Owen (2:08)

Funky, funky.

Marcella (2:10)

He needs to explain how he did all this.

Erica (2:13)

I mean, right? Love it. Did anyone hear Scott say Erica the excellent? Oh, it was right after I said something. I was like, yes, Bob, we love it. That was so fun and groovy. Be. We figured that would give some time for people to come in. Good morning, you guys. We are ready to kick this day off. Are you? I think we need to do something first, though. Let's go.

Scott Adams (2:43)

There's a little thing called the simultaneous sip. Most mornings I read from my little script for the introduction. Sometimes if I'm on the road in a secret location, like today, I don't have that with me. So you might have to help me. Those of you who have memorized the introduction to the Simultaneous Sip, all you need is a cup or a mug or a cup. I don't know. Has anybody memorized it? Well, we'll see it in the. Let's see if somebody can reproduce it in the comments because I know somebody there has memorized it by now. All right, well, we're not going to make you wait. Let's go directly to the Simultaneous sip. You know, it's the best part of your day. It's the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better. Simultaneous sip goes.

Erica (3:48)

Ah, Classic Scott. I love that. Good morning, everyone. My name is Erica, and you are at the Scott Adams school. Today is April 2, 2026. You know what that means? Nothing, really.

Owen (4:07)

It's no longer April Fool's Day.

Erica (4:09)

Thank God. I hate April Fool's Day. I'm like, please let me get through the day without someone giving me, you know, a false sense of doom. So I happened to survive yesterday. I hope you guys did too. I'm here with Marcella and Owen, as always, and, you guys, we picked out some fun news stories and events for you. Oh, real quick, top of the show. Beverly, you've done it again. Look at this. This woman and her dollhouses. I. I spied this today. Okay, look at that couch. The dog on the couch. Beverly, you are just crushing it out there.

Owen (4:46)

And then you see Beverly in the picture.

Erica (4:49)

Was that.

Owen (4:49)

Is that Beverly in the picture?

Erica (4:51)

Yeah, that's Beverly. Yep. She lounges in those types of things at home. Okay, you guys, indulge me for one second. I have two videos I want to show you. Here is one.

Mission Control / NASA Announcer (5:05)

Holy.

Owen (5:08)

They're going to the moon. The suspense is killing me.

Erica (5:17)

I love how the sound rolls in later. Hear the water. Now you start to hear the rocket starting to come across.

Owen (5:26)

Let's go.

Erica (5:34)

Can you imagine? On the water. Here comes the sound. Listen.

Owen (5:55)

Oh, my God.

Erica (6:04)

That was one clip. I. Listen. You guys know I'm a salty girl. I love the being on the water, on the boat. So I was just like, I can't imagine. But let's watch the one the White House sent to us. And if you don't know, this is Artemis. Is it Artemis 2?

Owen (6:20)

Artemis 2.

Erica (6:22)

It's gonna go up and around the moon. And let's see the official White House video. But, you guys, this is just a me, and I'm really, really proud that we're making this the big deal that it is, because it is a big deal, and we should be reveling in this stuff. This is. This is a glorious time. So one more video for me. For you. Let's go.

Mission Control / NASA Announcer (6:43)

15. And here we go. 10, 9, 8, 7.

Owen (6:51)

RS 25. Engines lit.

Mission Control / NASA Announcer (6:55)

4, 3, 2, 1.

Owen (6:58)

Booster ignition. And lift off. The crew of Artemis II now bound for the moon. Humanity's next great voyage begins. Good. Roll pitch. Roger. Roll pitch.

Mission Control / NASA Announcer (7:19)

Houston now controlling the flight of integrity on the Artemis 2 mission around the moon.

Owen (7:27)

The integrity AMT high.

Mission Control / NASA Announcer (7:30)

AMT high on time. Passing 30 seconds. Integrity passes the alternate beagle target milestone. Mission control, Houston seeing good performance engines. Space launch system core stage integrity 3 miles in altitude traveling more than 201200 miles per hour. Mission elapsed time passing 1 minute. Approaching max Q.

Owen (8:14)

You on Ponce de Leon, Stan, we have you loud and clear on Pon.

Mission Control / NASA Announcer (8:20)

Have you the same communication signal transform confirmed as integrity and its crew go supersonic 15.

Erica (8:29)

Wow. Wow. I mean, wow. Godspeed to them. I just felt like that video, you know, needed its whole little segment right there because I'm just so proud, I'm so happy and I, you know, I love seeing the best of the best happening and I feel like, you know, we lose sight of the great things we can do sometimes. We're so bogged down with so many like horrible images and things and then it's like, oh yes, yes, thank you for restoring my faith in, you know, I don't know, moving forward and into the future. Marcela, I'm going to come to you first since you're my little space girl, my little science chick. What are you thinking?

Marcella (9:14)

I mean I, I loved watching it from beginning to end. I was nervous because there was a, they like 10 minutes or 15 minutes before they had put a stop to, to the mission or you know, a pause. And so the, it was kind of like, is it gonna go? Is it going? And then they, they, they, they basically the arm came off, you know, of the shuttle and it was like, let's go, all systems go. You know, it kind of gives you back to the times when, you know, back to the old days. I know with SpaceX we've become more accustomed to this kind of things, but I mean, I'm just so proud. But the funny thing is it happened on April Fool's Day, so that kind of, that was interesting part of it and a lot of people are making fun of it, but it's been 50 years that we haven't gone near the moon. This will not land there, but it will orbit the moon and be a 10 day mission. And Trump, President Trump did a, a truth and in it I, I love that he said we're winning in space, on Earth, everywhere, dominate. And I like that feeling, you know.

