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The Scott Adams School - 04/07/26 BJ Dichter Joins The News Crew
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A
Thank goodness. Okay, are we live?
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B
Good morning, everybody.
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A
Good morning. Good morning. It is 10am on the east Coast. So what time is it where you are, Marcella?
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B
Oh, it's 7:00am In California. We do have time here.
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C
And, Owen, 9:00am for me.
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A
B.J. are you with me on the 10:00am
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D
I am with you at the center of the world, which is the eastern time zone, right?
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A
Yes.
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D
I did that for Marcella. Everybody in California always rolls their eyes, and I know how frustrating it is when I'm there, so I get it.
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A
Let's go east coast.
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B
So for everybody that celebrates Happy power plant day and bridge day, maybe.
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A
Oh, my goodness. You guys. All right, so I think I. I think. I hope you're all in here. It is April 7. We are at the Scott Adams school, and I need some coffee. Do you guys. And I need this familiar, loving face and voice so bad right now. So let's do it. Let's do it.
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E
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A
Yeah.
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E
Yeah. That's a good one. Yep, Just as good as I thought.
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A
So, you guys, I want to welcome you. My name is Erica. We have BJ joining us again. Mr. Honkingforfreedom.com is here. And we have Marcella and Owen. And there's so much news today. So I do want to tell you. I think. I think I have it scheduled. Right? But tomorrow, you can look forward to a double whiteboard from Scott.
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B
Double whiteboard.
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A
I mean, there's nothing we love more than a double whiteboard, which I'm pretty sure Scott invented. But before we kick off, I just have to say this moon stuff. The moon has never looked so glorious. So here, I think. Let's show you this. I mean, the music's helpful, too.
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C
Is this the front side of the moon or the dark side?
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A
I'm gonna guess the front side, Owen, because I can see it looks like the top side, top, front.
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B
You see that alien in there?
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A
Oh, my God. But look how beautif. Beautiful. Look how detailed. So I love that into it. I have a whole moon series happening here. Okay, so there's that one, and then look, this one is 60 miles off the surface. Like, oh, my God. Ready? Look. That's pretty Radio. I didn't. I didn't know the Moon was so musical.
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B
There's, like, music playing on, just comes off.
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A
Isn't that cool? Okay. I could play that whole entire thing. I just found it, like, so meditative and looking at it and imagining. And I think that's like. What's been happening is like our imaginations are going again. Some are still being skeptical, but I. I'm feeling more confident about what I'm seeing this go around. And then like, I'm so GLAD you're here, B.J. for many reasons, but this was last night. This is my last thing on the moon, you guys, so let's soak it in before we go crazy with other news. Okay?
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F
Did you see a difference, a big difference, between the far side of the Moon and the near side of the Moon? Was there a difference in feel or difference in look? What did you see?
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G
Well, Mr. President, we certainly did. And our science really set us up well to understand what they thought we might see. And. And the gravitational pull of the Earth has had a profound effect on the near side of the Moon, changing all those dark mares, those dark patches of the Moon you see from Earth. It's very different on the far side. While you see some small patches of those mare in deep craters, it's very much absent on that side. So that's really neat. And while I have the microphone, sir, I just want to thank you on behalf of Canada. The space leadership you spoke of from America truly is extraordinary. I've said this many times before. A nation that leads like that and creates and sets big goals for humanity that brings other countries along with it is truly incredible. And I know that's a very intentional, not a necessary decision, intentional decision to lead by example and to allow other countries like Canada to share our gifts and help you achieve these mutually beneficial goals, like establishing a presence on the Moon and eventually going to Mars. And Canadians are so proud to be a part of this program.
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F
Well, I have to say I spoke to a very special person, Wayne Gretzky, who I think you know, the Great One. And I spoke to your Prime Minister and many other friends I have in Canada. They are so proud of you, and you have a lot of courage. I'm not sure if they'd want to do that. I'm not even sure if the Great One would want to do that, to be honest with you. But you have a lot of courage doing what you're doing, a lot of bravery and a lot of. A lot of genius. But they're very, very Proud of you.
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A
I love their reactions too. That's so great. So I'm going to toss it to you BJ because listen, you are our favorite guest Canadian. So what do you want to say about that?
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D
I think it's, this is all so important. You know, during the 80s when we saw how much the space program had well progressed during that era after Apollo, it did something very important culturally. It gave people hope, something to look for, something we could all unify around. That's why the whole program with the cosmonauts was important in Canada. I mean, for you guys, it's small, but the Canada arm was a source of national pride. That was the big robotic arm on the space shuttle. And I think Trump people in his administration, Elon Musk people have not forgotten that era of the 80s and 90s before. We've lived in this sort of drivel of postmodern soup where everything is deconstructionist and everything is horrible. And it's so refreshing to see something that is aspirational and that's what we need to do. That's what's going to unify us and bring us all together and drown out some of the foreign adversarial voices that are trying to get us fighting with each other. So I think it's so refreshing.
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A
I agree. Marcella, thoughts on the moon?
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B
You know, so they, they went the further any humans had ever gone in a point in the moon. There was also an eclipse that they, they saw as well. And I mean it's amazing. I'm very proud of them and they're still going to hopefully Artemis 3 will land on the moon because we don't want this. It's than 50 years since this happened before this, the Apollo missions. And I hope that it will be soon, 2027, 2028 that you know, Artemis 3 goes and I, I really what I really loved beyond them being in the moon, beyond all the pictures and how fun they look and how happy they look is President Trump interviewing them. He did really well. He, he did does such a good job and they were laughing and I, I like that to be our country. You know, for a president to be talking to his astronauts, it's very positive.
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A
I agree Marcella. And like there was a point where they were introducing the pre Jared, I forget his name.
