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Owen
We know what you really mean, Erica.
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Erica
You know what?
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Marcella
Yeah, we really do know.
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Erica
Just get me in the mood.
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Marcella
Good morning. Good morning.
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Erica
Good morning.
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Marcella
You guys look so ready. Look at that.
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Owen
Steven's here. Right on time.
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Erica
Who is first, Rick?
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Marcella
Steven, of course. Bookish.
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Owen
Gracie's here.
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Marcella
Lotus. Hi, you guys.
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Erica
All right, you guys.
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Owen
Or is it sgb? The Missing now
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Erica
the permanently suspended? Allegedly.
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Marcella
Allegedly.
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Owen
I'm hoping it's not permanent, but we'll see.
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Erica
I know it's permanent. Okay, you guys, please. I'm already having a Monday. I should have switched to decaf today. So I. I need the smooth sounds of Bob Lawler's Time for the sip. Just indulge me.
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Scott Adams
How would you like to take it up to a level that you've never seen before? You would. All you need for that is a cup of mug or glass. So take your Chelsea blast a vessel of any kind.
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Marcella
It's time for Scott Adams School. Be useful is the primary rule. Owen is here with the news. Marcella brings the legal views. Eric, he runs the show. Who's the guest? We want to know. Got your glass, your mug, your cup. Pour your coffee, fill it up. It's time for the.
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Owen
It's time for Scott Adam School. Oh, yeah,
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Erica
It's all working today. I'm obsessed. Thank you, Bob Lawler. Thank you, thank you. That just set me off in the right mood. And as we say, like, you know, who's the guest? We want to know. We are gonna have a guest in a minute. It's going to be Joel Pollock. Okay, we're just waiting for Joel to pop in, but, you guys, I don't want him to miss a sip, but I think he's going to, because I can't wait another second. So let's go.
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Scott Adams
I know what you want now. Yeah, it's obvious. It's written all over your faces. You're looking for the simultaneous sip. Well, he came to the right place. You did. And all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass, a tank or cellos or stein, a canteen, jug of flask, a vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee. And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better, the simultaneous sip. Go.
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Erica
Welcome, everyone. I am Erica. You are at the Scott Adams school on Monday, April 6, 2026, in the year of our Lord, the day after Easter. Okay, so are you guys ready for a fresh new week? I'm going to need you to, like, help me get through this week. I don't know why. I feel like I'm dragging a little.
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Owen
I'm still wondering if we're going to have bridge and power plant day.
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Erica
I don't know what to wear for bridge day or power plant day. Like, should one be an. An entree and one be a dessert? Like, should we make like it? I don't know. What do you think, Marcella?
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Marcella
It doesn't sound like it's going to happen. The last I heard was there's a. There's a supposed proposal of 45 day ceasefire. Who knows?
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Owen
I don't. I. We are very much in the two movies on one screen. And I even posted two movies on one screenshot because I had two posts, right? One on top of the other in my feed where one of them said, reuters is reporting that we've got a deal on the table and it might go forward. And then right underneath that, it said, like, Iran rejects all ceasefor fire things and they're not willing to open the straight and they're not going to do any of that. So I don't know what the truth is. It could be both. It could be that there are some people that are refusing and that other people are negotiating and. But the. The 45 day thing bothers me as well because it's like we. We said we were going to be gone in two or three weeks, and that's longer than that. So if we had a ceasefire for 45 days, that would assume we would be there that long. Right?
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Erica
Are we glitching?
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Owen
I'm not glitching.
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Marcella
I'm not.
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Erica
It's more.
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Owen
Everything looks all right.
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Erica
You guys are glitched for me, but that's okay. That's okay.
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Marcella
You're glitching for me, but
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Erica
you're like, all right.
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Owen
It's pretty close to okay on year end for me though, so it looks fine. Yeah, we can move forward.
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Erica
Okay, so while we wait for Joel, I do want to talk about this when he gets here.
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Owen
Mm.
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Erica
So can we do one clip that I saw that I found was amazing?
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Owen
Absolutely.
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Erica
Okay, so we're gonna wait for Joel, you guys, because, you know, war talk. And hopefully this clip's gonna work. Okay, so this just a quick synopsis is a very woke liberal woman coming out of. Out of it and, like seeing the light. And we don't see enough of this. So I just saw it this morning real quick, but I want to show you because it gave me some hope and I found it exciting. Okay, ready? Indulge me. And then Joel Will be here and we're off and running.
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Guest Speaker (Unknown Woman)
I resisted for a long time this notion that Democrats were deliberately inviting masses of foreigners into the country because they wanted to, to grow little Democrats and create a one party state. I've started to come round to that view. Before Trump effectively closed the southern border, I imagined a lot of it was incompetence and fecklessness. Now, there may be an element of that, but I think it was more intentional. The Biden administration opened that border on purpose and shipped people all over the country wherever they wanted to go. They put illegal migrants with no ID onto commercial airplanes with regular passengers who all have to have an impeccable national id. It's just there is design behind it. And I don't have any other theory aside from this pathological passion for minorities and weird notion that people who are non white are superior. I don't see any other reason for inviting so many people in. Especially because, you know, on the one hand, the left talks about, oh, we need these people economically. You know, we have this aging age structure and you know, Social Security's imperiled and, and Medicare costs too much and we need young people to fill out the workforce. But then, you know, they support family reunification, which means these, these people can bring in their parents, right? I mean, so much for improving the age structure.
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Erica
I was like, yeah, I don't know who the woman is. She was on the Trigonometry podcast. But when I saw it today, I was like, oh, it's like so weird to see someone kind of like peel back this onion of thought and be like, wait a minute, is this right? What do you guys think about that? Owen, what do you think?
