him like them push him over. And so it kind of looked like he may have gotten winged maybe in the shoulder or something, you know, like jerked and then fell over. And I thought, well, we'll see how it goes. And so I start looking around and think, is there a better angle? I shouldn't have. And I've watched it a thousand times in, in, in preparation for different shows and just trying to figure out what happened. But I wish I could wipe it out of my head when this is all over. That's not something people should see. No one should watch someone be taken out like that. And I remember just gasping when it happened. I was on speakerphone because I don't hear well. I can't hold the phone to my ears. But I was on speakerphone, I was like. And he goes, what? What, what, what, what? And I said, don't watch it. He goes, I won't. I said, don't. Whatever you do, don't watch this, please. It was that, that shot we've all seen from right up front. And I can imagine if the judge is seeing this for maybe the first time or a new angle for the first time, having that reaction, that little flinch. Props to him for not doing what I did and gasping like a nine year old girl. Because I did, I absolutely did. But it gave me insight into this judge. If that truly was the first time he'd seen it or he hadn't seen it very often and it truly shocked him to the core. And that wasn't just good acting. And it didn't look like good acting. It looked like it was the first time he'd seen it. Props to the judge for not doing what we tell everyone not to do. And they immediately go out and do you swear in a jury? And the judge says, all right, you guys are now the jury. Do not look at anything in this case. Don't go on the Internet, don't read the local newspapers, don't watch the local news. You're only going to hear about this case inside this courtroom. And the first thing they do at break, you can watch them. They're all on their phones looking up Twitter and Facebook and local news coverage and message board. I mean, you, it just, it's human nature. It's human nature. You want to know as much as possible. There's always this fomo. I, there got to be information they're not letting us have. It doesn't look like the judge did that in this case. And all I can do is take my hat off to him and say, if Judge Graff, if you truly just watched that for the first time or one of the very few times you've ever seen that. Props to you, sir. Genuinely, I mean that, because it tells me he's taking his job seriously. And I don't know if that's true or not, that maybe, maybe he was a good actor, maybe he's a good actor. But for those of us who've seen that over and over and over, we don't have that reaction. We just don't have that reaction. And so that's kind of my thought on the judge. He, he did an okay job. Know, like I said, gave a little, perhaps too much latitude to the prosecution, but it's the prosecution's day. The bar is very low. We know how he's going to rule. Anyway, this is a, this is. Candace called it a show trial or a show hearing on X. It kind of is. It kind of is. You can indict almost anybody or, or whatever. I don't know. Indictments More of a grand jury term. But you can, you can, you can press charges, you can proceed to trial. You can what against anyone? Like the bar is that low? You just have to, like, honestly, this is how low the bar is today. If they would have just shown up and said, we interviewed somebody who said he did it and they saw him and they were like, all right, you're going to trial. You've got an eyewitness. Like, you don't have to have any more than that hearsay of someone who you said saw it. That's enough. That's enough. Now. Did we even get that today? Well, we'll cover that in a minute because next I want to talk about the prosecution defense. There was a lot of discussion for the last 10 months of whether the defense is sandbagging Tyler Robinson. I don't think they are. I thought they did a pretty good job today. They were prepared, but I think the prosecution was prepared. I think they were competent. They knew the rules, they knew their objections. They objected at the appropriate times. They didn't object it times that were inappropriate. The defense's cross examination of the one witness was particularly good. I thought, I don't know that. I mean, there was one time she asked kind of a follow up question that I, in hindsight, I bet even she wishes she hadn't asked because it sort of let him wiggle out of testimony. Probably would have been cleared up on a redirect anyway. But you know, you let them, make them work, don't clear it up for them. And there was one time where he asked a question, I was like, oh, don't ask that. Let them go back and clean it up. But, but whatever, you know, I'm not going to argue with them over it. They did a good job today. It was not a bad job. Now let me get into just a minute or two because I, I have to. I have to, because people don't know what a preliminary trial is. A preliminary hearing is. This is not a trial. The standard here is not reasonable doubt. The purpose of this is not to determine whether Tyler Robinson is guilty or innocent. It's not to determine whether he will get the death penalty or life in prison. That's not what was done today. A preliminary hearing is a limited pretrial screening process. All you're trying to do is determine whether probable cause exists. In other words, do you think the prosecution can make a good faith effort to. And not going to waste the judicial time and not going to unnecessarily keep this guy against his will in Jail waiting on this trial, Are they going to be able to produce at least enough evidence for a jury to consider, even if it's not great? That's it. That's all that's happening here. Now, the, the defense for their case can challenge the evidence in these preliminary hearings, but it's not going to the sufficiency of the evidence. There's not going to the weight of the evidence. It's going to the sufficiency. As long as the judge determines the evidence is sufficient to clear that hurdle, nothing the defense said really matters. And I heard this a lot from people saying it seems like they're conceding a gunshot. Well, who cares? There's no jury here. They don't have to go through every theory. All they have to do is try to knock out the sufficiency of given witnesses. And I think they did a pretty good job today. And I'll go through some of that in just a minute. I don't want to go line by line, but we'll go through some of the highlights. Now, what is the standard we talked about? And in a trial, I'm going to come way up here almost absolutely certain, like, almost no doubt. Now, reasonable doubt, you can have weird doubt, like, you know, maybe Charlie had a heart attack and it burst his neck open. Okay. You know, I don't have to rule that out. Like, that's. As a prosecutor, that's not my job. I don't have to rule out stuff like that. We're just talking about reasonable stuff. Was there another shooter? Was he killed by another means other than a gun? Was. Was Tyler Robinson the guy who did it? Was it someone else? Like, that's. Those are the only doubts I have to rule out as a, As a prosecutor. That's reasonable doubt. That's trial. Here, I don't have to enter. I don't even have to deal with all that stuff. I don't have to even rule out all this in between here and here. I just have to kind of get to a middle ground. Just, you know, kind of. Is it more likely than not? I mean, that's a pretty safe way to say it. And as long as you can get there, he's going to trial. And I'm. I don't want to spoil the surprise by the end of the week, but they're going to trial. I mean, I just cannot imagine a scenario where this judge is not going to let this go to trial. So what about the rules of evidence? Because I, I was. I was watching several feeds today. I watched probably Eight different feeds of people covering this, and probably half of them did not understand why some evidence was coming in. They kept saying, hey, this is hearsay. It shouldn't be coming in. And at trial it won't. But at the preliminary stage, it will, at least in Utah. Utah has a weird quirk. It's called 1102, and it's embedded into their constitution. And this 1102 rule that they have says that at the preliminary stage, they don't have to abide by the rules of evidence. For evidence that's going to go in front of a jury, they're allowed to use what's called reliable hearsay. The judge is the one who determines whether it's reliable. Not the prosecution, not the defense. They can both make arguments. And I think the defense made good arguments today that some of the hearsay wasn't reliable. The judge let it in anyway. But regardless. Well, there were two instances where he didn't. But regardless, they. I thought they did a pretty good job of at least laying a foundation, a record to review on appeal in the event Tyler loses. And that's. That's their job. Because you kept hearing over and over, the defense would make this unconstitutional hearsay. Objection. And. And I. I saw all over X. I saw in different feeds, all the comment sections, everyone said, what is this unconstitutional hearsay? Objection. If the judge has already ruled on it, why do they keep raising it? Here's why. We talked about Miranda a few weeks ago. Miranda rights that you have a right to remain silent. Do you know how many people raised the issue before the Supreme Court finally considered it and ruled in favor of Miranda against Arizona? Thousands, maybe tens of thousands of criminal trials. People went in front of the judge and said, judge, my guy confessed, but they didn't tell him he had a right to remain silent. And the judge said, there's no requirement to remain silent. And they said, well, we're raising a constitutional objection. It violates his Fifth Amendment right to remain silent that he's not aware of his right. And the judges would say, there's no one telling us we have to issue this, so we're not going to. Well, eventually, one day, one of those cases, actually four, made it to the Supreme Court. They combined them. They called it Miranda versus Arizona. But I think it was three or four different cases that were kind of smushed together, all examining the same issue. If a guy confesses but didn't know he didn't have to, do we have to give him a new trial? And the Supreme Court finally said, yeah, you know, what, after 100 years of hearing this and saying, we're finally going to say, yeah. And so what they're doing is they're lobbying an objection in front of the judge to say, judge, you know, this isn't right. This reliable hearsay stuff sucks. We don't know who said this. We can't test it. We can't cross examine, cross examine them. We're allowed to attack the sufficiency, but then we can't attack the sufficiency because the person who's, who's in charge of the evidence isn't here. And one day some appellate court may look at that and say, you know what? You're right. And so you raise the objection even though you know you're going to lose it at the trial court level. I don't think the judge could sustain that objection if he wanted to. I don't think Utah would. Utah law would allow him. It's in their constitution, it's in their code, and their supreme court has said it's okay. The judge, if he ruled in favor of the defense on that issue, the judge would be out of line. He would be making an illegal ruling. It would be an activist judge. We don't like activist judges in this country. Or we don't. Some people do, but I don't. I think judges should follow the law even when they disagree with it personally. And I think that's what the judge is doing. He's following the law. An appellate court may come later and say, you know what? We agree with Tyler Robinson's counsel, but I don't think the trial court judge has that ability right now. So I don't blame the judge for overruling it. But I also don't blame Tyler Robinson's lawyer for raising it on every witness. They should. In every exhibit. They should, they should. Because one day a court is going to have to look at this and say, what's going on in Utah? It's not right. It's not right at all. Now, I did speak to somebody today who told me something shocking, that before I get into the evidence, I want to get to this. A lot was made today about camera footage, video footage, pictures, and what we got was a mountain of trash. We got grainy footage. We got stuff you can't see. We saw a pit, a car that kind of looked like Tyler Robinson's car pull up on a ring doorbell camera, and it looked like you were looking at it through the ocean, like it was on the bottom of the sea. And we're at the. I mean, it just. It was horrible. You could kind of make out that maybe somebody stepped out of that car, but you could not tell if it was a skinny guy or a fat guy, a Mexican, a Chinese guy, a black guy, a white guy, a woman, a man. You could tell nothing about who got out of that car. We've all seen the video footage of the guy scampering across the roof. You can't tell anything about that. Not a single person on earth can honestly sit here today and say, I know that's Tyler Robinson. You can't. You can't. But you know who might have had images, you know who might have had footage, camera footage, still footage, moving footage of Tyler Robinson or anyone else or something else that might have happened that day. Every media person in attendance. If I wanted to capture all of the high quality footage from that day, including all of the high quality cameras that were trained on Charlie Kirk at the moment of the big bang, maybe somebody pick up something walking through campus. Maybe, maybe Tyler Robinson or Lance Twigs or some other co conspirator, maybe rule out that it could have been somebody else in the crowd that did it. Who's the first person you would call? Well, you would want to call somebody with a master list of every media person who was there that day. I know that person's name. Her name's Aubrey Leitch. She used to work for TPSA until very recently. Aubrey Leitch is the person, the singular person who approved all the press passes that day. You know how many people have reached out to her to determine who was there and who might have evidence that can either exculpate or convict Tyler Robinson? Nobody, nobody at TPUSA has reached out to her. No one reached out to her while she worked there and said, hey, do you have a list of everybody who was here? We'd like to contact them and make sure they preserve their footage. Maybe give us a copy of it. We're interested in who killed Charlie Kirk, how and why. There are a lot of rumors going around out there, and if we had all the footage, maybe we'd be able to assist. Not one person from TPUSA reached out to her. Nobody at the Utah County Sheriff's Office who was tasked with investigating this crime to determine who killed Charlie Kirk, how and why. No one from the Utah County Sheriff's Office reached out to her. No one from the FBI. The FBI has considerable resources when it comes to looking at individual crimes. They could have taken this in. They could have run it through AI programs. They could have at least cataloged it and preserved it somewhere as some sort of central repository of truth. All the high quality camera images that were there that day, all the 1080 video, the 4K video, all the high quality 32, 64 megapixel camera shots, nobody from the FBI reached. And shockingly, probably more shockingly than anything, nobody from the prosecution and nobody from the defense reached out to her to ask who was there, who from the media was there. Instead, we're just grabbing footage that's floating around on the Internet and trying to run down who posted it.
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Katherine Nester
That's.
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Baron Coleman
That's what we're doing. That's how we're solving the Tyler Robinson case. That's how we're solving who killed Charlie Kirk and how and why. We're counting on interested people to have put it on X. I think it's pretty shocking. And if I'm the defense, I think I jump up and down and make a deal out of this. At some point during the trial, you guys did not investigate this. You had an opportunity to contact every newsman there. And there were a lot of news people there, a lot of media there. Shocking amount of media, frankly, for an event that size. Too much media. Then you have people calling at the last minute to get media passes, but they don't know who they were. Nobody called her. Why wouldn't you think somebody would have? I do. I think somebody. I think somebody should have. I think somebody should have if they didn't. All right, let's go through some of these clips, some of the big moments from the day. The first witness was a guy named Chris Bagley. He sucked. He was a disaster. If I'm this guy, I'm getting out of town. I'm changing my name, I'm wearing a wig, shaving my mustache. I'm getting out. This guy sucked, if I'm being honest. If I'm the prosecution, I'm like, is there a way we can try this case without this guy? I'm not sure you can. I'm not sure you can, but he sucked. He was horrible. I do want to run through a little bit of his testimony here because it was a little shocking, frankly. It was a little shocking. All right, let me play this small sliver here, and we'll talk about it. Did you make it to the rooftop?
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Officer Bagley
I did.
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Baron Coleman
Do you know about what time you got there?
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Officer Bagley
I probably. I got there 12:44.
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Baron Coleman
Okay. What did you do when you got on top? Let me just say that it was 21 minutes from the time you heard the big bang at 12:23. Until Officer Bagley waddled over there by 12:44, 21 minutes. We've read the probable cause affidavit. We'd read the charging documents. This is the first time we've gotten to hear from him live. This Bagley guy, he was the first one to respond. He was positioned at the top of the hall of Flags. The hall of Flags is that roof that was above Charlie Kirk and behind him. And he hears the boom. And he scampers down the stairs. He hangs out in the courtyard for a minute. Well, I don't want to give away the whole thing, but he hangs around the courtyard for a minute, finds a gun holster, walks past it. Doesn't catalog it, doesn't. Just walks past it, and then he heads over to the LOSI Center. Why? Because he and his expert determination found that the LOSI center was the obvious place that a gunshot would come. It's noteworthy that he's the only one who would have had eyes on the LOSI Center. The only one who could. Could have possibly had eyes on the LOSI Center. And video footage suggested he did. Video footage from the moment of the bang suggests that's where he was looking. Yet he didn't see anything. But he knew where to go.
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Officer Bagley
When I got on top, I hopped over the guardrail. I noticed that there was a. An object which was sitting right about 10 or 15ft in from the other side of the guardrail in the gravel. That looked out of place to me.
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Baron Coleman
And in relationship to where you hopped over the guardrail, what direction was that object?
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Officer Bagley
To the west of the guardrail.
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Baron Coleman
Okay. And did you recognize the object?
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Officer Bagley
I did.
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Baron Coleman
And what was it?
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Officer Bagley
It was a red and black screwdriver.
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Katherine Nester
Okay.
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Baron Coleman
Did you touch that object?
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Officer Bagley
I did not. Okay.
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Baron Coleman
I am going to refer the witness on your screen, Officer Bagley, to States Exhibit 3.1. Let me know when you see that.
- [42:41]
Officer Bagley
Yes, I see it.
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Baron Coleman
Do you recognize what that is?
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Officer Bagley
I do.
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Baron Coleman
And what is that?
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Officer Bagley
That's a picture of the screwdriver that I saw that day on top of the rooftop of the LOSI building.
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Baron Coleman
Okay. And that's how it appeared on the roof that day?
- [42:54]
Officer Bagley
Yes.
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Baron Coleman
Is that a fair and accurate portrayal of the screwdriver you observed and found that day?
- [43:00]
Officer Bagley
Yes.
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Baron Coleman
You're on. The State offers States Exhibit 3.1. Ms. Nester?
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Katherine Nester
Your Honor, we renew. Excuse me. We renew our standing. Objection. And object on the grounds that there's no foundation latest to when the photo was taken or by whom.
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Officer Bagley
Thank you.
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Baron Coleman
All right, let me pause this for just a Second. So that's the finding of the red and black screwdriver. Now, you would think, because this is, after all, 2024 or 2026. No, 2025 is when it happened. 2025. You would think that this would all be documented. Somehow he just found a critical piece of evidence. By the way, he found a screwdriver. There's no evidence that Charlie Kirk was shot with a screwdriver. Don't get me wrong. But the screwdriver comes into play because of the absurdly ridiculous story we're told that Tyler Robinson climbed to the roof of the LOSI center with a gun in two or more pieces. We're not sure how many pieces, used a screwdriver to fashion it back together, somehow maintained a near perfect zero, meaning where you're aiming is where the bullet will go. And scurried off the rooftop with all the evidence. Oh, but he forgot the screwdriver. Unlucky him. Unlucky him. Now, you would assume that would be documented? We're familiar with body camera footage. Officer Bagley, was it? Document. It was documented.
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Officer Bagley
Right?
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Baron Coleman
Officer Bagley, you. You documented it, right?
- [44:33]
Katherine Nester
While you were on the roof, did you encounter any spent casings?
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Officer Bagley
As a matter of fact, no. That's why when I. I saw the prone position, where the. Where a person would be laying down a sniper. Being around guns and snipers all the time. I was looking for a Spence shell casing. I couldn't see one. I was looking over the edge, looking all over the place, making sure the gravel wasn't disturbed, and I couldn't find a shell casing at that moment.
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Katherine Nester
And that would be the reason you would be looking for. That was because some types of guns, when they shoot, eject a casing automatically, right? Some do, some don't.
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Officer Bagley
Yes.
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Katherine Nester
Right. And then you also didn't find any un. Unshot bullets?
- [45:11]
Officer Bagley
No.
