The Scott Adams School

Summary

Podcast Summary: Real Coffee with Scott Adams

Episode: The Scott Adams School
Date: May 18, 2026
Host: Erica (with Marcella & Owen, in tribute to Scott Adams)
Theme: Analyzing current events and politics through a “persuasion filter,” exploring media narratives, political power shifts, and society’s changing landscape with wit and skepticism.

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Episode Overview

This lively episode continues the tradition set by Scott Adams, dissecting the week’s events through critical thinking, satire, and a focus on persuasion dynamics. With Owen and Marcella, Erica steers the discussion through political intrigue, media oddities, tech vs. humanity moments, and the powerful effect of narrative in public life. The team reflects Scott’s legacy of questioning authority, decoding media tactics, and celebrating intellectual independence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Animal Story Opener: “Punch Monkey” and the Power of Virality

[03:13 – 06:39]

• Punch Monkey’s Zoo Incident: Viral story recounts an animal enclosure breach in Japan, with a “crypto promoter” antagonizing the macaques, causing panic among the animals and leading to the perpetrator’s arrest.
  • Erica: “Public execution would be fine. Simple.” [06:06]
  • Owen: Notes the upside—more attention to the animals and increased zoo tourism.
• Insight: Reflects on the weird attention economies created by online stunts, animal personalities, and the blurred line between news and spectacle.

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2. Can Robots Replace Human Workers?

[07:01 – 10:05]

• Humanoid Robotics Competition:
  • Marcella describes the viral “figure robot vs. human” package-sorting challenge — the human wins, but the robot works four days non-stop without breaks.
  • Owen’s skepticism: “I…think it’s great PR…ultimately, I’m sure the robots will be able to do much better than the humans… They’re just trying to show what they can do.” [09:14]
• Perspective: The panel discusses optics versus reality in AI demonstrations. Erica doubts human labor’s long-term security despite PR stunts.

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3. Persuasion, Media, and “Woke” Journalism

Katie Couric’s Moral Quandaries & “The Ballroom”
[11:04 – 15:16]

• Discussing a Katie Couric interview about journalism during the Trump era.
  • Couric: “It is very difficult to kind of do those…moral equivalencies when you feel like one side…is really wrong.” [11:31]
  • Emily Jinsky’s media criticism: “Nobody has asked for [two hours] of Katie Couric since 1999…” [11:05]
• Panel Reaction:
  • Owen: “I think they are professional gaslighters, and that’s exactly what's going on here. They’re just doing whatever they can to try and catch Trump in something.” [14:50]
  • Marcella draws parallels with international journalists who face real danger, criticizing the self-importance of US media figures.

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4. Billionaires, Politics, and Unintended Consequences

[16:26 – 17:19]

• Owen notes: Californian billionaires who supported progressive policies now face new taxes and are fleeing the state—a classic case of political chickens coming home to roost.
  • Owen: “They’re realizing…they’ve been pushing this socialist…ideology for so long, and now they’re coming after them to tax them and take their wealth…they’re reaping their reward.” [16:26]

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5. Media Performances & Subtext: Comey’s “Coded” Message

[18:52 – 22:09]

• Comey’s Subdued Demeanor & Messaging:
  • Erica: “Everything he says is, like, coded language to the people who…are in these agencies.”
  • Comey (clip): “I have great confidence in the people down below…hang on two and a half years…” [18:52]
  • Owen: Argues Comey is “trying to essentially do witness tampering…He’s facing these charges and trying to get out of them.” [20:57]
  • Marcella agrees on the “deep state” wink-wink messaging.

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6. Russia Collusion, Investigations, and Slow Justice

Maria Bartiromo & Todd Blanche on Delays
[22:24 – 27:18]

• Ongoing Frustration: The Bartiromo interview highlights the delays in charging individuals over the Russia collusion hoax.
  • Maria: “I don’t know what is not ready…I mean, you know, we’ve been watching this play out for a long time…weaponization keeps happening because it’s not corrected…” [23:20]
  • Erica: “Is this normal?...Nothing’s slower than our judicial system.” [25:12]
  • Marcella (legal analysis): Large, political cases take time, but “times ticking.”

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7. Trump’s “Hostile Takeover” of the GOP — Primary Battles

Louisiana, Cassidy, Massie, and Campaign Influence
[28:48 – 43:55]

• Louisiana:
  • Marcella covers Bill Cassidy’s defeat in the GOP primary after voting to impeach Trump. Cassidy finished third, replaced by a Trump-aligned candidate.
  • Owen: “I consider that what [Trump] did…he didn’t become a Republican. He took over the Republican Party…” [31:38]
• Kentucky—Thomas Massie’s Primary:
  • An expensive race with pro-Israel PAC money backing challenger Ed Gallerain, raising questions about outside influence and the consent of actual voters.
  • Marcella: “If Massey loses…every Congress member will be cowered into fear. If he wins, it’s a new media era.” [35:04]
  • Owen warns of possible dirty tricks (last-minute harassment allegations) and the dangers of foreign/corporate money—“it just doesn’t smell right to me.” [41:43]
  • Erica: “We always complain about foreign money…Look at George Soros… I just want Americans to have the actual say in what happens in America.” [40:21]
  • Encourages listeners to check cognitive dissonance and not accept smears only because they support a preferred outcome.

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8. Election Integrity & Legal System Debate

Tina Peters’ Case: State vs Federal
[46:07 – 52:39]

• Owen: Celebrates Tina Peters (CO) getting early release after an election integrity case. He argues the charges should have been federal due to federal candidates on the ballot.
• Marcella (legal dissent): “She was prosecuted for breaking Colorado law…not federal crimes. We can respectfully disagree on that.” [49:54]
• Panel discusses how technicalities, procedural errors, and jurisdiction shape political prosecutions.

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9. Supreme Court & Redistricting

[52:39 – 55:32]

• Virginia’s Democratic Party Lawfare Fails:
  • Marcella explains why SCOTUS refused to intervene in Virginia’s redistricting fight — precedent is to defer to state supreme courts unless federal law is breached.
  • Owen snarks: “Hakeem Jeffries…was saying, oh, you know, they’re a bunch of right wing extremists. So he was essentially calling Ketanji Brown Jackson a right wing extremist.” [53:28]
  • Erica reflects on the manipulation of judicial retirement ages and the perils of hasty lawmaking.

