Host (1:28)

We have a guest today. We'll tell you who that is. This is just fun, you guys. So listen, you know, we're going to do the sip, and then we're going to make proper introductions. Shelly can see us, she can't hear us, but if she talks, we can hear her. Okay? So, you guys, I have no idea what's going on. Let's get this sip. We'll do a little minute to compose ourselves, and then we'll regroup and exhale. Okay, take it away, Scott, and let's go.

Scott Adams (2:04)

Why does my lighting look wrong today?

Host (2:11)

Bj Mute.

Scott Adams (2:12)

Hey, everybody. Come on in. Is there anything to talk about today? Did anything happen last night that's worth discussing? Oh, I think so. Oh, yes. But first, before we get to the discussing part, wouldn't you like to get ready for that with a simultaneous sip? I think you would. And all you need is a Capra mugger, glass of tanker tails or stein, A canteen jargon flask. A vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee. And join me now for the dopamine hit of the day. The thing that makes everything better. The unparalleled pleasure. It's called the simultaneous sip, and it happens. Now go. Well, of course we'll be talking about the debates, but a couple of little tidbits before that, number one, we all heard the story the last 24 hours or so about National Intelligence Director John Ratcliffe. He declassified some information that indicated that Russia was aware that Hillary Clinton was trying to implicate Russia and some kind of culture collusion with Trump as part of a plan to take attention away from her email. Now, as of this morning, Politico is reporting that it's fake news, that that's not actually something that happened. Now, I believe that's not the final word, rather that the, the intelligence agencies look like maybe they have some evidence of this. But we shall see. I remind you of the following 8020 rule. Are you ready? Here's the 8020 rule of the month before election Day. It goes like this. Any new story that happens in the month before election, if it's a new thing you haven't heard of before, a new twist on a thing would be the same thing. There's an 80% chance it's not true. Doesn't matter which side it comes from, doesn't matter what the topic is. If it looks like it's good for anybody and bad for somebody else in terms of the election, you should figure just automatically there's an 80% chance it's not true. So we'll see if that one's true. I have to admit, it had the sound of not being true. You know, if you had to place a bet on it, you said, okay, you're no expert, but I want you to place a bet on this thing. And the thing is that Putin actually had a conversation, or the intelligence people did over in Russia about Hillary Clinton trying to distract with a Russia collusion hoax. What, what do I tell you about stories like that? Are they a little bit, a little bit too on the nose? You know what I'm talking about? A little bit too perfect timing. Timing of the story is a little bit too good. It might be true, but I would put a 20% chance on it if you want to know the odds.

Host (5:41)

Okay. I thought that was a good reminder and you're going to ask me and I'm going to tell you that that is YouTube number 1140. Okay, 1140. And if you want to finish watching that, it's a great episode.

Shelly (5:57)

Of course.

Host (5:59)

So. Hi, you guys. We are fresh off of Scott's amazing memorial service where we were lucky to attend. And honestly, Shelly wished everybody could attend. But Scott wanting it live streamed was just an amazing gift and seeing how many views it had, he really wanted everybody to feel included. And I think we all did. And it was intimate and beautiful. And we're going to talk about it on Friday because we do have guests this week. Okay, Stella, we do have guests this week, and Friday we want to spend more time answering questions and just talking to you guys about it. But let's all say a little something about it. I'll introduce Marcella, our beautiful Marcella. If you want to just say a couple of words, and we'll save it mostly for Friday.

Shelly (6:58)

It was an honor to be there, representing the beloveds there. And I just. All the speakers were wonderful. Shelly was amazing. And I just. I don't know why I hear all this audio, but right now, I just loved being there. It was difficult to go to the house, see, you know, the golf, the mini golf, the tennis court, the. The office, the little museum that he created, because it, you know, it felt like we were home. Like, all of us felt like. I think Erica mentioned, like, oh, I know every single. Almost every single inch of this house. And I think all of you would have felt the same way. We were home. We were with family. And it felt so intimate and so fun to see people that we have known each other for years, almost a decade, and, well, about a decade. And it was just, you know, we think that this is what Scott would have wanted, and we're very happy and proud of his family and how they put on the event. But it was also very funny, especially Michael Malice and Greg Gutfeld. But I'll say more on Friday and I'll turn it back to Erica.

Host (8:32)

Oh, thanks. Okay, so, Owen, I'm going to grab you real quick and if you want to say a few words about it.

Owen (8:40)

Yeah, well, I thought it was amazing. I posted that. I think it was probably the most useful service of its kind in history. You know, if you just took the lessons that were referred to in that service and implemented in your life, it would probably be enough to make you successful. And it was just. It was great that all the speakers had these different perspectives. Like, they all had different types of relationships with Scott, so they all had kind of like a different angle. You know, Joel starting out with sort of the biographical stuff was great because he kind of set the context for things. But then a lot of the other ones were more like, well, this is how I knew Scott, and this is what he did for me. And it was. Was just great. And, you know, I love meeting the family and all of you, and it was really. It was just a great experience and, you know, at the same time sad. But, you know, I think to me, it was more uplifting than anything else.

Host (9:35)

Oh, that's awesome, Sergio.

Marcela (9:37)

Oh, Yeah, I agree 100%. The most useful service in history. I like that. That will be the label for that one. Yeah, it was an incredible experience. It was just like, I don't know, like somebody pulling me out of this reality and taking me out to the Matrix and showing me the Oracle, Temple of Crystal. I don't know, because I see Scott now as a superhero. I don't see him as a normal human being anymore. He has transcended. Now in that house is the origin story of a superhero. I know he wasn't born in that house. Right. But his essence is there everywhere.

