Erica (3:23)

All right, that was our shout out to Paul Collider. So, Paul Collider, you guys used to do a check for Scott every day on all platforms to make sure. All. All of them were running perfectly. And we miss you, Paul, but I bet you're sleeping in now anyway. So, you guys, I'd like to introduce myself. I'm Erica. We have beautiful Marcella. We have the very studious Sergio now. And the extra studious, way better than Tapper. We have Owen Gregorian and our friend of the show. We love you. So we have our special guest today, Joshua Lysa.

Sergio (4:11)

Yay.

Erica (4:13)

Joshua, are you on mute? Okay, so you guys. Yep. We asked Joshua to come on today, and he was excited because he's going to do a lesson for us today at the Scott Adams School. So, Joshua, take it away. The floor is yours.

Joshua Lysik (4:32)

Thank you, Erica. It's good to see you all. Sergio. We got Marcella, we got Owen. This is going to be a wonderful, fantastic time together. I am Joshua Lysik, also known as Oshualisek. I'm the editor publisher for Scott Adams. And I'm also like, Scott was a certified professional hypnotist. And I like to introduce hypnosis, hypnotic language, hypnotic applications into my books for. On behalf of my clients. Because if you can induce a trance like state, even in something like, let's say, a nonfiction book about business, then you can more easily bring those new beliefs into someone so that they can be more productive and can more easily implement your methods. Now, I wanted to teach you based on reframing your brain, of course. That's a famous book by Scott. Obviously, I assisted him in that endeavor. I was the contributing editor to reframe your brain. And I wanted to teach you all today. Take some time to teach you reframing 101 how to actually do it, how it actually works. What reframing is, is imagine a picture of the ocean. Okay? Now imagine that that picture has a five dollar black and white Walmart frame. Of course, Walmart's prices are kind of weird. So imagine it's $4.93 for this. For this frame. Frame. It now looks and feels like a cheap photo, does it not? Now imagine. Now imagine that it has a $1,000 ornate, gold, beautiful like clovers, and leaves almost frame around it. Now it feels like a completely different picture. And if the ocean picture in our lives is metaphorically like our lives, then by changing the frame, you change the experience of it. So reframing is simply different. Different frames around events to go from less productive to more productive thinking, less useful to more useful experiences. And of course, there are more than 160 reframes in reframing your brain that present new and More productive ways of thinking, feeling and being in your life. And I wanted to teach you how to come up with your own yourself in any area of your life that you need. Hence we don't have a whiteboard, but we have me using my kids markers. Reframing 101 with Joshua Lysik. We are now going to teach in hypnosis and I want to teach a little bit about hypnosis as well right now in hypnosis, the reason that it works so well to create new experiences. Of course the number one use case for hypnosis, clinical hypnosis is smoking cessation. So it's to quit smoking. And then there's also losing weight. They're sleeping better, they're stressing less, there's being more productive. I have a hypnosis audio program that is specifically covering sleep, stress, overeating, which is one of the contributing factors of obesity and also productivity, all in one. And I cover everything all at once using a very simple metaphor. But you can come up with your own yourself. Now. When you think about what it is that you want to achieve, you want to have more of something, you want to have less of something. What we're really getting at is identity change. Basically, if you are a different person, you get different results. Scott would always talk about the folly of trying to will yourself into habit change, habit transformation, and just how difficult that that truly was. And he was of course correct about that. If you try to just kind of white knuckle it. I'm going to sit down here because I feel like the video is a little bit wobbly and I want to de wobble myself here. I have a little camera stand here, phone stand.

Erica (8:34)

Alright.

Joshua Lysik (8:35)

Please confirm, Eric, that that looks acceptable for the lesson. Is that okay?

Erica (8:39)

Acceptable? Yes. Don't get any taller and don't turn on the fan.

