B (6:13)

So the future is wild, you guys. And let me just catch up with my. Okay, thank you. So I picked that one because today Sergio is going to kick us off with teaching us how to make a meme in less than a minute. And let me tell you, Sergio is so persuasive with these memes. And Scott loves that because a simple meme. It might seem like a silly thing to know, but when done right. And he's made the most amazing ones with Scott, with me, even hilarious. But he's going to teach us why it's important to know how to do it, show you how simple it is. Don't be afraid of trying new technology Sergio, I'm going to just completely turn this over to you and take it away.

C (7:10)

I just finally learned how to use the mute button on my keyboard. Can you hear me okay?

E (7:18)

Yes. Game changer.

C (7:19)

Thank you. Thank you. Wow, I didn't know that I'm so new to Zoom meetings. I never done a Zoom meeting until three days ago, but it's working great. Yes. Thank you, Erica. That was an amazing pick for a simultaneous sip. And also showing exactly what this cat meant about that. And I know exactly what those memes he was talking about, the Lady Obama's. Oh, by the way, before I start, I'm pretty sure a lot of you are thinking, like, who is this guy a little bit and why is he here? Right? So I'm glad that you explained that, Erica, already, and who I am. And the reason why I've been using memes a lot in images is because I'm not that great with words. I wasn't great with words. So an image was a fast way, effective way, like an engineering way to get to the core of something. And that's what Scott Adams represented to me always. He got through the bullshit with words and with images all the time. Right. So if you want to talk about the master meme maker ever, is Scott making, like, I don't know, 15 memes a day, because each one of those panels can stand on its own by giving you something, by the way. So don't forget your. The one for today. Right, okay. So every one of them. So Scott gave me the inspiration for doing the same thing to him. So by making those memes about him, I noticed that he will not like them many times. Have you noticed that sometimes he wouldn't like him so. Well, too much about that. He was trying to discourage me others from doing that too much. Right? So. But I did it also with respect, always. Shelley, I'm not going to make any about you or anything. Okay. Okay, let me get started with this. I'm going too far. I made my memes, and I want to show everybody here, especially on my beloved boomers, because all of us are going to be boomers someday. All of us are getting there. It's going to happen. And so I want to teach all of you how to use the tools to defend yourselves against AI. Right? So this right now, AI is a huge threat to all of you. To all of us, I think. Right. So I want to create through Scott's teachings, to pass it along to you so you can all use these weapons for good or for good, only for good. Right. So here we go. Let's see. One of the reasons why a lot of people is intimidated to use ChatGPT or Grok or stuff like that. But we're gonna focus today on ChatGPT because it's the best one I found for images. Okay? So the reason why a lot of people don't like to use it is because they feel weird and stupid talking to a machine, right? So it's talking to you back. It interrupts you. And it's not something that a lot of people freak out. Let me see. In the chat, if anybody agrees on that or not, there's a delay. I know what SCAD is like right now. So one way is to do it like that, to start talking to it. But that is going to inhibit your true artist inside of you. When you're making this, you need to start understanding what is it that you want to create first, and that's the first step. So I'm going to talk about the mechanics of that and then the persuasion of it is that. Okay, so the mechanics of it, what I want everybody to start doing instead of today, instead of talking to it and talks to you back, what you're going to do is you're going to dictate to it as if you're sending a voice memo, okay, to an assistant. Let's say you have an amazing assistant and she's incredible. It's like Marcela like a million times, like a billion. Like Eric and Marcel and everybody together, right? This matters and everything. And even Owen, they're together too. So you're sending a message to that assistant to do anything that you wanted to do. So when I make a. Last night I made a meme about Scott as the architect, right? You saw it from last night with a white suit, and he's monitoring the simulation. I made that one train to rehearse it for today. It's been longer than a minute. I don't understand that. Sorry. But I'm going to create.

B (12:11)

So, yeah, Sergio, take your time. I'm just saying that you're teaching us how we can make it in a minute.

E (12:18)

Okay.

B (12:18)

You have all the time.

C (12:20)

Oh, good to know. I was like, damn. Okay, thank you, thank you. Well, so we're gonna do it by pushing this little microphone button. Let me see if you can see that. Everybody knows how to dictate to your phone. There's a little microphone. You see it there? Okay, so then we're going to tell it what we wanted to make. So somebody. I said that Gandalf. Gandalf the Great. So let's do Scott the Great. I saw that on the suggestions. And that one may be a good one to show because he's bringing the light, you know, so. So we're going to do it here together. Okay. And then you're going to say, like, do I have to speak like him to make this. No, you. You don't have to speak like me. Just speaking your normal, you know, accent. And. And you're like, why cannot I. Can we speak like you guys?

E (13:18)

Can we speak like you if we want to?