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10. Signs of Hope: Science Update

[56:48 – 58:51]

• Breakthroughs in Health:
  • Owen shares promising science headlines:
    • Stroke damage reversed in mice using stem cells.
    • Old blood cells rejuvenated with new techniques.
    • Memory loss reversed by “recharging” mitochondria.
  • Stem cells often sourced from the individual themselves.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Tastes like Russian interference. And by that I mean spicy.”
  — Scott Adams (Simultaneous Sip legacy), [00:52]
• On journalism’s posturing:
  “These woke journalists are so broken…” — Erica [10:41]
• On Comey:
  “I think it’s probably trying to essentially do witness tampering…” — Owen [20:57]
• On political turnover:
  “He took over the Republican party… these are not loyal to Trump, not loyal to MAGA…they should get out.” — Owen [31:38]
• On foreign influence:
  “I just want Americans to have the actual say…get your money out of our country.” — Erica [40:21]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [03:13] – Animal Story: Punch Monkey and viral animal advocacy
• [07:01] – Robot vs. Human in package sorting: Tech PR vs reality
• [11:04] – Katie Couric’s “moral journalism” & media gaslighting
• [18:52] – Comey's coded messages and deep state speculation
• [22:24] – Maria Bartiromo/Todd Blanche on Russia-gate investigation delays
• [28:48] – Trump purges anti-MAGA GOP members—Cassidy's loss
• [34:16] – Kentucky House race: Massie v. Gallerain, influence of outside money
• [46:07] – Tina Peters’ election fraud prosecution (state vs federal law debate)
• [52:39] – SCOTUS denies VA Democrats; redistricting procedural win for GOP
• [56:48] – Science Updates: stem cell and anti-aging breakthroughs

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Episode Tone

• Language: Blunt, humorous, sometimes caustic; rife with inside jokes and cultural references.
• Atmosphere: Assertively skeptical, refusing to take mainstream narratives at face value. Loyal to Scott Adams’s style of layered analysis and meta-commentary.

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Closing Notes

The episode concludes with gratitude for Scott and Shelly, a reaffirmation of the podcast’s purpose (to question, to debate, to hold power to account), and a reminder that the real fight is for the people to have control—resisting both narrative manipulation and oligarchic overreach. The traditional “Simultaneous Sip” closes the show, celebrating Scott’s enduring influence.

Transcript

[Marcella]

Start painter, are you back?

[Erica]

Good morning, everyone. Here comes Owen. I just saw him running through the door. Let's get him to run in here. Here he comes. Okay. Good morning. Good morning, Owen. We are live on this gorgeous Monday on the Jersey shore. Anyway, I don't know about where you are, but.

[Marcella]

Gordon,

[Owen]

right?

[Marcella]

It's actually cloudy here. Very cloudy in California.

[Erica]

Unusual. Okay, let's see. I'm finding my clip because I have not had a sip yet. I've been waiting to have a sip with everybody. Marcel, are you waiting? All right, good. I can see Owen has a cup. Okay, let's do it, you guys.

[Scott Adams]

On days like this, when you start them with a simultaneous sip, well, what could go wrong? Nothing. Nothing. And all you need for the simultaneous sip is a cup or a mug or a glass, a tank or chalice or stein, a canteen, jug or flask, a vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite beverage. I like coffee. And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the dopamine. Today, the thing that makes everything better, the simultaneous sip. Go. Tastes like Russian interference. And by that I mean spicy.

[Erica]

Oh, interesting he should say that. Maybe we'll talk a little bit about that later.

[Marcella]

All right.

[Erica]

Good morning, everybody. You are at the Scott Adams School. My name is Erica. I'm here with my favorite people, Marcella and Owen. And we're here to kick off another week of current events and news and nonsense and then hopefully some amazing lessons. And on Thursday, let's remember, we are lucky to have Gad Sad coming in. He just wrote a new book called Suicidal Empathy and a very important book. And. Oh, and if. If I saw correctly, I think you're going to be doing your next book review of Suicidal Empathy for your subscribers.

[Owen]

Yeah, we. We go through discussing different books on our Sunday subscriber spaces. So for the people who subscribe to me on X, we choose different books to go through. And the next one we chose was Suicidal. Be starting to talk about that this Sunday.

[Erica]

That's awesome. So Thursday, you guys will be like a little precursor. And you're gonna want more. You're gonna want more of that book and that dialogue. So you can subscribe to Owen on X and join in the fun. Okay. Did you guys have a good weekend? Owen and Marcella, I just. We haven't touched base with you. I hope you guys are good.

[Marcella]

Yeah, good.

[Owen]

It was a good weekend.

[Marcella]

Was it a good weekend, Owen?

[Owen]

Yeah, it was good. Relaxing.

[Erica]

Marcellus does that like she knows something.

[Marcella]

I love doing that.

[Erica]

I don't know anything about, like, so lawyer. Was it Owen?

[Marcella]

Was it?

[Erica]

I hope everybody in the chat on YouTube, X, Locals, Rumble, Spotify. I hope you guys also had a great weekend. We have Memorial Day weekend coming up, okay? So let's get into it. So, you guys, I'm sorry, not sorry, but we have. Owen posted a story today about my little beloved baby, Punch Monkey. And I have two videos, and that will satisfy me for the animal story plus a story. So. So first. Oh, and I have the clip of this jerk that climbed over the barrier. I'll. I'll show you. Here's. Here's a quick clip. Guys, this is in Japan. Do you know Punch Monkey? You will know. This is a jerk right here. He climbed over. Yep. The poor macaques are like, what the heck? And then, you guys, my little baby, Punchy, he was so scared, and he jumped on the back of his bestie Momo. He's got. He's got, like, a cute little tribe. He's like a darker, furry one. You'll see him. Here we go. The poor thing. That's Punchy getting hugged. He's like, why all the chaos? I'm so scared. He's like, I'll hit your ride to the top of the Monkey Mountain.

[Marcella]

I don't know how you can tell this, you know? Like, how can they tell? I guess the size. His size.

[Erica]

His size. His color. And I swear he's got, like, this amazing little charisma to him. Or as the kids say, the wrist. Okay. Then he sees his dad. He's like, oh, thank God. He hitches a ride. He's like, that was really scary. And then he takes him inside to just calm down. Oh, yeah.

[Marcella]

Money they're making, right?

[Erica]

All right. Oh, and what happened?

[Owen]

Well, I. I think these people seem to be promoting some kind of current cryptocurrency. So I don't know what project it is, and I wouldn't even want to promote it, but, um, they scaled the fences and went into the exhibit, and, you know, I don't know what he was trying to do exactly. Maybe he was hoping that his little crypto plushie would become Punch's best friend again or something. I'm not really sure what they had in mind, but. So, of course, all the monkeys panicked and went to the top of the mountain, and the zoo people came in and arrested them, or apprehended them, I should say, and then handed them over to police. So they have been arrested, and hopefully that'll never happen again. I guess the good part of it is just that you Know, it might bring more attention to Punch again. So I know there's been a lot more people visiting that zoo than ever before, so.

[Erica]

Oh yeah, yeah. There's people that go like several times and from out of the country just to see them. Public execution would be fine. Simple.

[Marcella]

I think that the monkeys didn't attack the man because monkeys are pretty strong, you know, so regardless of how cute they look, you know.