Owen (10:22)

Everywhere.

Marcela (10:23)

You walk through, you can feel him. My favorite part of the house, quickly, is in the man cave. Walter gave me a little private tour of it and he showed me this little square where Scott drew a Dilbert cartoon next to a hole on the wall. And he had to, like, wouldn't. He had to fix that wall.

BJ Dichter (10:49)

Right.

Marcela (10:49)

But he left that square. He left that square to remind them because that meant breaking through. Breaking through the other side. And that's the one thing that I was like, wow. He left that in here to remind us all that there is another side and we don't have to stay here. We can break through. So, yeah, that's it. Thank you.

Host (11:10)

Yeah. Scott's a very intentional human being and thoughtful and. Yeah, we'll talk more about it on Friday. It was, it was beautiful. So, you guys, who's that man in the corner? That's bj. You guys, I'm going to let BJ introduce himself. We've been friends through X for a while and communicating for a long time. I find you to be very inspiring, bj, and just an all around great human. A patriot. He is our neighbor to the north. Shout out to Canada. Where's Mike Bird and Montreal Galaxy? All you Canadians, we love you. But bj, I'm going to let you introduce yourself. We're going to put your handle in the chat so people can follow you, which I recommend. And why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself and what's going on in your world.

BJ Dichter (12:06)

Yeah, so a couple things. Firstly, it is an honor. I wish Scott was the one here and not us. And I think we all feel the same way. But, you know, longtime listener, first time caller. So I really appreciate you having me on to share my perspective. Scott and I, as many other people, had communicated semi regularly, privately online. And in my case, it was. It was actually before the trucker Convoy, and I'll get to that in a second. But that's kind of how people know me in the United States or when I speak at conferences around the world, including El Salvador, by the way, Marcel, I spoke there a year and a half ago. And so those of you may remember, in February 2022, there was a massive protest against the lockdowns and mandates in Canada. And I was in charge of communication, messaging, and essentially what I would just, I would describe that you guys would understand the reframing of it when they. I was reached out to when there was about 10 or 11 truckers that were starting this protest against the government. And they said, we're going to go to Trudeau and we're going to protest. And we need somebody who has some media communications, understands podcasting, which is the other thing that I do. And I said, and tell me if you guys know this, if you can spot what I did, I said, no, we're not going to protest Trudeau. We're going to celebrate freedom. We're going to celebrate being Canadian, and we're going to celebrate bringing people of different opinions together. And I wrote an article about it about a year, year and a half ago called, you know, the Greatest Reframe in Canadian History. That's what I was trying to do. And I think Scott understood that. So I work as a journalist privately. You've seen, maybe seen my articles in Zero Hedge, Daily Bell, National Telegraph, bunch of publications. I produce podcasts for a little startup that I have and I'm working on for quite some time. And I'm coming to the tail end of trucking, which was, you know, my and my brother's escape, who's a police officer during that ridiculous time in Canada where we could go across the border to the United States and see some sentiment of normalcy, because as bad as it was there, it was significantly worse here. So that's kind of me and Scott ended up talking slightly before over Instagram. And then the trucker convoy happened. And what's very interesting, and I recommend people, this is kind of a plug for the Scott Adams School in the direction you guys are going that month during the the trucker protest, which is this honking for freedom dot com. You want to read more about it? That was the one time in the past 10 years or so that I didn't have time to listen to Scott every day. That was the only time. And I think I caught one or two episodes during that period. So what I've done, my way of memorializing Scott was to go back to that time frame and start listening to that entire month of coffee with Scott Adams episodes. And I want to thank all of you for your simultaneous sips in support of the trucker convoy. That was amazing. I'm about halfway through, so I'm very excited to see how Scott sees views how things ended with us in Ottawa. But that's, that's the short version of a very long story of who I am. And also I guess to add a pin on this for us to discuss this later, I had run for. For parliament in Canada, so I got involved in politics. My business was on a university campus, and I saw everyone go insane around 2012, 2013. And I decided, hey, let's get involved in politics and see if we can help out and help change things and reframe things. And so that's how I got into puzzle. When Scott talked about the gears of the machine, the gears behind the machine, that really resonates with me because I've lived it, I've experienced it, and I still have lots of support on the inside of our political establishment here.

Host (16:39)

That's amazing. So you were that guy that was like, I'm putting my money where my mouth is. I'm gonna get involved as best I can. Which you did. So what resulted from that? And tell us what you've been doing.

BJ Dichter (16:51)

