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I'm seeing someone on locals, and it's Steven. Just as expected.
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Yes, Steven. Good for you. I'm gonna wait for a couple of people to come in, and then we have a new Scott Adams school song to play. So if you guys want to make a Scott Adams school intro song for us, just keep it tight, relevant, let us use it whenever we want, and that will be fun. Okay, so we'll. We'll rotate them around, but let me play this one, and then myself and Owen and Kyle Becker will be right back. Here it is. From uhc. Welcome to the SCO of Persuasion. There's room up front. Grab your libation. This got out of school with its audience of authors and big these winners. Let's simultaneous. I love these. That is so fun.
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I never knew which direction that thing was gonna go. It kept changing, right? Every few seconds, it was like, almost like a different kind of music.
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I do love the captions for those that want to sing along. Like the bouncing ball. That's perfect.
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It's kind of a Schoolhouse Rock vibe on the video.
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Yeah. You guys, look who's here. Kyle Becker's joining us again. How lucky are we? I know many of you are like, where's my Marcella? Marcella's kicking ass today in court. That's where she is. So she's. She's doing her lawyer thing, and we know she's gonna be amazing and do all the good stuff. So we really want to get started on this very good Friday. Happy Good Friday. But let's do something first.
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But first, you got to get primed. You got to get ready. You got to be in your best frame of mind for this. And all it takes is a cup or a mug or a glass of tanker cellos or stein, a canteen jug or flask, a vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee. And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better, the simultaneous sip. You ready? Go. Oh, yeah.
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That was a big sip I took. I couldn't get it all down. Okay. Good morning. And today, not only do I have my regular. It's like a sweet cream from Chobani, but I added a little of the Chobani coconut creamer to it. So I just went on a little Tropical vacation right now. That was amazing. Right outside the box. I know. So I do a little, a little mixology on the creamers. Welcome everybody. My name is Erica and you are at the Scott Adams school. A reminder as always, all of Scott Adams amazing videos live on YouTube and all of Scott Adams videos also live on locals.com where we really encourage you to become a subscriber if you aren't already. You get to meet the beloveds, you get to chat with them, we get extra shows and that's where Scott's micro lessons reframes, post show, pre show man caves. There's thousands more hours and shows over there than you've ever seen. So please consider joining there. And I'm going to give you a little taste of something that would happen over for the locals community. And let's, let's take this lesson from Scott because we cannot get enough Scott ever. Here we go.
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Here's a quick micro lesson. Here's a quick micro lesson. Identity is more important than reason. If you get into a debate with somebody and you realize that they're arguing from a point of well, this is who I am, such as this is by religion or I'm this political party, or I'm this kind of person culturally, you're never going to be able to talk about a bit with reasons. Identity will always trump reasons. So don't expect to convert people who have made their entire identity around a certain set of beliefs. Even if you've got really good reasons and really good sources never happen. So what you can do is go after the identity. If you want somebody to be more reasonable, you might say, now I know you like to be the kind of person who's open minded. I know that you can see both sides where a lot of people can't. You're the kind of reasonable person who can change their mind in a situation where other people maybe couldn't. Now you see where I'm going with this. If you go after their identity and try to create an identity for them that they can rise to, they might do that. I would call this the Jesus technique. Jesus told you that? Yes, you might be poor, wretched, unwashed, but you're kind of awesome. And if you follow me, you'll stay awesome. That's an identity play. It's the strongest persuasion outside of maybe fear might even be higher than fear in some cases. People do die for their identity, so might actually be the strongest form of persuasion. So always identify if you've got somebody who's dealing from their identity, not their reasons. And if that's the problem, work on their identity, not the reasons you could do the.
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Did that play through, you guys?
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It did, yeah.
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Did it re loop or something?
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Well, like, at the very beginning, it started again. So it like played for two seconds and then it started over, but. And then it started from the beginning and played all the way through.
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Oh, my goodness. All right, you guys. So if I cut off anything, I'm sorry, I could not see it or hear it here, so it was very strange. Sorry about that. Um, so then, Owen, I'm gonna, like, have you start with. I love that micro lesson. But tell me, tell me how.
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No, I think it's a. I think it's a great technique. I think it is very true that when people are coming from a place of identity, that they're not going to just be convinced out of it. And I think I've heard similar techniques. Like, Chase Hughes has been doing a lot of podcasts recently, and I've been listening to those because he's talking all about persuasion and how to manipulate people and different things and how to know when people are lying and all sorts of different things. I think you wrote some kind of book or something, so. But, you know, he mentioned something similar. He said, you know, if you give someone kind of a frame like that, like, I really like that you're this way or that you're this kind of person, that all of a sudden they'll kind of conform to that expectation that you just set for them when they might not have otherwise. And I think that's exactly what Scott was describing was if you can essentially compliment them for being the way that you want them to be, and obviously it has to be a positive thing. You can't be like, I like the fact that you're a Nazi. But if you can put it in a positive frame where they're like, yeah, that's who I want to be, then all of a sudden it kind of like hijacks the rest of the persuasion stack. Like, you know, we talked last time about the thoughts and words and beliefs and. Or, you know, the different things that kind of cascade into actions. And I think this is one way of kind of hijacking that and saying, if you can subtly alter how someone looks at their identity, then you'll alter their behavior.
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Right. Okay. So, Kyle, what was your take on that?
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Well, I like what rambling Doug said, you know, you can't reason somebody into a position that they weren't reasoned into and to begin with. And just from my background, what it reminds Me is the. The popularization of, like, identity politics from the early 1970s, literary theory, including, like, postmodernism, like, you know, Jacques Derrida and Mikhail Foucault. And the. Basically, what I think has gone on in the academia with the radical left is they have tried to convince people that we're no longer a human race, we're no longer universal. We don't have principles that apply equally to everyone. So, like freedom, individual rights, the things that this country were found on don't apply because you belong to this group, this subgroup, minority, whether you're, you know, black female or LGBTQ or trans or whatever, that you cannot read a piece of literature. And if that person doesn't represent you, then you can't understand them and they can't speak for you or vice versa.
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And.