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Katherine Nester
Okay. Are you aware of there being a bullet found on another roof? I'm not vicinity. Were you aware of another bullet being found on the scene? Not on the roof of the LOSI building?
- [45:23]
Officer Bagley
I know.
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Katherine Nester
All right. Your body cam footage that I reviewed appears to end while you're still on the roof. Do you know why that is?
- [45:36]
Officer Bagley
I think the battery went dead. It was just right at that moment.
- [45:39]
Katherine Nester
Okay. And do you know, did you ever turn it back on that day or go get it re. I don't know. What do you have to do? Charge it or stick a new battery in it? I don't even know.
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Officer Bagley
Usually dock it, but no, I didn't go back. I was Too. It was too chaotic.
- [45:56]
Baron Coleman
Body cam footage died.
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Katherine Nester
At the.
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Baron Coleman
At the critical moment, the body cam footage died. I was on the roof scouring evidence. I was just about to find the fatal screwdriver. I mean the, the critical screwdriver. I was looking for spent casings. Oh, oh. And oh, the. That pesky body came. Oh, it died. It died. Oh, it died. Yeah, yeah. What do you mean it died? Well, it just ran out of juice. Well, well, that's interesting. I'm. I'm looking here at some body cam footage. I just wanted to know what kind of famous body cam footage companies are out there. Here's provision. This is a common body cam footage. Recording duration and storage limits full shift recording strains department resources through increased data storage cost. Battery limitations also affect recording capacity, with most current generation cameras providing 10 to 14 continuous hours of continuous recording time. Wow, 10 to 14 hours. That's amazing. That's amazing. He got there at 11, not 12:44. That's only an hour and 44 minutes. Well, that must be an unusual model. Well, no, here's a. Another common model of body cam that police officers use. The Axon body 4. Purpose built to be an incredible camera. This camera has a 13 hour battery life, ensuring the camera is a reliable full shift partner even when real time services like live streaming are used. Oh. So body cam footage is supposed to last 10 to 14 hours. 13 hours. And you got an hour and 44 minutes. And at the critical moment, right when all the marbles are at risk, all of our chips are in the middle. We're down to the felt. The cards are about to be flipped over. The body cam footage dies. That's a little Jeffrey Epstein for me, if we're being honest. It just is. It just is. It's the three minutes of missing footage in the middle of the night. It's the. All the cameras were broken on that wing. Sorry guys, I'm not buying it. I think that's trash. I think that's trash. This is the guy who found the prone position. You want to see what the prone position that he found looks like? You guys may complain and say, well, your screen is only recording at 1080. Guys, this guy was talking about knee prints and footprints and elbow prints and rifle. Where are all these prints? Sir? This. The gravel over here looks more disturbed than the gravel that you're saying is. Is the prone position here. And we might believe that you found it in this condition. If your body cam footage didn't die. You're the worst witness I've seen in a Long time in any trial. I can't believe they led with you. This is a disaster. And we're only like one third of one witness in. Now let's go back to the radio scanner. Let's go back to the radio scanner. Here. Let me back it up just a smidge to give you a little more context. Here is the radio scanner from that encounter. Listen for the word screwdriver. You would think if he saw the fatal screwdriver, that would be the first thing he would talk about. Latest report says there's one on top of the building. On top of the LOSI building. I do have kind of a imprint, which would be a great angle. Just in 14. I'm up on top of the Losi. Do we have. Do we have suspect information? Are we still looking for someone? Yeah, very.
- [49:58]
Officer Bagley
Your DPS is requesting us try and
- [50:00]
Baron Coleman
get that motorcycle stop. Maybe a suspect in that shooting. What was your traffic? Hey, Bags, can you tell if there's a camera in that area? I know they have spotted somebody. I think they're still trying to make contact. I'll go ahead and spoil the surprise. There was no screwdriver discussed on the dispatch. You would think the guy with the dead body cam footage would have known to immediately signaling that you'd found evidence. Oh, we got a screwdriver up here. Well, when he was in the preliminary hearing, that's the first thing he mentioned was the screwdriver. Now we can't find him anywhere. Well, did he go up there alone? Did. Did this guy. Did this Officer Bagley, did he go up alone on the LOSI Center? No, no, he didn't go up alone on the LOSI Center. He had company. Who. Who accompanied him to the top of the LOSI Center. Do share. We're all on the edge of our seats.
- [51:01]
Katherine Nester
Okay. And it was on?
- [51:02]
Officer Bagley
Yes.
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Katherine Nester
And it appears to me from reviewing your body camera that there was another individual who was with you that went to the LOSI building, who was in civilian clothing but appeared to have a gun. Who was that?
- [51:17]
Officer Bagley
I. I don't know who he was exactly. He. He had a badge on, and I had somebody with me to back me up as I ran up the stairs to make sure I had somebody with me.
- [51:24]
Katherine Nester
So you don't know what agency he's from or where he's from?
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Officer Bagley
No.
- [51:29]
Katherine Nester
And he looked like he had a pistol.
- [51:31]
Baron Coleman
Yes.
- [51:31]
Katherine Nester
Is that right?
- [51:31]
Officer Bagley
A handgun?
- [51:32]
Katherine Nester
Yes, handgun.
- [51:38]
Baron Coleman
Okay, so we've got Officer Bagley
- [51:45]
Katherine Nester
somehow
- [51:46]
Baron Coleman
positioned at the top of the hall of Flags with a perfect view to the LOSI center appears on camera to be looking that way at the moment of the fatal shot. Intuitively says he didn't see anything. Intuitively says that sounds like a rifle that came from the LOSI Center. Or it sounds like a rifle and it must have come from the LOSI Center. I don't know why he chose the LOSI Center. There were all kinds of buildings around. They all made. No, no, no, no. He went straight. Made a beeline. A beeline for the LOSI Center. When he gets there, his body cam fails. He shows up on the scene of the crime. He's ready to find the screwdriver. He's ready to find the imprint of a body laying there. But that dadgum body camera footage failed after an hour and 44 minutes. That's too bad. But he wasn't alone. Too bad. We can't question the other guy. We don't know who he was. No, just a guy in civilian clothes with a gun and a badge. Who? Are you telling me there was law enforcement there that we don't have documented? We don't know who that was. Maybe we'll find out who it was, but it's a little weird to me. How do we know this guy's not dropping screwdrivers? How do we know this guy's not making imprints with his foot? We don't. We don't because his body cam failed and we don't know who that was, ladies and gentlemen. That's a little weird. I mean, just right out of the gate, that's a little weird. Is that reasonable doubt? I don't know. It's weird. Definitely weird.
- [53:16]
Officer Bagley
If.
- [53:16]
Baron Coleman
If I was going to frame somebody, I, you know, might want to get on top of that roof with a guy in civilian clothes and a badge and a gun to drop screwdrivers off? Maybe.
- [53:28]
Officer Bagley
I don't know.
- [53:30]
Baron Coleman
But that happened. Like, that was testimony in the courtroom today. That was testimony in the courtroom. Now, we know for a fact they got this from Honest Ash, Real Honest Ash on. On X. We know for a fact that. That this guy Bagley, at least he testified, reviewed some surveillance footage. How confident was he in the surveillance footage that he reviewed this. This Officer Bagley, what did he see precisely? It's all going to come down to this. We're told he was on video camera, man. We saw the guy on video camera. He was up there with a gun. Oh, was he?
- [54:10]
Katherine Nester
You mention anywhere in this report that you saw a gun?
- [54:15]
Officer Bagley
I did not. I just had no object.
- [54:17]
Baron Coleman
So he did not mention in his police report that he saw a gun. After reviewing the surveillance footage that we're promised shows Tyler Robinson, not anyone else but Tyler Robinson, we're told this shows Tyler Robinson with a gun. This is the guy who reviewed the surveillance footage. He. He reviews the surveillance footage, he writes up a report and doesn't mention a gun, just mentions an object. Well, now we're getting into mountains of reasonable doubt, Right, because you got to have a gun to shoot somebody. You can't shoot somebody with an object. Some objects will shoot people, but a lot of objects won't. Broomsticks don't shoot people. Poles don't shoot people. Flagsticks don't shoot people. All could be considered objects.
- [55:05]
Katherine Nester
Did you mention that you saw that object? Is that on here?
- [55:10]
Officer Bagley
No.
- [55:11]
Katherine Nester
Okay.
- [55:12]
Baron Coleman
Nope. That wasn't in there either, actually. So get rid of the object that wasn't in his initial impression of the video either.
- [55:19]
Katherine Nester
You left that out. Now, you looked at that over and over again, the video?
- [55:25]
Officer Bagley
No, I've only seen it twice.
- [55:27]
Katherine Nester
Oh, really? When's the last time you saw it?
- [55:29]
Officer Bagley
It's been months.
- [55:30]
Katherine Nester
Okay. The last time you saw it, were you able to tell what that object was in his hand?
- [55:36]
Officer Bagley
Yes. Well, not tell what it is. I can see there's an object in that left hand.
- [55:40]
Katherine Nester
Yes.
- [55:40]
Officer Bagley
And could.
- [55:41]
Baron Coleman
Couldn't tell what the object was the last time he saw it. So this is the guy we're relying on. This is the convicting evidence. This is the guy who they used in the charging documents to say that Tyler Robinson scampered off the roof with a gun. This guy, it was his report that didn't mention an object in his hand and that he's still looking back, says, well, I can't tell it's a gun. I can just see it's an object.
- [56:04]
Katherine Nester
Knowing what you know about the case today, do you have an idea about what that object was?
- [56:08]
Baron Coleman
That's the question I wouldn't have asked. I've mentioned that earlier that I would not have asked a question. You know, sometimes you just let the fact finder in this case, the judge, you just sort of let his imagination run wild. You, if you got a guy on the hook, you don't take him off and throw him back into the ocean. Right? You just let the. I mean, the prosecution is going to clean that up. But make them earn their money. They get paid a state paycheck. They're probably making 100, 120, 150 grand a year to sit at that table. Let them earn their paycheck. You don't have to go in and clean it up for them. You know, you said you didn't see an object, but are you sure you didn't see an object? Any idea what it could have been? Oh, come on. Don't. Don't ask that question.
- [56:51]
Officer Bagley
It looks like a rifle or something to that effect. A long, long object.
- [56:58]
Katherine Nester
It looks.
- [56:58]
Baron Coleman
A rifle or something to that effect. A long object. I can think of a long. A lot of long objects that are not rifles.
- [57:04]
Officer Bagley
I've got.
- [57:05]
Baron Coleman
I got several in here. I mean, I got. I got long objects in here. I got tripods for the camera, tripods for the. I'm not suggesting a guy is on the roof with a tripod, but we're talking about killing a man here. We're talking about depriving him of his life, putting him in front of a firing squad, or injecting stuff in his veins that'll cause him to suffocate and die. We might want to be a little more sure than, hey, well, he had a long object.
- [57:28]
Katherine Nester
It's like a rifle.
- [57:29]
Officer Bagley
Like a long object. Like, skinny long. You can see it's like, almost like it's covered over something.
- [57:35]
Katherine Nester
So you saw the COVID which was the towel, right?
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Officer Bagley
Yes. And the shape of it is long.
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Baron Coleman
Okay, so I saw a long towel. That's what he saw. Some sort of COVID some sort of long something.
- [57:47]
Katherine Nester
So you can see a towel, but you can't see enough.
- [57:49]
Officer Bagley
I don't know if it was a towel or a blanket. I don't know what it was.
- [57:52]
Katherine Nester
But you can't see an actual gun?
- [57:55]
Officer Bagley
No, like an object. Like a form of a gun. Like a long object.
- [57:58]
Baron Coleman
Okay, you mention somebody asked me the other day in a super chat, could I define circumstantial evidence? I don't even think that's circumstantial evidence. Like, that's just guessing. Like, I saw something. He had. It was holding something. Well, that something is pretty important as we are reviewing the evidence, sir. That's pretty important. It actually, if you go to the original probable cause affidavit. So this is from September 12th. If you go to the original probable cause affidavit, this is very consistent. What he said today in court is very consistent with what was in the original probable cause affidavit. Here it is highlighted in blue. Suspect appeared to be carrying an item whose identity is not clear from the surveillance. So an unidentified object is what is being carried. That is the language from the probable cause affidavit on September 12th. Four days later, September 16th, we have ourselves New language. We have ourselves new language. I think somebody realized you can't convict somebody for carrying a large object, so they've changed it. Camera later captures the suspect as he runs across the roof to the suspected shooting position. Immediately after the shot was fired, a camera captures the suspect running across the roof carrying an item whose shape is consistent with a rifle. I'm not even sure you can convict somebody for carrying an item consistent with the shape of a rifle, but at least we're getting somewhere. But you have to admit the guy you're relying on didn't say that. That's not what he said. That's not at all what he said. In fact, what he said was he could not identify the person on the roof. Other than not being hefty. I don't remember the exact words he used. I stole this from the gangster. I don't think he'll care. Jenks, you're doing the Lord's work out here. Compiling evidence for our program. This is how he described the figure he saw in the roof you have that day?
- [60:17]
Officer Bagley
Yes.
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Katherine Nester
You mentioned when you went to the police department, you watched the video where you saw an individual up on the roof.
- [60:27]
Officer Bagley
Right.
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Katherine Nester
And that individual was in the vicinity where you saw the disturbance and the gravel.
- [60:33]
Officer Bagley
Yes.
- [60:34]
Katherine Nester
And when you looked at that video, were you able to identify the individual's face?
- [60:41]
Officer Bagley
I know.
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Baron Coleman
Well, that's a problem. Again, we're talking about putting a man to his death. A lot of times you want to make sure you've identified the correct individual. We just got evidence that you actually cannot identify his face. What about other characteristics?
- [60:59]
Katherine Nester
Were you able to identify any markings on their clothing?
- [61:02]
Officer Bagley
No.
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Baron Coleman
No markings on the clothing. So all of a sudden, the guy in the stairwell becomes largely irrelevant. We have no idea what the guy on the roof was wearing.
- [61:11]
Katherine Nester
Were you able to identify their height?
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Officer Bagley
No.
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Baron Coleman
Have no idea who it is. Could have been a five, two, I don't know. Chinese guy. Could have been a six foot, nine inch white guy. We don't know.
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Katherine Nester
When you all. When we looked at the picture of the. I think you called it the sniper purse. I'm going to use your word words. It looked like there was a measuring tape laid out next to it. Did you ever. Were you present when they measured, like, the distance, like how long, how tall that person would have been?
- [61:42]
Officer Bagley
I was not.
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Baron Coleman
So we don't know how tall he was.
- [61:46]
Katherine Nester
So you don't know what that is?
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Officer Bagley
I don't.
- [61:51]
Katherine Nester
Were you able to tell the person's weight from the video that you saw?
- [61:55]
Officer Bagley
I can tell he wasn't heavyset.
- [61:57]
Baron Coleman
Okay, so he's not a fatty. He's not a fatty. That's all I know. I mean, I. I don't even think we can say he. At this point. I think we can't rule out the 50 of the population. Roughly, maybe 51 that's female. this point, we're going with human. I mean, I think we're. I think we can settle on human. I don't think it's Bigfoot up there, I don't think. But we have no markings on his clothing. We have no face. We don't know what he's carrying. It's an object. It's long. Long object. We don't know how tall he is. We know he's not hefty. He eats salad. That's the only thing we know about this guy. He loves salad. Salad, fruit. Plates. 97. Three, beef. That's all he eats. Lean, cold cuts, maybe some fish. Steamed broccoli. That's all we know. It's all. That's all we know. The guy doesn't sit around pounding bags of lays. He doesn't eat a gallon of ice cream every night. And I. I don't even know what not heavyset means. I mean, that ain't the skinniest guy I've ever looked at. Is he? Would he consider himself heavyset? I think it would have been a perfect opportunity. Oh, man. Now that I think about it, as soon as he said he wasn't heavyset. Let me pull this back up. As. As soon as he said he wasn't heavyset, I think Katherine Nester should have gone. What about me? Am I heavyset? Was he smaller than me? Would you call me heavyset? What do you mean by heavyset, sir? Heavyset's a relative term. I need to know how you're defining it. I mean, force the guy into the most awkward conversation in the history of mankind. What is one thing no man wants to be asked? Do I look fat in this? You know, I would have been interested to know how he answered it. And that's no shade on Katherine Nestor. I mean, just work with what you got, girl. Use it to your advantage. He gave you an opening. Walk through it. Walk through it. This is where we are in this case, my body cam footage. I. I just miraculously knew precisely which roof to go to. I was accompanied by a civilian or in a man in civilian clothes in a badge that I didn't identify. I have no idea what agency he worked for. Could have bought it on ebay for all we know Amazon could have used a 3D printer and shined that bad boy up with some Krylon gold trim. I have no idea what agency he worked for, but he had a gun and a badge. So I took him to the scene of the crime and I made sure that my body cam footage died right when me and unknown guy showed up to the scene of the crime. And we're the only two people there. And then I later reviewed some surveillance footage and confirmed that some sort of creature was on that roof. Probably human. Probably human. Not a fat human at that. Not a heavy set human. An Ozempic American. And, and. And he was carrying something long. He had something long in his hand. But I don't know what clothes he was wearing. I didn't identify his face. I was not able to get any identifying characteristic. I don't know how tall he was, how old he was, what color he was. I know nothing about the man. I was promised mountains of evidence. I was promised mountains of evidence. I was prompt. They have him on camera. Well, do they? Do they have him on camera? I mean, after today, do they have him on camera? Do they have Tyler Robinson on camera committing a murder? That's important. We're charging a man. You promised us mountains of evidence. You promised us mountains of evidence. The next guy. Oh gosh, I didn't mean to start jumping in right away. The next guy who came up was a guy named Hull. David Hull was hoping they would get to Brian Davis today. They didn't. I think Brian Davis will tell us for sure whether that 6:25pm mirandizing was on September 11th or September 12th. That's going to be an interesting discussion. I think he'll. I think he has to know the answer because he is alleged to have shown up at 10 or 10:30. The arrest documents say he got there at 10. It'll be interesting. I'm sure the defense will cover it if the prosecution doesn't. But what time did you first hear about it? Where were you? Were you in Salt Lake City? Were you in Provo? Were you in Orem? How long did it take you to get there? So what time did you leave to head there in order to get there at 10 or 10:30?