[Erica]

Yeah. I think they were more freaked out, which is just sad because they're already, you know, in, in an enclosure and then to be like, oh my God. But anyway, so Owen, stay on that beat. Would you let us know if they go to jail?

[Owen]

I'm watching.

[Erica]

I'm very, I'm very invested in Punch monkey. Okay, so let me just clear that so I don't mess myself up. All right, Marcella, you. Oh, you had a story. And I personally found this clip to go with. Tell us about the. Are we in trouble with robots with our jobs or what?

[Marcella]

Not yet. So there was figure. I, I think you've probably, if you've been on X, you've probably seen. There's been basically 24 hours live showing of the figure robot doing sorting packages. It's weird. He looks at them and he kind of like touches them and keeps it going. So yesterday, this is the fourth day they were gonna. He's been working this whole conveyor belt line for four days now without stopping. The robot has. And now they put a human next to him. You'll see. Erica will show you the human. But I just, you know, that is the human they picked to go against the robot. And at the end of, I think it was 10 hour package sorting, the human won. He sorted more packages, about 200 more packages than the robot did. So.

[Erica]

But the robot's also been working non stop for four days with no breaks. No breaks. Doesn't have to go to the bathroom. Great.

[Marcella]

And on top of that, you'll see who the human is. There's a T shirt that tells you which one is who. Like, okay, Would have figured that out.

[Erica]

Okay, good. Thank God. Okay, so this was posted by the account coin bureau. Coin bureau on X. Okay, let's take a look. Oh, I see. He's the human on the left. Thank God.

[Marcella]

Well, where he's off the human.

[Erica]

So it's interesting how the robot puts all the labels facing down so it can. They can be scanned. But it is weird. His motions are like humany, how he looks and pushes.

[Marcella]

He kind of looks at these packages like.

[Erica]

Yeah, he has to find the labeling

[Marcella]

all these fat things. Yeah.

[Erica]

He finds the label and faces it down. All right, well, good job, humans. Now try doing that without peeing, eating, getting on your phone, going to bed or anything else. Okay, so we're, we're still safe for now is, I don't think so, but

[Owen]

I, I, I think it's great pr maybe for the robots, but you know, ultimately I'm sure the robots will be able to do much better than the humans. In fact, I would say it's kind of weir. They're even using a humanoid robot because you would probably think they could build some machine that could do it 10 times faster for that type of task. But you know, I think that's probably not the point. The point is probably just trying to show a similar type of task between a human and a robot to try and show what they can do. But I'm pretty sure it's going to be, you know, even that human, I'm guessing might have been part of the robotics company.

[Erica]

Yes, I'm sure. Yeah. It wasn't like some guy off the street. But I think you're right. I mean they already have, they already have robots that can sort packages really fast. But that's just showing you. Yes. Like look how far our humanoids have come. Okay, so to that I say.

[Marcella]

She'll be replaced by a robot too.

[Erica]

Yes. Oh my God. So the other thing I just thought was funny that you guys haven't seen this. It's not really like a story story, but I just wanted to do a couple quick things first and then I'm going to kick back, put my feet up. So anyway, Emily Jinsky, my girl, she has a show. Oh. Called the Afterparty and she was playing a clip. I'm gonna play a clip of her playing a clip with Katie Kirk talking to Trevor Noah. And it's just one little snippet. But I was like, oh my God, like these woke journalists have, are so broken. But let's just, just, let's just, oh, let's just have a little fun watching Katie Courk. And she sounds an awful lot in my opinion, like those Miley Cyrus videos of Miley's voice where they have like Miley and a frog talking. But anyway, that's a totally separate side issue. If you know, you know. Okay, let's take a lesson.

[Emily Jinsky]

This clip of Katie Kirk and when I say clip, it's a clip of a two hour interview that Katie Kirk did with Trevor Noah on Thursday. Two hours of Katie Couric. Nobody has asked for that since 1999, roughly. So let's go ahead and bring in Katie Kirk for some thoughts on what it's like to cover the moral quandaries journalists face as they cover the Trump administration.

[Marcella]

Here we go.

[Katie Couric]

It is very difficult to kind of do those, you know, moral equivalencies when you feel like one side of the ledger is really wrong. It's not two different perspectives on policy. Like, how do you solve the homeless problem? Right. It is a way of doing business that feels wrong and unjust.

[Marcella]

Yeah.

[Katie Couric]

You know, building of what, 400 million dollar ballroom that is going to eclipse the White House without going through the proper, you know, process of getting permission. That's where it's. It's become really difficult and challenging, I think, for a journalist.

[Emily Jinsky]

I mean, I love that the example off the top of her head was the ballroom. The ballroom. There's a lot to work.

[Erica]

Me too. Love that so much. And then Emily goes on to talk about other things. Like, if she really wanted to get down into the nitty gritty, there's a host of things you could talk about. But it's so crazy. Like, these poor journalists are trying to, you know, figure out how to take the high ground. So, Owen, what do you. What do you think? Do you feel bad for her?

[Owen]

No, not. Not even a little bit.

[Marcella]

Oh, really?

[Erica]

Yeah, I know. So. And this ballroom is, like, breaking the brains of everybody. I just. I don't get it. Marcella, any thoughts on Katie Couric?

[Marcella]

And she has the hand movements of Gavin. She's like, yeah, what is this? Like a robot? I don't know. The way that she acts is like, they truly believe their own lies. Like, she was like, oh, the journalists are having such a hard time. And there's like, journal is in other parts of the world. They're being killed just for reporting something. And here she is talking about it as if she's gone through war and all sorts of things that are. Nothing's happening to them.

[Erica]

And don't you wish you could be like, okay, so you're upset because there's a ballroom being built while there are homeless people. But other things, like, if she really. Why do I.

[Owen]

Sorry about that.

[Erica]

Oh, I was like, what is that? And I'm like, thinking, well, what do you want him to do? So, like, maybe go talk to your buddy Gavin Newsome about the homeless problem. Problem, which is actually a drug problem. And what should we do, Katie? Not build a ballroom because there's homeless people in different states that are hooked on drugs. I just don't understand. So I. It's just so funny. And. And you know what? I tried to do this. I was watching her. Everybody try this at home. Okay, you don't have to do it right now, but just try. The way she's, like, telling her story and, like, smiling as she says it is so wacky because it doesn't go together. It's like, almost psychotic because I was literally. Repeat what she was saying. I was looking. I have a mirror over here. I was literally looking at the mirror and trying to smile while saying those things. And I'm like, it just doesn't work. I feel like a lunatic. So that. I don't know. That was my. My rant. That was.

[Owen]

I think they are professional gaslighters, and that's exactly what's going on here. They're just doing whatever they can to. To try and catch Trump and something that he did wrong. And it seems like they've chosen the ballroom, which is kind of a stupid one, but, you know, that's what they have chosen to say. Oh, he didn't follow the process. And they know fully well that if he did follow whatever process, it would have ended up exactly the same. It just would have taken years longer and cost five times as much.