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And I think this is one of the biggest cultural components of Balkanization in this country. And for me, someone. I'm more of an Enlightenment school guy, I believe that there are universal principles that apply to human beings because we have reason, so because we can talk together, and that these principles cut across race, gender. We just need to respect each other as individual human beings. So I think, like, in terms of identity, we need to have a more powerful American identity that is inclusive of everyone, regardless of your background. We need to have a melting plot and not a chopped salad. Not a very bad chop salad, by the way. Not where everything fits together because we don't have the same values. Right, yeah, values. That's what should hold us together as a nation. Not these different little.
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That's such a good point. And I feel like that's what gets lost sometimes when they're like, oh, you know, we're welcoming of everybody. And it's like, no, I'm not. Because, you know, if I went to, what, pick a country with my American values and they don't have them, tell me how that's going to work. You know, I'll be like, well, no, I have freedom of speech. And it's like, well, you don't hear. And, well, I'm a woman. I can wear this in America. Well, you're not in America now, and you're going to jail or we're going to beat you or worse. So I. I think it's important. Yeah, people have identities. But if. If we could be a melting pot in our country, I'm speaking just for America, then, you know, assimilations, the word. Like, yeah, our values are so important. And I feel like a lot of times we lose our. We're losing our values. And you know, they're like, oh, well, you know, like this sounds my. Sounds silly to some of you guys, but they're just like all the time. You'll see a show and then they're just like, there's no black person on that show. Like, why isn't there a, a black person on Friends? Like, because culturally a lot of us are different. And if you put me as a roommate, let's just say with five black people, we're not going to be the same. I'm not like, hey, can we share hair products? Hey. Like this is how, like I cannot dance the way some of them can dance. I have black friends. They laugh at me. You know, it's like we're just different and it's okay and we don't eat the same food. We're all Americans, but we're not like all the same. So. So I would like to embrace people's American cultural differences, but having the same values would be amazing as far as. Yeah, go ahead, Kyle.
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So it's interesting to me where these values come from. The left likes to argue that we were just European white people. That's where it came from. And then they just dismiss everything. It doesn't apply to foreigners who come to this country, doesn't apply, apply to black Americans. It doesn't apply. The Enlightenment values came out of non stop warfare, religious warfare in Europe, the Reformation, the Counter Reformation, different sects of Protestantism, you know, and so it came out of conflict for people. Different cultural identities, different backgrounds, different belief systems. And it was kind of a truce, you know, the individual rights, you know, going back to even Magna Carta and everything. This was kind of true since society where live and let live. And of course there was a Christian culture that was the base, but there were a lot of sects and you know, when, when the settlers came to America, they didn't have the same religious background that you know, there were, you know, Quakers and different sets of Protestantism and there was a lot of, I mean it was. The sectarian strife is just as powerful as like inter religious strife. And so I think there's a lack of appreciation. The left likes to dismiss all this history, all of this philosophical background and act like they're progressive, they're not progressive, they're regressive, they're going backwards. They're taking us back to the periods of identity based strife that wreaked such havoc on Europe. So the founders were very appreciative of different cultures, different belief systems, different backgrounds, even to the point where Jefferson was Talking about, if you're an atheist, that's fine. In Virginia Declaration of Rights, they were debating different religions. These issues have been philosophically resolved in my mind, how you deal with them and have a peaceful society. Just the left wants us to take us backwards to where we're at each other.
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I totally agree that having shared values, having shared culture is really important. And I think that's one of the really insidious things about what the left did in the school system that they essentially tried to get to our kids. You know, they tried to say, okay, we're going to teach them different values. We're going to teach them, you know, that they're bad people and that whites are bad people, or that, you know, there's all this intersectional grievances and all these wrongs that have to be somehow, you know, repaid or whatever. And they, it just, it creates all this division. And unfortunately, a lot of that whole philosophy is about division. It's about how to get people to get into some identity that is very narrow. You know, you're not, we're not just all people now. We're men and women, and those are different groups, and then we're different races, and those are different groups, and then we're different sexual orientations, and those are different groups. And, like, you got to classify yourself into this little niche, and then suddenly you're all in these different groups that are pitted against each other. And, you know, I think it is a very insidious thing that they did to try and build that into the curriculum. And they really went so far with it. I, I, I was surprised they got as far as they did. I mean, I'm glad that the Trump administration has been reversing a lot of that, but I think would have it in, like, science classes and math classes and stuff where it had nothing to do with that. Like, it wasn't even a relevant topic. And they would just introduce this stuff in there and say, okay, you've got to have this in every single class.
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Right? And it kind of reminds me of, like, the 1619 project that they brought up. I saw something that EG Karen said, and I'm kind of glad they broug up a counter argument that this country was founded for free whites. This isn't true. If you go back to the draft Declaration of Independence by Jefferson, he decried the importation of slaves, and they laid institutions to ban, eventually ban, slaves imported to the United States. And there were a lot of, there was debate between the northern colonies and southern colonies. They had to Come to the three fifths compromise, which would ultimately undermine the power of the southern colonies. And, and so what I'm trying to say is the principles, the universal principles of individual rights that were established ultimately they knew philosophically, culturally, this would undermine slavery eventually. It was just the reality of political power that if you were internally divided between the northern colonies and southern colonies, then the imperialist powers of Europe would be very predatory, would pull us apart. And they, you know, whether it's the Spanish or the French or the British, they would just rip us apart. And they were determined to hold us together in the near term. And then they laid the foundations to ultimately undo slavery. And the Europeans and their offshoots in the new world, they ultimately eradicated slavery when the rest of the world was still institutionalizing it and carrying it out. So we laid the basis for the end of slavery. They were the true progressives, not the Johnny come lately that didn't shed any blood, didn't do anything appreciably to end slavery. It was the founders who laid the foundation to end slavery and the northerners who fought in the civil war to some extent, I'm not going to overstate the case, but ultimately ended slavery. So we can't be too revisionist about, you know, like, the 1619 Project that plants these seeds in people's minds. It's not true.
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No. That's a shame. That, that, that's. That's where they wanted to take things.
