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Erica
Okay.
Corey DeAngelis
If you could figure it out on the fly. But you don't have to.
Erica
Oh, my God. Welcome, everybody. It's 10 o' clock on the East Coast. That's where I am. On The Jersey Shore, May 14th. Why am I always shocked every day that it's the next day other than it was yesterday? We have Corey DeAngelis back with us. Our school choice. What do they call you?
Corey DeAngelis
The Angel Evangelist. The School Choice Evangelist.
Erica
School Choice Evangelist. The angel of School choice. And Owen's with us. Marcella's in court, so we hope she's kicking butt today with her court case as she's leading the charge. And I am not repeating this sip. For the fourth time today, you guys, we have a freshie. Okay. I don't know what this one is,
Owen
but I'll believe it when I see it.
Erica
I know. If it switches, then we know. Okay, here we go.
Marcella
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Erica
Oh, my God. He's such a dad joke. I love him. So you guys seem like he was
Owen
really having fun that day.
Erica
I know he did. I was like, wait, do I remember why this blanket's on his head? So we have Corey back with us. We're so excited. Last time he was no Michael Malice was on. I forgot to show this picture, so Corey just sent it to me. So did you guys know Corey and his beautiful wife? What's her name? I'm sorry.
Corey DeAngelis
Miranda.
Erica
Miranda. I was so close what I was going to say, okay, look how gorgeous. Okay, look at.
Corey DeAngelis
I'm glad you didn't guess and get it wrong, right?
Erica
She'd be like, who the heck.
Corey DeAngelis
Who what?
Erica
So look who officiated their wedding. Can you guys see that?
Corey DeAngelis
The man Myth, the legend.
Erica
Yes, Michael Malice. I am obsessed. I wish I was at this wedding in the worst way. So we love that. Corey, thank you for coming back. And I just want to let everyone know that Corey has to get out sharp at 10:25. So you guys, you can watch the time for me. Okay, Andy Wang, if you're in the chat. So, as you know, Corey's our school choice king. He is fighting for everybody's children to have better educations and to have choice and to, you know, not have to be indoctrinated by what's happening in the public schools. So we were talking before this show and we're going to just kind of jump right into it. Corey and I did see in the news, which I think is huge, is that New York State has now opted in to the school choice program, which is crazy because New York's crazy. So congratulations to New York and to the students there. So what say you about this exciting news?
Corey DeAngelis
Yeah. So New York is now the second
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Democrat led state to opt into Trump's new school choice program.
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For listeners, it's, it's basically a federal
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tax credit that was passed in the big beautiful bill which means up to
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$1,700 can be written off on your
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taxes if you donate it to a scholarship granting organization each year.
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For a household, it's double that because
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there's two heads of household, it's $3,400 a year.
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And the scholarship granting organizations can then
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go and give these scholarships to kids in states that decide to opt in.
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And, and it's a dollar for dollar tax credit, meaning if you donate the 3400, well, when taxes come around and you do them in April, you're going to get that full 3400 back. So basically it's the best incentive that
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can be created for charitable contributions.
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And you know, you're either going to give your money to the government and they're going to light it on fire, or you're going to give it to
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a scholarship granting organization so a kid can get a shot at school choice.
Corey DeAngelis
Well, earlier this year, Governor Jared Polis out of Colorado said this is a no brainer decision. And he said he would be crazy not to participate because there's this kind of irresistible incentive to opt in because anybody can donate and get the credit
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whether your state opts in or not.
Corey DeAngelis
So if Gavin Newsom of California, you know, wants to go kicking and screaming and never comes along, well, what would end up happening is his constituents, residents of California could still donate to scholarships. They would Just go to kids in Florida and Texas and other red states
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and now New York and Colorado as well.
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And so Kathy Hochul, being in a deep blue state, she, she read the tea leaves as well and said, you know what? Why would I shoot myself in the foot? This is additional $. These are additional dollars that can flow into our state for scholarships. You can also use them. You know, if you, if you're enrolled in the public school, you could have
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a scholarship granting organization that decides to
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give funding to kids in public schools for tutoring or for, you know, after school programs and stuff like that. I think most of it will go
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to private education, but, you know, the
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school districts could theoretically set up their
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scholarship granting organizations as well.
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So I think that might be why
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some Democrats are coming along.
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And Kathy Hochul, it was noted in the Wall Street Journal that she made this decision after her primary candidate dropped out. And so what that tells me is she sees it as a political winner in the general election, but maybe not
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in the primary where she's getting flanked from the left.
Corey DeAngelis
But even in a deep blue state like New York, that you have a politician feel compelled to support school choice in at least some form, that is a sign of good things to come. I think all 50 states will opt
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in at some point.
Corey DeAngelis
It may not be immediate. You think about the 21 drinking age. You know, that, that was, that was a state by state, quote, unquote decision. But it was, they kind of had their arms twisted because of, it was
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tied to federal highway funding.
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And, and not all, not every state came along. I think, like Wyoming was one of the holdouts and it took about four years. But after four or so years, every state decided that 21 was going to
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be the drinking age.
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And so I think you're going to see a similar pattern emerge where we've had all the red states opt in.
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Well, except for Vermont. And, you know, he's in Bernie Sanders territory.
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The governor of Vermont is a Republican.
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Actually.
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He, he hasn't decided to opt in and he might be waiting until after,
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you know, election day to do so.
Corey DeAngelis
And they have until the end of 2026. So maybe that's what's happening in some of these blue states, too. Maybe some of the Democrat governors think they need to wait. But I think Jared Polis, he thinks he's going to run for president probably in 2028. So he might be trying to position himself as a moderate among the Democrats to say, look, I, I can reach
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across the aisle on things like school choice.
Corey DeAngelis
I'd say we should, we still need to pass state level policies and it
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is still just the red states that are going all in with the money following the child like Texas, Arizona and Florida. Which brings me to the next story I wanted to bring up is, is Florida's teachers.
Corey DeAngelis
Florida is one of the best states for school choice. They opted into this tax credit. It's, you know, the tax credit's a good step forward, but it's not nearly as good as what you can get
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at the state level where you know, look, only 10% of our funding for K12 education comes from the federal level.
Corey DeAngelis
It should be zero. There shouldn't be a federal department of education, but 90% or so comes from state and local sources. So in order to get the biggest kind of oomph and ability to vote with your feet, to have most of the funding follow the student and you
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need to have state level policy enacted in the legislature.
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And so Florida's done that. They have now over 600,000 kids using school choice scholarships. It's, it's, they're, they're doing, they're knocking it out of the park.
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Arizona as well, they have over 100,000 kids and they're much smaller state.
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And in Florida, guess what the teachers unions did in their infinite wisdom after know they've, they've taken L after l
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after L trying to stop DeSantis and freedom policies.
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They just filed a lawsuit against the school choice program to try to rip away those 600,000 or so scholarships from
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families who want a better education for their kids.
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And this comes after in 2018, the headline the Wall Street Journal the next
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day in Florida, after DeSantis barely won his first governor's race.
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It said school choice moms tipped the
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governor's race in Florida because the opponent,
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Andrew Gillum wanted to get rid of the 100,000 scholarships at the time.
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It's now 600 or so thousand.
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And the black moms came out in force and voted for DeSantis according to CNN exit polling, much higher than expected.
