The Scott Adams School - 05/26/26 Jeff Callahan Joins the Home Team

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Real Coffee with Scott Adams

Episode: The Scott Adams School – 05/26/26 Jeff Callahan Joins the Home Team

Date: May 27, 2026
Host: Scott Adams (absent); Panel: Erica, Marcella, Owen
Special Guest: Jeff Callahan

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Main Theme:

This episode brings together Erica, Marcella, Owen, and guest Jeff Callahan for a lively conversation about current events—viewed through a "persuasion filter"—including viral celebrity moments, US immigration policy, Middle East diplomacy, LA mayoral politics, and strategies for fixing urban America.

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Key Segments and Discussion Points

1. Opening Vibes & The “Simultaneous Sip”

[00:56–02:37]

• The hosts kick off with the ritual “simultaneous sip,” setting a lighthearted, communal tone.
• Erica jokes about feeling rejuvenated, “I think you can feel your white blood cell count increasing."

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2. Viral Media Moment: The Prince/Maria Bartiromo Interview

[03:43–12:24]

• Erica describes her fascination with a viral clip where Maria Bartiromo gets stage-fright while Prince tries to coax her into singing.
• Much laughter and speculation ensues about how each panelist would have responded in that scenario.
  • Jeff Callahan praises Prince’s “unmatched aura” and playful trolling:

    “He’s just, like, having fun. He’s in his element, staying in his lane. It’s so good.” [07:43]

  • Owen admits he’d have tried to sing:

    “If he just put the microphone in front of my mouth…I would have tried to sing.” [08:15]

  • Discussion about performance anxiety, missed opportunities, and everyone’s secret wish to jam with Prince.
• The group pivots to musical instruments, sharing their own musical aspirations and fandom.

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3. Immigration Policy: Marco Rubio’s India Visit

[13:02–26:24]

• Clip: Marco Rubio, speaking in India, reiterates the US is modernizing its immigration system—emphasizing it’s not targeted at India, but is a global adjustment for national interest.
• Marcella breaks down H1B visa issues, pointing out abuses:

  “We need to look into how these companies are using H1B to avoid paying people…It wasn’t to get cheap labor…It is a competitive market.” [17:33]

• Jeff Callahan lauds Rubio’s “high ground maneuver,” and the persuasive clarity Rubio brings:

  “He does it in such a matter of fact way…it does not come across as personal, it doesn’t come across as targeted in any way.” [20:44]

• Owen shares first-hand experience working with H1B employees, points out the inherent problems and how reforms (like raising fees) are reducing applications.

  “It’s kind of like indentured servitude…[companies] know they’re not going to quit.” [22:23]

• General consensus on panel: System needs reform, but immigrants contribute a lot, and the US must balance its own interests with global talent.

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4. US-Iran, Middle East, and “Art of the Deal” Diplomacy

[27:02–39:15]

• Clip: Military update on US-Iran tensions, Strait of Hormuz, and Trump’s “Art of the Deal” approach—offering Iran choices on uranium: hand it over, destroy it in place.
• Jeff Callahan contextualizes: Everything Trump says is groundwork for a new negotiation, “shaping the next iteration of a deal...two ways to win, no ways to lose.” [29:41]
• Marcella gives a macro view, noting Trump has expanded the Iran–US deal to a wider Abraham Accords-style framework, reframing the region’s alliances and dynamics:

  “He’s listening to you, Erica…he is making everyone part of it, too. Just being Trump, making deals out of nothing.” [31:59]

• Discussion of Israel’s delicate position, Iran’s propaganda, and how framing everyone else as “missing the train” is classic Trump persuasion technique.

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5. Israel’s Nukes and Diplomatic Realpolitik

[36:50–39:15]

• Erica broaches the nuclear arms issue:

  “Shouldn’t everybody be disarming their nukes?” [36:50]

• Jeff responds:

  “Trump doesn’t like nuclear weapons…But the reality is, you could say, maybe we should all give them up, maybe we should all have them…It’s a tough question.” [37:18]

• General agreement that Israel will never officially confirm or deny its nuclear capability, but Trump’s “bigger table” approach to deals might get more countries playing together.

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6. LA Mayoral Race: Spencer Pratt’s Campaign & Election Challenges

[41:10–54:11]

• Spencer Pratt (reality TV star) is shaking up the LA mayoral race.
• Jeff Callahan’s book “Confidence Maxing” is mentioned as inspiration for Pratt; analysis focuses on “high ground” persuasion—Pratt appeals to the under-served middle class, just as Trump did in 2015.

  “[Pratt’s] entire campaign is a continuous seeking and capturing of the high ground.” [44:29]

• Anecdotes about LA’s decay (crime, homelessness, police station closing at 6pm), and why Pratt’s straightforward message is surging him ahead:

  “Where I am, the decay will no longer be. And that’s exactly what we’re seeing.” [45:29]

• Concerns over ballot harvesting, mail-in ballots, and the entrenched LA political machine.
  • Marcella:

    “He is the David against the Goliath…Once he becomes mayor, the machine is still there.” [46:59]

• Panel urges vigilance—observation at ballot drop-off, ensuring fair process, and encourages legal action where needed (Marcella points to lawsuits led by Carl DeMaio).