[Erica]

Yeah.

[Owen]

And so they're just upset because he's not doing it their way. And it's, you know, it's. Even. That isn't genuine because really what they're just trying to do is obstruct everything he's trying to do. Whatever Trump wants to happen, they want to stop it however they can. And so, you know, they're trying to say, oh, he's the bad guy. He's not following the process. But in reality, they're just saying, you got to play by our rules so we can stop you every step of the way. And they're upset because he's not playing the rules. Playing the game by their rules. That's what it is.

[Erica]

But I hear interviews like this or. And I don't know why Jake Tapper is, like, usually the first person I think of, but it's like all the lies that they're perpetuating and that they're in on for money. You know, when everybody. When all the shit hits the fan and you're going to eat Z bugs, they're not going to be exempt from that. No one's going to be like, hey, Klaus Schwab, make sure we bring Jake Tapper and Jennifer Aniston with us. Because, you know, it's like you guys are eating the bugs, too, you know, so it's like kind of a gross thing. I don't know that. I just. I just watch that. I watch that, and I think of that.

[Owen]

I think that's what's happening to the billionaires in California right now. They're realizing, you know, they've been pushing this socialist, communist sort of idea ideology for so long, and now they're coming after them to tax them and take their wealth, and they're like, hey, wait a second. That wasn't supposed to happen. Why? Why are you coming after me? And now they're all fleeing California.

[Erica]

Yeah.

[Owen]

Not realizing that they were the ones that were pushing all these narratives and making sure that they were censoring all the people on the other side. And now they're reaping their reward.

[Erica]

And, Don Lemon, no one's taking you anywhere, so suck it. Okay, so you might pick up on it. Oh, I don't think so. Maybe you. But I digress. Did you guys all see my picture of my kindergarten graduation?

[Marcella]

Oh, my gosh, you two are adorable.

[Erica]

That's me shaking hands with China. And look, there's Israel.

[Marcella]

It looks so cute back then. I know.

[Erica]

And those shoes are patent leather.

[Owen]

Are you representing America in that scenario?

[Erica]

I am. I'm just your basic American chick.

[Owen]

Yeah, that was the beginning of our downfall when you shook hands with China and started this whole process.

[Erica]

But on my birthday, he gave me the cutest transistor radio, and it was a panda bear. I can so see it in my mind's eye. And it had, like, a strap that you could hold it. I love that panda bear radio so much. All right, I have a panda bear video. I'm not going to play it. Don't worry. Okay, so I want to just get through the rest of my clips so I can hang with the chat today. But I do want to play. Oh, and you had a story. Well, let me play this clip first. Talk about another psychopath. Okay, again, the way Comey speaks, as if, like, I'm just really calm and sedated. And I learned if I talk this way, I can just never be caught on a lie detector, because I know how to make my pulse, like, zero. But this psycho, every time he speaks, every time he speaks, it's a dog whistle. And I've thought this for years. Everything he says is, like coded language to the people who. No, no. That are in these agencies. And I think all of you guys hear it, too. So let's just. Let's just listen to this psycho. We're going to talk about this story

[James Comey]

for A minute not looked at from the top level, the people running it. If you're bragging about forcing out career prosecutors and agents because the president doesn't like a lawful investigation they conducted, something is seriously broken at the top. But I have great confidence in the people down below who are just trying to hang on, and I'm urging them, hang on two and a half years, and then we can rebuild these institutions. But we need good people in those roles. America does.

[Katie Couric]

All right, Director Comey, let me turn to your.

[Erica]

Oh, hang on, hang on, guys. Two and a half years and then we can rebuild again. Marcella, does he. Do you think he's, like, eating Xanax? Is he drunk? Or is he just like a sociopath? That's your three choices. Go.

[Marcella]

He's all of the above. I don't know. I mean, I don't know what, what goes through his mind and why he did what he did with the. Russia, allegedly did with Russia collusion and then did this whole thing with his Instagram. I mean, what is he doing on Instagram anyways? And then he did this book based on the, the Instagram thing and Trump and all this. It's like TDS really gets into their head and completely lips rent free in there because he's like, Katie Kirk, like, he's like. Although he wasn't moving his hands.

[Erica]

No, he's very sedate. He's very sedated. Yeah, but don't you think that. Actually, I don't want to say. Don't you think, do you feel like when he's speaking that it's a message to the people that are in the deep state that are waiting for. For this Daddy?

[Marcella]

Sure.

[Erica]

Yeah, for sure.

[Marcella]

And he's indicated, he's also indicating a different interview that, that he still talks to people in the CIA and the FBI and that, you know, he's was basically saying, we'll wait two more years. Two more years until like, wink, wink.

[Erica]

He says, hang on. Oh, all right. Oh.

[Owen]

And I think the coded part of the message is that he's trying to make sure that people don't turn against him, that they're. He's trying to say if you just wait a couple years, this will all go away. And I think it's probably trying to essentially do witness tampering because a lot of the people he's talking to are the people that could testify against him about what he did. So to me, that's what's going on there, is he's facing these charges and he's trying to get out of them.

[Erica]

You would think he'd shut up right now, but. But he doesn't, interestingly enough. And, like, does he not have a lawyer that's like, hey, buddy, put the phone down, get off the interviews. I'm sure, Marcella, you'd advise, right?

[Marcella]

Yeah, I mean, but, you know, it me one, he's like the worst client ever. Besides, President Trump is also a very bad client, like, because they talk a lot. But I think. I think he knows something. Like you said, Erica and Owen, he knows something we don't. You know, he's obviously talking and he feels very confident when he does do that. So, you know, but then is part of the deep state.

[Erica]

Oh, yeah. So then. Oh, and you posted this story, too. So let's take it over here with the woman we call the Lips, Maria Bartiromo with Blanche. Let's listen to what they're talking about.

[Maria Bartiromo]

We're finding out some incredibly troubling things, and at some point, at the right time, that will be made public, and the American people will see exactly what happened to this administration and President Trump over the past decade.

[Todd Blanche]

Well, I mean, the country was ripped apart. We all know that. Half of the country said he colluded with Russia. The other half said, no, it didn't. I mean, it ripped the country apart. But you say when the time is right. When is the time right? When should we expect these. These charges of conspiracy?

[Maria Bartiromo]

Well, I mean, look, as has been publicly reported, the Southern District of Florida has an open criminal investigation that involves hundreds of subpoenas. It involves. Involves hundreds of witnesses. And so as far as timing and when we can expect it, we are working hard and we are working efficiently, but we are going to do it right. We are not going to rush something, rush something that shouldn't, that isn't ready. We're not going to reach a conclusion before our investigation is over. But I assure you, and I assure the American people that we are completely focused on it.