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Owen
Well, I don't, I don't know who she is either. So that would be my first question. Is this really a liberal or is this someone else? I don't know exactly who that person is. It was portrayed that way on X, and maybe it is, I don't know. But I certainly applaud people who are waking up to that sort of thing and have that kind of open mind to really look at the facts and think about it in that depth. I think most people don't do that. I think most people are just taking whatever they're fed from the media as the headline, and they don't go any deeper than that. And so whatever the Biden administration says they believe, or whatever the Trump administration says they believe, depending on their political affiliation. And they never question those things and say, wait a second, does that really make sense? I mean, I Think some people are doing that on the right now with the Iran war, certainly, because there are a lot of people that are saying, hey, wait a second, you said no more wars and what are we doing now? And. But I do think it's good to do that. I think it's good to question those things and to say, wait a second, you know, this is what you promised me or this is what you said was happening, and that's not really what's happening. And I think that happens all the time in government. I mean, I do think that Trump is more tries to stick closer to his campaign promises than any prior president in my lifetime. I agree, but he's certainly not perfect in that regard. He hasn't been. And, you know, we, I think all expected that we'd be cutting back on government, we'd be draining the swamp, we'd be doing all those things. And I think in many, many ways were kind of disappointed that there's still a lot of swamp and there's still, you know, trillion dollar budgets being proposed and all those things. But I think certainly in the case of Biden, you know, it does look deliberate. I think everything she said was correct. I think it was all a system that was designed to manipulate the political system. And as Scott would often say, you know, you can tell. I mean, a system is. Know the design of the system is what it does.
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Marcella
Right.
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Owen
And so I think in many ways you can just look at what it does and say, well, if they didn't like what it's doing, then they wouldn't do it, they would stop it. And they're not.
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Erica
So she's a novelist. Okay, so this woman was on Gutfeld a couple weeks ago. I couldn't watch it. I saw her. So she's a novelist, apparently, and has written books with like a conservative theme is what they're saying. But I just, I love, I just loved it. I was just like, yeah, like piece it all together. Marcela, you say what I think her
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Marcella
name is from the chat, Lionel Shriver, or however you pronounce that. You know, I mean, it's kind of obvious what they're trying to do with the system. I don't even know if they're trying to hide it maybe. You know, I think the last time I heard one of the Democrats actually admit to it, undergrew. Well, this is going to cut into how many Democrats, how many immigrants could become Democrats if you're, you know, basically deporting all of them.
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Erica
Right.
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Marcella
So I. It is what it is. The sign is destiny. Is as Owen said. You know, Scott would always say that, but. Yeah, I, I just wish actual liberals actually realized it, but maybe they do. Maybe they realize it and they like it and they want it. So.
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Erica
Yeah, I, I don't know. That's. I think the census is really important that we count American citizens only because I. Beverly, you put it well, you said. Where'd Beverly go? She said they brought those illegals in mass to bump the population in certain areas to be counted in the next census to increase Dem seats in the House. Bank on it. Yeah, I mean, it seems obvious. You know, no one's going to exactly admit it, but it seems obvious. Okay. So I just thought that was interesting. And if anyone sees anything like that, where I, I'm like obsessed with. I think my kink is watching people change their opinion about something that they, they long time forming and a long time holding on to it and then they kind of come out of it. So if you guys ever come across stuff like that, please send it to me. I love that. Maybe we can feature it here because I want more people to understand that that is a superpower and a talent to be able to do and not to be afraid and not to think. Like, what will people say? It's okay to change your mind. I change mine constantly. So while we're waiting for Joel, one other clip I want to play to just kind of get a quick update from Trey Yangst on Fox News this morning. It's just a quick, I think like a minute clip or something, but let's get an update from Trey and then we're going to go right into talking about Iran, the three of us, until Joel gets here. Okay, let's do it.
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Trey Yangst
President was very clear when we spoke. Nothing is off limits if the Iranians are unwilling to make a good faith deal. He's given them another olive branch. An opportunity at de escalation, an off ramp in this conflict. And they're getting hammered each and every day on the battlefield. When we look at what's happened just over the past several weeks, the United States has systematically targeted the production lines of the Iranian regime. Iran can no longer produce the amount of ballistic missiles or drones that they could in the past. And even if the war were to end at this moment, the Iranian regime has already set back decades. And as the President told me, they're not even negotiating about their nuclear program anymore because most of it was decimated during operations Operation Midnight Hammer last summer. There have been new strikes against what's left of the program. There is still this issue of enriched uranium inside of Iran. But broadly speaking, the Iranians only have small bits of their military left that they can even negotiate, and that is why they're putting pressure on the Strait of Hormuz. And the President talked about this as well, how they can use these small boats and they can lay a single sea mine, and it can affect billions of dollars worth of international shipping. But this is what the Iran, Iranian regime does. They try to hold the international and global economy hostage, and that's exactly what they are doing right now. And that's exactly according to the President, why he is threatening to target the country's energy infrastructure if the Iranians do not make a deal.
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Erica
Ooh. All right, Marcella, I'm going to come to you first on this one. So they have very little left to negotiate with. I would imagine that's true. But, yes, one little mine can cause a lot of problems for multiple countries in the Strait. So what are we thinking? I know there was a press conference this morning with Caroline Levitt, but, you know, let's kick off. Let's kick off Iran, so. Well, kicking off how you want. I know.
