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Why are there always 2000? No, it's 20, 23,000 people. See, even he knows. Why is There only ever 20 to 30, 000 people on live stream? See, this is what we're Always curious about why is, you know, why is YouTube and whatnot giving the same number? Yes. Now, coming back to the 2018, 2019 season. I followed Scott Daly on Twitter at the time, during that particular period, that particular year, and he changed my thinking significantly. But the first, let's say, experience I had of Scott was in on the. On the matter of Donald Trump was in 2017. I was. I was in my CIA phase, which stands for cringe Internet Atheist. And in that state, I was a real follower of Sam Harris's podcast called Waking Up. And he had a debate with Scott Adams back in 2017. It was. I don't remember exactly what year it was or what month rather. And in that show, I was expecting, oh, I like the Dilbert guy. I always liked seeing his comics and other Darryl Dilbert paraphernalia at Office Depot when I was a kid. You go there, you see the cute, funky little screensavers. You see the cow computers, right? Number gateway, all the calculators everywhere. And then there was Dilbert, right? All the Dilbert stuff. So that was the passing of time of parents trying to make copies of everything. So 2017, I'm. I'm a little worried that the Dilbert guy's gonna get embarrassed by my guy, you know, Sam Harris. And Scott comes off completely reasonable and normal and rational and even kind to Sam, who sort of, as we might say in the Midwest United States, Sam Harris kind of had a cow during that debate. And I, like, my guy, lost. I wasn't expecting this. That was 2017. That was the pre suasion. Then follow Scott for a year. Reed, Winn Bigley, the first edition. And then Scott says, hey, if you were, let's say, deprogrammed from tds, from Raymond syndrome, and you also were at one point a liberal, I'd like to have you on my show. And I thought, that's literally me, because at that point, I had learned that so much of what was believed about Donald Trump was not something not correct. And one of those moments that I had was I was with what I like to call an NPR American. Don't forget the hyphen npr. Americans are people who, they consume news, like npr, like the New York Times, and they believe it's real news. And so I had seen it on a particular day, shortly before this Scott Adams offer. I had seen a Donald Trump tweet that I thought was pretty funny, which was a new thing for me, being okay with liking a tweet from The President. Number 45 at that time. And I was with an NPR American. And we were listening to npr. And the NPR broadcaster reads the first half of the tweet, stops, does not read the rest, which provides an essential context. And then they have on all these commentators and experts who come on, talk about how this is a decency free presidency. And I thought, oh, wow, didn't that mean are we the baddies? That I was having that sort of that experience. And I showed it to the NPR American friend at the time, and you know what this individual said? Or as Scott would say, and in duh vigil, this person said, showing them the tweet on my phone. Oh, that's a Photoshop screenshot. It was live, live on Twitter. Oh, that's a Photoshop screenshot. That couldn't be real. NPR wouldn't do that. And then just glitched into cognitive dissonance. And then I began to realize that's what happened to Sam Harris. And I awakened to the reality that I had termed derangement syndrome myself. And now, thanks to Scott Heims, I had been cured. And so, long story short, I replied to Scott's post in 2019, went on and shared, gave the interview with him there. At the very end, he asked, where can people find you? And I said, oh, I'm Oshual Isik and I'm a nonfiction book ghostwriter. I said, oh, okay, that's pretty cool. And I think that day, maybe the next day, I got onto his interface by WinHub app, which was you could book experts for a specific period of time, kind of like a micro transaction, micro lesson, live. You could get with people. That's how I met a lot. That's how I met Mike Cernovich for the first time, by the way, as he was on Interface at the time. And I get on and just mention, hey, I have an interface profile. And then I guess Scott did some homework on me and some research over the next 24 hours. And then on his live stream the next day, he mentioned, oh, you know, we had Joshua Lycik on yesterday. So he's this nonfiction book ghostwriter. He does a lot of business and he's really good. You should check him out if you want to write a book, something like that. And I think I got 100 inquiries for a ghostwriter in the next probably week or so. And that provided an initial batch of clients for me. And through that experience, I was able to move my family from a dangerous part of town to a very safe part of a town with a new house, new opportunities, new experiences, get into rental properties and become a real estate investor. So much of my life opened up, have, have more children. So much of my life opportunity opened up because of that relationship with Scott. And it was from the very beginning where he recommended me to his audience. And then the referrals from referrals from referrals as a nonfiction ghostwriter from that one, let's say one minute commercial that Scott gave for me back in 2019. And then the irony of course is after the cancellation in 2023, I get a text message from him, I think the next day. And I'm not going to share exactly what it said because I just don't share those listening 27,000 people watching right now. Don't share your private conversations you had with Scott. That is so tacky. We saw all the conservative influencers doing that with Charlie Kirk. Don't do that. I will call you out if I see that. I will name you and shame you apologize. That said, the gist of the conversation I had with Scott was something to the effect of he remembered what he'd said about me. What was that four years prior? And so that's how we ended up working together on reframe and the second editions of his books, plus the third installment of God's Debris. But I think it was that interview 2019 coming back to you, Mark Schneider, how you and I met for the first time was you'd watch that and I think you messaged me the very next day or maybe that same day. That's how he was introduced to the coffee with Scott Adams community. And I will also admit I haven't shared this story before, but I will also add that there's one other softening up experience I'd had to Donald Trump as the president and kind of the Make America Great Again movement. And it was right around the time I watched the Sam Harris Scott Adams debate and Sam kind of got trounced. And this will be my last anecdote for the morning and I'm gonna hang it up here and bid you all farewell. I was invited by a couple of local clients who were conservative Republicans ghostwriting clients to an event where there was going to be this guest speaker. And so I'd go to this really nice country club and I'm still kind of a self avowed liberal at this point, but feeling a little bit of tail between the legs experience with Sam Harris being just defeated by Scott Adams. The Dilbert guy, like my favorite atheist philosopher gets absolutely trounced and humiliated by a cartoonist. What reality is this? And so there is a guest speaker at this event, this country club for Republicans, the county Republican Party event. And I meet the guest speaker. Turns out he's an author also from Ohio. When we're hanging out there for probably a good couple hours, we're at the same table together. And he speaks and he shares. And I'm thinking, this is not the Republican Party of we gotta go invade Iraq and take out Saddam and get those weapons of mass destruction. Mission accomplished. The rapture's coming at any moment, so we gotta get over there in the Middle East. That's the sort of political religious community I grew up in. And this guy was very different. He sounded almost like a. Almost like a Democrat that I remembered from my youth about the working class. This an American dream and opportunity and affording a house and a car and being able to have kids. This is 2017, and everyone in MAGA, they're all wearing hats. And I'm kind of rolling my eyes at it at this point in time, 2017, and this is not at all the Republican Party. I remember I could get used to these people. I like these people. And so I exchanged some writing tips and whatnot with the Speaker. We get a selfie together. And that was my first in person experience in my adult life where I enjoyed being around Republicans. And I thought, I am on the same team as these people. Not the guy just humiliated by the Dilbert guy. Or as we like, you know, Garfield. Everyone would call him Garfield, right? Scott Adams. So anyway, as many of you have just guessed, the guy I was chatting with for a few hours there, that was J.D. vance as a citizen before he was in politics doing his book tour. And I thought, this is my Republican Party right here.