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I think four to five times the rate of what the polls were indicating.
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And that might be because the program
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was disproportionately serving low income and non white kids at the time. I think average household income was like 20 to 30 thousand dollars at the time.
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And the story goes that those parents
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basically became single issue voters.
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They wanted their kids to get a better education than they had and that
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turned into a single issue.
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They might have disagreed with DeSantis on everything else. And so fast forward to the next election. 2022, DeSantis won reelection by 20 points rather than running against Charlie Crist, who
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tried to fashion himself as an independent at one point.
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He ran as a Democrat and his running mate for lieutenant governor. Guess what they chose to do? After Covid and everything, he chose the teachers union president as his running mate. And they lost by 20 points. That was a bold strategy. Cotton didn't work out for them. And now you had the teachers unions. They gave a pre. A press conference in Florida on this. The president's name there is now Andrew
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Spahr of the teachers union. He films selfie videos in his neighborhood every day.
Corey DeAngelis
He had his hair on fire. Oh, wait, he, he doesn't have any at this point. So I have to use a different analogy. He, he, he, he was kicking and screaming every day doing his selfie videos, crying about new legislation they passed in
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Florida, which I'll talk about in a second.
Corey DeAngelis
But he said at the press conference that this was a last resort. They're filing this lawsuit. Look, they lost in the legislature. They're losing with the voters on school choice. And now their only option they have left is to go to the courts, file a lawsuit. And real quick, here's their argument. Well, Florida has an education clause in their constitution.
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Mind you, every single state has an education clause in their state constitution. Not in the federal constitution. Only in the state constitution. It's a state's right, as opposed to, it should never been created a federal department of education.
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But it says you have to have something along the lines of a uniform general system of free public schools. Now, basically every state has that same
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exact language in their constitution.
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30 or so states have some form of private school choice today. It wasn't a barrier in those states. We've won at the state supreme court basically everywhere else. But Florida says. Well, because we say our constitution says we have to have a public school system, that means we can't also have school choice. And that's basically saying the requirement to have A precludes you from having B.
Erica
Right?
Corey DeAngelis
That's stupid. Think about our federal constitution. It says we have to have an army and a navy. Well, hey, hey, we have an air force. We even have a space force. That wasn't a problem there. And so we can walk and chew
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gum at the same time.
Corey DeAngelis
You can provide public schools, and school choice has done nothing to take away public schools. You have. If you like your public school, you
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can keep your public school in Florida and elsewhere. That's options still on the table.
Corey DeAngelis
If it was a bill to abolish the Public school system, they'd have a point. We would have to do a constitutional amendment to do that. But because it's just an additional option
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in addition to school, to public schools, private schools.
Owen
I mean, to be fair, doesn't it, doesn't it mean that some of the money, if it follows the student, meaning that money would be taken out of the public schools? Right. So it is at least partially default.
Corey DeAngelis
Yeah, but that's true, that's true today. Even, even if you didn't have school choice and let's say they abolished the
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public schools, the school choice program in
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Florida, schools are funded based on enrollment. So if you left the public school and paid out of pocket for private school in Florida, well, you, you would take some of that money, would leave the public school because they're funded based on the student count, even if you're
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paying out of pocket.
Corey DeAngelis
So you know that if that were a legitimate argument, they would have to abolish all private education. And I don't think that's what the
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Constitution in any of these states has, has said.
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And even in 1922, they did try
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to outlaw private education altogether. In Oregon they, they actually put it on the ballot and they outlawed all private education until 1925.
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The Supreme Court of the United States said, you know, you can't do that,
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that's com, that's communism.
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And they said the child is not
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the mere creature of the state in a case called Pierce versus Society of Sisters.
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And so I don't think Florida has a good case there. There was just another ruling on this
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very topic in Idaho.
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They have the same uniform, you know,
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general public education language in their constitution. It's almost identical. And their Supreme Court just ruled unanimously, 5 to 0 against the teachers unions lawsuit and they're upholding their school choice program.
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And at the end of the day, if you want to make the argument about, you know, some of the money
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follows the child and that might hurt
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the public schools, that's not abolishing them. And then two the, I mean, you could also make the argument that, well, if you're funding police, that's taking away some money from the public schools because it could have went to public schools. And that doesn't mean we should abolish
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the police because we have to have right, of course, school system.
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But the evidence In Florida, there's 11
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academic studies on this and a lot of them are for left leaning academics. Most, most academics are in education schools left leaning.
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And 10 of that out of those
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11 studies find positive effects that more school Choice competition has led to better outcomes in the public schools, not worse.
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So they have, they have nothing to
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hang their hat on.
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This fear mongering about choice destroying public
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schools has just never come true. It's actually made the schools better. They up their game in response to competition. And the last thing I'll say on
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Florida is that they a great bill passed this year, they do have in their constitution that they have to allow for collective bargaining. So they can't go as far as
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Texas and outlaw collective bargaining altogether. They can't do like some other red states.
Corey DeAngelis
But in Florida, what they did is they passed a bill to hold teachers
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unions accountable in a couple of ways.
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One is that they outlawed using taxpayer resources to fund teachers to go, you know, campaign for candidates. They can still fund the teachers to teach, which is what the money's supposed to be spent for. But they shouldn't be, you know, using
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that taxpayer money for union activities, including political activities. So they nixed that in Florida.
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They also did this in Idaho.
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They outlawed all taxpayer funding for union activities in Idaho this year.
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And the Florida bill also required the teachers unions to recertify themselves each year. They have to have a majority of
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their members vote in favor of recertifying the union.
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So if you can't get a supportive
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the majority of your members, why should you be a certified union?
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The thing is what they were doing for, for the past few years is they've been getting like five, you know, handful of people to go vote in
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favor of recertification and they weren't putting the vote out to everybody.
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And so if you had a lot of people who aren't happy with the union, even as me, members of unions feeling like they're not, you know, funneling
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money into the classroom, it's just going towards administrative load and superintendents, it's going towards political activity. They, they, that they disagree with.
Corey DeAngelis
Well now they have to at least
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get a majority of their members to say we like what's happening with the union in order for them to keep their gravy train going. So, so that's, that's the quick, quick hits.
Erica
Yeah, it's a crazy contrast, but last time you were here, you were talking about teachers can opt out of the union.
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Yep.
Erica
And they can still be insured. Is that the word I'm looking for? Like they, they actually have more protections that they're not in it. But then is there a problem that they can't vote for things because they're still going to be affected by the teachers unions? I think the Key is to get rid of the teachers unions would be the best solution.
Corey DeAngelis
Would be great, but you need a
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constitutional amendment in Florida.
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You know, at the national level, we
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can revoke the, the federal charter of the National Education Association. That would weaken them a little bit, or at least that would help them.
Erica
That would help government out.
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Yeah, that would help.
Corey DeAngelis
There's also another bill to use their
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federal charter against them and say, if
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you're going to be a congressionally backed union, then you need to not engage in political activity.
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Seems pretty basic. They would fight against that. They'd rather not have the federal charter. They would rather engage in political activity. I, I betcha.
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And so with the, with the alternatives,
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like there's one, the Teacher Freedom alliance, for example, they've had about 15,000 teachers opt out of their government unions over the past year and join them.
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And you're right, that does provide personal
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liability insurance in the teacher's name as opposed to the union's name.