[Todd Blanche]

Okay, well, again, I don't know what is not ready. I mean, you know, we've been watching this play out for a long time, and viewers and, and people watching are frustrated because it just keeps happening. Weaponization keeps happening because it's not corrected the time before now.

[Erica]

Okay, I wish you all could see the comments on Locals anyway. Hysterical. Owen, since you posted up this story. So I agree with Maria and I love her frustration in these questions. What can you tell us about what they're talking about?

[Owen]

Well, I think it, again, has to do with all the Russia collusion hoax cases, whether It's Brennan or, you know, I don't know if Clapper's in there or if it is Comey or others that were all key players in this, that we're looking for indictments, we're looking for trials, we're looking for convictions. And to a lot of us, it seems very obvious that all the information's out there. I mean, we've had everything on the Mueller report and all that other stuff and basically showing that it was not happening. And we've also seen plenty of documents that seem to prove that it was all a hoax and it was all collusion to put this on. And so it does seem very obvious that we should be seeing these things happen. I understand, you know, not being a lawyer, maybe Marcela can chime in more, but I get that they might want to just get lots and lots of testimony and lots of lots of documents and whatever other evidence they need. But. And that can obviously take a lot of time and resources to do. But it does seem to me like we. We've had all the evidence we need for a long time. So I'd like this to move forward. And I don't want to wait until we get a lot of obstruction from Congress where they're going to start defunding things or who knows what they're going to try to do to stand in the way. And, you know, ultimately, if it takes long enough, it might be too long and we won't even see it before Trump's out of office. So I'd like this to move forward quickly.

[Erica]

Yeah, I mean, it is so frustrating. I don't know. I don't know where, like, if, like the other side, like the Russia Gate, comey side can, like, do push back and delay things this far. But it is very frustrating as, you know, people who watch this for a decade that we still have, like, we still don't have this, like, buttoned up or enough to just get the ball moving. And I know Marcela, like, it's like nothing slower than our judicial system. Oh, my gosh. Like, is this normal? I mean, what's your take on it? Your legal expert take?

[Marcella]

I imagine when they brought the other

[Emily Jinsky]

case

[Marcella]

before this one is my, my thinking is that Todd Blanche and. And I would have to be mind reading this theory, but they wanted to have him testify or talk in, you know, in this other case to see if they could get more information and then get him more evidence. You know, it does take a long time to put such a big case together. I do have to give him that And I, and Todd Blanche had just come, has just come on the job, and there's been previous people in that. Pam Bondi was there, and then before that, Trump wasn't in power. So it's a lot of work for, for Blanche to get together, put together. But I think he will, I mean, in no time in that interview that he said he wasn't going forward with it. I think he's, you know, we'll see. But I think he has times ticking.

[Erica]

So time's ticking and we are running out of patience on so many things. So. Oh, and anything else on that story that was, you know, it was a pretty, it's a, it's a pretty hot topic right now.

[Owen]

Well, the same story talked about rigging in the 2020 election. So that's still going on, too. They had a separate clip about that, but it was essentially Todd Blanche was saying there's a ton of evidence that the election was rigged. They have ongoing investigations in Arizona and Georgia, and they're looking into all these things. So it looks like, you know, Scott's prediction that maybe ultimately Trump's third act is to prove that the 2020 election was rigged might still be alive and it might still happen. We'll have to see what comes out of it. I certainly not overly optimistic about where that's going to go because it seems like the judiciary doesn't want to touch anything like that. So regardless of how far we go with the investigation, I guess I would just have to say it would have to be really damning, really obvious, really strong evidence for it to even be accepted as a case at the judicial level, because we saw what happened with Kerry Lake and a lot of other things where the judge literally just out of hand, just said, we're not even going to look at, you know, 20 out of 21 of your things, and we'll keep one just so we can say we did. And then we'll tell you that that one wasn't enough to change the result. And it's like they just totally rigged that trial. So, you know, I think in many cases, it seems like even, even at the Supreme Court level, they just don't want to touch these types of cases.

[Erica]

All right, well, fingers crossed, everybody. You know, we'll all keep an eye on it. You guys keep an eye on it. Let us know. Owen, Marcella, we always want your legal take on these things, too. All right, so, Marcella, I'm going to toss this to you for one of your stories and take us away.

[Marcella]

So Trump's revenge continues in Louisiana this time around tomorrow will be in Kentucky. And so incumbent Senator Bill Cassidy, who voted for Trump's impeachment in 2021, lost his Louisiana GOP primary. So this wasn't even the general election against the Democrats. This was just the primary. He was primaried out by both. He didn't even make second. He made third. Julia Letlow, the candidate that Trump supported, won. Then after that, John Fleming when came in second place and there was a clip somebody put on, I think I don't know which which of the, I think I don't know which who put it on. I, I'll look for it. Basically having Bill Cassidy talk about in 2023, talk about the, the election coming up and saying that Trump, there was no way that Trump could win again because he couldn't win in swing states and all that. So that was interesting. I wonder how Trump feels. I think we kind of got a feel for how he was feeling last night or two nights ago. This happened on Sunday. So I'm sorry, on Saturday. So on Saturday night, I believe he posted, Donald Trump posted something about having somebody run on against Bobert and in Colorado and having anybody come and send him a message that if they're running, he'll support them against this person. And he was angry about her and Rand Paul because they were supporting Tom Thomas Massie, who is also running, being primaried out by someone that Trump wants to basically. Trump wants to basically have him leave the House. So that's my next story. But I'll, I'll, I'll have Owen or Erica if you have anything to say about that.

[Erica]

I'm just saying I'm, my thought is like it's a new way for term limits. Just have president, you know, primary you out. I'm not sad to see I already forgot his name. Cassidy go. That's for sure. I'm like, what was his name? Yeah. So, you know, we'll see what happens. O and D, do you want to talk about Cassidy being gone at all? And he was messing with the Maha moms too, wasn't he?

[Owen]

I mean, I'm certainly not sorry to see him go. And I think, you know, to me it's just part of the hostile takeover that Trump did of the Republican Party in which I've said for many years that I consider that what he did, he didn't become a Republican. He took over the Republican Party and kind of saved them from basically not having much of a chance back in 2016. And since then, I think we saw certainly in this first term that he was fighting his own party. You know, he was fighting all of the people in Congress on his own side, and it took time to get rid of a lot of those people. He obviously fired a whole bunch of people. I think he's starting another round of firing now. In the current term, I'm seeing more headlines like that, that people are being replaced or asked to leave. And I think this is another round in Congress where the people who are not loyal to Trump, are not loyal to MAGA or whatever you want to call it, are being ejected. And I think Trump does have the. All the cards, as he likes to say. And so I think he. He does have a lot of influence. It may not work in every case. Like I said, you know, who knows what's going to happen with Thomas Massie or some of these others? But I think for the ones that were really anti Trump from the beginning, I think they should go. I don't think they should be part of this. They're disloyal to their party, and they're disloyal to their president, and they should get out. And I'm glad to see it happen. And I'm hoping more of it will happen, frankly, so that we can have a more unified Republican Party that'll actually get things done, because they'll be more on the same page in terms of what the agenda should be.