Now the short version is. And you know, people say this is hyperbolic, but it is the reality. That's what ended Covid. That protest ended Covid around the world. And without getting to a long winded explanation of it. But essentially when we started to see politicians shift and do message testing, and one day they would say they're in support of it, the next day they would say they're not, the next day they say they would. That's a political party and the lobby class using their polling companies to message test. And that's when I knew it would end. And what was supposed to be a massive super spreader event. Remember all of that? Oh, they're all super spreader events. Well, it turns out it wasn't. And very quickly you could see the establishment was trying to figure out how can we back away from this policy but still save face. So, oh, we're going to get rid of the policy in three weeks, in a month. I used to troll them online. Nothing to do with truckers because I knew from people behind the scenes, I knew from having a brother who's a police sergeant what was happening within government. And they all knew it was. It was time to end it all. And it ended because of. Because of that protest. And since then, now I've, you know, I have a, you know, a moderate following. So I do. I publish a lot of articles on my substack. That's what ends up getting to Daily Bell, Telegraph, Zero Hedge, that sort of stuff. I've been speaking at bitcoin conferences around the world because I'm a big bitcoiner as well. But the other thing is, when I got involved in Pauloz, is to get to meet a lot of really interesting people. And one of the people I met was the real life Jack Ryan. So he was military, he's retired, but he was a seeking operator who became an intelligence analyst. And his particular area of expertise as a court expert and witness in parliament, in the Senate was Islamic terrorism funding and all the networks of money laundering and how that entire mechanism works. So when I met him, I said, you should do a podcast. He said, that's great. I've no idea how to do one. I'm like, great, I can make a podcast for you. And we did one, and it ended up becoming the podcast that governments around the world were listening to. And it's very interesting to see some of our information has made its way through the political establishments around the world and seems to be having an effect on policy. So for four years I worked with this guy, built out his platform online, and they gave me a crash course in how this entire infrastructure works, which is why I see the Somalian stuff going on in Minnesota. I'm like, oh, yeah, exactly, Murray. That's exactly what happens in parts of Canada and in Latin America as well. I see it all over the place in Colombia, when I used to live in Colombia, and I go there frequently, and I see that happening in Latin America. So, yeah, that's. That's a short. Like I said, there's a long story, and there's a lot of things that I've been involved in to try to help all of us push back against this. This extremist insanity that we're seeing on both sides and try to bring people together, which I think is the. That was what Scott was trying to do broadly. And, you know, so let me go back.

Owen (20:21)

Let me go back to the trucker rally, because to me, you know, obviously I'm from the United States, so I'm looking at it as an outsider, but it was fascinating. It was obviously a psyop, and there was so much persuasion on both sides and, you know, so maybe you could tell us a little bit more about what that was like on the inside. Like how it was organized and, you know, how you managed all the, I don't know if you want to call it public relations or communications and what it was like to be part of that, because I, you know, as an external observer, I remember all the build up to it where it was like, you know, the convoy. And so everybody knew it was coming and it was gaining steam as it went, as more trucks were getting on the road. And then, you know, there was the, like, the joy of all the people. Like you had all the bouncy castle stuff going on and, and kids around. And that made it very different than like some angry rally where people were, you know, maybe being violent and that made it probably harder for them to counter. But then they did like send somebody in with a Nazi flag and, you know, so they tried to dismantle it all these different ways and none of it seemed to work. So how did all, how did all that happen? And what was it like being on the inside of that?

BJ Dichter (21:34)

We could talk for days about. It was total chaos. I mean, this is how you can see your protests that you have in the United States. They're completely foreign funded and organized. They're corporations that are staging fake protests because a real protest, like what ours was, there's no uniform signs, there's no uniform messaging. Everybody wants to be in charge and the political establishment gets involved and tries to tear it apart. And by the way, this is why they get upset with me. On the Conservative side, it was both sides. It was both the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party both sabotaged us and send in their people. And there's a reason for that. And I'll give you a little context. In order for Justin Trudeau to have gotten elected, Barbara, Canada is much smaller. It's about the size of California in terms of population, right? And it took Jerry Butts, who was his right hand man, four years to raise $40 million to get Trudeau elected. We raised $25 million cumulatively in three weeks. So we became the official opposition. So we saw when there was an inquiry that I and others had to testify in that there was communication between the leaders of the Liberal Party and the leaders of the Conservative Party saying, yes, we both agree, we got to put an end to the protests. Like, hey, hey, whose side are you on, guys? But so what they did is they brought people in to kind. And this happens all over the place. This is why so many grassroots movements get sabotaged, is they always do that when it's grassroots. It gets some momentum. They'll have somebody who will get involved and try to brand that person as the face around it. And then they'll say something positive about the mid century Germans. And then everybody, the regular people will see that on the news. They'll do that just as the legacy news is there. And then regular people who are just seeing a little clip on the news as they're cooking dinner are like, okay, those people are just crazy. And they dismiss it. They did it to the Tea Party movement. They do do it to any sort of grassroots movements that happens across the western world because the lobby firms that run these strategies are international. They have offices in the UK and Canada, in the United States and Argentina and the Netherlands all over the place. And that's what's leading to some of the chaos. That's why I'm not a red versus blue guy. You know, there's good and bad on all sides. And I think that's something that all of us here agree on about not being so pigeonholed in one or two sides. Right. Does that make sense?

Owen (24:17)

Yeah, it definitely does. I mean, there's the same dynamic here. You know, we often refer to it here as the unipartist party where it's just like both sides are part of this establishment and it's kind of not, not really that different whether they're a Republican or a Democrat because they're just looking out for themselves, they're protecting the system and they're trying to keep their own network strong and their own financial position strong. And you know, it's, it's throughout our, our whole government. So I think there's a lot of parallels there.

BJ Dichter (24:44)

But you know what, Owen? I, I've had a lot, I spent a lot. I spent most of my time in the United States and spent a lot of time in Florida and have most of my life. And I was giving a speech because of all this background of working within this intel analyst and stuff. And I learned so much about this very prominent issue right now. I gave a speech, a couple of speeches last year on national security threats to the United States. And I had some people in the audience, they were telling me, you know, oh well, we have a uni party here. I'm like, oh no, no, no, you guys, I understand the sentiment, but I gotta tell you, that's not a uni party. You know what a uni party looks like? It looks like in Canada where you have the Conservative party and the Liberal Party and you have all these other smaller parties that don't really mean much anymore. Right. And when the, the deputy leader of the Conservative Party was a lobbyist for the firm founded by Justin Trudeau's chief of staff. That's a uniparty. So let's map that out again. The deputy leader of the Conservative Party worked for Justin Trudeau's chief of staff. And what did she do? She worked in a position on lobbying on behalf of Walmart to close small businesses and keep Walmart open during COVID That is, I mean, you guys would be in awe of our degree of uniparty. Look, I understand what you're getting at there, but it is so much worse in the parliamentary system because the parliamentary system allows for it much more easy. I think your system's actually much better.