  “I think it would be incredibly interesting if…I don’t know what Trump could do necessarily, but if he was to…send the appropriate personnel there just to watch…these dropboxes.” – Jeff [50:49]

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7. Middle Class & American Priorities Fatigue

[41:10–43:03]

• Erica and panel rail against the neglect of the middle class in national politics:

  “The middle class is just going to take way more from you…there’s no incentive for the middle class to do better.” [41:10]

• The sentiment: "Focus on the homeland. Every country should do their best to take care of themselves."
• Connection: This is why outsider campaigns (Trump, Pratt) resonate—they promise to fix the things that affect daily American life.

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8. Calls to Action, Closing Thoughts & Tributes

[57:01–59:30]

• Panel wraps with calls for Pratt to be vigilant about voting integrity.
• Erica celebrates the everyday, reminds listeners:

  “Be useful, mentor, teach. Be kind. Lead with kindness and love.” [59:30]

• Heartfelt birthday shoutouts and gratitude for Scott Adams and Shelley for making the show possible.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Unmatched aura, I think, is what the kids are saying...he’s just, like, having fun. Like, he’s in his element.” – Jeff Callahan on Prince [07:43]
• “He does it in such a matter of fact way—it does not come across as personal, it doesn’t come across as targeted in any way.” – Jeff on Marco Rubio [20:44]
• “It’s kind of like indentured servitude…the way that visa works. You can’t get that visa until you’re sponsored by a company. And once that company sponsors you, you’re basically captive to that company.” – Owen [22:23]
• “Most of what Trump does almost all the time is he’s constantly shaping the next iteration of…a negotiation.” – Jeff Callahan [29:41]
• “He is the David against the Goliath…Once he becomes mayor, the machine is still there.” – Marcella on Spencer Pratt [46:59]
• “Go enjoy your Tuesday!” – Jeff (closing) [59:20]

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Timestamps Guide

• [00:56] Simultaneous Sip Ritual, lighthearted banter
• [03:43–12:24] Prince/Bartiromo viral interview & panel’s musical fandom
• [13:02–26:24] Marco Rubio’s India trip, immigration, H1B, panel analysis
• [27:02–39:15] US-Iran tensions, Art of the Deal diplomacy, Abraham Accords discussion
• [41:10–54:11] Focus on LA politics, Spencer Pratt’s mayoral campaign, urban decay
• [54:11–59:30] Election integrity, encouragement, panel wrap-up

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Tone & Takeaways

• Warm, conversational, sometimes irreverent, with persuasive analysis and a focus on practical implications for American life.
• Heavy on real-world anecdotes, audience engagement, and “insider” takes on persuasion in politics.
• Strong sense of community among the panel, with lively disagreement, expert input, and lots of laughter.

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For listeners new or returning:
This episode offers a fast-moving, relatable panel discussion blending serious policy analysis, pop culture, personal stories, and practical commentary on persuasion, public life, and fixing what’s broken in America.

Transcript

[Erica]

Let me bring up locals.

[Marcella]

Good morning, everybody.

[Jeff Callahan]

Morning.

[Owen]

Good morning. Hi, Bookish.

[Marcella]

Look who we have here.

[Owen]

Hi, Beverly.

[Marcella]

Oh, I did it right.

[Owen]

I see Crusher. Montreal. Galaxy. Kobe. Nefarious.

[Erica]

Kobe. Kobe.

[Owen]

Yard salad.

[Erica]

It's a delicious salad. You guys, look, we have Jeff Callahan back with us on this beautiful Tuesday morning. There he is. Lots of fun stuff going on, so just right out of the gate. Before I forget, Owen will be dropping out around the halfway mark. So if he just disappears, don't blame me, okay? It wasn't my fault.

[Owen]

It's all my fault.

[Erica]

It's all his fault. All right, so let's get her going. You guys. Are we ready? YouTube. X rumble. Spotify. Hi, guys. All right, let's go.

[Host/Narrator]

This is the place where we gather once a day at the same time for that amazing celebration, the thing that makes, well, everything better. You know it does. It's called the simultaneous sip. And you don't need much to participate. Now the requirements, very low. All you need is a cup or a mug or a glass, a tank or chalice or stein, a canteen, jug or flask, a vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee. And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better, the simultaneous sip. Go. Now, aren't you glad you hurried to get your beverage, get in here on time and enjoy it in the most simultaneous way possible. Yeah. I think you can feel your white blood cell count increasing. I think you all look a little bit younger. I can tell you're happier, more productive, smarter, for sure. And all of that. All of that because of the simultaneous sip. Yeah. You'd like to take some credit yourself, but I don't think that's appropriate. I think it was the sip that did it all.

[Erica]

Yeah. That would not be appropriate. And just for that, you guys join me in one more extra sip. Because if all that just happened. Let's. Let's just hit it one more time. Let's go. Yeah. I needed extra white blood cells, I think today.

[Owen]

I like the old school ones where he's playing around with the formula and doing a little weave before he starts. It's great.

[Erica]

I know.

[Owen]

I'm still waiting to see when he. When he gets the Erica mug, though.

[Erica]

I know. Not yet. I think I forget what year we're in, but we're going day by day. We're getting there, peeps. We're getting there. Okay, so I have to just start with a Maria Bartiromo moment. We need A. We need a good title for our Maria Bartiromo obsession. And I realize it might just be my obsession, but I can't stop with her. So I'm sorry, whoever sent this to me, I forget who it was. Oh, hi, I'm Erica, you guys. And we are at the Scott Adams School. I'm so excited. I feel like everyone just knows. And we are joined with our special guest co host today, Jeff Callahan. And always my amazing and beautiful and talented co host, Marcella and Owen. So in Maria Bartiromo news. I'm sorry, I forget who sent this to me. This is an oldie but a goodie. I love this. So you should know Owen and I are huge Prince fans. Are you guys Marcela or Jeff? Do you love Princess?

