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Andrew, Blake, Erica, you guys picked a terrible week to go on vacation. I don't have braids. I feel like if I had braids at this point, I would be in a much better position to a program, because apparently braids are where it's at. Battle bun be darned. Battle braids, ladies and gentlemen, is where it is. Welcome in. Welcome in. Welcome in. Apparently, this week's gonna get rowdy. Apparently, this week's gonna get unbelievably rowdy. Hold on. Let me check here. Okay. Make sure I didn't accidentally call 911 or anything. Get it off of. Get off of. Okay, guys, we got a lot to cover now. It's gonna be a cap and gown day. I'm gonna be a cap and gown day. When you. When you. Some days you show up, you know, we have a good time, and we have some fun today. Don your cap, don your gown. We're going to school. We're going to school. It's gonna be a lot of education and happening here tonight. And I have to tell you, when they're right, they're right. And sometimes Erica Kirk is right, and I'm gonna take her side today on a. A particular issue. I'm going to be on Team Erica today. So don't say, you know, you got you. Everything you do is against this woman. No, no. Not tonight. Not July 27, 2026. No. We're. We're Team America. No, I'm sorry. Team Erica. Yeah. Team Erica. We are Team Erica tonight. Before we get started, I have to clarify something. Last night, I got a ton of messages. Holy mackerel. I got a ton of messages on last night's show, and I had a lot of people giving me tips on which car they think that Tyler Robinson jumped in. I responded to a few of them. I was like, did I say he jumped in a car? They're like, yeah, yeah, go back and watch it. So I went back and watched it, and then all the things started making sense. I was giving options. I was just giving every option I could think of. Like, I went to the kitchen cabinet, and I started pulling options out of the cabinet. I am not saying for sure he jumped in a car. I'm not saying for sure he ran to the library. I'm not saying for sure he. He ordered up a cheeseburger on the roof. I'm not saying for sure that while he was standing at the top of the parking garage, he made a call or. Or communicated with somebody. You know, I was just thinking of any option I could possibly Think of that. Something might have happened in the clips that they took out. That's it. That's it. So I don't know if he jumped in a car. I don't necessarily think he did. But if he did, then let's figure out which car it is. All I was trying to do is say why are they cutting all the video footage in half? Why are they shutting everything down? They had five days to present a preliminary case. If you're going to give me a two minute long video of him standing at the top of the stair case, don't cut a minute of it out. Give me the whole two minutes. Let me see what the two minutes happens. That's it. That's all, that's all. Ladies and gentlemen, just want to clarify that because I don't want people to say. Now keep in mind the trial is years, probably two years from now. Year, year and a half, two years from now. But there will be people who make a note. Baron Coleman said on July 26 that he jumped in a car. He did not jump in a car. Barron is wrong. He's a liar, he's an idiot. He a con man. Hey, no, I didn't say that. All I was saying was he might have. We have no idea. So that's all I'm going to say about last night. But I am going to go into a little bit of more of the autopsy tonight. I'm very keen on the disposition of Charlie Kirk's body because as we, as we proceed through this case, there seems to be one glaring problem. Everything. Well, there's a lot of glaring problems, but one major problem is a murder requires a body. If I, if you're going to tell me someone died, I have to be able to look and see a dead person. And so far we've not heard from anybody who saw a dead body. We heard from people who heard from people who saw a doctor's report that might have indicated there was a dead body. But we've not seen an actual dead body. We've not seen the report of a dead body. We've not seen pictures of that body. And I don't want to look at the pictures. I'm not gruesome. I have no interest in looking at the picture. Honestly, that's, that's a true fact. I have no interest in looking at the pictures. I mean if they came out, I would have to look just to do the job here, but I'd have no interest in it. Absolutely no interest. But I would like to look at the report. I'D like to look at things like what time did it start? Where did it take place? Who's in the room? What time did it end? Where did the body go after that? And we'll talk tonight about why those records should be available. What happened to the biologic samples? Are they available still? The defense seemed to indicate they might not have them. Should they it a legal requirement in Utah that they do have them? So we'll talk about all that and more. Because this case is very weird from front to back. There's no doubt about it. It's very weird from front to back. And one of the giant weirdnesses. What I do in my opening, that's close it by mistake. I'll find it. Oh, there it is. I hid it from myself, ladies and gentlemen. I've been known to do that. It's happened before. One of the weird things about this case is we had an autopsy that now we're trying to sort of get a handle on. That might have been done in almost minutes. Almost minutes. And I'll be honest, here's what it looks like to me. It looks like if there was not an autopsy done, they just kind of cooked up some sort of a report. If there was an autopsy done, then it might have been done haphazardly, it might not have followed all the rules, and it might not have been as thorough as it otherwise should have been in a major murder case. So I want to go through that, but I do want to do an opening because this is not the first time that we've had a question in a case about where is the body? This has been a thing. It's happened before. I want to take you all the way. Oh. Oh. People get mad when I don't do this. This is your opening statement. I want to take you all the way back to the summer of 1975. There was a young mother in Edinburgh, Scotland, and she experienced a loss that would define nearly five decades of her life. Her name was Lydia Ann Reed. She was only 26 years old. She gave birth by C section on June 26th of 1975 to a premature son. She named him Gary Robert Patton. And within days, young Gary was very fragile. He was a premature baby. And he was transferred to Royal Hospital for Sick Children. And they had to have do surgery to remove a catheter. After the operation on July 2, he reportedly suffered a brain damage incident. He was placed on life support. Ms. Reed agreed to withdraw the intensive care. And then later that night, the police arrived to inform her that young Gary had Died. He was just seven days old. Seven days old. Little, tiny, tiny Gary. Almost immediately, she had doubts. When the funeral staff from Scott Mid Cooperative showed her the body, Ms. Reed looked at it and said, that's not my son's body. My son was tiny and dark haired. This child is large and blonde. And of course, the staff does what sometimes medical staff does to people and they pooh, pooh them, treat them like idiots and dismiss her as having depression, postnatal depression. So she goes to the funeral, and at the funeral, a little bitty coffin for a little bitty premature baby. Said the coffin felt unnaturally light in her arms. Of course, how much does a little baby weigh? So they kind of dismissed that. But she noticed a few other things that were weird. Rather than putting the casket in the back of the car, they just kind of put it into the front seat of the car and they put a coat over it. And then the guy driving was flashing his, ashing his cigarette, and the cigarette ashes were blowing down on the coat that was over the coffin. On the name plate of the casket, it spelled the word Gary with two Rs instead of one. They misspelled the kid's name on his own coffin. And they. They buried the coffin at a place called Sotten Cemetery. And this is where it gets heartbreaking, because for more than 40 years, Ms. Reed visited that grave every week. Every week she laid down flowers, even though she was never fully convinced internally that her baby was in the grave. And her suspicions began to intensify. In the late 1990s, there was an alder hay organ retention scandal that erupted in England. And investigations revealed that in a lot of British hospitals, including those in Scotland and her area, they had routinely retained organs and tissues from young children who had passed away. And they were using it for research and teaching, and they were doing it without the parental consent. There was a report that was issued. It was called the McLaren Report. It later estimated that Scottish hospitals held around 6,000 such specimens that had been collected between 1970 and 2000. Well, Ms. Reed became a leading figure in the campaign group called justice for the Innocents. Among other things, she demanded her son's medical records. And she learned that the organs had indeed been removed before he was buried. This was unusual because they had assured her earlier that this was not the case, that they had not taken anything out of her son. Their entire son, organs and all, was in the casket. A lot of families eventually recovered retained material, but the hospital maintained that it had nothing that belonged to Gary. So Ms. Reed continued to Press for answers. At one point, she even chained herself to a rail in protest. She went on a hunger strike. She fought for reforms that tighten the regulation on the handling of pediatric remains. And in 2017, 42 years after Gary passed away and after several years of legal efforts, Ms. Reed secured a court order that allowed them to exhume the remains. She hired a distinguished forensic anthropologist from the University of Dundee to supervise the work. They exhume the remains and they recover a number of artifacts from the grave. This includes a disintegrated coffin. There was a wooden shawl. There was a small hat that was placed on, allegedly placed on Gary before he was put in the grave, a small cross and a name tag. And she remembered all of those objects being present when she last saw who she presumed was her child. So those objects confirmed it was the right grave. However, the coffin itself had no body. There were no skeletal remains. The expert confirmed there were no traces of decomposition and no hair inside the hat. And according to the expert, there should have at least been hair, if nothing else. So the conclusion was pretty unambiguous. And here is the exact quote from the expert. Ultimately, there is only one possible logical explanation, and that is that the body was not put in that coffin. End quote. Obviously, that devastated Ms. Reed. Even if it validated her instinct, it's. It was still devastating news. She was quoted saying, I wanted to be wrong. I wanted to be called a stupid old woman. Instead, she was forced to confront the cold reality that an empty coffin had been buried while her son's body was somewhere else. The discovery triggered further official scrutiny. The police got involved, the Crown Office got involved, there was a Procurator Fiscal Service investigation, whatever that is, and she launched a legal action seeking the return of any samples that remained in a postmortem situation. A lot of times they'll take samples and they'll keep them somewhere. We'll talk about that tonight. And also she wanted compensation from the funeral directors, who very obviously knew that there was no body in the casket. In 2022, she was frustrated by delays. She was at that point 73 years old. Keep in mind, she'd been 26 when Gary died. She was now 73 years old. She was disabled. She went on a hunger strike. She camped outside the Crown Office in Edinburgh, demanded a public inquiry and of course, the release of whatever remained of her child. A multi agency review was conducted and that they concluded Gary had been buried in 1975 and found no evidence of criminality or unlawful organ retention. Obviously, Ms. Reed disputed those findings. Because they dug up the grave, and there was no gary. So in 2023, March of 2023, just a few years ago, while she was lying terminally ill with bowel cancer in the hospital, authorities finally located and released the available remains. And all that remained of young Gary were a few tissue blocks and slides. When I say slides, I mean the medical slides that go under a microscope. That's all that was left from the original examination. Officials delivered them to her in a plastic supermarket bag, like a Kroger bag. The agency was later forced to apologize for being so reckless and careless with Ms. Reed's feelings. She obviously expressed horror. And then the materials were properly prepared by an undertaker. And on a beautiful Saturday morning in late March 2023, Ms. Reed checked herself out of a hospital for a full 24 hours and finally conducted a respectful funeral for what remained of Gary. She did it at the Soton cemetery that she had gone to for nearly 48 years after his death. The hurt has been horrendous. She said, Now I can bury him before I die. I feel great relief. She died shortly thereafter, June 2023. She was just 74 years old. And even after the burial of the few tissue samples she had, questions about what happened to Gary's body very obviously remain. It's a reminder that some losses leave voids, and no investigation can fill those voids. And that is your opening statement. It's a little dark. It's a little morbid, but it is awfully. Wait a minute. Why is my name trending on X? What have I done now? Oh. Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to get. I just pulled it up while I was talking and then looked and thought, what's going on here? It's morbid and it's dark. But we have real questions that remain about what became of Charlie Kirk. You know, he died in a rather fantastic event. It was a rather wild moment, and everybody sort of looked around and assumed proper protocol would be followed. The question is, was it? Because if it was, why do we not know to this day what happened to his body? Was he buried? Was he cremated? Did he have a funeral? We can't know because the participants at the alleged funeral, as Candace disclosed a long time ago, but again, yesterday, I believe, or she believes, were forced to sign an NDA to go to their own family's funeral. Like, can you imagine being the cousin and having to sign an NDA with penalties attached to it? Very bizarre. Very, very bizarre. So let's take a walk through this, shall we? Because there are some Legal requirements in Utah, what happens to a body? And I'll just outline them broadly before we start pulling up statutes and looking at them, because this is again, going to be a dense day. If you die in Utah. We talked about this yesterday. If you die in Utah and it's a suspected gunshot wound, in, in most instances, there will be an autopsy. But as we learned yesterday, to much to my surprise over the weekend, I discovered an autopsy is not required. An autopsy can be waived by the medical examiner if nobody else asks for one. So if the county attorney or the attorney general asks for a autopsy, the medical examiner has to perform one. But if neither one of them asks for an autopsy and the medical examiner shows up and says, h, we don't really need to do an autopsy here. They don't have to do one. No autopsies required. So what happens if the medical examiner takes custody? Because we're told the medical examiner took custody of the body. We saw a parade of people that included the medical examiner, and that parade of people supposedly went to the medical examiner's office in Taylorsville. What's funny about that is there were news cameras all over the place and nobody seemed to remember him coming. But there is actually a statute of what happens when the death appears. This is a purple part right here where the death appears to have occurred under circumstances listed in 26B8.205. And I will submit to you that that is a gunshot wound. Subsection one of that is a gunshot wound. The person or person's finding or having custody of the body or jurisdiction over the investigation of the death. So that's the medical examiner or the county attorney or the police shall take reasonable precautions to preserve the body and fluids so that minimal minimum deterioration takes place. That's subsection C right there. So the medical examiner has a responsibility here until the conclusion of the autopsy. There has to be some sort of preservation of the entire body. But once the autopsy passes, is there any additional requirement, and if there is no additional requirement, does that help inform us maybe why an autopsy was rushed? Rushed. I'll give you a follow up here. Here are situations where autopsies are authorized and the reason why this two right here is a verb. The medical examiner shall perform an autopsy to aid in the discovery and prosecution of the crime. So you want to make sure you protect the state's interest also to protect an innocent person accused of a crime. In other words, if we have a criminal defendant before we have a completed autopsy, the medical examiner is no longer just trying to figure out who died and how. But they actually have a statutory, a statutory duty to the accused. The medical examiner has a statutory duty to the accused, meaning Tyler Robinson in this case. When did we get Tyler Robinson? When did he show up? Well, he didn't show up allegedly until the night of September 11th. He didn't show up till the night of September 11th. Well, where was Charlie's body the night of September 11th when Tyler Robinson showed up? It was in Arizona. It was in Arizona. That's fast, ladies and gentlemen. When Charlie was not declared dead until the early afternoon some point one 32, 230, three o', clock, sometime like that, in the afternoon on September 10th, you wouldn't think the body would already be in another state. 30 hours later, 33 hour manhunt, 33 hour, 30 hours later, you wouldn't think the body would be in another state. And this becomes an important factor when you think about the speed with which this entire thing was done. Because one of the things that can happen, one of the things that can happen with a, with an autopsy, with a body is the, the criminal of the accused can request an extension. I'll show you this right here. This is a thing. This is a thing. Release of the body for funeral preparations. Where a body's held for investigation or autopsy under this chapter, the body shall, if requested by the person given authority, so that would be the wife, be released for funeral preparations no longer than 24 hours after the arrival at the office of the medical examiner, a regional medical facility. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we know when that took place. We think that happened around 8:30 or 9:00pm on September 10th. That's when it arrived at the medical facility. And at that point the clock starts running. They have 24 hours to get the body ready and released. They have 24 hours to complete the autopsy after it arrives at the medical facility. We saw the body, supposedly we saw the body leave Timpanoga's Hospital at 7:57pm it's about a 30, 45 minute drive, let's call it 45 minutes to get the body inside the medical facility. That's when the clock starts running. That's when the clock starts running. If the medical examiner still has custody of that body within that whole 24 hours and a criminal defendant comes along and says, you got the wrong guy. I don't believe that happened. They can file a request in the district court of Utah to hold the body, not release the body. In other words, they can go to a judge and say, judge, this is very unusual circumstances. We think they've got it all wrong here. You need to hold the body and allow a more thorough investigation to take place. Allow potentially defense people. Second autopsy, second opinion. That extension may only be ordered by a court. That's that Section B right there. So you might get some sort of an idea of why everything was sped up so fast. Now you're starting to look and say, hey, oh, oh, oh, oh. It didn't make sense to me why there was such a hurry to dispose of Charlie Kirk's body. Recall last night we talked about all of the autopsy pictures were taken on September 10th. That means the autopsy, we believe, could have been done by midnight that night and released. It didn't even get to the. They didn't get there until like 8. Let's call it 8:30. Let's say they drove really fast on the way there and they wheeled the body in. Yanking and banking. Is that what Brian Harpo called it? Let's say they were yanking and banking on the way there and they just like catapulted the body into the building. You're talking 8:30, three. Earliest it was gone three and a half hours later. Like, gone from the building. The autopsy was done. Are you kidding me? That's super fast. That's really, really fast. That's like 20 and a half hours before the statutorily expected 24 hours passes. But if you don't know when somebody might be arrested for the crime and you don't know if that person's going to request an extension, and you really don't want a second set of eyes looking in on what's going on. And you don't want a court getting involved and you don't want extensions being granted, and you don't want a court to say we need to hold this body for two weeks in the morgue and keep him on ice because we're going to have to get a second team in here. They're going to have to look at it. If you don't want any of that to happen, there's only one way to prevent it. Get that body the heck out of Dodge. And what better way to do that than to have the vice President of the United States show up and say, he's coming with me. What? What state medical examiner is going to look the vice president in the eye and say, no, sir, we've still got time on our hands. We don't. We don't have to release this body for another five hours. Enjoy the tarmac, sir. If you don't feel safe, you can get back up in the air. But we don't have to release this body for four more hours. Probably not going to happen. Probably not going to happen. But if, let's say Dan Flood and Brian Harpole show up and they're like, hey, we're taking the body. No, no, no, we're not. You can't take the body. We've got time here. We're taking our time. We're letting the clock run. We got to see what's going on. So what does it take to get a body out of state in Utah? Because this seems extraordinarily fast. A lot of people have commented on this, that this seems extraordinarily fast. Well, we have a rule on that. We have a rule on that. There's a Utah requirement. It's called a disposition permit. A disposition permit. Believe it or not, this is it. This is the Office of Administrative Rules, Authorization for final disposition of deceased persons. This is the rule for the removal, transportation, and preservation of bodies. If you're going to remove the body, you have to obtain permission from the next of kin. That's Erica. You have to determine whether the medical examiner has been notified that that was taken care of. And this is to remove it from the hospital. And then you have to know where it's going. Right now. You got to transport it. If you're going to ship a body, and that's what happened here. That body has to be embalmed by a licensed embalmer. And then it's got to be placed in a particular shipping container. Now we got to preserve it. You can't hold it in Transit more than 24 hours after death. After death, it has to be maintained at a temperature no more than 40 degree Fahrenheit. I don't know how they did that on Air Force Two. Maybe put it down in the cargo hold and just let it freeze with the rest of the luggage. I don't know. And then there are penalties associated with this here. But you have to get this permit. You have to get this disposition permit. It's a. It's a. Let me see if I can. There it is. A burial transit permit. And this has to be filed with the state. The burial transit permit has to be filed by the state. In other words, state offices aren't open in the middle of the night. The middle of the night. In order to transfer the body from one place to the other, you've got to create a record. So we. We have to know where it went. There is some record out there that will tell us where Charlie Kirk's alleged body went. These are the burial transit permits right here. Another code section. I told you it's gonna be a little cap and gowny. At least at the beginning. It's gonna be a little bumpy for those of you who don't like words and some of you don't. Some of you don't requisite a registration prerequisite to internment. Burial transit permits. We know there was a certificate of death for deaths and fetal deaths which occur in this state. No burial transit permit is required for. But let's see. It's not going to be in the state because we. We're going to need one because this is. Disposition occurs in the state. Well, that didn't happen. Disposition occurred in allegedly Arizona. And the bar. The burial transit permit shall be issued by the local registrar of the district. So this is a. This is something you have to get approved by a government official. This is something that cannot happen in the middle of the night. A burial. That's bodies coming in right here. And so you have this. You've got this requirement. Again, there's a paper trail that's coming up. A lot of people alerted me to this. I got a lot of tips on this. People said, I just don't see how it's possible. I had a k. I had a grandma die in Utah and we wanted her to take her back to Colorado to bury or back to Nevada to bury. And what I've learned is a lot of people have ties to Utah, but they live in the surrounding states. And so they want to be. They die in Utah or they want to be buried in Utah, one or the other. And so you have to get these permits going back and forth. Most people tell me these permits take weeks to get. Like your body stays on ice for two weeks, four weeks. Because these permits take forever. Not when you're Charlie Kirk. Not when you're Charlie Kirk. There's actually a requirement in Arizona for incoming people. We have that statute. If you are so bored and would like to read it as well, I'll go ahead and flash it up here. Just so you know, we're not making it up because we get accused of that sometimes and it's not true. This is the disposition of disposition transit permits. This is for human remains coming in from out of state. You have to. They have to be embalmed and they have to have this permit. They have to have a permit. Funeral establishment, responsible person must submit the information required. And get this again, another state record. So now we'll have a state record in Utah. We'll have a state record in Arizona. And the reason this is important is you can't just go cremating somebody or burying somebody without telling, without filing with the state where you're doing it. So if Charlie Kirk has been buried, we're told he was buried. I think they hinted he was buried. Maybe. Maybe we weren't told he was there. We were hinted he was buried. We're told there was a funeral at a cemetery. Most people, when they go to a funeral as a cemetery, assume the body goes in the ground. But there are a lot of people questioning that. So if he went in the ground, there's a record somewhere. Someone in Arizona has access to that record that you can't just. You can't just put somebody in the ground. Now, let's say they decide we're going to fake a burial and we're going to cremate them instead. We're going to fake the burial, we're going to have all the family show up, they're going to sign NDAs, we're going to put the casket out there, we're going to tell everybody we're going to bury them, then they're going to leave, and then we're going to go cremate them. You still have to have a record. You still have to have a record, meaning there's some bureaucrat in Arizona that has access to that database. And that bureaucrat, not just one. There's probably hundreds of bureaucrats in Arizona that have access to that database, could search by his name and it would pop up and it would say whether he's been cremated, where it was done, who presided over it, or whether he was buried, where he's buried and who presided over it. If it had, if the final disposition took place in Arizona, that would be on the record somewhere. Someone in Arizona working with the state is able to confirm that. Probably not on the record, because I don't think they're allowed to do that. But you know how people are. Curiosity gets the best of people. And they. They look at the disposition permits and say, was he buried or not? I hear all this conversation about he wasn't buried. Let me just look it up real fast. And they would be able to tell you real quickly, was he buried, was he cremated? Or do we have a record of. Neither, nor do we have a record of him being transferred out of the state, which means he's just hanging out somewhere. He's just on ice somewhere. Literally on ice somewhere. But the point of this is the more administrative headache that the state requires with all these disposition permits, with all these registrars, with all these documents that have to be filed. The more time elapses, the more time things take. If you've ever gone to the state for any kind of thing, you show up at the vital records department and you want a copy of your own birth certificate. It takes time. Takes time. You mail in a thing and three weeks later, maybe you get a copy of your birth certificate. Maybe three weeks later you get a copy of a letter that says you need more information before you can get a copy of your birth certificate. I've been through that. I've been through that. So you have those types of records now. What else is required? What other records would be available? And the reason I raise all this is if we're going to have a criminal trial, we should be able to see some of these records. You're going to have to produce some kind of a dead body. You're going to have to produce some sort of evidence of, of the fact that this all took place. So this is an example, a list of some of the things that the medical examiners required to keep. This is back in Utah now. So this medical examiner, Guardo and Amaro, they are required to their office is required to keep all these records. There's some records custodian somewhere that has access to these. In theory, medical examiner shall maintain complete original records of the medical examiner record. They shall be property indexed, giving the name Charlie Kirk, Charles Kirk or otherwise identifying every individual whose death is investigated. The place where the body was found, UVU or Timpanoga Hospital, the date of death September 10th. I can go ahead and fill this paper in for you. I mean if I, if, if you know someone's taking notes, you can create one of these. The cause and manner of death that's going to say gunshot wound manner. That's the cause. Manner would be homicide. Indicate the occupation of the decedent. I don't know, wildly successful podcaster slash non profit CEO slash author, slash. What else did he do? I don't even know what all he did include all other relevant information concerning the death and a full report of the detailed findings of the autopsy and a report of the investigation. So all that stuff should be preserved somewhere. That's going to come into play here in just a second because this is where we go on Team Erica when it comes to this record. Believe it or not, Eric and I are on the same side on this. So that last thing is that all other relevant information, there's something called a secure facility body intake Log. This is a timestamped log. And this timestamp log documents the exact second that the transport van arrived to the medical examiner's office. It'll identify the driver of the transport agency. It'll identify the physical integrity of the body bags, forensic seals, in other words, they don't just wrap them up in a sheet and toss them out into the minivan. They, they do it in a dignified manner. They put them in a bag, they seal the bag off, they sign the seal. So if they don't have it, just say they don't have this. This is something that's not available to them. They're going to come, they're going to have trouble when they go to the trial, they're going have real trouble. Because there's a rule of evidence in Utah 901 and the requirement of authenticating or identifying an item of evidence. They have to produce sufficient evidence to support a finding that the item is what they claim it is. In other words, they're going to have to bring somebody in from the office of medical examiner to say, yes, that record was kept in the ordinary course of business and it is precisely the way it is in our record book. This is just a copy of it. You know, we're not going to give you the original, but this is a real copy. They can't admit these things without someone standing in the stand saying that stuff. There will be an internal chain of custody tracking sheet. This is an internal log. It's step by step. It tracks the body as it was moved within the medical examiner's facility. This is cold storage. This is over to the X ray, the X ray part. Or maybe they bring the X ray to the body, over to the autopsy table, back to cold storage. Every step of the way there's a signature, there's an entry, there's a. Probably electronic these days, but, but there's some sort of a record to the second of when that happened and where it went. And this is going to be very important because again, this seems to be very, very fast. One of the requirements of an autopsy is that the body be cool. You're not going to cut into a brand new hot body. He hadn't been dead that long. Erica testified he was still warm when she showed up. That was at 4 o'. Clock. So she shows up at 4 o', clock, he's still warm, according to Erica. Well, if he's warm at 4 o' clock and he doesn't go to the medical Examiner's office till 8 o', clock, when did they cool the body down or 9 o', clock, 8:30, whatever. When did they cool the body down to a sufficient temperature? Because the rule in Utah is the body has to be below 40 before they dig in below 40. So you've got to get the body and you got to put it in cold storage. You've got to put it in what they call, I don't know, the morgue or whatever they have. But you slide the body into a, basically a giant cooler. You see these on like CSI Miami. I don't know. Again, I don't watch tv. I have no idea if there's a cooler, more modern show, but that's the last cop show I remember. But you see, they pull the body out of the morgue. They're, they pull, they're literally in cold storage, 35 to 39 degrees usually. And you have to bring that body down to temperature. Why? Because an autopsy takes time. An autopsy takes two, three, sometimes four hours or more. If you're working on a body for three or four hours and it's not down to temperature when you start, it's going to deteriorate very, very quickly. Bodies begin decomposing almost immediately. As soon as your body stops, the heart stops beating, the oxygen starts course, stops coursing through your veins, the bacteria begins to grow. You begin immediately to, to suffer the effects. Gases build up. I mean it's, it's gruesome stuff, but it's, it's nature taking its course. This is normal. In fact, a lot of the bacteria in your lungs, I was reading about this back when I used to do HIV litigation. A lot of the bacteria in your lungs, science, a certain scientist believe is there to speed up the decomposition process. Because the lungs are right there in the middle of your body, kind of like from your head to your, from bow to stern or whatever. The, the lungs sit right there in the middle. And if they're just coursing with, with, with bacteria, the second you die, they start immediately, amplifying, consuming, and they start that decomposition process. Well, you're going to want to cool the body down and keep the body cool. If the body doesn't show up to the morgue until 8:30 or to the medical examiner's office till 8:30, when do they cool it down to get it out of there? By midnight, to get the thing done by midnight. That seems very, very compressed, a very, very compressed timeline. There's a body release form, custody transfer log. This is legally required. It's a receipt document. When the body is released from the office of the medical examiner into. Usually a mortuary service will pick it up and take it back to the mortuary to do the embalming or whatever. There's a log, there's a log at that point. And this is a little gruesome, but when they're released, they're not like funeral ready. You can't just like roll them out to the funeral five minutes later. The mortuary service actually does quite a bit. They sort of piece the body back together, they sort of sew it back. I mean, there's a lot that goes into this, but they, that takes time as well. That takes time as well. So we know the body left the office of medical examiner before 4:45am it could have been as early as midnight because that's when all the pictures were done being taken. It didn't leave on Air Force One or Air Force Two, rather until 3:15pm Roughly is when it arrived to get to Air Force Two. And so if there's no custody transfer log, the state now has a gap. They have a gap. And it's at least a 12 hour gap. It could be as much as a 16 hour gap where the primary physical evidence in a capital homicide, meaning the, the crime scene, the body itself is sort of floating around out there. And there's private parties, there's third parties that are in possession of this body. It's unsecured, it's unmonitored. And keep in mind, all of this is before we've ever heard the name Tyler Robinson. All of this is before Tyler Robinson gets a lawyer who can say, hey, wait a minute, you can slow down, slow down. We have a right to preserve everything. We have a right to make sure everything was done properly. It was almost as if there was a race. Let's get this thing out of here before we have a criminal defendant. Because once we get a criminal defendant, everything may stop dead in its tracks. And we can't have that. And so you'll have transport logs, transit logs, there'll be dispatch logs, there'll be GPS tracking data. We're in the year 2026. We'll have GPS tracking data. There'll be an escort vehicle that follows a private transport van. All of this is available. All of this is supposed to be documented. So if they don't have it, if they can't produce evidence of that 40 mile or so transport from Timpanogos to the medical examiner before or from the medical examiner back to the mortuary service, then they can't prove where the body went. And I Think they're going to have trouble proving where it went because there were people standing outside the medical examiner's office and they don't recall seeing a body. Now, to team Erica. This is the part that's fun. This is the part that's fun. I'm going to go to a filing of hers. I'm going to go to a filing of hers. This is a filing Erica made. Now, again, Utah allows this weird situation where the actual wife or. Or whoever it is. Here, let me close it. The. The victim representative they have in Utah can actually file stuff. And this is an example of what she filed. A supplemental notice concerning access to evidence presented in open court. In other words, Erica has an opinion on what we, the people should be able to see. And I happen to agree with her in this case. She's the widow and duly recognized victim representative by and through the undersigned counsel. Notice supplements the notice, yada Yada, as before, Ms. Kirk asserts her right, upon request, to be present and heard on the matter affecting her interest, and so does so on behalf of the victim's family. The victim's family position is simple, good. At a minimum. At a minimum, every exhibit entered into evidence during the preliminary hearing must be visible to every person lawfully present in the courtroom. To receive evidence in a manner shielded from those seated in the courtroom, as happened today, is not transparency. And in the absence of transparency, speculation and conspiracy theories will continue to proliferate in the public domain relative to the tragic assassination of Mr. Kirk. Breeding doubt and trust into the judicial system. We don't want doubt and trust in the judicial system. This is not what anyone should want. We agree with you, Ms. Kirk. Dr. Kirk, we agree with you. We think every single exhibit entered into evidence must be visible. We could not agree more. It certainly would have prevented what happened on the final day, where everybody walks out and says, oh, my gosh, they've been showing you this blurry Bigfoot footage, but you should have been there on the final day. It was HD 4K. We saw it all. Okay, great. Can we have it? Erica thinks we should have it. I would like to see it. I'd like to double check. Agent Poso. Is it really that good? There were other people in the courtroom, like Brandy and Billy, who said, maybe it wasn't. I'd like to be my own, determine their effect. Absolutely. Every single piece of evidence needs to be made public. Absolutely. Every piece of evidence needs to be made public. So what is the relief Ms. Kirk is asking for? Well, let's find out for the Foregoing reasons, Erica Kirk, on behalf of the victim's family, respectfully request that the court, at a minimum, order all exhibits admitted into evidence during the last three days that were not published to the courtroom be so published during the proceedings scheduled for July 9, so that all persons lawfully present in the courtroom may view them. Well, you know what one of those pieces of evidence was? Do you know what one of those pieces of evidence was? It was the medical examination. It was the autopsy report. All we got of the autopsy report was an officer stating that he heard from somebody that the manner of death was homicide and that the cause of death was a gunshot wound to the neck. We weren't able to see it, but we know it was exhibit 11. We know it was offered by the state, and we now know what's in it. That autopsy report is going to have a number of things in there, including the manner and cause of death that. That they told us the conclusion. But it's also going to have a whole lot of other stuff, like the time the body arrived. Where. What time did the body arrive in Taylorsville at the medical examiner's office. Oh, we don't know. We're guessing around 8:30 or 8:45. At what time did the autopsy start? Where did the body move about in the facility in the meantime? Did they take it to the morgue to cool it down? How long did that take? How long was it there? How long was it on ice after it moved from being on ice? Where did you go then? Did you go exactly right to the autopsy table? What time did that take place? When did the autopsy begin? The actual, you know, opening of the body, the examination about when did that take place? How did you determine the body was the proper temperature? Who was in the room that's going to be in the autopsy report? We know only one name. It's an officer or, excuse me, Sergeant Barrett of the State Bureau of Investigation. As we discussed last night, we can't find one. We can find one Sergeant Barrett in all of Utah. And that Sergeant Barrett is a highway patrolman. She does traffic stops, she does car wrecks. Who was in the room? Other than a single cop, you would think there would be an autopsy assistant, maybe. That's typical. Who was that? What was that person's name? You would think there would be maybe an X ray tech of some sort. You want to do an X ray? Particularly