Joshua Lysik (8:43)

Okay, well that would be kind of funny. Let's zoom. Push down a little bit. There we go. Got one of my kids toys behind me here. That's a fun little dartboard. It's great. It's like little plungers. Highly recommended for kids. As opposed to the pointy dots. Reframe. Okay. So if you want to have a new experience in life, what you need is a new identity around it. And one of the biggest ones I hear is Joshua. How can I be more productive in writing and write better and write more? I just feel like I procrastinate and writer's block and blah blah, blah, blah, blah. And I said, well you, you want to wr. That's the. That's the thing you want to write. You're not actually a writer because writers just write. It's just what we do. It's who we are. And people will ask me about my output on books and whatnot, how many clients I take, how do you do that? The question is not how, it's who. They'll say, how do you do it? And I said, I'm Joshua Isaac. And they just sort of glitch for a second and say when. It's when. What you do is your identity. You don't have to think about it. You don't have to habit Max. You don't have to create some kind of funky routine or something or try to, you know, let's try to build some. Let's try to build, shall we say, atomic habits in our life. The story of atomic habits and kind of wheeling, dealing and allegedly stealing some of Scott's original ideas for that book. It's kind of like the greatest hits of how to fail at Almost everything and still win big with James Clear's name on it, in my opinion. Kind of. Kind of annoying. That's one of the reasons why Scott is considered the most influential personal development writer of all time in space is because so many people have just told him his ideas, changed a few words, and then put their name on it. So it goes now about reframing. When it's just who you are, you don't have to think about it. And this is why hypnosis works so well, so fast for so many people. For those just coming in, I'm Joshua.

Erica (10:38)

Lysek, and Joshua, can you point your camera down a little bit so we see more of you? Okay, thanks. Oh, there we go.

Joshua Lysik (10:46)

Yeah.

Erica (10:46)

Yeah, we don't want to miss you.

Joshua Lysik (10:48)

Yeah. It would look really funky if it was like, like vertical, vertical mode, because then you would completely cut everything off. All right, so I'm going to show you this process here right now. Reframing 101, as I said. So what the original reframing book teaches, and it's called the Structure of Magic by Bandler and Grinder. They developed and sort of applied talk hypnosis model called Neuro linguistic programming, or NLP, back in the mid to late 70s and how that got started, how reframing was figured out, was Richard Bandler, who I had the opportunity to meet and train with him personally. That was wild experience. Like one of the most successful master perspectives of human history. Just casually chatting about how to deprogram liberals. That was a fun time of their terminal tds. Can it be done? Yes, it can. He, Richard Bandler, in college, he had these talk therapy group sessions that were on tapes, as in it was actually tape. Remember those days when taping was a thing, and his job as a student, student worker was to transcribe all of these talk therapy sessions. So. And that was back when you would listen to it and you would like, you know, type out the transcript for it, Right? And that was his job, I think it was one of the professors at the time. And over the course of all of these hours upon hours upon hours of talk therapy sessions, he noticed that there were patterns in the words he was typing. The patterns were some people had more productive ways of thinking about their issue, and other people had less productive ways. And he noticed that the people who got better from the therapy used different words to describe it, or they were led to use different words while they were in sort of like that in the zone. They were in train with the therapist. They were in a hypnotic like state in conversation. And by using different words to describe experiences, their experiences changed. Scott would talk about the user interface for reality. He would talk about creating your reality, programming your reality, reprogramming, reprogramming your own reality. And there is a fascinating realization that Bandler and Grinder had, which they wrote about in the book called the Structure of Magic, which was that there are certain Native American tribes, and this is to this day, the case for various locals, original locals, OG locals in the developing world. This one particular tribe that they studied, they had three words for all colors. So all colors. There's something like 30,000 different colors that can be experienced by the human eye. They describe them only as one of three words. And as a result, the people could only see three colors.

Erica (13:47)

Do we know those three words?

Joshua Lysik (13:50)

They're in the beginning of the Structure of Magic. And in Native American language, it wouldn't necessarily mean us to. If we're not. And I'm not in my office at the moment, this is home office experience. Hi, everybody. Yes, but one was something, I think one was like blue, green, and the other was like red, all reds, browns and oranges. And the other was something else. Right. It's like collapsing reality just to three things. And that, you might say, is the word that they like to use was an impoverished reality. If you're. If you're using words that keep you from unlocking freedom and having better experiences, then you are experiencing an impoverished reality. And so that's kind of a stark example, but that really is how words work. If you're using words to describe your experience. Then everything changes if you use different words. Right. It's all downstream. And what the hypnosis session does in clinical hypnosis is when the person is induced and then deepened into that trance like state where they're highly suggestible. It's kind of like a waking sleep type of intentional zoning out. We've all had it. Reading a great book or watching a riveting movie or having a conversation with, with a loved one. We kind of just like zone out and we have, we sort of lose the sense of time passing. That's a hypnotic state. And so we go into and out of those at all times. And kids under five actually in hypnotic and highly suggestible state.