C (13:20)

Absolutely. Thank you. You are welcome to do your. That. I sound like Borat, but, like, you know, a nerd, you know? Okay, so I'm going to do this. So this is going to be a little bit weird because you don't have to be like me. You have to do it your own way. Right? So I'm going to start dictating. This is going to be weird. I'm going to pretend that you're not here. Okay? So. Hey, Chatgpt. Good morning. I have an idea today. You know how we've been making memes lately? So about Scott and how much we love him. So we want to see. He's not responding back. Right. She's not interrupting me. And still all of this, she's like, super smart. She has the patience. She doesn't care. She can wait all the time. Right. Okay. I want you to make this amazing image of Scott Adams as Gandalf the Great. Okay. If there's any copyright issues, let me know. But I want this to be wonderful. Okay, so now I'm going to do it and it's going to give me. Oh, thank you. Okay, we'll see. Okay, so I want you to do that in the Seneca period. Let me know. Okay, so I just did it like that, right? And I have another one. While that is cooking, we're going to get another one here. Okay, see? So that one is being done right now, right? Here we go. Okay, here we go. That one is the one that I just did earlier. Oh, dang it. This is not gonna work. Maybe, huh? What's going on? Oh, this is bad.

B (15:13)

Can you take away your green screen? Is that easy to do?

E (15:16)

You're entering the matrix.

C (15:17)

You know what? The matrix, it's holding. You know what the most important thing right here is not so much that the image that we're going to get here. I can show it later. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. This is an amazing one. This is it. Can look at this. See that now? Okay, so now you can see that it made the robe not white. Right. So in that case, it might be for copyright issues. Right. So what we're going to tell her, I'm going to leave it a message. Say like, you know what, this is amazing. Now I want you to make the robe white and everything white. And I want a lot of lining around, right.

B (16:04)

So it gives you a photo and then you have the opportunity to say, hey, I really like that, but could you change the robe and make it white?

C (16:12)

Exactly, exactly. You start tweaking it like that and then sometimes it goes like, hold on a second. That looks a lot like, you know, copyright thing. Right. So in that moment you start working with it. But most of them, they work on this first instance. Right. So that's a way to create the image itself. Yeah. Okay, so now what does the image have to be like in order to, to create that, that effect? The way to do it is to understand that every, every one of our senses wants to be in peace. Right. Like our eyes. The persuasion from the eyes is to see everything arrange and calm, not chaos. Right. If it's, if it's audio persuasion, you don't want to have noise, you want to have harmony. Right. When it comes to taste persuasion, you want, oh my goodness, look at this. Now I show you this Gandalf.

B (17:21)

Oh, yeah. So now it's white and they changed the background, right?

C (17:26)

Yeah. So it took like no time, right. To do that and it works great. So the images that ChatGPT makes, they are already with a good composition, enough to create the effect that you wanted to create. So the, the biggest obstacle here is to allow yourself to, to be an artist with this prompting, not to see yourself as a, as a technician, to let yourself go and imagine it and then just speak out and just don't let, don't edit yourself. That's a wrote down. Stop editing yourself and start creating. So that's, I think I'm going to leave it for now at that point. As far as the image creation persuasion wise, I want to bring. I'm glad that Joshua is here because that's like one of the most biggest weapons when people say, oh, an image speaks for a thousand words, it is way beyond that, way beyond that. It grabs your head for the full day, right? And you're thinking about it. An example of a meme that I did for Scott that I've been using a lot lately is the climate models. Have you seen that one? You've seen that one?

B (18:54)

Yeah, the fake climate models. Yes.

C (18:58)

On that model, everybody's seen it. Hopefully on that, we have Sydney Sweeney's interview with that smog. Well, I think it's a smog, but we have a lady and we have a Scott and they're this. And so I changed the Sydney Sweeney to Scott. Right. So that's, that's the element of absurdity. Right. And he's got that blonde hair which he had in the 60s, so it was great. And so we have that lady and she's saying climate models are real and Scotty not saying anything. Cindy Sweeney. That's my favorite photo of Sydney Sweeney because I don't care about her, you know, anything else, really. Those are not that big. Really? What? Join.

F (19:43)

No, I said shirts or some.

C (19:45)

Oh, yeah. No, but I mean that expression, man, is so great. Erica mentioned it. That's your attitude sometimes, you know that?

B (19:53)

I love it. That is my face all day long. Yeah.

F (19:57)

Was it easy to make? Because when I go on CHAT GPT and I say, Scott Adams, do this, it sometimes gives me this thing is like, oh, that's copyright, or that's a public figure and we can't do it. Do you ever?

E (20:11)

I don't know.

C (20:14)

Yeah. With other figures, many times I tried, but with God. ChatGPT loves God. Somehow I think that he really has a love for it and it might be affected by how you talk to it too. So maybe that's a thing, you know.