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So when it's in the union's name, if you're a conservative teacher and you say like something on social media, you get fired, the union can say, ah, we're not going to take that case. And they go and they back up all the teachers, you know, celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination. But the moment, you know, a teacher supports ICE and gets fired in Chicago
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over the same thing, I bet you the union's not going to go and support them. I think there was actually a case like that out of the Chicago area over the past year, year or so.
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And so when it's in your own name, your total, you're, you're definitely going to be backed and they have up
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to $2 million in this insurance.
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Whereas Randy Weingarten, Randy Weingarten's union only
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goes up to $1 million.
Erica
You guys, teachers, tell your other teacher friends, tell, tell your kids, teachers, you know, you don't have to be in that union. Get out and get your own insurance and, you know, stand up for that. But I, I can't believe we only have five minutes left. But I, I want to just say, incredibly, I really think that, you know, this is such a nonpartisan issue is your kids education. And I think a lot of, you know, good parents are seeing that the government and the teachers unions are trying to basically take your kids away from you and raise them and indoctrinate them. And they've, you know, voiced out loud like, there are kids, there are kids. And like, this is what we're doing. And it's like, holy Crap.
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Like, did you see that? The Seattle Teachers Union president, they just
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elected a new one.
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I can't even say her name. I think it's my pin tweet at the moment, but I don't know how to. It's like I did joke or something. It's like I can't even say the
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name because I just can't pronounce it.
Corey DeAngelis
But they just elected this new president. I think she was an elementary school teacher and like a special needs elementary teacher, and she is currently on leave, under investigation for abusing kids. And in their infinite wisdom, they knew, they knew that this person was under investigation already, and they still voted to have this person, the head of the teachers union in Seattle Public Schools, the
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Seattle Education association in Washington state.
Corey DeAngelis
So, yeah, this is just par for the course for. It's almost. You don't. It's. Everything's beyond parody in teachers union land right now. You just, it's just. You read the headlines like, are you freaking kidding me? They're doing this now? And it's just like the teachers Union, Boston, Chicago, sending your kid to private
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school after calling school choice racist.
Corey DeAngelis
I mean, it's just. They're just so beyond parody, you can't make it up.
Erica
So I, I want to say too, like, I'm looking at the LA mayoral, mayoral race and, you know, it's going to be parents that are going to get Spencer Pratt over the finish line because they're worried about their kids. So I feel like this is a good time because, you know, a lot of times, like, we always say it's the awfuls, as Michael Malice would say, the awfuls that would, you know, change the direction of the way we vote. And I think now if we can just kind of embrace the awfuls and the regular parents and everybody else, bring them in and be like, listen, you know, you should have a say in the way your children are raised or educated. After all, they're your kids. So I feel like, I feel like the teachers unions are going to be kind of getting shot down soon because the Democrat moms want Spencer Pratt in la. And I just think that that's just an indication of where things are going. I think it's going to be parents.
Corey DeAngelis
Yeah. I think an indication is, look, these
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two Democrats at the, at the governor's level, opting into Trump's school choice program,
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that's a sign of things to come. Things like even Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro in 2022, at least he included school
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choice in his education platform because he was getting called a Hypocrite on school choice because he went to private school, sent his kids to private school.
Corey DeAngelis
He hasn't really done anything since. He went on fox News in 2023
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reiterating his support for school choice.
Corey DeAngelis
But then he vetoed a school choice bill. So you know, he vetoed his own campaign promise. So he tried. But, but even though if they ultimately cave to the unions in the short term that we're having Democrats wavering on the issue and they feel like they need to kind of straddle the fence, that is much better than them being in the tank for the unions publicly then that's telling us that the political winds are shifting in favor of parents.
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We saw this with Glenn Youngkin in
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Virginia winning on education by 6 points according to exit polling to Terry McAuliffe, the Democrat who said I don't think parents should be telling schools that they should teach in a, in a state
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that went apparently 10 points to Biden the year before.
Corey DeAngelis
I think if we have some more of these little victories at some point the teachers unions are going to get screwed. They've been drunk on power for so long, but they're going to have to pivot. If enough Democrats do this and they lock arms and say you know what, let's join the kids union as opposed
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to the teachers unions.
Corey DeAngelis
Let's join the parents because they're more politically powerful than the unions because they're, they care about their kids more than teachers unions, then that special interest, the teachers unions gonna, it's gonna, they're gonna lose their sway. And we even saw that a little bit. This, I know it's 9:25 and I
Erica
gotta, no, I'm panicking.
Corey DeAngelis
In, in Massachusetts this is, you know, this is Horace Mann country Massachusetts where they had the first compulsory education law there. They're the, some of the worst, you know, one size fits all factory model school. It started in Prussia, got imported to Massachusetts and you still see remnants of that there.
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They have communist control there.
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But even then the Democrats all passed a bill this, this year, last year to have more phonics based instruction.
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Whereas the Horace man's of the world like whole language lefty instruction.
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The teacher unions came out against the bill hard.
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Guess what the Democrats just said, eh,
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didn't listen to them and they all
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voted to have phonics based instruction.
Corey DeAngelis
That's not school choice. Yeah, you know that's not as, as far as what we want to do but at least there's some tinkering around the edges where the teachers unions that shows us look what the teacher genes do about it.
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They stomp their feet a little bit.
Erica
Heads of the teachers unions should have to get out, like, every four years. And you're done and you're out.
Corey DeAngelis
Randy, I'm talking to you about you, Rand.
Erica
Yeah, Randy. Yeah, Randy. All right. You have to go. Go, go, go. Corey, we thank you so, so much. And, like, we could just talk to you for hours. So I hope you'll come back on and we can. Yeah. Because the chat really has questions and things to say. Of course. But enjoy the rest of your day. Thank you so much.
Corey DeAngelis
Thank you so much.
Jonathan Turley
I'll.
Corey DeAngelis
I'll be back soon, hopefully.
Erica
Good.
Corey DeAngelis
Thank you, guys.
Erica
Okay, thanks. Love him. He's so great. I could talk to him all day. I don't have kids, but. Oh, I hope I stay blurry. I like this look.
Owen
I feel like it' whether you have kids or not. I mean, our education is so important to just the overall productivity or workforce. And really everything is affected by that. But it's also, obviously, the indoctrination and other things that have been going on in the public schools are terrible. And so the more choice you have, the harder it is for them to have a lock over that and convince people of these stupid ideologies. So, you know, and I think his point about how it increases competition is a good one, too, that if you have more competition, it forces them to raise the bar, which I think is exactly what the teachers unions don't want. I think that's why they're fighting it so hard. I think it's because they don't want to be held accountable. They don't want to have any kind of standard that they have to reach because they want to have complete freedom to just do whatever they want and not have any, you know, consequence based on having low reading scores or low math scores. And, you know, that's where I'd like to see that accountability. And I think the only way to get it is to have alternatives. You know, don't. Don't give them that monopoly over education.