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Marcella
So there is the down F15 on Friday. Then they recovered the pilot. Then you have the rescue of the second wso, which is the weapon system officer in the plane. The F15 was downed by Iranian forces. They don't know if it was a missile or a. Someone on the ground that got it, hit it and was able to, you know, force it down. They, thankfully, they ejected and they were alive. The first, the pilot was rescued right away. However, the rescue of the pilot was also very iffy because the actual helicopter that rescued the pilot got hit also by Iranian forces. They themselves had to be rescued by a second helicopter. And so there were wounded, but not seriously. And so then, then came. But I mean, the lesson is, I guess, and then obviously, the rescue of the wso, the weapons systems officer, that was announced on Saturday to Sunday, as, you know, as we know, Easter was coming. And it seemed very like it mimicked Easter, you know, Good Friday is when, you know, Jesus was finally laid to rest. And, and, and, and we thought, okay, he's. He's dead, or whatever. The same thing happened with this WS officer. Not to compare him to Jesus, but that is the idea is it kind of mimicked that. And so a lot of us thought that he was gone, you know, that we would just find his remains or Iran alleged that they had him. And there was a lot of misinformation which we have now learned was Also intentionally created by the U.S. the CIA intentionally created lots of misinformation on the ground through the Iranians, giving us the idea that there is Iranian CIA double agents, I guess. And so they ended up trying to say, you know, that the, they had rescued him or that the Iranians had him. So it was just very, lots of misinformation. But anyway, so then the rescue happens and what I wanted to highlight is the difference in the administration. So Trump administration, obviously not to Minimize rescuing the WS officer and the WS, the WSO actually surviving all of this for 1, 1, 24 hours or more, he survived with no food, no anything. When he ejected, he said, God is good. Yeah, he was, he's a true, like, Christian believer. And so I, I, I'm glad and I'm very happy that he, he hid in a mountain, mountain area so that nobody could find him. But I think I want to emphasize the difference between this administration and the Obama administration. When it happened that there was, there were attacks in Libya in September 11th of that year. Yeah, the 13 hours that they went through and we lost people there, they actually were abandoned in Libya without anybody bringing in forces. So I will never forget that.
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Erica
You know, that's, that's our theory. Leave no man behind. You know, do, don't leave your Americans behind. And they were, they were left to be brutally, disgustingly murdered and there was no attempt to get them. So, yeah, I agree, Marcela. I, I was thinking about that a lot. And you know, all that went into this rescue and how many other American military people put their lives in danger to do this? And like, that's just the best of America. I love that. Like, I was just like, waving my flags and just like, hell, yeah. Like, that's, that's our military. That's America. That's what it's about. You don't leave these guys behind. I mean, thank God that if we were doing this, it was under this administration with this military, with this Pentagon and all their action. I'm so glad about that.
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Marcella
It's. Regardless of what you think of President Trump and his, you know, his political stance on anything, you realize that he does believe in, in the, in our soldiers in America and, and that he will go, he will do whatever it needs to do to rescue you. And he has done so for people that have, like us, they've gone to another country and become hostages, were not part of the military, and yet he's able to rescue them, able to negotiate their, them leaving without having to pay money in exchange for them So I think that's. That's. I mean, it was amazing. Obviously, it's not just President Trump, but the people that he puts in command, you know, to lead the troops. So President Trump, in his truth post said. We got him. My fellow Americans, over the past several hours, the United States military pulled off one of the most daring search and rescue operations in U. S. History for one of our incredible crew member officers. We also happen to be a highly respected colonel and who I'm thrilled to let you know is now safe and sound. I mean, it's a miracle that we got for Easter. You know, he is risen. And so is this officer. So. And so is America, because I think this. And Owen can. Can chime in, or Erica, you want to chime in. If this officer would. Or Colonel, as we now know, would have been taken by Iranian forces and taken hostage and tortured and so on and so forth, I think it would have changed the entire landscape of this war, even though, you know, it's only one American soldier, but it would have completely changed the dynamics, the leverage, everything.
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Erica
Of course. And Owen, what I want you. Thanks, Marcel. And what I want you to touch on, too, it's like, you know, people were all up in arms about this, you know, post Trump made, and stupid Hakeem Jeffries was like, this is his Easter post. I'm like, that's not his Easter post. That wasn't for you. That was for Iran. There's no days off in a war. A lot of that was just, you know, baiting and, you know, like Allah. Yeah. It had nothing to do with any American. That was all, like, sarcasm, hyperbole, threats wrapped up in, like, oh, I don't know what's gonna happen. What the hell is bridge day and power plant day? Like, it was like a whole gift
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Marcella
wrapped in one, if I can add something in regards to that post. So later on, Trump did another post, which was after the rescue. He was. He used the F word. Open this fiend straight, you crazy bastards. But my. My belief is that when he did that, he was actually angry because I think he realized how money, how Iranian, the irgc and the Iranian forces hate America because of the fact that he possibly had images of. Of Iranians looking for the soldier. And I think he realized how dangerous, you know, he. It became palpable to him. And I think that's why he. He didn't, you know, he did it in through those. That filter. That's my belief.
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Erica
Yeah.
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Marcella
In mind reading him.
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Erica
Go ahead.