[Marcella]

I do.

[Jeff Callahan]

I. I love Prince from the. From the 1989 Batman soundtrack is just love it. It's everything. It's so good.

[Erica]

Oh, that's awesome. And Marcella, you're like, yeah, I love them.

[Marcella]

No, I actually do.

[Erica]

Oh, okay.

[Marcella]

Yeah.

[Erica]

Okay. Because I like. I. Okay. Owen and I are like obsessed with Prince. This is like our biggest thing in common. I would say so. I just want you to know I believe. I want to believe she handled this better than I would. Although I'll tell you what I told Owen what I think I might have done. But just picture your Maria. Just picture your Maria. Ready? Let's go.

[Prince]

What do you feel like playing tonight? If you were to play something for us.

[Prince's Accompanist]

If I was to play something for

[Jeff Callahan]

you,

[Prince's Accompanist]

I'd be your accompanyist and you'd you do your thing.

[Prince]

But I'm not a singer.

[Prince's Accompanist]

Neither am I.

[Erica]

Yes.

[Prince's Accompanist]

You look a little nervous.

[Prince]

I am nervous because we just went through this during the. During the commercial break and Prince said that he would play a song if I were to sing. And I'm not a singer, but. And I don't know a lot of the words to the song, so would you want to play something for us?

[Prince's Accompanist]

I'll play something for you.

[Erica]

Okay.

[Prince's Accompanist]

You. You, you thinking about what you want to sing?

[Erica]

She's dying.

[Prince's Accompanist]

How about Delirious?

[Owen]

Go on.

[Erica]

I am flanking out in the forest.

[Prince's Accompanist]

You don't know any blues?

[Prince]

Blues I love.

[Erica]

I have a chest.

[Prince]

I didn't know you were gonna do this. I didn't know you were gonna do this.

[Erica]

Okay.

[Prince]

How about one of your oldies since you're telling everybody that you're not gonna be playing your oldies anymore. How about Purple Rain?

[Prince's Accompanist]

I don't know that one.

[Erica]

You do.

[Prince]

You lie.

[Prince's Accompanist]

Okay. You sing it.

[Erica]

How could I even try.

[Prince's Accompanist]

Go.

[Erica]

I'm sitting here with Prince.

[Prince]

I'm gonna sing.

[Prince's Accompanist]

She's tearing up.

[Prince]

That's not what the audience wants.

[Erica]

At least sit on his lap.

[Marcella]

Yeah.

[Erica]

You're killing me.

[Prince's Accompanist]

That's the idea.

[Prince]

You are great, Prince. Thank you so much. I'm sorry I wimped out. I'm just. I'm afraid because I don't have a voice.

[Erica]

Sitting here with the genius of all

[Prince]

music, and you're asking me to sing.

[Erica]

Would you die? I mean, what would. All right, so, Marcella, give us your female take on this.

[Marcella]

Oh, I would have sat on his lap.

[Erica]

That's what I said. Yeah.

[Marcella]

And I would have, like, created a song. I don't know. I probably didn't know all the words, you know, but I think they had a talk earlier because she said our talk or before the interview, so I would have expected the unexpected from Prince. Maybe. I guess she wasn't. So I get it. You know, she didn't want to make a fool out of herself, but.

[Erica]

Oh, my God.

[Marcella]

So she looks. She was blushing so much.

[Erica]

Oh, my gosh. It's like the ultimate just, like, please make this moment end vibe that you get from her. Jeff, now, you know you're a dude, so I know it's different, but.

[Jeff Callahan]

Well, I look at. I look at Prince and I say, like, unmatched aura, I think, is what the kids are saying. Like, it's just, like, picks up that, and he's just, like, having fun. Like, he's in his element, staying in his lane. It's so good. It's so, so good.

[Erica]

I know. And he's just, like. So, like Owen and I were saying before he's trolling her. I mean, this is. He is funny. Like, he's a really funny guy, and he likes to joke around. So if you don't know that about him, it might really catch you off guard. But he's totally trolling her. So, Owen, would you have sat in his lap?

[Owen]

No, but I would have sung something. I think so. I mean, I think I told you before the show, like, I don't know for. And I don't want to be unfair to Maria because, you know, I don't. Like, I. You know, there was one time where I was at front row center at one of Princess shows, and if he just put the microphone in front of my mouth, I don't know what I would have done or how well I would have done, but I'm pretty sure I would have tried to sing. I would have tried to do what he asked me to. Do. And, you know, it's. Again, it's not necessarily fair to Maria, because if she doesn't know the words, I can understand how she doesn't even know how to start. But come on, she knew Purple Rain. Everybody knows Purple Rain. She could have sung something.

[Erica]

I don't know. I mean, remember when he pulled Kim Kardashian up on stage to dance? And she just stood there and he's like, get her out of here. She wouldn't play along. Yeah, she. Yeah, he brought her up, like, at the Garden on stage, like, pulled her out of the crowd, and he's like, yeah, he's like, dance. Like, all she had to do was just. Anything, just move. And she just stood and she was like, no, no. And then he's like, get her off the stage. I was like, oh, my God.