if you think there's. I think it's pretty standard doing X ray anyway on an autopsy, I think. But if you. If you don't do an X ray. How do you know if there are bullet fragments in the neck, for example? You should be able to know the answer to that question. Did you do one that should be in the autopsy report? Erica Kirk has said that she has seen the autopsy report. She claims she saw it. So it's not like when her lawyer goes and files and says, we want everybody to see all the evidence that was submitted into evidence that she doesn't know what's in that autopsy report. And she's. And she would go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I know we said all. I know we said every. But I forgot about the autopsy report. That's not how it works. There wasn't a lot of evidence. I think there were only like 16 or 17 pieces of evidence that they. In that they entered. Lot of those were videos. Well, if. If you know what the evidence is and you've seen the evidence, and you direct your lawyer, I'm assuming you directed your lawyer, you direct your lawyer to go intervene in the midst of a preliminary hearing, which is, I think, highly unusual, and that lawyer says, we want it all out there in the public, then I think we should be able to see that, because all of that information we discussed should be available. It should all be somewhere. We should have access to it. And I agree with her lawyer. The absence of the evidence is causing wild speculation about what's happening. This was my point yesterday with the videos. I don't know whether he jumped in a car when he jumped off the roof. I doubt it, but he might have. I don't know if he made a phone call or some car pulled up and talked to him when he was standing in the parking garage stairs. I don't know whether he pulled out a second phone, and that's what they don't want us to see. I don't know whether he was doing hand signals to someone in the parking lot. I don't know. I can't know. But I do know when you clip the footage, you show him walk up, and then we see it jump ahead like a minute, and then it picks back up and it shows him walking down. And you guys don't mention that it jumps ahead, and you don't tell us why it jumps ahead. In the absence of evidence, conspiracy theories run wild. Because my mind, the way my mind works is I look at all this, and this is what we did. We pulled up all the footage and we looked through all the different footage of that they showed that day, and you started to notice these things were missing. There were a Lot of jumping around. There were a lot of things missing. And they tried to do these sizzle cuts. They tried to do these edits where they have arrows and circles. And the judge said, no, no, no, we're not doing edits and circles. We're not doing sizzle cuts. But then he allowed him to put in segmented evidence. He allowed him to put in evidence that had been clipped from the middle. They did it on the roof, they did it on the parking garage. I want to say there was one more they did. I can't remember what the other one was. Maybe him walking through the stairwells. I think maybe walking through the stairwells one time, the time jumped a little bit. But it's my contention Tyler Robinson didn't do this. I don't think it makes sense that Tyler Robinson did this alone. And if Tyler Robinson didn't do this alone, then it's my contention he was probably working with somebody or that that wasn't Tyler Robinson at all, or that maybe Tyler Robinson was one of the people that was working with whoever we keep seeing on camera. I don't know. Maybe Tyler Robinson was at Dairy Queen enjoying some chicken tendies in a blizzard. I really have no idea. But if you're going to jump the footage around while cars are driving through the parking lot, I'm free to speculate that one of them stopped and talked to him. I'm free to speculate that he called out, picked up a phone and called somebody. Then you can read his lips, maybe, or whatever. I'm free to speculate that he sat there and texted somebody. Seems like he was on his phone all the time. If he gets up on the roof and you tell me he put the gun together and you don't show me, you don't show him putting the gun together with a screwdriver, I'm free to speculate he didn't put the gun together with a screwdriver because why else wouldn't you have shown me him putting the gun together? Screwdriver. There's a key part of your narrative. You want me to believe he was limping into campus because he was had a giant gun down his pants. That. 30:06 is a big gun. I mean it's as tall as like a 12 year old. It's like almost four feet tall. Maybe not 12 year old, maybe a 10 year old. That's a big, big gun. More than three and a half feet tall. If you're going to tell me that he limped onto campus because he had a gun down his pants, And I just got to trust you, bro, that the video footage you cut out shows him pulling a gun out of his pants. I'm free to speculate he didn't pull a gun out of his pants. You should see my notes. I should show them. You should see my notes from when I was watching the preliminary hearing. Every time they did this, I wrote like 10 things that he could have done in, in. In the time that they jumped. Like, I think at one point I said he could have had a. Could have ordered a cheeseburger to the roof and had doordash delivered up there. I don't know. I doubt it, but he could have. That would be interesting. Delivery instructions. I'm at Utah Valley University campus. I'm actually in the Losee center, but not in the Losey center as much as on the Losee Center. Enter from the south stairs, walk up to the top. You'll see me, I'm in all black. I've got fatigues on, I've got a helmet on. May or may not have a 43 inch long firearm in my hands. Yeah, go ahead and drop that off. I'd like my cheeseburger. Bring a double fudge sundae with it if you could. I don't know. Why can't I speculate about that? Did he do somersaults up there? Did he barrel? What did he do? Where did he go? Because you keep stopping everything. Same thing with the autopsy report. I'm free to speculate at this point that an autopsy didn't happen. Why? I haven't seen one. I'm free to speculate that they did a crappy job on the autopsy. They did the bare minimum. Here's what I think happened. I'm free to speculate on this. Am I right? I don't know. But in. I agree with Erica Kirk's lawyer in this situation, because I don't know, conspiracy theories are going to run wild. Here's what I think happened. I think at Timpanoga's hospital, they decided they weren't going to do an autopsy. I think that police officer who radioed over the signal. I don't have my little, little box. Oh, yeah, it is right here. There's no autopsy gonna happen. They're just going to sign the death certificate, the wife's on her way. I think that happened. I think somebody showed up and said, look, we're not doing an autopsy. We're just going to get the body out of here. We're going to, we're going to call on the medical examiner. They're going to waive the autopsy. We're going to prepare the body, get the. Get all the paperwork in order. We're going to ship the body to Arizona. And the reason I think that is because Brian harpole made such a big deal on the Sean Ryan show about needing an autopsy. Brian harpole seems to try to make himself the hero in every story. Brian harpole was willing to risk his own life to try to save Charlie's. Ryan harpole. The way he tells the story, he's actually hanging out of the car. They're doing 60, 80, 100 miles an hour. They're yanking and banking. Apparently. Now we know from the 911 call that Candace talked about today, allegedly, we know that, that they are yelling at traffic to get out of the way. So apparently there was traffic while they're yanking and banking and doing 60, 80, 100 miles an hour. But Brian harpo loves to be the hero. He loves to put himself in the center of the story. He loves to make himself heroic. Don't sue me, Brian. I'm allowed to speculate because we don't have the information and because he wants to make himself the center of the story. He likes to weigh in on things. He likes to weigh in on what's going on. So he tells the story of him hanging out of the door and Rick Cutler, because he's got the tattoo, he's hanging on to him, and he's stuffing 36ft of gauze inside of Charlie, and he's. He's doing this and that. And then they get to the hospital. Finally, they get out of the hospital. They get him. They throw him up on the stretcher. Brian harpo, man jumps up there. He's cutting shirts. He's ordering people around. I need two CCs of this. I need that stat. You got to say stat. In a medical environment, if you're in a. If you're in a medical emergency, you don't say stat. Were you in a medical emergency at all? Did it really happen? So he's saying stat. He's get there, here, here, there. He's ordering the medical professionals around. He wheels Charlie. I think this is his story. I have to go back and listen to it, But I think he wheels Charlie into one of the rooms, and then he decides Charlie might need a defibrillator. So he cuts Charlie's shirt off. That's a prime example of somebody putting themselves in the story, because nearly every medical professional that has reached out to this program and others has said that did not happen. I've seen Videos on X. I've seen videos on YouTube. Nurses, emergency room nurses, emergency room physicians. Everyone's like, if someone tried that in my emergency room, I would have them arrested. There's usually police there. Get that man, put him in prison, put him under the prison. So if Brian Harpo has this I've got to be the center of attention thing going on, then there's something going on relative to the autopsy. Because to hear Brian Harpel tell the story, he walks in and they. And the doctor looks him in the eye. I have no idea why the doctor would look the security guy in the eye and say, what do you need? But Brian's telling the story. I think I'm telling the story correctly again. Don't sue me, Brian. I'm trying to be right. I could pull it up and show it, but that's boring. It's more fun when I tell the story, but if you don't believe me, go check the story. It'll tell the truth. But I think this is what happens. And he goes and he. He tells the doctor, we need an autopsy. That's what we need. That's the one thing we need. Apparently, they also needed scrubs, but that was a different story. Frank likes to tell that story. Apparently they also needed scrubs. I don't know what happened to their clothes, but they needed scrubs. That's what he needed. I need an autopsy. I don't. Again, I've never been a security professional. I've never had a friend die on me like that. And tragically, in. In person person. And I've never been in the hospital confronted with a doctor asking me, in the wake of an assassination attempt, what do I need? But according to Brian, the first thing that came to him's mind was an autopsy. And the reason is because he didn't want any of these dadgum conspiracy theories. This is a little bit of main character syndrome, in my opinion. Brian has now put himself in the story that didn't may not have happened. That whole story may not have happened. And it leads me to believe that something weird happened with the autopsy. So I take Brian Harpo's story about, oh, we need an autopsy, so we don't have a JFK experience. And then I take the radio call from the cops saying they're waving the autopsy. They're not going to do an autopsy. They're just going to sign the death certificate here and release the body. And I put the two things together and I say, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. I do believe before 3:30 before Erica got there, that was the decision that was made. That the decision was made. There was not going to be an autopsy. And remember, in Utah, that's a lawful decision. We looked at that law yesterday. There's two classes of people who can demand an autopsy. A medical examiner or the, or the law enforcement. The. Either the county attorney or the attorney general. Only those two classes of people can demand an autopsy. Someone from the office of Medical examiners, someone from the county attorney or attorney general's office. That's it. If the mom wants one, I don't know if they can require one or not. If the wife wants one, the statute doesn't say they have to have one. They probably would defer to the wife in that situation, but it doesn't say that they have to. I think along the line somebody said this is a really bad idea. You're going to want an autopsy here. People are not going to accept this case without an autopsy. It's a very high profile political assassination. Keep in mind, by 3pm my time, ABC News had broken into the regularly scheduled programming to cover the Charlie Kirk assassination without commercial interruption. I'm not sure they thought that was going to happen. That was a bit, that was a big issue. I remember flipping around on TV thinking all the networks have broken in on this. I mean, Charlie was a big deal. I get it. I mean he was, he was a well known guy. But it's not like it was Trump or Vance. It's not like it was Obama or some former president or even a secretary of state. It's not like it was Marco Rubio. It was a podcaster, it was a podcaster. So if, if something happens to Sean Ryan, are they going to break in on ABC News? I doubt it. His. Sean Ryan's podcast is higher ranked than Charlie's was. If something happened, Joe Rogan, I mean, Joe Rogan has the biggest podcast in the world. If something happens to Joe Rogan, are they going to break in on abc, NBC, cbs, Fox News, msnbc, cnn? Are they going to break into round the clock coverage without commercial interruption on the death of Joe Rogan? The tragic death of Joe Rogan? Probably not. And I doubt the people affiliated with Charlie Kirk thought there was going to be around the clock joined in progress coverage from major news organizations. Because that started about the same time that the call went out that there wasn't going to be an autopsy. And then two months later, Brian Harpole gets on a podcast and he, he has now created himself as the main character saying, I'm the reason There was an autopsy. I demanded an autopsy and I wanted it done fast. That's why we got an autopsy. Ladies and gentlemen, Brian Harpole. I mean, that's, that's how I took the story. That's. That's the impr. That's the effect on the listener, Brian. That's how it came across to me, listening to the Shawn Ryan show. And so I think at that point they said, oh, crap, we have a real problem on our hands. We have a real problem on our hands. We were trying to get this thing out of here quick. We wanted this body back in Arizona before anyone figured out he'd even been shot. And now we've got to do an autopsy. How fast can we do it? So the medical examiner shows up, I think around 10 till 5. We have a news camera coverage that shows the medical examiner show up. I think it was on 4:49 or 4:50, Utah time. It's around four and a half hours. After Charlie's taken out, medical examiner shows up. Medical examiner probably walks in and they're like, we're gonna have to do an autopsy. But here's the catch. The vice president's coming in tomorrow. That body has to be on that plane. And if you know anything about Secret Service, vice presidents don't hang out at airports. That's not the way it works. It's a very vulnerable place for a vice president to be, a very vulnerable place for any Secret Service protectee to be. You don't want to be in the airport any longer than you have to be. You don't want to hang out on the tarmac. All of the defenses on Air Force One and Air Force Two work in the air. They don't work on the ground. All of them, all the missile deflections and all that. An airplane on the ground is a sitting duck. And we remember in the wake of 9 11, for example, there were people who got into the secured area of airports with firearms, with weapons. There were people who. Employees who got out on the tarmac with weapons. The airports are very large places, very difficult to contain, very difficult to lock down and secure, really. So you don't want a Secret Service detainee hanging out on the airport. And so the decision comes down, we're going to have to. This has become a major news story. We're not going to be able to sneak the body out of Utah before anybody finds out about it. It's kind of like Osama bin Laden. You know, they. They told us he was dead after they had dumped the body in the Indian Ocean. Hold on. Yeah, I don't know if you can see. I don't know if you can see the eye roll, but it was there, I promise. But they told us they dumped the body after they told us they killed him after they dumped the body. I think that was the way they wanted to break the news on Charlie Kirk. They wanted, before anybody really started doing any coverage, Charlie Kirk to be back in Arizona, safely back on home territory, back at Hansen Mortuary or wherever they plan to take him back to. But unfortunately for them, they had to do a. An autopsy. Now, imagine you're the medical examiner. You're doing an autopsy that nobody wants. You're doing an autopsy that nobody wanted in the first place. You're told this has to be done quickly. You're told that the vice President of the United States is on his way and he's expecting to leave quickly with a body. He's not going to hang around on the tarmac for eight hours waiting on you to finish. There's really nowhere else for him to go. In Utah, they haven't done advance. When the vice president travels, they do advance work. They hadn't done advanced work that day. He just showed up the same day he left. I mean, like, unless they knew Charlie was going to die before September 10, they had no idea to. To go ahead and sweep for bombs and put snipers on roofs and all the things you do when the vice president travels. He just. They just flew him into an airport. Again, not a very secure place to be if you're the vice president, United States. And so there's a lot of pressure on you, the medical examiner, not only to finish the autopsy, but you can't transport a body fresh off an autopsy. It's hot again. It's been back at room temperature for several hours. It hasn't been embalmed. And there's a law that you have to embalm the body before you transport it out of the state. You have to have this disposition certificate we talked about. That's the reason I went through all this. All these records should exist, and they should start existing from the moment he showed up at the hospital. The moment he showed up at the hospital, the moment they declare him dead. He's no longer a human being, unfortunately. You become property. You become the property. You become in the custody of the state of Utah. Wherever you die, you're the custody of that state. And there's somebody charged with taking over each step of the way. There's a chain of custody that takes place. And so Charlie Kirk bang on. On this. On at 12:23, he goes down. They take him to the hospital. At some point, they declare him dead. Mikey McCoy, allegedly the general himself, the admiral, Mikey McCoy, the bravest man in the history of mankind, gets on the phone with the Vice President, United States. Get to Utah. We're gonna have you transport him out of here, stat. Again, you're in medical setting. You got to say stat. Get him over here. Get over here, stat. Okay, no advanced work. We got to fly in the Vice President. So you wheel the body into the ME's office and you know that the time is ticking. Not only do you have to do an autopsy, you've got to get the body transported from the medical examiners back to a mortuary service company that can, that can dispose of the body. Somebody has to pick up the body, they have to drive the body back to a mortuary service place, they have to embalm the body, they have to prepare the body, they have to put it in a transportation casket because it's leaving the state. All of this is why I think they were going to waive the autopsy, because all of this slows the process down considerably. And keep in mind, we don't yet have a criminal defendant. We don't have anybody in line that can object to the disposition of the body. We don't have anybody yet that can object to, to, to get, getting the body out of the state. And so the clock is running. The Vice President's coming. We don't have a criminal defendant. Let's go, let's go, let's go. How thorough do you think that autopsy was? I mean, I can see a situation where the ME shows up and is like, look, it's late, it's the middle of the night. They're making us do this. We didn't initially want to do this. We didn't think it was necessary. The doctor didn't think it was necessary. Everybody kind of roundly agrees what happened. He got shot in the neck with a 30 out 6 from the low cinnamon roof. But they're making us do this, guys, so let's, let's roll. We're not going to do the best autopsy we've ever done. It's going to be quick, going to be dirty, it's going to be done. We're going to check all the boxes and then they go through the process. I think that's what happened. I think that's what happened. I think if we saw the autopsy report, we would see that's what happened because we would know what time the body got there. We would know whether they cooled the body down. We would know what time the autopsy started. We would know what time all the photographs were taken. We would know what time the autopsy finished. We would know what time they called the mortuary service to come pick him up. And they would know what time they actually picked him up. And they would know what time they embodied the body. All these times would be documented. They would all be contained in a report form that we could look at. That's why I side with Erica Kirk. Erica Kirk filed a piece of paper saying, I want everyone to see that information. That was exhibit 11. The judge accepted it as