Erica (10:41)

Yeah, yeah, I do too. And, and you know, I see people commenting like if you're a Gen Xer. So when the Challenger blew up, I mean, crazy. And I just remember I went to boarding school, you guys, for high school and I was sick that day and so I was like in the little lounge Watching it was the only thing on the tv. I didn't know much about it, but I'm watching it take off, and then I swear my thought was, like, when it exploded, I was like, wow, takeoffs are aggressive. Like, what the heck is happening here? Like, I didn't even, like, realize what was happening. And, you know, so now then, when you realize what happened, I was like. Like, everybody is commenting, like, you hold your breath. You're like, is it okay? Did they get past that point that the Challenger got past? Like, you. You just. You hold your breath and pray. And I'm so happy that, you know, it seemed to go without a hitch. And, Owen, your space story.

Owen (11:40)

Yeah, Well, I mean, I'm very proud of the country and everyone that was involved. I think it's a huge accomplishment for them and for the country. I'm glad we're taking the lead on this. And like Marcel said, it's been at least 50 years, maybe longer, depending on your perspective of what happened back in the 60s. But I had questions about that. I was like, how are they getting through the Van Allen ratiation belt? And that was missing from all the stories. I didn't see any stories about. About the launch saying, here's how they figured out how to get past that Van Allen radiation belt. I asked Grok about it, and it said something about, like, maybe they could have the right angle so they could kind of maybe move along with the particles so they're not getting hit by the particles. And maybe they have some kind of shielding. But they didn't go into a lot of detail. Yeah, because that was. I mean, that. That's one of the things where they said, oh, we lost the technology. We don't know how they did it. Like, it's like, come on, come on, you didn't lose all. You know, and like, somebody figured it out. Somebody knows how they did it. And so that's a question in my mind, still is. Like, how did they get through the vanilla radiation belt without, you know, having lots of radiation hit them and killing them? And. But they, you know, it looks like they did it, so that's a huge accomplishment, whether it's the first time or not, you know, or not. But, you know, I'm also interested in what's on the dark side of the moon. You know, there's all those conspiracy theories there. So I'm, like, waiting for the footage to say, show me the dark side of the moon, because they're circling it right now, as I understand it, so they should have lots of footage. I Don't know if they're broadcasting any of it or exactly how that's going, but, you know, supposedly they're orbiting around the moon, and so they should be able to see all that stuff. And so it's kind of interesting from a lot of different perspectives. And then the reactions. There was this viral clip where they ask some kid, like, why are you interested this? Or why did you come out to watch the launch? And he's like, we're going to the effing moon.

Erica (13:35)

I saw that kid. He's like, we're going.

Marcella (13:37)

He's so excited.

Erica (13:39)

But he didn't say effing.

Marcella (13:41)

Yeah, the word.

Owen (13:42)

And then. And of course, we have to show what the other side said. So Tom Costello from NBC, he said we should celebrate. He said, I think it's important and relevant to take a moment to say, wow, we should be collectively, not as Americans, not as North Americans, but as. Just as humans, proud of the achievement here that humans have been able to do this. We're about to go even further. So he was, like, saying, no, no, no. This isn't American accomplishment. It's just a human accomplishment. Like, just. Come on, dude. Just, like, for once in your life, show some patriotism. Show some spirit.

Erica (14:17)

We did it.

Owen (14:18)

The Chinese community.

Erica (14:18)

Can't we use it? Oh, my God. Right? Exactly like we're doing it. And so this is gonna just be so fun for so many reasons. Like, will the images line up? Like, can we ever act? Like, okay, this is just the chick talking. Okay, I know nothing. But why can't they land on the moon this time?

Marcella (14:45)

They. They will. Eventually. Artemis 3 in 2028 is supposed to land again. They. They are redoing everything. So this is part of that, figuring that out and how it'll work. Eventually, it will land on the moon, and then there will be, like, possibly a. Like, they're gonna have, you know, a constant presence. Presence in the moon. My brother, you might not know, is an aerospace engineer. So I was texting with him yesterday. He was part of NASA's this particular project before. And I asked him a few questions. And, you know, my brother is like, oh, yeah, the hardest part is over. Because I asked them. They're supposed to do the moon's gravity through the moon's gravity. They're supposed to slingshot back to Earth. And I asked him, like, is that difficult, Mauricio? And he was like, no, no, that's. If they know how to. How to maneuver the. And. And go around. And it's gonna be. You know, it's it's elementary. I was like, all right, yeah.

Erica (15:58)

I'm just wondering, you know, did we actually ever land there and like, we can't do it 50 years later. There's not the technology. So I'm just like, yeah. What's going to be revealed when they actually do land on the moon? Is it going to look the same as it did in the it should video back in the day?

Owen (16:16)

I mean, that was, as I understand it, again, assuming we actually did land on the moon, that the big, one of the big challenges was that, you know, you need all that fuel to get out of Earth's atmosphere, but then you also need lots of fuel to get off the moon and to make your way back. And I know gravity is less, so it's a little easier, but you still, it was like, you know, we only have so much room and so much weight that we can take. And so it was a kind of an engineering challenge just to say how do we make sure not only do we have enough to get there, but to get back? And that might be a lot less of a concern now because I'm sure we've had so many advances in energy that we probably can do a lot more with less weight at this point. But still, I'm sure that's just a physics problem. And yeah, I think, and I didn't miss the fact that the Artemis 2 from Lockheed Martin was pointier than the SpaceX rockets. I don't think that was an accident.

Marcella (17:13)

Did you, did you guys hear that? The toilet malfunction?

Owen (17:16)

See, I didn't hear about that.

Marcella (17:18)

Now plumbers are needed. It is now fixed integrity. The actual. Where they are the astronauts. There was a toilet.

Owen (17:29)

Next time they can bring Mark next time and they'll have a plumber.

Marcella (17:33)

Oh yeah, somebody was. I'm not, I, I guess I'm not so knowledgeable about this, but they were quoting like, oh, they need that guy from the Big Bang Theory because the toilet malfunction.

Erica (17:46)

I was like, I don't, I didn't watch that.

Marcella (17:48)

I don't know that. I don't know that.