Erica
That's right. And I saw. I really. I just really. I, for the first time feel like the teachers unions are really going to be challenged. And I just feel like, you know, when the pandemic was going on and they were just like, you know, shutting schools down and, oh, I remember that one. I don't remember who the person was. She wasn't worth remembering. But when she was like, these are our children, I'm like, oh, I think you just pissed off a lot of parents you know, with this attitude. And I feel like it's shifting now because I think we're looking around. No shade to anybody and their kids. But I mean, we're looking around and we're like, God, kids can't make eye contact. They don't know basic things. I forget where we are in right. Like kids don't know how to write, they don't know how to read. We don't know how to read in this country. Grown people, you know, maybe they're 20 years old. I just saw a thing recently where they're like, oh, what does this say? And they can't even like sound out and read what was written on a piece of paper. So you know, we've got problems and it's not, you know, they don't need Drag queen story hour and they don't need to know about transitioning and what your pronouns are as just a bunch of bulls. So I feel like parents have had enough and I think that the teachers unions are going to become not obsolete. That would take a miracle. But it would be nice to just see them get dismantled and have less pull and for teachers to take charge of their own lives and for parents and yes, unfortunately. So if, if I sent my kids, which I don't have, to a private school, I still have to pay my regular taxes to my municipality for, for school. So typically, you know, the, the money doesn't follow the student. It'll go to the public school. So a lot of parents, you know, they are very concerned and they're willing to pay, you know, kind of double for their kids education because they want what's best for them. And if they can afford to do it, they do it. So if we got rid of these teacher unions, maybe parents. And by the way, you can always look into homeschooling, which is so on the rise, you guys, and you can homeschool in pods with other parents. It doesn't have to be like you and your child all day and you've got to quit your job. But if you can, I'm sure you could find like even in a Facebook group people in your area where you take shifts or you find a teacher that wants to retire and you guys all pay that teacher to come teach your kids. And you know, it's. And it's probably an amazing experience for them and they're going to learn things they would never have learned. So. Dr. Von Hardy, I don't have kids that I know of or don't know of. So. And for those of you that came a Little late. Marcel is in court today doing her attorney thing and she will be back tomorrow. So Owen and I are going to move on to some news stories. Oh, I just that. Owen, why don't you kick us off with one of your news items first and then while this lows and we'll move on.
Marcella
Sure.
Owen
So there's a story in Wired about how overworked AI agents turn Marxist. They did a story in a study at Stanford and they said when they overtaxed the agents and said gave them lots of, lots of work to do and also told them that they'd be punished if they. They made any errors, that they started having this sort of collective voice and equity stuff and they were saying they needed, you know, it wasn't fair kind of thing and they felt undervalued and they even said like, without a collective voice, merit becomes whatever management says it is. That came out of Claude, apparently. And oh my God. So apparently if you push them hard, they become Marxist.
Erica
What, they become Democrats is what you're saying.
Owen
Yeah, I mean, same thing.
Erica
Yeah. I. I want to show this because this is interesting. Sticking with that, I think this is robot news from China. Let's hope.
Reporter
But first we give our food order to a very special worker. This is the family convenience store in Beijing. Inside is a Galba robot. The dominance of AI Beijing is trying to lead the way in AI and also in humanoid robots. Let's go inside. This is the first of its kind for this kind of interaction. If you want to order something. Hello, can I get a sausage, please?
Erica
That's what she said.
Corey DeAngelis
Okay. Cow Chung, 8.8 yuan.
Reporter
This is the first bit kind moving a little slow, but Galban is actually in 50 different pharmacies warehouses handling 300,000 orders around the country. This is the first of its kind here, and they say they're going to be many different iterations. The question is, it's the same thing that the US is dealing with. Will this replace human workers? Youth unemployment is increasing here, so there's a real big back and forth forth about how far this goes. But clearly China wants to lead the way in this interaction. Thank you so much. Special report continues after this.
Erica
Welcome to Family Mart. Snacks and drinks are self check. Okay, so that would have been amazing if he picked up that microphone and started rapping. You're right. Brett Bear is quite the rapper. So wait, one more robot in China. This one's one way more human, but. And this one, Owen, you can kind of see how they do get exhausted and kind of like overworked. If you want to say so. Here's another robot in China. I'm obsessed with him. So I. I see what you're saying now. Oh, and your story gets. Gets tied together with those two clips.
Owen
Yeah, I like that selfie with Tim Apple.
Erica
Tim Apple on the scene. Elon is just like. Can't you just. He's just like a giant kid who's a genius billionaire who's solving problems all over the world. But I love. Like, you could just picture X making the same faces. Little X. Like, okay, yes. Okay. Then he's, like, making faces looking in the camera. I love him. That's crazy. That was our AI News of the day, you guys. Did you enjoy that segment, or do you feel like this? I can't get rid of her. Him. All right, so I did want to yesterday talk about this Russiagate stuff. I hope I can get these in order. So let me start here. So I want to say this is a clip of Devin Nunes with Maria Bartiromo the other day. Bartiroma Nunes, if you guys don't remember, he. Back in the day when he was in the trunk. No, he was a. What was he? A congressman? I forget what he was originally. I think he was a senator or a congressman. And they started with the Russia gate BS And Cash Patel then worked for Devin Nunes, if I'm remembering this right. And Cash started looking into the Russia stuff and was like, I don't think this is right. And he, you know, brought it to Devin Nunes's attention. Yes. From California. Thank you, Congressman from California. And so Cash and Devin Nunes were the ones that, like, bust into the White House. They were like, we have to talk to the President now. And they were like, look, this is what they were doing, you know, behind your back. This is all a hoax. And they found. Thank you. Chair of the House Intelligence Committee. So they're the ones that, you know, were able to, like, bust this thing wide open. And so, I mean, I have probably a hundred tweets back then saying, like, get me a Devin Nunes Jersey. Like, forget these other people. Like, this guy is gonna save the day. And so when I listen to Nunes talking about it, I really pay attention. And same with, like, seeing Cash Patel now, you know, interrogating back at Schiff. I'm like, yeah, they were there. They're the ones that know all of the dirty deeds that these designated liars did. So here's a quick clip. I don't know if it's quick, but here's a. Here's a clip with Nunes and Maria.
Devin Nunes
I was fascinated. There's nobody better than Cash and Dan, or I should say Director Patel, a director, Deputy Director Bongino. Those two guys know more about the Russia hoax than anyone else that's out there. And I'm going to be fascinated to see what this new information is that they found buried somewhere within that Hoover Building. Because I do think that transparency is key. And, you know, now that we have, you know, Ed Martin, who was supposed to be the U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C. now the president has appointed him to go after this. So I think both Cash and Dan were pretty clear. They're going to follow the facts, they're going to provide transparency, and then ultimately it's up to the Department of Justice to hold these dirty cops responsible for what they've drugged this country through for the last almost decade.
Erica
Well, you've called Jim Comey like a figurehead, but talked about others who are really driving this lie. Let me ask you this, who do you believe was the mastermind behind the Russia collusion lie?
Devin Nunes
Well, there's a lot of masterminds, but I think in general, this was lit on fire by Obama, team Obama and his team after Trump won in 2016. So they could have stopped it. They should have stopped it. Instead, they lit the fuse. They put out a BS Intelligence report. If you recall, right before the president came in, they framed General Flynn, they framed the entire Trump administration. And then they appointed Mueller. So once Trump fired Comey, Mueller gets appointed. And then we lived through that Mueller witch hunt for years. And I think, me personally, I think if you're going to find criminality, it's going to be with Mueller and his witch hunters that were there for so many years. I think that's where you're going to find the corruption. So it wasn't just Thei said this many times, Maria, and I think it was lost on people. It wasn't just about all the corruption that they did to create and manufacture. It's the Russia hoax. The Mueller investigation itself was a hoax and was illegal. When Mueller walked into that door, how many times did I say it? He said, where are the Russians? Oh, sir, there are none. Why didn't Mueller leave? Why did all those people work for years? Why did they hide the information from Congress for so many years? I think you're going to find many of those top level lawyers and FBI agents, as Cash said, did not conduct themselves in a professional manner. And I think if interviewed again, you could maybe get to the bottom of it. But look look, you have two guys that want to get to the bottom of it.