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B
Isaac.
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A
Isaacman. I was going to call him my orthodontist name, Isaacson back in the day anyway was, you know, letting them know that the President was coming on and they were just like, yeah, you know, like I love you know, we should feel that way and unite over these things. All right. So, Owen, are you satisfied that there's a dark side of the moon, that it exists?
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C
I don't know that I've really seen
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B
it yet, but Far side.
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C
Well, dark side, far side. You know, it depends on the time of day, I guess, but it's dark as far as what we can see from here. But, no, I think it's really happening, and I think it's great. I don't know who invited Canada, but
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A
your favorite president.
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D
Donuts, man.
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G
That's.
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D
That's what our contribution is.
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C
Hopefully it will bring us closer together.
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Yes, I agree. I agree.
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C
But I think it's a great mission. I think it's, you know, kind of this weird dichotomy with the Iran war and all the other stuff happening here where it's like they're both going at the same time. I think they might have even had two press conferences at the same time, like, on both topics. And it's just kind of like this weird, you know, you kind of almost wish it would be, like, the only thing happening so that the whole country would just be paying attention to that. But I think it's great to have that, those. These positive things, these big achievements. And, you know, it really does, I think, inspire a lot of people to think bigger about, you know, a lot of the types of things Elon is doing. You know, just save the world sort of thing, Just break out of anything that anyone's ever done before and do something brand new.
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A
I feel like it's been a long time, you know, since we've taken a beat to think about those things. And last night, you know, doing some preparation for today, and I was looking at all, oh, my God, there's so many amazing images out there right now of the moon and, you know, which one to pick and whatever. But I was just so, like. I was like this, like, looking, you know, and leaning in and just imagining. And I felt very emotional, which, you guys, I know, isn't unusual for me to be emotional, but, like, really just, like, emotional but, like, inspired. And then I was, oh, my God, all I have to do is say the name Scott, and I could burst into tears. Then I was thinking about Scott and what his reaction might be to it. I can imagine Scott got jazzed about these things, too. And I can imagine him seeing those images and being like, you know, wow. Like, did we ever think, you know, we'd get here to this? And that, you know, simulation aside, is pretty freaking amazing, you know, just that just, like, keep going forward. Like, don't stop. There was such a long pause on all of this for so many reasons, and now I'm, I'm, I'm enjoying that. Like, American pride or just like the exploration pride. I don't know. What do you think, Owen, about Scott's take?
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C
Oh, you probably would have been broadcasting from the space capsule again. I think we saw that recently and now I think he would have loved it and, you know, would have been excited about it and probably would have been watching some of it live, even to just see the latest.
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A
Yeah. So, okay, let's. Let's just shift gears a little. Don't forget tomorrow, hopefully double whiteboard day, in case you missed it. So, Marcela, can you. You lead us off with some kind of simple news before we get into bridge and power plant day?
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B
Okay. A federal court in Wisconsin denied the acquittal to a judge. That judge, as some of you remember, is Judge Dungan, or I. Sorry for the mispronunciation of her name. She was, she was a rogue judge that hit an illegal immigrant in her courtroom or, or, or had him go. There's video of it, had him go into, like, another exit, like a judge's exit. And ICE was unable to detain him and deport him. Eventually, you know, he, he was, you know, they, they were able to get him. But she basically faced federal court and she was convicted of helping and evading, you know, basically blocking.
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A
Yeah.
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B
A federal. The federal government from being able to detain this person. So she was trying to appeal the decision and appeal it through an acquittal. And the federal court yesterday in Wisconsin said, no, she will be convicted, and she stands convicted of felony obstruction for helping this undocumented immigrant. She says in her case that she was just. She claimed that she was just doing her job, but the jury decided otherwise.
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Yeah.
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B
And this is a federal court jury in Wisconsin that decided this.
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A
Oh, so what, I wonder. What do you know, what the charges could be like if. Could she go to jail?
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D
Yeah, the sentencing.
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B
Yeah, she, she's. It's a felony for obstruction of justice for her, especially because she is an officer of the court. So there is an added layer to that if you do that. She used her own power also to be able to do this. I mean, I don't know if President Trump feels nice about, you know, commuting her sentence or showing some kind of grace, but, you know, she, she will be convicted of it, and she is convicted of it, and I don't know her sentence, but I imagine that she could serve prison very far away from most people. You know, it's white collar sort of crime thing. And I'm sure they're keeping her. If she is going to be in prison, they're going to keep her away from most prisoners. Yeah, she was a federal judge, but
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A
still, it would be nice to set a precedent. I mean, the judges are out of their minds, so. All right, I'm happy about that.
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B
Yeah, it sets a president.
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C
I think we need to have more accountability for judges and I'm glad that they are going after this person, maybe just more as an example than anything else. I don't have anything personally against this person, but. But I do have things against what she did. And I think we've all been kind of frustrated of nobody impeaching Boasberg and all these other things, judicial abuse wise. And I know it's not the same thing, but at least there is a mechanism for holding judges accountable because up until now it's felt like there was none.
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A
Yep. Anything you want to add to that, BJ before we go to Owen's story?
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D
Yeah, I just wish we actually prosecuted people like that in Canada, but we don't because we don't believe in accountability here, which is why Canada's the disaster that it is. But I think also one of the things that's interesting is, you know, we have this phenomenon of why some judges give woke rulings in Canada. We discussed this on one of the podcasts I produced, not on Record, which is all, you know, defense about false accusations. And part of the problem has been that there are judges who actually fear for themselves from. They fear the woke mob targeting and harassing them. So sometimes they're giving rulings, they may not be so woke themselves, but they just want to avoid their family and themselves being targeted for harassment. So this is, I think, is a necessary pushback that shows that, oh, wait, there, there actually is opposition to this. So I think it's going to cause judges in the future maybe to have a little bit more confidence and to rule by the law in the cases where that doesn't happen, which. And by the way, I think those are rare and isolated cases in my experience. From what I know. I think the US is not far off of that. Yeah, you have some woke judges here and there, but they're few and far between. Would you agree with that now or no?