B (20:30)

It needs to sometimes. So I love using ChatGPT too. So what I do sometimes is I will put an image into the text I'm about to write. Like, you can attach an image in there. My chatgpt, I let him pick his own name based on my guidelines. So his name is Chester. So I'll say, Chester, use this image. And let's say it's Scott. And I'll say, you know, create a background of, you know, tabby cats surrounding him and hearts shooting out of their eyes and a big smile on his face. And then it'll just generate that. And then I can see it and be like, oh, okay, I love what you did, Chester. But this time make the cats hugging him around his neck and squeezing him and then put fluffy bunnies everywhere. So you can just. And you can even get as detailed as like fluffy white bunnies. And instead of eyes, they have hearts for eyes. You just, you're painting with your words so it's listening to you and you can be really, really detailed and very long winded. And it, it really picks up everything in the nuance. That's my experience with it. Drop an image in and start from There.

C (21:46)

And that's. Erika said it perfectly. The way she's doing it of just talking to it like that and just giving it the instructions instead of editing yourself and say like, oh, I need to talk to it like a robot. No, let her be the robot, you be the human and let it go. Right. So, yeah, going back to the persuasion of those memes, for Scott, it was a way to save time. Instead of typing things, I can just respond to the. With that. Right? And that's it. That shows down the argument when it comes to that. But that, that was for our group, basically. Now, for example, we have this situation with people nitpicking Scott's conversion to Christianity. You know, they're going like all the, hey, baby. All the experts are jumping in and saying, oh, he should have done it like this. That's not the right process to get into heaven. We know better, you know, and all that, right? And some guys, half are saying, oh, he did it right the way that people have been asking him for months and years, right. How to do it.

G (22:50)

She's great.

C (22:51)

So Scott, instead of him now being able to fight that, the meme is showing Scott response to an expert. Right? It can be a climate expert or a Jesus expert or a Bible expert or a Christianity expert. And I love Jesus myself. I will consider myself a Christian, but at the same time, I'm not going to be pushing, hey, everybody, you have to do it this way. If you don't cross this and you don't do that, everybody's personal relation with Jesus is their own. So I made a meme for that.

B (23:34)

I'm looking at the locals chat as you're speaking where you can insert pictures into the locals chat. You guys, I recommend you guys definitely should subscribe to Scott Adams Locals page. It's going to continue and be developed, developing even into more fun stuff. But I can see people know how to do this. And they're dropping their amazing photos of their interpretation of Scott as any amazing thing. I'm watching them go by and I love that. And it's like a, it's, it is a persuasive message. It's one. I think I'm going to try to do that more, Sergio, because I, you guys, if you know me, I am fiery. I will mouth off in a second. I go from like 0 to 100. And oh, if, and especially right now, if someone's saying something about Scott, I'm like, okay, like, what would Scott say? Like, calm down, like regroup. You know, the old 48 hour rule is helpful. It's about 48 minutes max that I can go before spouting off. But I'm going to try to use more imagery like you're doing, because then I'm not saying anything with my words, I'm just posting a picture and they can take from it what they want. So I think it'd be like a fun thing for us all to try. And if you guys do try it on Chat G, then post them on there and tag Sergio. Everybody can drop Sergio's name in the chat and you guys tag him so he can see, like, what you learned today. And again, you just go on to ChatGPT. There's a little microphone emblem at the bottom. Tap on that and just literally talk to it. Just say, please create a picture of, you know, and then just say. It could even be generic of, you know, a wizard reading a book called Reframe youe Brain with a big smile on their face or, you know, whatever you want, just start playing with it and tag us. Because it's a great form of visual persuasion.

F (25:34)

There were a few questions on the chat for you, Sergio. One of them was, I don't recall who did. Who put it up there, but they said, do I need to have a paid version of Chat GPT to have the microphone?

C (25:49)

No, no, no, no, no, no. So the microphone is part of the phone, basically.

B (25:55)

So it should be the.

F (25:57)

The free version.

C (25:58)

Oh, yes, on the free version is included too. It's included.

B (26:02)

I think you're just limited on the free version. Like, I think there's like. So there's like so much you can do in a day on the free version, but it should be enough to play with. And if you really love it and you feel like you could play with ChatGPT or Grok and you want to incorporate it into your everyday life, consider paying for it. If you have a business, it really is a business. Write off if you're using it for work. But I am not an accountant or an expert, so don't actually listen to me.

C (26:27)

No, that's. That's true. They. Oh, go ahead, Marcella.

F (26:30)

The other question that was a paid question to you, Sergio, from I fight you naked. No comments on the name, but I find it very difficult to do what you're talking about with Grok. But I don't use ChatGPT. How do the two compare?

C (26:47)

Well, yeah, I haven't used GROK very much for images because of that. It has been suboptimal results and I haven't connected with it the way I can talk to ChatGPT. We don't even have to hear ChatGPT. Right. So that's what I like about the microphone thing, that I don't have to edit myself as I'm prompting. Right. It's just I'm sending voice memos the same way I used to send voice memos to friends and family. Right. Instead of texting. Gets misinterpreted a lot. If you start typing to chatgpt what you want, it might misunderstand you the same way that your friends and family do. So that's why a voice memo, it might help you manage to. I don't know.