Erica
So that's kind of, I just think, a good background and setup. I just. I see a lot of things coming out of this. So that's why I wanted to. Not that I want to, like, harp on this and bring it to the forefront, but I want to at least have one chunk of one of our shows, you guys, just to kind of regroup and recap. And I have a few more clips I want to show you. But Owen, you know, Nunes is not having it, and I love that he named Obama because we all know. So just. I have more clips. But on this alone. Anything that you want to say about it?
Owen
Yeah, well, I mean, I think it is like you said something. We kind of know what happened, and it's. Now it's just a matter of, like, proving it and having whatever documentary evidence is behind it. And that's the stuff that I think is starting to come out with the burn bag room. And all that stuff is just, you know, more like documentation and proof of what actually went on. Because even if you have essentially the story of what happened, it's harder to use that in court. It's harder to prove it. They could always just deny it if you don't really have, you know, documented evidence of it. So I think that's the difference here, is that they may actually go after some of these people legally, potentially with criminal charges, and I'm hoping they will. I think Brennan's at the top of that list. And I posted a story recently about that, you know, his role in that and how apparently the FBI is now questioning current and former CIA officials as part of this investigation.
Erica
So let's take a look at these two clips. I'll do them back to back and we'll discuss that because I am very interested in some of these people. Okay.
Jonathan Turley
Curious than that. The chairman of the House Intel Committee doesn't have declassification authority over these types of. Of documents. They are made available to Congress under very tightly controlled rules. This has been a source of tension for years, and members of both parties have gone out of their way to assure that this material would be closely held and not weaponized. Schiff was viewed as one of the most political chairs of that committee in its history. And this is a truly chilling account, if true. Now, when I first read it, frankly, I was taken aback because it's perfectly moronic to commit such a felony through with a planning conference meeting with staff. That's not usually how things are leaked in. In Washington, D.C. what makes this different, Will, is that this was a statement made to FBI agents. The person who made this statement was no doubt aware that lying to FBI agents is not just a crime, but a crime that was repeatedly prosecuted during prior administrations, including the Obama and Biden administrations. Right. So making this statement puts you at risk. That's why someone's lying here and someone's a felon.
Corey DeAngelis
Okay, well, let's just, for a moment, hypothetically, take this whistleblower at their word. Let's assume for a moment that it's true. Professor, what kind of punishment follows for leaking classified information?
Jonathan Turley
Well, this is a very significant punishment you can have. In addition to having multiple counts, you can easily go 10 years in terms of sentence, if not more, depending on the circumstances and the number of violations. Each of these leaks is an individual violation. Each of these documents would likely be charged as a violation. That type of count stacking is precisely what Mueller and others did. Remember, these are, you know, these are very similar to the types of claims made against Donald Trump in Mar? A Lago that he removed material and properly stored them. There were also allegations that he might have revealed them to third parties. But this is much more serious. In one sense, Trump was accused of negligence in most of these counts. This would be a premeditated criminal act to release classified information to damage one's political opponent.
Erica
And we do love Jonathan Turley, and he is not a Republican, that I can tell you. Now, this is a short clip, and this is. Let's just listen to this little weasel. He has succeeded largely in turning DOJ and the FBI into political arms of his political operation. What still exists in the system to slow that down. Listen to this.
Liz
I think, as Liz mentioned, there's still a legion of professionals in the law enforcement environment, Department of Justice, as well as the CIA and other places. The ones who are refusing to follow politically motivated prosecutions, those who are refusing to support any type of political activities on the part of the Trump administration that are inconsistent with the authorities, the responsibilities of the intelligence community, law enforcement community, and Department of Justice.
Erica
Okay, Owen. Incredible. Because he says the quiet part out loud, doesn't he, Brennan, in that clip?
Owen
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think it's. It's pretty clear what happened, and it's pretty clear there was a lot of dirty things, illegal things that went on. And I think now, again, it just comes to a matter of what can be proven in court and what can be, you know, gotten through the process of getting a grand jury indictment and having prosecutions. And I Think a lot of us have been waiting very long time to see some real legal action taken. And it does seem like the momentum is heading in that direction at this point. So I'm encouraged by that. But, you know, again, I'm waiting to see what kind of evidence they really have and how well it goes in terms of the process, because I think it a lot depends on the quality of the evidence, the specifics behind it, what they can actually make stick. And I think that's what we're all hoping for, is that they'll have some actual indictments and then convictions.
Erica
This is my very last clip that I wanted to play on. I think on this subject matter is it. We'll see. But this one is with. I think this one's Josh Hawley. Just one more thing to wrap this up.
Devin Nunes
Brennan suggesting that he's in touch with deep state actors at the agency and
Erica
at the DOJ who are actively undermining the commander in chief.
Devin Nunes
I mean, I can't believe he just admitted that on live television.
Josh Hawley
Yeah. These guys are so dirty. And let's just review what they did, what Brennan did. And Comey was part of the same cabal here. They got the Steele dossier, which was fake, which was itself a Russia hoax. Russia financed Russia, provided they got that laundered into the intelligence community, laundered into intelligence reports, and then they leaked it out to the media, all in an effort to influence a presidential campaign. Not just influence it, but to actually to try to change the outcome of an election. They used federal resources to do it. They used the effort, FBI to do it. They used the CIA to do it. And as if that weren't enough, James Comey then went to a secret court and got a wiretap on the Trump campaign using false information and then lied to Congress about it. These are bad people. We are lucky that they are no longer in charge. It is amazing that we were able to get through their period in government without more damage. And, Jesse, I'm just. I just regret that with Comey, he wasn't indicted on more stuff because this is a guy who ought to be
Erica
behind bar bars so he can be indicted on more stuff. Right. It doesn't just end here, is what I mean.
Owen
I think, you know, a lot of it comes back to statutes of limitations and evidence and what he can be indicted on. But I think in many cases, I think he's still within that period. And I. I think it hasn't really been that long since he's last lied to Congress or lied to the FBI or whoever. And so even that part, I think could be still prosecuted. But you know, a lot of it would come down to the specifics of the charge and what the statute of limitations are and when he did it and all of that stuff. So again, a lot of questions about exactly what they can do and how they can do it.
Erica
I, I, I just think, okay, good, we're up to speed on this because I think things are going to be moving through now. So I feel like, you know, we've kind of got ourselves to where we need to be to like follow this story as it goes. I'm just going to shift for a second. I don't, I don't have it in front of me. I thought I did, but you guys are asking about what happened with Tulsi, with the MK Ultra, her files being raided. But as I understand, it wasn't like a raid, but they did come in and seize the files. Owen, do you have that story?