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B
You know, I, I would have agreed with you a few weeks ago, but as I was telling Erica about it, I went to a federal court. I won't mention where But I was surrounded by federal court judges and they, they are, there's something about Trump that does something to them. I have never seen it, I never saw it under Bush. I never saw under Obama, of course. But they have tds. A lot of them have tds. And they react in this very irrational way where they're not supposed to discuss politics yet they do. And so it seems like he pushes their buttons in a certain way and they react in an extreme way. So I think that it's important to reform the judiciary, to be non political because they're supposed to follow what the laws say regardless of who's in power.
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C
That's, it's supposed to be completely, you know, free of politics. It's just supposed to be following the rules and interpreting the law, just like the Supreme Court. But in many cases, it certainly doesn't seem that way. And I think it, I think we do have a problem with woke judges. I mean, I think the most recent example in my mind were the stories about how some of those Somali fraudsters that had been put on trial got really low sentences, like just six months or, you know, like just some short sentence for some multimillion dollar fraud. And that's clearly inconsistent with the standards of how it's been applied to other people that have committed that same crime. And so to me, that's even worse. It is bad that they say things just because it shows that they're biased, which means they're likely to be biased on the bench. But when they actually are biased on the bench, that's even worse. And so I do think we have a big problem with that. I'm sure it's different depending on where you live, but you know, I live in a pretty liberal area, so I have to worry about that. You know, if I had a self defense shooting or something, I, I would not feel good about my chances because, you know, I don't think it would be like that Wisconsin judge that kind of took care of Kyle Rittenhouse. I don't think I get the same treatment.
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A
I, I'm going to move on from this and come to you in a second, Owen, but I only just recently learned that there's plenty of judges in our country that aren't even attorneys. They're just judges and they, they don't even have a law degree. I'm like, what? It's pretty amazing. And they are exceptionally stupid people because I've seen some of their cases and I'm like, you know, don't we have enough problems? Like, is this real like, can I just go be a judge? I'll do it. I have plenty of opinions. And like, I always state I'm a Libra. I'm very fair and balanced.
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D
So are those judges who are elected or appointed, because we have that here with our justice of the peace.
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A
I'm not sure, but there's both.
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C
We have both. I mean, there are some that are elected. Most of the local ones I think are elected in some way. But I'm a little discouraged by that just because it's the way it's presented to you is just like a whole bunch of judges and you just say yes or no. And I'm pretty sure they all just get reappointed all the time. Like, reelected all the time. Like, there's no information about them. You don't really know which ones you want to get rid of or not. And again, depending on where you live. Like when I live in, near the Chicago area or in Illinois, where it's very liberal, I don't think there are any Republican judges or Republican candidates like that. Like, so I don't feel like I even have a choice. It's like I could try to just vote everybody out every time, which is basically what I do. But, you know, it's kind of like I don't have any good choices. And I think it might be. It might be true if you're a Democrat living in a red state too. I mean, it's like, you know, there's not really a lot of choice. And I think there are some places that try to rank the judges according to, like, how well they conform to the law. But I think even those ranking services are pretty biased. So I don't really trust those either.
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A
All right, I'm going to move off of this, but you guys, it's a lot of food for thought. And so if our elections aren't secure and our judges are corrupt, I'm not saying everybody, you guys know what I mean. Then we have a problem feeling like free Americans that have have laws and the Constitution on our side. All right, so, Owen, take us to a story, would you?
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C
Sure. So we've got Zoran Mount Dami coming out with his new racial equity and tax proposals. He has a racial equity plan for more equitable future that prompts has prompted very quick Department of Justice pushback. So apparently they're going to be examining disparities in housing, education and income according to some sort of true cost of living measure. And Mamdani claims that black and Latino New Yorkers are being pushed out of the city, it has 200, over 200 goals across seven domains. And Harmeet Dhillon responded pretty much right away. Sounds fishy. Or illegal. We'll review. Critics, of course, are calling it racist, which I guess I would count myself among those. And so, you know, he's trying to push the DEI stuff, it seems like. And, you know, he's also pretty much trying to go after the white people, essentially, in, you know, in terms of going after rich people, going after white areas. So it definitely seems very racist. And then in his tax proposal, you know, it's more pushing people out, essentially. It's like he's putting in an estate tax with an exemption up to 750,000, but there's a top rate of 50%. So he wants to take half your money when you die if you're a rich person. And he wants to have a 2% city income tax over $1 million up to 5.88%, and corporate tax of 11.5%, possibly a 9.5% property tax hike. So, yeah, he's really trying to jack up taxes and do it in a racist way.
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A
Wow. Okay, so I'm gonna go to you first, Marcella, on that. And so we're talking about New York, New York shot.
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B
But he has a nice smile, a very creepy smile. But that's the only thing I could say nice about him.
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C
He.
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B
I mean, at least he didn't pretend to be something else. You know, he said what he was, which is a communist. He said, you know, I'm very socialist, I'm very liberal. Vote for me, you'll get all these things from the rich. So, I mean, at least he keeps his promises to his. To the people that elected him. But, you know, I disagree with him completely. He's. He's destroying New York City. But he. He, again, he was elected.
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A
So Lyric Flower says, all I can see is him eating with his hands and making that. I mean, I don't know it. So what about, like, the firemen and the police people that you see standing there or sitting on the floor like, stop it, you sheep. Stand up and get a fork. I am so over this.