Owen (26:23)

Yeah, I mean, I certainly can see that. I understand. Especially with the parliamentary system where you have to have sort of a coalition government. So it would encourage that more. Right. Because we've certainly evolved in the US to be more of this two party system where you at least have to pretend you're opposing the other side. It doesn't always happen, but, you know, but it's gotten very polarized where, you know, the Democrats are always just trying to obstruct everything the Republicans are trying to do, and the Republicans are trying to obstruct what the Democrats want to do and it ends up with just gridlock most of the time where nothing gets through Congress. And unless you have majorities everywhere like we happen to have now, you can't really get anything passed. And even now it's, it's hard because of the, the razor thin margins. But I, I, I get what you're saying is that, you know, it's, it's more, I don't want to say incestuous, but I just did. But you know, people are like, if, if you don't have a coalition, then you like can't even function as a government at all. Right. Isn't that kind of how it is? Like you have to have some majority to really even have a prime minister. Right.

BJ Dichter (27:31)

And we, we don't have the coalitions in the same way we, we, we did in the last few years of the Trudeau administration. But their coalitions are not as popular here as they are in Europe for a whole bunch of reasons. But I get your sentiment, I understand exactly what you're saying. And by the way, just a little thing on Canada that everybody here will understand. In the spirit of Scott, I'm going to ask a question to which all of you already know the answer. I won't even have to finish the question. Okay. What percentage of Canadians will always vote for the Liberal Party, no matter what. No matter how communist they become, no how irrational. What percentage of. And I know from my campaign, because we see the data all the time, what percentage always vote for the Liberal Party. Go.

Owen (28:28)

I can see the answers rolling in already.

BJ Dichter (28:30)

What are they saying?

Owen (28:32)

25%.

BJ Dichter (28:33)

Dead on, dead accurate. Isn't that amazing? So when the Conservatives win, The conservatives get 30% or 31%. When the liberals win, they get 30%. So they're always, they're always fighting over a margin, about 5 or 6% of the country that's staying home. That's all that they're catering to. But yeah, and this is why Canada is such a disaster. And you know, the gerrymandering and how the writings are mapped out are different, a different story. But Canada is not the left wing country that everybody says it is. Just like Colombia is not the left wing country like everybody says it is. It's just how the, the writings have been dispersed over years has led to a system that people get this. And this is why you could see that with the trucker convoy. Those people were not left wing, they were sometimes right wing. A lot of centrist people, they're just pragmatic people that own businesses don't engage in protesting. That's why you saw all sorts of different conflicting messages. And back to your original question. Yeah, man, it was total chaos. It was up at 6 in the morning, you're collapsing at 11:30, 12 o' clock at night. The first half of the day was trying to cancel press conferences from random people that were always a little bit off. That the political establishment would find the craziest person on the street and say, you know what? You should be the one speaking for the. On behalf of the truckers. It was a setup, right? So that was half of our time was just damage control. And that's what a real protest looks like. A real protest. You can't set it up in 15 minutes and get everybody together on one message. Chanting. And as all of you know from, from Scott's, from what Scott's taught here and what, you know, all of us who've studied hypnosis shout out to Mike Mendel. That's where I studied hypnosis. The chanting is the indicator of brainwashing. That's why they're all chanting. We weren't chanting. We couldn't even get people to say the same thing. I was trying to get people just focus on mandates and the Arrive can app. No, but all this, I'm like, I get it. I get it. But we gotta have something where the government is in a position where they can meet us somewhere and we can find some path forward together. But, yeah, man, it was total chaos.

Owen (30:56)

So let me transition a little bit to Scott Adams. I saw you were planning to talk about this in terms of his influence. Can you talk a little bit about how Scott has influenced you?

BJ Dichter (31:07)