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I would also say, like. And you know, that, like, in many cases, a lot of ugly things were fixed by technology or by new innovation. Like, you know, I know it was a tough transition probably for the south at the time because they were in this agricultural mode and they kind of depended on slave labor essentially to make it work. And I think that's really what it came down to. I'm guessing they didn't say, you know what, we really want to have some slaves just because we like having slaves. No, they needed somebody to pick the crops and to do whatever jobs they needed to do, and that was the only way they could do it affordably, at least within that context. But then now we have all sorts of appliances that have eliminated a lot of the household labor, and we have machines that can do the farming, and we have, unfortunately, a lot of illegal immigrants that are doing the farming. But there are alternatives now. And I think that's one thing that I think we need to recognize is that our innovation skill has brought about a lot of great human rights or great benefits to people and done away with a lot of these ugly things in the past just by enabling that through technology, through either machines or, you know, even just different business models like industrialization itself just gave people another way to make money, another type of business they could have. So it wasn't just all farming. And so I think, you know, that's, to me that's a big shift over the course of the, of our history.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Just to piggyback really briefly And I think E.J. karen brought up another good point. Just like equal treatment, well, the things that the left are, are for undoes equal treatment. So equity, for example, is about, so identity based revenge against different groups. And also this idea that there should be dei, all of these things undermine equal treatment in society is just my simple, you know, rejoinder to that. I, I just think that it, it causes never ending social strife. If equal treatment means equal treatment, it doesn't mean this paternalistic thing that, you know, African Americans or black Americans aren't smart enough to get an id.
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Matt, thank you.
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Right in.
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How offensive.
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Yeah, it's not equal or inclusive. You're right.
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It's so offensive. Okay, well, who knew that that little micro lesson would turn into a deep discussion that I'm sure we could have for the next seven hours because I know I could if I chime in. But, but there's news, you guys. All right, so can we do my story first?
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Sure.
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Thank you. So I'm like so intrigued by this. And it's about all the scientists going missing that are linked to our top secret, top secret, top secret thing. So I'm going to play this clip. Hopefully I'll be able to see it. This is Will Kane on FOX News. And let's talk about this after because I don't know, do you want a job in government doing top secret things? All right, let's see.
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There's a story that caught our attention. We're talking about a number of US scientists, some connected to very sensitive research, who have died or disappeared. Let's break down what we know so far. We're going to start with Carl Grilmar. Carl Grillmar, pictured here, was an astrophysicist at Caltech. He worked on a NASA supported space telescope project and infrared systems. Now, he was shot and killed at his home just two months ago. Then there's Frank Maywald. He was a senior scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab focused on advanced satellite systems. And he died nearly two years ago. But his cause of death has never been made public. Meanwhile, Monica Reza, Monica Reza, also reportedly connected to NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab project. She went missing last summer while hiking in California. No trace. It keeps going. There's William McCaslin, a retired Air Force general. He too is missing. He's a former head of Air Force Research Lab and oversaw advanced space and surveillance programs. He's been missing since February. Reports say he wants oversaw funding connected to a project that also included Monica Reza. Now there's more to New Mexico. Melissa Casays. She has been missing since last summer. She worked at Los Alamos National Lab. She had an administrative role, but reportedly also had security clearances. Just months earlier that she went missing, so too did Anthony Chavez. Also connected to Los Alamos. An engineer. He disappeared during a walk. No signs, no answers. And then finally, there's Nuno Larero. You remember Nuno Lorrero? He was the MIT researcher focused on nuclear fusion and was shot and killed in his Massachusetts home last December. It was the case of the Brown shooter. It's a separate case with no confirmed links to the others. But here's the key point. Authorities have not connected these cases. But look at the odds overlap. The same handful of institutions, NASA, Air Force Research, Los Alamos Laboratory. So could they be connected? Or is this something else entirely? How many discounts does USAA Auto Insurance offer? Too many to say here. Multi vehicle discount, Safe driver discount, New vehicle discount, storage discount.
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How many discounts will you stack up? Tap the banner or visit usaa.com autodiscounts restrictions apply. It's Conspiracy Theory Friday, everybody. So I. I just think it's fascinating and we hear about this and it's just. Doesn't it just seem too coincidental? So I just feel like these people are in these, like, top secret knowing positions and they get taken out. Nobody knows how, why, where they are. Were they maybe removed and put into like witness protection? Like, do you think they have new identities? Do you think they're dead? Do you think the aliens body snatched them? Like, what do you think is happening? I'm gonna. I'm gonna toss it to you first, Kyle, because you look like you have an expression of. Well, Owen doesn't have one. So tell me.
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Oh, this is a job for Fox Mulder. I'm sure the truth's out there. But, you know, my opinion is that we are probably don't know the technological advancements that we have gotten in the last 20 years. We're probably. We're way behind the curve. We don't know. I mean, the Navy and the Air Force, they break out stuff every once in while. That gives you A little bit of a glimpse, you know, like the laser technology and all of this. I'm just like, wow. But I believe that all of the talk about the UFOs, I'm always extremely skeptical. I. It's hardwired into me. Like, if this is a big distraction. I think Tim Burchette said something recently about UFOs. Like, you know, you have no idea.
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Yeah, did you hear him? Tim Burchette? He said he just saw information about the UFO. I'm gonna say UFOs, you guys. Okay, that's. That's my lingo. And he said, I think if the public saw what I saw, that there would be like mass hysteria.
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Yeah. And so Los Alamos is a little bit of a pattern connector here in my point of view. Los Alamos has a very sketchy background. And I'm putting that lightly. You know, the people who are connected with it, the way Los Alamos was founded and the secrecy around it, just, it's. It's really fascinating. And you know, so like these, these scientists going missing, I think you have a good hunch there that there could be some type of program involved. And we'll hope for the best that, you know, they were there or witness protected out. But ultimately maybe somebody said they knew so much, too much, and they cannot just go out in society as too much of a loose end for them to just to be walking around, you know, Joe Public, you know, regardless. And you know, we'll hope they're in witness protection or some kind, some secret program, but, you know. Yeah, I know more concrete details about each particular case. If there's any physical evidence that, you know, there was foul play involved, that I think it's just a. Well, that is suggestive for sure.
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Yeah. And I've been. Have you guys been seeing Owen, all these videos now of like these like meteor looking things showing up everywhere? There's lots of footage now. People are seeing things. And also, yes, I'm not suicidal and everything's allegedly okay, you guys. And it's all just my opinion. Okay. I don't know anything. But it is kind of freaky when you see like Burchette saying that you see Matt Gaetz, you know, saying certain things. Was it Boebert who said she saw some crazy stuff? I forget. And I know who is it? Not Nancy Mace, what's her name? Anna Paulina Luna. She is like, oh my God. So I don't know Owen, don't I? So you guys are both military, right? Kyle, you're. Oh, your son is your son.
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Yeah.
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And Owen was in the military. So what do you think is happening?