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Officer Bagley
Did you.
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Baron Coleman
Did you drive at an extraordinarily high rate of speed or did you drive normal 70, 75 miles an hour down the interstate? I think it'll be interesting when that comes up. It'll be very interesting. But the second witness was not Brian Davis as I'd hoped. The second witness was A guy named David Hull. I found it noteworthy. I don't know why, that the guy had some sort of accent that was un American. I don't know if it. I'm not good with accents. I don't know if it was British or Australian. I don't know what it was. But he didn't sound local, and I don't know why that matters. You're allowed to be a cop and not an American or be raised somewhere else. Maybe he is an American. Maybe he's a naturalized citizen. I don't know. And you could probably still do a good job. But, you know, I favor the guy with the Utahn accent in this case. But he was there largely, I'll say, to talk about the extra video footage. So he talked about the video footage from Terrell Farnsworth. By way of introduction. Terrell Farnsworth was the guy who. Who runs a company called Visual Impulse, I think is the name of the company. Visual Impulse, I believe, only has one client. They might have more, but I think they only have one client, and that's TP usa. So Terrell Farnsworth is not a TPUSA employee. He's a contractor. He's a contractor. But his office, at least used to be located in the building where Charlie Kirk was located in the studio where they filmed the Charlie Kirk Show. I don't think it's there anymore. I think they've moved it to one of the other buildings. But regardless, he's on campus or at the embassy, as. As they like to call it at tpusa. At the embassy there on Beverly Road in Phoenix, there was an interesting discussion about how the FBI ended up with possession of. Of the different video. And we have that. We have that discussion captured. I want you to listen carefully to this discussion because I'm going to hearken back to a conversation Candace Owens had with Terrell Farnsworth. But I want you to hear this first. Other agent with the sba.
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Officer Bagley
Yes, we were able to collect video. TP USA had a videographer, Visual Impulse,
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Baron Coleman
in case you thought I was lying about the accent. A videographer. A videographer. I just thought I would just prove that I was right. He does not sound like he's from Utah.
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Officer Bagley
Who was taking coverage of the event. And they provided video to us that they had captured on September 10th of 2025.
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Baron Coleman
And do you know who or how that video was collected from? Visual impulse?
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Officer Bagley
Yeah. Mr. Farnsworth originally provided, I believe, a flash drive to Lieutenant O' Brien with one of the local agencies and a short Time after that, on September 10th, he provided downloadable versions, electronic versions, to Agent mortensen. And an 1102 was collected from him on May 6th of 2026.
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Baron Coleman
So an 1102 was prepared by someone with Visual Impulse?
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Officer Bagley
Yes. Terrell Farnsworth was the individual that prepared it. And in preparation for this, I spoke to him personally regarding that statement.
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Baron Coleman
And you know what his association is with Visual Impulse?
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Officer Bagley
I believe he's the owner, operator, or the director of the. The company.
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Baron Coleman
And then who collected that 1102 statement from Mr. Farnsworth?
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Officer Bagley
It was Agent Monson who collected it.
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Baron Coleman
Okay, you know that because Agent Morton told you or.
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Officer Bagley
He provided it to me. And then, as I mentioned, I subsequently spoke to Terrell Farnsworth personally regarding his statement.
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Baron Coleman
Okay. You had a chance to look at Mr. Farnsworth's 1102 statement?
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Officer Bagley
I have, yes.
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Baron Coleman
And again, does that statement include an advisory that any statement that he provided would be used? A preliminary hearing in lieu of his life testimony?
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Officer Bagley
Yes.
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Baron Coleman
Did it also include a warning that a false statement would potentially be punished by a class A misdemeanor?
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Officer Bagley
It did, yes.
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Baron Coleman
Okay, so to clarify here, Terl Farnsworth, we now know what date he turned over the footage. It was on September 10th. We know the manner in which he turned it over. Turned it over two different ways, according to this guy. One way he turned it over was via a flash drive. That's a piece of hardware. It's a. I think most of us know what a flash drive is. You plug it into your computer, and you. It has a. All the files in there, and you just access it. That's one way this guy says he turned it over. The second way that he says he turned it over was via Google Drive. Was via Google Drive. So that is how they say he turned it over. Flash drive and Google Drive, but that's not what we were told initially, if you recall, are in the possession of the FBI. That's what Andrew Colvette told us. But that's not what the officer said at all. The officer said he never got the SD cards or he didn't mention getting SD cards. Instead, he said he got a flash drive and a downloadable version from Google Drive. It's interesting, the downloadable version from Google Drive. And I can show you that that is what Terrell said. Terrell apparently got over his fear of being hacked by Google because you remember he told Candace Owens he would not share the drive with her. She just wanted to see. Did a shot come out the back? And he said, oh, I'm not Going to share that with you. I'm afraid I'll get hacked by Google. I'm afraid I'll get hacked by Google. Well, that conversation took place shortly before September 19th, as Jillian Faith says here. Great to see he got over his fear that Google was going to hack him. Apparently, this link no longer works. People have tried it. I think it's diabolical, guys, if I'm being honest. On September 10th, I was President. The turning point USA Valley Universe Unis. Excuse me, Utah Valley University event. Myself and my team were there to provide audio equipment, setup, management, and support, as we had done for Mr. Charlie Kirk for years. I'll tell you right now, that first sentence, those first two sentences, that is evidence. Terrell Farnsworth did not draft this. They said it was drafted by him. This was not drafted by him. He would know that's not how you stylize Turning Point usa. It would either be. He would have either put TPUSA in all caps or Turning Point USA with USA in all caps. He would not have put capital U, lowercase a, S, lowercase A. That's not how he would have stylized that. And I like to believe he wouldn't have started the sentence with myself. That's not proper English. But maybe I'm giving him too much credit. And nor do I think he would have called him Mr. Charlie Kirk. Our camera setup consisted of three angles. An angle directly on Charlie, an angle on the individual asking questions, and a wider angle behind Charlie that showed the audience and crowd reaction. It's that wider angle behind Charlie that Candace Owens was talking about. That day, September 10th, I provided SBI with four videos through a Google Drive link. And then he gives the link, these videos labeled whatever, duration 2620, whatever that is, duration 2308, whatever that is, duration 2648 and hyperdeck, whatever that is, duration 2611, were taken by me and my team at the event on September 10, 2025. What's interesting about that is that's four different videos that he provided. Now, he said he only had three angles.
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Officer Bagley
If.
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Baron Coleman
If you. If you read. He says he has three angles now. Now, maybe one of these is some sort of, like, compilation that has all three videos on the same screen. I don't know, but he says those four files, and they. They last between 26 and 20, 23 and 26 minutes. I don't know why that one is shorter, but whatever. Were taken by me and my team at the UVU event on September 10, 2025. These videos, as they were provided to SBI are a true and correct representation of what took place. That's just foundational language that has to be in there. Regarding the clip labeled as whatever I've reviewed and from what I can see, it is a true and correct representation of a portion of the larger files I previously sent to the sbi. So it sounds like the SBI clipped it and sent it back to him for additional authentication. That's what it looks like to me going on in here. I don't, again, I don't know why four files instead of three when he says they only had three cameras. One of them may be some sort of super cut that has all three on the same screen. I don't know. And then it, and then it sounds like this footage of crowd and behind Charlie that's bait stamped number 15. Sounds like it's a clip of what he provided. But regardless, he says he provided it by Google Drive. He doesn't mention a flash drive and he sure doesn't mention providing SD cards to them. And I think that's a key fact. I think that's a very key fact because what's, what's at question here is whether these are precisely accurate representations of what was on those SD cards. You know, I. Once you take the SD card and you load it into a computer and then you create a new file, you could in theory edit it. And some editing is really slick. It's really slick. You might not catch it, right? You might not even really sophisticated people just viewing it might not see it. So I think I would ask, where are the SD cards and can we look at them? Is there a way to analyze them to see have they been altered? Are they the original footage? I don't even know if that's possible. I mean, it's been 10 months. What, what could, what could have happened to those SD cards in 10 months? What could happen to the footage? And why was one of them three minutes shorter than the other and was it the full frame? Did we get the full frame and did we see everything going on behind the table afterwards? I just got a lot of questions. I've got a whole lot of questions when it comes to this stuff,
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Officer Bagley
But
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Baron Coleman
that sounds like it's not, sounds like it's not his handwriting. It sounds like it's not his handwriting. Now guess who crashed out all day? I'm not sure who is advising TPUSA at this point. I'm not sure at all who is advising TPUSA at this point. And I can see Andrew's embarrassed by his crash outs because he's now posted a bunch of stuff back to back to back in order to push them down. But I just want to go through some of these. Some of this crash out over the last day or so. Let's see here. Let me scroll back to late last night, I think is when it all started. Wow. Okay, here we go. So last night we covered on this program that. That there was an article coming out from a. A national contagion research institute had provided some data showing that Candace Owens is radicalizing people. And Andrew Colvette today, 11 hours ago, reposted a thread in which somebody is. Is basically badmouthing Candace for this. And he goes through and I don't know, must have screwed it up because he kind of reposted it there. Then he starts really going after her. Let me show you. There we go. So Candace posts one more fight. Charlie, I don't fear these demons. We will win. That probably should have gone without a response from TPUSA's chief PR person, but he could not help himself. Candace, you and Charlie were not friends. I love this. This is going to be a center point of this. All day he fighting with her all day over. Charlie didn't like you. I had these same fights in fifth grade. Billy doesn't like you. He's not your friend. You and Charlie were not friends. He managed you. That's why I did the opening I did today. He's accusing Charlie of being a liar and a hypocrite. All day long he goes into this. He kept things light and polite so you wouldn't turn on the org. Show me any proof of genuine friendship from the last 12 months of his life. From the last 18 months. From the last 24 months. Not some 2018 text. Something recent. You gave him anxiety. Another Candace is the you here and Charlie's the him. Char. Candace gave Charlie anxiety. Whenever you. Candace called or texted, asking, demanding to speak at our events. He made me or Justin deal with you and George. This is why when you tried to hire me in February 2024 for PR, I agreed to go along with it against my better judgment because Charlie asked me to keep you close and protect the org from you. The publicist I tried to hire to run point prayed about it and felt the Lord told her a firm no. So I ultimately declined. This is your central foundational lie. You were not his friend. You were not his defender. You were his tormentor. And now you torment his wife in the organization he built. Candace, you are a fraud. And then he goes on to quote Blake Neff here. As Charlie once told us, Candace is very easy to understand once you realize all she cares about is money. Well, Candace did not take that lying down. Did not take that lying down at all. And she had a response. She had a response. In fact, many responses. Here is one such response. Charlie had so much anxiety about our friendship that he was the one updating me on the farce of October 7th. Really weird to continually initiate convos with someone you're scared of. And this is Charlie Kirk texting her about the idf, knowing of the plan to kidnap before the event took place and her writing back. Unreal. That was January of 2024. Certainly within the last. I don't know, what do you say? 24 months? Yeah, it's right outside the last 24 months. And they just went back and forth all day. They just kept going back and forth all day. It was absolutely ludicrous. Andrew reposted somebody who said this. Candace and Charlie were not friends. I've spent the last year getting to know the leadership at tpusa. Oh, the last year you say you must know everything, then I bet you're fun at parties. I spent hours in car. Charlie in conversation with Charlie Kirk closest friends. Oh, that's not very comforting, sir. And without fail, every single one of them tells me essentially the same thing. Candace and Charlie weren't really friends. Well, we don't doubt that they'd say that because the question is, were they? And what you're saying here is you have no information relevant to that inquiry. So that's more. More here. Here's Candace saying Andrew has recently been seating the narrative that Charlie distanced himself from here. Here's Andrew in his own words on a text chain with me and Charlie in May of 2024, denying that charge. Charlie had my back 100%. His donors were the ones pressuring him. He always expressed to me that he thought the Daily Wire was behind the sudden push. Here is Andrew colvette texting Candace May 3, 2024. We're not distancing ourselves from you. This is Andrew Colvette to Candace Owens. We are not distancing ourselves from you. We have a bunch of donors that want us to, but we deal with them one on one. And this website is a resource explaining things. Most of them are fine once we sit and talk with them. I wonder if it's been personally or Daily Wire pretty dirty. And so Andrew here is tossing the diminutive leader of the Daily Wire, Ben Shapiro, right under the bus and backing over the little short bus right over him. I'm assuming it's a short bus. Midget horse short bus. But he's backing the bus right over. And then Charlie says, candace, we are with you 100%. Candace, we are with you 100%. Then Andrew chimes in and says, yep, Sounds exactly what someone would say to a person they're trying to manage. Sir, you just called Charlie Kirk a liar and a hypocrite. You just took his dead corpse and wiped your hind end with it after an especially steamy and greasy one. That's what you just did, Andrew. Is that the look TPUSA is going for? Scoring potshots against podcasters by desecrating the image of your founder? No, Charlie was just trying to manage you. He's a liar. You know, these are. These are the two options Andrew has. He's backed himself into a really strange corner and he didn't have to. He could have just ignored it. Option A is the option he's chosen. Yes, Candace, Charlie lied to your face. He is a liar after all. Like me, Andrew Colvette, an admitted liar. Charlie also is a liar, and I'm going to desecrate his corpse right here in public on X for all to see. This particular tweet has already been viewed 261,000 times. That's a quarter million people have seen Andrew Colvette call Charlie Kirk a bold faced liar, Bald faced liar, whatever you want to call him. That's option A, the option he's chosen. Kick Charlie while he's dead. Option B would be to say, I'm lying now. I, Andrew Colvette, am lying now. You and Charlie were actually friends. Friends. I've been mistaken. I wasn't telling the truth. He chose not to do that. He chose instead to run over his dead friend. His alleged friend. I don't think they were friends. If anyone wasn't the friend, I think it's Andrew wasn't the friend. I think Andrew was the handler. That's why I did the opening I did today. I think Andrew. Andrew was inserted into tpusa and Charlie was an unwitting asset. Andrew was managing him. Andrew was planting things in his head. He was. He had control of his Twitter account. Like, how much better of a handler can you be than to actually be able to put words in the mouth of your unwitting asset? Get on Charlie Kirk 11 Twitter feed and say whatever you want. Like, that's handler gold. Most handlers working with unwitting assets don't have that access. But Andrew did. Andrew did. He wasn't Fine. Just desecrating Charlie's corpse. On that one occasion, he actually went a step further. Here is Candace saying, I'm glad you finally came to the surface rat. Your previous employees told me it was you and Erica that were teaming up with the YouTubers to put out that utterly fake narrative that Charlie and I were not friends and he had anxiety. You also worked together to lie about his pull towards Catholicism and to put out the deranged narrative that I secretly loved Charlie and hadn't spoken to him since 2019, despite me touring with him through May of 2024. Your lies are easy to debunk. I simply could have not have demanded to speak at any TPUSA event because we had a speaker contract that rolled over annually. Andrew. This means I never had to beg or even request to speak at any event because I was contractually obligated to speak at every major TPUSA event every year. It's also utterly ludicrous to suggest he didn't pick up my calls because I never call. Any person who knows me knows I never pick up or call people. But you lie so much. I'm going to accept this easy challenge to prove you're a liar by releasing every single time I dialed Charlie's number for the last three years, as soon as I'm back on air, that will be released. Man, when she gets back, it's going to be bad on these people. And I know they are anticipating it, which is why they're freaking out right now. They're trying to seed and poison the well before she gets back, because when she gets back, it's going to be bad for them, and they know it. I've promised it, and they know it gratefully. Telephone logs go back five years. I simply prefer to text. And I thank God for that, as I've been able to debunk your lies about Charlie because of that habit. Like I said, your number one problem is you are dumb. Regarding your narrative that we never spoke, I literally just released Charlie and I discussing your partner Johnny Moore's demonic attack against Crisis King, a convo initiated by Charlie. Those messages are dated to May 2025. But, hey, let's hear Charlie's own words regarding our friendship, shall we? Here. Charlie captured August 21, 2025, three weeks before he died. Well, what did he say? What did he say? 3 weeks relationship with Candace Owens. She's a great friend, you know.
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Officer Bagley
Look, I don't agree with everything Candace says, but you know what I don't do? I don't stop being friends. With people just because people morally blackmail me. I don't do that. And you shouldn't either. Honestly. I traveled the country with Candace. I went to her wedding. I saw her meet her husband. I went to Israel with Candace, which is a fun story, I'll tell you. At some point I. I think the world of Candace. She's a great mother. She certainly has very, very fun opinions at times and she's a great talent. She says a lot of stuff that sometimes I don't agree with. But that's what makes the relate our relationship and our friendship relationship with Candace Owens.