Owen (17:50)

I didn't catch that reference either. I've seen it a bunch of times, but I certainly haven't seen all of them.

Erica (17:55)

Yeah, they don't get to the moon for six days. The dark side of the moon is just the backside that we don't see due to the orbit. They are looking for a parking spot. Well, K hun Somer, we shall see. We have a theory about the other side of the moon.

Owen (18:17)

Yeah, it'll be Interesting. If they just sort of cut out the footage and say, oh, it's dark. We're not going to broadcast until we get back to the light side.

Erica (18:23)

Yeah, we love a good little theory. Okay, so you guys, so congratulations, Godspeed to them. And we pray all goes well. We cannot wait to see the footage and hear all about it. So congratulations to everybody. Oh, and I heard that one of the, the gems on the View was like, well, now that NASA is doing that, we don't need SpaceX anymore. I'm like, oh my God, you people just walk and chew gum. Just try it. So let's get into some news. I know, Owen, you were going to start us off with something.

Owen (19:04)

Yeah. So there's apparently a connection between thinking that speech is harmful and progressive ideology and being depressed. All three. So the article seems to be kind of pointing in the forward direction of if you think speech is harmful, then you're more likely to be. Or it might cause you to be progressive in your ideology or be depressed. I certainly think it could go the other way. It could be backwards science that maybe because you're depressed or because you're progressive ideology that you might be more likely to think that speech is harmful because that certainly seems like the more logical direction to me. So I think this qualifies as backward science, but I also think it qualifies as. Just ask Scott. You could have just asked Scott. You know, he could have told you that you didn't need to study it. Everyone knows that. And you know, I think it's also maybe one of those, you just can't fix this. Like someone from the outside can't really fix this. And that's.

Marcella (20:10)

Right.

Erica (20:11)

I mean, did we need a, did we need to hear this study slash story? No. Like just look around, look at, I was going to say, look at all the parades they have. What are they called? Protests. Those people are not happy. I, you know, it's, it's sad for them, but. And they're also paid. But yes, that was definitely backwards science, as Scott would say. Marcella, I'm going to toss over to you, Tell us what you have for us.

Marcella (20:39)

Well, the Boss is not the Boss anymore. So this morning I was like, I know Trump treated or whatever you want to call it. He was on Truth. And I was like, I know he's going to be on there. I know he's gonna be there. And so he was right. At 4:58 in the morning, I think he and Barry Boring singer Bruce Springsteen, who looks like a dried up. Who looks like a Dried up Prune, who has suffered greatly from the work of really bad plastic surges, has long had a horrible and incurable case of Trump Derangement Syndrome, sometimes referred to as tds. The guy is a total loser. He spews hate against a president who won a landslide election, including the popular vote, all seven swing states, and 86% of the counties across America. Under Sleepy Joe and the Dems, our country was dead. Now we have the hottest country by far anywhere in the world. MAGA should boycott his overpriced causes, which suck. Save your hard earned money. America's back. So it is what it is. I know that they, that Bruce Springsteen

Owen (21:51)

and

Marcella (21:53)

in his band, we were gonna do a protest concert tour against Evil dictator Trump.

Owen (22:02)

So I can imagine a worse choice for that band because his whole identity is like, America. Right. He used to have the flag behind him, didn't he?

Marcella (22:12)

Yeah.

Erica (22:13)

But you know what, you guys, I always tell you, look up the lyrics to Born. The lyrics of Born in the USA are anti American.

Marcella (22:20)

Yeah.

Erica (22:20)

And people don't realize that. It's a. Just check him out, look it up. He, he's, he's not pro America. You know, he did that kind of as just a way to have people think that, but his messaging has never been pro America.

Owen (22:35)

Is this a Jersey thing? Because he's from Jersey, right? He's one of your people.

Erica (22:38)

Is it a jerk? Is. What do I look like an old lesbian? Yeah. Like, what the hell does that mean?

Owen (22:47)

I'm just wondering where he got all this from.

Erica (22:49)

You know, he's an idiot.

Owen (22:51)

Yeah, No, I don't, I, I don't have any respect for him. And I think it's a. But I do think it's a horrible choice. Like, I think it's just a way to turn against your audience because most of his audience probably does have a lot of patriotism and they're going to be entertained. They're not going to a protest, you know?

Erica (23:08)

Yeah. I mean, honestly. So, yes, he lived in the same town I lived in. You know, I've seen him 8,000 times, we've worked for him. He used to come with his wife to a place of business that we had. He's everywhere, you know, whatever. My entire life he's been around, but I was like about to talk out of school. I'm just saying, my friend. So, like, you know, everybody was cool with him. Nobody bothers him here. We're not like, you know, we don't act all Hollywood here. Although now with Netflix, like coming, we'll see what happens? But he's just never been pro America. Like, he's always been woke. And the people that still like him typically are, are older and liberal and. But I will give him this. So we went to one of his concerts because, like, you know, we have friends that work for him and whatever. And we were at Madison Square Garden standing, like right in front of the stage. I did not want to go. I begged to not go, but they made me go. She's like, say it, Erica. I can't. I'm gonna get myself in so much trouble because I know too much. So anyway, I will say his concert was really, really good. And I didn't realize he was as good of a musician as he is. And like the, the ensemble, like, his stamina was amazing, the whole thing. I hated every second of being there, though. But.

Marcella (24:47)

But he was.

Owen (24:47)

What he's known for is the stamina part. Like, I, I did see him once live. My wife got tickets and we saw him and it was like a three hour thing. And I don't think they took any breaks. I think they just went all three hours.

Erica (24:58)

Yeah, I missed the last train out of Penn Station. I'm like, come on, I want to get on the train. And just when you think it's over, like, everyone's like, okay, good. I'm like, let's go. We can get the last train. Then all of a sudden, like, Elvis comes out and you're like, another hour. I'm like, I can't take it. But he was great. But it's like his whole audience is so woke now, and if they weren't woke before, his fan base is like, rabid and he will turn them all woke. So that's just kind of the way it's happening. I'm just very disappointed in him. And he's cheap. He's cheap. Okay. I'm just putting it out there. Let me just say this without getting into it further. He's cheap. Okay.