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Well, so the, in terms of these deaths, I think at least some of them are not, you know, a conspiracy. I think that first case that he talked about, I read it, you know, I saw the stories on that. And I think that was the person who shot him had some kind of grievance with the university or with that person or something. And so I think there are explanations for some of these things. And you know, some disappearances do happen. So it may be a coincidence. But it does seem like a lot of, you know, a lot of related people are, you know, in this very little niche of science. So I certainly could see that there is some pattern there. And I would add some more connections to that. Like I was listening to the guy that does the y files on YouTube and he was doing an interview with, I think it was Tucker Carlson and he was going through some of the other mysterious deaths or maybe not so mysterious deaths of some of these people that he mentioned that like there was some guy that had a deca card sized device that you could put 300 milliwatts into it and get as much power as you wanted out of it. Like and there was, you know, the more famous guy who had that water based car that got poisoned. And you know, in all of these cases, like all of their research was taken and has never been seen again. All their devices, everything was taken. And I think there was another story he told about some guy that made a device that was again like this sort of free energy type of device that he was working with some kind of government physicist and he was able to do something and he was getting it working and it was working. And you know, in that case, I think he said it was like a toroid device, like a kind of a donut shaped thing, but it was something that was generating lots of energy. And again, that person either disappeared or was killed and then all his stuff was taken and it was just kind of wrapped up. And I think there is the story that, you know, Tesla wanted to have free energy through the air. And JPMorgan Chase is like, how do we meter that? If it's going through the air, where do I put the meter? And you know, Tesla was like confused, like, what do you mean? Like, you know, this is free energy for everybody. And so, you know, JP Morgan shut him down and wouldn't fund the rest of his work. And apparently this WI FI person said that there was some kind of law passed that basically says if we get any kind of Technology. If anybody develops any kind of technology that's like super efficient or super, you know, like free energy sort of thing, that the government has now legal right to just confiscate it all and you're not allowed to talk about it.
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Crazy.
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I think Eric Weinstein has talked about similar things, that there are certain domains of technology that, you know, the physics might be out there where anybody who's a physicist in theory could figure out all those equations or, you know, go in that direction of their research. But if they do, then apparently everything they do is now automatically classified and you're not allowed to talk about it.
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Well, so it's interesting. You know, I just feel like maybe they just don't want too many people who know too much wandering around. And so, you know, and unfortunately, it wouldn't shock me if they were taken out some way. However you want to say it. I think that every country unfortunately does things like this and it's, it's kind of unfathomable, but it's not unbelievable. So we have to keep an eye on it. And I've been talking and we've been bringing up the Y Files so much lately. So if you guys don't know the podcast the Y Files, wh Y Files, he does episodes, I think it's called like in the Basement or the Basement where he does these like very long form interviews. And they're a lot of, a lot of subject matter similar to this. So I've heard now. And I'm going to move on from this subject. We're going to go to News in one second with Owen, but I've just heard things from like JD Van saying that he thinks they're demons. 1 why Files episode that I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, the turned out to be more of like a spiritual God thing happening. So there's all sorts of different theories, you guys, so let's keep our eye on it. And if you're one of these scientists knowing all with security clearance, just be careful. Always keep a buddy with you. All right, so we're going to move on to newsy news and Owen's going to kick us off here. And what do you want to start with, Owen?
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Well, Pam Bondi is fired. I don't know if she's going to be somewhere else in the government, but she's no longer Attorney General. Todd Blanche is taking over who is the personal lawyer for Trump, so he's definitely going to have a very loyal ag, at least temporarily.
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Wait, let's put a temperature check in the chat. So yes or no, Are you happy Bondi is gone? Yes or no? Okay, Owen, you can go ahead.
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Yeah. So, I mean, I think, you know, the speculation is that it was based on her handling or mishandling of the Epstein files, but I think Todd Blanche specifically has denied that and said it was related to other stuff. And he seemed to be indicating that it was more maybe just like that there hadn't been charges against people like Comey and some of the other people that we all probably think should have been facing charges. But, you know, I don't know that we're ever going to find out exactly what was behind it, but that's what's happening. So Trump is shaking the box with his staff and at the same time, Hegseth fired, I think it was two big army generals. And the rumor is that one of the army generals was fired because he refused to do a ground invasion in Iran, that they wanted to do this uranium operation where they were going to go get the uranium and that it was potentially going to require a really large number of troops, like maybe even like a hundred thousand troops or something. And apparently, I mean, I don't, you know, I don't know if this is true or not, but that's the, the rumor that's out there is that, you know, he may have refused to do that and so now he's out and someone else is in charge. So we're seeing a lot of things shifting. There are a lot of rumors flying, you know, about other people like Cash Patel.
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Tulsi.
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Tulsi. And I don't know if any of those are substantiated or real, but it does seem like Trump is reaching a point where he's kind of fed up with a lot of this staff not doing enough or not doing the right things, and he's shaking the box for the rest of the term. Or maybe.
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I have so many opinions, first of all, like, I'll just, you know, I'm just speaking for me. I can't even believe he put Pam Bondi in to begin with. I don't know, it's like a vibe thing for me. She, she. No disrespect. I'm sure she's, I'm like, no disrespect, but I feel like she's an idiot and her, her public facing Persona is horrendous. She cannot communicate. She has the most, the worst voice for speaking. Like, she sounds like she's just like lost in a bubble. I don't know. I have zero confidence in her. I don't felt like she, I don't, I didn't feel like she represented the situations or the president well, especially that last one when she was in Congress and started talking about the stock market prices. And I'm like, what, what is happening? So I'm glad, I am glad she is gone. And I don't know who he's going to put in long term. I wouldn't hate it to be hard meet Dylan or somebody like that. But. And I'm also questioning, you know, so now what? It's going to be like a Tulsi Gap. Like, so I feel like he's, now he's going to start picking on people that his true MAGA base liked. You know, like Tulsi did not was not into war and this and that and, you know, so now what he's, he's gonna go after her. Joe Kent, I felt like had no choice but to leave because of, you know, he has a conscience and I don't know. So it kind of freaks me out. And then when you see Mark Levin, a man I cannot see, stand in case anybody's curious. Sorry, not sorry. Why is he, why has he got his arm around the president and h. And having the president tweet like he's his daddy. He's disgusting. And the way he's even talking about Megan Kelly, whatever your differences are with her, grow up. And so the fact that that's who he's taking his cues from and not to mention Lindsay Graham and you know, we could go on and on. So I think Trump needs somebody in his ear who is out here in the real world to remind him of what he promised and what he said he was going to do. And again, I don't hate Trump, you guys. I hate the people he's listening to. And I'm really disjointed about the people he's starting to diss and now maybe get rid of. So that's a big, big problem. And I'm glad that JD Is finding a way to walk the line. And even that Trump admitted the other day, well, JD didn't love this idea, you know, Good, good. Because I don't want to hear that JD all of a sudden, you know, is going to flip flop. So, like, good, take care of Iran. Okay, you guys, I'm down with that. Let's, let's take care of that once and for all. But Mark Levin standing next to him is a bad look. And Lindsey Graham's a bad look. I would just like to see Trump not be turned into this Total political puppet that it seems like he's being turned into. And Kyle, I'll come over to you on this.