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Baron Coleman
Well, Andrew could have chosen to ignore that, but no, he has to dig Charlie up and set him on fire. Not. Not content with wiping his hind quarters with Charlie's dying dead corpse, he has to dig him up and set him on fire. I was actually with Charlie at the event. We traveled that entire week together. As Charlie says here, he would never allow someone else to morally blackmail him into condemning anyone. I love that about him. All this clip demonstrates is that he was a gentleman who believed a personal relationship with someone put that person off limits. He was very forceful on that point. But you might have also noticed he's scrambling to defend your very fun opinions that he didn't agree with. And now we're going to put words in a dead man's mouth. And when he got off stage, the first thing he asked me as we walked to the car was how I felt he handled the Candace answer. He said he knew you'd eventually see the clip and wanted my opinion on how it came across. I told him he handled it well and he said the Candace questions are only going to continue to get crazier. Continue the crazier your commentary got. We have to be ready for them. He was walking on eggshells, Candace, because he knew he was one clip away from you turning on him in the org. Hope that helps. It wasn't just Charlie lying by text directly to Candace. He wasn't just lying to one person on the other end of a text thread. He was lying to thousands of people at an event who paid or showed up to see him. He'll lie to them too, Candace and the world. If you believe Charlie. If you believe Andrew. Charlie was a hypocrite. Charlie was not worth following. Charlie had no spine, no backbone, and he had no honor, no integrity, no nobility. There was nothing good about Charlie's character, according to Andrew Colvett, because anyone who'll lie to you that frequently, that often, and frankly lie to that many people is a lousy individual. It's a terrible human being. I don't believe that about Charlie Kerr. I didn't agree with him on every political issue. I stated that early and often when I started covering this case, that his foreign policy was not my cup of tea. But that over the past 12 to 18 months, he'd started coming around a little bit to see things more my way when it comes to American interventionism. But what I never thought Charlie was, was a diabolical being. I never thought he was a liar. I never thought he was a habitual liar, and I never thought he lied with ease. I might have thought he was mistaken, but I thought he was decent. Good. Andrew Colvette did not think that. At least not what he's saying now. Rather, Andrew Colvette thought Charlie Kirk was a monster. Someone who would lie at will just to placate people because he didn't have the spine, the backbone to handle the fallout. That's a coward. That's what we call a coward. You, sir, are taking the coward's way out here, Andrew. You're taking the coward's way out. What you've done today has done more to demean and degrade Charlie's memory than anything Candace Owens has ever said about Erica Kirk. Erica has lied, documented. How many college degrees does she have? How many pageants did she enter? How many people did she date? When did she date them? These are all documented facts that she lied about, at least, best I can tell. Now, I've never been corrected on that record. But what you're doing, Andrew, is not documented. You are putting words into a dead man's mouth to call him a liar. You're interpreting the texts that Candace is putting forward. You're not providing evidence that Charlie felt any of these things. It's a funny thing about what you and TPUSA do. This seems to be a habit. We don't have any documented evidence that Charlie ever wanted Erica to take over. All we got was some clipped up one and three, quarter second, divided into two brief clips out of context, no idea what he was talking about. And from that, you tell us that of course Charlie wanted Erica to take over. Who could doubt it? We released the video. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. We don't know what that video was talking about. Then you tell us. Well, we can back it up because he told all of us, personally and individually, well, he never wrote it down. He never put it in a text. He never put it in any of his journals. He never talked about it openly on Any stage. And in fact, it went against absolutely everything he said on every single stage he would ever been on. When he talked about if a woman can afford it, she should be home with her kids. That's the most important thing a woman can do. Everyone except Erica. You see, Charlie wanted Erica in the office. She wanted her at the Founders Ball, where were her kids. She wanted her on speaking tours. Where were the kids? She wanted her putting on her pumps, playing boss babe. That's what he really wanted for Erica. That's what you're telling us. And all we have are the words of Charlie Kirk himself that fly in the face of all of that. It's the exact same thing here, Andrew. All we have are the words of Charlie Kirk and you, who told Candace continually for years that Charlie was, in fact, her friend, cared for her deeply, kept her updated on things, was not stabbing her behind her back, was communicating
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Katherine Nester
with her,
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Baron Coleman
was confirming their friendship on a regular basis, was even speculating out there. I think it was the Daily Wire who might be doing this. That diabolical, dastardly Ben Shapiro. Perhaps he's the one you should be going after. Not sure how I'd feel if I was Ben Shapiro today. But this is the way you've chosen to treat Charlie's memory. Every time something comes up that seems to fly in the face of everything Charlie actually said, you guys have some super secret conversation that took place behind the scenes that went against all of it. And what it means is that Charlie was not an honorable man. He was not an honest man. He was a diabolical, maniacal liar. A habitual, pathological liar. He lied about what he wanted women to do in the workforce. He lied about his relationship with Candace. What else did he lie about, Andrew? Can we just get it all out now? Can we go ahead and completely desecrate his corpse? Can we go ahead and completely roll over it with a steamroller? Why we're going ahead and doing all the rest of this. What you're doing is gross. And I don't. I don't know if you know you're doing it or if you really hated the man because you were assigned to him as a handler and you had no respected for him whatsoever. Because that's what you're acting like. You're acting like you were the one who was making all the calls. And I'm telling you right now, this is horrific. This is horrific. What you're telling all of the TPUSA followers is you've been duped. Charlie Kirk is not who you thought he was you guys who used to tune in every day for the Charlie Kirk show. He was lying to your face. You were following a liar. All of you who booked hotel rooms and traveled to cities to see Charlie Kirk speak live. Waste of time. He was just a two bit liar. All you people who read his 16 bestselling books. He didn't mean any of that. He's just a pathological liar according to Andrew. I'm not sure you're doing what you think you're doing, sir. I don't know where you learned your PR skills, but go back and get your money back. You've been let down. Someone failed you in life. Someone failed you miserably and you should be ashamed. But I don't think you have any shame. So I expect this terrible behavior to continue. I can't wait to find out next from Andrew. Where else Charlie told habitual lies can just tune into his X feed and find out? I suppose. I'm sure it's coming.
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Katherine Nester
All right.
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Baron Coleman
That's my message to Andrew. If you've liked the program, please by all means feel free to hit the like button. If you're not a subscriber, you think you're a subscriber, go ahead and double check. Some people are being unsubscribed. I made that comment one day. We had like 2300 subscriptions that particular day because everybody went and checked and they had been unsubscribed. So by all means go click the subscribe button while you're there. You might as well click the notification, the little drop down arrow that shows up. If you want to join the program, become a member, get access to our members content. Just, just click the join button and that join button will take you to the members page. If you want to save three bucks, don't do it through your YouTube app on your Apple phone. Open a browser, it'll be $3 cheaper. I don't charge that. I make nothing off that $3. So I don't care if you pay Apple or not. You don't mind paying the extra $3. Go through Apple, pay it every month. If you want to save 3 bucks, do it through a browser. It'll be a little cheaper. I have no idea why they charge that but they do. I will be on tomorrow so I will not have a show tomorrow. I am actually going to my friend Jeff's funeral in the morning. That's tomorrow. So pray for me. Pray for him, pray for his family. That'll be. Pray for everyone that's going to be There, it's gonna, it's gonna be tough. And then in the afternoon, I will be recording with Clint Russell and Buckley Carlson. We will be doing the Liberty Lockdown podcast. I think that'll be coming out Wednesday for broad consumption, so stay tuned. That should be, that should be a lot of fun. I will roll through some of your comments. I will warn you, just looking at the volume right now, if you have not yet left a comment and it is, you're only going to leave one. If I'm able to pull it up on screen, I may not get to all of them tonight. I might get to all of them that have been commented so far. But towards the end of the program, I may have to start skipping around a little bit. So if it's important to you, just, you know, come back, come back Wednesday when we're live and, and comment and I'll, I'll address your concerns then. I do read all the comments. I just don't. Can't pull them up and respond to all of them when they, when we have, when we have so many. So. Thank you. I do appreciate it. Daisy and I are waiting to watch James Files confess. Oh, Jay Z and I are waiting watch James Files confessed. Did she tell you to say that? She asked me like three times a week if I've watched James Files yet. I'll watch it. I'll watch. I can't promise I'll watch it tonight or tomorrow, but I am going to watch it. Daisy, if you're planting people in the comments, it's working. But Baron, an AK version of the old angel meme seems appropriate. Ak, stop hitting yourself. But low. He could not because EF was hitting him with his own hands. Sorry, I gotta turn my fan up a little bit.
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Officer Bagley
It's hot.
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Baron Coleman
Yeah, he's a little like that. He's his own worst enemy. My fellow jury members. The ring cam driveway footage was clearly a metallic mint green Buick Skylark. Oh, it didn't look like that to me, but I'll go back and double check it. Any experts know if engraved bullets fly true? Well, the, the shell itself shouldn't change the flight of the bullet. I doubt he was actually engraving the actual bullet. We use bullet colloquial colloquially to mean everything from the casing to the bullet itself. The reality is the casing doesn't go anywhere. You can write whatever you want on there as long as you don't damage the casing itself. I suddenly developed a Ford and exit to be here. You must have been the one testifying, Sir. Hearsay to its best on this preliminary hearing, which is absurd. I hope Charlie gets the justice he deserves. Oh, I do, too. I do, too. But, Baron, does a state constitution supersede our federal constitution? Why would they allow evidence even though it's federally unconstitutional? I don't think she's saying it's federally unconstitutional. I think what she's doing is setting up the appellate process, which will, oftentimes, in a death penalty case, include a federal component, the habeas corpus route. After you've exhausted your state court options, you can run through the federal courts. And I think that's what she's setting up. I had to stop going from hospital to hospital looking for the victim to watch this podcast. Well, welcome in. Welcome in, Mr. Qureshi. Every time I watch the judge look at a video we weren't allowed to see, I laughed and said, he's pulling a Baron. I didn't even think about that. You're right. I didn't even cross my mind. Happy crash out day. Barons slop. Critical mass. Yes, Andrew's crashing out. It's. It's bad too. Is destroying Charlie Kirk's legacy every single day. Got out of the drapes just to watch this. Thank goodness. Thank goodness. Drapes are expensive for. Super chat, longtime listener. Thanks for keeping us all awake and informed. You truly are an extraordinary podcaster. All the love from southern Utah. Well, you're right in the thick of things there in Southern Utah. I'm doing my best here to keep you awake and informed. I'm doing everything I can. My favorite humble host, Baron. Would you consider an appearance on one of the trigger smart live streams during the hearing this week? No pressure. If you had time, it would be great. I thought about. He gave me a link. I thought about jumping in today. I don't know. I don't know because I'm watching it and prepping at the same time. Now, tomorrow I don't anything to prep, but tomorrow I got plans. I won't be able to be there and so I will be again. Like I said, we had the funeral in the morning and then in the afternoon I'm recording with. With Clint and Buckley Carlson. So I. I won't be able to do it tomorrow.
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Katherine Nester
And
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Baron Coleman
Wednesday, I'll play it by ear Wednesday and Thursday because I'm planning to do shows that night. And then Friday I usually do a member show. So we'll. We'll see. Maybe we can do something with the member show with it. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. Stop crashing out on X to watch this. Oh, researcher that's Daisy. I was like, wait a minute, you got a name like Daisy? That is Daisy. Well, don't crash out on X. Bad for the brand. Feels like Andrew Colvette is intentionally trying to entrap Candace this week to keep her mind away from the trial. Personally, if I was Candace, I would not reply to him and let him stew. Oh, I think she's doing brilliant work. I mean, think about all the. She basically got Andrew on X calling Charlie a demon. Like, who would have thunk that was coming? Not I. Not I. Meatloaf for dinner. It was great. That is all. I've had good meatloaf. I've had bad meatloaf. Got very bad meatloaf. What do you. When do you. What day do you expect? Lt's recording. I would think the all the conversations between Lance and Tyler would come towards the end of the week, but I don't know. That's just my guess. That's how I would set it up. If I was the prosecutor, I would end with a flourish. That's going to be the most damning evidence. Don't underestimate jewels. During or following a broadcast, the jury can send Baron jewels as a monetary applause an alternative to engaging in Supers 2016 Twitch Cheer Bits set us trend on many platforms. Thank you, I appreciate that. I know people hate them. Erica decided to dress like Wednesday Adams for court today. How appropriate. I didn't see her outfit. I just saw her scamper in. I didn't see her scamper out. If all their witnesses are like Officer Bagley, Tyler's in good shape and that prosecutor was so lost. Keep in mind all they've got to do is get past the preliminary hearing is a very low hurdle. Very low hurdle. It's like a stepping over a one foot concrete block. I mean some somebody may trip on it, but it's not very often Crash out is exhausting. Hurt dogs bite. Yes. Crisis king indeed. Surgeon being blocked from the trauma room disturbs me. Also the me being promoted afterwards. Just like in Butler suspect, same playbook. Yeah, he's not the only one. I think that officer that testified today got a kush job in another location making more money like more than double is what I heard. Whether that's true or not. I think it's true. No on section 219 of the NDAA while your traders representative now. Thank you. I was not whelmed. Quite underwhelmed. Jill. I was not whelmed either. And I know you're a lawyer and I was watching it like A lawyer. I was not whelmed at all. I'm, I'm assuming this is going to be the worst day. If it's not, they're in trouble. If they have a day worse than this, the prosecution's in trouble. And I don't think they're in trouble. Erica's stylist took away her glitter pants and gave her her black widow wardrobe for today. Yeah, I wonder if we're going to do that red carpet thing every day. I'll be interested to see who goes in tomorrow. Didn't see here anything that pointed to T.R. as a shooter. Yeah, same. I think that's all going to come through the text messages, and that's pretty shady to me. You know, I was pretty shady. And not only that, go back and read the text messages. Read the discord. He never says I shot Charlie Kirk. He talked about if you believe he even wrote all of them. He never says I took the shot. He says, I had a chance to take him out, I took it. That could be part of a bigger plan. He says some hate can't. There's nothing that says I'm the guy. How long you been planning this? About a week. Didn't say I planned it alone. I don't, I don't know. I think even the text messages leave a little wiggle room. Instead of CK stuff, I want to instead share, suggest a post wind down tune. It won't let me paste links, so instead I just type into YouTube. Gary Moore still got the blues. Okay, thank you, BBB. First one to tell snitch wins the deal. Just ask Sammy the Bull Gravano on John Gotti. Is tpusa the new Gambino crime family? What say you would make a good opening statement? I've actually read and watched quite a bit about Sammy the Bull Gravano and John Gotti. That would be a cool opening statement. You know where he lives or where they put him in witness protection. Scottsdale.
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Katherine Nester
Wow.
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Baron Coleman
What a kawinky dink. Yeah, Scottsdale. That's where Sammy the Bull went. I'm sure it's a coincidence. Do you expect prosecution to put forward admissible evidence first, then move more solid, move the more solid stuff later as a tactic? That's, I mean, I, I, I don't understand what you're saying, because to be solid, it would have to be admissible. I don't know, I don't know what you're saying. But I do expect the end to be a flourish. I think the last day or two is going to be going to be their. Their big shebang. Like. Like a fireworks display. What do you call that at the end? Not the flourish. What is that? Not an ensemble. What is it?
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Officer Bagley
The.
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Baron Coleman
The big thing at the end. Whatever that's called. I'll switch over to the other comments. What do you guys call that? I can't. No, you guys don't know either. Whatever it's called. The big shebang at the end. That's. That's probably how they'll do it. Pronounced like Lindsay. Fair enough. Baron, I've been excitedly waiting for your live and intermittently watching the receipts you dropped on X. Thank you for keeping in step and assisting the principal. Oh, I do.
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Officer Bagley
Yeah.
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Baron Coleman
I'm a big fan. Big fan of the principal. My B is objecting to everything. A strategy? No, not at all.
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Officer Bagley
It's.
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Baron Coleman
It's. Well, I mean, it's strategy in the sense that you have to preserve your objections on the record. No, you've gotta. If you don't make an objection, you can't raise it on appeal. You gotta. You gotta get it out there. Unwilling floater. Flush it. Oh, no. That's not what they're talking about. That's not what they're talking about. Hey, Brian, didn't you know? Mountain of evidence equals hearsay. And trust me, bro, the prosecution should be embarrassed. Christ is king. Indeed. I think they had a terrible day, if I'm being honest. You know, if it's like a boxing match and you're scoring by rounds, it's 10, nine. Defense today. There's no doubt. There's no doubt. Maybe even 10, eight. Like maybe they took a fall and you can take a point off. And Erica and his parents didn't show up together or sit together instead. Don Jr. Sat with her. She's going to need a lot of fake tears for this week. I'm not sure that's entirely accurate, but I don't know where they sat. I thought. I thought there was a court representative and then Mr. Kirk and then Mrs. Kirk and then Erica. That's what I thought happened, but I could be wrong. I don't know why I think that. I thought I read it somewhere thoroughly. Enjoy your enthusiasm, wit, knowledge and faith. God bless and keep the Coleman family. Oh, yeah. Crisis king indeed. Doing our best here. Our best here. Granddaughter's here. Granddaughter's been here all day. Hard to prep. Hard to prep. Please explain what hearsay is to folks. And circumstantial evidence. Watch with Trigger and a military guy. They clearly don't know. They have no reason to. But it Drove me nuts confusing the two. Sure. Hearsay is an out of court statement asserted in court, presented in court to assert the truth of the matter asserted. So if I want to prove that Bill ran a red light, but I didn't see Bill run a red light, Jim saw Bill run a red light and told me all about it and then I go sit in court. So I'm in court, but I'm recounting an out of court statement, meaning I'm telling, I'm telling the jury that Jim, that Jim told me that Bill ran the red light. That's hearsay. That's actually double hearsay. But that's hearsay. It's double hearsay because. No, it's hearsay. That's his out of court statement and I'm giving it to you in court for the truth of the matter asserted, meaning that Bill ran the red light. There are times when a witness will be allowed to hear and a question premised on hearsay or be able to provide an answer on hearsay. And it's things like it happened today, the effect on the listener. So if you're asking, why did you go investigate the crime scene? Well, Jim told me that Bill ran a red light. Oh, well, objection. Hearsay. Well, yeah, technically, but I'm not trying to. I'm not using the statement to say Bill ran the red light. I'm using the statement to say why I responded to the accident scene. So although it's hearsay, we're going to allow the question and the answer to be heard by the jury. So it's. That's hearsay, though. It's an out of court statement issued in court to establish truth. I'll give you an example from this case. Nearly everything you heard today was hearsay. What the medical examiner said, well, that's an out of court statement and it was presented in court today for the truth of the matter asserted, namely how Charlie Kirk died, what was the cause of death. Lance Twigs statement. They're going to put up of him, the recorded statement. I don't know if that's going to be on paper or that's going to be a video, but either way it's hearsay. It's an out of court statement. In other words, Lance Twiggs isn't sitting in the witness chair. Someone else will be sitting in the witness chair and they'll be saying, here's what Lance Twiggs said and then they'll either show you or they'll play it. That's hearsay. So if it's not Hearsay. It has to be said in court and it has to be your personal observation, reflection or understanding. I hope that clarifies that. Circumstantial evidence, it's just, you know, we don't have him pulling the gun, but we have him at the scene. That's circumstantial. You could, you could then draw the conclusion. You can infer he must have fired the gun. He was at the scene. But that's not direct evidence. He fired the gun. That's not like a video of him firing the gun or eyewitness saying he fired the gun. That's not circumstantial. That's direct evidence. So I hope that clears it up. Tell me Stacy Sheridan doesn't remind you of Helen Pierce, cartel lawyer from Ozark. Never seen it. I don't watch a lot of television. Are we the public? An extension of Robinson's defense? Public defenders, if you will. No, no. We're just interested observers and commentators. Twenty years ago, I lost my husband to another woman. I sobbed for three years straight. I was inconsolable, couldn't function, eat or drink. That is what grief looks like. Eric is not grieving, is not a grieving widow. Christ is king indeed. I, I, as I've stated many times, that case is going to have a lot of trouble if they get widows on that jury. And, and they are at all familiar with Erica Kirk. Like, if they get widows on the jury, they better never have seen a clip of Erica Kirk. Because if they see the glitter pant suit and the fireworks, it's going to be tough to convict Tyler Robinson. Looks like she did him a favor. Did her a favor. He did her a favor. It was a great dearth of evidence today. Dearth is a good word. But we all know the Fed slappers on X are going to continue with their open and shut views. Especially Tatum. Looking forward to our humble host. Hi, Q.