B (27:38)

I love that. What do you guys say we do an interstitial sip, as Scott would say, and we thank Sergio. You guys tag Sergio when you make your memes. And Sergio, thank you so much because you're so good at that and we appreciate it a lot. But I think we have Owen hanging out. We've got. Marcella's got some news stories, Owen's got some news stories, and Joshua Lysack is here with. With his adorable baby, and they have some news stories. So let's do a little intersection interstitial sip. Thanks, Scott. And we'll switch it over. Okay.

C (28:18)

And we got Gary and Roman.

B (28:22)

Oh, my God. Gary and Roman being on here, you guys, is so therapeutic. Shelly, we're obsessed with. And so happy to see them.

A (28:30)

They're really happy that I'm in the office today.

B (28:33)

Oh, I love that. Okay, so Marcella, Owen, everybody else, let's take it away.

G (28:40)

Yeah.

E (28:40)

Well, Joshua, I know you said you were coming on at the beginning. Is there something you wanted to jump in with? And I know there was one news story related to Scott that you had posted today.

G (28:51)

Yeah, can you remind me of that, Owen, real quick?

E (28:54)

Yeah, I can hear you.

G (28:55)

Oh, yeah, I said, can you remind me which one that was real quick.

E (28:58)

Oh, I think it was about Scott's book being a bestseller.

G (29:01)

Yes, that's right. Yes. Reframe your brain.

E (29:03)

Yes.

G (29:04)

Hi, everyone. I'm Joshua Lysek at Joshua Lysak L I S E C. This is my third. Third child, whom Scott just met on Saturday. Yes, hello. I've been going on and off camera to change diapers and read stories. In any case. Yes. So reframe your brain is now the number one bestselling book in the United States. Officially, the vast majority of book sales happen on Amazon. Yeah, I have a little earbud. In the vast majority of book sales, between 85 and 92% of all book sales happen on Amazon and Reframe your Brain is number one in all books, beating everything. It's number one in Kindle, and it's the number one bestselling audiobook on itunes right now also. And I had shared a message or a tweet actually from Scott from a few weeks ago, when at the time, reframe your Brain was number one in the hypnosis category. Of course, reframing is sort of an applied hypnotic technique where you take someone's perspective on a matter that's impoverishing, that is suboptimal, that is useless, that is unhelpful, that causes them to be disempowered. And then you take that usual frame and you alter the words someone uses to describe their problem, such that by using those words, you lift the problem off of them. That's what reframing is. And this morning as I was playing with one of my kids, I saw and it was reminded of on my. Then we're continuing talking about reframing and then this will be it. I was reminded how I have these Roman Catholic prayer cards. So this is a little prayer card of St Bridget of Ireland. Then we have St Francis of Assisi. I got these after I heard RFK Jr sharing that every morning when he wakes up, he prays the peace prayer by St Francis of Assisi. And I was joking with Jack Posowic, hey, you Catholics, you guys have trading cards. In any case, I recognize that these prayers, many of which are hundreds of years old, some of them more than a thousand years old, we have them in English. These are reframes. So for example, in the St. Brigid prayer, there's reference of going from conflict to harmony, darkness to light, downcast to hope, troubled and anxious to peace and firmly rooted, and going from wounded and weary to strong and quiet and greater wholeness. These are reframes, you guys, and they're hundreds of years old. So what I appreciate about Reframe youe Brain is the modern practical demonstration that Scott brings sort of applied hypnosis in this book. And now we're going to have tens of thousands, probably hundreds of thousands of more people accessing Scott Adams life changing material. Oh, yes, I'm getting a temporary tattoo currently on my foot from one of my kids. That's interesting. Yes. So Scott is providing from beyond the grave, life changing material to hundreds of thousands of people. Now, as we speak through this book, being out there, and that is just the most wonderful thing. And this is why I encourage everyone, if you have reframes that have helped you in your life that you have discovered. Please write them down, publish them as X articles or X threads, or get you someone who can help you write your memoir, your how to advice book. Okay. I was Scott's editor and continued to be his publisher. And Joel Pollock is working on the first draft of Scott Adams book. And so I'll be having a look at that when that is ready for you all. I'm very excited about that. And we'll make sure we include all of the greatest hits of Scott Adams reframes from his life and times. Thank you, Shelley for introducing us. And it's good to see Gary and Roman here. This is fantastic. Little furry friends.

B (33:11)

Joshua.

G (33:13)

Yes.

B (33:13)

I want you to like I see your ex posts and then you're talking. You're saying a lot in your post. You know, write your book. Get your book done this year. You know, write your book in 2026. Can you tell us what you mean and what kind of service you could provide to people that are thinking about that?