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Owen
In terms of the rescue, I would just say it was incredible story. Maybe there'll be a movie made about it at some point, because it's reads like a movie plot. You know, the. The officer apparently went over 100 miles or something to hide, and they had to go like over 100 miles to get him and back. And, you know, so he hid in some crevice in a ridge line. And, you know, they had the transponder that told them who he was and told them where he was. But they used the CIA to kind of misdirect people to a different area. I think they probably had drones or other, you know, aircraft circling around some other area to try and make the Iranians think it was somewhere else to put cover in. And so it definitely is a good demonstration of the power of the US Military and also our commitment to go after our soldiers and to do whatever we need to, to not leave a man behind. So I think all that's great. I think the. The post from Trump, you know, I think it is kind of like just another example of people not understanding the situation or not understanding Trump, because to me, it is a. It's a persuasion post. It was meant to try and get negotiations going because it was this threat of saying, you've got, you know, less than 48 hours, and if you don't do this, here's what's going to happen, and time's running out. Kind of a TikTok sort of warning that, hey, you better do something right now, otherwise, this is what's going to happen. And, you know, he used that strong language, but, you know, his opposition were saying, oh, we need to impeach him and he's a mad king, all these other stupid things. And that's clearly not true. But I think the intent of it might have been to give the enemy that impression that this guy might be crazy enough to knock out our power plants and to really blast us back to the Stone Ages. And they might have to start thinking about what would that look like and what would people think of them as the leadership that didn't make that stop. And so I think he has to say, everything's on the table, and I'm not going to back down. And, you know, you've already seen that I don't bluff. And so he has to take that position. And I think we've seen that he's certainly willing to say, I'll extend it another couple of days or another 10 days, whatever it is. So I certainly think we've seen the pattern of behavior where he's not really a mad King, where he's just going to do crazy stuff, but he may come across that way to the enemy. And that's what you want in war. You want the enemy to think you're willing to do whatever you need to and whatever you want to, and you're not going to back down and to say the only option is to surrender or to negotiate or to make some kind of deal. And it's just kind of baffling to me that people don't see that. I'm sure a lot of it is just they don't want to see it and they're just using it for political purposes. But to me, it was a clear military message. It was meant to communicate a message to Iran and to try and get them to negotiate and to come to some kind of deal.
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Erica
Yeah, I mean, I think if you wanted, you know, American debunk wrote like a really long Scott esque take on Trump's tweet that people were losing their hair about. So if you want to read that, you guys, you know, he's on X, he also has a sub stack, you know, so if you want to, if you want to put the Scott spin on it, maybe that's a part of what Scott might say. You know, it was well thought out, we loved it. But also it, you know, war is hell. Trump's the master negotiator. He might say, I'll give you six days or a week and then bomb the shit out of you in four days. Like, you're not supposed to really just lay out a plan for your massive enemies of exactly what's going to happen. But, you know, yeah, I'm sure he is pissed too. Like his numbers are plummeting. He knows the midterms are coming. He has a lot of pressure on him from a lot of people. But you're also, so many lives are depending on this, you know, war with our military and the innocent civilians. And you're dealing with a very unhinged country in Iran. So I'm sure you get a little heated and, you know, and he's, he's a doer. He's a doer. So he's probably like, look, mother effers. Like, I'm not kidding, you know, like, this going down. Yeah, Daddy's home. I ain't sleepy. Joe Biden. And I'm not Obama sending you money. Like, I love America and I want this wrapped up before I'm out of here. So remember that too, you guys. Like, everyone's like, oh, his poll numbers is that he's out of here soon. Like, okay, you know what the left
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Marcella
is saying, which is crazy. They're, they're, they're, they're citing the 25th Amendment, saying that he's, he's, he's not, not fit to, to be president and that they should impeach him, which is kind of, which should lead us to have Republicans vote in the midterms because that's what we're going to see. We're going to see impeachment again if we, if.
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Erica
Yeah, they wanted to impeach him for the 25th Amendment when he drank his water using two hands on the cup. So it doesn't matter what he does everything.
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Marcella
And I, I have to mind read again. But Ms. Now and CNN a bit and you know, just your average leftist. The Atlantic, they all wanted this WS officer in my mind not to be rescued. They wanted to lose. They hate that we're winning. And I mean, if that doesn't tell you where they stand on America, I don't know what else can.
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Erica
I mean like in, in everybody in the chat on your platforms. So give us a yes if you agree that like we should just be freaking done with NATO. Or a no if you think NATO's just great. But yes.
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Marcella
That reminds me of a New York Times story.
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Erica
Okay, well, let's get them going. But you could tell a story. So yes, if you're done with NATO. No, if you want to keep NATO, go ahead. Okay, go ahead, Marcella.
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Marcella
So it, you know, you think, I mean, you think New York Times is very, you know, I say liberal, but you, you, they come from harbor, they come from, you know, the, the Ivy League schools, most of those writers. But yet they posted a. Somebody, somebody cut off, like somebody was reading the New York Times and they took a picture of it in the, on X and it said the North American Treaty, the NATO North American something treaty. And it doesn't stand for North America at all. So. Because it says something, it was plain on words. How does the, how does NATO exist without America? And so North America treaty, something, something without America is not a treaty. I just found it interesting.
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Erica
Well, so what's your take on that, Owen? Because I just want to read something when, when we have a second.
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Owen
Yeah, yeah. I mean, certainly the, you know, that was a big mistake for the New York Times and it just speaks to the lack of talent and the lack of editorial capability that they have.
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Marcella
Maybe it's AI.
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Owen
Yeah, I don't know. But you know, it, it. I, in terms of NATO, I, I am on the side of, I think it's outlived its purpose. I think, you know, to me, it's high time that, that Europe steps up to protect themselves and takes really at least their share of that. And I know Trump has done a lot to at least get more countries to contribute more financially to NATO, but troops wise, military wise, I don't really see much of anything. And I'm not sure how well they're going to be able to do on their own. But it's at least made them realize how dependent they are on America for their defense. And, you know, I think they are looking to see, you know, what can they do. And I think they're planning to start spending a lot more on defense going forward. So they're already moving in that direction. But, you know, I, I personally think it is a very one sided thing. It's kind of like we protect everybody else. They don't even help when we ask them to. And so why would we stay in a treaty where the other side's not keeping their end of the bargain?