[Owen]

Entertaining. I mean, that's the whole thing. But I think, you know, to me, it's just a huge missed opportunity for Maria, because if she had sung anything, anything, even if it wasn't very good, you know, I think it would have been a huge thing. Like, she. She would have been able to say, I sang a song with Prince. And, you know, I know that Prince has made a lot of, you know, women into stars over the years, and I was mentioning to Erica earlier that, like, even her. Even his sound engineer, he had sing background vocals, and he would have other people like that, just, like, here, sing this and have people do it that weren't necessarily professionals either. But, you know, I can understand how she'd be embarrassed and not want to do it and not want to make a fool of herself. So I totally get the feeling. But I just think if she had been able to sing something, it would have been incredible, and she would have won the day.

[Erica]

But if she had done that. Oh, and I'm with Goldie. My point was she didn't do it, and that's why we're playing it today. And that's what made it go viral, was the. Like, that everybody would just want. I think it's a girl thing, too, right? Like, if it's a woman and you're like, it's Prince, you know, like, you kind of curl up like, oh, my God, not me.

[Marcella]

I would have been like, maybe Marcella.

[Erica]

You never know. Maybe.

[Marcella]

But that's just how I am.

[Owen]

But, I mean, if you knew the words to Delirious and you knew the words to, you know, Purple Rain and other things, then you might have been like, sure, I'll do it. Okay, let's go.

[Marcella]

You know, that's the difference between now and. And before. Because now you just, like, rocket, you know, like, okay, take out your phone. Like, ask AI to tell you the words for it, and read them out loud. I don't know.

[Erica]

I would be like, sometimes it snows in April. Like, you know, like, throw one at him. Right, Owen?

[Owen]

Sure. I mean, if. Whatever song, you know.

[Erica]

Yeah.

[Owen]

I would say that one's probably a little less mainstream. Everybody knows that song type of thing. I mean, and it would have been a very different vibe. But, you know, again, I'm sure Prince probably would have rolled with it because he can improvise on just about anything.

[Erica]

Wait, Maria plays the accordion, does she?

[Marcella]

Do you guys play the guitar? Any of you?

[Owen]

I play it very badly.

[Erica]

What? Drop your instruments. I know Mike Burt's here, so I already know what he's gonna say, but drop your instrument. Instruments in the chat that you play.

[Owen]

Yeah, I would say I've tried to learn the guitar for. Since I was, you know, 21 or even less, and mostly inspired by Prince. I mean, I wanted to be able to play Prince songs. And I think that was part of the problem, is that when I was a beginner, it's like, you can't play Prince songs. There's nothing simple about any Prince songs. There's not very much you can do. And I'm sure there are some that are easier than others. But, like, you know, if you want to play Purple Rain, you know, go look up the actual chord, like, shapes. You have to be able to stretch your hand across that fretboard a lot, and it's really hard. And I know there are, like, you know, campfire versions of it, or they can make it better, but it doesn't sound like the record. So I wanted to do it the right way. But it's just like. It was kind of discouraging at the outset to say, oh, I gotta work for years to get to the point where I could play any of this stuff.

[Erica]

All right, well, the chat did not disappoint with their instrument dropping. A lot of you seem to play the same one particular instrument. I'm proud of you all. All right, so we're gonna move on. We can't. Not that we can't sing. We can't sing. Or we'll get dinged by YouTube for singing a song, even a few lyrics, even if we hum it. So we're off the hook. Okay? So moving along, Owen, before, you know, you drop off, we thought, let's do a little bit more serious news with you. And I Have Rubio here if you want to set up this clip for me. That would be awesome. And I'll. And then I'll play it.

[Owen]

Sure. So Marco Rubio was over in India and having a bunch of discussions with them about the policy. I think he got some concerns from them about, like, the visa situation, and I think certainly from India. I can understand why they're worried about that. But it seemed like he basically took kind of a hard stance on it, that he was, like, saying, you know, it needs to be America first. And, you know, sorry, this is just the way it's got to be. But I guess we'll watch the clip and see what that is. But essentially the situation is he was over in India doing his diplomatic talk with them. And here we go.

[Erica]

Okay, let's take a look.

[Marco Rubio]

I take and accept what you've just said about the contribution that Indians have made to the US economy. Over $20 billion have been invested in the US economy by Indian companies. We want that number to continue to increase. And obviously the expertise as well that they've provided into our economy has been very, very valuable. I don't want you to view or anyone. I made this point yesterday. Interview. The changes that are happening now or the modernization of our migration system into the United States is not focused. It's not India specific. It is global. It's being applied across the world. We are in a period of modernization. And I'll be frank and honest with you because it's important to talk about this. We've had a migratory crisis in the United States. This is not because of India, but broadly. We had over 20 million people illegally enter the United States over the last few years. And we've had to address that challenge in addition to that challenge. And I think this is true for India. This is true for every country in the world. Okay? Everything that you do as a country needs to be in your national interest, and that includes your immigration policy. The United States, I believe, is the most welcoming country in the world on immigration. You know, every single year, a million people roughly become permanent residents of the United States and contribute greatly. My parents entered the United States as permanent residents in 1956 from Cuba. And so it's a process that's enriched us, but it has to be a process that's adjusted in every era to the realities of the modern times in which you live. And it's long overdue. So the United States is currently undergoing a process of reforming the system by which we choose how many people come into our country, who comes in when they come in, et cetera. Any time you undertake a reform, anytime you undertake a change in the system by which you admit people, or frankly, anytime you undertake a reform in any system, not just on immigration, there are going to be, there's going to be a period of transition that's going to create, you know, some friction points and some difficulties and so forth. Ultimately, we think when this process is in place, once this process has been modernized, and that's really what it is, we are modernizing the US immigration system for the 21st century so that it is an immigration system that's not just good for the America, but it's also good for the people that are coming. Once we are complete and once we've done the work of modernizing that system, I think we're going to come up with a system. We're going to wind up with a system that's more efficient and even better than the previous system and in some ways may prove to be even more beneficial than the previous system was to people from India that seek to enter the United States to work and innovate. But obviously there's going to be a period of adjustment along the way. So I just, I don't, what I want to leave clear is that the changes, while they may be having a disproportionate impact on a place like India that provides so many high skilled workers to the US Economy, it is not a system that is targeted at India, it is one that's being applied globally. But we're in a period of transition. And like any period of transition, you know, there's going to be some, you know, some, some bumps on that road. But we think ultimately our destination is going to be a better system, a more efficient system, one that works better than the one that we had in place previously and more sustainable. By the way.