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I'm glad Pam Bondi is out that the reason for that is simply because she didn't understand the assignment or she understood it and was working at cross purposes to it because what she should have done was within the first 60 days, hit the ground running. Any prosecutions, any claims cleanup that you wanted to do on aisle seven, with all of the election interference, the lawfare, the corruption of our institutions, the weaponization of them that's going on since Trump's first term, should have hammered them right off the bat just to send a message. Even if the prosecutions didn't lead ultimately to where you wanted to, you had to tell them, it's not okay. We're not allowing this. And so she seemed to have done way too much. Limited hangouts on different types of cases, smoke screens, excuses. She was on Fox News all the time. We're tired of listening to her. All of this chit chat. We're over it. And so we needed to see prosecutions. And the few that she was able to wrangle failed and they blew up in her face for various reasons. They have to do with just legal expertise, knowing how to work the system. I mean, Letitia James seemed to me you should be able to get that one. No, apparently not. Act Blue. That just came out in the news. That seems like a slam dunk case to me. We all know they're dirty as the day is long. They should have been able to bag a few of them hurt. What's that?
C
Fauci.
A
Fauci is, is another one where Rand Paul has been begging for actual prosecutions of him. I mean, the lack of COVID justice is mind boggling. We're talking about it. Not just all of the violations of our rights, but nearly a trillion dollars in fraud. Where are the prosecutions? I mean, Stacey Abrams, the way that she went with the, you know, with the golden parachutes with all of these different Biden figures and the, and clearly a fraud scheme. How about the funding of the Tesla terrorism? I mean, that's a criminal conspiracy. Anybody who's behind those and that were associated with that. There's so many criminal conspiracies going on in the left, it just boggles my mind. So I feel like I'm living on a different planet with the Pam Bondies of the world. I want to see justice and that's just going to start with, at the very least, pushing back. Okay, yeah, there are different Problems with circuit courts where there's SDNY or DC or these different venues. Of course Congress should be helping with that, but we know that they're worthless and, or compromised. And they apparently have no interest in cleaning up our judicial circuit. They would get given Trump recess appointments. They can't even, thune can't even do that. So they're just running out the clock on justice. They're hoping we all forget. I don't forget, you know, that's why the symbol of the Republican Party is in an elephant. But they, they seem to forget ironically about everything. I don't. They put our country through a nightmare. And I think just as somebody, you know, I mean, I just turned 50, I grew up in the 80s where you didn't have this. There was a little bit of partisan bickering, but our institutions were pretty much intact. But people who have, you know, millennials and on, they've lived in a country where they can assume election interference, they can assume corruption of our institutions, they can assume bias in universities and in the courts. All the way down the line. It's been havoc and upheaval. And what does that do to a country ultimately? I don't think, do any of these so called leaders like Pam Bondi, do they get it? Do they get our country is on the brink and that, you know, our future generation is looking for justice. You have to tell them what that looks like. And it's like she's not interested in that. So hopefully, Blanche, you know, I'm not looking for revenge. Nobody's looking for revenge. We want actual lawbreakers, justice held accountable. That's it. I mean, I'm a vicious person. You know, I'm not a partisan hack. I, you know, I'm not, I'm not loyal to any one politician. It has nothing to do with, with any of that. Our institutions are under assault. Do they, do they get it? I, I don't think so.
C
I know so. When, when we transition to the next story, you guys, I want to just, just, it doesn't matter who, but drop in the chat who you would like to see to be the next ag. I mean, I'd like it to be, you know, Matt Gates or Harme. Dylan DeSantis has a few months left fit. Although who was really disagreeing about DeSantis? They had a good point about something. But anyway, DeSantis. Yeah, look, I mean, fine, I think
A
he might be somebody that the Democrats could live with, but ultimately he would, he would do some things. I, that's just my hunch.
C
Yeah, I I agree. I. Doing something would be more than what's been happening.
B
Yeah, I, I would compliment to Santa Slot on what he's done in Florida. I mean, he's made a lot of things happen there that probably a lot of people would have said never would have happened. I mean, you know, it is, he's in a position where, you know, there is kind of Republican control at this point where they can actually push things through the legislature there. But I think, you know, he's been pretty bold in terms of saying, basically the Save America act is already implemented in Florida now. Like, that has been passed. And, you know, there's a lot of other things that he's fundamentally changed the laws in Florida and the policies in, you know, and, and I think it's probably one of the more attractive places to live now if you're a Republican or if you're a conservative, because it's just like he's really made a lot of changes that would be, you know, things the left would hate and the right would really like.
A
Yeah, I think he gets it on a deep cultural, historical level, like, what is the task, what needs to be done. He's also very practical, you know, so he, he, he's not like a, you know, a salesman politician. He's somebody who's more of a man of action. And that's, that's kind of what I would like to see.
C
Who wants to see Judge Janine? I'm seeing that in the comments. She is a piss man. Let me tell you what, though. She knows how to, obviously to be on camera, and she's a very effective communicator. So I like that Pam Bondi. I could do a Pam Bondi impersonation, but, oh, you know, it's bad. Okay.
B
So I, I, I do think the public Persona is important, but I'm, I'm with Kyle, that I think what I really want is someone who's going to get things done.
C
Yeah, yeah.
B
The results are what matter.
C
Yeah, I don't know what she was doing, but. All right, bye Bye, Bondi. All right, let's, let's give us another, another topic there.