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Erica
Yep. I, I, all right, so you guys, it's way too long for me to read, but I reposted on my timeline something that Ari Fleischer wrote and let me just, let me just try to summarize it. He said my message here clearly struck a nerve. A few friends from. Oh, so, all right, well, let me tell you what his message was. This is good. This is all we need to know. He said, when this is over, the Western part of NATO will never be the same. Spain, England, France and Italy have sold us out, as they too often have a history of doing. Eastern European nations are the heart of NATO. They spend money on defense, know how to fight, and love the U.S. france particularly deserves fault and blame. From supporting China and Russia at the UN to denying Americans overflight rights, they're doing what they've always done, showing weakness while cutting deals with terrorists. The reason the US Has a Marine Corps and Navy is, unlike France, we refuse to pay a ransom to the Barbary pirates. France is always happy to cut a deal. We have unintended consequences. As nations show their true colors, NATO will never be the same and Western European weakness and acquiescence is the cause. And man, were people mad at him. But he is 100% right. And I love that.
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Owen
And I think what I see Trump doing is this sort of Monroe Doctrine idea that we should be focusing on our part of the world and let them focus on their part of the world. And that I think we are moving in that Direction, partly because of demographic shifts, that we don't have enough people, we don't have enough resources, we don't have enough ability to say we can be the world police like we have been for many decades, really, since World War II. And so I think the way things are moving, we're going to have to scale back. We're going to have to say, what's the real priority? Because we can't do everything anymore. So we're going to have to say, look, Europe, you got to step up and protect yourself. And, you know, we may help out here and there. And I really don't think NATO's going away. But I think, to me, I'd like it to, it might change. But I think, you know, Hegseth has talked about this recently that he said we're going to be focusing mostly around North America, you know, the. Up the, from the, you know, from the equator on up, and we'll help where we can south of that. But it's mostly going to be that region of the world, like South America, North America. And so that's going to be our focus. And I think most America first people would very much agree with that idea that we should be defending ourselves, we shouldn't be defending Europe. That's not our priority. And, you know, any people that don't like what we're doing with Israel might say we shouldn't be defending Israel. So I think we are moving in that direction. Direction. Certainly you can argue that we're doing all this for Israel at this point, but I think, you know, it does seem like very few other countries are coming to our aid when we need it and even when it is in their best interest to do so, because as Trump has pointed out, we don't need this oil. This is all your oil. Like, we, we've got plenty of oil on our side of the world. And so, you know, go get your own oil. Like, do it. You know, it's. This is all for you. So why don't you step up and do something?
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Erica
Yeah, But I also wanted to say too, Owen, that because I'm looking at some of the comments, you know, just this point here, like, this is, this is. I feel the same exact way. Ari also said in a response to this, because this is pertaining to what you're saying, and, and I think you guys might agree the world is changing. Out of this war will come a new group of younger nations that understand real power and the importance of streng. The uae, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Israel and Eastern Europe will emerge stronger than ever, Western Europe will continue to fall behind. As for Trump, you don't have to like him. He often says things none of his predecessors would say. But don't underestimate the fact that the US Taxpayers are fed up with nations that don't pull their weight and then force our pilots to take risks and longer flights so we can rid the world from the menace that is Iran. And today's Western European leaders would rather mollify Iran and pay the. Pay them ransom trade than support the U.S. things are different today. We all know it. The UK France, Spain, and Italy, despite its prime minister, have earned the consequences that will unfold. They could have had, could have, and should have supported the US not as NATO alliance, but as individual, free nations. All we wanted was overflight rights and full access to airfields. They've made their choices. Soon they'll see the results. And I feel that way, too. And it's like, NATO aside, why wouldn't you want to help the U.S. you know, so, like, you want all of our money and our support.
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Owen
And when I mean the. The countries you mentioned in Western Europe, they don't act like they're our allies. No, they don't act like they're our friends. And, you know, we still treat them like their allies. I think Trump less so more recently. But, you know, it's not even just military. It's also with all the censorship and going after our tech companies and, you know, criticizing our politics and trying to interfere with our politics. I know there were a lot of people from the UK over here trying to keep Trump from getting elected. Like, it's just left and right. They're interfering with our things. From their perspective, they're not respecting our sovereignty. They're not respecting that we are a much stronger partner in all these things. And they're just kind of expecting to get special treatment just because what they have in the past, and I think that's been a big mistake, administrations, is that they just kind of let the world just, you know, use us however they want.
- [37:38]
Erica
Yes.
- [37:38]
Owen
And we do everything for them, but they don't do anything for us. And they decide when they want to step in and only when they feel like it.
- [37:45]
Erica
Yeah, I, I just think, like, you know, I'm not looking at it from, like, a news standpoint. I think most of us look at it from a pragmatic kind of just, what are we doing? You know, what are we doing? Like, so. Because of traditions or, you know, ej, I know this upsets you. I get it. But, you know, it's like the world's changing and you have to change with it. You know, if. If those nations just don't want to be supportive to America, you got to rethink your strategy. So I like that Trump formed the new coalition that I can never remember. Peace. What's it called? Peace. I can never remember the name. Like, I, I'm down with the Board of Peace. Like, I'm all in for that because NATO basically sucks and they're all like, you know, and. And didn't we just hear. I shouldn't blurt this out because I don't know the details, but that Obama has some kind of, like, back room channel to NATO to thwart everything Trump was doing. I just read about this, so I'm just putting that out there like a big matzo ball right now. But, yeah, so it's all. It's all B.S. it's another club, you know, it's just like another club of grifters and, oh, my God, where's my. My opinion sign? It's another club of grifters and people on the take and money laundering and blah, blah, blah. Okay, so let's get the Board of Peace where it seems like the focus of commerce is now in these other countries. And I think we need to do that. And I saw somebody right. Also that, you know, Scott would say Russia. Russia's really, like, not our enemy. I mean, they're just another nation that loves their country. Yeah, they got their wacky ways of doing stuff, but it's, you know, like, where do you want to be? Not aligned. But who do you want to be working with in these situations? I don't know. It's. It was so deck. Hilarious callback to my meatballs. It's a giant matzo ball. If you know, you know. Okay, so let's wrap up Iran. What else do you guys want to finish up about that?