[Erica]

He's great. Oop, am I there? Yeah. Can you guys hear me okay?

[Owen]

Yeah.

[Erica]

Okay. My volume just got weird. He's great. I love seeing him on the international stage. Marcela, I'm going to come to you first. I like what he's doing. I like him on the world stage. We all have questions about immigration and I'd love to, you know, I'd love to. I love the talk about modernizing it, you know, the contributions of immigrants to our country. Like, we get it. So I always say to Marcel, I'm like, you are our immigrant representative. I'm coming to you first. We're very diverse over here, aren't we?

[Marcella]

You know, so the, the, the, the majority of the Immigrants that come in from India, and everybody's gonna crock it right now, and I'll be wrong, but to my understanding, it's under H1B visas. And the idea of the H1B was to. To allow certain workers that you didn't have at home. You know, it wasn't to get cheap labor from another country and then fire your employees that are here that are more costly. So I think that what Marco is saying is that across the board, generally, all laws will be enforced the same way. I think we talked about enforcing the laws the same way to everybody yesterday. And suicidal empathy. There is no empathy special for you or special for this person. I think despite the fact that India has given a lot of great immigrants to this country, we need to look into how these Companies are using H1B to avoid paying people, you know, the right amount of money. And, you know, I'm the first one to be a capitalist and, And. And not want government to enforce any kind of rules over business. But I think it needs to be looked into and enforced. I. I don't think it has been. You know, so it is a competitive market where you have to sort of like, you know, be competitive as against India, against Ukraine, against Russia, all of these different areas where they have, you know, computer tech people. But I just, you know, it's not. I think India takes it personally or, you know, as their country, but it is not. And I love the way that Marco does things because he doesn't make them feel like they are the only ones that. That we are targeting. He has a great way of leading them to a certain relation where they have this good relationship. The other thing that happened in India, and I know I'll be quick, is that they signed an agreement between India and the US for the minerals. Minerals and rare earth. And this was just today or earlier today. And that will help us against China, because usually the supply chain had China in it and had China being controlled that supply, but.

[Erica]

All right, that was great analysis. Thank you. Okay, so, Jeff, I'm going to come to you next. I don't know your take on these things because you're still new to us. So tell us, you know, your. Your thoughts on this.

[Jeff Callahan]

Yeah. So Marco Rubio, whenever I hear him speak, he just seems incredibly composed and incredibly well thought out. And what I'll call attention to is he said something along the lines of, like, it's in every nation's best interest to do what's right for that nation. And I'm just a sucker for the Scott Adams perspective of the high ground maneuver. I mean, I just love seeing it executed. And I think that there are some sort of offshoots and variations of it. And I think Marco Rubio hit it perfectly where he's like, look, we have to do what's right for us. And what's right for us is looking at everything that's going on with their immigration system and seeing if there's a better, more efficient, smarter way to do it. And to Marcelo's point, he does it in a way. Rubio does it in a way where you get the sense that he's just relaying how things are going to be. And he does it in such a matter of fact way that she was right. When it does not come across as personal, it doesn't come across as sort of targeted in any way. And so I find myself nodding along with Marco Rubio a lot more than almost anyone just because sort of the delivery, the content and he, he tries to find a way to do that high ground whenever possible. So I love to see it.

[Erica]

I agree. I think, I think he's been tremendous on the world stage, for sure. Okay, Owen, tell us your whole kit and caboodle on this one.

[Owen]

Sure.

[Marco Rubio]

So.

[Owen]