Yeah, it's pretty wild. So when I was a little kid, a little kid when I was in High School, 16, 17 years old, what better way? If you're like one of the computer car guy who just gets really bored in class, other than music class, me and my buddies, what would we do? We would go skip classes and either sit around in the lunchroom or go to or go for coffee down the street. And I remember. I don't remember the specific day, but I remember it was in the winter. And I remember the temperature was like, for some reason. And my buddy shows me this cartoon called Dilbert, and This was in 1992, I think. 92, 93. And it was brilliant. It was hysterical. And that just became like, something that we would periodically, when a Dilbert cartoon would come out, we just get together and talk about it. And. Okay, just thought, you know, you grow up, you kind of move on with life. And it's kind of moved beyond Dilbert. Just life gets busy. Went to school, got an education, got into the workforce, all that sort of stuff. And, you know, I had a number of positions in the corporate world, in marketing, communications, that sort of thing, which is kind of what led me down this path into understanding hypnosis over time. And I remember after I had read Cialdini's first book many years prior, I read his second book, Persuasion, and I thought I should find some sort of podcast that talks about this, because I'm really fascinated by it. And, well, lo and behold, I went into Google, I searched Cialdini Podcast, and Scott Adams comes up. I'm like, scott Adams, that name sounds familiar. Who's that? All right, well, I checked it out, and he was on Periscope, and I think he was doing his RSS feed, like the podcast feed. I think it was just transitioning to YouTube. If I'm remembering correctly, it was around that time the Periscope was ending, and I started listening to him, like, oh, yeah, okay, I get it. And then after several weeks, I'm like, oh, hey, that's the Dilbert guy. Perfect. And then since then, I tried to listen as much as possible. And I got to tell you, it's so, you know, when my business was on the university campus, I saw, in my opinion, what the faculty was doing to students. Because we would establish relationships with students over four years, we get to know them, kids would come in, good kids get education. They would go to university, sometimes they'd go to firms and send us business. It was great. But all of a sudden it was almost like there was this form of mental abuse against the children. Right. It was extreme postmodernism, which, by the way, is one of the podcasts I produce for Stephen Hicks. If those of you who listen to Jordan Peterson talk about postmodernism, that's Stephen Hicks's work, his book explaining postmodernism. And so I saw that happening on campus, and that's when I think the extreme bifurcation started to happen. And it was so refreshing for me in that time to come across, hey, it's the Dilbert guy. And he's arguing all positions from all sides in the best means possible. I'm like, it was just refreshing to me, if you understand. It just became. And I think for all of us, it just became a time for us to just. This is a good time. I can detox the negative emotions I'm being subjected to on campus all the time. And that the, the amount of influence over time, like, you get to know people over time, they start to influence you more and more. And in me, the, the. I mean, the greatest indicator is I now. I'm now a. I don't know how you accredited hypnotist, because I actually went through the process, went to a school. I just got interested in it over a couple of years because so much of what he was saying are things that I was already trying to do. I got through the world of sales and marketing. And I remember when I did my course with Mike Mendel and Chris, so many of the concepts that Scott talks about come from hypnosis. But there's one difference that makes Scott so special. He's the guy who can take. Here are the concepts that you've learned in hypnosis and this form of communication. And now I'm going to give you all the practical examples in the world, and I'm going to overlay it together. Once you study hypnosis and become pretty proficient in it, oh, my God. It opens up what Scott was trying to communicate in an entirely different light that I never even imagined. So, yeah, that's. He's had significant influence on my life, for sure.

Owen (36:08)

And it's mostly around hypnosis.

BJ Dichter (36:12)

What's that?

Owen (36:12)

It's mostly around Hypnosis, you think?

BJ Dichter (36:15)

Yes, yes. I think when he was. I said this on one of my. I'm starting to stream more regularly again. I said this on one of my streams the other day. He was hypnotizing us all, whether we understand it or not. He was trying. I think he was doing it with good intention of trying to de. Radicalize us. And I said this to him a long time ago. He first started talking. He kind of. He kind of sent a smile emoji back or whatever it was. And you can see all the technique that he uses. Every. It's repetition to pull you into his frame, if you notice, every episode. Good morning, everybody. That is a hypnotic script that he starts with. Now, he built it over time because it's really difficult to build a hypnotic script for a large audience like that. Is. This is something revolutionary in the world of hypnosis. I think people don't realize how significantly he has added to that world. But, yeah, that's what he's done. And once you go through and you learn how to do inductions with people, whether they're passive or direct, and then you go back to Scott Adams like, oh, my God, you sneaky bugger. And now. And I think that's why we're so emotionally tied to him, because we share the same framing of the world as he did, because he helped construct it for us in a way that we're not going to be so subjected to the radicalization we're all being subjected to in the world right now. Yeah.

Owen (37:45)

And I definitely recognize that. And I think Scott was pretty transparent about it. It was kind of the amazing part to me was that he would say, I'm hypnotizing you. Or he'd say, you know, I'm. I'm always using these techniques because it's just built into my personality at this point. And. But he would, he would tell you. I mean, I don't know if you'd call it a warning, but he would be very transparent about it. And then he would also say, it's going to work anyway.

BJ Dichter (38:08)

Yeah. It's because there's a thing they, they say in hypno hypnosis. I. I encourage you all to go check out Mike. Mike Mendel's Hypnosis Academy.

Owen (38:17)

I know I did the self hypnosis part of that. So I have.

BJ Dichter (38:21)

Okay, perfect. Yeah. Anything that infers hypnosis causes hypnosis. That's why you can say, I'm going to persuade you right now. This is the technique I'm going to use. And Then do it. And it still works because your subconscious mind just can't shake it because it just seems so practical.

Host (38:40)

Wow, that's so amazing. So I have a couple of questions. First of all, everyone, YouTube, locals, rumble, are you loving having BJ on? Isn't he so interesting and amazing? And I already know we want to have you on another million times. They are asking where you stream so where they can see your live streaming.

BJ Dichter (39:06)

Oh, so I'm using I'm on rumble, locals, YouTube and substack. Substack is actually my biggest audience. And go to any of those. Just type in BJ Dichter and you'll find me all over the place. And. Yeah, and I'm trying actually not to cross over with you guys too much. I'm starting at 10:30 on Friday, Saturdays and Sundays. So as you guys are winding down, I'm just slowly starting up.

Host (39:34)

We're not winding down.

Marcela (39:37)

I have a quick question for.

Scott Adams (39:39)

Yeah.

BJ Dichter (39:42)

Thank you.

Marcela (39:42)

Gracias.

BJ Dichter (39:49)

No, perfecto.