Owen Gregorian (15:19)

I wanted to interject, I actually have the structure of magic in front of me. And the three words are lock, tit and tulak. And lock translates to red, tit translates to green, blue and tulac translates to yellow, orange, brown. That's all.

Erica (15:34)

Thank you, Owen.

Joshua Lysik (15:35)

Yeah, that's fine. So, so those are the three colors. Everything that you now see is one of those three colors only. And I think later in the book they talk about there's a different tribe that they speak of. I believe it's a West African tribe where they, they did not have words to describe say fractions or fractional experiences. So when they would describe where. Let's just pick a random experience where the fruit is on the tree, it would just be the fruits at the top of the tree. Is it literally at the top? Well, there are clusters of fruit that are halfway at the top. It would be top of tree, it wouldn't be halfway. So, so attraction like halfway almost all the way. These sorts of specific descriptions of distance they did not have words for and they did not therefore have experiences of them.

Erica (16:29)

I could not live in this time frame.

Joshua Lysik (16:31)

Yeah, but this is literally like the present day in certain parts of the.

Erica (16:34)

World and I can't do it.

Joshua Lysik (16:36)

The OG locals as I, as I described. And, and, and then when you realize, haha, we're so smart, well, we have only three colors for other parts of our experience and therefore we experience only those three colors. So we're analogous, we're analogizing here. Which, which does in fact work. So let's say in a hypnosis session you have been a smoker for 30 years and let's say you have been smoking a number of packs a day. You just, you want to stop. You haven't really found the thing. You've tried, you tried the patches, you tried the gum, you Tried all these different things. You tried cold turkey, you tried this, you tried that, you just keep going back. Well, what happens in the hypnosis session is you are, let's say you go through the induction, start to feel relaxed and kind of chill. Your conscious mind's guard goes down a little bit. Okay, this is great. Kind of like a guided visualization meditation type session. And almost like a massage of some, of some way it sort of feels like that. The sort of bonding experience with a skilled hypnotist. And then don't worry, we'll come into this how you can create your own reframes. I have to set, I have to set the stage for how this actually works and the hypnosis experience, because you can do it to yourself. The inductions are followed by deepeners. And funny enough, if you've ever actually had a hypnosis session, the practitioner will often use metaphors related to depth. So they will, for example, talk about how you're going deeper and deeper into the experience. You're sinking deeper and deeper into the chair, so your body is physically telling you where it is that you're going. And they will also use visual metaphors of like going, walking down flights of stairs, walking down your favorite path, going down an elevator. And watch the number as you go deeper. So the words that are being used are creating an experience for your body and for your mind. So right there we already have words creating a new experience just from the words alone that the hypnotist is saying. And once you're in that state, they will often begin to tell a, a metaphorical story or use a number of analogies that a five year old's mind can understand. Because the inner child we all have the experience of is our subconscious mind. Our subconscious mind across all of us is approximately five years old in its understanding of things. So if you ever talk to a five year old, they need absolute precision, multisensory descriptions of things to know how it works. They don't really do well with abstract or theoretical or hypothetical or word salad, as Scott would always like to say. Has to be specific and precise and tagged to something real. How does it look, how does it feel? These sorts of things. That's why the best way to teach kids math is using like little magnets or numbers or physical items. And the same thing with like fractions or even algebra. You can teach if you're using to young child, if you're using physical items to demonstrate differences and numbers and then numbering of things versus just this is a one and One plus this sign is one. Because then now what they're memorizing is not the math, it's the visual pattern. We want the kids to take ownership of it and figure it out so that they can be an independent learner sooner. And so when we return to the hypnosis session, that sort of multi sensory simulation will occur inside of the hypnosis session. So inside the hypnosis session, let's say this person who has been a chainsmoker for all these years, while they're in that five year old inner child suggestible state. In the trance in which the subconscious mind becomes suggestible, the hypnotist will tell a story in which the person listening has a new identity. Has a new identity just from the words alone. And it's because they're thinking new things, they have different feelings about them, they suggest different actions being taken, therefore different outcome. And the identity that is then given to the person in this trance is something like, I am a non smoker, not I want to quit, I want to stop, I want to. Those are negations, okay? Those are negations. Those are all the things you don't want to do. Like one of the worst, one of the hardest ways to ever lose a single pound of unnecessary fat is I don't want to be fat. What did I just say? I just said because then five year olds have a hard time with, don't do that. And it's like, well, you're just talking about what I shouldn't be doing, but what should I be doing instead? You give me credit, doing it. This is every parents of young children's experience tell the kid not to do something. You're just telling them to do it. And then you think they're trying to aggravate you, but they may not