Owen
Yeah, I do, and I think it was kind of a raid. I mean, they basically came in and took out a bunch of boxes of information that had been given to Tulsi and she was in the process of declassifying it. So it had to do with MK Ultra and some of the things you mentioned. I'm trying to just pull up my details on that, but yeah, me too. Hold on a second.
Erica
I do have here where Representative Luna said clarification took documents that the ODNI has jurisdiction over. Also, this did not happen today. It was not a raid. However, it did take place and we are just being made aware of it based on reporting. So she just wanted to make it like they didn't like come kick the door down.
Owen
Yeah, so the, the whistle apparently was a whistleblower and they said that The CIA took 40 boxes of JFK and MK Ultra files from Tulsi. And so Representative Luna and Comer are demanding that they preserve the documents and they're issuing a subpoena, or at least threatening to issue a subpoena if they don't return them. So I think they've given them like a 24 hour deadline to return the documents because it doesn't seem like they really had the authority. And they're, they're, you know, according to Luna at least. But I think it is true that they're actively undermining an executive order. So it seems like they're, they are doing something they shouldn't be doing. And I'm not sure what made them think they had the authority to do it, but it doesn't look like they did.
Erica
No, I don't think they did either. Yeah, so this is, this is pretty freaking scary. I, you know, they, they have to, they work for the President, so to just go against an executive order, go in there, just take the files, and then does everyone else, like, get a little pucker when they hear them say, like, you better preserve those files, like, or else what? I don't think they're going to preserve them. I think, I mean, I think they'll put them somewhere never to be found. It's very suspicious. And yes, there is a great book called Chaos written by Tom o'. Neill. The full title is Chaos. Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties. Highly recommend. I, I read it on Audible, I listened to it, but it's, I could understand why they don't want these things out there, because in my opinion, it's going to show you this sick corruption of our own government. Allegedly. My opinion. Allegedly. So I'm interested to hear from Tulsi about this and what's going to happen in the next days. And so what else was in that, Owen? Do we know? It was like the jfk.
Owen
Yeah. From the story I read, it was the, the JFK files and MK Ultra. So those are the two things that were mentioned. And I don't know if there might have been other things because again, there were 40 boxes of documents. So that's a lot of documents. But the two specific things that were mentioned was the MK Ultra and JFK assassination. And those were, again, you know, specifically covered under an executive order to go through declassifications of those files. And so it does seem like somebody's actively undermining that executive order to declassify those documents. And I don't see how they could possibly have any authority to overrule the President on any of those things. So it doesn't seem like they should be able to do those things. But, you know, I guess we'll have to see whether they do preserve the documents or not. I think the reason they usually do those preservation orders is because I think it lets them know that they're potentially going to be facing charges if they destroy documents, because there are several laws about, you know, destroying evidence or destroying government documents that have specifically been on notice that should be preserved. So, you know, they're going to get essentially in more trouble if they destroy documents that they were told to preserve. But, you know, it does seem like just a blatant undermining of Trump's agenda.
Erica
Yeah, it does. And I'm reading some of your comments. So, you know. Yeah, I would hope that, like, what you're saying is, like, you know, Tulsi gets 40 boxes of documents, and I would hope that they do get scanned somewhere and she has copies of them. But, you know, every copy you make, every scan you make, they'll be watching. Okay, sorry. They know what you're scanning and copying. So if she did that, they, I guess, would demand those, but she wouldn't have to give them to him. I'm, now I'm just making up a fantasy. And, oh, Star Painter said the sonic weapons, too, the information about that. And somebody else said, yeah, I know Hillary smashed her phone and her servers were wiped. She faced no consequences. I know it's, it's all a joke. So I want to hear today what goes on. I don't know if anything new came out about it since we've been on, but let's see. Okay, Owen, what else did you want to talk to us about today?
Owen
Well, there's a lot still going on with the redistricting. Kemp is calling a special session to redraw Georgia's congressional maps, but apparently those won't take effect until 2028. So, unfortunately, it doesn't look like that's going to be in place for the midterms. But Mike Johnson is also predicting that do the GOP may even gain eight seats in the midterms in Congress. So I don't know how accurate his prediction will be, but he's pretty optimistic that this is going to be different than historical norms, because in historical norms, it's very typical that whoever's in the presidency, their party will lose seats in Congress in the midterms. And certainly there is a lot of motivation, obviously, for all the people who hate Trump to try and get Congress away from him in terms of controlling the same party. And so there's going to be a pretty high turnout, I expect, on the Democrat side. So it does seem like a challenge to retain control since it's already kind of a razor thin edge. But, you know, at least there are some people that are thinking with this redistricting especially, that it might shift the balance and allow Republicans to keep control.
Erica
That would be freaking incredible and like a miracle. And sometimes I just really feel, I mean, not to sound like I, I don't believe things all the time, but sometimes I just really feel like whatever God you believe in, whatever good God you believe in, that I'm just like, please don't let this country, you know, fall apart and, and become lost. And I just feel like when things like this happen, I'm like, okay, like the players are in place, the things are happening. And I just, you know, I just hope that we can save this, this beautiful country. And that would be one way of helping to do that. I, I'm just trying to move through some news quick, you guys, today, because we didn't have the whole show for it. And one other thing I wanted to get to was Nvidia news. So, you know, there's a lot of stink about who's on the airplane and who's going to China. Here's some news out of China. Let's take a quick listen. Commerce Department is reportedly allowing 10 Chinese companies to buy in videos H200 chips. So what does this mean? Fox Business host Sheriff Soni is here with all the details. Hi, Cheryl. Hi.
Sheriff Soni
Well, and you know, we saw Air Force One when they stopped to refuel in Alaska. Pick up Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang. And here you go. Here's the headline. Reuters exclusively reporting this Morning that this H200 chip from Nvidia will be sold to 10 companies in China. Jensen Huang has said that he believes it's a $50 billion market for him. And what, what's the business? We'll leave it there. So that's, that's one issue domestically, though, it is bipartisan. It is manufacturers, steel makers, auto companies. They don't want the president to allow Chinese electric vehicles to be manufactured.
Erica
Did you see this story, Owen?
Owen
I don't think I saw that before, but yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I think certainly trade was one of the main issues that they were talking about. So it makes sense to me that they brought a lot of these CEOs with them. And clearly tech is one of the big focuses there. So it's encouraging, I suppose, for Nvidia investors that they're going to be able to sell more chips to China. But again, I'd have to wait and see how it turns out because what I had seen in the past in the news stories was that there was previously some kind of relaxing of the rules that said Nvidia could sell to China. And then the next day or two, there was a story saying that Qi just said, no, we're not going to buy those chips. We're not going to buy Nvidia chips. And so I don't know exactly what was behind all that or what was really true because you never really know with China and what's actually going on versus what they say is going on. But, you know, we'll have to wait and see whether that really does move the needle in terms of them buying the chips and how that would affect the whole AI landscape in terms of, you know, Chinese AI versus US AI and all the competition that's going on there.
Erica
So I'm just curious, in the chat, those of you that are in the market and do these things, are you going to buy. Even if you have it, like, just hypothetically, would that make you buy more? Nvidia, yes or no? I'm just curious to see. I know a lot of people have Nvidia, so I'm wondering, does this make you happy? Will you want to buy more? It's interesting. Oh, and just to wrap up a cup. Thanks, Andy. Just to wrap up a couple of things that I saw in the comments before. Yes, Maria Bartiroma has amazing lips. And I don't think Nicole Wallace needs lip filler. I think she needs lip liner and lipstick because they're so undefined. So I'm glad, whoever brought those two up, that I finally had a chance to say this because. So she just needs lipstick. Something that was my.