[Erica]

Oh, yeah, McCary's gone in the FDA. Yeah. You know, so I'm just like, with Cassidy, it was like, why go ahead and say that, you know, RFKJ can come in and then, you know, go against the people he wants, like Casey Means to be the director or not the director, but I forget what her title would be, but the, like, the Maha Moms. So that's, you know, make America healthy again. They are a huge part of Kennedy, you know, having his position with Trump. And they are also very much politically, you know, left and right. These are. These are, you know, moms and parents that care about the health and the future of their children, what they're putting into their bodies. You know, what are we doing? Are we, you know, engineering our food? Are we spraying our crops? Are they dropping ticks into the farms? Yes, they are. Thank you, Bill Gates. Allegedly. My opinion. Oh, my God, that was scary. So anyway, you know, and then to not, you know, I don't know. He needed to go because we obviously all have an agenda that we want to be healthy and move forward, so he had to go. Marcella, what was your. So your next story rolls into Tom Thomas Matthew.

[Marcella]

Yeah. So Thomas Massey is a primary is only a Republican primary. Only Republicans can vote. It's not an open primary, will be tomorrow starting at 6am to 6pm Eastern in Kentucky. And right now he's running against Ed. Oh, my gosh. Gal. Rhein.

[Erica]

Galerin. I don't know.

[Marcella]

Owen, help. I don't know. I don't know why. I always think Owen knows everything. So

[Erica]

no one said he doesn't know. You guys know, it's like Galerin or something.

[Marcella]

Okay, Galerin. Galerin, like the. Okay. So after figuring out how to pronounce his name, he's running against Massie, but so is the world. I guess.

[Erica]

There's.

[Marcella]

I, I don't know how true this is, but there's a lot of money being put into, into this race. Probably the most expensive House primary race ever from what I'm told from different news sources. And one of the things that's supporting the opponent, Galrain or Galrene, however you pronounce it, is pro Israeli groups because one of the things that they don't like about Massie is that he went against apac, and that is a American Israeli group. That basically what he was saying is that it, it's that all people in Congress have an APAC person, and he's one of the only ones that doesn't. Now, Harrod's newspaper in Israel was writing about Massey introducing a bill to force AIPAC to register as a foreign agent. Now, I don't know how true it is coming from Harrods. You never know. So basically, Massey has come out in support of Israel, but he says that being in support of Netanyahu doesn't make you anti Semite. There's a lot of. He explained that there's a lot of Israelis that are anti Netanyahu and none of them are anti Semites and all sorts of things. He, he was just trying to make the world a better place. And one of the things that I liked on X about the race is that Cerno posted on his, on his ex. He says Massey's primary is an interesting one to watch because they'll show if podcasters and social media can drive out the vote in a material way, it's unlimited money. On the other end, if Massey loses, every Congress member will be cowered into fear if he wins. It's a new media era. So I, you know, personally, I would want Massie to win because I do, I do want somebody in the Republic, in the Republican Party, that pushes back, pushes back and, and is conscientious and is not so pro Israel that everything that Israel wants, we do, you know, so it's, it's your conscience. So I, I like him being in there. I think Scott would have said the same thing. I don't know what Scott would have actually said in regards to anything, but I think you would want somebody that is, that thinks differently, you know, But I, I don't know. I mean, it's up to the Kentuckians, the Kentucky people, so I don't know if we have any in the chat there.

[Owen]

Is it really up to the Kentuckians? Is it?

[Marcella]

Yes, exactly. It should be up to them. And it seems like the entire apparatus, the money is. None of it is coming from in Kentucky, and none of it is coming for real MAGA supporters, so.

[Erica]

Owen, elaborate.

[Owen]

Well, I mean, I, you know, I, I'll mention that on both Polymarket and Kalshi, they're showing that Ed Gallerain is now in the lead over Thomas Massie. So it seems to have flipped within the last few days. And so it does seem like, you know, this campaign to take out Massie is having an impact. And it's now, I guess, I mean, if you believe the odds markets, it's, you know, now Massey's not leading, and I would imagine that's a pretty big upset if it happens because, you know, Massey is so well known and has been there for a long time and as far as I know, is pretty well liked for by the people in his district. So, you know, something's having an impact. And I would really kind of wonder what's behind this other than obviously Trump coming out against him. I mean, I do think that maybe is the main factor, but I think it may also be a pack or other people saying we need to get rid of this guy because he's bucking the consensus and talking about things he shouldn't be talking about or whatever. And so there may be a lot of money flowing based on that. So I'm skeptical of what's really going on there.

[Erica]

All right, so when is that, Marcella? Tomorrow.

[Marcella]

Tomorrow, Tomorrow. So we'll be reporting on it on Wednesday. Keep an eye on it. I rather have, you know, if, if the other candidate is better than Massey, that would be great, but it seems like it's just foreign money and who has the money. And that's just what I don't like, which we didn't see to that level in Louisiana. You know, this is a very different race. I know a lot of people are saying no Rhino, no Massie, but the Massey thing is a whole different situation. I think you guys need to look further into it in the chat that support it. It's kind of.

[Erica]

I think the thing is that, I mean, we don't like this no matter who it is. And I hate saying side because this. The side thing is such bs. Everything's so colluded. But, you know, we always complain about foreign money. You know, why. Why are other countries influencing. Look at George Soros. Like, why is he influencing what we do here? Because he's got the most money and he bought all those judges and all those days and everything else, and look what it got us. And I just want Americans to have the actual say in what happens in America. That's all I want. Like, I am so America first. That I'm like, get your money out of our country. Let's. The American people, we're not stupid. You know, they act like we're stupid and we can't have our own individual thoughts or that we just. We don't know what's best for us. Like, we're still like four years old and we need mommy and Daddy to tell us what we need. I've never seen us so powerless as having no say in how we want our country to go. It's all up to the bajillionaires with a ton of money to throw away that want to influence things, and that's what I'm most upset about. So we're going to see how this turns out for Massey tomorrow.

[Owen]

I would also just mention this whole sexual harassment claim thing that came out about Massey just, like, a couple weeks ago. That really stinks to me. I mean, it's my only my opinion. I don't know the truth, of course, but it really seems very sketchy. It looks like happened to everybody. Well, just, you know, like the Supreme Court and Trump and all those other. Where they just manufacture this claim of sexual harassment or rape or whatever it is. And, you know, then the facts start coming out that, well, maybe this person actually had a relationship with them, or maybe it's just all made up. Maybe it's just all fabricated. And maybe someone's paying this person to do it. And I don't know if any of that's true. So, again, it's all allegedly and just speculation, but it just doesn't. It doesn't smell right to me. It just doesn't seem like this is, you know, for it to come out right before the election and for it to be kind of the sketchy thing where it's. He said she said, and all this stuff, it just seems like they're just trying to send him under. And that's the only point of it. It's not about whether or not she was sexually harassed or whether she really needs some kind of compensation or whatever it is. It's just about trying to keep him from winning the primary. And so it does seem like there's a lot of other factors that are being thrown in here just to try and swing the race.