Marcella (25:38)

What's not cheap is his concerts.

Erica (25:41)

That's right. And you should. Yep. I know too much.

Marcella (25:44)

I gotta stop you. You need to spill.

Erica (25:47)

We'll.

Marcella (25:47)

We'll get you to spill in the sub cave or at the after show.

Erica (25:51)

Yeah, maybe in the sub cave one night. We'll do it. Okay. So moving on. Oh, and do you have a next story for us? Yeah. Elvis Costello was great, by the way. Yeah.

Owen (26:03)

Of course there's still a war going on in Iran. The big news, of course, is that Trump addressed the nation about Iran last night and said, we are going to bring them back to the Stone Ages. And so it does look like there's going to be a lot more bombing going on over the next two or three weeks. He did say it was probably going to take another two or three weeks. He said we're going to hit them extremely hard over the next two or three weeks. We're going to bring them back to the Stone Ages where they belong. So I think people took away that. It was a pretty aggressive speech, probably more than expected. I don't know why there was so much surprise because I don't think it was really a departure from anything he had been saying in the days leading up to it. But the stock market took a plunge. Don't look at your stocks. It's not pretty. And oil prices went up and all the rest. And so it does look like we're going to have another two or three weeks of bombing campaigns. He did threaten again to take out all their power plants. He said he wasn't going to touch their oil because then they would have no chance of recovery ever, ever. But he said he's, you know, still thinking about doing the, the, the power plants and that. You know, I know Hegseth recently said bombing is our negotiation strategy. We negotiate with bombs. So seems like we're having more and more stuff happen. And then, you know, there's more A10 Warthogs heading over and those are like the close air support, you know, where they can like strafe people and do do supported ground troops. So there may be more indication that maybe that's coming in some form. And I think there's more people going over there and there's more ships going over there, like the Marine, Marine ships that would support any kind of amphibious operations. So seems like we're still building up at this point and there's probably going to be some more stuff happening. I didn't expect this. TikTok has more short dramas than I could ever finish. Each episode leaves you wanting the next. Download TikTok now and try it.

Erica (28:06)

I wonder how the Iranian people are doing. You know, there was, you know, they're so excited to be, you know, having this happen on one hand because they don't want to live that way. But I wonder how they're surviving all of this. I can't even imagine hearing a bomb going off period. And like the, the PTSD you would have of, like, is it going to fall on me? Like, I don't know. Do you think they're, do you think that they're strategic enough? I mean, then there was the girls school. And then I heard there was another school that got hit, like a bunch of boys, young boys. And I. It's somewhere out there.

Owen (28:48)

I think that one might have been debunked.

Erica (28:51)

You think?

Owen (28:52)

Well, there was. I can't remember the exact details, but there was something that also was on the first day of the campaign and there was some accusation that they had hit some civilians in some civilian facility. And there was a statement from CENTCOM saying, we looked into it and it wasn't from us, it was an Iranian missile. And so they were pretty sure about this one and pretty quick to say, this wasn't us, we didn't do that.

Erica (29:17)

Yeah, yeah. Ms. Virginia Adams did say, you can get used to anything. But man, that's got to be so scary. I mean, for anybody who's been living under conditions like that. Like, we are so lucky where we are, you guys. So let's remember that when you're poo pooing America like Bruce Springsteen, you know, we're so lucky. But, you know, and a lot of these things are happening. Yeah, you could look at it like, okay, because they have resources that we want, but it's happening. I'm going to just say also because there are these horrible regimes people are living under. And when you look at the pictures of how Iran used to be and the women and like, it was like beautiful and everybody looked, you know, happy and the women were wearing pretty dresses and, you know, now like, I mean, have you ever been in a store? You guys, I was at Target one time years ago, and two women came around the corner, but in the full hijab where there was just like a slit for their eyes. Like sometimes I see people with the head scarf, but I was like, literally, it took my breath away when I saw them. It was so scary to me to see people like that here in our country. And I was like, and why are you like that here in our country? Like, you don't have to be that way, you know, but it was really scary and I don't know, that could interesting thing one day.

Marcella (30:42)

The interesting thing is I had friends that were Muslim and a lot of them choose to do that. There's no reason they, their husbands or their family doesn't force them. I had a friend that her family was very liberal Muslim and she believed, you know, in, in her religion and she wanted to have that as a token to God or whatever to cover herself up. So a lot of the times what I realize is that the women are the ones that promote it, not the men as much.

Erica (31:17)

Right.

Marcella (31:18)

It's an interesting part. And they push their sons to only marry women like that.

Owen (31:22)

But so I could certainly see that from different perspectives. One might be that sort of intrasexual competition where, you know, there's plenty of slut shaming here in America. And it's probably just on another level with the Muslims because they have different standards of how you're supposed to dress. And I'm not encouraging that. I'm just saying I could see that happening where it's more driven by the women as opposed to anybody else, because they would call each other out if they're not complying with things or doing something more attractive or more tempting than the other women are doing. So I could certainly see that.

Erica (31:59)

Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I remember watching something about, like, the women in Kuwait that have to have the whole hijab, and underneath they're wearing, like, Gucci and they're all decorated, and they have, like, meetups with their girlfriends because they can't be out in public, and they're like, take off the hijab. And then they're like, you know, very Kardashian looking. And they. They. They hate it. Like, they're like, we. We can't believe we have to act this way, dress this way. And I was just like, God, like, you should.

Marcella (32:29)

You.