actually get, well, what ought I be doing instead? Specific, precise instructions. They make a mess, they spill the piece, you know, don't do that. Rather that something like, let's now pick up the peas and put them in this little container where they go, it's precise, these peas over here. For those who come in a little bit late, I'm Joshua Weissick and we're almost about to teach Reframing 101 specifically with the steps and how you can do it yourself. But what I'm doing is explaining the hypnosis experience and why it works so well, so quick. What affirmations do is it's effectively a micro hypnosis session, a micro self hypnosis section session that you run in again and again. We What Scott would always do is say the things that you want to be real, like 15 times. That was his method taught in Reframing Brain and elsewhere in his work. But really it's the repetition that's key. And so in the sets of suggestions that you'll be given by your hypnotist that you're working with in the clinical environment, they will tell you the same thing in a bunch of different ways. They will, they will speak to. You'll use visuals and metaphors for the mind's eye to talk about how things sound in the mind's ear, how it smells to you, so to speak, metaphorically speaking for the mind's nose, right? The mind's eyes is not just the only thing that you have, you have the other senses. For your subconscious runs a simulation of it. The subconscious can't tell the real from the imagined. That's why when you're watching a movie and it's intense, you feel it in your body. Your subconscious mind, because you're in a trance, doesn't know the difference. You think it's happening to you. This is why romance novels have been so attractive for so many generations of women. The writing is so multisensory that they feel like it's actually happening and they're actually experiencing this affair in real life, physiologically in that trance like state. And many become addicted to that experience. Much in the same way that for men. Adult content, of course, and I mean adult. Wink wink, family show. The body thinks it's actually happening to them. The subconscious mind thinks it's real. And that's how all strange, let's call them tastes may develop with prolonged consumption of adult entertainment. Because you are telling your subconscious, this is what I like, okay? So then you begin to change that. You begin to move. You begin to evolve yourself and change. You're impoverishing yourself over and over and over. Stop impoverishing yourself. Kids. Wink wink. Now because of that experience, the subconscious mind with this hypothetical person goes, oh, I am, I'm a non smoker now. It's just who I am. They come out of the session new identity. They forget that there's a lighter in the car and that there's a pack of half filled pack of cigarettes in there. They just forget because I'm a non smoker now. What do I care? That it's the identity change and reframing to create them for yourself. This goes, it goes like this. And hold it right up here for you so you can see it, okay? We're going to be working down this list here. So when you use new words to describe your experiences, you have new thoughts about them. Because what are thoughts but words? Frankly, if you have new words to describe your experiences, for example, I just want to lose weight. I want to stop being fat. For example, the words you're using inside of your brain are fat, fat, fat. I feel like a fat person and therefore I do things that result in me overeating as much as I want to use my willpower to stop. And then my outcome is I gain five pounds on this diet. Okay? If we use different words, an affirmation might be I first name, last name, and then you use the body mass index you're actually going for as your affirmation. Use different words. Well, if you use affirmations like that, what's going to happen is you're going to think over time and it can be a very short order that you're the type of person who is this body mass index and what does that person feel like? What are those thoughts feel like? Thoughts drive feelings. I love myself versus I hate myself. Just those words alone. Very different feelings, very different. So thoughts become feelings, feelings become actions. I just feel like doing it. Is every experience. Feelings go directly to actions. We buy on emotion, justify with logic. At no point is anything like logic happening here, okay? And that's okay because five year old remember, abstract metaphors, those sorts of things. We have to speak with precision. We have new outcomes, the things that we want, and these four stages after the words make up our identity. I want to quit smoking. I'm now thinking about smoking. I feel like it's harder to resist. I lose my willpower. I smoke and then now I have cancer. Okay, let's say that's, that's the lung cancer situation, right? From a smoker. I am a non smoker. I first name, last name. And a non smoker now in a hypnosis session that's skillfully implanted in the subconscious. But you can use Scott's 15 point affirmation experience to do this. And now you begin to think differently because now you're using different words to describe who you are and you feel differently and then you act differently and then you have different outcomes. Hypnosis sessions speed. Run this process into an hour and a half. Doing it yourself, it might take a little bit longer. I successfully was able to stop heavily drinking. I was like one of those craft beer millennial hipster types. Okay. I was able to successfully stop that with this model in very short order. As in like one night of Attempting this. It was December 31st and January 1st, 2022-2023. I did this in one night. I have some content on this. But this. This can work for a number of things that you want to achieve yourself. Use different words to describe how you feel and what you want to do. Use different words. Everything changes. So this is why it's so important to give yourself more than three colors. Any questions about this or anything else before we move?