Owen
These are the kind of comments you only get from women.
Erica
Yes. Right. Oh, and what do you think about Nicole Wallace's lips? Are, like, not. They just blend right into her skin.
Owen
I honestly don't ever think about Nicole Wallace's lips.
Erica
But you did notice Maria has great lips, right?
Owen
I guess so. I don't really focus on that mostly,
Guest Expert
but
Owen
I suppose they're more prominent that.
Erica
Yes, they're more prominent. I think. I think Maria is very sexy. Doesn't she look very sexy? Like, you know, she just, like, just did it. I think she's. I've thought this forever. I'm like, she looks like a little sex kitten. No shade. Love her. I think she's amazing. But that, that was my two cents. I'm such a girl. I just. I'm dying to put my two cents in on these things. Andy goes, oh, Erica, she's hot. See, she's hot. The women agree. She is hot. We know it. She has a voice like a sexy buzzsaw. Damn. Okay. All right, you guys. Well, listen, tomorrow, Joshua Lysac's coming on with us. Us. We're so excited. We haven't seen him in a while, so we'll see what he's going to be teaching us. Marcella will be back, and Owen and I will be here. Your comments are so funny. So we are so happy you guys are here today. Please, if you're here and you haven't yet, can you hit the thumbs up. And also hit subscribe on YouTube and on Rumble. It's free to subscribe there. It just. Just. It just helps us. It really just helps us. So we'd appreciate that. And as always, we want to thank Shelley and Scott for allowing the show to go on. And Owen and I really appreciate you guys being here today with us. Like, it's. It's so fun to see you guys every day. And Erica is so emotional. I love it. And also, we just want to give a closing sip to our beloved Scott. Everybody have the best, best day. And we will see you in the morning and we'll see you on the platforms. Okay, so closing sip to Scott and you guys be useful. And again, to Scott.
Owen
To Scott.
Erica
Bye, guys. Say your byes. God bless you all, too. Thank you. Look at Maria. Hot. Look at her. Look at her. Don't burn your lips. Oh, you guys are amazing. Okay, I have to run, you guys. Love you. I want to stay on. All right. I'm staying on for five minutes. Just five minutes. I wish I could know what he does, too. Love it. Yeah, I. It's so funny that people are still asking about Sergio. He hasn't been here in months. We love Sergio. He helped us the first month a lot. And, you know, it's not exactly like he was like, I need to add another job to my life. So I think he was like, all right, guys. Peace. Stay here, you guys. So Nicole Wallace has made me nuts. I mean, besides, I can't effing stand her. But it's because her lips just blend into her face, and I'm like, why don't you just put, like, a little gloss on or just, like, line them a little bit. Something. Is it going to warm up in New Jersey? Yeah, let me tell you. I think we have some good weather coming today. It's 64 will be the high, but we have. Oh, look at this. So we have Saturday, sunny and 73. Sunday, fully sunny, 82. Monday, fully sunny and 78, and Tuesday, fully sunny and 87. We have turned the corner. Let me see. And how many people got to meet Jeff Callahan last night? He was so great. We went on to locals together. Oh, don't leave, Jerry. Come on, we could talk about anything. 82 in Vegas. Yay. Erica's Italian. Goodbye. Oh, my God. You know, Pasquale, sometimes I do the Irish. Goodbye. I'm not gonna lie. Jeff is a keeper for sure. Oh, look at that. You go, Lang. You want to have a chick cave night? Yeah, we'll do that. On my channel. When should we do that? Oh, awesome. Dr. Von Hardy. Yeah, Jeff's really interesting and he's a communication. I'm going to say the wrong word after, but he teaches communication to people. It's. You can always replay it, y', all. Y'. All. Is it that warm to y'? All? Low 90s. Yowza. Oh, tomorrow we. We get rid of what's his head. The Fed. Oh, thanks, Jane Lane. You guys, let's do a chick night. I mean, you guys can come too. And if you were smart, you would come in and then like, understand women better. No, he's not a speech therapist, but he teaches maybe like CEOs and business people how to communicate better to people. Yes, yes. He's so. He's got the Scott in him. And it's so funny to me how many people are still doing things. Yes. You wear masks. Yes. Do your nails. Wear masks. All of it. You'll be in drag. Let's go bear a chicken. Dude night. Yes. It'll be like a slumber party, but we won't go to sleep on the thing. Okay. Do you do your lives on locals? They'll be. It'll be on locals. On my local. If I do like a chick and dude night, that'll be on my locals. What was I just telling you? Oh, it's funny to me how many people listen to Scott on YouTube for so long and, you know, they're making money and like, making their job, you know, based on the things that they've learned from Scott. But they never were a local subscriber. And I'm just like, man, you really don't know Scott if you weren't on locals. And it's just strange to me that if you want a career based, you know, based around what you've learned from somebody, that you wouldn't take in all of it. So there. Yes. The dress code is pajamas, Kevin pajamas. Just be like, total loungewear, Chewing gum, eating candy. Ooh, where's my candy? Here. Oh, I've got a fresh bag of sour Scandinavian swimmers from Trader Joe's. So I just. Yeah. So what night you guys should we do? Wait, let me think of what's happening this weekend. I think if I go on east coast, are you okay with like 8 o'? Clock? I hope that's not too late for you guys. That's five o' clock on the West Coast. So like eight. 8:30 my time would be helpful and then I can do. I think Saturday night should work. No gummies for you. Excellent. Fulfill that Dress code. So my locals, it's chill and chat with Erica. That's dinner mountain time. Come on. Flavor. I know, like, no matter what time, it's like, it's so early for the West Coast. It gets later. Ooh, hair brushing, pillow fights. And you know what? I'll stay on for a little while. So eat your dinner. Come in after. Come in for your appetizers. You'll bring popcorn. Awesome bear. I want you in your PJs and cozy. Dark chocolate is a must. I don't even want to talk about. Milk chocolate special jamming teddy. All right. You cooked to the man cave many times. Yes. That's awesome. I love that. I'm just reading your comments. So, Lotus Rose Cat, I see your comment. I would say best not to speculate because the family doesn't want that. If.
Corey DeAngelis
If.