Erica (32:30)

But you should be able to wear what you want to wear is the point. And. And that's, you know, freedom. So not just that, obviously, but, you know, the fact that they. That these women in Kuwait couldn't just walk around in their Gucci and their Prada. They had to be covered from head to toe, Their face, everything. It's just. It's just insane, in my opinion. And if it's their opinion, too, and they live there, I feel bad for them. That's. That's a scary thought. But I. I do hope that the people in Iran, the good people in Iran are okay. I hope that they can see this through. And you know what? I just want to add on one more thing. I wish I had thought about this further so I could articulate it in a way that it was to me, but I'm gonna botch it. But so sometimes. No, you know what I'm gonna do? So this is something Joel had said to me, Joel Pollock. We were on the phone the other day, and he had such a good way of explaining to me. We were talking about Passover and what freedom really is and that, you know, sometimes, like, you're walking across the desert to get to, you know, your freedom. And maybe the first group that was walking, you know, most of them didn't make it, but they also still knew that they were, like, walking away from, like, you know, slavery. So they still had all of that, like, slave mentality on them. Like, we were slaves. Like, you know, maybe that first group that had to face it still had to carry that burden, but they paved the way for, like, the second group to be like, oh, the people that went before me, you know, they're the ones that broke through so then we could come after. And that's why, like, the second wave of people are the ones that really made it. Um, so I feel like, you know, maybe this is the first rung of that type of thing. So the people that are living in Iran right now, you know, that had to live through all of this, like, they're kind of paved the way for their freedom, I hope. And I hope that more make it behind them. That was so inarticulate. But when Joel said it to me, I was like, wow, that's a really good way of looking at, like, what's. What you're already living with and what you have to carry on top of what you want. So it's a big burden. So I pray in whatever way, I pray for anyone living that way. So, Marcella or Owen, did you want to add on to anything with that story?

Owen (34:57)

Yeah, I mean, I would just say, like, I understand what you're saying, too. And another angle to that might just be that, as if you grow up with those types of standards, like, I'm supposed to be under a burqa or a hijab or whatever it is, you might consider that almost like a safety thing. Like, I'm safe if I'm in this. I'm not safe if I'm not in this. And you might just feel really uncomfortable without it on. If you're out in public and you feel like, oh, I'm doing something wrong, someone might do something to me.

Erica (35:23)

Yeah.

Owen (35:23)

And. And maybe they raise their kids differently. You know, they might say, we want. We don't want this. But it's, you know, probably often hard to just adjust and live a completely different way than what you're used to.

Erica (35:34)

Mm, perhaps. All right, we'll move on.

Marcella (35:39)

So there's a trump that the post says kangaroo court, so I don't know what. Which. I mean, I don't know which court he meant because there's so many cases that come out the. That one, a federal judge blocked a mass termination of parole for nearly 900. 900,000 migrants who entered via a CBP1 app under Biden. Sleepy Biden. And so basically, she undid all of this all at once. The judge did. And that was shocking because it's gonna create a massive amount of court blockage, because the reason that she did that is that you can't really do a blank mass termination of parole via one order. You have to do it pursuant to every case, and which in a way I agree with, with her, but with the judge. But at the same time, it becomes almost impossible to do that in a timely manner. So I'm sure it's going to get appealed beyond this point, and the Supreme Court might have to hear it. There was another case, a commercial therapy case, where they. The Supreme Court sided with President Trump, eight to one decision. The Supreme Court in that one, had struck down Colorado's ban on conversion therapy for minors. It wasn't President Trump's, particularly his. His deal, but it is a conservative position to have conversion therapy. I don't know if you're familiar with that, but basically it came down 8 to 1. Put it in the chat. If you know who was the one that was against it, who was the

Erica (37:36)

one, you know, one out of all of them, and you're like, oh, I'm the one. Yeah, you're the one.

Marcella (37:45)

Which, which justice was it that Eric comes was against conversion therapy to have the freedom.

Erica (37:55)

Yep. Katanji. Brown Jackson.

Marcella (38:01)

Yes, Jackson.

Erica (38:02)

Brown. What is it?

Owen (38:04)

Brown Jackson.

Erica (38:05)

Yeah, Brown Jackson. Okay. Yes.

Owen (38:09)

But there was also recently the case where a judge blocked the construction of the ballroom and the defunding of NPR and pbs. So there's a lot of stuff happening and a lot of, you know, what I would call obstruction happening in the courts, where it's like, they get these activist judges, they may even shop it around to find the right judge, but then they get them to put in some injunction and just stop every single thing that Trump is doing. And it's just ridiculous.

Erica (38:35)

And the thing is too, though, the ballroom, as far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong, like, it's not even like Trump's gonna ever get to use it, right? But he's building it for the future. And to me, it's embarrassing to bring people into a tent, like I said the other day. So he's building a big, beautiful ballroom. It's not cost anybody money. He'll never get to use it. And they're just mad because why? And I was looking at, like, a bigger mock up of the. The site. It looks like Every other built like it looks completely in proportion to everything else that's around it. So it's not like he put like a glass tower next to it and he's like, here's the ballroom and it's like this, you know, 30 foot tower. I mean, 30 story tower. So like, you're right, Owen. It's just because it's Trump and they can't stand it. Silly.

Marcella (39:26)

Yeah, they said that Congress needs to approve it. So for the ballroom, they're not used to somebody like President Trump that just does things, you know, and he just does things.

Owen (39:39)

Why would Congress need to approve it if it's not coming out of taxpayer dollars? I know Congress has the power of the purse, but if it's not not being paid for by taxpayers, then what authority do they have to say no?

Marcella (39:50)

It's not about funding, it's about the actual projects that are done on federal like the White House and Congress, the buildings themselves. It always has to go through Congress. So it's not really a funding issue. It's more of like you should have shown the plans than the going through the procedures, you know, And President Trump jumps that.