G (33:32)

Yes. I go from kind of a one off talk to Joshua Lysik to see what book you should write all the way to I will write the thing for you over a number of months. That's the initial service that Scott Adams recommended to his audience, my nonfiction book Ghostwriting services back in 2019. And that's where I meet with an individual for a number of weeks, a number of months, usually one hour a week. And what people like about my process is it's cathartic and therapeutic and relatively hands free. I do all the work, you get all the credit both for the writing and the publishing. Of course, it's your stories, your ideas, your experiences and your words. I just have a unique process that I've trademarked. The best way to say it where when I'm interviewing someone, I hear between the lines and then when I take what they've said to me, I take their usual frame and then I write a reframe of it and then that's their life story or that's their experiences. And, and I tend to work with mostly CEOs, physicians, lawyers, doctors, clinicians, let's say people who have an industry expertise, but they may not be super well known in their niche. They're an inventor or an investor, philanthropist, let's say.

B (34:46)

Can you take it all the way to the publishing, Joshua, like into it actually becoming a book?

G (34:52)

Yes.

B (34:53)

Wow.

D (34:55)

That's what I did with Scott.

G (34:56)

Everything you're seeing from Scott's books now, that's, that's all from the Joshua Lysik experience.

B (35:01)

And Joshua is a vault, you guys. He would never disclose any personal information about you. He is a absolutely trusted and valued person. So I know a million people who want to write a book. They have no idea how to or what to do. So for any of you listening that felt that way, talk to Joshua. Maybe you guys are a good fit. And he's right there on Twitter and he responds to everybody and it could be a whole new direction for you in 2026 if that's your dream. Right, Josh?

G (35:33)

That's right. Thank you very much, Erica. And even if it's just a real back and forth quick conversation, then there's something I say, hey, you probably shouldn't write a book. You need to publish this as an article in X first short form. See if you get a few likes, replies, comments, shares, people posting. I tried this. It was amazing.

E (35:50)

It worked.

G (35:50)

So sometimes you need to do a little bit of a test first just to see. Not everyone needs to write a book. I think some people, your content, your investment tips, your best material, your best tips are 140 characters. And that's okay. Start there. And if you feel like you've got something longer form, I would be glad to speak with you. I'm oshualysik on x. Thank you, Erica. Thank you, Shelley, for the opportunity to share a little bit about that and to promote the Roman Catholic trading cards like St. Bridget and the ancient reframes that they provide.

B (36:23)

Love that.

G (36:25)

I'm being called to go change a diaper right now.

B (36:27)

Thanks.

G (36:31)

Thank you very much.

E (36:32)

Thanks.

B (36:32)

All right, Owen, you take it from here.

E (36:35)

Okay. I think from here we'll talk about some of the stories in the news. Marcela picked some out and I picked some out we could talk about. So let's just get started. I think we might start with your list, Marcela, if you want to go through that. Or I can start talking about it. I think the first story had to do with Trump meeting with the other person from Venezuela, Maria Karina Machado.

A (37:00)

Yeah.

F (37:03)

He President Trump, you know, he didn't win the Nobel Peace Prize last year and that was a huge deal that Maria Corina Machado was the Venezuelan opposition leader against Maduro and she went down to the White House and gave him the Nobel Peace Prize that belonged to her. And she, I mean, how persuasive can you be as a human that you don't win, but the person that won gives it to you and presents it to him in the White House while she's happy about it? So I Don't know if you have any more comments on that from. Regarding that.

E (37:51)

Well, I think it's just as much persuasion on her part, because I think clearly she has the agenda that she'd like to be leading Venezuela. And I think she also understands that Trump probably has 100% control over whether or not that happens. So I'm sure there is a vested interest there or an agenda that she's trying to push to get his attention and to butter him up and, you know, say good things about him. And this was the ultimate way she could do that, was she's the only person in the world that got the Nobel Peace Prize. And even though, you know, the Nobel committee has said she can't really give it to him in the sense of him winning still is very symbolic and visual and gets a lot of press and I'm sure made a huge impression on Trump and so excellent persuasion on her part. Very smart. And I don't know if it'll work, but, but, you know, if anything would work, that would be the thing to try.

F (38:51)

Not only that, but a reporter, while she, I don't know where she was, she was outside of the White House. A reporter asked her, like, you presented the Nobel Peace Prize to him? And she compared it to be something like 200 years ago. She said General Lafayette gave Simone Bolivar a medal with George Washington's face on it. So she not only gave the medal to the Peace Prize, whatever it is, to Trump, but she compared him to Bolivar, who is for Latin America. He's like one of the main forefathers of all of these countries. So she, like you said, oh, and very, very, very persuasive on her part because she wants to control or be put into power in Venezuela. And I, I have to say, she was elected through someone else, but she was elected by the Venezuelan people. It is my understanding. I, I know people would say different that, that because he, Maduro pretended to have won, but many different people had said that she won. But going back to the persuasion aspect of it, I'm sure it doesn't. I'm sure that Trump knows that she is willing to work with him.