evidence. Erica Kirk's lawyer said, all evidence that's been accepted, I want the public to see. In other words, I'm not morbid. I'm not a vile creature or whatever Blake likes to call people that ask about how Charlie's body was disposed of. If you're going to call me that, you got to call Erica that, because I'm on her side on this. I'm on Team Erica. I want to see what happened to the body. I have strong reason, in the absence of evidence, to launch into wild conspiracy theories about what may or may not have happened. The absence of evidence allows the mind to just go crazy. I could come up with all kinds of wild scenarios. I could come up with a scenario where they didn't do an autopsy at all. They just sort of cut a Y in his chest and move some organs around and said, all right, let's go. One of the things we talked about tonight, I'm not going to pull it back up, but the tissue samples, those are supposed to be saved somewhere. They were supposed to take tissue samples as part of the autopsy. I think I looked it up. I think they take bile tissue. I'm doing this off my memory, so don't, don't, don't quote me on this. Bile tissue, blood, urine, maybe stool, heart tissue and maybe brain tissue. I'm not sure, but they take like six or eight pieces of tissue and they take a good amount. And that stuff is preserved. It's somewhere. It's available, it can be inspected. And the law in Utah is it has to remain preserved until the disposition of the criminal case. Meaning if you go to a death penalty with Tyler Robinson, that tissue has to be preserved until the day the needle is in his arm. You can't just go getting rid of it. You can't just remove. Remove that stuff. You can't dump it. And if you don't have it that's real evidence that something was done very wrong at the autopsy. The other things you could do is take a DNA sample of it. I want to do, you know, if I'm the defense, I'm doing a DNA test on that heart tissue, doing a DNA test on all of it. I want to know that that's his body. It's hard to get DNA from. It's hard to get heart tissue out of a living person so that. That would prove death, I would think. I'll tell a funny story real quick. I had an infection on my arm when I was. I don't know how old I was. It was 2009. June of 2009. Had a really bad infection on my elbow, something called mrsa. It's awful. Got down in the bone. Kind of like it was all just all over the arm. It was going up my arm, up this way and down this way. It was terrible. I was in the hospital for a long time. And when I was in the hospital, they initially just were putting IV lines in my arms, but they were putting this horrific combination of drugs in my body, and it was blowing the veins out. It was so toxic. It was just like, destroy the vein. They would put it in my arm and then just. Just blow the vein out. So they. They stopped doing that. They put in a pick line. And that's just a line that dumps into your heart, right? And I kept telling the guy that I thought it was too low because every time I leaned forward, it was like, give me a jolt. And he was like, that's impossible. And I was like, you need to back it up because it's hitting my heart. He was like, nah, you just. It's in your head. It's not a thing. Can't hit your heart. I was like, I don't know, man. And it did it while he was sitting there. Just my whole body jerked. And I was like, I'm telling you, dude, it's hitting my heart. It was like, fine, I'll back it up a half an inch if that'll make you feel better. I was like, please, please, please. And he did. And it felt better after that. Never happened again. And I forgot about it. I think PICC line was in two or three weeks. I was. I had this little portable carrier, and it was giving me IVs the whole time. I had to change out a bag or something every few days where it could shoot more IV in me or more antibiotics. And I forgot all about it. Then it's time to take the PICC line. Out. So I go to the appointment to pull the picc line out, and the lady pulls it out. It's a weird feeling, by the way, just, you know, like pulling this giant line out of your arm. And when she gets to the end, there's this goo on the very end of it. And she picks it up and she kind of does this with it. And it's like raw hamburger meat. And. And she was playing with it. She had this really weird look on her face. And I was like, what is that? She's like, I don't know. I've never seen anything like that before. I was like, what? You've never seen that? She's like, no, I've never seen that before. And I was like, what do you mean you've never seen that? She's like, it looks like muscle. And then it clicked, and I was like, that's my heart. She said, what are you talking about? I said, when they first put the picc line in, it kept, like, jolting me every time I leaned forward, every time I sneezed, every time I laughed. It. It. It jerked me. And she was like, I think that's your heart muscle. So I don't know if I got a little bitty hole in my heart or whatever. If something ever happens to me. Someone check that. Make sure they do a good autopsy. Make sure you get it. And check out that area where the picc line would be landing in my heart. See if it did any damage in it. It. Statute of limitations has already run on. On that claim. But I. I'd like to know. I'd like to know. I don't even know how I got. Oh, tissue samples. So these tissue samples should be preserved somewhere. Someone should have a copy of these tissue samples. But I'm telling you right now, that is my current position. My current position on all this missing evidence goes to the most conspiratorial angle. The most conspiratorial. If you're going to clip footage out of him standing at the top of the parking garage, I. My mind goes to. He's talking to someone on the phone in a car. So maybe someone walks up to him. That's where my mind is going to go. What are you going to feel really stupid if you come out of trial and they. You're just standing there for a minute. Okay, then. They should have explained it. They should have explained it. They should have said that he didn't do anything. So we just clipped it down for the sake of time. I think it's stupid to save a minute on a five day hearing. But you should have at least explained it. Don't try to pull a fast one on me. When cars are disappearing and shadows are jumping all over the screen because it's obvious. And then the timestamp jumps, it's obvious. You cut a minute out. And if you're not going to explain it and you're not going to show it to me, my mind is going to go crazy. Don't tell me he pulls a gun out of his pants and assembles it with a screwdriver. If you're not going to show me, show me him. Show him doing it. I need to see him doing those things because other than that, my mind goes to a place where that didn't happen. Because if it happened, you'd have showed me. It's. It's intrinsic to your story. It's an inherent part of your story. I apologize for the gross descriptions of my heart. I apologize, ladies and gentlemen. It won't happen again. I will conclude this way. I don't know what Candace is sitting on, but I wouldn't want to be Blake, Andrew, Erica, Tyler Boyer or anyone else right now at Turning Point usa. I wouldn't want to be Jeff Gray at the Utah County Prosecutor's office. What do they call it? County Attorney's office. I wouldn't want to be Cash Patel. I wouldn't want to be the director of the State Bureau of Investigation, Bo Mason or whatever, whatever his title is, Public Safety. I wouldn't want to be any of those people right now. I wouldn't want to be Sheriff Cowboy Hat there in Utah county, the movie star. I wouldn't want to be him either. Because if Candace tells you it's going to be a big week, I'd buckle your safety harness. I'd tune in. I anticipate the attacks will amplify this week. It always happens that way. I do find a lot of irony in what she's doing, though. It seems pretty obvious Blake is gone. He's on vacation or somewhere right now. He's not going to be back on the radio until Wednesday. It seems pretty obvious Erica's gone. She's nowhere to be found. She did her speech in Seattle and has vanished off the face of the earth. And it seems pretty obvious Andrews is headed somewhere. Also, it seems like he's headed somewhere and I love the irony in it because every time Candace goes on vacation, the attacks amplify. You remember when she went to Russia? They went crazy. That's when they launched the attack on George Farmer and they launched the attacks on Candace and she's this and she's that. Then she goes to Spain and it goes on overload while she's in Spain for a week or two. That just nuts. It's just crazy. Your humble host doesn't face that problem. Because I don't take vacation. I don't have to worry about it. I don't have to worry about. We don't do vacations in the Coleman. No, we do. We do, just not often. Not often. Maybe we should. But the attacks tend to amplify and when you have this amplification and attacks every time she's on vacation, it's only right that she should wait until they're all gone to launch her attacks. I think that's exactly what she's done. I have this strong suspicion that, that it's going to be a really ugly week for these guys. It's going to be a really ugly week for the fed slop narrative. And it's going to be a really ugly week for tpsa. Really, really bad. You people who have committed to the mountain of evidence and, and I'll give my final warning. I think this may be my final warning. I'm going to be able to give you guys. You should run, don't walk and try to get a deal. That, that's, that's my, that's my take. That's my two. You should try to get a deal. She had braids on today, gentlemen. Braids. She wasn't wearing a bun. She didn't have on a hat. She had braids. The braids. She's, she's prepared to bring the heat, I'm afraid. And if you guys are committed to this fed slop narrative, if you're committed to this mountain of evidence, you're going to get caught with your pants down. Particularly if you're on vacation and you can't respond. It's going to be bad. I think you're in for a really, really, really bad week. It's my final warning. If you have a Lawyer, it's only 6:30 Arizona time right now. Call them a good time. It's a good time to put him on notice and, and maybe make an appointment for the morning. You're not going to be on the radio anyway. All right, guys. Excuse me. I started to cough before I hit the cough button. Appreciate you joining the program if you have not had the occasion to hit, like I warned you, it'd be a little cappy and gowny tonight. We have to cover the whole case and sometimes the case involves going through the requirements of the disposition of the body before you discuss what happened to the body. And we had to do it. We had to do it. It's part of the case. Part of the case. Everybody says, do you. Would you represent Tyler? Are you going to watch the hearing all the way through? Do you want to come on the air and. And talk about the hearing with us and do an eight hour live stream? And I always say no because court. Court is boring. Court is usually pretty boring. Sometimes investigating crimes are a little boring as well. But we have to do it. We have to do it. I just set up the rest of the week. I will. I have a meeting Friday I can't miss, so I will not be on the air at all. Friday, I'll do a member show tomorrow. Tomorrow I will not be on the air in the evening. In all likelihood, might decide to jump on after her show, depending on what she drops tomorrow. But I will do a member show in the afternoon, and then we'll see how the evening goes. But I will definitely do a member show tomorrow in the afternoon. And then Wednesday and Thursday, I'll do my regular live show. And of course, I have my meeting Friday morning, and that's going to last so long. I will not be able to prepare for anything Friday, not a member show or a. Or a regular show. So I'll be out Friday completely. Then I'll be back Sunday. Then I'll be back Sunday. So that's kind of a setup for the week. Again, like, subscribe notifications, all that good stuff. You know what to do. I don't want to insult your intelligence, but I will say that, that YouTube is really changing their algorithm. And if you don't interact with the video, if you don't comment, if you don't like, if you don't subscribe while you're watching, they think you hate it. Don't do me that way. Figure out how to lift the like button. You TV people, you'll be better off for it. All right, let me roll through some of your comments and we'll get here. We need. Tyler Robinson did not kill himself. Merch? No, that's too dark for your humble host. Someone else will have to do that. That's way too dark for me. If one were to stop twirling in a certain curtain while playing wedding music and wearing a dress on their way to have a lovely dinner with Blake Wynn, would she still be. Did I call her a six? Oh, God, did I say that for real? Yeah, she would. She'd still be a wondering, if no autopsy, would it have been possible to retrieve the bullet fragments? No, no. They told us they got him at the autopsy. When Candace said, I have explosive, I thought she was going to say diarrhea. No, no, I don't think so. She hadn't been eating Minnesota lettuce. My heart stopped because I was thinking about parasite and food. Always medical. All pregnant women stay away from this tummy sniper. Get fluids. Erf dehydrated. Is that really a thing? I don't know anyone around here who has it. That must be localized. I was going to ask you because you said Minnesota. I was going to say. Well, what? I was going to text you off air and say, what's going on with the lettuce? I heard it's up in the upper Midwest. That's why I said Minnesota. I'll be looking into that. It's like the prototypical upper Midwest state, right? Scary. We do not want our audience afflicted at a job. Today a customer had a on a Duncan Aviation polo. I casually said, I've never heard of them. He said quickly, I do work there. And acted strange. Maybe he's just a weirdo. Let me say this. I don't think everyone at Duncan Aviation is a criminal. I don't think everyone at TPUSA is a criminal. I don't think everyone in the federal government's a criminal. Are there criminals at Duncan Aviation, tpusa or the federal government? Sure, sure. Are all of them bad people? No, of course not. Even the agencies I hate the most probably stocked with some pretty decent people just trying to do their job, make a living. Prayers for my family as we've been trying to grow, but have been facing fertility challenges in the last few months. The right family. Christ is king indeed. For those of you listening and not watching, it's the W R I G H D, not the right. Like, you know, the right right hand, but no, no, the right family. The right family. Not that. Not that. No, no, the right family. W R I ghd. Well, I certainly will pray for the right family. Pray for my son Eli. He's 13 with type 1 diabetes, currently in the hospital because of DKA. Christ is King indeed. I don't know what DKA is, but I wouldn't want it. So certainly we'll pray for Eli. I forgot to say number one from Cave City, Arkansas. I didn't know there was a cage. I knew there was a Cave City, Kentucky. I've driven through it, I've been to it. I've vacationed there. Get that off of him. Yes. What was it? I can only think of a few things. I can think of perhaps a pulse oximeter. But why would you scream get that off of him. That doesn't make sense. I can think of a shirt but that was told the shirt was cut off at the hospital. I can think of a rode microphone. Go wireless microphone. But why would you need to get that off of. Maybe something fell on top of him in the chaos, you know, like a coke or a bottle of water or something. You wouldn't want that on him. Maybe. I don't know. I really don't know. Since we're pro Erica today I brought everyone sparkling pantsuits and fireworks sparklers for the occasion. Keep going Max. Crisis King. Indeed. I forgot. I should have. That's so good. You're so much more creative than I am. I should have worn a sparkling gold blazer. That would look great. Baron, have you heard of Fahmi Malak? I have not. He was allegedly the Clintons Emmy in Arkansas. He's interesting. Thank you to you and the team for all you do. Christ is king indeed. Never heard of him. Never heard of him. Brian Harpole dropped his phone in the SUV 2 hours 5 Sean Rancho I believe you. I believe you. I'm not going to go back and look at it but thank you King. Baron, I don't support this episode. Oh shy. I hope you watch the whole thing. Maybe by the end it made sense. It was a petroleum soaked burn gauze. They meant to get that off of him. Search McKesson five by nine burn gauze. He has a six like the unopened one under the mat Chars crumples in the ball in suv. I know y' all email averse wasn't sure if you wanted info. Why would you have a petroleum. Is that a thing? Petroleum soaked burn gauze. Is that a petrolatum. Oh, petroleum soaked burn gauze such as Vaseline Petroleum Gauze 0form gauze is a sterile non adherent primary wound dressing impregnated with petroleum jelly designed to keep minor burns moist and prevent the bandage from sticking to healing tissue. McKesson five by nine burn goes. He has like has a. I'll have to look at that. Is that really what it is? Because that's in. That's an interesting choice of gauze for a gunshot wound. Thanks Baron for all you do for. Thank you j Notes 1973 for all you do. Do we know who the person was that embalmed? Charlie, I mean we could guess. We could guess by Based on where he was, that it's someone who worked there? I don't know. Have we. I don't think we've named the facility. I did say it was in Draper, Utah. Maybe. We did name the facility. Did we name the facility? Yeah, we did. We did. Like a whole episode on it. Goff Anderson Funeral Home. That's where he was. So, yeah, he. I would assume. Is someone there? I don't know. I don't have the. The paperwork. But if that's the funeral home they took it to, I think it'd be someone there. Charlie said no, Erica. Tpusa said yes. It's clear to what. Hey, man. Just ordered. The True Nature and Character of Our Federal Government by Abel Parker Upshire. Thanks for being you. Thanks for telling me about your book history. You had me with the title. Good one. Well, it's true. I'm Team Erica today. I'm on her side on this issue. Released the autopsy report. She said so herself. She wanted it out there. She's waived it. She's waived the privacy. Today's my baby's 29th birthday. Can you please wish him a happy birthday? Garrett, your number one Humboldt county fan. Thank you. Crisis king indeed. Garrett, Happy birthday. Best guess, ck. Buried on Glenn Breck's private ranch. Is that something we can find through foia or license to do so? So we use FOIA rather liberally in this. In this context, FOIA is for federal records. There probably isn't a federal record for burial on Glenn Beck's ranch, but, you know, I don't know, maybe. They probably have to do some sort of local to Idaho. I'm assuming you're talking about the Idaho ranch. You'd have to do some kind of. Whatever Idaho's version of the public records request is. Hi, B. Just wanted to tell you I'm proud of you and think you're a great role model. Appreciate your dedication to the pursuit of truth. Christ is king indeed. I think we're closer than we've ever been to truth. I think we're going to find some things out that'll be very interesting. Brandon, I need to give you holy water to drink in this episode today? No, but we have some here at the house. I could if I wanted to. I don't know if it. Is it sterile? This gives me hope for our future and truth to prevail. Keep going, Max. Sir. Baron. Much love and Christ is king. Yours truly from Wyoming. Wyoming. Minnesota. Well, it must be a city. I was thinking the state of Wyoming. If the government is desperate enough to resort to this sloppy, rushed assassination. We should all be very worried about the current situation overseas. Yeah, I think that only ends one way. And I don't like where it's headed. I'm team Erica. Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby. Just today. Just today. 1. What did I title it? A day on Team America. Not a week, not a month, not a life. A day. A day. So excited for the revelations this week from you and the principal. Loving the hoodie color. It looks like a khaki green to me. I'll allow khaki green. Happy. Hey, B. Christmas in July. My. All my casual clothes have Trump on them. I turned them inside out. Now, my hubby surprised me with a new wardrobe this afternoon. All RBP gear. Love it all. Thank you, Nurse Casey. Crisis king. Indeed. Nurse Casey's the merch goat. She's the goat of merch. So thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. And you're gonna look great in it. I don't know. I don't know. Roll that beautiful bean footage. But I hope all. I hope he is. Well, I do, too. I just thought about that yesterday when I said roll that beautiful bean footage. Check in with us just to let us know you're all right or send me an email or something. Baron, is it just me? Are you surprised that Tyler Robinson's defense hasn't taken on his. Hasn't been taken on as a pro bono case by a lawyer? I don't trust his defense team. No. And I'm going to stop answering any questions about the defense team. I've probably fielded a hundred. My position is not going to change. He has the lawyers he's going to have. They're appointed by the state. They're paid by the state. I think he feels like it gives him his best chance of success. If. If Tyler Robinson decides to make a change, then that'll be up to him. He's an adult. If he goes with a private lawyer, he's going to have to pay for it. If he goes with a pro bono lawyer, in all likelihood, he's going to have to pay for all the experts. And those are going to be expensive as well. Hair looking sharp, my B. Thank you for what you're doing. Oh, is it really? Thanks, brother or sister. Baron. I quit mourning my husband and called Father Riperger to be here. Maximo, love you. Love you more. Rosie, I saw. I saw an interesting video today on Tucker Carlson and was a former friend of his. Doesn't sound like a current friend. I just saw like a two minute clip but it was a guy basically saying he needs to call an exorcist and I thought well that's awfully, you know, it's awfully forward. Thursday opening was beautiful and needed. Thank you. Thank you. I held my dad's hand last month as he took his last breath. Your show gets me through my long nights at work. I haven't missed show since Google Trends. Blessings. Blessings indeed. Thank you. Regarding time opening statement Just taking the time to express how grateful we are you made the decision to share your humor, thoughts, experiences, wisdom, crash outs and ingenuity with us full time. It sets you apart and why we love and appreciate you. Gby go be yourself. That's what I'm gonna say. And thank you. My b. My b. Thank you. Just say Julie, I appreciate that. It's very kind. Very kind of you to say that. That means a lot to me. Dispatch catalogs are worm systems white. Once read many write. Once read many logs cannot be deleted or the whole system is considered corrupt and nothing is admissible. Kind of like the blockchain I guess. Like you can't change one block finally made alive. Praying for safety and blessings for you, your family and daisies. Thank you for your time being a vital part of my evenings and making long drives bearable since November. Keep going Max. Christ is king indeed. We'll do our best and thank you for the kind words. 