B
Well, Kyle, you mentioned Act Blue. There's a story about Act Blue's lawyers apparently sounded the alarm on a lot of these foreign contributions. So they clearly knew about these things happening. And for anyone who might not understand, you know, foreigners aren't allowed to contribute to our political candidates. And so that's money laundering at a minimum, but it's also breaking all kinds of campaign finance laws and things. And there's so much data out there. It's kind of obvious that what's been happening and that it's been happening at a large scale and that they do a lot to hide it. They break it up into what they call smurfing, where they just take someone's identity and they make a contribution in their name. And it might be $5 or $20 or some small thing that they're thinking, okay, nobody's going to notice that, but they'll do it 100 times over the course of a year or two, and they'll also do that with thousands of other people. And so they take this massive contribution from an illegitimate source, some foreign country, and they'll say, okay, we'll take this $10 million and we'll break it into little pieces and we'll just pump it all through ActBlue. And now it'll look legit. And the data is all out there. It's, you know, it's not even that hard to verify. I did that with my own mother. I talked about that once before that. I looked at the records because they're all public records. And I saw that she had records of contributing to things all over the country. Like. Like, you know, we live in Illinois, but there was like, contributions to Nebraska and Montana and places that I don't think she would ever even know who was running. And I'm like, I talked to her about it and I said, you know, did you. Did you make all these contributions? Like, did you make any contribution to this Nebraska campaign? And she's like, well, I've made like three contributions to Democrats because she is a Democrat. But. But, you know, no, I didn't do that. I didn't make 50 different contributions. And, you know, so clearly they stole her identity, which is a crime. They money laundered that money, which is a crime. And they broke all kinds of campaign finance laws to get people money that they shouldn't be receiving.
C
Wow, that is so scary. Yeah. Act Blue. Act Blue. That is. I know. I'm like reading the comments. Act Blue is like, what? Like, why weren't they taken down? It was just so easy. All the evidence is right there. Like, what more do you need? And you guys always remember, you don't pay your parking ticket, you will be in trouble. But, you know, all this other stuff, not a problem.
B
I'm pretty sure every one of these is a felony. And there's literally thousands and thousands of felonies being committed. And they know that. I'm sure they have the financial records to know where this money came from.
C
But then what happened?
A
Gift cards. They promised they would stop it, and they didn't. And so they've just been evasive. It's like they know they can act with impunity and nobody will do anything about it.
B
So.
C
Well, they're going to get in front of an activist judge, and what's going to happen now?
A
It's like, oh, well, they're guilty of lying to Congress. I mean, like, come on, this is just the tip of the iceberg. We don't. I mean, that's. I mean, okay, fine. You want to go after them? I mean, it's the same thing with Fauci or whatever. For me, it's just like, there's this concept of limited hangout. It's kind of similar. Whatever, but it's just like you. You throw people a bone. You know? You throw people a bone. Shut up. You know? And no, we were like, throw the book at him.
C
Yeah.
A
Because what Fauci did was fraud. He. There. There are just records proved. It just proves that he knew he was lying to the public.
C
Yeah.
A
And I would like to see, like, you know, it codified that. If you're a public official and you're, like, knowingly lying public. Forget Congress. Lying to the public. You're going to.
C
I say this all the time. Like, how you guys, Fauci is an evil, evil, evil, evil man. I cannot say it enough. And not just with COVID It goes way back to other shit. Okay? He's disgusting. I don't care. Say, oh, he's cute. He's like. No, he's evil. Okay. I have a friend who.
B
Well, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt, but.
C
Engineered the AIDS drug.
B
Well, yeah, that's. I mean, well, that's. If you want to talk about that, go ahead.
C
No, I was just going to say, I have a friend who was working at the White House, and they. He made eye contact with Foushee, and he was like, when I tell you, like, the evil that was pouring off that man. And he said. And he looked at me like he wanted to, like, murder me. That one of his friends next to him was like, like, do you beef with that guy? And he's like, I've never even seen him before, like, in person. And then he was like, holy shit. Like, the way he was looking at you. And he's like, but you, Erica, the man is so evil. So it. Like, I guess it drips off of him. But, I mean, the people, the lives lost and, you know, raise your Hand if you couldn't go see your dying parent or couldn't go to a funeral or couldn't be there when someone was sick, Me, everyone I know and the stories and the stories and the stories for what? For what? Never ever believe this stuff again. You guys like that. If it just sounds too radical, it's too radical. Or just take a beat before you take a jab. You know what I'm saying? Like, do what you want. And again, this is my opinion. And allegedly. But, you know, you have. I say this all the time. There's something inside of you that questions things. Sit with that thing a little bit more. Just sit with that little thing that's. That you're questioning a little bit more. You don't have to be the first one to go run and do something. Okay, I just want to say that because I have friends who are vaccine injured. I have friends who died. I have friends that lost jobs. I have friends that had to leave their job because they wouldn't get the vaccine, lost, you know, money and this and that. And it's just like it was. It was something so horrible done to us. I didn't mean to go off on this tangent, but I can't say enough, like, how that man is on the COVID of magazines and glorified. It's like really like they're putting Satan right out there for you.
B
And there's a lot of people that died because of his decisions and his approvals of drugs that were dangerous, that didn't work, that would kill people. And it was a direct result of him saying, we're going to push through this approval for this drug. Azt, I think, was the name of the AIDS drug that was like that, that didn't work and was killing people. And more recently, remdesivir. And I think he tried to get Remdesivir approved for AIDS as well. And it was killing people because it was causing kidney failure. And they did a study that showed that this thing caused causes kidney failure. And so they had to pull it at that point. But he brought it back for Covid and he got it approved and he made it like the standard treatment for serious cases. And then you started hearing stories about, oh, this person died of COVID but really it was kidney failure and Covid doesn't cause kidney failure. So, like, it was clearly remdesivir that killed a lot of these people and it was all a result of Fauci.
C
I'm looking at your comments near.
A
They used to call it or something like that.
C
Yeah, I'm looking at all your comments, you guys. Like, my heart is broken reading your comments. And I'm so sorry for all of the death and devastation that you all went through and you're still going through because of this disgusting man and his cohorts.