Marcela (39:51)

Oh, no. I wanted to ask you, you've been to El Salvador. So you have met. Well, you know about Bukele, right? And you know about Bukele's a reframe of liberation instead of incarceration. You know, he's liberating the people just like you do. Like, you're talking about freedom, that reframe those two things. So I see you as the Bukele of Canada. Can you be the Bukele of Canada and liberate Canada? Because we need. We need somebody that has that. I think Bukele is a hypnotist too. Maybe. I don't know. What do you think?

BJ Dichter (40:34)

No. So Bukele is a blind spot for conservatives. And if you do, if you dig deep into Bukele, there's some very concerning things in his background. So I understand. You know, for me, implementing bitcoin was great. Implementing, you know, jailing the narco gangs was necessary. So I'm on board with that. Those were not his ideas. Those ideas belonged to Alejandro Moishon, who was the national security advisor to Bukele and who I had communicated with on a number of issues and sent him some information and said, listen, you know, he knew I spent a lot of time in Latin America. And I said, this is what I'm seeing in these different countries. This is what I know what happens in Canada and the U.S. you should take a look at these things, because I'm very concerned about what I'm seeing in El Salvador. And he said, okay, I guess. And he started to, you know, do Some digging, I guess, I don't really know. And then he was just arrested on complete BS charges. Treason. He was just always committed treason. He disappeared for six months. And then in February of 2023, that's when we saw pictures online of his body that was chopped up into little pieces because he was tortured while he was in custody. I did an article on this a number of years ago, a couple of years ago, that bukele for 10 years was part of FMLN. The Communist Party. Yes. And used to say.

Shelly (42:16)

I just want to say I agree 100%. Being from El Salvador and knowing the things in the ground is very different than what the conservatives are trying to selling. So I just. And this is so much.

BJ Dichter (42:30)

And this is what I love about Scott is he would acknowledge the blind spots. So I actually went down with a friend of mine, you can check out his YouTube channel called Britannica. And he does, his name is Callum. He does like, you know, what vice news used to do when it was credible. He just came back from Syria, he went to Afghanistan. He goes to. Wherever he can get killed. He goes. But he went to, he wanted to go to El Salvador and he asked me because Spanish, he's never into the tropics. So we went together and we. He did a video called the Bitcoin Dictatorship El Salvador. It's online, it's got a few hundred thousand views. And what he explains is there's the story in English and then there's the story in Spanish. And Marcela, as you know, the story in Spanish is very, very different now. Not to take away from. Yes, El Salvador is. It reminds me of Colombia. When I first moved to Colombia was 2003. There's like 16 of us gringos in the country. Everybody thought we were insane, but it was amazing. I saw that country transition over 20 years. It's the same sort of feel in El Salvador, but the background ties, particularly Al Bukele's father Armando, are very, very concerning and I wish conservatives would stop ignoring it. And my speech on national security threats to the United States that the big one I gave in Florida was on national security threats from Canada and El Salvador.

Shelly (44:08)

You nailed it right there. I've never heard somebody as intelligent as you're just, I'm. I'm speechless that you know this. My father was in politics in El Salvador and he, he was against okay's father for so many years.

BJ Dichter (44:26)

Ah, yeah. So you would know.

Shelly (44:28)

So I, I mean, I just, I, I wish more people, people would ask questions. My, my biggest deal with El Salvador and everybody's like, why are we talking about this country? But is when Bukele and the. And. And the party that he's part of changed the law so that he could become president again. Yeah. And. And forever.

BJ Dichter (44:51)

You know, who needs a constitution?

Shelly (44:54)

He changed the constitution to be president, to be able to be elected again and again and again and again. And if you have, like, a video of Bukele, like, years ago saying, I will never do this. I'll be the George Washington of this country. I will never run again. I'll just. I'm just trying to make this country better. And then I believe last year was when they changed the constitution so that he could get elected again and again.

Host (45:25)

And again and again.

Shelly (45:27)

And that was like, the tell for me, that, yeah, definitely not the right move.

BJ Dichter (45:33)

Yeah. The last thing on El Salvador. And then I think we can move on is I think the tell will be Marcel, and I'm sure you'll agree with me. Is he gonna run again? If he's gonna try to run again. Okay, now we have a dictator. Now we have a problem. Right. So let's see what happens. Maybe. I mean, I do know he announced this internationally and publicly, that he has a plan to merge over time. Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua, and under one economic zone. And for some reason, 20, 24. I don't know the 25 numbers yet. The emir of Qatar was there eight times. Why is the Emir of Qatar, you know, moonlighting in El Salvador numerous times? And there's. There's some things going on with the Qatari regime behind the scenes that will lend itself to it. But I. I don't think your audience wants to hear this right now. But that's. That's. We'll talk about that more, Marcel.

Marcela (46:36)

How about that?

BJ Dichter (46:37)

We can.

Owen (46:38)

We can. We can bring it back on to talk about that.

Shelly (46:40)

So.

Host (46:40)

Sorry.

Shelly (46:40)

I have one last thought. Sorry. Scott actually asked me a lot about this, and he was of the same mind as. As you are, that he. You know, he. He kept. You know, he was skeptic about someone being this. This hero. So he's like, I'm gonna keep myself from, you know, cheering him on and see what happens. Like you said, if he gets.