1 of 2 oh we got a multi parterly yesterday's show 25 years in pathology here. Autopsy can be performed same day but results final report take days, sometimes weeks depending on what kind of autopsy is needed and I think this autopsy report was completed within a week, maybe a weekish. Give a couple days on either side of that. So that would be consistent with that. Yeah. Asking for prayers for my son and his wife. They haven't spoken to the rest of our family for over a year now. The opening statement on time last week resonated so deeply with me. Love you be. Wow. I haven't spoken to the rest of our family for over a year. I've heard that so much on this show and it just breaks my heart. I just can't imagine. I can't imagine. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. Team Erica. Never thought I'd hear those words from our humble host. I hope it's a worthy cause because I'm always team Candace. Those two are definitely not on the same team, even though they should be. I bet they're on the same team on this issue. I bet Candace also wants to see the Autopsy report? I haven't asked her, but I could. Two of two tissue samples taken, need hours of fixation and minimum overnight to process a machine, then cut tissue, put on slides for pathologists to look at. Absolutely no way. All that was done on 9, 10, 25, I guess. Nikki, my follow up, since you seem to be an expert, is could that all And. And the answer Very well, maybe yes. But can all that part be done after the body's released or do you have to hold the body in order to make sure you've got the. That the samples work out and. I don't know the answer to that, but that's really good intel. Thank you. I haven't been in the chat in a while. This is for some goat water. Keep you hydrated. It's on sale at Whole Foods with your prime membership. Keep pushing for the truth. Christ is king indeed. Julie, thanks for looking out for me. I'll be sure to hydrate. I got a bottle right here I haven't even cracked open tonight. I got it out ready to go. Why would you have no interest in seeing autopsy photos? They could reveal a lot about what really happened under his clothing. Yeah, okay. I'll. I'll look at the photos of his body. I don't really want to see his insides, though. Kind of. I'm kind of squeamish on that stuff, honestly. I'll. I'll look at the. I'll look at the wound, the X rays, because that's, you know, X rays. X ray. And in the. In the chest. How about that? Now look at that. 2nd Thessalonians 3:3. But. Hey, and good point, Max. Good point. 2nd Thessalonians three three. But the Lord is faithful and he will strengthen you and protect you from the evil one. The irony of the number 33. Love you, my beagle. Max. And Christ is king. I mean, number one fan in that city in Wisconsin. Monkawaga. Monkawaga, Wisconsin. Well, here's the thing about it. There was no 33 in the original text. The chapters and verses were added much, much later. One thing you'll never hear from that 9 11, 911 call is frank Turek and Rick Cutler praying out loud. Well, I was told Frank was in the back praying. Now maybe he was praying to himself. Maybe he was muttering under his breath and it wasn't picked up. If that 911 call exists and was removed from the system and it. And people filed grammar requests asking for it and were told it didn't exist, I think. I think that's A crime. I think it's a crime to lie in those. In those responses I could be wrong. I need to go back and look at Utah law. Could the POTUS have sent his own medical examiner for Charlie? Could he have? Yes. Did he know like private hire and paid to cover everything up? I asked because of how fast it happened. Well, I mean coulda, shoulda, woulda. But no, he did not because we know it was a guy named Guajardo and he was the assistant or deputy medical examiner. Just subscribe to membership and wanted to send a super chat as a thank you for your hard work and thoroughness throughout this. Been watching for a while and finally able to support. Go Max and stay safe. Thank you Claire man, thank you. I really appreciate that you'll be hopefully present on the member show tomorrow. We'll have a good time. They're a little more laid back. If you've not never been a member, go watch some of them. You'll see there's a different type of show. I remember the interview Erica gave early on. She said she saw the autopsy report. If a report was even done. I have no doubt a report exists. I have no doubt that there is a piece of paper that says autopsy report. What I'm doubting is the veracity of that report and the supplemental documentation that would support that report and the thoroughness of the auto. I have no doubt there's a piece of paper. In my opinion, the Nolan W. From Mississippi is off as well. What? Adult allowed watched 18 year old boy drink boat ocean swim. That's who's responsible for tragedy. The adult's parents. Please take accountability. If usa Please take accountability. What justice? What is justice? I have no idea what you're talking about. Christ is king indeed. I know that, Jess. I appreciate your comment, but I don't know. I don't. I have not followed that case. I don't even know what it is. Your opening statement on time moved me to tears. Lost dad at 19, mom to pancreatic cancer. Loss and anticipation of loss gave me a profound awareness of time. Your words captured it in exquisite truth. Thank you. Love you be. Yeah, I talked to our editor over on the Clips channel and he is going to make a clip out of that. But it's, you know, probably a week from now before you'll see it. Baron first ever super chat. You were made for this work. Made, created, formed. Thank you. Thank you for your bravery. Please say hi to Brooklyn, Sienna and Jackson. Biggest fans in Kitty litter, Arizona. Go Max. Crisis king indeed. Hey, you know, after visiting Arizona. It did look a lot like a kitty lip. I'm not going to change my opinion on that. But it was beautiful. A beautiful kitty litter box. In fact, at one point we got detoured. We were. I don't know where we were somewhere in Phoenix and trying to get somewhere else. And it detoured us through this area. It kind of went by like a little zoo area, if you know where that is. And it was gorgeous. It was like up a hill, two lane road, winding. There were these giant, what looked like boulders, but I guess they were mountains. But they look like big rocks. It was wild. Cap and gown on. I did graduate summa cum laude after going back to school after 25 years while working full time. Love my haikyuu outfit. Peeps number one from Gray's Lake, Illinois. Thank you B. Christ is king indeed. Congrats on that high graduation there. Summa cum laude. Does anyone know what I can do to stop the buffering during this show? Since Baron changed his settings on podcast buffers very. His podcast buffers very frequently shows. The only one. Thanks in advance. Crisis king. I've not heard that. Is anyone else having buffering issues? I was unaware. I was unaware as fast they paid the scene. I bet CK got cremated. I certainly believe they tried to cremate him. I certainly believe they tried. I'm not saying they tried. Don't misquote me. I believe they tried. I have reasonably tried. I watch your opening statement on time again. Even more impactful the second time. Wise words from your humble host regarding my last comment. Sister passed two years ago, age 41. Brother when he was 18. Please pray for my parents. Christ is king indeed. Oh man. Gosh, Life is so hard. Life is so hard. Congratulations on reaching the 350. The road to 500 will be fast. Do we hit 350? Oh please let me go to my dashboard. Oh, we did 35409. Wow. 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If you just want a little dose of bear. You don't want too much Baron in your life. Just a little piece here and there. High B. Julian Dory episode with Joseph Scott Morgan backed up that a 36 could have wound and scoffed at another theory. He praised Utah Emmy office thoughts. I did eventually watch that whole episode. It took me several tries to get through it because I was busy. You know, I. I think he's an honest guy. I don't think he's a fed slobber. I don't think he's a dishonest individual. I will betray that. I have actually spoken to him on the phone in the last couple of weeks. We talked for about an hour. About an hour. Very good conversation. I think he's a legitimately decent human being who tries to get the right answer and, and we disagree on that. Reasonable minds can disagree. I think he has a. I don't want to say a bias. That's not, not fair. He's not here to defend himself. I think he has a reason for trusting medical examiners and the medical examination process, considering his background and what he does for a living and what he's done for a living. But we had a very good and fruitful conversation and maybe we'll talk again. We left it open to. To chatting again. I'm doing a little research. He's doing a little research and we'll come back together. But. But it was great. You know why? There was no hostility. There was no hostility at all in the conversation. It was. I was eager to learn. I asked him probably 70 questions in an hour, maybe 50, I don't know. He asked me a lot of questions. Both of us were very eager to learn. There was no pompous attitude, no name calling, no anything like that. And I think when you, when you approach a difference of opinion with that attitude, you can learn a lot. You can learn a lot. To me, the value of what he can testify to or what he testified to what he can say on the podcast. The great value to me that he can add is about the process, what is the norm, who should be in the room. Because one day we will see this report, I think, or at least a redacted version of. And if we get upfront from him what it should look like, how long things should have taken, what particular procedures should have been performed in a case like this because he is an expert, if we get from him those sorts of details and then we see the report and it doesn't look like that, then something was arai. If we get the report back and it looks exactly like that, well, it lends merit to the fact that it was done properly and that that will add a lot of weight to my conclusion in the end. I sit here right now firmly convinced it was not shot with a 30 out six and that a 3006 was never on the roof. He obviously differs and I'm okay with that. Okay. I don't do this show to try to convince people to see things my way. I do it to learn and to articulate to the best I can how I see the world. But Christ is king indeed. I agree with you there. Any evidence of LT being gay, trans or a furry? None that I've seen. Also curious about the text history for TR< prior to 910 to confirm a relationship with text Better. Yeah, I mean there's. We don't have it though. I too am curious but we don't have a grandfather B, Iowa Grandma. Keep up the great work. Continue prayers for your family. And Daisy, thank you for your commitment to truth. Thank you for your steadfast commitment to sharing the good news of Jesus Christ. Thank you. I appreciate that. Good news Indeed. Heartbroken for Ms. Reed. What a tragedy for that poor woman that they brought the remains of her baby to her like that after the lies and obviously criminal behavior of the crown is horrific. Thank you for sharing this. I thought it was. I. I came across that a while ago and I wasn't sure the day to talk about it. As you know, I keep a long list of things I'd like to maybe pursue an opening on and that was one of them. And I kind of had this, you know, bullet pointed out and with my sources linked for a day like this when we were going to talk about where is he? Was he buried? Was he cremated? Do we know? And today was the day. Today was the day. So thank you. He has a horrible story. Horrific story. I don't know what I want done with me. I can't go into the ground because I'm terrified of bugs. But I heard they just give you any ashes if cremated. Actually talked to a guy at a crematorium one time, quite by accident, was not intending to talk to him and did not know what he did for a living when we started talking. But I had to ask the question. You remember that tri state crematorium scandal? It was, I think up in Chattanooga or Georgia somewhere, but it was kind of where Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee come together. It was years and years and years ago. But when they, when they raided the place, it was a war zone. I mean, it was just a horrific environment. Bodies everywhere. They said people were getting because they, they didn't want to pay to run the crematorium. So they're just throwing bodies out in the backyard, really. And, and they were giving people like concrete dust instead of ashes. So I, I came across this guy and this is what he does. He cremates people. And I asked him about the process. It's gruesome, but I asked him about the process and because I have a lot of metal in my leg, and I asked him, like, if I got cremated, what would happen? That metal? He's like, oh, we got a whole bucket full of that stuff. Like we just sweep it out and toss it into the junk bucket every now and then, go get money for it. But no, it's, it's, it's a really fascinating process. But he let me in on a little secret. I did not know this. What you get back is not ash. It's bone. It's ground up bone. Everything that can be consumed is consumed. This is what he told me. I didn't double check it, didn't do any Google searching, but apparently what you get back as ash is like ground up bone. He said that's all that remains. Everything else is gone. Isn't that wild? That's just what he said. I don't know, maybe can't be believed. But hey, as for the bug thing, you're not gonna know. I got bad news. You're not. No one's gonna tell you about it. I sense a you can't have America without Erica campaign slogan in the works. Christ is king indeed. Holy Toledo. That would be a good slogan. You, you can't spell America without Erica. I mean, you can because she's a K, but you know what I mean. I believe Charlie was sacrificed a ball and his body was eating. Diabolical crisis king indeed. I thought that was a joke going around on X. Do people really believe that? I Thought that was a joke. You know, Owen Benjamin's a professional comedian. Like he does stand up shows. He's the one that came up with that. Maybe he was serious. Sup? Serby Serby. I've been promoted. I've been knighted. You heard it here first. Thank you for today's class informative. Have you noticed that Candace ain't even acknowledging Bun Bum bn? You two are moving with extra confidence nowadays. Sup? I'm confident right now. I'm confident I messed up my first super chat. Lol. Franklin, Indiana here. Home of Fuzzy Vandiver, one of the greatest high school basketball players of all time. Back in the 20s or 30s. The wonder five. I have three doodles noted. One comes into the bedroom later than the other three. He comes in and I say welcome in. Welcome in. Welcome in. Love the show. God bless. Welcome in. Welcome in. Welcome in. That's. I don't welcome anyone in except on this show. I don't think I ever have. My favorite things to hear one when talking about the seats we're sitting in. You will only needs the edge of it today, ladies and gentlemen. It's going to be a cap and gown day. Well, today was a little cappy in a little gowny. No doubt about it. No doubt about it. This may have been asked, but could TR's parents have signed an NDA? An NDA? With whom? Who would have asked them to sign an NDA? I mean, your answer. Your question is could. Yeah, they could have, but I don't know under what circumstances they. They would have. Hiya. My humble host. I appreciate, truly appreciate you and the work you and the gang do on this program. It's become part of my daily routine. Also, I love the way you say because that's all. Christ is king. Indeed. Love to all. I was not aware I said it weirdly, but when I said it just then, it did sound a little weird. I did. Someone did say opponent. I said was a little weird. I. I was aware of that on an episode. AK said when we paid some witches to put a hex on Charlie. If said witches were under an NDA, does his Freudian admission potentially release them from that? You think Andrew paid for the witches? I'd have to see that citation. My being Daisy, you're so very smart. Oh, thank you. Found out today our baby has a congenital heart defect, likely requiring surgery after birth. All prayers greatly appreciated. Thanks for all you do be and for this great community. Prayers indeed. War D4mn3AGL3 I pray that goes well. And I pray That I hope. Actually. I hate to say this, but I pray it's a misdiagnosis. Actually, I don't hate to say that, but I hate that a misdiagnosis would put you through all that. But man, I hate that. Your students are ready adorned in our caps and gowns. The opening statement was fascinating. Baron, you're simply the best. Indeed. Christ is king. Thank you. Thanks, Denise. Moon goddess had surgery to fix her pacemaker today. I'm asking for prayers for quick recovery and no further hiccups. Thank you. B and jury. Ms. Jackson, you are for real. I am. Well, thank you. Thank you. I tell her we wish her well, honestly, and she's not going to hear this, but if there's any PT after that pacemaker fix, I expect her to be on it. Opening broke my heart. I lost my full term grandson while my daughter was in labor. We couldn't even have an autopsy because we didn't want his body cut into. That poor woman. Oh, gosh, that'd be a tough decision. I hate that you had to be faced with it. Baron, if T.R. goes to trial, would he be advised not to take the stand? If I knew my innocence, I would. But I'm told by legal pros that's usually not advised. But why he's innocent. In my humble opinion, Christ is being. Indeed, I don't know. I mean, I've had cases of mine where the criminal defendant took the stand, and I've had cases where they didn't. One of them was an unmitigated disaster when he decided to take the stand. He was cocky and arrogant and thought he was smarter than everybody in the room. And he was not. He was advised strenuously not to take the stand and he did. And it's ultimately his call. And it was terrible. It was an absolute disaster. I don't know if he would want even. Even if he didn't take the stand, but it did not help his case at all. Certainly didn't help his sentencing at all. I mean, it really. There's so many factors. You can't. You can't sit from the outside and say whether somebody should or shouldn't take the stand. I see legal experts do that on TV all the time. Just. You can't possibly know. You don't know what your clients told you or what that client has told his lawyers. He may or may not have done. You don't know what impeachment testimony would potentially come out. You don't know the details of the case as well as they do. So no Outsider can make that determination. You know, if you don't think they've proven their case, there's really no advantage in taking the stand. If you. If you think you're in trouble. There may not be a disadvantage in taking the stand. I feel like Charlie Kirk's parents were threatened for them not to speak out. Plus, Charlie Kirk's dad at the funeral with two black eyes. I don't judge him on the two black eyes. I. I think he was probably in deep grief. Deep grief. I will say this. His parents look a lot older. One year later. That doesn't surprise me. Miraculous autopsy and paver time record. Yeah, it's hard to know which was faster, the decision to pave over the crime scene or the autopsy itself. Baron and Daisy. I work in organ tissue procurement. I know a lot about ME Autopsies, et cetera. If you want some more info from someone who deals with this daily, let me know. I'll send you an email. Christ is king indeed. Thank you. Poison kiss. Does that handle hurt your dating life? I'm just curious. I'm just curious. Have you seen what the Doctors saw about JFK? Eerily similar to about taking JFK out of Dallas back to D.C. yeah, he was gone in a hurry. There's a lot of consistencies in the JFK case. I love Rowdy. Bring it, Edge. We'll bring it. It's called a burial permit. Oh, well, in. In Arizona and Utah, they call it a disposition permit in the statutes. I wonder if Charlie