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B
He's one of the people. And that's how it's supposed to. You're supposed to eat like that.
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A
Yeah, but he's having the firemen and police and other people eating with their hands and stand and doing pray, doing these prayers. Knock it off, you guys. Like, and if you can't just, like, be a freaking American and not go along like little sheep, you're in the Wrong job and you're in the wrong state. See, I told you. I'm emotional.
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B
But I mean, I get frustrated with New Yorkers. New York City people is like the rich who live there who have all this wealth. Where were they? Why didn't they put on a candidate? Did they vote also for him? I mean, it's, it's ridiculous. Like, obviously some of them did.
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A
Yeah. And then they go to their Palm beach home all winter and then they go to their weekend house. Everybody who's rich in New York has like a weekend house, upstate New York. Or they come here to the Jersey Shore. Like, no, go sit in your filth and go eat with your hands. And that's where you should be. Don't get me going. I'm too close to New York. I can't stand it. All right, bj, you take me away from here.
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D
Yeah, it's. And this could be an hour, two hour long presentation because there's so many things going on with this. But you guys are doing exactly what we did in Canada 15 years ago. And it's terrible. It's frustrating to watch. And you know, you mentioned Palm Beach. I was actually with some very wealthy Palm Beach New Yorkers a couple weeks ago, and I was in Florida at a couple of meetings of people's homes. And they're, they're with us. They're freaking out. They don't know what to do. And they thought that they could get involved and help move the political needle. But I think there's just a failure to understand what's happening in terms of the ground game, the philosophy that is brainwashing people and bringing them into this collectivist worldview. This is why I talk about on my feeds often Alexander Dugan. That's kind of the philosophy from it, which is to slip in communism under a veil of Christianity to make everybody collectivist. This has been good. They're doing that on the right now, but they did, they've done that on the left for decades. So that's that. Two movies, one screen that, that Scott often referenced. And you're seeing the very, very dangerous implications of what that leads to. And you know, in terms of. Marcel, I love you. I'm going to disagree with you just a little bit. I'm going to mostly agree with you, but slightly disagree with you. I don't think he was honest with who he is because of his ties to Sir Hajwa Hajj and various, quite frankly, terrorist organizations is what they are. He's an Islamist, but he thought he and his team thought the acceptable veil they can use to get him in office is to say he's a communist, which is. I mean, if that doesn't scare you, that their calculus was, oh, let's just go in as communists, because that will be acceptable in New York City. That is the. The level of ideological rot in that city. And it's going to be destroyed. It really is. It's going to look like it is. It's going to look like Bogota 30 years ago, but way, way worse. It's going to get very, very violent and sectarian.
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A
It started with de Blasio and it went down fast with de Blasio because I, like, literally was going in all the time. And when de Blasio got there, I mean, I. I'll tell you, within six weeks, I noticed a difference. And in six months, it was fully disgusting. And it has just declined from there. It's disgusting. I'm sorry. I love New York, you guys, and I love New Yorkers, so don't get me wrong. But what you people that live there that voted for these imbeciles, you know, I don't know what to tell you. I don't know how to help you.
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C
Well, I think they have to learn their economics lesson yet again, that when you push out the billionaires and you push out the businesses, you also push out the jobs. And, you know, the way to help the poor people is to give them more opportunities, to give them better jobs, to give them the way that they can better themselves. And they're going the opposite direction now, and they have these weird, totally uneducated views. Like that viral video that went from that teacher in New York City, like, oh, we can just run all the big companies. It's like, no. Well, first of all, that's not how it works. You don't get to choose that. But second, even if you did, it would fail immediately and you would ruin it. But of course, you're a New York City teacher, so you have no idea.
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A
And like, the companies are leaving their companies. They just take their company with them. Silly goose.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Oh, my God, it's so sad. All right, let's.
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D
Have you guys ever spoken to people on the woke left in New York? Because I have recently I've been trying to interact with them. So for people who are not on that side who are listening, it's really odd. You know what the number one thing they are obsessed with and why they're angry. They think they're angry with Trump. And why they voted for Mamdani.
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A
Why?
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D
Because women's Reproductive rights.
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A
Oh, yeah. No.
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D
How crazy are you? What are you talking about? And that civil rights are under attack. And it's. They actually. Which believe it. It's wild.
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But then they can't.
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C
Zero power to do one.
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H
That's right.
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C
Any possible thing about that. It's going to be a state issue. It would be hokul, if anything, or whoever's running to replace Hochul. But, you know, I could understand in a liberal state why they might want to make sure they have a liberal governor or liberal legislature, but not mayor. Mayor doesn't have anything to do with that.
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A
Yeah, but he's doing a good job gaslighting people that he does because he's like, I made it known to the White House that I'm not happy. Like. Like, okay, well, I made it known to my pillow that I'm upset about the war. Okay, like, what are you talking about? But he is gaslighting. And never forget, like, they. When I say they, I'm talking about Islam. Okay. Which is him. They have a plan, you guys. So they are absolutely showing up in positions of local power, and then they're just bringing in more people. And their goal is to take over this country. Okay? So never forget that. You don't have to be like, oh, you know, I don't want to be mean. Like, there's. They have one common goal they're very unified on, and that's what they're doing. And they're doing it.
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B
So. So explain to me, bj, this, as Erica was saying right now, if the reproductive rights is the reason they voted for him, do they not understand that he. He is an Islamist or even Islam itself is not very liberal in regards to reproductive rights.