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Marcella
The Pope on Sunday in his Easter. The Pope on Sunday in his Easter. Ask for peace. I am so shocked. Yeah, that was my thing.
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Owen
I don't know. I mean, I think, you know, that certainly Trump is trying to leave everything on the table. He's trying to have every tool in the toolbox to get this to an end. And I think that's his overall objective, is to just finish this in a good way. My guess is it won't be another 45 days, but we'll have to see what happens with the negotiations and whether or not they're real or not and what kind of deal is struck and whether or not they even have control over their own country. Because I think right now they might be pretty splintered. I know one of the recent attacks said they took out 20 more of their leadership. So it's kind of like just peeling back layers until you get somebody that's willing to make a deal. But I think that, to me, is the strategy is to just say, okay, if we can't deal with those people, let's take them out and do find a new group to work with. And, you know, so it is kind of uncertain as to where it goes from here, because Trump certainly has said, you know, we're a day away from dropping bombs on your power plants. But, you know, if I had to guess, it'll get delayed again, or they'll say they made some deal and it'll get delayed for some other reason. But, you know, maybe not. We'll see, because at some point, Trump has to pull the trigger and say, okay, you didn't do it, and I got to show you that I mean business. And so he may start dropping bombs on power plants. We'll see.
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Marcella
Ooh.
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Erica
All right. And why a rockstar says best Pope ever.
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Marcella
Okay, Scott. That's who the best Pope was.
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Owen
Apparently we did get rid of the or. We apprehended the relatives of Soleimani who were living in the United States for some reason, a couple of relatives of General Salimini, his grand niece, who was 25, and I think her mother, and her mother, I think, was somehow promoting Iran within the countries within the United States. So they had their green cards revoked, and they're no longer being able to fly around with their private jets and do whatever else they were doing here. So looks like they were living it up in the United States, which I don't understand why they were able to do that, but I Don't know how they got green cards, but, you know, it's, it's a problem. And so, yeah, yeah, you can buy
- [42:59]
Marcella
your green card for a million or so dollars. So maybe they did that.
- [43:05]
Owen
But I know they have some kind of vetting though. They're not going to do it for a relative of a terrorist. But.
- [43:11]
Marcella
Well, I mean, again, you should not be punished for who your relatives are. And they are still being processed that they have not yet been, you know, they're still in. There's supposed to be hearings regarding their deportation to. Back to Iran. And I think that they would be killed during Iran the way that they wear mini skirts and wear their dress and all that. So they're not very, how would you say, orthodox or very traditional Islamic wearing women. So I, I don't know. Their allegations were made that they, they sided with the killing of, of, you know, the killing of Americans in Iran. But you know, there's freedom of speech, sort, all sorts of things.
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Erica
So I, you know what though?
- [44:09]
Marcella
Just wait and see.
- [44:10]
Erica
I, I love you for having these takes. Okay.
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Marcella
Yes.
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Erica
Like, because I just don't have like that kind of nature in me for terrorist family members coming to America. But like, go to another country, but don't come to the country that your family screams death to. There's a million other places they could go. Don't come here. That's, that's how I feel.
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Marcella
Like, I'm sure they'll go to France or somewhere else. Go to France.
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Erica
Go to France. Amazing. I, I just, you know, for me, I'm, I agree with you. They probably would be killed if they went back there. But don't come here. Don't. There's just no reason to come to the country.
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Owen
Don't come here and start siding with the IGRC and saying death to America and promoting that sort of agenda. I mean, that's, that's the, well, that's
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Marcella
the allegations that were made is still not proven in court.
- [45:05]
Owen
Well, I mean, you know, we'll see. But I think we're all full.
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Erica
We're all full. We're full of terrorism already. Like, we're, it's enough.
- [45:12]
Marcella
Again, I always think people are innocent until proven guilty.
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Erica
You know, love you.
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Marcella
Corporations are different. But I mean, that's the same thing. I, I do believe in the system that we have. So regardless of where that system leads to in regards to somebody I don't like, I still believe the system needs to remain.
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Owen
Okay. So, Marcella, you're the person in 2023 that gets to Decide do they get their green cards or not? And you know that they're relatively. Yeah, that's when they got the green cards under Biden. So do you give them their green cards?
- [45:47]
Marcella
It all depends on how they came in. I would not know how they came in under what program.
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Owen
They came in under a student visa in 2015.
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Marcella
Yeah, but then how do you get from student visa to a permanent green card? Maybe it was through marriage.
- [46:03]
Owen
Biden said, here's your green card.
- [46:06]
Marcella
Again, I would need to have more information, and I could look into it further, but that's. That's what they would need to look into is how do they get permanent residence. I feel very strongly about it, you guys, because I was a permanent resident, then I became a u. S. Citizen. For a country to kick you out, there has to be a reason for it. And the reason to. To say, oh, I support this, and verbally say it and not actually do it. You have freedom of speech.