was an organ donor. I don't know. Can you believe what Charlie's dad has said about the murder of his son? You know, Charlie's daddy worked for Trump. Charlie's daddy's a coward. Even if he's real. Not real. I don't know what he said about the murder of his son. And I don't hold that opinion. I don't know why you do. Baron, Is there a record for Thomas Brooks disposition before cremation? Since Emmy claimed to be unaware, I don't know who Thomas Brooks is. London Hospital kept my daughter's organs without my knowledge 32 years ago. Orange organs were returned to me a few years later. Some slides and samples will never be found. Due to samples being one of two. If I can find two or two real fast. Shared anonymously. Lauren was cremated 32 years ago, but her organs were buried. As I wasn't permitted to cremate organs during your opening night. Broke my heart. Oh, my gosh, I bet it did. You can still have a burial in the cemetery with ashes doesn't have to be a body in the casket. Go, Max. Christ is king. Indeed. That is true. That is true. B, I think you may have nailed why they need the TR narrative to work. If it is listed as a gunshot wound, there's no need for more investigating. In Utah, the Amy called it case closed, no autopsy needed. Yeah, it sounds. I. I am starting to think they were pressured into an autopsy and they did not want to be in that position. I. I really think that radio call kind of gives it away. Oh, I already read that. Check LDS records. Massive amount of records for bursts and deaths all over the us. I'm assuming you're talking about for Charlie Prez or VP could override need for legal docs. No, no, but they might be able to speed up the process. You know, if you. Whether you like the President or not, if you hear the President, United States is waiting on you to do something. You're probably gonna move a little quicker, you know, I would think so. Is it possible he was buried in his home state? Of course. Of course. They would have to have a record of that. They would have had to transport the body again. But yeah. Ben Shapiro is now like the greatest man of alive. Alex Clark at cls. I was there in DC because I run a TPOSA chapter. They are complete idiots knowing CK didn't like them anyways. Go Max. Love you, Baron. Ben, Alex Clark said that. Is he like a mafia don or something? Why is. What is up with him? He's a weird little podcaster. I'm sure he doesn't think too highly of me either. But that's okay, Mr. B. Congrats on 350. Thanks for all you do. Thanks for all you do. You know, without you guys, I'm just talking to a light all by myself. Oh, by myself. Was that Eric Carmen who sang that? Oh, please. Eric Carmen. Still got it. My daughter Emily passed away on 123017 at the age of 23. I live in Indiana. Took over two weeks to get her body home with all the red tape and autopsy was performed. It was an accidental od. It was a nightmare. Christ is king indeed. Give it a whirl. Hold on just a second. I forgot to plug in the fan on the camera. That's wild. That's wild. Yeah. That tells you that that being out of the state within under 24 hours of the medical examiner taking custody. The body is unusual. Highly unusual. Highly unusual. Baron, what if the medical examiner rules the death is an accidental electrocution? Does the examiner have to follow the same rules? Law. I don't know the answer to that. We don't have to because the medical examiner ruled the manner of death was homicide and the cause of death was gunshot wound. Has anyone reached out to TR's construction workers to ask them the last time he worked, what topics he often talked about, etc. I have not and I've not read where anybody else has. First super ever. Absolutely love this high IQ outfit. Love from the North Carolina mountains. Go Max Baron. Christ is king indeed. Thank you. Thanks for joining the super team. I can't make sense of. Of it. If Tyler is unknowing. How does not one family member, friend, etc not speak out for him? Yeah, it's honestly the. The silence of the family either means they are extremely confident in their defense or they just don't want to get involved because they think it's better if they don't. The correct clinical terminology is from the rooter to the tutor. I don't think that's the correct clinical terminology. I love you. Big crisis kingdom. I think it's bow to stern. But I, but I, I could be wrong. The rooter to the tutor. No like that. Of course she filed that because she knew it would never come out. I'm not buying it. They didn't go as they planned. Only decent pr, she said. I didn't think that was good pr. You know, the preliminary hearing was a disaster because of their PR strategy that week and the week after. If they, if that. If that preliminary hearing had sealed the deal, it would have been a completely different outcome. The attacks would have stopped. They would have taken the high road. They would have. Ladies and gentlemen, you saw the evidence. It indeed was a mountain. We promised a mountain, they delivered a mountain. We will not be speaking anymore on this topic. It's overwhelming. And then they would have shut up and gone away. I'm at the point where I'm actually going to need them to prove to me in court of law that Charlie is dead first. We still want the truth. If he's alive. We still want. We will still want the truth. He's alive. Too many involved. Ah. I think he's dead. I apologize. This already answered. But if the rifle was down TR's pants, wouldn't his sweat DNA be on the barrel? You'd think his DNA would be all over it. You remember, I think it was the rifle where they said his DNA was the most degraded of everyone's. You would think if he was sweating all over it all the way up there and it was rubbing all over his. I Don't know if it was in the front of the bag but if it was in the rifle holder in the back. You know what I'm talking about. The tutor to quote our I'm not being ugly. I'm quoting our previous commenter. But if it was in the tutor down his leg, you'd think there'd be so much DNA you couldn't get. I mean it'd be all over it along with E. Coli and everything else. I caught a live grateful for you and all you do. Oh, thank you, Samantha. Welcome to the live team. Welcome to the team. Thank you for speaking truth and opening so many eyes to the fed slop corruption. May God bless you and your family for the sacrifices you make to share truth. Go Max. Christ is king indeed. Thank you. Appreciate that. Can someone show that's in the judge's circle, please? Figure out a way to have him listen to Principal Owens and the great. My brain hurts from all the stupidity that's happening around this case. I don't know. It's up to the judge what he watches. Didn't the police say on radio Erica chose not to have an autopsy? They didn't say she chose not to have an autopsy. I understand why that confusion exists. Because the radio call existed in the context of her flying in and she was going to arrive at 3:30 at Signature. They were going to pick up a car at Duncan, pick her up and drive her over. That was the radio call. But in the midst of all that chaos, they talked about not being an autopsy. They were just going to sign the the death certificate. I really believe they underestimated the amount of news coverage. And all of a sudden they're like, oh, we don't do an autopsy. It's going to get really weird real fast. So is it true Ariel Goldschmidt was the ME for Thomas Crooks and Charlie Kirk? Per Ken Silva on Tucker Carlson Show. Isn't that interesting? I don't know if that's what they said, but that is not true. That's not true. The. The medical examiner for Charlie Kirk was a guy named Guajardo Guardo. I'm pretty sure the reason no one's showing autopsy stuff is because six months before his death, Pritchard and Peck made it illegal to disseminate any autopsy information that wasn't previously public. I think that only applied to the photos. I don't think that was any information. But I'll have to go back and look at that. That bill. Yo, yo. Baron R43684 states the body must be under 40 degrees or embalmed. So he didn't need to be at 40 degrees. Now, was he embalmed? No info. He was not embalmed until afterwards. We know that for a fact. And so it would have to be below 40 degrees. Good catch, though. Good catch. Good catch. I like the way your mind works. I believe. Read those in courtroom. Not open. Dual all. Yeah, but they were. The public was in the courtroom. And so if you're going to show it to the courtroom, you show it to all of us. Or get Brandy and Billy back in there and show it to them. They were there that day. They'll tell us what it says. Sergeant David Barrett or Officer Brian Barrett? I don't believe so. I think Sergeant David Barrett is on the highway patrol. Let me look here. Yeah, he's on the highway patrol. I think that would be odd because they said he was with. They. They claimed from the stand. Again, are these people not accurate in their testimony? Is the autopsy report not accurate? But they claimed it was a Sergeant Barrett with the. With the State Bureau of Investigation. Let's see. Brian Barrett. Now, that's a new name I've not heard yet. See? Is it officer you said? Yeah. Brian Barrett also is Utah Highway Patrol. Oh, and Brian Barrett just got a job with the South Salt Lake Police Department. So I don't think it's them. I don't think it's them. I think we're still on the hunt for the Sergeant Barrett from the state Bureau of Investigation that was cited at the case. Could Sergeant Bear be the same as the mystery cop in the LOSI with Bagley? Continue going Max for Charlie and the truth Christ is king indeed. If you guys have not seen Nissi Socials video from yesterday after we're done here, go watch it because that will answer your question. I think she has identified the cop and it's not a guy named Barrett. But man, she filleted Bagley. And here's the thing they're gonna have. Sorry, Hang on. All right. There we go. I should have turned the fan on earlier. Camera's having a little trouble. They're going to have trouble winning this case without Officer Bagley. He is crucial to the case. They're gonna have trouble winning it without Bagley and Nissi Social made the. The good. A good case that Bagley can be impeached with his prior testimony. He looked bad after her video. I'll be honest with you. Bag less. He's bag less, not bag. Lee, please do a deep dive on Loretta Footy I did a whole opening on Loretta Footy. Go back and go, go search my name and Loretta Footy. You might find it. Her apparent death was also filmed. I guess this is how they like to do it. Thanks. Go back and watch that opening. Go back and watch that open. I did a whole opening. Loretta Funny. You know what's funny about that? I think it's still the name. Hopefully. I have a group chat of a bunch of guys that I've known forever and yeah, yeah, the group chats named name is. Let's see here. Edit name. Let's see here. Yeah, Loretta Fuddy and the Frogman. That's the name of the group chat. Loretta Fuddy and the Frogman. So yeah, we've talked about Loretta Funny on this show and I've known about Loretta Funny a long time. That group chat's been around for like 10 years. I don't know that it's ever been deleted. It's a long group chat. But yeah, yeah, yeah. So we've done that. We've done that show. Lost my 2 day old son Zachary in 1987 at 32 weeks. Never saw his body after he passed because it was recommended not to. This hit home for me because I always wondered if we really buried him. Christ is king indeed. I would look at my son. I'm not saying you did anything wrong following medical advice not to look at the body. I get that. I understand that. But I'm just a naturally curious person and would I man, I hope it didn't cause you any distress. Tried sending first super earlier. Didn't see it. If Charlie held against his will like is Charlie held against his will like Hughes his logic. He thought he was on a staged exfiltration to protect his life unaware it was a trap. I doubt it. But maybe. Maybe. I'd love to see TR's text for all of 910, not just those allegedly between him and LT from that day. Same. Same friend. Same. Maybe they want to get Charlie back to Arizona quickly in time for Shabbat. Yeah, maybe. Maybe they had a couple days. They had a couple days. They had what? Friday sundown. We love you. And if those hoodie strings were a little more even our OCD would love you too. Are they not even today? See what we can do here. There we go. Is that better? Even enough. There you go. You take your plain if as he comes. I would love being on a jury with you, sir. What a ride. Crisis king indeed. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I think you would enjoy it. I used to have an 82 question litany I did on the. On these medical cases. And I don't think those jurors like me too much. Actually, the other day somebody said something on Twitter and it reminded me of a deposition I'd done in Indiana a long time ago, like 2014 or 15, I can't remember when it was. And I went back and read it. It's 300 something pages long. But I was up, it was late, Mrs. Coleman was asleep. I didn't have anything to do. And so I sat there and read the whole deposition. It took like two hours. And it did not make me miss trial work, I'll tell you that. But I got to that part where I went through my litany and I was like flipping pages. Actually I was on my phone, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll. I got to the end of it. In my opinion, if you're trying to pull off an assassination by yourself, you're going to be paying attention to everything around you. You won't be constantly distracting yourself with your phone unless you need to be. Yeah, I mean, you know, maybe you'd be a better assassin, I don't know. And I said that Utah, ME just resigned. But I can't found verification of this. Do you know anything? I don't. I only know what she said. I. I too looked, but I only know what she said. You rock, Baron. Thank you for the work. You do two things. Now let me say this real quick. She rarely says something so confidently without being right, so I trust her on it. Is there a low raised ledge on the roof of the losi? I think you're right. They did not do an autopsy. You think Charlie was cremated? That's three things. That's three things. I'll allow it. Is there a low raised ledge? So this is interesting. Blake Bednar's actually did good work on this on his page. He had a video on his X feed. I don't know if it's still up or not. I went looking for it the other day, couldn't find it. But he had a drone or drone footage. I don't know if it's his drone or someone else's, but it came right down like a foot or two off the LOSI center roof. And it kind of hung there for a second. And there was a lip. It was like a 4 inch lip. Now you would only know about that lip in my opinion, if you'd been on the roof. And so it's possible whoever got up there did not know if they had, unless they had been there before. Did not know such a lip existed and thought it was flat all the way off and then had to get up there and accommodate for it. But I didn't see any accommodation for that. When. When we saw the profile footage from the. The footage Candace had. She's had it forever. It was on X, but she. She showed it and she got in touch with the guy who took the photograph. I took the video. And to shoot over that lip, you would either have to lift the firearm over the lip. It'd be like 4 or 5 inches off the deck, or you'd have to hang the. The barrel off the. Off the edge of the LOSI center. And in that footage, I saw no barrel hanging over the edge. So if. If he. If he's not up high enough to shoot over it and he's not hanging over it, how could that person have shot from that position? I think that's a live issue at trial. I really do. I think that video could come into play at trial. What happens if TR is exonerated? Crime scene dug up and paved over. SUV cleaned and sold. Body possibly cremated. Evidence limited. Christ is king indeed. I don't know. I mean, they never went looking for anybody else with Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. They never went looking for anyone else with Kaylee Anthony. And they probably wouldn't go looking for anyone else with Charlie Kirk because that's the way criminal investigations go. I think this is our chance to investigate. Can TR Hang from one hand off a roof as in video? I've climbed a few peaks, and this is not easy. Hello from Texas. Xenia is my saint's name. God bless you. Oh. Oh. Accused you of being from. From Ohio. I. I don't know that I could hang off that roof in that position swinging. And, you know, supposedly he had a gun in one hand and everything else. You know, I mean, that's a lot of swinging going on up. I don't know. Your biggest fan in Arlington, Virginia, Laura the mortician did a great episode. Charlie Kirk Autopsy Rumors explained. Thank you. Where's your wedding ring? I don't typically wear one. I do have one, and when I travel, sometimes I wear it if I'm not gonna be working out like today. The workout I did was a hundred kettlebell swings for time at the beginning of the workout and every minute on the minute. You had to do double unders. I can't do 100 kettlebell swings with a wedding ring. It'll tear my finger off. So, you know, I don't. I don't like taking it on and off all the time and I work out about every day so I don't. I don't wear one. I also don't leave the house so you know, it's not like a statement to the public or anything. Hang around here all day. Like if I ever leave the house, I go to the gas station sometimes the grocery store, go to mass. It's about the only places I go. Sometimes Mrs. Coleman and I go out to eat but I don't really go anywhere else. Like I'm not out painting the town red. If I ever decide to, I'll put on a wedding ring just for you. Just for you. Oh, I skipped one. Was even autopsy given the video of Erica kissing him in a casket. He's embalmed in that video, right? Meaning the autopsy was done before. That would be the steps. Yeah. The autopsy would have been done and then he would have been transported to in a mortuary facility. That mortuary facility would have embalmed him. Would have. Oh, I got out of order. Would have put the body back together then would have embalmed him, then would have put the makeup on and put a suit on and. And. And then would have been presented. The Utah jury should certainly have reasonable doubt as the 30 out 6. Maybe it would be that simple. Always a great show. Thanks B. Ron. Christ is king indeed. Anyone who is fired a 3006 will have doubt. They'll have doubt because if you've ever fired one that's a cannon. Particularly if you shot something else. Like if you shot a 308 and a 300 blackout and a 3006 you like you could blind taste test those three and you know which is which. I mean you'll know particularly if you're not wearing hearing protection. A B Great opening statement. Kind of puts to bed the idea that a large number of people can't keep a secret. Christ is king indeed. I've never believed that the number of people involved has anything to do with secrets. I feel like our collective boat is about to hit the sound stage wall. Like the Truman Show. Christ is king. Truth will prevail. That's a good analogy. I hadn't considered that. That's a really good analogy. I kept thinking about this. TR asked for a specific lawyer at the police station and that lawyer retired a couple months later. Any chance he could have been paid off not to take the case? He was old. He had Oscar Liggins disease. That's what we call old in our house. O L D. Oscar Liggins disease. You don't want it you don't want Oscar Ligon's disease. Not for the week. Not for the week. Brian said he dropped his phone in the car and left it on. Lawsuit for Candace would protect attorney client privilege with Shapiro security team. Right. He's prepped with prep story with who had access. No, no, no. You're misunderstanding privilege there. That conversation wouldn't be privileged. You know, a conversation between Brian and his attorney would be privileged. Not a conversation between a security team. That's. That's not privilege. What happened with the FBI calling doctor out of room? I don't know. I don't know. I just had a mosquito Bite me 10 times. How do I know that it's one or more than one? I don't know. Charlie was a top shelf shaker and mover. He actually made great things happen. Who else does that except maybe Trump? Charlie had it. Charlie certainly had it. Candace played a good clip tonight of Erica speaking at her most recent stop in Seattle. And it was a stark contrast between what Charlie Kirk used to do on stage, which would wow people, even people who didn't particularly care for Charlie, acknowledged the extreme talent. And what we saw in that video was not extreme talent. At least don't follow the rules. They don't fear accountability. They never expected all of us. I agree. We agree. Way off topic, but I had a stuffed yeast roll from Quincy's. Like a stuffed animal, but a yeast roll. I love that thing. Christ is king. Indeed. A big fat east roll from Quincy's was among the top dishes in the 1980s. Hard to beat that. You mentioned Erica being somewhere two weekends ago. An STP to address it first for you. Did. Never heard about that since where she was. Yeah. I was waiting on a second confirmation, to be honest with you. I had one confirmation and I think it's right. But. And I know someone who could confirm it. And I'm waiting to hear back from that person. It would be interesting to know if they found those bullet fragments before or after Tyler turned himself in Great class today. It was worth putting my cap and gown on. They would have found the bullet fragments before Tyler turned himself in an eyelash going crazy over there. They would have found the bullet fragments before. And thank you. Thank you for the. The kind words. I think they underestimated how loved