[Erica]

We've seen this a million times. All of us have seen this a million times, like, whether it happened to Biden or Trump or whatever. And it's always the timing, like, oh, you know, we knew this forever, but now we're going to let you know. Same thing, like, with the whole Epstein thing, you know, oh, Trump must be in it. It's like, well, if Trump was in it, that this whole thing would have been blown wide open before they tried to. Oh, my God. Before they tried to, you know, take him out three times that we know of. You know, wouldn't have just been easier to release the Epstein files if Trump was in there. I mean, come on. So it's just so stupid. But it's. But it's beyond stupid. It's so dangerous. And again, it disenfranchises all of us. Like, okay, my opinion again, we know. We know which elections were rigged. We know who is getting a shit ton of money for doing nothing. Stacey Abrams, for example.

[Marcella]

You know, we.

[Erica]

We watch it all. We see it all. But then you have to be careful, because when the lies benefit your opinion and you're like, oh, well, that aligns with what I think, you know, you got to be careful. It's like, do you just accept it because you agree. Agree with that, or you don't like somebody or you don't want Joe Biden to win, so he must have sexually harassed that person. You know, you have to step away and really think about it, because I don't like it coming from any side. And it's dangerous. And, you know, throwing money in and making up, you know, once the rumors out there, it doesn't matter if it's true or not. It's out there. It's. It's really dirty. It's really ugly. And we're like just little sheeple in this world. We're just watching the system break down around us. And it's like, honestly, like, our hands are so tied. And I feel like, thank God for platforms like this, for all the independent voices out there with. With podcasts and live streams. And platforms like that, because we can debate it for now. You know, we can debate it and talk about it. None of this would be talked about ever on, you know, the, the disgusting, evil corporate media. So, you know, just, just step back and think. Like, I, I like to just try to be like, well, what if this were so and so or so and so, or, you know, something similar happened. Like, this happened to, you know, this person that I liked when he was running, and it was such. And, you know, I see it for what it is. So just however you feel about whoever, it's totally up for you, you know, up to you. You can, you can like or hate anybody. And I get tempted to, like, you know, put out a smear about Adam Schiff, and I'm like, you know, like, I perk up a little bit, but I also know all the Adam Schiff did. But, but, you know, I, I do question myself. Like, wait, is that legit? Or am I just excited? Because I hate that person. So just, you know, kind of check yourselves here and there. It's good, it's good to, like, remember the cognitive dissonance and, you know, all of that. So that's all I wanted to say about that. So, Owen, I'm going to come to you next. Let us, let us in on a story you have for us.

[Owen]

Well, some good news. Tina Peters is going to be released on June 1st. So there's, you know, it's, I think it's pretty clear that they violated her rights and she never should have been put in prison. She was sick, and, you know, people thought she might even die in prison. Trump had previously said she caught people cheating in an election, and they said she was cheating. She wasn't cheating. She looked at an election scam. Because she did that, they put her in jail for nine years. And I think that's completely true. And I think it was, was essentially a rigged process. There's clear law that says that when an election involves federal candidates, that any election crime becomes a federal case. And so it should have been a federal case, but they kept it at the state level, so they violated the law by doing it that way. And then when you dig into what she actually found, it's like there is evidence that 29,000 election records were deleted from the, the voting machines. And that in addition to that, she found some kind of second set of books basically on the thing where there was this secondary secret reportable database that was used to kind of slice and dice the actual votes to come to the vote count. And apparently there were two versions of that on the machine that she found. And so I think it was that she was getting too close to the truth and they didn't want those forensics to come out. So they just decided we're going to put her in prison and keep her from talking and keep the evidence from coming out. And so it seems very clear what happened there is they just said, we're not going to allow this to come to light, so we're just going to ruin this person's life and violate the law to put her in prison. So, you know, it's been something like nine years, and I'm glad it's finally coming to an end. So I think the pressure from Trump to at least get governor, the governor of Colorado to, you know, reduce the sentence and commute the sentence, which is what happened, is coming finally. And so she'll be out of prison soon.

[Erica]

Oh, my God, what now? Why can't she just get out now?

[Owen]

I don't know. I guess I'm not sure.

[Erica]

Like, I'd be like, okay, like, now I'm like, just worried for her safety until she gets out in there, you know, so, yeah, so she's not suicidal and we can't wait for her release on June 1st. So that is very good news. Marcela, what do you want to talk about?

[Marcella]

I'm glad for Tina Peters. I do disagree in regards to her case having to be federal. In her particular case, she was prosecuted for breaking Colorado law, which she would have to adhere to as a clerk of the, of that county. You know, so I, I understand that it had to do with the federal elections, but what she was charged with were Colorado specific prosecution.

[Owen]

But there's a supremacy clause that says when there's federal candidates, it should be a federal case. I understand what they were claiming. She broke state law, but when, when it's a federal election, the law says that should be a federal crime and should be tried in federal court.

[Marcella]

I respectfully disagree on that because she wasn't tried for the, for the things that she, from what I gather from my research, she wasn't prosecuted for that specific thing. She was prosecuted for other things in connection to her status as an official, as a government official. So I, I see what you mean, but it depends on the charge.

[Owen]

So, like always, I'm saying they shouldn't have charged her at the state level, they should have charged her at the federal level. And, you know, I'm looking at the FBI website right now and talking about election crimes, and it says, when is it a federal Election crime. And it says election crimes become federal cases when. And the very first thing is the ballot includes one or more federal candidates.

[Marcella]

Right. But this wasn't about a federal issue. It was regarding her being a county clerk, the Mesa county clerk recorder being litigated against, indicted for, as a public servant for certain constitutional issues. In Colorado, state laws that were broken. So I mean, you could argue that they could have appealed and the court of appeals in Colorado agreed with the lower court. So I, I don't know if her lawyers ever use that saying that it should be federal, but what she was charged with weren't federal crimes. So, you know, we can, we can respectfully disagree on that. I wanted to talk about the Supreme Court ruled against Virginia Democrats and that was another big win for Trump. And basically the Supreme Court, the Virginia Democratic Party had, as we know, had been ruled by the Supreme Court of Virginia, had basically rejected basically under procedural issues, had rejected their redistricting and 4 to 3. And we talked about that. But basically what they did, Virginia Democrats went up to the Supreme Court to try to get a stay on that issue in order to keep the thing, the map. They're redistricting as it was, as they wanted it. And the US Supreme Court, as some have said before, basically rejected the, rejected this. They didn't do an opinion or anything like that. They just rejected it outright. One of the basics of the US Supreme Court is that they do not want to interpret other states constitutions. They allow the Supreme Court of that state to basically be the number one thing. And so all of them agreed to reject it. All of them. Even, you know, even your favorite Supreme Court justice.