Owen (40:15)

That's how you just don't get ever anything done at all. That's how you get there. Was that Jon Stewart, I think, had a clip recently that came out about the broadband project, I think that Biden was doing in the build back better and he basically was coming to the realization, I don't know if he ever said it, but that Elon Musk was right about how inefficient things are and how much waste and stupid things happen because they went through this process that was outlined in the build back better plan for this broadband stuff. And it's like there's 12 steps to it. And so you have for tomorrow, okay. I mean, you have to like issue, you know, issue requests for proposals and then you have to go get them challenged in each of the states and you got to do like, and it's just step after step after step after step. And like, until you reach the end of those 12 steps, you can't even actually do anything. So it's like, and I think they said they were down to nine of the. Either they only had nine left at the end of that process, or nine of them dropped out or something. But some high percentage of them, I think never made it to the end of the 12. So that's why nothing ever happened is because they just couldn't get through this government red tape where you have to let everybody challenge things and the federal government needs to be able to say no or yes to the state proposal. And then the very last step was to do sub grants to subcontractors to actually do the work. So it's like you, you don't actually even hire the people that would do the work. And like, if you have this whole plan worked out that's been approved by the government and then you put it out to bid, those subcontractors might say, well, it's going to cost twice as much or it's not feasible or this plan won't work. Like you, it's, it's totally backwards.

Erica (41:58)

And why would you even want to try?

Marcella (42:00)

You, you need to be honest. I, I am actually on the side of you need to actually go through certain, certain channels because, you know, I'm, I'm very hopeful that we'll always have a Republican president, but we might have a Democratic president that goes, oh, Trump did this. I think I can do this. So, I mean, the reason why it needs to go through a certain channels is that the White House is a historic building. So I mean, a lot of us maybe live in the east coast or something. If you have a historic house or whatever, you need to get certain permits to build to it. The same with, I would imagine, something historic like the White House. You can't just go and destroy part of it and then put a new building in. So I mean, to be, it's like the filibuster rule alert. People want to get rid of it. It's just, I think that people need to think further in the future because any Democrat can use what Trump is doing now in their own fashion.

Owen (43:02)

I'm not worried about that and I'll tell you why. I think if Biden tried to do the same thing, nothing would have ever happened. 12 step process, right? It wouldn't.

Marcella (43:14)

The auto guy.

Owen (43:16)

But I'm saying like, that, that 12 step process is what Biden proposed. Like, that was what they wanted it to be. And I think the comment with Jon Stewart, with whoever his guest was, is like, it's basically designed to get as much money out of the taxpayers as possible before you actually do any real work. And it's like, I'm guessing that if, if Biden took on the project of rehabilitating the East Wing in whatever way they thought was proper, we'd still be studying something, we'd still be issuing proposals or, you know, getting feedback or whatever, and it wouldn't, we wouldn't have broke ground, nothing would have happened. And so I'm not worried about the other side, because I don't think they can do anything.

Erica (43:56)

What's going to happen when somebody wants a mosque on the property?

Marcella (44:00)

Right. So, I mean, that's why there's checks and balances. That's why I came to America, because in my country, there's no checks and balances. So I actually, I'm for checks and balances. So to your point, I mean, I may not be popular.

Owen (44:16)

I'm not saying there. There shouldn't be any checks and balances, but I am thinking, like, first of all, Trump is maybe uniquely the type of person who can make all this stuff happen quickly and properly because he's done so much construction that he has the experience as the commander in chief, and I know he's not doing the work, but he can review things really quickly, and he knows how to get things done. As far as that stuff goes, I think it's different having him as president than anybody else. And I also think that, you know, I certainly would object if it was like, hey, we're putting a golf course on the, you know, White House lawn, or we're, you know, we're building some big tower or something like that would be different. But as you said earlier, it's like, this looks just like the rest of the White House, and it's, you know, very consistent with the architecture, and it's not anything that anyone would really have any reason to object to. And so if you put all this bureaucracy in there just to rubber stamp everything, every step of the way, but it takes months or years to go through those steps, then you're just introducing delay for no good reason. You're just saying, okay, we got to go through these steps just so we can say we did. We didn't actually accomplish anything. We just, you know, added two or three or five years to the process.

Erica (45:33)

Yeah. And you could eliminate a million of those steps. I mean, I. It's like New Jersey. I swore I would never operate another business in New Jersey again because it was like, at some point, I'm like, just, all right. So I literally was building a business, and the thing, the requirements they wanted me to have for what the function of the business was was like, it didn't even. You couldn't even make sense of it. I'm not kidding, you guys. I literally said to the nice lady in, like, the building department one day, I was, like, finally in tears. I was at my breaking point. I was like, listen, you guys, forgive me if you don't know me. This is normal. I was like, listen, I'm gonna turn around and I'm gonna just start shooting hundred dollar bills out of my ass. And when you have the amount you need for this entire thing to be okay, like, just let me know because that's all this is about. And she started laughing. I'm like, obviously you just want money. Like everything was like, we need 500 for this, we need 45 for that, we need 200 for this. Now you have to, I'm like, two. Just tell me how much money you want because you're, you're kill, you're like killing me with this like slow drip of. We have rules and we have that. And I was like, I'm never doing business in the state again. And then the taxes and like if you make this much money. So it, it's, it's all a grift. And it, it, it discourages good people from doing good things that are going to help other people. They make it so hard. So even like with this project, it's like, it seems like they just like handed down a binder full of paper and we're like, okay, everybody take a shot at it and write a rule that you want there to be in here. And everyone's like, oh, let's do this too. And like you can't do it on a Tuesday after 3 o'.

Owen (47:22)

Clock.

Erica (47:22)

And this ha. You know, it's like such a, to get something done. So, you know, and again, somebody, it might have been Jack Posobic, reminded me the other day that. I'm sorry, I forgot the name. Is it the Keys Bridge that was hit by the tanker a couple of years ago in Baltimore? In Baltimore. Nothing's happened. It's just still a wide open gap. Like so this is what I'm talking about.