Well, I mean, first, I agree that he. I think Marco Rubio was very diplomatic and very persuasive in terms of how he delivered that. I think he did a great job and essentially not backing down, not trying to, you know, like give anything up or say, oh, we're going to take care of you or any of that. He just said, look, this is how it's going to be and I'm going to give it to you straight. But the way he said it with the phrasing, I think he did it in a very, very non aggressive way. You know, he didn't say something like, it's not personal, it's just business. Even though that's kind of his message. And so I think he did a great job with that. I think he's a good politician from that perspective in terms of how he delivers the message. But, you know, I also think he's right in terms of just the problem we have with H1BS and other legal immigration that, you know, he didn't get into it and probably that was smart. But the reality is that system has been horribly abused and US companies are abusing it. I would say even the people that are getting the H1BS are being abused because it's kind of like a little bit like indentured servitude. Because the way that visa works. You can't get that visa until you're sponsored by a company. And once that company sponsors you, you're basically captive to that company. You can't just go get another job. I mean, you can if you, you know, find one, I guess, but it's very rare and it's hard to do. Like, once you have a job, you're kind of stuck there until you get your green card and all that. And I think that's the hope with most of them is they're hoping to get the lottery and I think only 30% or something get that. So, you know, it's kind of like they're just playing the odds and hoping they're going to be one of the lucky ones. And I've had personal this. I've had someone on my project at work say, I've got to leave tomorrow because I didn't get my renewal of my H1B and so I'm going to Canada tomorrow and I can't work on this project anymore. And I had to replace that person. And, you know, it's very sad and I'm sure it impacts those people too, a lot. I mean, you know, it's basically them not getting what they were hoping for all those years. But, you know, I do think that even though personally I would say all the H1Bs I've worked with, and it's been a lot. I mean, I've worked with a lot of people from India that have gotten H1BS and other countries, but, like, they're all great people that I worked with and I do think India sends a lot of their best people here. I don't have any personal complaints about the people I worked with. It's just, I do think that we probably could have found Americans that were just as qualified in many of those cases. I think that's the problem is that in many cases companies are taking advantage of the system by saying, we can pay less to these people and we know they're not going to quit. And so we don't have to give them raises or bonuses as much as an American. Because if an American, you know, doesn't like what they're, how we're treating them, they can go somewhere else. These people can't. And so I think they end up offshoring or on shoring some of these positions to Indians at in large numbers, by the way. It's not a trivial thing. It's a lot of people.

[Erica]

It is.

[Owen]

And you know, it's taking those jobs away from Americans and if we need them Meaning you literally, honestly can't find an American to do that. Okay, I can buy that. You know, we should take Indians or whatever, whoever's the most qualified to do those jobs. But I think by and large, most of them are not like that. Most of them are people that you could have hired someone out of college from an American university that was in computer science or whatever field you're talking about, and they're just as qualified and they could do the job just as well. Maybe you do have to pay them a little more, but you'd be giving that job to an American. And so, you know, right now we don't have a lot of unemployment, but we have in the past and we probably will again. And I think so it does need to be reformed, it needs to be fixed. And so I'm glad he's doing it. And it does seem like we're making progress with the reforms. Another story I had posted today was that the visa applications for H1B are down 38% since Trump made his reforms. I think that was probably the hundred thousand dollar fee more than anything else. But it does seem like, you know, we're making good progress on that. But I think we have a long way to go.

[Erica]

It does, it does oftentimes feel like foreigners are just saturating everything in our country between schools and jobs. So it's concerning. It' concerning. All right, that's awesome. You guys all had awesome analysis about this. Owen, do you have a hard out at 10:30 or at 9:30?

[Owen]

Yeah, I do. So I have to go on a few minutes.

[Erica]

Okay. So I. Okay, so I wanted to just get into Iran real quick. I have a clip if. Owen, if you have to go, go. Okay, but let's, let's jump into this real quick. United States conducted self defense strikes near

[Owen]

the straight of Horu Monday and Iran's

[Erica]

supreme leader is calling for an end to US military bases in the Gulf region saying, quote, the hands of time will not turn back.

[Owen]

Chief foreign correspondent Trey Yings joining us

[Jeff Callahan]

now live from Tel Aviv with the very latest. Good morning, Trey.

[Erica]

Yeah.

[Trey Yings]

Hey guys.

[Marco Rubio]

Good morning.

[Trey Yings]

Overnight, the United States conducted airstrikes against southern Iran near the Strait of Hormuz. CENTCOM says the strikes were defensive in nature and went after mine laying vessels along with a surface to air missile position. These were the first US strikes that have targeted Iran since early May. A spokesperson for Iran's armed forces said any new aggression will be met with a far more severe response. The strikes come amid the backdrop of ongoing diplomatic efforts to reach an agreement between Iran and the United States. Overnight, President Trump laid out a condition that he has saying on truth social media, the enriched uranium nuclear dust will either be immediately turned over to the United States to be brought home and destroyed, or preferably in conjunction and coordination with the Islamic Republic of Iran, destroyed in place or at another acceptable location with the Atomic Energy Commission or its equivalent being witness to this process and event. Thank you for your attention to this matter. The other key issue has to do with the Strait of Hormuz. Secretary of State Marco Rubio reiterated the Trump administration position on this critical waterway during a gaggle today.

[Marco Rubio]

The streets have to be open. They're going to be open one way or the other, so they need to be open. What's happening there is unlawful, it's illegal, it's unsustainable for the world.

[Erica]

It's unacceptable.

[Marco Rubio]

That cannot happen. The streets need to be open, unimpeded, without tolls. And obviously, that needs to happen to me as soon as any.

[Trey Yings]

We're also tracking developments in the conflict between Israel and Iran.

[Erica]

All right, Owen is gone. I was like, owen, I was gonna come right to you. And he's gone. Like, that was like, speechless. He is speechless. He's like, I. I can't. I have no words. All right, So I would love to know. I, I don't, I don't fully understand what's going on with, you know, our. Oh, by the way, you guys, if you think there's a crying baby, it's Stella, my cat. I'm screaming. So anyway, so what? So we went from like, you have to get rid of this. Well, maybe you can just turn it into something else and leave it in, in your country. And I don't know. I'm so confused about everything. I felt like it was like an all or nothing thing, and now it's like a. Well, so you know what, Jeff, I'm gonna just come to you first on this clip. And how would you explain what is happening to someone like me?