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Katherine Nester
Text.
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Baron Coleman
Well, I hope you got it. Hope you got it. Baron. I might have used that expression on X today with the asterisk. I didn't spell it out, but I said that they're turning him into a. That word. Liar. And I'm. And I said it because I'm angry. I'm angry. So you're right, Pamela. Why don't all states carry the same trial laws? According to the US Constitution, all the hearsay seems very unconstitutional. Christ is king indeed. Because we're not a federal system. We're a state system. Each state is its own entity. Just the same reason France and England don't have the same laws or Germany? They have weird laws. Same reason Germany and France don't have the same laws even though they share common water. I'm curious what yours and Daisy's thoughts will be about the flash drive. Thanks for everything you both do to keep us informed on. So much. We appreciate you. I hope I gave it to you. If AK ever had an intelligent thought, it passed away from loneliness. Oh goodness, Grace. That's an. That's an interesting way to put it. I showed the wrong mountain of evidence. Twin Peaks. Oh gosh. Talking about Stacy. Mountains of evidence. Baron in red because he's on fire. It was a conscious decision. If I'm being honest, I. I was so mad today watching all this. It really was the X stuff that made me so mad. G' day guys. You are bloody awesome. That's the best I can do. I'm claiming number one most Australian Australian listening to you while at work. Saw a brown snake, pushed it with a broom to the door in a bucket and kept listening. You just gave me all the more reason not to go to Australia. Ever. You guys have weird animals. I just stopped watching the last episode. Watch this. Oh, don't do that. Go back and finish it. It was good if I. If I do say so myself. Have you looked into Jim Baker? Billy Grimm's fam and Greg Laurie connections?
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Officer Bagley
No.
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Baron Coleman
Victor Marks is also sprinkled in. Baker helps young prego moms now. Not sure he should be doing that. I mean, there's other people that can do. Second witness from today's preliminary trial blinked more than Paramount. Untactical when trying to provide Andrew's photo of proof for Erica. Embarrassing. Go Max B. Christ is king indeed. The Australian guy. Yeah, it wasn't pretty. Stacy showed up like Sue Ellen Mishke. Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure who advised her to wear that to court. Like we cover up in court. From below the knee to the neck, in arms. Like that's court. It's court. My B. I am that small channel that started I am two shot ass for subs. Help me Love you. Not too shy. You just did. Love ub love. FYI. Started watching your show since episode 7. Never missed one yet. Just winging at 7. Thank you. I appreciate it. Give them enough rope, Baron. The pressure is breaking them. Follow the money. I hear TPUSA is dumping it fast. Christ is king indeed. Well, Andrew's not helping. Going to people and say, hey, we're running Charlie's organization. Did you know he's a piece of trash and lied all the time. Donate millions to us. I'm not sure that's the way to do it. Thank you so much for your kind appreciation of your faith. It has brought me to the Catholic faith and I'm so grateful. Enjoy your grandbaby.
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Officer Bagley
Oh, thank you.
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Baron Coleman
Very kind of you. I'm always happy to hear people are going back to church. I really am. You know, it's. It's the most important thing. Most important thing. I am enjoying my Grammy. Thank you. Hi vp. After your opening statement, I feel like poor Charlie Kirk was 100 handled. Yes, that's why I gave the opening statement LOL on Andrew Meltdown, your favorite Humboldt county fan. P.S. in my 48 years, I've never partaken in the export here. I swear. Christ is king. Indeed. Good. I just watched a documentary on Humboldt county and it looked like everybody was stoned all the time. But I'm sure that was just like one neighborhood. Bring it on. I'm fuming today as I've continued to learn how much slop is being thrown around to discredit and smear Candace. I'm completely disgusted by these evil chumps. They always do this when she goes on vacation. They don't do this when she's in the office, sir. B infiltration op vibes here. Bill M found Charlie Kirk at 18. Yeah, weird, huh? AK and JM create a scandal to enter TPUSA. Yeah, weird, huh? Erica steps in and gets the ring. Yeah, weird, huh? Faith department swoops in like flies on doo doo and now they're all in charge. Yeah, weird, huh? Got a pretty good read on it. Similar to mine. Thoughts on Candace being an unwinning asset on the Sean Ryan interviews. He acted ignorant on issues he should have been aware of. Leading Candace to explain further. I hadn't really analyzed it in that way. It's an interview tactic. I noticed. Tucker does it a lot. He'll say, now who's that? And he knows exactly who it is. But he wants to, you know, give the glory to the guest. You're having a guest on? People are tuning in to hear the guests. Let the guest say who it is. Tucker could say, oh, that's so and so. You know him, but he doesn't.
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Officer Bagley
He doesn't.
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Baron Coleman
Who's that? First Super Chat questions. One SUV passenger carpet placed between two seats to catch debris. I don't think so. Two possible feds cleared hospital in advance and a witnesses and pulled cameras. So nobody knew. I don't know that that's true either. I don't know that's true. Either. Hello, beautiful people. AK is trying his best to make us believe all believe. CK was Charlie. Sorry. Charlie was Candace's handler. Does he not realize Candace can't be controlled? Just ask the people who fired her. Love and prayers.
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Katherine Nester
Yeah.
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Baron Coleman
I mean, he's just making Charlie look like a liar. It's bad. Like, it's a terrible thing. He's doing my b. Thank you for saying all things. I was yelling during trial all day in the first few minutes of your show. Whew. I didn't know who Charlie Kirk was. Watched Charlie Kirk debates and saw Candace, then found you watch daily. Thank you. Crisis king indeed. Well, Renee, that's wonderful. Thank you. Appreciate that. I like that you got Christ is king in your name there. Andrew just admitted they were managing Charlie, and Charlie seemed to be irritated by it. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Andrew wasn't the only one crashing out. So was Gary. Meltdown really having a meltdown today? He'll be so irrelevant. He doesn't show up on my feed like that's. That's how small he. Charlie was living the American dream, but woke up in our greatest allies territory. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Best part, exiting a Delta flight while listening to you. The captain smiled and said, listening to my humble host. Oh, also funny how to wait for the trial mattered for Chauvin, but not Tyler. Oh, that's a good point. That's last. Let me do the. Let me do them in reverse order. The last point is very true. I forgot about that. That was a big talking point on the right. Oh, wait for the trial. Wait for the trial. But Tyler doesn't get the same benefit. I'm glad to know we're being hurt at 35, 000ft, though. Pilots, thank you. You do good service. Get everybody there safely. Charlie was very subdued. 9, 10. Not himself. Did he see a handler in the audience or he just knew I felt this from day one. It's never mentioned. You got to think about what was going on in Charlie's life the couple of days before. He didn't sleep well the night before because for whatever reason, he didn't sleep well at all the night before. And he's texting people saying, they're gonna kill me. I don't think I had to see anybody in the audience. Just that alone is gonna make you subdued. No, he didn't seem himself either. And if you go to Charles McClintock Wilson's photo album called Last Set or something like that, whatever it is, it's pictures of Charlie right before it starts. And he almost looks like he's falling asleep in the chair. It's really sad. How does one aspire to be a handler? Does it pay well? LOL AKA Yoko Ono, John Lennon, Stacy Sheridan, Erica Kirk, Peter Thiel, J.D. vance, or all the honeypots that marry a politician? I don't know because I'm not a handler. I have no idea how it works. I don't know if you go to like handler school or they find you and compromise. I don't know. I don't know. But they're all. They're out there. I know that. My last day in my 30s today. Excited to be alive for my 40s. My birthday. Prayers that I stay sober and close to God. The full truth and justice comes to all involved in Charlie Kirk's death. I hope you stay sober. I will certainly pray for you for that. The 40s are my best decade. I enjoyed the 30s, but I'm really enjoying my 40s. I'm being honest. Level of AK crash out on day one. Wonder how bad it will get as the hearing goes on through the week? Psych Moral crisis or distraction from hearing Erica at hearing. I started off by thinking he might have just been like hungover or still drunk from the July 4th when it started. I really didn't know what to make of it. I have no idea why he chose to do that today. This is obviously a conscious decision to attack Candace this way and act like they weren't friends. But I don't know. Watched MK's clip with three attorneys I want to have an open mind to the evidence against tr, but listening to MK and the panel of experts defend the Fed slop with no opposing view is for infuriating. Yeah. I don't know what to say about yeah, I mean I watched a bit of it. She was one of the channels I flipped around on hearing relied entirely on hearsay for probable cause. Correct. If we're bypassing the sixth Amendment's confrontation clause at the preliminary stage, is there a defense left or is it just a rubber stamp? So it's it. This is hard to explain because he's being held against his will without bail. So normally in a preliminary hearing, you, you, you're not in prison or you're not in jail, you're at home,
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Officer Bagley
or
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Baron Coleman
at least you have the opportunity to go home. Most people are offered bail. He was not. And so to me it takes on a different requirement. They should have to meet a higher burden if no bail is offered. I think that's if I'm the Supreme Court. That's kind of how I look at this is no longer. Is it just determining whether you have to face trial, in which case the lower burden. I get it. Just what are we doing here? Do you have anything? Okay, well, let's go trial, see how it works out. But that's fine when you're home or at least have the opportunity to go home. It's altogether different when you don't. I mean, this. Honestly, this trial, we think it'll probably kick off at the end of 2027. It doesn't have to. It could be 2028 or later before he goes to trial. I mean, you're going to hold a man for three years against his will on hearsay testimony and fuzzy video footage and unauthenticated text. That seems awfully shady. There seems to be an epidemic of camera malfunctions. Technocrats should be very concerned about this. Oh, you know the only cameras not malfunctioning? Flock cameras. They don't malfunction at all. They work every time. Prayers for my fur baby. She just got bit by a rattlesnake. Let's catch up later. Oh, goodness. Nope. You get that? Taken care of. EK finally shows up wearing all black and not lace. The only time I've ever seen her in all black, she had lace on. Oh, other than the Italian server outfit where she went crazy on camera. SS and her 7 year old EK haircut. You know, there's that picture of Erica Kirk as a kid. Let me see if I can find it. She's got the same haircut. Let's see if I can find it here. Where is it? Oh, there it is. Look, she's wearing the Stacy Sheridan. Hold on. Let me. Let me back out of this. There we go. Ah, there we go. You gotta look at the right hand side of your screen here. Or I guess there's a colored one right next to it. Look. That's the same haircut Stacy Sheridan showed up with today. It's wild, huh? I don't know. Maybe that's some handler stuff. I don't know what they do. I guess we know who's been dressing Erica's it. I literally zero style and flattery for Erica's body shape. Modern fashion or occasion burn the pink dress. I'm gonna take it easy on what she wears. I'm not a fashion. I'm not a big fashionista. I'm in Adidas joggers and Adidas hoodie and socks. Adidas socks. I should be sponsored. They should sponsor me. What do you got? What are you guys waiting on? Well, we now Know who's dressing uk. Both never wearing appropriate attire. Softcore. Yes. Yes, it was Softcore. It was. It reminded me of that video that Victor Marks watched to. To. To talk about princess warriors or warrior princesses. Same vibes. Don't watch that, by the way. It's not. It's not. No.
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Officer Bagley
Won't.
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Baron Coleman
Won't help your walk with God. Erica didn't even stop till the end. I don't know what that means. Stop texting about Lady Gardens the way. Oh, gosh, Baron, did you really start the opening statement without signaling? This is your opening statement with the hands. Oh, man. I did, didn't I? Sorry, guys. Thank you for your work. I'm learning a lot every day. Oh, gosh, I apologize. Maybe. Maybe I can get my editor to go back and add that in. But he only edits the clips channel, so I don't. I don't know if I. We have to pay him to make an edit on this. It'll just be me and all said. And it'll be right back to it. Clip, clip. Mountain of evidence is the size of Denmark's mountain. Boy, If I knew more about geography, I would get that. That looked like Blake Wynn with Erica. I know he was at the TPUSA Founders Bowl. I don't think that was him, but I don't know. I heard Uncle Beer and Aunt Kushner were watching the Kirk kids. They were shells found on a different building in a random gun holster. Crazy. Christ is king. Indeed. Well, so let's not fall victim to what the prosecution is doing here. Things that come out of the mouths of lawyers are not evidence. We cannot fall victim to that. So the fact that she said that doesn't mean that there were bullet shells on another building. That said, lawyers are advised not to make wild. What are your thoughts on them? Hang on just a second. I was told. I don't know. I don't know. I had a conversation with an accountant about it, and I cannot. Honestly can't remember what the advice was. I need to. I need to go back and revisit that conversation. This is because it's been like, six months. Good reminder. Thank you. I don't know that I have thoughts on them right now. Not educated thoughts that I'm ready to share. I watched on Trigger Smart today. He was fantastic. People kept asking him to get you on the show. You were so loved. I was so excited to see you today, Utah. Trust me, bro. Courthouse live all week. Well, thank you, lovey. Thank you. I might jump on for a minute here and there but I I don't want to do like an all day feed. Baron, do we remember EK saying she is pregnant with Charlie Kirk's third child in an interview? I don't. I think she said she hoped she was number one from Montreal speaking Frenchie of Frenchie. Seems DJ T Jr being potused son is intimidation. I hadn't thought of it that way. Per mtg on Mario Nafal DJT posted on Truth Social after CK elimination referred to CK Schlomo Pearl AKA useful idiot oh unwitting asset. Love you my B asking for prayers for final custody hearing from my daughter. She's with my ex and isn't safe. Attorney said odds are very, very good. May the Lord be in your favor if that's true. Baron, I trust you more than anyone else to keep us updated on what's happening in the courtroom. I'm incredibly stressed about this and my anxiety just keeps growing. Your updates mean a lot to me. Oh your comments mean a lot to me.
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Officer Bagley
Thank you.
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Baron Coleman
Very kind of you. A very kind praise. Thank you. My son called and said, mom, don't watch. He was sorry he had seen it. It's awful, just awful. I've seen it since and wished I had listened to him. Love you be yeah, unfortunately, I don't think I would have been able to do this show without having watched it. So from that perspective, I'm glad I watched it because I feel like we've made done a lot of good work. But like, I don't think my wife has ever seen it. I hope she doesn't. I hope nobody, I mean I hope nobody who doesn't feel like they need to see it hasn't seen it. Doesn't I stop spanking my cat to watch this? No, you can't spank a cat. We've talked about this. King B.
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Katherine Nester
Edge.