A
I'm so sorry, children that, that he harmed with the masking. And I think I remember looking at like some scientific journals that just basically disprove that these masks could possibly stop this virus at all. So he's actually misleading people, giving them a false sense of confidence. And the children who were masked and like the Democrat officials and operatives who didn't have masks around the kids, there were several photos of this. I'm like, how twisted and malevolent do you have to be? And also the fact that this demented elf was meeting with the CIA off the books during this big cloud of suspicious around him working with the Wuhan land. And I don't know, I don't want to go too much into this, but the series of events leading up to this with the military parade and them and the CCP PLA stockpiling masks, for whatever reason, they love masks in China. They're like stockpiling them. And so like there's a series of events that suggested that right around the time where it happened, they knew something was going to happen at this lab. Like they, you know, and then of course the people from the lab who were sick and it was all covered up. And you know, and the fact that there's a lack of justice for, for all of that just makes me think, well, it's going to happen again, you know, and what are we going to do that? Are we going to gaslight the public again over this?
B
Complete the picture? Like it, you know, Fauci was also directly financially benefiting from all these things because he would engineer all these things where he would personally get royalties on a lot of these drugs. So he was raking in the cash. There was even laws that said like, you know, he didn't have to report how much he was making on these things. So that's all hidden. And he, he was already reported to be like the highest paid person in the whole federal government.
C
Yeah, he was.
B
So he was just raking in the cash left and right, killing people in the process and just not caring about
C
any of that and listening to people on TV. I love Dr. Fauci. I'm like, oh my God, my God, wait.
A
Huge monkey wrench into our election. And that there's on top of all
C
of that and think about. I guess we needed to vent this today, you know, because here we're like,
A
ah, but, you know, is the linkage to olives. Right? I mean, she. She failed to do anything about any of it.
C
Right, right. It's so true.
A
Talk to us.
C
That's right. And so. And also because of that whole scenario, this is why we're so skeptical of everything. So it's really. It really does suck to be like, well, I don't even trust the drug. Like, okay, this is. This is again, just me talking honestly, especially this is just my opinion for real. Okay. But I'm like, yeah, believe me, I thought about taking like a. A Zepp bound or a GLP1 at one point, and I'm like, nope, that's where they're gonna get the rest of everybody with that mRNA. I'm just like, I don't trust anything. Like, how do I know it's not in there? Everybody's like, I want to lose weight. I want to lose weight. It's like, well, we'll get it into you one way or the other. And, you know, I. I'm not saying this happening, but this is how I now think.
B
There are bad things coming out about a lot of these GLP1 drugs. The latest one I saw was that it softens your bones.
C
Great.
B
It's not osteoporosis, but it's some, like, osteomast something. And it basically means your bones get soft.
C
Well, that's not good.
B
No, no.
C
There's a hundred problems with them right now. But I was just like.
B
I mean, I'm not going to say it doesn't work for anybody. And I'm not even going to say that it might not even be worth it for a morbidly obese person to use it because you may be better off being thinner than dying of your morbid obesity. But for normal people that just have 5 or 10 pounds of weight, I don't think it's worth it because you're taking a lot of risk. And again, there's all this industrial complex around it that's probably going to hide all that stuff. So I. I would be very careful with any drug, really. But, you know, I mean, my wife and I are both kind of skeptical of any drugs. We're like, we don't want to be on chronic drugs.
C
Yeah.
B
That. You know, like, statins would be the worst. But, you know, there's lots of other examples where I'm like, I'm not. I'm never going to take that. I don't care What a doctor tells me.
C
Yeah, I know. Blood transfusions are terrible.
A
It's another one.
C
Which one?
A
Cholesterol is overhyped. Like, it's been overhyped as a problem. There's a lot of mitigating. I mean, I'm not a doctor, of course, but.
B
No, you're right, though. I mean, I have a friend, Dr. Filavati, who talks about this a lot, that it's like he is a lot of heart patient, heart attack sort of patients that have normal cholesterol. And he has plenty of healthy patients that don't, you know, don't. Wouldn't. Wouldn't show up on a blood test as having good cholesterol. And so I think it's a big misnomer or, you know, big misinformation has been pushed out about that.
C
Oh, my gosh. Happy eye doc is like, why are statins the enemy, you guys, Honestly, we need 18 hours for this show today because.
A
Yeah, the other thing, Erica, just, like, when is Big Pharma ever cured anything? They keep coming out with all of these, like, you know, subscription drugs. Like, you just sign up for them and you keep going and going on the subscription. No, no, dudes just sign it. And I think that actually links a little bit with the, you know, with the. With the scientist thing that you were talking about in a way. It's just, you know, you know, with the energy, the perpetual energy thing that you were talking about. Like, anytime there's a. There's a. There's a commercial product and it's just, you know, an industry killer, you never hear of it or people start.
C
You can't hear stuff.
B
Yeah. They'll either buy you out and then just kill it or they'll make you go away.
C
If you cured cancer, you would. You're signing your death sentence immediately. Because you cannot exist if you cure cancer because you're going to kill everybody's industry. It's too. It's too big. Oh, my God. Aren't we so, you know, happy and chipper? It's like Effort Friday, and we just, like, went off the rails, but I felt like we needed to. And. And it's all because of you, Pam Bondi. No, if Matt Gates was there, this never would have happened.
A
We've already forgotten about Kristi Gnome and the whole bizarre thing.
C
Oh, yeah.
A
Except you did show a photo. Like, time I was on.
C
I was. Yeah, that. Do you know what? I had a. I'm not even kidding. I had a. I think. Thought about this morning, a dream about nipples last night. And they were hairy nipples. And I was like, what the. And I'm like, oh, Christy Gnome's husband.
A
I'm like, sue. Sue Gnome for, like, your shrink bills or something.
C
I was like, why was I dreaming about nipples? It was so weird. Oh, my God. All right, so, Owen, can you give us a little light, fun story to go out with? I know this.
B
On the good news side, eggs prices are down 80% for Easter, so Happy Good Friday, and you can get your cheap eggs. And then another story is, Hagseth came out and said that now military people can apply to carry personal firearms on military bases.
C
Oh, okay, good.
B
So I don't know if that's 100% a good thing, but probably mostly it is because, you know, we've had some of these shootings and some of these things, and I don't know that you're really going to prepare. Prevent the criminals from doing it anyway. So this would at least give soldiers a lot more personal safety if they can, you know, defend themselves and respond to these things in a way that they couldn't before.
C
Yeah, that is insanity. That the people that know how to use them and they're trained can't have the molo. Ay yai yai. Okay, you guys, listen.
B
And Outlook apparently is broken on the. On the rocket that's going to the moon, so.