Erica (27:22)

I fully. I love this so much. Words are so important, you guys. And, like, your conscious mind doesn't understand sarcasm. Like, it's very literal even. Like, I am always thinking in sarcasm, but I have to be careful because I know that my brain doesn't always understand the joke. So words matter. And the other word I almost never use is try. Like, well, I'll try to lose weight or I'm gonna try to go to the gym. That's just giving yourself permission not to do it. So to say, like, I'm gonna try not to smoke. Well, you just gave yourself permission to still smoke. So I. I. Yeah, yeah.

Joshua Lysik (28:02)

Or I want to.

Erica (28:04)

Right?

Joshua Lysik (28:05)

I want to do something. So then I don't know why I zoomed out like that. So. Oh, yeah, you can see the cool little. Cool little kids dartboard back there.

Owen Gregorian (28:12)

Very cool.

Erica (28:13)

That's because Owen popped on.

Joshua Lysik (28:14)

Oh, okay. So this. This is where I. I'll leave. I'll leave you all with. And then I have to scoot. If you want something, the words you use to describe that want are so significant, because if you say, I want this, well, then to succeed at it is what Is to just keep wanting it. It's not actually to have it. Now, if you are using identity language, like become or be or am, those to be, source of verbs. Those describe identity. It looks like about 3,000 people have joined since I kind of started my spiel on reframing. We're talking about Reframing 101. I'm Joshua Lysek there. Rumal needs to add the names on this so we can know who we are. Erica, the lovely hostess here. Yes. So using different words to describe what it is that you want in the language of having an identity. New words, different thoughts, different feelings, different actions, different outcomes. And that's how reframing works. Imagine you have a fourth color in that native language of this. This very California Indian tribe. They now have new thoughts every time they see that color or even hypothetically, they now have some new feelings associated with that realization. Just, they act differently. So maybe as they create dyes from it and the different outcomes where now they have unimpoverished their culture's color experience.

Erica (29:46)

Yeah.

Joshua Lysik (29:48)

Any questions from anyone else who's here with us or shall I bid farewell for today?

Erica (29:53)

Well, I just want to say thank you first of all. And I want to laugh because, you know, the reframes work, you guys. So just behind the curtain, as Scott would say, all of us here on the screen had dinner together in San Francisco area when we went to Scott's memorial service. And it was just so funny because the waiter came over and was like, oh, does anybody want a drink? And you know, we're all kind of like looking around and nobody wanted a drink. But after the waiter left and I was like, were you all just thinking like, alcohol is poison? And like, nobody wanted to be like the one to be like, I'll have a drink? We were all like, nope, alcohol is poison. We don't want to drink. But that reframe just sticks with you. And it was just a really funny moment where we just started laughing. But yeah, your words matter.