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Baron Coleman
Don't ridicule Stacy Sheridan. She's giving. She's another grieving cougar. I mean widow. Her girls are openly grieving. Oh gosh. Yeah, they were open, gruesome. But I disagree. I think every single person should see it. People need to understand how awful violence murder is. That's. That's a different take, Jill. Different take. Eric and Don Jr. Showed up just to look at the judge and remind him that he's been paid off. That's my opinion. And allegedly they're very evil people. Well, that's your opinion. So glad we're watching this live. Thanks for putting out such top tier content. I do my best. I do my best. The way you believe in this judge reminds me of the old days when you gave Erica grace for being a grieving widow. I do not trust this judge or defense team. Well, Adriana, I don't know that I ever said, hey, she's a grieving widow. Gritting, grieving widow. Leave her alone. I think what I said was, you guys make your own calls. But as for me, I'm not going to sit here and comment on her because I don't know how widows are supposed to grieve. I've never been one. And then she turned out just to have a track record I couldn't ignore. And I finally weighed in and gave my thoughts. Judges paid off or he wouldn't let this go on like this. Well, I mean, I don't think he did anything wrong today. I really don't. My gut is it's usually almost 100, right? And this guy's bought and paid for it. Well, we'll find out. Well, I don't know that we'll find out. We'll see how it goes. AK said Charlie told him we don't lie. Yet Mr. Covet and company by saying Charlie and Candace weren't friends, are saying he was a liar. Also, we can't forget the glass on the floor. Christ is king indeed. Both good points. Hey, B. The guy in the courtroom behind the family was the wind guy again. Yeah, that's two people saying it. I don't know that I caught that image. Got timed out for mentioning penetration crisis during the Cold War. That wasn't a joke. That really happened. Asset recruitment. Recruitment is wild. I don't know what that means. Let me see if I can find anybody having mentioned Blake Wynn today. Maybe gotten a picture. Oh, people are saying that's Blake Wynn, but I don't see him. Is it the last guy that walks through? I don't think that's him. I don't think that's him. I don't know, but I don't think that's him. When I first saw the Big Bang happen, I screamed and fell to my family room floor and bawled my eyes out. My hubby and son walked in, and I was inconsolable. I followed him for years and listened to him daily. A lot of people had a tough reaction to that. Very tough. If a deal is going to be offered, at what point would that happen? Christ is king indeed. Well, you certainly wouldn't entertain a deal before the preliminary hearing. It would be anytime after next week. You think Don Jr. Was there to be covered for the Secret Service being there to protect Erica? Oh no, I don't think so. I don't even think they stayed in the same place. I can't tell you why I think that Charlie's mom exited the courtroom in front of Erica before the break. They were sitting together. Poor CK's parents. I don't know that it's odd they were sitting together. I mean it's her daughter in law. Thoughts on the casing? Found a different location than tr I don't know because I don't We've not seen that evidence. First I heard of it. She just offhandedly mentioned it. My B. I owe you a thanks buddy. My PT therapist is a germaphobe and because you got me sicky icky I don't have PT now till Friday. So thanks might be Haha. You better be doing your homework at home. Your homework PT you better be doing I've explored how I'd feel if my friend was exed in a group text where she stuck up for herself surfaced evoking my name to scare them off. If she was his tormentor, he wouldn't have wanted her to come in and make it worse. She was more likely his ace. I don't think she tormented him. I mean again, the only thing we have to go on that says that is Andrew's super secret conversations with a dead guy. Everything he said publicly, everything he said by text seems to support precisely Candace's version of events. I'm finally watching live. I'm still catching up from four months ago. I heard a rumor and I don't know how to verify Charlie filed for divorce. I don't. I. I have covered it already and I. I've got no evidence of that. Who was the media guy that asked for transparency when it comes to pics videos to the gallery? I don't know. I don't know his name. Crazy how many cameras don't work in this country. Officer's body camera dies an hour 44 into a shift when those batteries can last up to 18 hours depending on brand. Can't help but think perjury Christ is king indeed. Yeah, I think I'm not buying it. I'm not buying the dead battery stuff. Judge Graff is amazing, imo. I think he did an okay job today. I mean, you know, we'll see how he continues. This week we're seeing the fruits of Andrew Wilson's teachings on AK's X account. I wonder if Andrew Wilson has access to Andrew's account because some of the verbiage and tone doesn't sound like Andrew More aggressive, like Andrew Wilson talks. I don't know hardly anything about Andrew Wilson. I mean, almost nothing. I know it's not a guy followed. I've seen him do a couple fouled mouth clips with people. That's all I've seen. I know nothing about them. 7:30, 7 Eastern. 30,000 viewers. Hit the like. Oh, yeah. Hit the like. I'm sure we're doing fine. YouTube screwed up the back end. It's got four clip, four clicks now to see the likes. It used to be one. Does the jury attend or hear what is said or presented in the preliminary hearing? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Is it true the prosecution selects TR's attorneys? If so, how and why is that fair to tr? Or did I misunderstand? You misunderstood. You misunderstood. The. The defense attorneys are selected I by the state. They're paid for by the state. I mean, that's the. The great problem with being a criminal defendant is everything is stacked against you. The judge, the prosecution, oftentimes your lawyers. All paid by the same people. All the investigators, all the police officers, same people. And it's just you hoping that you get a fair shake. Baron, thank you so much for all the hard work you do to keep us up to date on everything. Thank you. Very kind. Delightful. If I was disgusted seeing junior walk in with ek, I know CO is beside herself. Charlie considered him a brother in his silence says it all. I'm glad we finally got a glimpse into CK's parents. I since discussed. I will say Mr. Kirk certainly did not appear amused with Stacy's girls. Or Stacy's hand reaching out to touch him. He seemed to move quickly past her. I watched trigger Valhalla court live stream from beginning to end and hopped over here. I'm committed. Thank you for bringing the truth. Christ is king indeed. I'm doing my best down here, Malloy. You sound educated. You know more about it than most people. Did you really just say no one has asked Aubrey for her list to send letters of evidence preservation steep USA going to sue the representation on their e. O after this feels negligent at best, criminal at worst. Imo. I did say that. I confirmed that with her today in writing so no one can say it didn't happen. A crystal ball. Why was defense saying shot? No before picks of roof and ground below. They could have set those things up prior to 10th. I felt she should have objected more. Keep in mind, nothing she says at the preliminary hearing is going to bind them in any way for trial, so it's irrelevant. So what's the takeaway from all this information today kiddos, Jesus loves you but your government is occupied and actively against you. Not a bad take. Someone should grandma request the UVO officer's body cam device audit trail for that day per axioms documentation a seven column CSV gets created with battery percentage is one of the columns. Oh, not a bad idea. Why don't you do it, Amir? Mean what? You should be that someone let me know how it works out. I want the footage of Spider man before he ran off the roof. Yeah, well don't we all. Don't we all? I didn't take the defenses stating they found another bullet casing. I took it as her asking if he heard of any other casing found. What's your take? Yeah, I mean what she says is not evident so I don't know all the flags Footage shows roof suspect running immediately after shot. No time to disassemble rifle. No bulges from rifle, concealment apparent. So as to the disassembling after the shot, I. I want to correct this because it's. It keeps coming up and it comes up by people who mean well. But I. I think it's inaccurate. So initially the governor of Utah held a press conference where he said that after the shot the suspect disassembled the rifle. I don't know rifle. I don't know why he said that but he did. Their story has changed. They no longer say he disassembled the rifle on the roof so that that has changed. Is it gravel or riverstone on the LOSI building? Huge difference in my mind. I. I don't know. Maybe we'll find out. Good evening.
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Officer Bagley
Me.
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Baron Coleman
What are your thoughts about the state presenting pure hearsay evidence after six plus hours? It was shocking frankly that not one person had personal knowledge. Baron, did broadcasting help your orator skills or did lawyering help your broadcasting skills? I think those are similar skill sets but also have their nuances which strengthens which if at all. Thank you. Love you my B. Christ is king indeed. Good question. So when I was in college, I took a lot of communications classes. I always figured I wanted to speak in public. I wasn't good at it. My early like my com100 class, the very first communications class I took was a disaster. I was so nervous I could barely speak in front of a class of like 10 people when. So I took several public communications classes in college just as electives, just to get better at it. When I was in law school, I took every trial advocacy advocacy class I could get. I did the Summer two week program or one week program, whatever it was, where you go and you study and they teach you trial advocacy skills. I thought I wanted to try cases. And in trying a bunch of cases, you. You naturally get better. I mean, you get better with anything you do, provided you're practicing and trying to get better. Broadcasting, I think, is its own animal. It's totally different skill set. And I feel like when I first started broadcasting, I was an absolute nervous wreck. I said almost nothing. I said as little as I could. Quickly, meekly. Had no real voice for broadcasting. But over time, you find your footing. You like riding a bike or roller skating. You get better over time and you. You start trying new things and you figure out what works and doesn't work. So I don't know. I don't think. I'm not saying I'm great at either, but thank you for the question. That's the best I can give you. Evening, Baron. Say hi to my hubby, Joe Daddy. He's watching you live with me on Baby Girl. Oh, and Baby Girl. Not on Baby Girl. We call her BBG in text. He's off the road for a few days. On the road. Over the road. Trucker fam. We love you. Keep it up. Christ is king indeed. Hey, Joe Daddy. You guys sound like you have a lot of nicknames in that family. It died while the unknown man with a gun and a badge. That's crazy. Based on the evidence so far, I think it might have been me. Crisis King indeed. I hope it wasn't you. I hope the judge saw that and
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Officer Bagley
thought,
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Baron Coleman
that smells a little steady uppy to me, if I'm being honest. Scampering and waddling. Oh my. Yeah, yeah. But he did my B. I'm calling it number one. From Leeds, England. You may have it, sir. Congrats on the win last night. We watched it. Joining late EK doppelganger. Came from separate. Came separate to trick other blonde. And also judge said that victims can exit and return after first or second break. Victims. But I don't know about all the crew with the victim. That's.
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Officer Bagley
That's.
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Baron Coleman
I think the judge got to work on that. I work sell guns and I put them together. Never have I had to use a screwdriver to put one together or take apart. They say that's how you take this Mauser apart. I don't know. I don't know much about it. Amazing how all the cameras managed to fail at critical moments. What a stroke of luck. Isn't that crazy? Dairy Queen camera didn't Fail. My battery died. Isn't that an admission of incompetence? Well, it's. Something. Edge. He signed up for this event. He'd only been on duty a couple hours, and his body cam poops. He and AK must have the same battery. Oh, that's right. Andrew's phone died as well. We forgot that. They should consult with Frank. His battery is a beast. Conclusion? Liar. Oh, that's right. Oh my gosh, Edge, what a great comment. So Andrew's phone craps out the day after the event. Strangely, his phone breaks and Frank Turek has a battery that could power a Tesla on a cross country drive. He was on FaceTime for seven hours. Incredible. Mr. Bagley, did you witness the two utes enter the sack of suds? That's a great movie. That's a great movie. Your honor, I object. Too fake and gay. Yeah, unfortunately that's not one of the objections you're given. You're not allowed that one. That prone position print looks like a sea turtle. Yeah, okay. I'll allow it. Found some FBI info, emails. Color of the day was yellow for 910. Several field offices for all. Now. Going to go back and look for anything yellow in crowd vids. Okay, let me know what you find. It was Officer Doofy reporting for duty. I'll allow it. Baron, wouldn't we expect there would be much more gravel disturbed near the sniper's nest without quickly the suspect got up and ran away after the shot. Love your insights. I don't know. I'm not familiar with sniper nest gravel disturbances. I haven't. I didn't take that class. It's clear it's an op. Well, that kind of seems like it. With the civilian clothed, badged, gun wielding man from unknown law enforcement agency and battery at Critical Junction dying. Does the defense have to turn over evidence to prosecution? Of course, of course. Safe to assume Andrew had full eyes full on Erica eyes during this epic crash out on X today. Still, may we know how badly he wants to be part of this or any high IQ outfit. AKA you're getting killed, Smalls. Not Andrew's best day. I. I just don't see how he stays with tpusa. That prone position looks more like someone was making angels in the gravel. Such bs. At what point will they just stop? Christ is king and Jesus loves you. I don't know. Stop. So there's a gunman on the losi and you're up there with someone with a gun, but you don't know who he is. Yeah, that's precisely what the Question was, so body cam went dead, but he couldn't take pics with his phone at the scene on the roof. What about body cam? Pick of empty holster. Keystone Cops. Well, you're giving him a lot of credit to say Keystone Cops guy behind EK at court. What nephew is Blake Wynn? I don't know that. I don't think that's accurate. Let's speculate. TR told his defense team he did not shoot ck. Shouldn't the defense then demand to review the autopsy report? Report to rule out death by gunshot? Well, the. I mean, I'm sure they've requested the autopsy report. Can't imagine you go to trial without that having seen it. Do you think it's possible that they staged CK death because they were going to kill him and EK couldn't pull off grieving widow, so the plan fell apart. And CK wasn't worried about TR no evidence they'd make sure to get him off. I mean, is it possible? Anything's possible. I mean, space aliens may have come in and planted a probe in them in the middle of the night. I don't know. That doesn't sound likely.
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Officer Bagley
Back.
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Baron Coleman
We're supposed to be the crazy ones because we refuse to breathe. This slop is both astounding and disgusting. Thanks for all you do, Baron. I'm doing my best up here. Doing my best. But, yeah, we're the nuts ones. I don't see how anyone can watch day one and be like, oh, mountains of evidence. Weird first lawsuit I found. Looks like TP representation knew how to send legal holds and preserve evidence as recently as 2024. Caro Hogitis versus TPUSA. I mean, I think anybody knows how to send a request to hold. State's motto is worse for first. Okay. Girls are usually put away before entering the courtroom. Only reps from TPUSA arrive in grieving outfits. Is that her grieving outfit? Oh, I hate to see her going to a club outfit. Boobs out for court. Dear Lord, these people are so out of touch. Poor Charlie's parents. I hope they know we pray for them. Kristen. Yeah, Critter, I think you're right. They are very out of touch. Out of touch? I'm not sure we want to use the phrase out of touch when talking about that subject. AK is not a studied PR man. Clearly. Clearly he's not. He sucks at it. Because PR was his cover. Like Ryder was Blake Neff's cover when he infiltrated Stu, Peters, Tucker and ck all operators and handlers. True psychopathy is evident. Yeah, maybe I'm Here, mate. And I am all for it. Wow. Stacy Sheridan crawled out from under, didn't she? I mean, it honestly. Looks like she just got back from the club the night before and threw on a coat. Appreciate your knowledge, man. God bless. God bless you as well. Thank you. Why is this Star Chamber show even being allowed? It's tantamount to a humiliation ritual. It's a good question. It's a good question. We'll see if it gets better. I have to say, I was very bored watching day one. Real court is nothing like TV shows. I warned you people it's boring. I warned you by tweet. I told Matt from Trigger Smart that it's boring. He asked me if I wanted to be on. I was like, ah, they're boring. I'll hit the highlights. When I do a show with the overwhelming feeling that TR is a patsy, is it worthwhile to send encouraging letters to him at Utah County? He should know the public believes he's a patsy. I guess. Send him whatever you want. I'm certainly not recommending it. You know, I'm not telling you what to do, though. Hit the like button, please. Oh, yeah, hit the like button. You guys. Are you guys doing lousy likes wrong with you people? Let's see here. Oh, we've got good likes. I mean, about half of people watching, but we could do better. Okay, tighten up. Hit the likes. Hit the likes. Heavyset. I was screaming for her to do it. She would have mortified him. Yes, Jill, you sound like a trial lawyer knowing how to get an advantage over a witness. Because I, thinking back, would have loved to see her do that. You said heavyset. Am I heavyset? How heavyset are we talking? Ah, you would have seen her get the total upper hand over a witness in one question. Officer Bag Me looks like the kind of dude that has stuff on his computer the FBI found to make him a patsy. Couldn't have been less credible. Wow. Not going to go that far. They might look like it, but I'm not going to accuse him of it. B body cam only turns on when activated. It would not have even been on for the hour. It also alerts on the cam that the battery is low. What? Wait, did he say stranger with gun was his backup? Yes, and there are some body cams that can. That can continually record, but, yes, he did say a stranger with a gun and an unknown badge was his backup. He wasn't heavyset. Officer Low Battery Bagley. Useful Idiot Yellow Battery Bagley. I like that. No Battery Bagley. That's funny. He made me laugh. So, Frank Turk's phone battery lasted longer. Lasted longer than Barney Fife's body cam battery. Thanks for all you do. Crisis king. Indeed, Frank. We hear it lasts a long time. The battery on your phone. Am I heavy set? I haven't laughed in a week. Thank you for that. Well, thank you, Boise jet guy. Appreciate our Egyptian jet guy now. Hi, Baron. So when the trial does start, if the defense does concede a gunshot, you think that would mean they're in on it? So afraid that's where this is heading, that even Tyler knows the outcome. Hate to be that cynical.
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Officer Bagley
Ah,
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Baron Coleman
Let's wait and see. I mean, let's see how it progresses. I don't want to make that call right now. I was unaware Deputy Dewey had been cast in the movie about the demise of Charlie Kirk.
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Officer Bagley
Yeah.
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Baron Coleman
Would you have any high IQ advice for my daughter Josie, who just graduated high school early at 15. This proud mama may be your number one fan. From world famous Courthouse Tower Tree, Greensburg, Indiana. Christ is king indeed. World famous, you say? I don't know. I mean, coach her up. You're her mom or dad, Joni. I'm guessing you're a mom. I really don't have advice. I don't know. I didn't have a kid graduated 15. I don't have a comparison. Depends on what she wants to do. Like if she wants to be a doctor, she got to go to college. She wants to be an accountant, she has to go to college. Engineer has to go to college. But there's a lot of jobs that don't require it. Maybe take a. Maybe take a. A year of just working, see how. See how she likes it. I don't know what you can do at 15. So the unknown unidentified offer in civvies could have been a suspect as far as that officer would know, which wasn't much. Yeah, could have been anybody with a badge they bought on. You know, at Party City. There's no crash out like an Andrew Colvitt crash out. No, there's not. They're bad, Baron. Your honor, I've never laughed this hard. From any of your other shows. You are comedically summarizing today's court session. Well done, sir. I'm doing my best up here. I'm just being myself. OIC American. It was Officer Tater Tot. Yeah, it was an OIC American. I forgot about that. I did say that, didn't I? As coach's lawyer, he doesn't know yet. I have no other choice but to find you, sir, for that use of Mama and mountain of evidence amount to be determined. I'll allow it. Just keep it under. Keep it double digits. First time in super chat. I watch you faithfully right after Candace. This is looking like a kangaroo court. The American people need to really pay attention because this matters on a much bigger scale. Well, for a first time super chatter, you didn't have trouble yelling in the courtroom. I'll allow it. Thank you. Welcome in. Welcome in from that state. And can you say 99? Sure. He's from here. Oh, oh, Australia. He's Australian, mate. How you know he's not a Zealander or whatever they call him? Kiwi and Ozempic American. Laughing so much. Girls out. Yes, both very true. Both very true. Baron. I'm just joining in. Wanted to draw the parallel between intelligence assets and major political figures. The format for a time was in things like the president's daily brief. I believe that. I believe that. Ozempic American. Yeah, I didn't realize I was gonna hit like that. I just said it in the moment. I didn't even have that one planned. In his testimony, he said the fir. He first saw the screwdriver, which is why he went over there contradicting video where he says he finds the prince first. Wow. Imagine that. Imagine that guy's contradicting himself. I can only imagine how good of a lawyer you were. If you're anything like you are on this podcast, you must have dominated the courtroom. I just stick your breakdowns going forward. Well, I. I didn't have quite as much fun in court, but I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. But you got to, you know, it's a serious decorum. Judges aren't up there with propellers on their hats, you know? Might be. He said to send you a super. So I can borrow the rights to OIC American on the job site tomorrow. Thank you, sir. Yeah, you can have it. You can have it. You can have it. Charlie was a willing asset who changed. You don't surround yourself only with the likes of Blake Neff and company and lie for our greatest ass ally for years by mistake. Maybe. I don't know. My heart aches for Tyler's parents.