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D
Yeah, they don't. They can't process that. And this is a lot of what Scott talked about. What we learn in hypnosis is their framing of the world. They. That they cannot process that idea. Remember Scott mentioned this before. My instructor explained this. You could show them direct evidence right in front of their face. You can pull evidence. I mean, it's different for you. You're a lawyer. You're trained to do this. But you can show them direct evidence from the Holy Land foundation trial from the 90s, which showed they have a specific mandate in their own words, utilizing political entryism. And the tactic was to weaponize Israel versus Palestine to get Americans fighting with each other. And that's how they would divide America and take it over from within. It's in their own words. And you could show them that they still won't be able to process it because it doesn't align with their framing of the world because they have not been primed to understand that's what's going on. It's really kind of wild. So I'm trying to talk more and more with these people, being very gently, being very gentle and not kind of push them too much and to get an understanding of the world. But that's how they view things. It's really wild.
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It's really weird. And you know that. And I, I made a post. I, I don't know if it was yesterday or last night. I don't know what day it is. But, you know, feminism by design was meant to destroy us also, you know, fighting with each other. Feminism is an absolute cancer on this country and this world. Like, look around the world. Look at what happened. Look at, you know, the family dynamic. Look at, I mean, the, the best picture is, you know, all these liberal Karens wishing horrendous things on Caroline Levitt and her pregnancy and her baby because they don't like her boss or her politics. And these, this is like the feminist Democrats. Like, you're so full of it. I'm so enraged today. I'm just like, had it. I need more moon videos. But, yeah, so everything is by design. Like, everything. And I, you know, I keep saying to people when we have these discussions, I was like, okay, so the last two people standing are going to be Israel and Palestine. Like, everyone else would be wiped out. How do you think Israel and Palestine is going to go down? Like, if those two have to fight each other, I'm like, they're the only ones, for lack of better words, breeding. And then they're going to be the last two standing, and it's not going to be pretty. So, I don't know, have more babies. And I, I gotta change the subject because I feel like the, the rage.
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D
Sean. Sean says he blames Mary Tyler Moore. I think that's completely unfair, but that is a funny.
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A
Come on. Poor Mary.
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B
This news goes with this. Governor DeSantis in Florida passed a law against Sherry. Sharia law being any type of law in Florida. And I found that to be one. I mean, how could it become law in Florida? But you know what? Good. Good for them. They're doing that.
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How could we be at a point where this is a discussion, Sharia law in Florida? Again, people, what is happening?
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B
It won't happen. It won't happen.
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A
No, but I mean, look at Texas. Look at everything that you guys. You know, I could do a five hour show on this. But, like, I want you all to remember something. This is not normal. And we are getting used to hearing stuff like this. Don't ever get used to it. And get comfortable. This is like, again, like BJ saying, a systematic takedown of our values, our morals, our constitution, our way of life, our country. So you have to understand, like, oh, you know, let the Islam people into your church. Church to pray. No, they're burning down your church. I'm not saying everybody. You know, there's mama signs. Okay. I'm just saying, like, you can't ever, like, let this just, like, wash over you as something you're just. You always hear, like. Yeah, you always hear. Because it's your problem.
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C
Have you even tried on a hijab? I mean, they have some pretty fast.
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A
Sometimes when I feel extra bloated, it might be nice, but. No, Owen, no, thank you.
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D
I love the rainbow. The rainbow jobs that. The gay E. Moms.
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A
Oh, yeah, you'll look like a flashing rainbow as you get thrown off of a building. It'll be amazing. Oh, yeah.
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B
We can talk about Iran then.
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A
Oh, can we?
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D
More positivity.
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A
Okay, listen, if you have enjoyed any part of this show ever in life, could you please hit the, like, the thumbs up, the subscribe. Share us with your friends. Tag a friend if you're on X. We really appreciate it. All right, I'm gonna take a little sip and I'm gonna play a clip, I think. Oh, my God, you guys, wait, let me find my clip. I'll probably turn the whole show off.
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B
Let's take a sip, you guys.
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A
Why am I so worked up? Every. All right, let's take an interstitial sip. Ready? Let's go to Erica,
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B
Even Owen.
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Okay, my clips are loading for a second because. Oh, and you took a sip.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Thank you. Okay, so moving on to Iran. Yes, you guys, today might be power plant and bridge day.
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C
Not just that, the latest statement, true social, that came out this morning was a whole civilization will die tonight.
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B
Hi.
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Tonight. All right, Owen. Owen, we're getting to it. Oh, let me warm up. Here we go.
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H
This is a critical period. They have a period of. Well, till tomorrow at 8 o'. Clock. I gave them an extension. They asked for an extension of seven days. Right. I said, steve, give them ten days. Ten days is up. Actually, today. So I guess gave him 11. I guess indirectly, I thought it was inappropriate the day after Easter. I want to be a nice person. They have until tomorrow. Now we'll see what happens. I can tell you they're negotiating we think in good faith we're going to find out. We're getting the help of some incredible countries that want this to be ended because it affects them also. A lot of people are affected by this. But we're giving them, we're giving them till tomorrow, 8 o' clock Eastern Time. And after that they're going to have no bridges, they're going to have no power plants. Stone Ages. Yeah.