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And this follows that exact process here. So if you say alcohol is adult beverage or it's alcohol is fun, then you think about fun things and fun experiences.

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Joshua Lysik (31:55)

You feel like having fun. You take the action. The outcome is a hangover. Or let's say cirrhosis of the liver.

Owen Gregorian (32:03)

Or you have fun.

Joshua Lysik (32:04)

Poison. I now think about poisons like other poisons, like those blue frogs in South America. I feel like avoiding those blue frogs and never touching one, never being a situation where I'm near one. I am now acting as if beer is a poisonous blue frog from South America. Keep it behind glass, don't even touch it. That's how this works. And you can do this for yourself in any area of your life.

Owen Gregorian (32:31)

So the one thing I threw in as a technologist is I have played with this with like AI, like Grok, where I've said, you know, give me a reframe for this. And it seems to do a halfway decent job with it without too much guidance. And with all the stuff you just gave us, it seems like a set of rules that you can teach a GPT or a GROK to do and maybe be able to just feed it. Here's my current frame. Give me the reframe. Maybe tell it what outcome you're looking for or something. Have you tried that or do you think that would work?

Joshua Lysik (33:02)

I have, yes. And I think what it's. It will try to be sophisticated. What you need to focus on is what is the outcome that you want. Not give me a usual frame versus reframe style Scott Adams formula. It doesn't quite figure that out. If you explain Grok. Here's how reframing works. The outcome that I want is this. How I currently think about it is this. Give it the words used to think about and explain the process of the outcome. What words? Give me a new identity set that result in a new outcome and then say, follow the usual frame versus reframe formula, usual frame, the usual words you're currently using. Now give me the reframe with different words following this process. And I believe that that will get you there. And with that, I have the scoot for today. But first I'll give one question. Marcella has one question for a scooter.

Sergio (33:53)

There's like several questions that baby will ask you off, you know, yes, at.

Joshua Lysik (33:59)

Me on X or. Or just DM me directly Josh Lesik. If. If you have any questions about this and make sure you take your screenshot of it right now. There it is. There you are. A couple of you taking a screenshot. Yeah, there you go.

Erica (34:11)

Even better, you guys, screenshot good. Yeah, you guys, even better. Homework assignment. If those who want to participate create a reframe using what Joshua taught you today and tag Joshua, like make a post about it and say this current thought. And this is how I came to a reframe. And he'll look them over and let you know. Like I think that's a good practice. And don't, don't have embarrassment. Remember this is like a non embarrassment zone. Okay. Just give it a try and then maybe you're going to get pointers from an expert and that would be amazing. We'd love to see it.

Joshua Lysik (34:49)

That's right. That's right. And lastly, the key, the homework again, as Erica is saying, is your usual frame versus reframe. The usual frame is the thing that you're thinking and kind of stuck on. And then the reframe are the new words that create the identity set, resulting in a new outcome. And it's like usual frame, I want to stop smoking, reframe. I'm a non smoker, for example. As an example, that wouldn't be necessarily one that you would teach other people, but it would be one for you, for your hypnosis experience. And what does a non smoker think about because of that? Well, they don't think about smoking. They think about doing other things with their time when need a break. Right. They go on a walk instead of just standing outside in the cold smoking a joint. Right. Or whatever you smoke with to do feelings and actions and outcomes associated with that Hypnosis speed runs that process, but affirmations are a way of reframing yourself.

Erica (35:44)

Yeah. Thank you, Joshua.

Joshua Lysik (35:46)

It's my pleasure. Thank you all.

Erica (35:48)

And again, we'll talk to you soon.

Joshua Lysik (35:50)

Get your homework. Oshualising. Oh, next. Take care.

Erica (35:53)

We'll post your link. Okay, he had to run dad duty. He is a busy, busy guy. So we appreciate him coming on here you guys. So we're gonna shift to some news and Owen has picked out some great stories for us to talk about. And don't you guys love Sergio's new background and Owen's new background? We look, we look extra super smart, but you know, so. Oh, go ahead. What do you have for us?