- [46:38]
Erica
I should be able to be picky as a country, you know, so, like, I'm assuming, you know, your family wasn't some, like, terrorist bombing, death to America cult. So I feel differently about you and most people. But, you know, Iran, there's a lot of countries in between Iran and America, and a lot that they aren't screaming, death to this country. Go to that country. That's all I'm saying. I think that. That there's exceptions to everything. It shouldn't be so black and white. I don't know if it's that black and white. I mean, I can't. I can't imagine. I just can't imagine Americans, Citizens being okay with that. You know, of all the people that you want to accept and give green cards to, it's not them. There's a million other people that didn't grow up hating our country. So I don't know.
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Marcella
I feel there's a lot of Americans that hate America. You know, it's not like citizens support them. Well, that's the thing. Like, when you're a permanent resident, you're almost a citizen, so there are certain rights that you have. Again, the. The right to freedom of speech.
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Erica
You have.
- [47:52]
Marcella
And so I foresee there being issues in regards to them being deported. Now, the secretary of state has certain powers to be able to decide what that is. And, you know, it's. It's basically Marco deciding that. But, you know, I still believe in the system that we have and to have certain rules of law. You know, obviously, I'm a lawyer, so, you know, it'll all pan out. If. If they really are truly terrorists or terrorists adjacent, then they will. They will be deported for the right reasons.
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Erica
All right, so Marcel will look into it more. And, you know, Marcela won't become their attorney. Marcela has a unique perspective. One, because she's an immigrant, a legal immigrant, and also because she's an attorney. And third, because she lives in California. I always give you the California. So Marcella will look into it more. And it's so. Okay, you guys, to disagree with Marcella's opinion. And, you know, maybe because I am a natural born citizen, you know, and I am, like, fully American, I see it different.
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Marcella
Who in this crowd has not had relatives they disagree with? I mean, exactly. Like, sometimes we come from parents that are very liberal. Not that I did, but I'm saying, like, you know, you. You're born into where you're born. You don't decide, you know, and so, I mean, I. I don't know just necessarily because my. My dad was this person, then I become that person, you know, not necessarily because then they would have stayed behind in Iran and being, like, served by all these servants and so on and so forth. So I just like everybody out there, whoever has relatives or who has parents that they don't get along with or. Or an uncle, an aunt or whatever, it's. That's kind of like imagine yourself being judged by those people.
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Erica
Yeah. But I gotta say, okay, so like, if I'm having a house party and it's like, hey, come on in. And then it's like, hey, listen, like, my whole family, like, just destroyed this other.
- [50:16]
Marcella
Are you inviting your Darren's family?
- [50:18]
Erica
I mean, I'm gonna be like, you know what? There's other house parties you can go to, and you're not coming in this one. So, like, that's just how I feel about my country. It's like, listen, go to another country. You just don't have to come here. I agree. Don't go back to Iran. No bueno for you. But you can't come here. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying they should go back to Iran. They just shouldn't come here. Oh, my Lordy.
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Marcella
Oh. And so Trump endorsed. On that note, Trump endorsed Steve Hilton for California governor because some people are saying that me being from California is being held against me.
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Erica
I always did that to Scott and I always said it to Marcella, you guys, for years and years, Scott and Marcella, in my opinion, would have these, like, takes on things that I felt like the Rest of the country didn't. And I'm like, is this like a California thing? Like you guys are on another planet. So I always have to inject the California because,
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Marcella
well, California is a state and, and Trump endorsed Steve Hilton. California, it is also a disability that I learned right now that I am California disabled. And that Trump at 1 like 1:30 in the morning, he never sleeps. I want his energy. I mean he, his birthday's gonna come up soon, he's in his almost 80s, you know, and he, I just want his energy. Like that's one thing. But he, he was, you know, I could picture him with his phone like, you know, not that he probably does it with his phone, but I could just see him like, okay, and now I'm gonna endorse him. I'm gonna endorse him. So he endorsed Steve Hilton, who probably some of you know, was a Fox News contributor, contributor and he had a show on Fox News on the weekends and basically he said that, you know, California is done for, people are fleeing, crime is increasing, taxes are the highest of any state in the country. This is from his truth post. And so he said that he has known and respected Steve Hilton who is running for governor of California for many years. He's truly a fine man. One who has watched at this once great state has gone, has gone to hell. Gavin, Kevin Gavin news come new scum. He's new scum, not old scum, okay? And the have done an absolutely horrendous job. People are fleeing, crime is increasing. I already read that Steve can turn it around before it's too late. As president, I will help him to do so with federal help, okay? And a great governor like Steve Hilton, California can be better than ever before before. Ste. Hilton has my complete and total endorsement. And as some of you know, he'll be, he'll make great governor and, and will never let you down. But as some of you, President Donald J. Trump, as some of you know, Steve Hilton is also an immigrant. He's from England or originally, I think.
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Erica
Yeah.
- [53:41]
Marcella
Or he has the U.K. yeah, U.K. and so he has a different perspective than your American born governor. So he, he chose California. He chose America, you know, and so he wants to better California. Now I was telling Erica earlier in the green room, as we would call it, that this is not good for Steve Hilton to be endorsed by Trump in California. That this is probably going to lead to possibly him not being elected. Not that he, although he is number one right now in the polls as well as Chad Bianco who I know he is also a Republican candidate for governor and he is also number two. So how it would work. And Joel has talk about it. Too bad that Joe couldn't be here right now. But he talked about how there could be two Republicans running for the, for the candidacy for governor.
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Owen
Yeah, I think the way the process works is whoever are the top two get onto the final ballot and then it's based on that top two. So I think part of the issue on the Democrat side is there's something like six different Democrats running. So they're splitting their vote between all of them. And I don't think I even want to drop out. Eric Swallow's in there. Is Adam Schiff also running? I don't remember.