[Jeff Callahan]

Well, how I've been viewing this whole Iran Straight a Hormuz thing is I was reading Art of the Deal, or I was listening to Art of the Deal as I was cleaning out my chickens. And you know, okay, yeah, yeah, I have backyard chickens. And I think most of what Trump does almost all the time is he's constantly shaping the next iteration of, of a deal or negotiation. So I don't pay too much close attention to any specific request that Trump does because I know that it's probably part of a larger strategy where he's trying to shape something to his preference or just a preferable outcome. It doesn't have to even necessarily be the perfect outcome. I think of two ways to win, no ways to lose, where it's like, well, you know, we can take the uranium or we can destroy there. And so he's giving a wide framework of potential options so that however the actual details shake out, he's going to win. And it's like he's been doing it for 10 years, 11 years, or, well, you know, his entire career.

[Erica]

Entire life. Yeah.

[Jeff Callahan]

And it's like it's some version of that. I can guarantee you that that's probably the thought process. It's something in that neighborhood. And so I, I kind of look at, like, what actually ends up getting done rather than the specific hows of the diverging paths that could get you there. And so when I see a story like that, I think, oh, it's, it's just Trump shaping another permutation of, of a preferable outcome.

[Erica]

Now I think it's, again, this is always just our own opinions. I think it's kind of complicated too, because he also has to deal with Israel. So it's like Israel's got their own goals, we have our own goals, Iran has their goals. And so it's kind of like, okay, I have to turn in all these different directions. I have to keep everybody satisfied and come up with a. I guess a good way to get this done and get out is what I'm, I'm assuming the goal would be. So I don't know. Marcella, do you, do you have a, an idea? Do you know, do you have like a. I don't know. Do you feel like it's going the right way?

[Marcella]

Yeah, definitely it's going the right way. He's making something out of nothing because he's actually expanded. This is President Trump. He's expanding the deal between Iran and the US To a bigger deal of the, of the region. Just a few days ago, he posted this on Truth and in it is a giant Bill Ackman sort of post. But in it he says, therefore I mandatorily request. Therefore I am. I am mandatorily requesting that all countries immediately sign the Abraham Accords and that if Iran signs its agreement with me as President of the United States of America, it would be an honor to have them also be part of this imperial world coalition. What does that mean? That means that Israel will have to. Is part of the Abraham Accords and will have relations with Iran which they have never had. In the history of anything. So that Israeli normalization deal with the Abrahamic courts brings it into a even bigger deal. You know, it's like he's making, like he talks about the deal with Iran being either great or, or no deal at all. So he's going, he's going big or he's going home. And what I like about this position is that you talked about this, Erica, earlier on, in many other shows is that Israel can kind of derail the negotiations with Iran by, you know, attacking Hezbollah and Lebanon, which Hezbollah is, quote, unquote, a proxy of Iran in, or any other, you know, any other proxy that they have, and that will derail the relation. And you've talked about how Israel can destroy any kind of negotiations that we have as the US With Iran. But this is basically, he's listening to you, Erica, President Trump, and he's saying, okay, now you have to Israel, now you have to come and, and everybody has to come and sign the Abraham Accords as well and be part of this giant group. So he is making everybody part of it, too. So it's not just like a US Thing. Jeff might have the right words for it, but, you know, it's that kind of thing that he is just being Trump, making deals out of nothing.

[Erica]

You know, do we know how these other countries are initially reacting to that? Because, correct me if I'm wrong, I feel like most of these countries don't like Israel.

[Marcella]

No, actually they've, they've gotten along with Israel quite well because they had the Iran enemy. Right. So they, at least in the last few months, the UAE has been getting along with Israel as well as Saudi Arabia and Oman and Qatar have been getting along diplomatically. I mean, they're not best friends, right, but they've been getting along. The, the issue is Iran, right? Is Iran. Iran has never liked Israel. Israel's never liked Iran. And I think there was a phone call earlier last week between Bibi and Trump that didn't go so well because I, I don't think Israel, I think the proposal, the, the country that probably is more, more against it is Israel. That's just my take from the way that the Israeli news has been covering it. But it's funny you ask. Iran also had their gator publish a new message today. So Mustava Khomeini published this on X, I believe, but I don't know if it's on their telegram as well. He called the war against the US And Israel a victory for the Islamic Resistance, of course. Two 2 mo screen. We won if we're going to do this deal, we win. He also said that Israel is nearing their final stage of a cursed demise. Declared America will no longer have a safe military bases in the region. They're probably going to try to negotiate that. That's, that's the, the, the thing that they want to do. They called an Iranian hash pilgrim to spread the message of Iran's victory. Invited all Islamic nations to unite towards a new regional order. So right now, most of the message that the, the Ayatollah is putting out is messages for their own country to look like, not to lose face in front of them. That's how I see it. I don't know about.

[Erica]

Yeah, I, I was gonna say that. I was just reading some of the comments. Yes, Sandy. Yeah. Israel needs our weapons. And then, you know, I know what the answer is going to be, but I'm just like, why can Israel have a nuke? Like, shouldn't everybody be disarming their nukes? I know that they're like a sitting duck in that region, but shouldn't everybody be disarming their nukes? Okay. And I'm just going to toss it to you, Jeff.