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A
Okay, so hang with me. Okay, so that was last night. He was talking about today prime time tonight at 8pm so then we say, well, okay, you know, I've heard people say, well what if Israel does something ahead of what he's saying? Because this is like a two party war. So like, you know, we can say this is what we're thinking. And then if Israel goes off half cocked and does something, doesn't that mess up our negotiations? So then I put the news on, I'm on Twitter on X. And then there's this clip official confirming
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I
to Fox News that the Israelis have started strikes, strikes against Iranian rail infrastructure. Remember earlier today the Israelis warned civilians to stay off the trains in Iran. They have started to target the bridges of the rail system in Iran as we speak. Additionally, you have these strikes overnight against Kharg island, the largest export facility in Iranian territory, accounting for around 90% of Iran's oil exports. And you have ongoing US and Israeli strikes against Iranian military infrastructure structure. What we are looking at right now is a staging operation the United States and Israel are preparing. If a deal is not made, there will be an increase in strikes against the Iranian regime. The President described it as power plant day and bridge day to go after this critical infrastructure inside of Iran. But what's very interesting here, I spoke with a high ranking source last night and I asked what happens next if the President orders these strikes. And they said again, this is the Achilles heel of the regime targeting energy infrastructure. And what it may actually do is force their hand at the negotiating table. Because again, the President has, time and time again, even before Operation Epic Fury began, preferred a diplomatic option. But the Iranians have been unwilling to take a diplomatic option. And that is how we ended up in this Operation Epic Fury that is unfolding before our eyes as we. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. The message for everyone paying big wireless, one way too much, please, for the love of everything good in this world, stop with Mint. You can get premium wireless for just $15 a month. Of course, if you enjoy overpaying, no judgments.
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But that's weird.
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3 month plan equivalent to $15 per month Required intro rate first 3 months only, then full price plan options available, taxes and fees extra. See full terms@mint mobile.com oh, so I was like, okay, and Israel maybe had announced Railroad Day. I don't know. So that happened. And one more clip because then our president, for those of you in America, put this post out and listen, listen for what he says.
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I'm sorry, Trey.
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D
There's some breaking news on Truth Social.
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C
Ainsley, do you want to read that?
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Sure.
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So Donald Trump just posted this. A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have complete and total regime change where different, smarter and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionary wonderful can happen. Who knows? We will find out tonight. One of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world. 47 years of extortion, corruption and death will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran.
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All right, so. Oh, and I'm going to come to you first. So that was like, that was a lot. So, you know, what's your, what's your take on Honestly, you know, let's all remember the fog of war. It's moving fast. We don't know what Trump and Netanyahu are saying behind the scenes. We, you know, this could be very well coordinated and a whole entire thing. So given that, how are you feeling?
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C
Well, I mean, first I would say, I think all these attacks over the last day or so have been coordinated. I don't think Israel is just going off and doing whatever they want. I think they clearly have to stay coordinated with the US otherwise they, you know, might hit each other or do some really bad things. So I'm pretty sure it's all coordinated and planned together. I think Hegseth said something along those lines that he said there's going to be like, I think he said the highest volume of strikes yesterday that there has been so far. So I think this was all planned. And when they call it a ceasefire, it's like it's not really a ceasefire. Both sides are still shooting each other and bombing each other and firing missiles at each other. So I don't think there really has been much of a ceasefire. I think they're just, Trump is turning it into this apocalyptic sort of sounding thing, and I think it is all a negotiating tactic. I think he's trying to get them to come to the table and to get rid of some of their demands to try and come up with something that we could call a deal that would be acceptable. But I think so far they haven't. So far they've been saying we want to be paid back for the war. We want to promise you're never going to attack us again. We want all these different things. And so they're just not ready to give up. And I don't think they will be. It doesn't seem like they're willing to compromise the way that Trump is going to need them to in terms of calling this off. Now, given that or that being said, I do think there is still a good chance that some last minute deal will be made or he might say we're having good talks and we're going to talk another five days or something. But you know, as far as I'm concerned, the attacks have already started. So I don't, you know, it could be that we haven't had any power plants yet, but we did hit Carg island again, from what I've read, it doesn't include the oil infrastructure in Carg Island. So I think he's still refraining from that and I doubt he would do that just because I think that's, you know, he wants the oil to flow. He wants the oil market to be healthy. So I can't really see Trump going after the oil wells or, you know, the processing facilities and things. But I suppose you never know. I think, you know, I do think it's more likely than not in my mind that there will be an attack tonight and they will probably take out at least one power plant. Maybe he'll try and do a small one at first just to see what the reaction is rather than taking them all out at once. But you know, I think they are going to be taking out a bunch of bridges and railways and all these other things probably just to disable any real military operations that would allow Iran to move things around easily. So that's the most likely thing. But I don't know for sure.
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I'm going to toss to Marcella and then BJ you can put a final thought on this portion of it. So, Marcella, what are your thoughts?
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Well, you talked about that you're surprised that Israel hit the railroads. They gave an advance warning. I think you're surprised because of the fact that the US had said that they weren't, they were negotiating. However, during this negotiation, Iran has hit Israel many times and not railways or bridges, but actually people's apartments. Yes, that are civil, like, not, not anything to do, although they're also hitting their neighbors like Kuwait, dishalous nation plants. And I mean, it's a chaos in all of the, the Gulf, you know, and they are very much with the US and with Israel, which you never, you never seen such connection before. It's like Iran made everybody get along because everybody's going against them. But, you know, I think the showing of Israel and then the bombing in Carg island by the U.S. i believe this morning is just kind of a sample of, like, negotiating tactics, of, hey, this is what we could possibly do, and we hardly have done anything. So do you want to negotiate? However, Trump is really, this is the hardest negotiation he will ever deal with because these individuals that are part of the leadership of Iran are ideologues. They believe that, you know, that their death is the best thing possible. So you're not dealing with Venezuela, you're not dealing with Cuba. You're really. And I'm sure he's aware of that. And that's what's really hard to deal with people that rather die and be martyrs than live. So hopefully there is like, he was talking about Trump recently was talking about how smart that the third regime is. So hopefully they are smart enough to know and survive and listen to Trump and be able to negotiate something.
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A
B.J. i'm going to come to you.