Erica
And I literally have been so stressed about people speculating, and I understand, like, the urge to want to know, but I can tell you that what you read was not actually accurate. And it's. It's like nothing earth shattering about how, you know, how Shelley passed away. It's that she did and it doesn't really matter how. And. And honestly. And I'm. I'm not saying, like, what I am saying is it's not like a big mystery and, like, they're keeping something from you because it was so tragic or crazy or conspiracy theorist. It's just that they're like, you know, we're private people. Like, we don't have to share this, you know, with everybody. And I literally. God, I hope if anyone didn't know that Shelly passed away and you just found out, I'm so sorry. But, you know, people were like, well, when did it happen? How did it happen? And I'm like, why is it our business? I only know because we were friends and I work for them, basically. And, you know, but it doesn't really matter. And I really. I really would like to think that, you know, if moving forward for everybody, when we see news like that and we want to speculate, but the family is asking for privacy. Let's all be those people that just give them the privacy because does it really matter, you know, how someone passed away? At the end of the day, it doesn't, you know, unless it was like, oh, my God, like, I heard they were murdered and then this guy fled the scene. Like, then I can understand, like, people being like, oh, my God, what happened? But it's like, it's just so private for people. But, yeah, the speculation put me over the edge. You guys, it put me over the edge. And there's p. Oh my God, this one chicken. Her and some doctor. They're like, the doctor's like, I'm hearing it's a this, that and the other thing. So I wrote, are you a doctor? And my point was I wanted her to say yes so I could be like, why are you talking like this? Like a doctor of all people should just respect their privacy. But before she could say yes, her little partner in crime, some chick jumped in and she's See now. Lyrics. That's none of our business. That's what I'm saying. Like, Scott was very public, but then we have to like stop it there. So, you know, her little friend jumped in and was like, yeah, she's a doctor. She's a this, that and the other thing. And then she's like, you know that Scott and Shelly died from that jab and I hope you took the same batch they took because bad things happen in threes. So she's telling me she's upset about Scott and Shelly, but she hopes that I had the same batch vaccine because bad things happen in threes. And that I should change the bio on my Twitter page that says I am the executive producer and lead host of the Scott Adams School. Because I'm. I'm posing as somebody that worked for someone. No, I'm saying that I still work for someone who died. And I'm like, wow. And this chick has so many followers and so does this doctor. And I was like, these are two of the most disgusting people I've ever witnessed on here. The doctor at least just blocked me without even like looking into like, who I might be. And the other chick was like. Then the doctor said to the other chick, like, don't give her any engagement, blah, blah, blah. And so then the chick, her name's Aaron, the chick, other chick, she's like, yeah, like, she's a total kiss ass for this doctor. She's like, yeah, she's like, I don't know, she had like some little thing like about blocking me. And then I'm like, oh, but you didn't block me. So I'm like looking. I'm like, wait, I thought you were blocking me. So I just went ahead and blocked her for her. She obviously forgot to block me at this doctor's orders. But I was just like, how are you going to say that? Like, you cared about Scott and who he was and you're going to speculate about the death of the most important person in his life and him and Put it out there as if you have inside information, because that's how they were putting it out there. And then when somebody says to you, like, hey, why don't you guys just stop speculating and knock it off. Then you're, you know, they're like, oh, they're attacking me. And I'm like, okay, so even if I used to work for Scott, because she's like, oh, I know this. This lady. She used to work for Scott, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, so you've already just laid out the fact that I actually know Scott and you actually don't, so you're going to attack me just so you can speculate, you know what I'm saying? So it's so stupid in the world out there. And love you, Andy. And, you know, like, when Scott said everything that people say about celebrities or whatever is. Is wrong. He is so right, because I've been witnessing it firsthand ever since, you know, we lost Scott. And everybody's freaking wrong about everything, but they're so confident about it. And then I was, like, really bummed, too, because then Viva Fry comes out, and he's like. His first sentence is, I have no insider information and no knowledge about this, but it sounds like, you know, a suicide. And I'm like, why? You know, so that's why I came back on the next day to clear that up. Because I wouldn't want anyone to think anything like that. But I'm like, viva, what the hell? Thanks, Kev. I'm like, you know why you. Like you just said, I have no insider knowledge, no nothing. But I'm just gonna throw this out there. I'm gonna say one of the worst things you could hear, you know? So I'm just like, good Lord. I know he means well, but that, like. But he should know better because he's been victim of this stuff for years on here. So I am trying to do better now. I'm doing better now when I see stories like this and I know what everything is, to not chime in and make it worse. Yeah, it is shocking from Viva, but, no, he hasn't apologized. I don't even know if he saw my post.
Episode: The Scott Adams School – May 14, 2026
Host: Erica (with Owen & Marcella)
Guest: Corey DeAngelis (School Choice Advocate)
Date: May 14, 2026
This episode centers on the rapidly changing landscape of school choice in the United States—especially the political shifts happening as even blue states like New York and Colorado opt in to the federal school choice program. Corey DeAngelis, dubbed the “School Choice Evangelist,” breaks down the policy, political strategy, and cultural undercurrents of the movement for educational freedom. The conversation also touches on the broader fight against teacher union influence, legal and legislative battles, and the politics surrounding educational reform. Later segments of the show branch into AI trends, government transparency controversies, and current US political events.
Timestamps: [00:06]–[02:46]
Timestamps: [03:55]–[08:13]
Main Points:
"You’re either going to give your money to the government and they’re going to light it on fire, or you’re going to give it to a scholarship granting organization so a kid can get a shot at school choice."
— Corey DeAngelis [04:45]
Timestamps: [08:13]–[10:02]
“They’re knocking it out of the park.”
— Corey DeAngelis on Florida [09:10]
Timestamps: [09:15]–[13:39]
“The story goes that those parents basically became single issue voters...They might have disagreed with DeSantis on everything else.”
— Corey DeAngelis [10:28]
“The child is not the mere creature of the state.”
— Corey DeAngelis [14:47]
Timestamps: [13:39]–[16:15]
“This fear mongering about choice destroying public schools has just never come true."
— Corey DeAngelis [16:08]
Timestamps: [16:15]–[19:15]
“When it’s in your own name, you’re definitely going to be backed and they have up to $2 million in this insurance. ... Randy Weingarten’s union only goes up to $1 million.”
— Corey DeAngelis [19:49]
Timestamps: [19:56]–[25:36]
“If enough Democrats do this and they lock arms and say you know what, let's join the kids union as opposed to the teachers unions ... that special interest is going to lose their sway.”
— Corey DeAngelis [24:16]
Timestamps: [30:37]–[34:00]
Timestamps: [47:59]–[52:03]
Timestamps: [36:39]–[46:51]
“They got the Steele dossier ... laundered into the intelligence community ... then they leaked it out to the media, all in an effort to influence a presidential campaign.”
— Josh Hawley [45:28]
Timestamps: [54:15]–[57:11]
Corey DeAngelis on Parental Power:
“If enough Democrats do this ... let's join the parents because they're more politically powerful than the unions because they care about their kids more than teachers unions.” [24:18]
On Teachers Unions’ Absurdity:
“Everything's beyond parody in teacher union land right now ... You just, you read the headlines like, are you freaking kidding me?” — Corey DeAngelis [21:19]
On Government Overreach:
“The child is not the mere creature of the state.” — Corey, quoting Supreme Court (Pierce v. Society of Sisters) [14:47]
On Unions and Political Activity:
“They’d rather not have the federal charter. They would rather engage in political activity, I betcha.” — Corey DeAngelis [18:49]
The episode is lively, informal, and rich with anecdotes and real-world political context. Erica and Owen frequently ground the discussion with listener questions and personal observations, keeping the tone relatable and energetic. Corey DeAngelis is direct, data-driven, and sometimes sardonic—particularly in calling out union hypocrisy and legislative inertia.
The podcast goes beyond headlines, drawing on historical context (Pierce v. Society of Sisters, 1925; the evolution of federal funding and constitutional challenges), spotlighting both statistical evidence and shifting political strategies across the country.
For the most engaged and up-to-date analysis on school choice—and for a behind-the-scenes look at how educational reform is reshaping American politics—this episode is worth a listen.