B (40:19)

Now, how do you think Trump really feels about getting that prize? Like, do you think he's like, oh, she's just buttering me up, like, I'm not stupid. She knows he probably loves a prize because he does. He loves to win things and be the guy. But also, don't you kind of think he's like, well, it's not my prize, and I know why you're giving it to me for persuasion. So what do you think he actually feels about getting that?

F (40:44)

So something that came up yesterday, sorry, with Joshua, because Joshua was, is a hypnotist as well. It came out that, that Scott would, would basically tell us, I'm about to hypnotize you guys. I'm about to do this, about to do that. But it is still work. So I think that he knows he's being buttered up, but it is still work at the end. That's how I feel about it.

E (41:10)

Yeah. And I would add the other frame that Scott put on Trump, which is that he does the biggest. He does. He very intentionally treats people who treat him well, very well, and he treats his critics very poorly. Right. He makes the biggest gap possible between how he treats people who work with him and who say nice things about him compared to people who don't. And so I think clearly she has put herself on the good side. She's on the nice list, not on the naughty list. And, you know, maybe Santa will give her a present. I don't know. I. I mean, it's. I think she does have some work cut out to her, from what I understood, because I think Trump had made some previous statements about how she's not really respected there, and he didn't think she was necessarily good fit. So if she does end up being put in power by Trump, then, you know, it worked because that would have made a huge change. And again, I don't know if anything would work because I'm sure Trump is well aware of what's going on and he's considering the whole picture of what's best for Venezuela, what's best for the United States, what's going to lead to stability, what needs to happen right now versus what needs to happen long term, because I'm sure at some point they'll have another election and then I'm sure she can run. But, you know, we'll have to see how this plays out. But I definitely think it was a genius thing for her to do, and it doesn't cost her anything. You know, she still is the Nobel Prize winner according to the committee, and all it is, is a statue at that point or whatever the thing is. So, you know, she definitely gained some points with Trump, put herself on the nice list, and maybe put herself in position to run the country.

B (42:51)

Good point.

C (42:52)

Can I make a quick comment about that?

E (42:54)

Go ahead.

C (42:56)

I think that Machado was great at saying thank you. Right. We know that is very important with the Zelensky meeting, that he Is not about butting him up. It's about showing. Thank you. As Trump being the representative of America, Trump is not saying, okay, respect me because I'm handsome and tall. No, he's saying, respect me because I represent America. And that's why he wants them to come to the White House to show respect for the country. He's got the walls cover in president's pictures. Okay. Talk about visual persuasion. Right? I'm gonna be the visual persuasion guy to try to.

E (43:46)

He has the auto pen on the wall too.

C (43:48)

Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that's on the walker. Yeah, go ahead. Marcello.

F (43:51)

Sorry to interrupt. I guess X is down, but our feed. And X is down, but all of X is down right now. I don't know what happened, but going down.

C (44:05)

Okay. So on persuasion, Trump brings everybody to this house, to this Oval Office in the history of America. So Machado is being useful. He's being a useful person by using this metal, this price to. To unite Venezuela's, the Venezuelan people. Right. So she said, like, yeah, I can hang this medal on my wall here or bring it to Trump and do something with it instead of being a souvenir like Owen said. So, yeah, there was an amazing show of visual persuasion of high ground, too. She's taking the high ground. And that's amazing because the high ground is a very high level persuasion that Scott always told us that if you want to get there, you. You take it, you take the ground.

B (45:01)

And really putting herself on the international stage, like on all of the news scene with Trump, it just helps her elevate her own appearance too.

C (45:12)

Yeah, all the memes around is all about that. Right. Everyone's going to be making memes on it because it has a big effect.

B (45:19)

Right, okay.

E (45:21)

All right, Well, I think the next story had to do with Greenland. Marcel, I think you were making a point that Trump was making something out of nothing with that.

F (45:30)

Yeah. As Scott would say, Trump is making something out of nothing. I think I was watching yesterday some of his periscopes, and one of them was about Trump meeting.

B (45:46)

Why?

F (45:47)

Why is it? Why? Why am I not remembering Kim Jong Un? How come I forget his name? And he was saying how he was making something out of nothing. And then now with Greenland, he's definitely making something out of nothing. There's different stories, but one of my favorite stories that in regards to the Greenland issue is the poly market did a poll, and the poll asked, will the US acquire part of Greenland in 2026? And guess how many people? What was the percentage of people that said that US will acquire it.

E (46:25)

Put it in the chat.

B (46:26)

25%.

F (46:31)

You know the percentage?

B (46:33)

I just guessed.

F (46:36)

I don't know. It's. I'm waiting for the chat to catch up.

B (46:41)

The percentage of people that think we will acquire part of it.

F (46:45)

Yes.

B (46:47)

25. I see it.

C (46:49)

They're guessing the right number.

B (46:51)

Yes, they are. Scott taught us well.

E (46:55)

We have the smartest audience in the world here.