BJ Dichter (47:10)

I think because you. I and other people were sending him information that would have caused some concern. And, you know, he was. Again, back to Scott. He was a pragmatic thinker, which is what we all have to be and question ourselves. Like, I love when I find out I'm wrong. You know, there's on this. And maybe Scott inspired this. I do this, this reframe technique in the five minute journal every day, you know, most days, not every day, which is you wake up. What are three things you're grateful for? What are three things you're going to do to make today amazing? And at the end of the day, there's basically the inverse of that. Okay, what are the three best things that happened today? What could you have done to make it better? But I add something else in. What did I get wrong? And I think that's what we need to do more. It's really difficult for our ego to allow us to admit this is what I was wrong about today. Scott was really good at this. He really had himself dialed in and understood himself, I think, better than most people did. At least that's my read of it. And that's something I suggest for everybody. If we get everybody to start doing that, that also might start lowering the temperature. Who are. I think it was Scott who said, it's not your opinion that's the problem. It's your certainty that your opinion is correct that's the problem. Yeah.

Owen (48:30)

Okay, so we have a few minutes left, and I think you were gonna talk about Trump versus Carney and how Scott would frame the whole situation in Canada, and then maybe that's a little bit of a transition into talking about the news. There is a story I posted today about that situation. Just, you know, I know there's this thing about the trade deal where Carney was apparently moving in a direction of making some kind of deal with China on trade and Trump to threaten to 100% tariffs if he did that. Carney seemed to back off at least somewhat on that, but I think it's somewhat questionable how much he backed off because I think he still signed some kind of agreement. So it's a little bit, you know, ambiguous in my mind exactly where this is headed. And then the other story I posted was just that Y Combinator announced that they're no longer going to invest in Canada. So maybe you could comment on those two things.

BJ Dichter (49:23)

Yeah, you know, I'm still in the truck a few times a week when I can get in there as I'm winding down trucking over the next couple of months. Personally, I just love to get on the road and see the world. I can tell you Canada is going to have massive economic collapse in six to nine months because transport of commodities into the United States is a leading indicator of our economic health, and we've all but collapsed. That's why I can take time off today and Nobody bothers me. And I can take an entire week off. Yeah, Take as much time as you want. I think the way Scott would frame it is something I've talked about on the radio. Actually, I've mentioned Scott a number of times because I do legacy radio. I'm actually doing an interview later on today. I might even talk about this interview. And I take Scott's framing of who taught Canada how to fight, and I tell them the story of when Doug Ford, who was the Conservative side that sabotaged the trucker convoy, he was going to fight back against Trudeau, against Trump, by canceling the contract and banning Starlink from Canada. As Scott said. Let me get this straight. The way they're going to fight back is turn off their own Internet? Okay. And what I'm arguing on the radio and the people of Canada are really, they're like us. Most people are pragmatic. It's the politicians who live off the structure. They're the ones who get outraged, which is why I do this. But I try to explain to them that at the end of the day, most of us in Canada, this is at least what I see. There is such appetite and support for the United States. We know our politicians are losers because they don't understand we have no leverage. Donald Trump is the master of putting himself in a position where he has two ways to win, no way to lose. Sound familiar? But it's totally accurate. And our fools in politics, in the UNI Party don't understand. We don't have leverage. And he just took. By doing what, by getting involved in Venezuela, completely removed any leverage that Canada has. I've been advocating on the radio because I know so many, and there are good people in politics, too, who are as frustrated as you. And on, they're a little bit lower level, they're behind the scenes, they're working as staffers and stuff. And I keep trying to tell them Trump read Art of the Deal. Just read it. None of them read it. Just read it. He wants you to make a deal and he wants you to come to him because he's going to put himself in the dominant position. And I say, you know why he is. Because the America is the greatest economy and military force throughout human civilization. Not going to have leverage over that. So just make him happy. You know, there. There are many, many ways you can offer him different overtures and we can all come together. That's what they want. And I do know from people inside the administration, big donors, what they want from Canada. You know, it's pretty pragmatic they want. They don't want to take over Canada as the 51st state who wants to deal with our 25% that will vote Communist no matter what. They don't want to deal with that. But what they do want to have is something similar to what Europe was supposed to be with the eu, which is one economic zone, get rid of the border, have free and open trade between Canada and the U.S. americans can work in Canada, Canadians can work in America. And that will allow American industry to. To move in to the largest plot of natural resources on the planet that have not been expropriated. And it would make America or this pan, or unified American economy, such a threat to China that China becomes a barfly. Which cat is that? Is that Gary? Yeah, Carrie's awesome. So that's what they want. And I think ultimately, if we played our cars right in Canada, that's what we'll get. But it's just frustrating to watch this unnecessary theater go on. The pushback against what are you pushing back? They're 80% of our economy, or, sorry, 76% of our economy. We're not pushing back. Just work with them. And the other thing is the last point on this. My American friends often struggle to understand, especially the farther south you go, 90% of Canadians live within an hour drive of the border. I'm an hour from Niagara Falls in Toronto, which is the biggest city. We're the same culture. If you go to Alberta and North Dakota, it's the same culture. Same thing where I live. If you're in upstate New York and Toronto, we have all the same cultural references, the same media, the same influences. So we really are the same. A very. I think we are the same culture. The difference is Canadians are more passive, whereas Americans are more aggressive. Which is why I always get criticized saying, you behave more like an American. And I say, well, thank you.

Host (54:37)

Yeah.

Marcela (54:38)

Disagree.

Host (54:40)

You do, Sergio?

Marcela (54:41)

Yes, I do, but I don't think we have time to tell you everything. I disagree with you, bj.

BJ Dichter (54:49)

Next time. Sergio.

Host (54:50)

Yeah.

Marcela (54:51)

Let's do a spaces on Owens on Saturday.

BJ Dichter (54:53)

Maybe if I can on Saturday, I'll try to join. The Saturday ones are difficult, but I'll see if I can.