C
But the toilet's fixed, right?
B
They fix the toilet. But they. They have Outlook, and apparently it's not working, so they're working on fixing that.
C
All right, so if this was Elon's rocket, none of this would be going wrong?
B
No, they'd probably have some kind of starlink or something.
C
Yep. Ah, Kyle, what are you doing this weekend?
A
No, probably just going to do some more podcasting. I did want to make a quick, quick mention, if you don't mind. Just, you know, reviews are still coming in on my book. They're generally positive. So if you get a chance, pick it up, take a look at it, see if you like it. It's Hypernia, the cursed kingdom. So it's fantasy.
C
And give them a positive review, you guys.
A
Yeah, please. I mean, people who read it, like it or listen to it. That's the general consensus at this point. So.
C
Wait, I want to write. Can someone write in the chat? Hypernia, Right. Hi.
A
Yeah. H Y P E R N E A. You should be able to find it.
C
There it is. Hypernia. And. And also, you know, good review for us would be if you could click the thumbs up on YouTube, like subscribe. If you subscribe on YouTube, you guys, it doesn't mean you're buying something. You're. It's just saying that when we go live, you're gonna know. There's also a little notification. Bell. Hit the bell. We really appreciate that. Oh, and what are you doing this weekend? I just found out it was Easter.
B
Well, we'll have the. The after party tomorrow. So I'll be doing the after party on the same time we have the show, and we'll be talking about the
C
news, and I'll pop on on Sunday. Seeing that I just figured out that it's Easter, I don't really have a plan, so that's fine. So all you guys, listen. Happy Easter, Happy Passover, Happy weekend, whatever you're doing. I will, most likely. No, I am. I'm going to be popping on on Sunday. I don't know what time. Probably like midday here on the east coast to say hello to everyone. I hope everybody has a safe, happy weekend. And we'll be back Monday morning. Marcella will tell us that she kicked butt in court. And Kyle, you are so awesome to come on with us again. And of course, we're going to see you in the future. Everybody really enjoys it. You fit right in with all of us. It's so sweet.
A
Facto. God bless everyone. Have. Have a. A blessed Easter.
C
Yeah.
A
Thanks for all the comments.
C
Yes. Yes. You guys. All right, let's have a closing sip to Scott. Everyone. Go out there and just be happy, be useful, enjoy the time we have now and make the most of. Of life while we're here. Okay, Scott, I love you. I'm gonna do a closing sip to Scott and to Shelly and to all of you, Happy Easter and Tuesday, Scott.
B
To Scott.
C
Bye, guys. I'll wait till I see you say bye, and then I'll end the stream. Thanks, Kyle. Thanks, O.
B
All right. All right.
A
Have a good easter, erica. Thank you.
C
You too, kyle. Thank you. Happy easter. Bye. Bye. To snickers. He is risen.
Date: April 3, 2026
Host: Scott Adams (absent this episode, micro-lesson clip played)
Guests/Co-hosts: Erica (host this episode), Owen, Kyle Becker
This episode focuses on understanding contemporary political, cultural, and social events in America through the lens of persuasion—particularly how identity shapes persuasion and public debate. Guest Kyle Becker, with Erica and Owen, discuss everything from the roots and consequences of identity politics, revisiting founding American ideals, developments in government staffing, recent mysterious scientist disappearances, concerns about institutional corruption, and pharmaceutical skepticism. The conversation is candid, at times darkly humorous, and alternates between critical cultural analysis and current event commentary.
[04:59] Scott Adams Clip: “Identity is more important than reason... If you get into a debate with somebody… they’re arguing from a point of ‘this is who I am’…you’re never going to be able to talk about it with reasons…So what you can do is go after the identity.”
Summary: Adams argues that debates rooted in personal identity almost never resolve via logic. Effective persuasion works by giving people a more attractive or noble identity to aspire to—a method he dubs the “Jesus technique.”
Quote ([05:50], Scott Adams): “People do die for their identity, so might actually be the strongest form of persuasion.”
[07:27] Owen elaborates: referencing persuasion experts like Chase Hughes, noting how people “conform to that expectation” if you compliment them for being the way you want them to be.
[08:54] Kyle Becker ties Adams’ message to the academic origins of identity politics, tracing it to 1970s postmodernist literary theory, arguing that America needs a “more powerful American identity that is inclusive of everyone, regardless of your background… we need a melting pot and not a chopped salad.”
Quote ([12:36], Kyle Becker):
“The left likes to dismiss all this history… they’re taking us back to the periods of identity-based strife that wreaked such havoc on Europe.”
Quote ([25:21], Kyle Becker about UFO revelations):
“Tim Burchette said…if the public saw what I saw, that there would be like mass hysteria.”
Quote ([38:33], Kyle Becker):
“The lack of COVID justice is mind boggling… nearly a trillion dollars in fraud. Where are the prosecutions?”
Quote ([46:05], Kyle Becker):
“They know they can act with impunity and nobody will do anything about it.”
Quote ([49:37], Owen):
“There’s a lot of people that died because of his decisions…and it was all a result of Fauci.”
Scott Adams ([04:59-05:50]):
“If you go after their identity and try to create an identity for them that they can rise to, they might do that… People do die for their identity, so might actually be the strongest form of persuasion.”
Kyle Becker ([12:36]):
“We need to have a more powerful American identity that is inclusive of everyone, regardless of your background. We need to have a melting pot and not a chopped salad.”
Erica ([53:04] on pharma skepticism):
“Yeah, believe me, I thought about taking like a Zepbound or a GLP-1 at one point, and I’m like, nope, that’s where they’re gonna get the rest of everybody with that mRNA. I’m just like, I don’t trust anything.”
Kyle Becker ([38:33]):
“The lack of COVID justice is mind boggling… nearly a trillion dollars in fraud. Where are the prosecutions?... Our institutions are under assault. Do they, do they get it? I don't think so.”
Owen ([54:47]):
“My wife and I are both kind of skeptical of any drugs. We're like, we don't want to be on chronic drugs.”
Those who missed the episode will find rigorous analysis of identity’s persuasive power, warnings about division sown by identity-based narratives, and frank talk about institutional failures across government, education, and science. The episode alternates between sociopolitical argument, hard news, and lively personal commentary.
Practical takeaway: The strongest persuasion works on the level of identity—not logic—whether in politics, policy, or our personal lives.
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