[Erica]

Which favorite? Sometimes you trick me.

[Marcella]

Oh,

[Erica]

I mean, I have a favorite, but then sometimes my other favorite is Katanji Brown Jackson.

[Marcella]

That one. Yeah, that one. Even she denied it because they did not want to step into what the Supreme Court of another state said about their own laws. So they rejected outright and also was rejected because as an emergency stay, they will never grant that. So it's, it was, it wasn't a surprise, but it was a good try by the attorney general, Jay Jones, who's lost quite badly this past few days. So.

[Erica]

Oh, and anything on that?

[Owen]

I don't know. I mean, I think it, to me it was 9 0. It was pretty obvious that the whole court agreed. So again, I think I may have mentioned that over the weekend on one of my spaces that people were complaining about that. I think it was Hakeem Jeffries that was saying, oh, you know, there are a bunch of Right wing extremists. So he was essentially calling Ketanji Brown Jackson a right wing extremist. So it's kind of ridiculous. But, you know, I think it was very clear that it should never have happened. They violated their own state laws, they violated their own state constitution. And so, you know, they fail. Two bad Democrats. Sorry. Now we're going to push through all the Republican ones and you're going to lose.

[Erica]

So are they going to push to change the age of 54 to having to get out of being a justice now in Virginia? Marcela, remember, they wanted to change retirement age to 54, so every judge would have to be kicked. Kicked out and they could reload it.

[Marcella]

Yeah. So I don't know where that's, where that's at. I'll check, check into it. But I mean, you know, the, the problem is they should have followed their own laws.

[Todd Blanche]

Hello.

[Marcella]

Yeah, but they wanted to rush into it. But that doesn't, you know, the Virginia Supreme Court didn't really say, didn't talk about the actual redistricting and whether that was wrong or right or whatever it was. They just focus on the procedural and they got it wrong. So the reason why they, they got it wrong in the first place is because they, they wanted to make this, to do this fast, you know, which goes back to your story about Todd Blanche being asked, how come you haven't done this faster? One thing is because sometimes when you do things fast, you don't do them right. So, which is here's proof. So you have to, when you legally prosecute or you do any kind of law or changes, it's, it's very tedious and it takes a long time.

[Erica]

Right. All right, so I'm looking at a lot of the chat going by you guys. I love the debate. I mean, the debate is hot about Massey, and it's all fine and good, but, you know, we're all Americans. You know, we all want the best for our country. So just understand that when you're debating each other, I'm assuming both takes on this are because everybody wants what's best for this country. Now, some of you just believed, like, you know, Trump should just have his agenda, whatever he wants, just push it through, rubber stamp everything. Yes, yes, yes, I agree. Some of us are like, but wait, you know, Massey's completely, you know, actually America first. And he's like, this is going to cause a problem later. And so you have to understand, both sides want the same thing. There's just different ways of getting there. So make sure you're just respectfully disagreeing because you're all amazing people. So, you know, everybody's. Everybody's got the best interests of the country at heart, and just how we achieve that is probably the difference. So just keep that in mind. Okay. Owen, do you have, like, a short little news story for us?

[Owen]

I'll throw in some good news. Science stories. So there's sciences. Scientists have reversed stroke damage using stem cells. So it looks like they found a way to use stem cells to reverse the damage of strokes.

[Marcella]

Wow.

[Owen]

There's also. They have found a way to make old blood cells young again, again with some kind of stem cells that they are able to somehow make. Make older blood stem cells into a younger type of stem cell. So maybe they don't need the adrenochrome anymore because they found another way to do it. Let's see. They also reversed memory loss by recharging the brain's tiny engines, which I think they're referring to mitochondria there. So they found a way to get more energy to the mitochondria, and it seems like they're able to reverse some of the memory loss. So it seems like on a number of fronts, scientists are moving ahead. Of course, a lot of these studies are not at the human trial stage yet, so you can't expect it to be hitting the market anytime soon. But, you know, maybe one of these things will hit and. And they'll be able to save some people that they couldn't save.

[Erica]

Oh, my God. Where are the stem cells coming from? The. That the person themself?

[Owen]

I think in the most. In most cases, that's what it is. I think, at least in the blood cases, yes, they're not. They're. They actually say old blood stem cells have the capacity to revert to a youthful state. They can bounce back. So that tells me it's the person's blood cells, not somebody else's. And I'm pretty sure the same thing is true for the stroke stem cells, that it's. It's not. They're not taking it from someone else. But you never know. I mean, I know there are stem cell treatments that sometimes are from, like, fetal, you know, placentas or whatever it is, but that's what we were worried about. But I think in this case, I think it's mostly where they. They found technologies. And I know, like, Rogan has talked about this waste to, well, place or whatever it's called where they do stem cell treatments. And I think a lot of times they. What they do is they Take your blood out of your body, they purify it so it's just the stem cells, and then they put the stem cells back in, and that somehow makes you better. So, you know, I don't know if this is a similar type of thing, but it. You know, it looks like they are finding ways to apply it to stroke and blood aging, I guess, and.

[Erica]

Sounds good. I think I just want it just for having it. All right, you guys, listen, it's 10 on the east. East coast. Okay? So tomorrow. I'm not sure. I'm not sure what we're doing tomorrow. I have an idea, but we'll see. But we'll be here. We will be here, and. Oh, I'm just looking. Oh, okay. So I want to say thank you to everybody here, Marcella and Owen, and I appreciate you guys showing up every day. And we want to thank Scott and Shelly for allowing the show to continue and for all of us to commune as Scott wanted and have lively debates and discussions and have fun and just, you know, kind of all be together, and that's what we're achieving. So I think. I think Scott would be really pleased. I picture. I. I literally visualize him, like, looking down at us and just kind of, like, smiling and shaking his head. This is what I see in my mind's eye. Like, yeah, look. Look it. Like, this is great. It goes on. They're still together. They're still having the debates. Like, I. I just really feel it in my bones that he's watching every day and loving that we're all here. So we love it, too. All right, you guys. We miss him so much, too, you guys. I know, I know. So we will be back tomorrow, and until then, let's go out. Start saying your goodbyes. Let's go out and be useful. Have a great, great rest of your day, and we appreciate you all. And as always, a closing sip to Scott. To Scott.

[Owen]

To Scott.

[Erica]

Bye, guys. Gad sad on Thursday. Gad sad on Thursday, to answer your question. Okay, bye, guys.