Host (55:01)

Well, all right. With all that being said. Okay. So you have a whole new fan base going on right now, which I'm so thrilled about. And the Chat loves you. I love you. You've just been always an amazing, interesting person, and I'm glad to know you and I'm glad that you accepted the invitation.

BJ Dichter (55:21)

Thank you.

Shelly (55:22)

And.

Host (55:23)

And I hope when I ask you a million more times that you'll come back because you have so many interesting viewpoints.

Shelly (55:29)

You.

Host (55:30)

You get it. And everybody's like, wow. Everyone's saying, please come back. We love you. Way to go. You know, I'm following him. I'm going to subscribe to him. So you were very illuminating for a lot of us and we really appreciate you being here and we can't wait to see you again. So we'll make sure that we drop all your info after the show so everybody can follow you. And if you. You know what, bj, I'll tag you. And if you can like, put like, where you. I'll make a post right after this and you just put all the places that you stream and everything and everyone will follow. Okay. And Shelly was having technical difficulties today. Oh, it's.

BJ Dichter (56:09)

We can hear you.

Host (56:10)

All right, Shelly, want to say anything?

Shelly (56:15)

Yes. Thank you for coming on. That was wonderful. Unfortunately, I missed the first part trying to figure out how I was going to hook it to these earphones with Scott's information. So I finally did. So I can hear at least the last part of it. But yes, thank you. I will re. Listen to. To it again afterwards. But.

BJ Dichter (56:35)

Well, Shelly, just since it's our first time talking, the first thing is my thoughts are with you and we all. I don't break down in tears a lot, but when I saw you come on that stream, that was a difficult moment for a lot of us. And I think you are also honorable, trying to build out the Scott Adams School. If I can ever help with suggestions or ideas, I'm here from you. I love all you guys. I think you're doing God's work in trying to make this happen. And I think it's important to have. And I think you all understand this. I'm sure your listeners would agree it's important to maintain the frame of like. What I admired about Scott so much is he wouldn't live in the past. And we have such an opportunity of this massive archive of lessons and framing of the world that he's left behind to use those to springboard for a brighter future and to help new people understand how those lessons of the past will apply to them in their future life. And I think if that becomes part of the goal of what the. Sorry. The system of the Scott Adams School, I think you're going to be hugely successful and I wish you all the best of luck.

Shelly (57:59)

Thanks so much. Yes, I definitely. That's definitely wanted. And you know, it was a short time for Me to break into this world, but he said I could do it. So here I am, doing my best. So definitely I will reach out to you. Yes. I definitely need some guidance on this, so appreciate it. Yes, I. I watched for the first time. I watched back. The celebration of life. Sorry. My voice is to going. Going for some reason. And, you know, I had to laugh because I wrote down, you know, I knew I was going to be nervous, so I wrote it down. And I told myself I, like, I couldn't get past it, so I told myself, I'm gonna read it. So I got my hair done. Thank you to my hairstylist, Kristen and Felicia. I had good hair, but I went to go. I went to read. You know, I was reading it because I was so nervous to her for the first time, because I thought, okay, this would be, like, if I was reading it, you know, to everybody. And I could not get. I couldn't do it. I was bawling. I. I just couldn't get through it. I was so grateful that I did that because I don't think I would have been able to get there to. To say it. I couldn't get past the first few words. So anyways, I was very grateful for that. But in that, I got all the years wrong. You know how Scott is with dates.

BJ Dichter (59:30)

He, you know, he names and names.

Shelly (59:35)

He tells.

Shelly (59:36)

Every time, he would tell me to put it in my calendar because he's like, okay, this is the date. You need to put it in your calendar, and you need to remind me, and you do all this stuff. And here I go. I have it on the paper. 2003, 2004, 2005. I'm like, 2024, 2026. I'm like, really? Are you really channeling through me right now? Anyways, it was very sweet. I know. I figured you guys knew. I think I started off wrong, but I corrected myself and then I just kept going wrong.

Host (60:07)

You did the weave?

Shelly (60:08)

Yeah. I think they got it.

Marcela (60:10)

We understood. We understood, Shelly. We understood. When I said 2022, we knew. We did a translation. The deal will filter.

Shelly (60:18)

Thank you.

Host (60:19)

Yeah, it was.

Shelly (60:20)

It was tough, but I'm so grateful that I was able to do it off camera.

Host (60:26)

You did an amazing job. You did right by Scott. Listen, you're there, and you know. You know, you're live streaming. You have all these professional people who are speakers and authors, right? And you're like, okay, no pressure, Right? Yeah.

Shelly (60:42)

How do I feel with that? Like, I was great. I honestly, I was really grateful that I was able to do it because I did have this. I had it. I gave it to someone just in case I couldn't get through it. So I was really grateful that I got that.

BJ Dichter (60:59)

So you were amazing. And also Owen, thank you for always doing those spaces like clockwork. I try to join when I can and they're great, they're very helpful and hats off to you brother.

Host (61:14)

All right guys, so listen let's have a closing sip. Scott, like to keep on time and we will see you back here tomorrow. We have another amazing guest tomorrow. Different topic, different subject but very Scott approved. Okay so we'll look forward to seeing you guys later. I'll post a message with BJ's info and he will follow up. Make sure to like follow subscribe and same with these channels. To you guys. Okay so we'll see you tomorrow. To Scott.

Owen (61:44)

To Scott.

BJ Dichter (61:44)

Scott.

Host (61:49)

Bye guys.

Owen (61:50)

Bye.