Owen (47:48)

Like if we add in the nuclear side, like there's another story I saw recently where the TerraPower, which is that Bill Gates backed nuclear firm, they're doing the small modular reactors I think, but they, they said they were able to get all the engineering work that traditionally in the past has taken 18 months and they completed it in eight weeks. So it's like two months instead of 18. Like it's a small fraction of what it used to be. And I think it's using digital twin technology, like, you know, which is a little bit like an AI thing, but it's, you know, not quite the same. But you know, with all the various advances we have, I think a lot of these things can be done a lot faster. But I think the bureaucracy is the slow part it's like, you know, if you say we got to allow 90 days for feedback or we've got to allow however long for people to submit proposals, or we've got to allow, you know, all these things and then we, you multiply that by 12 steps or 50 steps or however many you put in the process, then you're still limited to saying, okay, even if I can do it in a day, I've got to wait three months for a response. And once I get the response, maybe I got to go back and do something else. And it, it just is just painfully slow.

Erica (49:02)

Yeah, just.

Marcella (49:03)

But the analogy doesn't work there a lot. You know, you can't compare that to the White House, which is a historical building, you know, so you can, it's

Erica (49:16)

too, too many steps, too much red tape.

Marcella (49:19)

It's the White House. I mean, it hasn't been that long since he started being president.

Erica (49:24)

No, I get it that it's the White House, but that's my point. Like, like everything, everyone wants to put their freaking stamp on everything and their opinion into everything.

Marcella (49:34)

Well, guess who can change the rules. Congress can change those rules. Which I, it comes again to Congress not doing their job of actually, you know, updating all these antiquated, slow moving rules. And one of the reasons could be fraud. Just my opinion and possibly Trump's opinion, because he brought up the Federal Reserve building in a, in a post about this historic preservation. He talked about the Federal Reserve building. That's taken so much, you know, that they're not suing them to stop it. It's taken billions of dollars to build it and now this, the, that's not being paid by, by the Congress or any, any taxpayer. They're blocking that possibly because that's not how it goes. You didn't go through the right channels. You didn't pay the right lobbyist.

Erica (50:36)

You know, so I'm looking at the comments. It is a free ballroom for sure. And let me, let me just let you guys a little on a little secret if, or, or let's just do it this way. In 2028, when there's a new Republican president, I don't care if it's Vance, Rubio, Desantis, whoever it is, nothing will change. They will then have Vance derangement syndrome. So it does not matter, you guys, they did the same thing with George Bush. They will do the same thing with the next president. It went. The Democrats are like, literally, they're getting more kooky by the minute. So it does not matter who the next president is going to be like. They're like, oh, no, it's just because it's Trump. Nope. It's not going to matter. You'll see. It's. So nothing's going to change. Yeah.

Owen (51:28)

Speaking of kooky Democrats, there was this birthright citizenship case, and Gitanji Brown Jackson put a hypothetical in front of the court to consider, and she said that the way she put it is, if I steal someone's wallet in Japan, the Japanese authorities can arrest me and prosecute me. It's allegiance, meaning they can control you as a matter of law. So there's this relationship based on. Even though I'm a temporary traveler, I'm still locally owing allegiance in that sense. So it sounds like what she's saying is, if you want to show allegiance to your country, go steal a wallet.

Erica (52:02)

I can't. Can you imagine? I think Trump was sitting there when she said that, too. I think.

Owen (52:11)

I don't even know what. How to respond to that. I'm kind of wondering how the lawyer did respond, but I think they shut her down pretty handily and explained why that wasn't the case. But, yeah, I don't understand how a Supreme Court justice could say something that

Erica (52:25)

stupid, because that was Biden's pick. By the way, does anyone know who gave her to Biden? I want to know who. Like, go backwards in the trail. Like, who said, this is your. This is your. Just this should be it, because it wasn't him.

Marcella (52:40)

You know, I. I don't. I should look into it. But I think a lot of the justices are picked from the D.C. circuit. They're. They're court of appeals judges already in D.C. and are well known to the political.

Erica (52:57)

You know what I'm forgetting, too? I forgot dei. Like, I'm thinking they just picked somebody. Now I'm remembering that they needed, like, a black woman.

Owen (53:08)

Yeah, Biden definitely said that. I think.

Marcella (53:11)

Yeah, she did.

Erica (53:12)

Okay, so she was the best black woman they could find. Fantastic. Well, she's a gem. She has major dreams of being famous and being an actress. So I'm, like, thinking somebody.

Marcella (53:26)

Does she.

Erica (53:27)

Yes, she does. She was on. On a Broadway stage. Like, they brought her up to act out a part in a Broadway stage tomorrow. Totally inappropriate. As. As a. As a justice. She went up on stage on Broadway to, like, dance around in some show. I'm like, this is so pathetic. And I think she might have even been in a TV show. I'm not sure. But I think some, like Patriot should offer her a leading role where she plays a judge. Almost like a night court kind of show. And she gets to play a judge and she gets her show, but she's got to leave the Supreme Court to go do this job. So it's just a nice way of being like, here, lady, we're gonna put you over here. Okay, you, you go over here and you're gonna play a judge just like you are now. And then we go fill that seat with someone amazing. Because this has, this is a joke and I can't even imagine. It was eight to one. Like, do you think she has any self awareness where she looks around and she's like, oh, am I the one? It's just so crazy. Yeah, you know.

Marcella (54:34)

You know, Escalia, Justice Scalia, my favorite justice of all time, he used to be sometimes the only one because he would always be against, you know, against the grain. And so there is some kind of thing in, in the Supreme Court where you are kind of become entrenched as with your own political viewpoints or, you know, your own legal viewpoints. So she might be there and she might like that because she gets that attention.

Erica (55:06)

It's true. It was Hamilton. She appeared in Hamilton.

Marcella (55:11)

That's what I was gonna say. That sounds something like she would like,

Erica (55:14)

but she's like a. She is like a local municipal judge in my opinion. Like she's just, just. I'm sorry. Like she, she's too stupid to be there. It's not right. Like her decisions affect this entire country. It's not right. Can. Can you impeach a judge? How do you get rid of one?