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D
Yeah, I think I can talk about this forever. I'll make it as short as I can, but I think this is a shot across the bow. This is, as Scott always talked about, Trump will always take the strongest position, no matter what. And this is a good example of that. And look, both America and Israel understand how Iran operates because they've been dealing with this for 50 years. Once they get backed into a corner, they just delay, delay, delay. Oh, maybe we'll talk, we'll go to the UN we'll get a resolution. Because the Iranians know that administrations change every four, sometimes eight years. So the time is on their side. Because they're a dictatorship that oppresses their own people. They're going to be there in their minds forever until, what is it, the 12th, the 13th Imam comes back. That's the civilization that he's referring to. The extremists form of, of Shia Islam that is very different than Sunni that has this underlying philosophy that's driving it. Right. I also hear, you know, I hear this a lot. You know, it's the both sides and Israel's war. It's not Israel's war. The two sides are Iran And America, Israel just happens to be the aircraft carrier and the, the army that actually puts their, themselves in a heart harm's way. Not the, in this case, the Americans, like you have Israeli special forces on the ground in Tehran trying to weed out IRGC operatives because one of the most senior IRGC operatives early on in the conflict defected to Israel and is consulting with them and the Americans because they know everybody in the Middle east knows it's enough of this regime that has been trying to hold everybody in the region hostile, not just Israel. It's the death to America, people. The other thing, I think this is important, just a little side note that's related to all of this. This is kind of the, I think when people are looking at this in a linear frame, and I do prefer, as Scott always talked about, the systems framing of everything that's going on. And what is this all about? Like, what is all, everything that's going on? There's many, many different reasons that America went into Iran. And one of the primary reasons that, that I don't hear anybody talking about now, not saying you guys, but people in general, is China. That's what this is about. Trump always focused on China as a massive economic threat to the United States. And what has he done with Venezuela and with Iran? He's cutting off 70% of China's oil supply. They've already suspended the military activities in the South China Sea. You don't see any more posturing of, oh, we're going to invade Taiwan anymore. And what they're. What I think the problem is going to be. And this is why you see this tug of war that's frustrating for those of us who know the region a little bit better, is the consequences of the Americans not finishing the job, which is something, because there's always the push and pull from the left that causes us to not finish the job. If here's the scenario, tell me if you agree with it. If they do not finish the job and get rid of this regime, what will happen? Well, we could all very easily see China moving in. Like they've moved into Afghanistan and gotten $3 trillion worth of rare earth minerals and other natural resources in Afghanistan secured for themselves. Well, how long will it take China to contact the irgc, who they all have relationships with, and say, you know, that's a nice country you had. It's unfortunate it's been bombed to smithereens. We can maybe help you rebuild it. And what would be the consequence of that? Well, then China now controls the Strait of Hormuz. That Ends imec, which is what this is all about. The India Middle East European Economic Corridor, which was the hedge against the Belt and Rose Initiative. So we'll be in a worst position. This is why it pairs with the Mano Doctrine and imac is all about isolating China, which has been an economic and potentially military threat to the United States for some time. It's not about Iran and Israel. There's something much broader here going on the geopolitical space. Right. And this is what the Abraham Accords were. So Iran is right at the center of this. And that is why it's so amazing to see so many countries around the Middle east say, okay, you know what? We need to evolve and get away from this Islamist garbage. The last country that's really standing now is Iran. And they have been causing chaos all across the west for 47 years. That's why we closed our embassy here, because the Iranian embassy was used as a military outpost for surveillance of Iranians in Canada. Marcel, I'm sure, you know, Iranians who know this, they would surveil the Iranian community, and if somebody stepped out of line or criticized the regime in Canada, their family in Iran would be arrested and tortured. This is putting an end to all of this. That's just kind of my brief. There's so much more to it, but I hope that helps a little bit.
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I know it's a. It's a good perspective. It's some like, you know, we're so focused on these particular countries that sometimes you forget, like, okay, wait a minute, like, who else is watching this? Like, what other superpowers are watching this? Like Russia and China, everybody else and, you know, uae, everyone's, you know, got a dog in the fight. So that is a good perspective to think of.
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D
And, you know, one more thing, just to put it back to Scott. When I. When we see these perspectives of, you know, the, like I see this makes me crazy. The. It's Israel's war. I think that lends itself to something that Scott often discussed on his stream. Right. And something, again, we learn in hypnosis. So much of what he discussed, by the way, comes from hypnosis. It's amazing. What do people care about? People care about the things that they hear most frequently because if you hear it enough times, you're going to adopt it. It's just natural. You can't avoid it. Right. And of the 150 countries that receive foreign aid from the United States, everybody is hyper focused on one country the size of El Salvador, which pays it back by buying Military equipment and testing it. And that is a sign that it is not organic, that these are assigned opinions that are being broadcasted around the Internet. And that just goes to show what Scott was trying to show people, how difficult it is that it can happen to all of us. If we hear things over and over and over again, we're just naturally going to start to absorb it or elements of that perspective for ourselves. And I think that's what we're seeing.
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So, you know, what, what about. I want to bring it back domestic to me, to Erica. What about the sleeper cells?
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That's right. That's right. We have, you know, in Canada, the official numbers I know are grossly underestimated because I know some people within law enforcement and within, you know, people I met when I was, when I ran for, for politics that still kind of help out. We have up to 100,000 Hezbollah, which Hezbollah is Iran Hezbollah fighters in Canada. Just in Canada. What do you have in the United States? That's why they took out this guy a couple of weeks ago. And I was like, Tucker Carlson was in shock. Oh, how they took out this guy. The guy was the head of sleeper cells around the world. That was his job. That's what the Israelis found out. It's. It's this company, this symbiotic relationship where Israelis know the on the ground intel because they have the many Persian Jews as well that help get information for them, and then they send it to the United States and the two of them coordinate an act. That's how this all works. So it's more than just an aircraft carrier, but that's why they targeted this guy, because you have sleeper cells all over the United States and nobody knows who they are, so they need to at least cut the, the head of the snake off. Right.