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Officer Bagley
Yeah.
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Baron Coleman
All that conversation today about who was there for Erica. Not one person mentioned who was there for Tyler that I could see. I don't even know. Might be fun fact. Agent Poso, AKA Jack Posobec, has a comic book written about him. It did not disappoint. Check your inbox if you want a good laugh. Well, thank you. I'll check it out. Sounds fun. An Officer responded to a gunshot, approached the location from where he thinks the shot was taken. He was followed by a man in civilian clothes who had a gun. And he never thought to ask. Hey, who the hell are you? Wow. Well, that's his story. That's his story. Random man in civvies with gun at the scene of a shooting. Come on up, Buster Brown. I pray that TR's lawyers are watching all of your shows religiously. That would be the smartest decision in the case. Christ is king indeed. I don't know what they're doing. There was a guy in the crowd that had a badge on, and he pulled it off his shirt when he saw the camera pointed at him. Yeah, I remember that. Remember that? He had a mustache. Did you notice Tucker's facial expressions when Andrew talked about removing the SD card? Seemed like he thought it's sus. God bless the community. Community. Yeah, I saw that. I noticed. Go, Max Bear. It sickens me when I go on. My X feed is filled with Andrew and Blake lying, sharing propaganda. How do they sleep at night? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe they believe it. Utah, the only state you can get probable cause from a Ouija board in a vision of the shaman's baby daddy. Yeah, it's starting to look that way. I'm sorry, but I couldn't take it anymore. I wanted to keep going, but the weather was so hot and I was overheating badly. So my owner ended my pain. Turned me off. With regards, Officer Bagley's body cam. That might have been what happened. Good call. Thank you, Baron, for keeping us updated throughout this trial. Your knowledge will be unmatched. Well, thank you. I don't know about unmatched. There's a lot of good people doing good work out there. But I appreciate your faith. I know some pick American. Yeah, well, it just sort of came out. The SD cards were paved over. SD card emergency? That's what it's starting to sound like. Where are the SD cards? The who chose this jurisdiction? Why here? Well, maybe we're starting to learn edge. Haven't finished yesterday's episode due to life. Well, beats the alternative. Sorry if mentioned the false eyelashes aren't unusual. If a lady doesn't want her fake tears to ruin her mascara was not mentioned. Thank you, Baron. I love the thought that TR's defense team is watching. Please, God, keep Tyler safe. Owens for dictator 2028. Christ is King indeed. I would serve in that administration. I'd rather be the dictator, but I'll serve in that administration. Andrew's an idiot. Why else would Candace be going through all of this? Of course they were friends. Christ is king. Indeed. Well, you could have just stopped after that first sentence. You think maybe Andrew Wilson was hired to respond to debates with Candace and AK the crash out doesn't sound like him. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. Again, I don't put a lot of thought into that guy. I don't really know who he is. I did a small bit of prep because we did a segment on him the other day in terms of who all TPUSA is hiring, but he's not someone I follow closely, so I don't know his language well enough to know if that sounds like him or not. Did you see anything that hurt Tyler today? Go back over my notes. It's a good question. No. No, because even all the video footage they claimed they got from tpsa, none of it showed Tyler Robinson. Like, they had a camera on the questioner that didn't show Tyler Robinson. They had a camera on Charlie that didn't show Tyler Robinson. They had a camera from the back.
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Katherine Nester
But you.
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Baron Coleman
We saw the vision they had. That. That did not cover Tyler Robinson. I don't. I didn't. I didn't see a thing. I mean, maybe the gray car showing up at 1:30 at night or 1:00', clock, whatever time that was. Maybe you could say that. I mean, that car. But, you know, can you put him in the car? I mean, we're talking reasonable doubt here. Can you put him in that car? I didn't see anything that put him in the car. I don't know. And he doesn't know how close they actually were? It doesn't sound like it. Should I go stand outside the courthouse with a sign that says TPUSA equals toilet paper usa? I would love ideas for signs. Please share your idea for a sign, Helga. Shabbalabading Dong. I don't recommend it. Just. Just let. Let it take place. I don't recommend interfering in any way. If you want to go observe, go observe. But don't.
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Officer Bagley
Don't.
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Baron Coleman
I wouldn't cause a scene. If only Officer Bagley had the same battery life in his body cam that Frank Turek has on his phone. Oh, he'd still be recording 10 months later. CK was a lying manipulator like them. Or he wasn't. Oh, yeah, either. Or one or the other. Three cameras, one road mic, four files. I didn't see one that was labeled a road mic. I saw all video files. And pull it back up. I don't see any of those. That would be a video file. These videos labeled no, he said all four were videos. He didn't say any of them were audio so I I I'm gonna, I'm gonna dispute that Terell gave SBI vidlinks not original SD card that's his testimony. That's his testimony. Shout out from mom Kayin and Darren high IQ kids Christ is king indeed. I'm sure they are if they're your kids I would expect nothing less. K is going max on Andrew and we are all here for it. Christ is king indeed. Left my family dinner to watch this oh, sorry guys. Please accept my deepest and Sincerest apologies and OIC American B Coleman 2026 well, yeah, they're out there. Charlie insisted he would not end his friendship shortly before his death. Is AKA or a liar one or the other not sure if mentioned but body cam do give three types of warning if battery is about to be empty you don't see it in the video but it is on the body cam log. Okay, we need to get the log. I hope the defense has the log. I'm pretty sure there's a clip of Blake laughing like a Jack Heiney where Andrew's explaining Charlie does a lie Love the show. Yeah, I played it on here. We talked about it. I think I called it a maniacal cackle. If they weren't friends, why did Trump ask CK to call CO about McCrone's hubby? That's a great question. That's a really good question. Nicely put together. Mary Kendrick great addition to the program. Had SD card been turned over deleted files could be recovered Many investigators don't know there are programs for that helped get a conviction for the voyeurism case. RT my kids. RT my kids. Hand over the card Terrell. Christ is king indeed. Terrell card dande okay your majesty I'm sorry I'm a little behind but the heavy set crash out has me in tears. Wow. I'm sorry. Should have said should have asked him I heavyset I cannot breathe. I wish you were doing the closing. Well, I just want to question that Officer B had me rolling after ozempic American in my opinion defense shouldn't only object on constitutional basis the mountain of evidence is a molehill. Now they'll have a chance to make that case to the judge. I think Candace needs to remind everyone that she has a dead man switch she said in the beginning of the investigation but she has a lot more evidence now and should remind everyone Andrew, give Me, the creeps. Wow. That goes without saying. Is that Blake Wynn in the court by his sister? I don't. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think so. I wish Charlie was still there to tell. Funny story of him and Candace in Jerusalem. I'm praying. Pretty sure that's when France Fay said she saw Charlie Kirk for the first time. It is. Yeah. Same trip. What do you think about Officer Chris Bagley not having his body cam fully charged? Lost battery. And the gun holster? He didn't pick up. Thanks. I've commented on both. Well, I've commented at length on the body cam battery. We don't know that it was actually a dead battery. You're giving him a lot of faith. This is a guy who stormed the LOSI center with an unknown man in civilian clothing and a gun and a badge. He didn't verify and doesn't remember what agency it was from, so let's not take him at his word. Okay? I think it's safe to say we can disregard some of the things he said. As to the gun holster. Yeah, I mean, I think he should have at least alerted someone to it. You know, SD card is also a flash drive. USB and SD are both flash, correct? Well, I think technically correct. However, in his statement, he doesn't mention handing over the SD card. He says he provided it by Google Drive. That's all he says. I think AK was originally sent to handle ck, but when they realized how close his friendship was with Candace, they had to send EF to handle him. In his personal life, Charlie required multiple handlers. That's, you know, not. Not out of the realm of possibility. Thank you, Baron. Explaining today, legal proceedings, several terms and details I know nothing about. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and continuing your search for truth. Christ is king indeed. Thank you. I'm doing my best up here. Merch idea. Never forget Caesar Rodney. 7:2, 1776. Yeah, Cesar. Rodney had quite the ride. Yeah, it would be nice to draw attention to the man from Delaware. Charlie told AK we don't lie when speaking on CK pod with Tucker. Yeah, that's true. Did AK Forget he shared his memory of Charlie? When AK Wanted to lie to someone and solve a problem, Charlie reminded him we don't lie. Well, Charlie's not here anymore, and Andrew seems to be full of it. Why have all convos come in the last three months? Christ is king. I don't know that. I know what that means. I thought Charlie Kirk told Andrew we don't like. Yeah, well, if no additional evidence comes out in these proceedings. They're all cooked. Saw nothing today and don't expect after today. I think they're relying on the text messages. I think they're going to try to fry them on the text messages. That's that might get you to trial but that's not going to get you convicted. I got bad news. They better have something better than that. Akai tried to smear Charlie Kirk back in 2018 or so. Does anyone remember the home video she leaked out making Charlie look bad Wouldn't let her take the car to get grocery store and then all of a sudden it went away. Christ is king indeed. I don't remember clip that Daisy.
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Katherine Nester
Do.
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Baron Coleman
Do you remember that? I don't remember that. He said night before I'm thinking about getting Candace back. No other choice but to leave the pro greatest ally cause they're walking all over his legacy Candace trying to keep his legacy alive. He's a proud of it. She's he is proud of his friend and so blah at Ek akm Blake. Yeah. Oh, that's correct. They just keep digging themselves a deeper hole. It's a bad habit they have. Flock safety had a huge footprint in Ogden last September. Some officers FBI searched vehicles. None of them were a sports muscle car at all. Check email. Thanks for your work. Okay, hold on. Lock safety. Huge footprint in Ogden. Some officer. Okay, thank you. With the entire media deep state apparatus against Candace at the time. If they were not friends, why not denounce her then? Yeah, I mean the whole thing is ludicrous. Can we get some merch? I have questions. Love you my B. Hope to be lucky enough to have a friend like Candace, an attorney like you, should I ever need one. Christ is king indeed. Keep going, Max. Don't get yourself in a position where you need a lawyer. How about that? Let's just settle on that. Thank you. Very kind.
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Officer Bagley
Very kind.
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Baron Coleman
Do you think CK's team kept him from X so Charlie wouldn't see Erica's past? No, because I mean you can search X without a password, you just can't say anything. Tpusa has sounded been more like Scientology. The further we go Scientologist handbook states ruin them utterly. No matter how Andrew is showing this as well as calling TPSA the org, I'm. I'm very unfamiliar with Scientology. I'll admit I know almost nothing about it. I know there was a guy named L. Ron Hubbard. He wrote a book. And I know that a lot of people follow some methodology he created. I know nothing about it.
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Officer Bagley
Thank You.
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Baron Coleman
I didn't think AK realizes what he's doing to Charlie's legacy. If he does, he's evil. Oh, I think he does. I think he's. He's desperately thrashing around and willing to take Charlie down to save himself. Love you be best show ever. Justice for Charlie. Well, we're doing our best here. Thank you. My father passed away yesterday. Oh my gosh. 95 and strong until the end. I'm only sad because he isn't physically present. A Christian man. Daily Bible. Can't imagine the glory he's experiencing. Christ is king indeed. Oh my goodness. What a beautiful story. You almost can't be sad. Someone dies at 95. I mean, you are, but you can't be right. That's a long life. My condolences to you. Genuinely. Why is nobody looking at we are not going to Mars X theory that explains every single thing, including a laser to the back of Charlie's head. I find his theory evidence very interesting. I think it's his presentation. I watched the video, but I think his presentation was not ideal. It makes it hard to to disseminate Snef telling CO luckily we don't need an influencer campaign. We have medical examiner is very sus to me. Maybe the reason they met with him after CO saw the back footage. Terrifying. I don't know that they met. I. I don't know when they met with the examiner. But I will say this, I think and I'll. I'll look this up and I'll. I'll have these facts at some point. I think there's a law in Utah about when the medical examination has to be done and complete and signed and I think they wanted to see about how widely disseminated the back footage was before finishing it. That's my gut. My guess is it's like 10 or 12 days and they were running up against the deadline. But I got to check that out. Andrew Wilson couldn't commit his daily question for you more than three days. I don't know what you're talking about. No idea what you're talking about. Ignore all the Candace opinions in relationship with Charlie. Look only at the objective facts presented. Baron and others and tpusa along with the feds still smell rotten. Yes, yes. We all remember AK saying Charlie told me we don't ever lie. Ug. I was married to a narcissist. It's like reliving that nightmare. You calling Andrew a narcissist. Great closing argument against Andrew Colvette. Crisis king Go Max Baron. Well, I Just had to get a few things off my chest to clarify. All evidence seems to have come recently. Evidence? In the case? I don't know what you mean. Charlie wasn't afraid of Candace but I'm sure he was concerned with the rabid individuals who want everyone to denounce her at every turn. Colvette is a liar. Well, we agree on that. He admitted it. He admitted his instinct was to lie. I'm not speaking out of turn here. Body cam footage dying conveniently when he's on the roof is strikingly similar in Karen Reed trial when they butt dialed each other repeatedly. A KBN and EK are evil pathological liars. Go Max B. Christ is king indeed. Well, he's certainly acting like it. He's calling Charlie Kirk one I'm so thankful I never watched the footage of the big bang. I fell to my knees when I came in from walking the dog when the television said he'd been shot. Thank you for all you do. Love you and Christ is king. Yeah if you don't have to watch it and you don't have a reason to, it's gruesome. It's not worth watching. Ivan, Andrew, take a good look in the mirror. Are you proud of what you see? Hell is waiting. Oh my gosh. Christ is king indeed. Ivan is. Ivan is blunt. Ivan is blunt. Haven't been able to watch live miss everyone moving in to help with first grandson born with ultra rare condition rob on 70 cases worldwide. Pray for him. Crisis king indeed.
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Officer Bagley
I will do that.
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Baron Coleman
He noticing. We'll do that. I don't know what RARB is. Ultra rare neurodevelopmental disease caused by mutations in the RARB gene. I'm sorry to hear that. Sorry to hear that Baron. You just went Max. Well I've just went. Just myself. Just being myself. Feel that AK should take my screen name Andrew, I will give it to you if you truthfully answer a question about a question of our humble host choosing. He just lied. Snake bite. He I. I honestly feel like you just lie. I'd like he's just, I think a deeply dishonest person. I. I have no other explanation for how he's acting right now. Ozempic American Sorry I'm late. Well it's okay.
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Officer Bagley
It's okay.
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Baron Coleman
We had our. We had our moment. I skipped my ultra classes to be well you could get caught up. Charlie was anything but a liar. Someone needs to remind Andrew that he is the villain. And Charlie texted him we don't lie. Why so triggered Andrew Sean Ryan episode broke him Praying for you, B. I think you're right. I think there's something to that. The Sean Ryan episode was devastating to their cause and they're having trouble recovering. It humanized Candace first. It gave her credibility being on the top five podcast, not her own. And it. They just. They just can't contend with what she says, so they just lash out. And the only thing they can do is. Is act like they. Yeah, that. That we don't lie business is telling. Because if he's telling Andrew privately. We don't lie. That means we don't lie. That means we don't lie to Candace either. And on text behind her back. New viewer here. Glad I found you in my timeline. Follow Candace and Fredo too. Charlie Kirk doesn't deserve this. Thank you, B. Thank you, Donna Bailey. Thanks for joining the program. Enjoyed it. Glad you're here, Baron. Funny how Andrew Corvette said that Charlie said no one on his team should tell a lie and that he would not let him lie when he wanted to. You and Daisy are amazing. Keep going, Max. Well, we're doing our best. Yeah, that's. You guys are making an excellent point. Charlie is the one who told Andrew we don't lie. And now you're saying Charlie lied all the time. So which is it? Either they do or don't? Either he does or doesn't lie. You're saying he does. I wouldn't want to be you right now. I would not want to be you going to the donor saying Charlie Kirk was a. An unadulterated liar. If you hurry, you may be able to find discount fireworks for the funeral. Sorry I had to. Prayers for you and Jeff's friends, family. Oh, because of Erica. Yeah, we don't. We don't grieve that way around here. That's not how we grieve. Skylark. My cousin Vinny joke. Yes, I understand. I got it. I feel bad for CK's parents. There unknowingly. Or maybe in a pit of vipers with little protection. Christ is king.
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Officer Bagley
Indeed.
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Baron Coleman
Yeah, starting to seem that way. If Andrew really knew how much Charlie disliked Candace, why would he respond to her at all after he was shot? That's a good question. If they weren't friends, why was Andrew engaging with her at all? Apparently he had so many text messages that his phone broke. Why would he choose to respond to her? Of all the different people he needs to respond to Andrew? You don't look good here, Baller. You look bad. I feel people overlooking what TPUSA was turned into after 2020. A massive vote getting machine. That's what bad actors want to control. Without Charlie, I think it's a money laundering scheme, but whatever. Do you think the weird route they drove to the hospital was to avoid flock cameras? I don't know what route they. I don't know. Is that weird? I mean, I looked at a map. It looked pretty normal. Crescendo. Ah. Was that the word I'm looking for? That's not the word I'm looking for. It builds to a crescendo. But there's some word for the end of a fireworks episode. A fireworks show. Finale. That's the word I'm looking for. The finale. The finale. If they have a video of the shooter running off the roof, wouldn't that mean they have a video of him taking the shot? Allegedly. They say they do. We haven't seen it. Still no proof TR was even on campus at all. Not yet. Not yet. I stopped reassembling my 3006 without a screwdriver in the woods. Hope you saw my explanation of that. Badly. The jerk movie. I'm blind. It's finale. Finale. That's the word I was looking for.
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Officer Bagley
Yeah.