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Erica
But Swalwell might be done now.
- [55:23]
Owen
Yeah, I don't know. I mean he certainly has a lot of scandals hitting him.
- [55:26]
Erica
Let's talk about it tomorrow. That's interesting.
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Owen
But I think, you know, he has his residency scandal. He's got the fang fang thing where there may be some documents released and he's got questions about his campaign finances.
- [55:37]
Erica
Quite the ladies man.
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Marcella
The third person in in in the running is Katie Porter. And then there's Eric Swabo and then there's Tom Steyer. Isn't Katie Porter the one that had the meltdown?
- [55:55]
Erica
Yeah, she's screaming.
- [55:57]
Marcella
Yeah, she's like I thought her name was Karen.
- [56:01]
Owen
May as well be. But yeah, I, I think, you know, they all have problems that on that side and I think that's part of the issue. But I think it's also that they can't get their crap together to decide who they're going to run because if they had won they probably would be in the top two. But you know, if they stick with it and fight each other to the end, then that might be the perfect result and we'll end up with a Republican governor. And I don't know if that's exactly why Reagan was able to win, but it may be a repeat of that where you end up with a Republican governor just because the Democrats keep fighting each other.
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Erica
The Democrats. Yeah. And these are like a lot of the Democrat politicians are the designated liars. So it's interesting, most of them do seem to come from California. Yeah. I just wanted to.
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Marcella
To add. Well, not to this story. I'm going to the next one. Artemis 2 does a moon flyby today. So they're going to get. They're going to be the furthest out than any other humans ever even compared to Apollo 13. And they're going to. There's going to be a press conference today at 1pm let's go east coast time. At the same time, I think President Trump is speaking in the press with, with the press press secretary. So I don't know how that bring it live.
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Erica
That would be.
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Marcella
Well, the one, the 1pm press conference that's obviously gonna go forward. There's the, before that, there's the, what is it? The Easter egg rollout or whatever it's called. I don't know where you look for eggs.
- [57:44]
Owen
Can we get Biden back for entertainment purposes?
- [57:46]
Marcella
I know. And the bunny. Didn't Biden get lost and the bunny had to grab him or something like that?
- [57:52]
Owen
Is that one of his staffers in the bunny costume? And he was rally, you know, railing back in because he was getting kind of out of control.
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Marcella
Oh, yeah, this reminds me. So then later on, okay, so this whole thing about the moon flyby is going to take time. It's not just going to be at 1 o'.
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Erica
Clock.
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Marcella
It's going to be from 1 o' clock to 9:20pm so. And this is east coast time, so it's going to be. But there is a time between 6:45 and 7:25 where they're going to lose. They're going to go to the dark side of the moon and they're going to lose connection.
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Owen
Allegedly.
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Erica
Yeah. What is that? Come on.
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Marcella
It's not alleged. What do you mean? Oh, you mean dark side of the moon.
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Erica
No.
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Owen
Yeah, they are. They are. I mean, that's the mission. I believe it's happening. But I think, you know, there's certainly plenty of conspiracy theories around this whole thing. And, and the fun one to me was the recent one where they said that they had trained all these astronauts to take good notes by observing things because apparently they don't have good enough cameras to capture the dark side of the moon. So they're just going to be looking at it like they're looking at a basketball at arm's length. That's the size of the moon from where they're going to be. And they're just going to be observing the dark side of the moon and taking good notes. And I just thought that was ridiculous. It's like, what do you mean you don't have good enough cameras? Come on, there's got to be some technology there where you could just snap a bunch of good photos.
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Erica
FBI flyby. We just take notes. We don't record anything. We're just taking notes.
- [59:24]
Marcella
Really.
- [59:25]
Erica
No, no, no.
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Marcella
No footage.
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Owen
Well, I don't know. There May be pictures, there may be video. You know, I don't know what time of day it is and how much sunlight's going to be hitting the dark side of the moon. Because it's not really a dark side, it's just the back side, like there. You know, depending on the time of day, there is sunlight that would hit it. But, you know, it's. It's just kind of ridiculous to me that they would even say that. That they would even say we trained our astronauts to take good notes so they can just, you know, tell us what it looked like as opposed to actually seeing it.
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Erica
God bless. I. I mean, listen, I hope it's all true. And I hope. I hope everything. I hope everything. I hope it's great. I hope we can go there. I hope I can move there one day soon, honestly. And that it's a lot more like America than America. I'm ready to go to the moon. So send me Elon, send me NASA.
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Marcella
So, so get to get an iPad. Get two iPads or two screens, because you're going to be watching President Trump at one o' clock and also the
- [60:23]
Erica
NASA stream and we'll fill you in all about it. So we're at 11 o'. Clock. Let's go. Or one hour. Let's go. Okay, you guys, listen. We will be back tomorrow. We do have guests lined up this week and I will fill you in as we go. So just stay tuned, stay connected on X with us. Where is my mug? It's right in front of me. Like, literally. Where was it gonna go? I've been sitting right here.
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Owen
Okay, so dementia Cat might have taken it.
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Erica
I know. I'm so Monday ish today. Good Lord, you guys. A closing sip to all of you, to our beloved Shelley, to our beloved Scott. We will meet again tomorrow morning. And let's go out there and be useful and, like, keep us posted on things going on. Check out American Debunks X handle and we'll be back with all sorts of fun stuff tomorrow. Okay? Love you guys. To Scott.
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Owen
To Scott. Be useful.
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Erica
Be useful, for God's sake. Bye, kitty cats. Bye, marcella. Bye, owen.
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Owen
Bye.
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Marcella
Say bye in the chat.
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Erica
Bye, kids.