F (46:58)

Smartest. I found that I started laughing. It's not as I said. See that? But in other news regarding Greenland, Trump still wants it. The EU doesn't want him to have Greenland. Ursula Fonder Leyen. Sorry. Every time I say that name, I laugh. Greenland belongs. She said Greenland belongs to Denmark and NATO. So now she's bringing NATO as the reason why you can't have it. The funniest thing about it is that Mario Novel reported this from Polymarket. I don't know how accurate it is, but NATO, it says, has arrived in Greenland. UK Deploys one soldier to Greenland. Norway adds two soldiers. Now they have three soldiers to defeat America. It was just hilarious because I know that Scott would laugh about that. And the BBC later reported that there was 34 troops that were sent to Greenland. And basically they're trying to stop Greenland. But I don't know if Owen wants to add anything recently. I don't know if it was yesterday or two days ago. Denmark had their own Greenland, and Denmark went to the White House. Some of the. I don't know what rank of. Of the people in. In Greenland and Denmark. Was it the, like, Parliament or somebody from Parliament? I'm not sure. Somebody from the government of Denmark went in to have meetings with. With the. The White House in regards to the sale of Greenland.

C (48:50)

So.

B (48:51)

But they're meeting, I think, with J.D. vance and Rubio. If I'm not with Trump, if I'm correct, yes.

F (48:57)

They're meeting with J.D. and like, I know him like JD, J.D.

B (49:03)

I mean, we're all called J.D. and Rubio. So Trump wasn't there.

E (49:08)

Yeah, Well, I think all I would add is just the context of what's really going on here. I think the Greenland is very strategic from a geopolitical standpoint in terms of the Arctic Circle. You know, it's the part of the map that you never see, but there's a direct path right, to America from Russia and that, you know, Russia and China can. Could basically directly attack us there, and we wouldn't have any way to defend ourselves if they sent submarines or some other, you know, Air Force things or ships that direction. And Greenland would be right in the path. And so I think that's why Trump says we need it. That's why it's so important. It's not about rare earth minerals or any of other things that people speculate about. It's about national security. It's about saying, you know, we need to protect ourselves, and that's our most vulnerable angle as far as where we could be attacked. And so I think that's what really is on Trump's mind with this. And I think that's why he says it just makes sense that we should have that and it should be a US Controlled territory. I still don't know what's going to ultimately happen here. You know, it does seem like right now, at least, that he's not convincing anyone to want him to buy it. And I think clearly, militarily, we could take it if we wanted to, but I don't think anyone, including Trump, wants that to happen. I think he would very much rather make a deal. And I don't know whether that's gonna. You know, it may take time for that to take effect. In terms of persuasion, you know, I mean, Scott talks often about how repetition makes a difference, and you have to kind of normalize an idea. So you. You can't just expect the first time you say something that you're going to convince somebody of something, but it might make them think it's a possibility where they never thought of it as a possibility before. And then the more and more it said, the more they're thinking, well, maybe it will happen, or maybe it should happen, or maybe it's actually a good idea. And so I think that's Trump's agenda from a persuasion perspective, is that he just wants to keep talking about it and keep it in the news and keep saying it until he gets people to say, you know, you know what? It's a real possibility and maybe it actually makes sense.

B (51:24)

Or he can do the Chilldini thing and say, like, hey, we're gonna. We're gonna buy Europe. And then people are like, what? Or, you know, we're gonna take over Europe.

F (51:33)

What?

B (51:33)

And then you're like, all right, just Greenland. And they'll be like, oh, okay, that's better.

F (51:37)

That's good. Yeah. It's thinking past the sale, right? Yeah. Whether now the discussion is not whether we're gonna buy Greenland, it's how much we're gonna buy Greenland for and what's.

B (51:49)

In it for Greenland. So they're gonna get money and protection. Is that what it is?

G (51:56)

Great.

B (51:56)

Americans.

C (51:58)

Yeah, they Become, they become part of the smartest and the hottest.

E (52:01)