Owen Gregorian (36:20)

Well, speaking of embarrassment free zone. I think we can start with the story that some people requested we talk about. Doctors found a live World War I artillery shell in a man's rectum in France. 24 year old man sparked an evacuation in a French hospital after they found an 8 inch long World War I artillery shell in his rectum.

Erica (36:42)

Rectum damn near killed him. Sorry, I had to say Owen.

Sergio (36:46)

How did it get there?

Owen Gregorian (36:49)

Well, I, I think they at least suspect that he put it there. I don't think they did speculate as to why. But you probably all have something in your mind about why he might have Done that. They, they, the media speculated it might have something to do with his social life, but that's as far as they went with that. They did.

Erica (37:07)

That's good to know.

Owen Gregorian (37:08)

The medical staff are accustomed to treating victims injured during sexual games, so it could be something along those lines. What do you think? You think?

Gracie (37:16)

I just, I just imagine the, the bomb defusing guy, you know, like they call him up, it's like, hey, we have a bomb. We have like a possible explosion. We need you to come over. And they're on the way, you know, like, oh, I'm so excited. My first day on the job. And they were like, well, good news is that, you know, it's not a bigger bomb, but you know what it is. You know, that would be a big surprise for me if I had to like go in there and retrieve a bomb from, from a rectum, you know. So.

Owen Gregorian (37:45)

Yeah. Do you think the bomb sniffing dog could have found it? That's a good one.

Erica (37:51)

Maybe. I like the way Sergio says it. Rectum.

Gracie (37:57)

Yes. Yeah.

Erica (37:59)

It makes it sound better.

Gracie (38:02)

Does this microphone work? Well, people? Because they have a new microphone.

Owen Gregorian (38:06)

Yeah. Yeah. All right, all right, moving on. This is a story that actually seemed to have gone viral when I posted it. Nearly 40 of Stanford undergraduates claim they're disabled. The article was actually written by somebody who was one of those people. They explained that they actually do have, I think it was like endometriosis or something, some real condition. But the person's explaining that it's, you know, it's almost half the people in Stanford do that. And the reason this person claimed their disability at Stanford was that they discovered from someone else that if you did say you were disabled, you could get your own dorm room and have a single room and you could have the nicest building on campus and you could get extra time on your tests and you could get exempted from some of the academic requirements and get basically the first class easy mode treatment by just saying you're disabled. And so, you know, that's currently 2,850 students out of 7,500 at Stanford that get all these accommodations and things.

Sergio (39:14)

I'm not surprised on. I used to tutor. Not anymore, but like for Ivy League school, high school, like different people that went to Ivy League schools. One of the things they told me for the SAT is that they would have a doctor say they're disabled because that would give them more time in order to. So all of these people who went to Harvard who I helped tutor would, would let me know that they had, like.

Joshua Lysik (39:52)

So.

Sergio (39:58)

For my perspective, they already had those for test purposes.

Owen Gregorian (40:04)

Yeah. I mean, it could be. And it does say in the article that a lot of these are mental conditions, probably most of them, like ADHD or anxiety. And those are things that are really hard to diagnose or maybe too easy to diagnose. I've certainly had some experience knowing that people can just literally walk into a regular doctor, not like a psychiatrist or any specialist, and just say, I have trouble focusing, you know, and that's about all it takes to get prescribed ADHD drugs. And it's pretty amazing how easy it is to get Ritalin or, you know, whatever it is you're looking for. And that's, you know, that's probably enough for a lot of these colleges. You know, there are more sophisticated tests, and I know some people who have gone through that process to actually get diagnosed by a specialist, and they. It is a rigorous process. I'm aware of what that consists of. And so you could have, like, a, you know, a test that shows how you do on a test when you have a time limit versus when you don't have a time limit. And, you know, there are ways to pinpoint what the issue is mentally, but a lot of people don't even go through all that. And I think these disability agencies, I guess I'll call them at these colleges, I think, also have an incentive to just hand out these accommodations. Like, I don't think they're very rigorous in saying you need proof from a doctor or you need some test or some process, you have to go through that. The way they would put it is we're here to help people, so we're just trying to help people. But I think the reality is also that if you just look at it from an incentives perspective, as Scott often does, the more disabled people they're, quote, unquote, helping, the more of those disability people you need, and the bigger the department grows and the more money they get. Right?