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Baron Coleman
Finale. Yeah. The jerk was funny. It was very funny. What's the guy's name? Steve. Oh, gosh. Does it mean I'm getting old? Can't remember things like that. My b. My favorite is that they put the screwdriver found on the roof into evidence when it would have been required to reassemble the rifle that was later left in the park as he brought it back up. Yeah. Again, I. I hope you guys heard my explanation of that. I think that the. I think the governor has been. I think they've adopted a different story that doesn't require a screwdriver. Maybe that's because he left it. Dude. Bagley says he jumped over people going down the stairs to help arrest Shooter, then later realizes it came later. And he called himself a professional. Yeah. Baron, phenomenal show today. The Handler opening trial summary. Fantastic. Thank you. Message to Andrew. Powerful and moving. Thanks. Wow. Trying to get on my good side. Baron, don't have social media nor want to. Can you please tell us what happened with AK on X so those of us that don't have X can know. Thank you. I hope you saw that part. You commented after I did that, so I hope you saw it. If not, hit rewind. I did a whole segment on it. The way Candace talks about the JE and TPUSA connection. Do you think TPUSA was becoming the next front for underlying JE style crimes? The bad People would have wanted to wait for the crimes to continue. I think they moved a lot of those types of crimes into the nonprofit space. TPUSA is a nonprofit. Everybody associated with TPUSA seems to be like one degree removed from that industry. So I don't know. TPUSA 1.0 Charlie Kirk we don't lie. TP USA 2.0 Erica. Erica snaf. Trust me, bro. I'm sure you meant Andrew. Erica. Love you, Baron. High IQ and such good work for Charlie. Sure he is cheering you and Candace on. And his grand finale. That's correct. All the best. Crisis king indeed. I couldn't think of it. Lost my father in 2024. Still grieving. Ek is a joke. So happy I caught your live. Even if the. Even if it the ended of it. I'm glad you're here too, Laura. I think I know what you meant, but thank you. And I'm sorry you're still grieving. You've been a healing force for the grief we and Candace have had since Charlie Kirk's life was ended. I will forever thank God for you, your family and team. Christ is king indeed. Well, thank you. That's humbling. That's very humbling. I wonder how many of the parties involved lie because they think they're true alibis and testimony is more destructive than the truth. I. E. No alibi because the alibi was cheating on their wives or something similar. Oh, gosh, I don't know. Andrew lies worse than Jack Hibbs. Wrong. He lies worse than Jack Higgs rug. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember Jack got caught lying too. They all lied. They've all been caught changing their stories. And Jack told one Fox News, I think it was that his brother Butch called him from the scene and he could hear the chaos in the background. And then he tells Frank Turek. I can't remember if it was you or Mikey who called me first. And I was shocked when I got the call. Well, you weren't shocked when Butch called. I Nashville fan. Number one Nashville fan. We need a meme of AK in a dunce hat. I'm not opposed. Let me Claiming number one for Papa Michigan. It sounds so nice you guys say it twice. Thank you for going Max. Especially on X today, praying for you. God bless. Christ is king indeed.
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Katherine Nester
Yeah.
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Baron Coleman
Not my finest moment saying an ugly word. But when you don't say them a lot, they have more meaning. Thank you for prayers for my dad, Rodney. Slow progressing leukemia which was the best of the options promising clinical trial over the next few months. I will say prayers for your dad Rodney. I hate that. Went to court in Union, New Jersey, 2001 for big fight. His girlfriend walked in all Sheridan. He sent her home to change looking look into Ken Clement up. Good on that judge. Good on that judge. That judge should have sent her home. Stacy today should have said no, no, no, no. You don't wear that in the court Baron. It might have been Bigfoot on the roof. He's never confidently captured on camera and when he is, it's blurry. That's a good point. It looks just like him. They even had the long arm motion there. Perhaps Tracy thought she was attending court from the 16th century. Henry VIII's court comes to mind. Talking about Stacy, you can request body cam logs from the company. It should indicate whether battery died, user turned off, etc. You can let me know what they say. Grand finale. Yes, yes, yes, the grand finale. Andrew may have controlled Charlie's Twitter, but not his texts. Charlie loved Candace. I think you guys are right. New color name, battle bun, red hoodie. Oh, this is my angry hoodie. I wear this when I'm mad. Or the black hoodie when I got to bury someone. They did to Charlie what they've been doing to Palestinians. Kill him in front of the world. Denied it, took over hard earned assets, claimed it as theirs and hoping will accept the narrative and just forget. Wow, harsh words. Charlie's work for Candace on Brad Lee podcast. I believe you. I believe you was the first officer witness. Any prior Google search trends? Any of the witnesses? Oh, I don't know. I haven't looked them up. Probably late now. Unrelated question are familiar with Law Tube? If so, what are your thoughts on them? Watch many trials with their commentary. What are your thought commentary? One of your thoughts about them and competency. Thanks. I don't know that I have any thoughts familiar Know who they are but maybe lack of Z and spiked drink to event causing the dozing off to lessen incoming blow. I don't know. TP has me wondering all possibilities. Oh, maybe they spiked his drink so that he would be tired or kept him up late. I don't know ak he lied about you to placate you ak look at his text from Charlie when he immediately says we don't lie. Lies being exposed. Hard to keep up. Yeah, if you guys have nailed it all. Long time listener, first time caller. I'm gonna hang up. Listen, if TR is presumed innocent until proven guilty, why is he rotting in jail until the trial? Maybe a few more years. That's a. It's a quirk in the Law. It's a quirk. In the law, you're innocent until proven guilty, but at the same time, they can take your freedom away without a charge. I mean. I mean, without a genuine charge, I guess. Charged he hadn't been in. They haven't had a preliminary hearing. They haven't cleared the first legal hurdle. That usually takes place pretty quickly. It's. It's a legal quirk. You were right. Tyler was arrested on September 11th. I hope the defense mentions it when they cross tomorrow. I mean, that's what the documents say. I have no reason to doubt the documents. We'll see. Stacy Sheridan's attire reminds me of Jennifer Tilly, the plaintiff and Liar Liar with her attorney, Jim Carrey. I saw that, but it was many years ago and I don't remember. Howdy, humble host. So TR's attorney also repped Corey Richards not long ago. She seemed like she had it way more together today than in that trial. What do you think? I didn't watch a lot of that trial, but. But, yeah, I. I tend to agree that she did a pretty good job today. I can't compare it to the other one. I don't know what that means. Do you think the guy with a badge had a device that could disable recording devices so the body cam would turn off and the screwdriver could be planted? Maybe. I don't know. I didn't consider that. Like a little mini EMP or something. Blast it. I don't know, B. I'm sicky icky. Need a few days to get better. Well, moon goddess, we're hoping for the best. Let us know how it works out. I left handler school pretending to learn my Bible for eight months to be. Yeah. Wonder what she was doing. Baron, can you please leave comments on the screen until you completely finish responding before displaying that comment? I try to. I think I do. And maybe sometimes I don't. About the unintended assets. Back when they used. They were used to call them governeads. Go Gov. No eds Anyone? Real interest in that.
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Officer Bagley
That guy.
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Baron Coleman
Okay. Thank you. I want to see the body cam being shut off. Shutting down. Does the hand match Bagley's or was someone waiting up there? I don't know. I don't know. Why did your stream cut and skip ahead on Will it super? I don't know. I didn't know it did. Make sure it's healthy. Seems to be up. Check and see if there's been any issues. It seems fine.
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Officer Bagley
Yeah.
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Baron Coleman
I mean, everything looks. Looks like it's going swimmingly. I Don't know. Check with your local broadband service provider. Maybe they'll know. Oh, AK's a gaslighter. Dennis's actions speak louder than his words. Yes, number one BK fan. I don't know what BK is. Burger King. You're my number one Burger King fan. You're sitting there eating a Whopper. Pps. Any single men in New York City in the chat? A 38F tired of hinge. And she likes Fraggle Rock, boys. She had HBO as a kid. She comes from money. She comes from buddy guys. She had HBO as a kid. You know, take her up, take her up. Be great. So grateful for your high Q mine to deliver us a haikyuu outfit. Thank you, Baron, for all you do. Your legal expertise is invaluable to Charlie's investigation. In my opinion, you are God ordained for this time. Christ is king indeed. That's very kind, very humbling. And Coaches in. Coaches Live stole your welcome in. Welcome in. Welcome in. I believe you can sue him 3.33 cents or call it even. I'll wait to see what my fine is. I'll double it and send it back. I did not know he was stealing this. Speak, O exalted one. Coleman Court rundown. Yeah. Yeah. Day one. I had a thought. Our high IQ family would all gather and say a prayer today for Candace and for justice. Maybe it would reach heaven for Charlie. Jesus Christ is king. Yeah. Pray. I encourage prayer. Profligate prayer. Pray without ceasing. The apostle Paul would say, baron, you won over my husband, but about lost me with a particular steamy and greasy one. So I thank you for all you do. Well, I'm glad you know, take the bitter with the sweet. But just as Brennan said, I just dreamt I was talking to you while listening. I have it all the time. I have that all the time. Every time I fought. Not every time, but often when I fall asleep to a podcast, I. I'm on the podcast. So I'm gonna feel tomorrow. Talking to Buckley and Clinton. Wouldn't the body cam video show a low battery symbol in the corner for it dies? I. I don't know. I'm getting mixed reviews on that. If TR disassembled the rifle on the roof, why would it look like a rifle when the officer saw him? I hope you saw my explanation for that earlier. If not rewind. I talked about asking a favor, but understand if you're unable to accommodate. Could you read the full comment on Super Chat? I listen while driving a truck, but I get serious FOMO when you stop Halfway through, tempted to look at my phone. I typically read them all. I mean, sometimes I don't, or sometimes I stop and start answering it. But I try to. If I pull one up, I try to read the whole thing. Unless it's like foul or something. My sisters and I had honorary Smokey the Bear forest ranger badges at 7 to 10 years old in mid-1970. Okay, I wonder where this is going. Anyone can get a badge. Oh, oh. Referring to the civilian accompanying officer on the roof. Yeah. Okay. I hope he didn't pull out the Smokey the Bear for a stranger badge. If Candace and Charlie weren't close, why did Andrew Colvette call her the day he died and the days following? Why did he say this? Why did he share the screenshot? Weird. All good questions. She needs to ask those. Check all the planes going in and out of Utah. Done. I remember shaking and being in total shock the first time I watched it. I was at a Pew Pew range for my 14th wedding anniversary. I honestly haven't felt the same since. Keep going. As a lonely Minnesota mom, this community has given me so much go Max. I think a lot of us were genuinely disturbed by it. And I think that genuine disturbance has led to a Now going on 10 month investigation into who killed Charlie Kirkhound. Why? Charlie flat out told Andrew on the Charlie Kirk show we don't lie here. Andrew said that he himself was guilty of telling a lie. Andrew's just a habitual liar. Nothing says, nothing he says can be trusted. I. I don't. I have trouble disagreeing with that. I mean you laid it out perfectly. Watch with Matt and Nate today. Everyone looking for you. Prosecution said TR's car seen late evening 911 but he was not in custody by 6:25. 9 11. More evidence of. So I think they misspoke. I thought they. I think they met late evening of 9:10. But I could be wrong. I was sickened watching Charlie die and not one of his so called friends rushed to him as he fell. They cowered or walked away with no thought for Charlie. So heartbreaking, Man. The way you put it, that was harsh. Not. I mean, I don't mean that in a bad way to you. I just hadn't really thought of it that way. Grand finale. Yeah. Hey Baron, can Big Island Hawaii get a shout out? Crisis king indeed.
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Katherine Nester
Sure.
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Baron Coleman
To all our homies in the Big island. No widow would allow their loved one's legacy essence of who they were. Yet EK is allowing AK and TPSA to destroy who Charlie was. Saying he was dishonest I'm telling you, if I'm Erica and like say I'm Erica and I really love Charlie, I would be beside myself with someone walking all over his dead body like that. I'd be like, no, you're gone, bud. You cannot talk about my husband that way. Why did. What did Trump do for ck? Due to. As a result of his relationship with his architect father with pro quo buyer's remorse. I don't. I don't even know they knew each other. I mean Trump ran a big org. Mr. Kirk was an architect for a big org. Like I. I don't think it was like he and Donnie were like rubbing elbows and high fiving each other at the site. Curious as to why Officer Bagley is no longer with UV UPD left five months ago. Do you think we will find out? I heard he got a cush job at a new location down in Spanish Fork. That's what I heard. I might be thinking of somewhere else and I think it was like a more money or whatever. That's just what I heard first. Timothy five, six, widow. But she who lives in pleasure is dead even while she lives tpusa. Forgot that one. Convenient. Wow. Names, fighting words. There are toys, liquor bottles, home decor, tools, etc whose shape is consistent with a rifle. Are these people for real?
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Officer Bagley
Go Max.
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Baron Coleman
Not only that. Like one of the theories could be the guy on the roof was a spotter. Like there are lots of things for spotting that are long. I mean there's just a ton of stuff you can't fry someone over. Oh, he had something long in his hand. Candice made Charlie real and you could tell she had a beautiful friendship. Unlike EK well, do the prosecution at prelim have show all the evidence they have or can they withhold until trial so defense can't cross? Oh yeah, they can withhold and they are. They're not putting anybody up my be. Please pray. I have a disease. Optic nerve atrophy. Lost my license three years ago at 23. I found a clinic in Germany that treats what I have. I put down a deposit for treatment today. Husband and I will go over in December. Wow. I will pray for you. Optic nerve atrophy. Never heard of it. I do pray for you though. If Bagley perjured himself lying about a body cam, will it change any of the admitted evidence? Fruit of the poisonous Tree. That's not. I don't think that's a proper application of the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine. A classic fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine is you. You search a home and you don't have a warrant and it's an illegal search and you found a machine gun. You can't use that because it was the fruit of a poisonous tree. And you don't have to give it back. But you can't take him to try say here he had a machine gun. He's illegal. He can't have a machine gun. That, that's the more classic example there. Or they get a warrant for one room and they look at another room and you know, ignoring plain view doctrine but you know, they walk in, they open a drawer. Fruit of the poisonous tree. You can't use that. That's a more classic example. Recognizing when a real anti war voice gets taken out and asking who benefits? That the moment that voice went silent. Keep up the great work. Salam. Yeah, I mean it's hard not to ask who benefits because becoming increasingly obvious, I slipped out of my husband's funeral to watch this. Oh gosh, I hope that was a joke. Recovery time for Sikki Icky. Sinopetti Homework? No, you need to stretch, girl. Please call out section 219. I have. I don't know much about it. We'll buy us. I believe you. We'll lose bitter sovereignty. I, I, I totally believe you but we're not talking about that. Like I'm not opposed to your position but that, that's not really what we're talking about. B. When the judge allowed evidence without date and time, I immediately thought of the video of T.R. turning himself in. Thoughts? Yeah, I didn't think of that, but that's a good connection. Mrs. Swan. That guy published New Lies for Old in 84. Ten years later a method methodical US analysis by Mark Ribling evaluated his geopolitical predictions. One of two. I hope we're going somewhere with number two. Such as the calculated into the Soviet Union. The result? An empirical accuracy rate of nearly 94%. His predictions came true. Precisely. Well, thank you. I don't know what any of that meant, but thank you. Any word if Blake is related to James Jimmy Neff from Southern Air. Southern Air Transport that purchased the plane company used for the Iran Contra and then by Einstein? No, that's a great question. That's a great question. Look and see what we can find real fast. Well, Let's see. I, I don't know. That's, that's interesting. I have to look into it. I mean NEF isn't that unusual of a name. You can't say every NEF is related. But yeah, that's interesting. I have to look into it.
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Officer Bagley
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Baron Coleman
That's something I've never even considered. Did not. Asking about the line of sight with the tent set up. Tent up. Hurt defense. Seems like a missed opportunity to discredit his witness. Can't confirm line of sight tented. So I think what you're asking is. So Bagley was on the hall of Flags. It's a great question. I thought about it. He's on the hall of Flags. Would he have been able to see Charlie because he claimed he saw Charlie slump to the left or saw his right side or whatever? I don't know. I mean, you. You better know the answer to the question before you ask it. It might be better to figure it out and hold it off till trial. You know, if. If it turns out it's impossible. Why would you blow that here? It's kind of a waste. That's a good thought, though. Good thought. Guys, we've reached the end of another great episode. I think I'm humble, but I think it was pretty good. If you enjoyed it as much as I did, please hit the like button. Or even a half as much as I did. Hit the like button. Make sure you subscribe. Click the notifications. You can check out the Clips channel. Baron Coleman Clips. We're putting new clips up there every day. We got a great editor. He's doing a great job. So he will be kind of managing the load over there. And it's a fantastic opportunity to get little clips that you can share with your friends and family, get them hooked on the big shebang, or just have them smile and say thank you. That was a nice clip. I appreciate that. But it's always, always, always a fun time over there if you want some merch. Real BaronPodcast.com Real BaronPodcast.com but while you're doing all this, I think it's very important that you never forget that Jesus loves you. I will remind you I will be off the air tomorrow. I have a funeral in the morning. And then just about the time I get out of that, I have to hustle home to do my podcast with Buckley Carlson and Clint Russell over at Liberty Lockdown. That probably won't be viewable tomorrow. He may put a clip up or something, but it'll probably not be until Wednesday that that comes out. So I in all likelihood will not be on tomorrow afternoon or evening. I might join one of the other podcasts that are kind of doing a rundown afterwards just to give my thoughts if I have any strong thoughts, but I haven't thought about that yet. Wednesday, we'll be back. We'll do a show, probably a little recapping, and then. And then anything else that we've come up with between now and then back on Thursday as well. And then we'll do a member show on Friday. And if this is still going on on Friday, maybe we'll. We'll do a long member show and just sort of watch and comment together. I don't know how we'll handle that, but we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. We got plenty. We got three days to figure it out. Um, but I will see you guys soon. I will see you Wednesday, regardless, and I hope you have a wonderful evening. Talk to you soon.