Marcella (55:37)

You, you. She's appointed for life.

Owen (55:40)

Unless I think there, I think there is an impeach in impeachment process, but like all the other impeachment processes, it's never going to actually happen. They would, I don't think they'd even bother trying because they would know, number one, that it would just never remove that person from office. And number two, given that, you know, it would just be a big spectacle and wouldn't. It would just maybe pit the branches of government against each other in a pointless way. Like there's no reason to go through that whole process for that. And so I doubt that would ever happen unless there was some massive scandal like, you know, somebody really was an Epstein pedophile or something where it's like everybody agrees this guy gotta go. You know. But I think, you know, short of something really, really massive scandal, I don't

Erica (56:20)

think not scandalous enough.

Owen (56:24)

I mean, it is for me, but I don't, I don't Think it's gonna work?

Marcella (56:27)

I don't. I don't think she's. She's dumb. I. I really don't. Because to get to that level, you. You really can't be. And. But again, it's not a matter of intelligence. As we've seen, a lot of very intelligent, educated people do. Don't have any common sense. So I think.

Erica (56:46)

Marcella.

Owen (56:48)

Marcella, what is a woman?

Marcella (56:51)

Well, I mean, she has her viewpoints just like you do. So she gets to, what is a woman?

Owen (56:58)

She didn't even express her viewpoint.

Marcella (57:00)

She's like, right, we know that. You know, not everybody's gonna see the world like we do. And so she has her own viewpoints, and I have mine, you know, but

Erica (57:11)

her viewpoints are disqualifying as a chief justice. Let's get real.

Marcella (57:16)

Again, Congress.

Erica (57:18)

And again, she got there because of dei, not because she's so smart that she worked up the ranks to get there. She was like what they thought was the best black woman. So. And, like, how embarrassing. Like, how embarrassing. Oh, I'm here because I was what they thought was the best black woman. Not the best person. Not even the best woman. The best black. Is she gay? Is she gay? Please tell me she's gay, too, because I'm gonna die if she's gay.

Marcella (57:43)

No.

Erica (57:44)

Somebody tell me she's married. I can't.

Owen (57:49)

I would also just point out for the record that she is not the best black woman choice. There are plenty of other black women that are a lot smarter that they could have chosen.

Erica (57:57)

That's right.

Marcella (57:58)

It's never about. It's who you know. You know. So I think it's, again, the DC

Owen (58:05)

Core, what they want you to. Will. They do what you want them to do.

Erica (58:10)

All right, enough on her.

Marcella (58:11)

She's married to a white guy. They say, of course. This is like.

Erica (58:17)

So is. Don

Marcella (58:21)

Lemon is going to be president.

Erica (58:24)

Oh, of what?

Owen (58:28)

Of nothing.

Erica (58:29)

Yeah. Like, of what?

Marcella (58:31)

He wants to run for president.

Owen (58:33)

He expressed a desire to run for president, and he said he would be a better president than Trump.

Erica (58:38)

Oh, my God, the man loves him.

Owen (58:40)

Can you imagine that guy in the Oval Office?

Erica (58:45)

I mean, that's the best story to end on. He. That man loves himself. And it's so fun to me because all these, like, racist. I want to just curse so bad, say people are all married to white men, and I'm like, oh, even dawn, right? Yes.

Marcella (59:04)

Married.

Erica (59:05)

Yep.

Marcella (59:05)

To a white guy.

Erica (59:06)

Yep.

Marcella (59:08)

Is. Is Whoopi Goldberg.

Erica (59:11)

She's not married, but she's. She dates white men when she was men.

Marcella (59:17)

Okay.

Erica (59:17)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know what else she does. She who not only knows, but. Yeah, no, but everybody's so hypocritical. Sunny Hoston. Hostin. Hostile. Whatever her name is. She's married to a white guy.

Marcella (59:32)

I always want to say Sunny hostage hostile.

Erica (59:36)

I think of.

Marcella (59:37)

Yeah, it's. It's something. But the market recovered. Is that true?

Owen (59:43)

It might be coming back a little bit. Let me see.

Erica (59:46)

Yeah. Whoopi and Ted Danson. Although he wore black vase when he dated her. So everything's backwards and upside down, you guys. You know, that's. That's our lesson for today. Everything is.

Marcella (59:56)

Is just nutso and sharks have cocaine in them.

Erica (60:00)

Yeah, cocaine sharks.

Marcella (60:02)

I knew I would get a laugh.

Erica (60:04)

Stay out of the water.

Marcella (60:06)

Right?

Erica (60:07)

I feel like we're so chaotic today. It's mostly my fault, you guys. I'm just delusional and tired. But listen, we did it. We made it through this show. And tomorrow, Marcella, you're not going to be here tomorrow. We're going to miss you.

Marcella (60:23)

You're gonna miss my viewpoints.

Erica (60:24)

I. I'm gonna miss everything. My girl. So, Marcella, you have a case you're doing tomorrow. Our attorney girl. Right? Good luck.

Marcella (60:34)

I'm winning tomorrow.

Erica (60:35)

Yes, you are. She's gonna win bigly. But Owen and I will be here, maybe with a guest and maybe without a guest. So you guys just have to tune in to see you guys. Guys, let's have a closing sip. Love you all so much. This was so fun today. A Scott approved show crusher says amazing. So thank you so much for being here. Let's have a closing sip to our beloved Scott and to our Shelly and we will be back tomorrow. In the meantime, you guys just do something amazing today. Let's. Let's remember we've got a spaceship up there going around and we're going to find out all sorts of good things. And America is. Is the greatest country in the world. And you are the greatest people, sippers and friends we could ever have. So let's go, you guys, to Scott and Shelly. Let's be useful and we'll see you tomorrow.

Owen (61:30)

All right, Be useful.

Erica (61:35)

My cold coffee. I'll wait for you guys to say bye. Bye. There's a cocaine shark. All right, guys, see you later.

Owen (61:51)

Bye.