Charlie was. I do as well. Because they didn't. Not the same way. Not. They certainly didn't love him the same way. Brian Harpel did the autopsy just like he directed the medical staff. I doubt it. It. I doubt it. There's a contradiction Here. Okay, let's discuss. If the murder was meant to be low key and news coverage was a surprise, why have JD fly in on Air Force One? Well, it's Air Force Two and. I think you could still do that and have the photo op and all that. I don't think they anticipated every major news organization breaking their coverage and covering it wall to wall without commercial interruption. I just don't think they plan. I don't thought that was going to happen. Why is Charlie's nickname in Erica's court filing? Court docs are usually very formal and tend to use your official government name, not a nickname. If you had a. A court filing with Bill Clinton and you were like referring to Bill Clinton, you call him William Jefferson Clinton? No, he's Billy Slick Willie. I love you, my B. You are truly one of the good guys. Thank you. Very kind of. Do the haters and paid influencers on social media X get more visibility and money if we comment on their post? Yes, they do. If so, we should all ignore them. Yes, you should. Thank you for all your hard work and long days. Thank you. Thank you. Am I dreaming or did Candace say she saw the autopsy report soon after Charlie's passing? I have not heard that. But you'd have to check with her. I don't believe so. I don't think I've heard that was Charlie. An organ donor could be possible. The autopsy had several people doing it. I don't think you can do an autopsy like that on an organ donor because you have so many hours that pass after the body's dead and you cool it. And you heat it. You cool it and heat it. I don't. I don't know. I'm not an expert in that, but I. It's just. It's just the way it seems to me. Maybe a partial exam because they saw how you died. That's kind of what I'm thinking. Like a half. Give the old college try. Someone take some of Gary's brain tissue from paralyzed Tactical. Oh, I don't know what was on JD's agenda for the 11th before he was rerouted to Utah and Arizona. Anything? That's a good question. I don't know. I was switched at birth and my mom called out the nurse saying this isn't my child. After they told her she was wrong, she persisted. The head was too small and were forced to find me. Wonder where I was, though. Well, that's a wild story. I wonder how often that happens. You know, we don't let our kids leave the room. They don't go to the nursery for anything. And if they have to take them to the nursery, I go with them. We don't. We don't do this nursery business. Everything's done in the room. Baby stays in the room, sleeps in the room. When mom goes home, baby goes home. Baby doesn't. Baby doesn't leave the room. So no switcherooskis for our kids. No switcherooskis for our kids. But I don't know where you were. That's wild. It takes three to four weeks for toxicology and autopsies alone. How did me have final report on 9 15. Most Utah cases have final reports done under 90 days. Oh, is that a jack factory? I did not know that. That's good intel. Good intel. Pick line got put in too far on another firefighter I work with. It hit his heart. Also ended up having a stroke because of it. I can confirm hitting the heart with a pick thing. Can't happen. Pick line can happen. Well, I'm glad I didn't have a stroke. I don't think I did. Hope. I don't. I don't think there's anything wrong with the questions you posted last night. Keep going. Max Baron, thank you for all you explained to us and the truth you always bring. Christ is king indeed. I wasn't trying to be controversial with them. I was just trying to point out that you guys have created the conspiracy theory. It's your fault. Like if you don't want there to be conspiracy theories, put a rest to it. You can. Like if someone says, hey, were you somewhere else? No, I was here. Here's the evidence. I'm sorry, is there anything else I can provide you. Here's my calendar. Here's my. Like I wasn't there. Like, if you don't want us thinking he was talking to people while you're standing at the stop at the stair top of the stairwell, show me the other minute of footage that was erased. You want me to think he pulled a gun out of his pants? Show me and pull a gun out of his pants. Do you think? If you want me to believe he screwed together a 30 out 6 on the roof. Show me him screwing the gun together on the 3006 on the roof. I'm not the cause of the conspiracy theories. What I'm pointing out is it's a personally perfectly rational response when things are being hidden from you to think the worst. What if your kid came home at 3am 16 years old, you say be home by 10:30, you're going to the movies. Movie gets out of 10, come home at 10:30. You can stop at Taco Bell on the way home, but come straight home. And your son comes in at 3am, you don't know where he's been, and he walks in and you're like, where were you? He's like, I don't tell you. I'm not telling you where I was. What are you, vile creature? Well, do you think he was up like an all night adoration on his knees praying for the souls of the faithfully departed? No, probably not. In that situation, maybe, but probably not. Your mind's going to go to out partying, drinking, carousing, you know, chasing women. Like your mind goes there. And that's a natural thing in the absence of evidence. So if you don't like the conspiracy theories, then answer some questions. These are normal questions. Most people who are buried, they tell you, yes, he was buried, yes, he was cremated, it's not a big deal, who cares? But if you refuse to answer the question, then it seems like something's being hidden because they're normal questions. Where were you when you found out the news? You should have a solid answer to that. Here's where I was. We heard you were somewhere else. That's not true. But if we say, well, we heard you were somewhere else, and you say, and then the guy that you call and say, was she here? They go, I can neither confirm nor deny she was here. Well, he can't confirm or deny you were there, can you? I don't have to answer your questions. It's 3am Son. Where you been? You better start answering questions. You're gonna reveal where Erica was? Oh, yeah, eventually. Price is king. And Deke. Oh, Max, thank you. Thank you. Number one reason I believe the new Charlie was going to die is Vance. The new Charlie was going to die. His Vance. Not a snowball chance in hell he would just show up three or four hours later without advance preparation. Oh, oh, oh, let me. The reason they knew Charlie was going to die is fans. It's a little unusual to me, if we're being honest, that you would fly a vice president into an airport that had not been cleared and it was announced he was coming. That's unusual to me. That's unusual to me. But bear on your opening. Last week my daddy died with pancreatic cancer, blood clot sepsis. But four, eight sibs too. My daddy lived his faith. But I was not ready. Grief is torture. Christ is king indeed. Love you be. I love you too. Sorry to hear about your dad. Perhaps they had paperwork ready to go. Precious King, indeed. Yeah, I hope not. Was lance Twiggs the first one to the DA's office for the deal? How would we know? It's a good question. That's a good question. Most days they average about 10, which without complications, takes about an hour each. Desiree article on Utah Medical Examiner. 11, 20, 25. An hour long autopsy. I don't believe that. I refuse to believe that. Especially not a homicide victim. Hey, B. Did they go to surgery entrance rather than the ER entrance? Also, I'm going back to your earlier shows and. Wow. Wow. Yeah, imagine that. Wish everybody would. Wish everybody would go back and watch the earlier shows too. You know, days were off. Go watch another show. Go watch an earlier show. I don't know which entrance they went to. There was that one video. We played it or part of it because he started cussing so much. I turned it off. But that guy claimed to be an eyewitness and claimed they went to the surgery entrance and not the emergency room entrance. But I don't know. I wasn't there. And they stole the camera footage, so we can't know. With all due respect, no one's ever going to pay for this tragedy. Just how it goes. They've submitted their case. Everyone else need not worry. But what if. What if new evidence comes out that directly contradicts what they told us? Like that's, that's where I think they may get hammed up or hemmed up. Jammed up. I think I combined the words there. That's where I think they might get jammed up if, if, if they told us X, Y and Z happened in that order and then for whatever reason new evidence comes out and it's Z, Y, X, man, that's critical distinction. And they knew it. So you would have to ask, why did they lie about it? Well, the only reason they would lie is if they're covering something up. Right? Moon goddess. Hello. I'm. Her daughter asked me to update you on how she's doing. She's heavily sedated. She wanted to say thank you. She's fine. She loves y'. All. Thank you. Oh, gosh. Moon goddess's daughter. Thank you. That's very kind of you. Thanks for the update. Tell her to do her PT when she gets better. Are they all on vacation or are they seeing how this thing is going down, perhaps decided to go on the lamb? Just kidding. I think. No, I don't. I don't think they're on the run. I think they. I think they had plans. I think Eric is on vacation. I think Andrew has plans. I clipped the LOSI center footage. Mid assassination, our suspect set a romantic picnic for his lover with an impressive charcuterie board, including 33 varieties of cheese. We value the privacy of our patsy. I mean, suspect. Yes. How do we know, Rosalie, that that didn't happen? How do we know he was the only one on the roof? You're just. We're just taking it at face value. What if there were two people up there? What if they come out with the whole footage and it becomes obvious there's a second person on the roof? Imagine that. Imagine that. And they're waving at each other and they're. You know what I mean. Imagine that. That there's two people. But Baron. Why are you suggesting there's two? I'm not suggesting there is. Baron, Coleman said there were two people on the roof. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. What he said was, imagine if that happened, how devastating that would be to their case. The case would be over because they would have known it and they would have lied about it. That was the point I was making last night. We don't know what happened. And what if. What if. What if he gets up there and he's on the phone and he's. And he's. And he's. He's doing this and he's telling someone to move over? Am I suggesting. I know that to be the case? No, not at all. But what if that happened? What if that's what was clipped out? How would it have changed your opinion if you knew they knew that happened and they didn't tell you about it? How would it change your opinion of the Fed slot narrative? If you're Officer Tater Tot or your Agent Poso or your Benny boy, are you still going to come out and say mountain evidence? Mountains? No, you look foolish. You look foolish. And that's my point. If, when the whole video comes out at trial, if there's anything at all that's different from what we've been told for a year, year and a half, two years. Because I have a feeling that you're not going to see video till trial. And I hope the defense team forces the whole video to come out. But what if the video comes out and it's not what we've been told? Well, the jury won't know we've been lied to the whole time because they're going to pick 12 people who haven't heard about it. And so they're not going to have the shock value that the whole public has. But you and I will be stunned. Stunned. If they release video from the parking garage and he's standing up there and a car rolls up and rolls down the window and hands him something, and that's when he, like, sits there and then they pick it back up and that's the video footage we see. And he sits there and he puts his phone back in his pocket and walks off. What if that happened? How would it change your opinion of the case? And as long as there's all this clipped footage, I don't see how any fed slot person can run out there and say, I'm confident Tyler Robinson did it, and I'm confident he was working alone and I'm confident he was. Had a 30 out 6 on the Lowy center roof. You can't know that because the video's all chopped up. That was my point. That was my point. Not that he jumped in a car and went to the library, but that he could have jumped in a car and went to the library. And we don't know because they stopped the video. That's my point. That's my point. Can we request records regarding when JD And Secret Service plan to go to Utah? They had to know something before the CK hit. Keep going. Christ is king indeed. Actually, yeah, I think you probably could. That's probably a really good. Well, maybe. I don't know if they'll tell you the movements of the president or Vice president, but it's worth a shot. My mom got MRSA in her brain after surgery from an aneurysm. Made her lose her mind. She pulled out her picc line four or five times. It was awful. Your heart is big enough. Can spare a small piece? Oh, thank you. Crisis king indeed. Thank you and very kind. I hate to hear that about your mom, though. I hope she made a complete recovery. I was shopping for new dishes online the other night, and when I read bone china, all I could think of is the way you say bongina. You were shopping for bone china? That made me laugh. Candace got them ufc fighting braids. Oh, man. As soon as her podcast came on today and I saw those braids, like, it was doing the countdown thing. It was like, you know when it like, floats her name around and all of a sudden it popped up, she's like, all right, you guys. And I was like, braids? They're cooked. These guys are toast. And they don't know it yet, but it's about to get really ugly. I feel bad for these people. I started having a heart diarrhea Covid, 26 was bad in northwest Ohio and southeast Michigan. See, I told you. Upper Midwest. I told you. Wait a minute. Northwest Ohio? That's Toledo. How can you tell? I kid. I kid people. I have family in Toledo. Baron. Ukraine. Haha. Disregard if the jury's already told you. But that was not a. Just a clot on the end of your pick line. Pretty typical. Sorry the nurse freaked you out. Definitely not a piece of your heart. Oh, praise the Lord. Glory hallelujah. I'll take your word for it, Rosie, because I don't want to know the other. I'll just assume that's true. But the other guy told me now what was causing the jolt though. Well, that was clearly the heart. I've been regularly checking your friends go fund me. And it's up to almost 3:15. Why no, I did not. I haven't checked it in day. Maybe two weeks. Week or two. So incredibly proud of this Haikyuu outfit and so excited for a birthday member show. Love you, my B. Oh, is it your birthday tomorrow? Happy birthday, Dev1 7R 3X. If that is your birth name. Forgive me that I was skeptical about today's show based on the title, but you did not disappoint. Keep up the excellent work, Baron. And. You had. You had doubts. You doubted your humble host. Get that off him. Equals Frank Turek doing cpr. I doubt it. I doubt it. May have been a carving knife. I kid. I kid. I kid. That's a joke. Going back to the Owen Benjamin joke. I think it was a joke. I just knew you were going to show up in red braids tonight. Alas, Candice is bringing it this week. Sounds like it. Sounds like it. No, I. I don't have braids. I can't. I can't braid. I guess I could. I mean, she could braid that. Maybe I'll go in for some cornrows. You know that's the best I can do. I can't have the little like, Viking braids. What's that girl's name? They had the braids. Pippi Longstocking. Those are braids, right? Best empirical evidence. The LGBT community has religiously boycotted Chick fil A since 2012. There's no way a LGBT extremist willing to murder for his beliefs would eat at Chick Fil A on his way to assassinate his nemesis. I'll take your word for it. I always like at the beginning of the broadcast. I have yet to ever want to take my like back. Oh, 100%. Oh. Oh, yeah. You saying you always Hit the like button, please. By all means, if you have not yet hit the like button. Now's a good opportunity. Now's a good opportunity. God bless you. Oh my. Be my bee. Thank you, thank you, thank you. God bless you too. I'm sorry, I didn't know that. Oh, got some, some speckles there or something. How come when I Google Hasbro it no longer gives me the meaning but references Hamas? Also try aquapana, water and glass bottles. Thank me later. Let me try this Hasbro I have googled. I did not get anything about Hawas. I don't know. I don't know why your Google's that way. Mine is not. Mine is not. Did we ever figure out why or how Blake was qualified to work for the War College when he is a writer? Not enough schemes to be spoken about this. That's a good question. I hadn't put much thought into it. Not a fair portion of my time is taken up thinking of Blake Snuff, Brigadier General Blaine Holt, and Navy serial Rob o'. Neal. Speaking out is a game changer in my opinion. Thank you for all you do. Charlie was special. Yeah. I don't know why that's making the rounds now. That was like 90 days ago they did that show but. But it is making the rounds again for sure. Please pray for me. My cousin's 17 year old son. I recently found out he was in a youth shelter after her passing, Had a lot of trauma and I'm picking him up, take him to the boys ranch tomorrow. Christ is king indeed. I will pay. I will do that. Oh gosh, I cannot imagine, you know, kind of the there but for the grace of God go I kind of thing, right? We, we really, we really take advantage or we really take for granted, I guess is a better way to say it, the circumstances into which we were born. You know, there are people who are born, we're told, and live their entire life and die in a prison camp in North Korea. And they don't sit around and watch podcasts. They don't get up in the morning, go to work. They don't find the love of their life and try to start a family. They don't, they don't ever know the feeling of sitting in a. A new to you car. You know, when you get that car for the first time, it could have 185000 miles on it, but it's new to you and it feels great. Looks good, drives good, drives well. And it's, it's, it's, it's Hard because we, we, we have these little trite Bible verses that God works everything out for those who love him and whatever. Romans 8 and, and for a lot of people they're just born into horrific circumstances. I mean just utter destitute. Poverty. Poverty in a village in Bangladesh. They're born into a refugee camp in Sudan and that's their life. That's all they know. I mean kids are pretty adaptable. You know, very young kids who are poor don't know they're poor until they're told and they realize it. But by the time you're 17, you know it. By the time you're 17 you look around and realize you're having a pretty bad go of it. And I feel bad for that kid. I'll pray for you. Was a custodial records for a 911 dispatch center for years. The physical record of any call cannot be removed. Worm. It would take a custodian intentionally saying it doesn't exist. I think that's, I think that's what she's saying is extraordinary measures may have been taken to, to hide that call. Google trend search for microphone explosive. I believe that. I don't know what this means. Merch for rbp. I don't know what that means. Oh, I don't know what that means. No, I do know what that means. I do say that a lot. But I don't want to lie to you. If I don't know what something means, I'm not gonna sit here and make it up. Baron. Hemostatic G. Hemostatic gauze in your Gmail. Picks of burned looking material. I believe you. I'll check it out. I have no reason to doubt you. Petroleum soaked gauze for electrical shock comes in foil packet floor of suv. I'll have to go back and look at those pictures. I, I believe all of you. I'm not doubting any of you. But I have to go back and look at it. Get that off of him. Patch on his right chest before arrival to er. Yeah, I'm starting to wonder if he had some sort of power supply under his, like taped to his body, you know what I mean? And I don't know what it would have been powering, but maybe. Charlie is at Alcor Life Extension foundation in Scottsdale, Arizona. Cryonic preservation. Yeah, I think in those situations I've looked into that. I think in the situation of the, the cryonic preservation, everything has to move really fast. It ideally works best when your death is sort of planned and you know you're about to die and you Sort of go, and you've got the team on hand, and as soon as they call you, they start, they jump into action and they take care of everything because the, the, the cells start the death process immediately. Immediately. So you got to immediately cool the body. You got to immediately do this. We know that didn't happen to Charlie, so I'm skeptical of that. Or we're told that didn't happen, so I'm skeptical of that. What percentage of attorneys general like Pam Bondi you think are corrupt and working with secret clubs? You think a bullet went through Trump's ear? Trump using fake news expose, Smith Mundt. That first question's tough. I'm sure there have been honest attorneys general that just are there for the right reasons. But I, I keep in mind with the appointment process, this goes for Supreme Court justices, district court, circuit court judges at the federal bench, all, what, hundreds, probably, of federal appointments that have to be confirmed by the Senate. You got to be confirmed by the Senate, so you already have to be accepted by the