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So I want to, you know, so to, you know, today is a pivotal day. Every day. Every day is pivotal. You know, obviously, in an ongoing war, it's pivotal to us because Trump gave us such a specific, you know, time and date and, you know, and then all hell breaks loose and the Stone Age happens. So I want us all to, like, manage our emotions as best as we can because, you know, we tend to get, like, really worked up. I can, you know, speak for myself. Like, I get, like, a little anxious about things. But, you know, you're safe right now. You know, don't, don't get yourself overly worked up. You know, we will be back tomorrow to talk about what today brought or didn't bring. And it's just going to be Ongoing and changing every day. So, you know, keep your emotions in check for the long run. Okay. Because this is going to be a very long, drawn out thing. Even if we leave Iran and all of that, there's still a lot of cleanup to do and managing and what happens next. I know Trump's going to meet with Chi soon. Marcella, did you want to say something? I see you leaning in.
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B
Oh, no, no, it's just. Just reading that a lot of the sleeper cells are in New Jersey. From Andy.
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We are locked and loaded. Come on.
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D
You know, Erica, if I, if I can help you, because I would love that. Yeah, no, I understand. And you know, Scott and many other people kind of explain this, that anxiety comes from living in future outcomes and usually negative potential future outcomes. But as somebody who's learned about this most of my life and, you know, saw behind the gears, behind the machine on this issue involved in politics, I gotta tell you, things have never been so good. Things have never been so positive. This is the bump. These are the bumps in the road that lead to the golden age. And the golden age is a free Middle east, much like a free Latin America. That's very pro America. Like, it's. I can't believe we're in this state where a year from now, you and I may be considering, oh, maybe I'm going to go to Venezuela or Cuba for vacation. Like, things are so good right now that it's very easy for us to get pulled into the weeds with negative narratives. As I saw with some people on the west coast of Florida, they think the world's collapsing. I had to go out for them for beers and say, what are you talking about, man? Yeah, there's friction. But the other side of this friction is Trump is dealing with things that have been left over from the 20th century and were never dealt with. He's ending it all, which is what we've all wanted for such a long time. So I think we should enjoy this moment.
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And, and you guys, a lot of us feel differently than all of us here. Okay, so like EJ's opinion, Marcella's, Owens, mine, they're just our opinions. Like, I, I'm probably going to have a guest on very soon who I think might feel very differently than bj, and that's fine too. And I want to hear from him too, you know, So I think take what you want from all different people and then make sense of it yourself. Always do your own research. Never let your opinions be assigned to you. It's so important that you dig around and there's so much BJ saying today that makes so much sense to me and things that I haven't thought about enough. So I will make sure, like, I look into those things more for my own sake and I encourage you to do the same. And, and all we can do right now is trust this process. There's nothing else we can do but trust and hope that they're doing the right things and the best outcome will happen. Owen, do you want to say anything before we close out?
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D
No.
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C
I do think things are going to get better. This is a temporary thing. It's going to pass. I would say it's still probably most likely the next couple of weeks and it'll wrap up one way or the other. But certainly I would say within the next couple of months it's going to wrap up one way or the other and then this will all be in the rearview mirror. So I don't think we need to worry too much. I think we've had a few incidents on domestic soil, but nothing major. And to me that means either they didn't have all those sleeper cells or the FBI is doing a good job stopping it. So, you know, trust in what has been happening, certainly be careful. And I would still advise people not to be in any loud, large crowds right now. But, you know, I think if we were going to have all these massive 911 style attacks, I think we would have had them by now.
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D
That's right, yeah. Erica, one thing I always love to say, true suffering is the attempt to control the uncontrollable. You can't control what's going on in the Middle East.
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A
That's right.
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D
The only thing you can do is focus on your life and your loved ones and the people around you. And I think if we all do that and we're patient and I don't think any of us have any massive distrust in what Trump, Trump is trying to do. Just have his back. I think he's got our interest at heart. I think it's all work out.
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Always best to have your president's back, if you can try. Corky, to you over there. The reason the YouTube comments are turned off after the show is because they were being used to just basically criticize us in the beginning. So it, there's no need for that.
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D
That's YouTube.
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A
That's just the way YouTube is its own little brainchild. So, you know, maybe we'll turn them on again one day. But, you know, right now we're just like, I don't know, you know, if you guys are gonna talk about this show and topics. That's amazing. But if it's like to criticize us or you don't like what we're doing, it was just like, that's not helpful. So we hope to turn them back on again. Okay, it's 11 o'. Clock. I thank you guys so much. The three of us will be back tomorrow. You know, listen, all things depending, double whiteboard is the plan. And then we're going to talk about the news. And we appreciate you all so much. And let's. Bj, thank you so, so much. You know, we hope to see you again next week. Of course. And you guys check out honkingforfreedom.com too, okay? Make sure we all support.
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D
And there's another amazing book that I have right beside me. This one here, too.
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A
The best. The best. Okay, guys, thank you so much for being here. We will see you tomorrow. Be extra useful today. Like, be useful to yourself. Turn off the machines, turn off the devices, go breathe some air, Clean out a drawer, donate some clothes, whatever you got to do. But let's all give a closing sip to Scott. We love you so much. And to our beloved Shelley. And we will see you guys in the morning. Let's be useful. And to Scott.
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C
All right, to Scott.
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Thank you, guys. Oh, and Marcel, I love you so much. I'll see you later.
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D
Bye, guys.
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A
Bye, guys.
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D
Bye.