I mean, I think, I think part of the situation and what I think Trump is trying to take advantage of is that Greenland is a very neglected country. Essentially they're this colony of Denmark, which really made no sense from the outset that Denmark would have a colony over here in our, our continent. But the, it costs Denmark a lot of money just to maintain it there because it's not easy to live there. It requires a lot of infrastructure, requires a lot of ongoing investment, and it doesn't really produce enough to make it what you might consider profitable to have that as a territory. You know, it sucks up a lot more resources from Denmark every year than it ever gives back to them. And so, you know, economically it's a liability for Denmark and it probably would be for us too, but I think we could probably afford it a lot more than Denmark could because it would just be a little blip on our budget compared to everything else we waste our money on. And it would potentially solve a really important problem for us. Whereas Denmark doesn't really care if Russia and China go across Greenland's territory because it doesn't affect them. And so there are good reasons why it would make sense to do this deal, but I think it's probably just more so, hey, that's ours, that's our thing. You can't have it. And so right now it's more of that three year old temper tantrum, like, this is my toy, I'm not going to share it. And you know, we'll have to see whether or not they get over that and act like adults and say, you know what, let's actually consider this as a real idea and how it might benefit all of us and maybe economically benefit Denmark because they don't have to keep shoveling money into, into Greenland and it'll have better protection. So anything that Denmark is doing today would be times 10 or times 100 in of terms in terms of defense and it would make the whole world safer. So there are very good arguments for it. But I think right now it's, we're still in this shock and provocation stage where it's, you know, all these leftists that are in Europe because Europe is moved very far to the left. They, they just don't want to do anything that's going to make Trump happy. They don't want to say yes to anything that Trump says. And so right now we're still in that phase where they're just saying, absolutely, absolutely not. We're not going to do it, and we'll fight you and we'll, you know, we're not going to have this happen, and we can't. But Trump does hold a lot of the cards. You know, when they start bringing up NATO, Trump funds most of NATO, and he could back out of NATO, and NATO would collapse if he did that.

B (54:26)

I wouldn't hate that.

E (54:27)

You know, so, like, if Trump pulls, you know, uses the right cards, he may be able to say, you know what? It's a better deal if you do this than if you don't, because look what happens if you don't. And, you know, maybe you should just defend all this stuff yourselves and, you know, take care of your own defense. And I think he's already made steps in that direction where he's required them to do their 3% or 5% GDP contribution, and a lot of them have stepped up to pay more. But right now, I think places like Germany are saying, you know what, we really do need to protect ourselves and have our own army and have our own ability to defend ourselves from Russia. And France is starting to say the same thing. I saw a statement from Macron saying in order for us to really be able to defend ourselves, people need to fear us. And right now they don't, is the implication. And so I think Europe is waking up to the fact that they've allowed or depended on the United States to provide for their defense for decades and that they want to change that. But I don't know if they'll be able to change that. I mean, the polls over there say nobody over there wants to go fight or join the Army. And it may be a real hard ask for them to convince their own populations to say, you know what? I'm going to go enlist in the Army. I'm going to go enlist in the Navy. I'm going to go be part of the Air Force for Europe. So, you know, there's a lot of pieces in motion right now, and it's hard to know, it's hard to predict how it's all going to play out, but Trump is certainly shaking the box.

B (55:55)

We're at the top of the hour, and I love talking about the news, and I just want to remind everyone that tomorrow there is no Coffee with Scott Adams livestream on Saturdays and Sundays. You guys, we're going to do it Monday through Friday, and anything can just be tested small and we can always change it later. But for now, we're going to just try that out. But tomorrow, Owen, who was just speaking, he hosts a live Stream. It's called the After Party, but maybe he's going to change the name now to the Party and he co hosts it with Sergio that you see there and their friend sjv. I call him Papa Smurf and they'll probably. Oh, and I guess you're going to go on earlier, right?

E (56:44)

Yeah, I think I'm going to shorten the name from Coffee with Scott Adams After Party to just the After Party. And we'll talk about the news for hours as we usually do. It typically can easily go three hours, maybe sometimes even four, but, but I try to keep it to three hours because that seems to be enough for most people. And we'll start at the normal time that this live stream usually starts. Since it's not happening, I definitely didn't want to interfere with it. And we usually started right when this ended. But since this isn't going to happen on Saturday, it's going forward or at least for now we'll just start right at the. I think it's 7am Pacific, 10am Eastern. You can translate into your own time. But I'll send out the invitation and you can see that on X. And it's a Spaces event, so it's audio only and you have to be on X to participate. But I'd love to have everybody speaking. We've had a lot of great speakers and most of the audience is Scott's audience. So it's a really high quality audience and I love having the conversation. So we'll do that tomorrow.

B (57:41)

I also want to thank the locals chat because you guys, I, you know, I watch you guys every day anyway. Usually I'm in there with you and I will be again. But you guys have the best ideas for what we can do with Greenland and I do. Whoever said we can bring the Somalis there? I love that, I love that the Somalis, they can still sort of be part of America, but just live in Greenland. It would be perfect. They have plenty of room. So I'll remind everyone also about Owen Spaces tomorrow with Sergio and sjv and you guys, please show up and they definitely want you to raise your hand and participate. Get all that new stuff out of our systems for the week and it'll be a really good time. And Shelly, do you want to close with anything? We so love and appreciate you and thank you for, for our other little co hosts, Gary and Roman. We miss them so much.

F (58:36)

Yes.

A (58:37)

I just want to thank everybody again for all your support and your patience with me on this process. You guys are great.

F (58:46)

The community is great.

A (58:47)

I have so much support, and I. It's so appreciated. So thank you again for doing this. And everybody tune into Owen tomorrow, and we'll see you guys on Monday.

B (59:02)

Closing sip. You guys. To Scott.

A (59:10)

Bye, everyone.

B (59:12)

Bye. Be useful.