club or you can't have the job. It's one of the major problems with the Supreme Court. They're never gonna, they're never gonna take Article 1, Section 8, and, and, and apply it back to its original foundational structure that I think it was supposed to be in the Commerce Clause, because doing so will basically destroy the ability of the federal government to do anything. Like it would so neuter the federal government if Supreme Court would ever reverse that interpretation, that broad Commerce Clause power, and, and then do away with completely the dormant Commerce Clause power. And so I think you, you're asking for a judge to somehow get confirmed that, that believes that the Commerce clubs should be just completely shredded back to what it originally was intended to be. And you got to get that through a Senate who. All of its power comes from a very expansive view of the Commerce Clause. So that's, that's, that problem that exists with federal judges also exists with federal appointments like the Attorney General. So if you had someone who was on the record and known to want to greatly limit the power of the federal investigative branch, they're not going to get in. They're not going to get in. And so that's kind of my issue there. It's a good question. Oh, you got a second question? Do I think a bullet hit Trump's ear? I do, but I don't think it went through the cartilage. I think it just nicked the skin, but I don't know. I don't know for sure. I'm not 100% sure on that, man. Glad you're good. Oh, thank you. Me too. Nurse, Drop ball. Improper placement of central line can lead to cardiac tamponade. Isn't that a sandwich? Tempanati. Isn't that a. Like an olive relish? What's that stuff called? It's an olive relish tamponade. Where Condition where fluid builds in pericardial space, compresses heart and impairs function. Well, hope that didn't happen. How can I get checked for that? Do I need to see a cardiologist? That was darn near 20 years ago. It's obvious they didn't follow the law. Workers were in awe of the notoriety of CK&JD and the goons came in and ordered what else was happening. They lie so much too hard to keep thoughts focused. I think the involvement of JD Vance. Complicated and honest investigation. And that's not to say J.D. vance did that on purpose. Whether he did or not is unknown. But me saying that is not me suggesting that. Me saying that is just recognizing reality. And once the. Once the vice president says, I'm going to pick him up and I'm on my way, everything gets rushed, everything gets hurried. Everything's done abnormally. Edge pathology is my favorite class. And stories like yours or why most hilarious were the radiological images of foreign objects in men. Never have an MRI while storing. A backdoor guest just said, oh, Edge. Up, down. Stu Peters. Ex post. Pray for Candace. Info. Inside info. Huh? I don't know what that means. If you're asking my opinion on Stu Peters, he's fine. I don't. I don't dislike Stu Peters, you know, I hate that in this world you have to say, I don't agree with everything you said. Like, I like Tucker Carlson. I don't agree with everything he said. I like Joe Rogan. I don't agree with everything you said. Everybody has to say that. But. But I like him fine. I don't. I don't know what the X post is. You're saying he made an X post? He's probably just saying Candace is about to bring the thunder. But I don't know. Edge, you tell us about these meetings, so then tell us about those meetings. Well, if it's about work, fill us. I can't disclose all of them, but this one I can, but it's got to happen first. So I'll tell you about it next week. Maybe. Maybe two weeks. Sometimes when you meet with somebody, if you're meeting with somebody who. Somebody above that person could prevent that meeting. And so if I tell you about the meeting, then the person above can stop the meeting from happening. So I can't tell you ahead of time what's going to happen. I don't want that to happen. I want to talk to, I want to have this meeting. And sometimes after the meeting I can't tell you about it because the person above them would know they talked to me. I can't do that either. Let's just say this like say Mikey McCoy was coming into town Friday. He's not. He's not. But let's say that's what's happening. If I come out and tell you now, hey, I'm meeting with Mikey McCoy Friday, do you think that meeting is going to happen? No, no. If I tell you after the fact, ah, guess who was at my house yesterday. Mikey McCoy. We had a nice sit down. Here's what we talked about. You think that's going to end well for him? No. So sometimes I can't tell you. This one Friday I can tell you about, but it's got to happen first so that the kibosh doesn't come down. That makes sense. Let's see, not buried in sacred ground, no cemetery, no ambulance, no autopsy. Why would anyone be suspicious? There might have been an autopsy. Might have been rushed, but there might have been one. Google says it takes and doing the thing again. All right. Google says it takes two to four hours to embalm a man. Autopsy or trauma can extend the process four to five hours due to extra reconstruction and stitching. I believe that clip of AK in your email with the subject sundress supremacy. Super chat. Okie doogie. I'll check that out after the show. See my pre show super chat. It was second in line. I'll have to read it afterwards. Anything sent I'll say this. Anything sent before the show start is bound to get kicked by the system. And so I know people like to get in early and leave super chats. I do read them. I read everything after the show that I missed. I don't try to miss any during the show if I can avoid it. Sometimes I do by mistake and if at the end I have to start skipping around for time, then sometimes I have miss those. I go back and read them all. And I do notice usually there's one or two at the beginning that made it in before I started reading. But I can't go back now because it's something in the back end of Google and I can't do it while we're on the air. I Mean I can but it's a huge pain in the butt. But I will go back and read it. There's a good chance there do you could have repeated it edge and who said it if Frank Turk said it, being uninformed about the goal, he may have seen something he shouldn't have. Oh, I see what you're saying. Who said it may be more important than what was said. Get that off there. Maybe that equals Frank Turek as he starts yanking and banking. Oh, maybe. I believe the body in the casket was not ck. Why show that much but not his face? Services for a 42 year old man were at the funeral home on 912. Maybe his family would recognize the suitor tie. Well they wouldn't recognize the suit or tie because I know where the pseudotype came from. But I mean I suspect where it came from. That's interesting. I wonder if he had damaged hands because that. That casket that. That picture she showed the hands were damaged psa RBP can be driving hazard was so attuned to your opening statement. Didn't notice the speed limit. When cops stopped me, I pulled a Baron. Not typical Baron we all think of. Put my hands ten and two and said guilty. It worked enough with no ticket, just verbal warning. I'm telling you guys, there's something to it. Now you can't all go doing it because all the cops will pick up on it. But if a few of you do it here and there, it'll work out for you. It worked out for me. That's awesome. Thank you for that follow up Candy Land. Brian Harpo dropped his phone, went on top of Charlie SUV didn't retrieve it. He phoned 911. 911. We don't know whose phone it was. I don't know whose phone it was. God bless you. Not go be yourself. Well, either one works for me. We love watching you. Intelligence and laughter all wrapped in one show. Oh thank you. Very kind of you. Very kind of you. Thomas Crooks autocorrect was cremated quickly. That is the rumor. That is the rumor. My B. I feel like you would like Lauren the mortician. She answers all morbid and strange questions about deaths. Also commented on CK in the beginning. Also gby. God bless you. Christ is king indeed. Thank you. Thank you. My hospital. All deaths are bag and tag with rtls chip real time locate system. A special tag that tracks location of bodies in real time. Like an air tag. Server records each detected location and timestamp. Defense should request. I hope they do. The media should request. I Don't know what would be inappropriate about location data. I've always identified medical gauze tape of some brand. That's my call too. I don't see a battery. Okay, I believe you for super chat. Let's hear it. Lmo Limo been here since the very beginning. So grateful we have each other when the world tells us we are crazy Happy to have each other. I'm happy to have you too, Limo, if that is your real name. Thank you for that. Sweet bee. 45 days sober for hubby. Oh man, that makes me so happy. Not sure why I'm bothered by Megyn Kelly blatant disregard for wanting truth for ck. Your high iq. Can you give a good reason why Megyn Kelly use all keywords as evil Media crisis king indeed. I, I, I, I answered it on redacted I think. I can't remember what interview. I remember somebody asking me this. I can think of two reasons why she would be kind of a fed slopper on this. Number one is she doesn't pay much attention like she does. She covers a lot of news like she doesn't just do Charlie Kirk. She doesn't just do true crime. She doesn't just do politics. She covers a lot. So it could be that, that she just doesn't covered a lot, doesn't pay close attention and when it comes to the facts, she just sort of hears the headlines and sort of believes what the headlines say. So that's option A, option B, it's a little more of a dishonest option. And I'm not attributing this to her, but I'm just giving it as an option. Megan's been through a lot. Megan's been threatened. She's been called names. She's been, you know, pushed to the side. They make fun of her. She's out here trying to make a living like everyone else. And I would hate for this to be true, but it's possible. Not suggesting it's true, but it's possible that some people might tailor their coverage of this case in order to stay in the good graces of the people that kind of make the conservative world go round. Obviously your humble host has chosen not to participate in that. Candace obviously is not as well. Ian Carroll obviously is not as well and many, many others. I don't want to sit here and name people. I'll forgive people, but there have been a lot of people who, who have chosen a, a path of just. Hey, I'm going to tell you how I see it and we'll see what Happens. And if you kick me out of the conservative cause, so what? That's kind of my thought on her. One of those two. That city in Wisconsin. All right, I'll try it. Mut. Mukwonago. Mukwonago. All right, I'll allow it. Sir King. Sir. Autopsies are fascinating. As long as they're fresh. Oh, I'm not going to answer that. Best empirical evidence. The LGBT community is religious. Wait, I read that already. Did that one. I. I get it. I mean, I understand what you're saying. My b. Yes, Shy. Bye Shy. I retract my first super chat. I finally caught up. I'm always going to support you. Oh, Much love and many blessings to you and your family. Much love and many blessings to you, Dear shy. Much love and many blessings to you. Today's opening was just sadness personified. How are we supposed to be humane? How are. How we as a supposed humane society can do this to others is abominable. How can we justify it? It is the savagery that Western enemies are accused of. Yeah. You know what's funny? This is not a joke. I was listening to a preacher. Preacher. And he was talking about the war overseas in Iran. And in one breath, he said, we have to go defeat Iran or Jesus won't come back. And I've heard that before. I've heard people say that. He says, if we don't go defeat Iran and we don't make Israel safe, Jesus isn't going to come back. I've heard that before. No, no. I think it's bad theology, but I'll grant it. I'll allow you. What else are you going to tell me? And like, nine minutes later, or not nine minutes. I didn't watch it for nine minutes. Like, three minutes later, he said, you know, those people in Iran, they're. They're a death cult. They believe by fighting this war against the Jews, their imam's going to come back. And we can't have that. That's not rational, bruh. Hit rewind. Go back like, three and a half minutes, you're making the same argument. I couldn't believe he said it. He said it with a straight face, too. With music in the background. Hot darn Baron, both you and Candace were on fire tonight. Love you for all you are. My b. May I say, you are irreplaceable. You're such a blessing and a gift to this investigation. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate. It's very kind. Very kind. Thank you. My husband, I look forward to sitting together, watching nightly. Was wondering if you could enable closed captioning on your videos. Hearing loss makes it hard to keep up without them. Thanks. That's a YouTube thing. I enable it, I have it. But the YouTube closed captioning only sends out the closed captioning after the video processes and that takes several hours. So if you come back tomorrow and watch it, there'll be closed captioning. Not always the most accurate, but it exists. The alternative would be to me to pay someone to close caption it live. And if you price that out, you'll realize it's not affordable. It's extremely expensive, like four figures per show. And I just can't do that. You know, it's just. It's. It's. It's. It's costly. It's costly and it's pain in the butt and I get, you know, has its own problems. So I, I'm kind of in a. Between a rock and a hard place on that. I will say this. I wear hearing aids. I don't have them in the room with me. They're in my bedroom. But. And I, I get it. Like I. I have trouble watching movies and television. I. I understand it. That's just the reality where we are. Have any of the Maroon boys come forward? Not that I've heard of. Not that I've heard of. Ek doesn't believe in coincidences. But why so many? I don't know. Tina Maples? You tell me. None of the laws and rules apply. It was all controlled from the deep state. Game over. Oh, we got Jewel things going on. I am wondering if Erica had Charlie buried as a Jew. Would definitely explain the rushed timeline since they have to be buried within 24 hours. No, I don't think so because he was very much not buried by September 19th or 20th, whatever date they had the service at the funeral home there. I'm pretty sure that they represented that a body was present. Now whether or not they that's true, I don't know. There's a good question. Son in law is a mortician. What questions do you need answered? I can't think of any. I need answer. Autopsy of Jane Doe is a great scary movie. Better than Nefarious. Oh, Nefarious was good. Highly recommend anyone who likes scary movies. I don't like scary movies. Also, did Baron mention the burn pick on CK's body? Post on X. I'm late to chat. You mean tonight? No, I didn't mention it tonight. But I did a show on it a while back. Charlie's alive. I'm completely convinced I am not. I am not convinced. Every 20 years, plus or minus since 1940, there's been a never forget where you were moment. Pearl Harbor, JFK, Lenin, 911, Charlie. Why does each seem like a conspiracy? Christ is king. God bless you and Daisy. God bless you. Hey, here's why. Because they are. I believe every one of those is a conspiracy. All of them. Even Lenin. Look into that one. That's even weirder than some of the others. That's why it seems that way. My wife got really angry not too long ago and she was like, look, everything's fake. Everything we've ever been told is a lie. I'm like, yes, you're coming around. Come on, water's warm, swim around. Feeling really sad for Charlie. I never felt it to this extreme. Loving wife, friend would never dismiss finding out everything not human. I am concerned by the lack of curiosity from his team. Do they involve someone scheduled for cremation? I don't know. I don't know. I think the reason they did this publicly was to give everyone at TPSA an alibi. Maybe. I work in organ donation. Giving how CK died, not a donor. You need to be brain dead or patient would to be removed from life support. Given the timeline, there's no way he has a tissue donor either. Or he was a tissue donor either. That was my gut. But thanks for confirming that or clarifying. They're on vacation. I would say in my opinion, allegedly, it's more likely they're going to meet with being to get more money at the White House. Allegedly. Allegedly. I also keep it. Also keep it up. Oh, I always keep it up. I kid, sometimes I don't. But now we're always researching, always moving, always shaking, always trying, always going. Some hospitals have autopsy rooms. Maybe the medical examiner went there to do it there and the motorcade was just a distraction. So it looked like he already left and people didn't wait around for from. Well, that's interesting. I hadn't even considered such a possibility. Is that legal in Utah? Is that how they do it in Utah? I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. That's a good one. Biggest fan from Fort Wayne, Indiana, home of the mad ants. First time super chatter. Former legal nurse, consultant nurse, paral, now fnp. A lot going on there. At autopsy, body fluids are obtained such as vitreous humor and others. Analysis takes at least a couple. All right, I believe you. I believe you. God bless you for using your given talents to stand for truth. Became a member tonight, but I've been in this high IQ jury box the whole time. Well, welcome in, welcome in. Welcome in America USA is now an active domain. No, surely not. You're telling a tale. If you remember, Nestor said the autopsy was withheld because of personal health conditions documented. I don't recall that. I don't recall that. I have to go back and look at that. Did live360 call 911 for Charlie set off by the mic explosion or the fall? Was his phone in his pocket? The fall could have called 911, right? I didn't think about that. Some sort of concussive incident would have. Could have. Let me look at that. Real what can cause. What do we. What do we think he an iPhone guy, right? Not a Samsung guy. What could cause an iPhone to call 911 automatically? Crash detection, emergency SOS trigger or accidental physical jolts? Jolts? Oh, you may have just figured something out. What if it was Charlie's phone calling 911 and it was the jolt that triggered it? Do we know if he had his phone? We need to look at those pictures closely of him walking up and getting mic'd up and all that. Did he have his phone in his pocket also for super chat, Just want to say I work with attorneys every day and you're a stellar baron. Thank you and your family for your dedication. Thank you, Crystal. Russell. I don't know about stellar, but I try my best. I'm trying my best. Look at how Utah is handling reckless Ben case. Yes, yes, yes, yes. There was a retired firefighter in Candace's comments who said the Carhartt shirt could be a flame retardant type they use in the firehouse. Makes sense with burnt fabric. Try one out. If they make a flame retardant or fire retardant T shirt, that would be a pretty wild selection of T shirt to put freedom on. For that occasion I literally bought the domain America USA and made a spoof website. Oh, while this episode was on, you heard something that's wild. That's why. Good work. Stu is on X at 8 Eastern. He asked for the entire country to be in deeper for Candace because he has found out things last 24 hours regarding Doge that Charlie requested. Had to know where came in. Oh, oh, was she in danger? Is that what he's suggesting? No autopsy. How did they retrieve bullet fragments? Well, they might have done an autopsy. I'm just, I'm just. I'm suggesting. Let me just be clear here. I'm suggesting they probably did a half hearted attempt at an autopsy. And it was. It was based on the fact that they originally intended not to do an autopsy and then kind of felt compelled to do an autopsy at a certain point. That's kind of my current line of thinking. I think that original, original initial police radio call that there wasn't going to be an autopsy was accurate. And then as the news kind of got away from them, I think they thought, okay, we probably need to do an autopsy here. That's. That's the way I look at it. Guys, I want to appreciate you joining me again. If you're going to be here tomorrow, it will be a member show. I don't know what time yet. We usually try to do them earlier. So I would anticipate it would be 1 ish, 12 ish, 1 ish, 2 ish, somewhere in there. But I don't know for sure whether we come back at night and do a full membership, a full regular show. I think determine is going to be determined by how the day progresses, what kind of news breaks. It sounds like it's going to be a newsy week on the Candace podcast. And it may be that we need to come out and do a show, just sort of a reaction show to whatever she comes up with. So we'll see how tomorrow goes. But right now, I know we will do a member show because I know I cannot be on the air Friday. Well, I could, but it would be late and it would be, I'm not gonna do a show Friday. I'm not gonna do that. So we'll do a member show tomorrow, and then Wednesday and Thursday we'll be back for our regular shows. I hope everyone has a wonderful night. Listen, listen. Jesus loves you. I know you might get numb to that. You guys might be one of those people who say, we hear it every night. We know what you're gonna say, but it's. You still need to hear it. You hear it from your kids, too, but you need to hear it. You say it to your kids, but they need to hear it. And you need to hear it. Jesus loves you guys. Have a wonderful night. I will see you tomorrow. Bye, guys.