Erica (41:52)

Yeah.

Owen Gregorian (41:52)

So always go to 40% of the campus. Suddenly you're a massive agency that needs lots of resources, and everything ends up catering to all these kids that have these.

Gracie (42:03)

I thought, like, half of the college students were already mentally disabled anyways. You know, just by.

Owen Gregorian (42:09)

Well, I mean, we can. We can connect this story to that other story that says something like half of liberal people say they have a mental health issue. Right. A massive percentage of them say that. And this could be a factor in that they might be doing that because it gives them an advantage. Right?

Erica (42:27)

That's right.

Owen Gregorian (42:30)

So pretty Amazing. Kind of a scandal. You know, I don't know what should be done about it other than that. I would say that it's pretty terrible because I think it takes away resources from the people who do have legitimate disabilities. You know, there are people that do have mental disabilities or physical disabilities that do require accommodations to put them on an even playing field with everyone else. But if you give it to everybody, then you're not making it an even playing field. And you're also kind of neutering the educational process to the point where what happens to these kids when they get out in the real world and they get a job? Employers don't give accommodations for things like this. I mean, they do have to abide by the Disabilities act, but I think in most cases, you know, they're not going to be as liberal or as easy as giving these things out. And if you can't do the job because you've never been put under time pressure or you've never had to meet a deadline, then how are you going to do that in real life?

Erica (43:25)

Right.

Owen Gregorian (43:26)

Kind of a real open question in my mind.

Erica (43:30)

Yeah, I agree. So between the Chinese students and then the disabled students, like, you know, there's always one group getting shafted.

Sergio (43:38)

You know, I have to say the sad part is that when I was tutoring, not the very rich, but just like middle class kids, they actually did have disabilities, but their parents weren't aware of, of these accommodations they could get, and so they would not get them. So it's sad to see that because that's a lot of us. Like, I didn't even know you could get that for like the bar exam. I would have liked to have had more time doing my bar exam or the SAT or something else, but it wasn't known to us. It was like only the very, like, elite know the system and they know how to work it. And I don't disagree. Like, they're smart about it, you know, but it doesn't, it doesn't like, apply to everybody that has these disabilities.

Joshua Lysik (44:36)

Right.

Owen Gregorian (44:39)

All right, all right. Well, moving into the AI is taking over the world theme that we often come back to. There's an interesting article I posted called your job isn't disappearing, it's shrinking around you in real time. And it's an interesting article. I'd suggest you read it. It's kind of long, but I think it's worth it. And the reason I say that is that it kind of walks through what's happening, I think. And it also talks about how to best Deal with it. Because I think the first thing that I thought was valuable is it goes through the like, three approaches I think they used that were, that don't work. And some of those are probably the things everyone's thinking they need to do. Like, well, maybe I need to focus on soft skills, or maybe I need to, you know, like, try to figure out what's the human part of my job, or, you know, maybe I can double down on my strengths or things like that. And those things generally don't work because the AI agents and AI is kind of rapidly taking over a lot of those things. And it's not really going to help you to just retreat into one little part of your job. And I think the advice it gives you, and I don't know if this is going to work or not, but it does seem like a better idea to me is that to sort of win under this scenario, what you can do is to say, build a new role where you're the orchestrator of the AI and you're using the AI to get to like impossible scale. Like an example they use is running 50 campaign marketing campaigns at once. And so if you can identify something that, like where he suggests to start is to say if you can identify something that if you could do ten times as much of it, it would be really valuable to do that. But up until now, without AI, you can only do a certain amount of it, but you're limited in terms of how much you can do that. If you can figure out how to use AI to 10x that task, then you can figure out how to scale it and have massive results, right? And find the patterns and then pitch those new capabilities to your boss and say, hey, I can do ten times as much. Now look what I could do. I can add all this value by using AI to do this new task where I'm running the AI, But I'm able to orchestrate all these agents and use them to scale what I'm doing to something that previously was impossible. And that would be one way of kind of mastering the AI as opposed to just having your job disappear. What do you guys think?