[Jeff Callahan]

Yeah. You know, from what I understand about President Trump, he doesn't like nuclear weapons. You know, I think he respects the, like, the only times I've ever really seen him just like, almost be lost for words is when he talks about the devastation of a nuclear weapon. And I think that's appropriate. Right? Like, if you, if you've done any, any research into what a nuclear weapon can do, you're like, oh, man, maybe we shouldn't have done that. Like, maybe, maybe we should have kept that box closed. And so you bring up a good point. It's like, should any country have nuclear weapons? The reality is you could say, maybe we should all give them up. Maybe we should all have them. The reality is we live in a world where some superpowers have them, some superpowers don't. And it's a tough question. I don't think that there's any, any world in which Israel would give up their undisclosed amount of nuclear weapons because their position has always been we will neither confirm nor deny that we have nuclear weapons. Right. But I do think that probably a good move by Trump is saying, like, hey, there is a much larger table, which instead of it being sort of a three way negotiation between Israel, Iran and the United States, it's now a, you can just picture the table of a really giant table with all of these different countries and every country's role is somewhat diminished. Israel being one where it's like, you got to hop on the train of peace that's moving. You have to run to catch up with a train. Grab the handrail. The conductor has to lift you up. There's something magic that Trump does every once in a while where it's kind of the. The train is moving. You better get aboard.

[Erica]

He's like, come along, come along. Yeah, I. I love that. I love the come along feeling. Because nobody. I don't care if you're a country or a person, but nobody wants to feel like the odd man out. And if they're pretending they do, it's. You know, I feel like it's like that kid that was, like, bullied, and they're like, no, I like it over here. Or they are the bully because they're insecure. So I look at it the same way. I. I think the Abraham Accords are the most brilliant thing I've seen. I never thought I'd see it. So that's an amazing thing. So can we have another grouping? That would be fabulous for everybody, but, you know, there's so much history, and then I just don't know. Well, I don't want to, like, start getting, like, the whole Gaza thing now into the Israel thing, into the Iran thing, but it's just so much. And I just feel like we are, whether it's right or wrong or indifferent. I'm just saying, guys, we just are so intertwined with Israel, with all of their beef with everybody, that it's just like, who, you know, are we spread too thin, you know, on their behalf? Are we okay here? I don't know. So that's what worries me. So I just want Israel to just kind of, like, play it cool. Don't drop any unnecessary. Everybody just calm down.

[Jeff Callahan]

Don't go for that. For that one last smack, right? It's like, look, we're so close. It would probably be good for us to get out of our entanglements. Focus on the homeland, please. Which would be helpful for the midterms and just helpful, like, beyond politically. Like, seeing. Goes back to the H1B thing, like, help middle class America. Like, that is a winning message. Like, that's. We'll talk about it in a second. But that's why Spencer Pratt's doing so well. It's like, you really have to focus on providing a good life for middle school class America.

[Erica]

We run the ship. We run the ship. And I talked about this yesterday, right, you guys, we were talking about Oprah, and I was just like, you have to either be like, totally check all the boxes. My blue hair, my trans, my, you know, poor upbringing. And, you know, we had to pee outside in a pot, like, okay to, you know, like, the richest of the rich. And then you're just like. And for you in the middle class, like, we're going to ignore you. You just keep driving the ship, creating the jobs, paying the taxes, you know, but Oprah's going to give all of them a car, and you guys are all rich and you can do what you want. And then you're like, what about us? You know, like, there's no incentive for the middle class to do better because they're just going to take way more from you. You have to go from, like, middle class to fricking wealthy to not feel the pain in between there. And that's just very difficult to do. So, yeah, I would really love to see focus on our. On the homeland. I would love to see every country do their absolute best to take care of themselves. And, like, I know not to sound like a. But it's really, like, not our problem, but we're making it our problem. So it's kind of like enough now. And that's, like, where the, the, like, fatigue comes in. It's not like we don't. We want everyone to be safe and peaceful and prosper and, you know, live in harmony. However, it can't be ongoing and never ending and at the expense of our country. And that's what a lot of us are seeing. And I'd much rather, you know, I'll always vote for the Republican. I will never vote for the loony Democrats, but there are people that will because they feel ignored again. And yeah, I want to go right into Spencer Pratt on that because I always say, like, you know, he's Trump 2015. He is just.

[Marcella]

He.

[Erica]

I, I told you guys not to be like, I told you so. But I told you guys that he does not want a Trump endorsement. He just like, leave me alone. Like, I'm good over here. And Jeff, I wish you were here that day because, you know, Joel thought it was a good thing. You know, maybe people thought it was a good thing. And I'm like, leave him alone. He's fine. Like, he's appealing to the. The Angelenos, and I love that about him, that he just stays in the middle of the road. It's the perfect, perfect thing. So give us all your. Spencer. Oh, wait, but look at this, you guys. Oh, yeah, Spencer posted that he is listening to Jeff's Book confidence maxing. He posted it on his X account. Isn't that amazing?

[Jeff Callahan]

Yeah. You know, you've. It's really gratifying to spend a year of your life pouring everything, you know, into a book and then Spencer Pat just casually drops the. Oh, yeah, by the way, I'm listening to the audiobook right now.

[Erica]

Right in the middle of everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jeff Callahan]

It's like, it's like he, he's got all this extra time, you know, he's running for mayor. Like, he's probably just like lounging by the pool listening to my book. Right?

[Erica]

Congratulations.

[Jeff Callahan]

I heard he only sleeps like two or three hours a night and it's like, okay, well, I mean, I guess, yeah.

[Erica]

So, congratulations. That was a huge endorsement. So what did you. Let's start there. What did you think? I loved his response about Trump and I loved how he said the only person, you know, endorsement I want are the moms.

[Jeff Callahan]

Yeah, the moms and the animal lovers.

[Erica]

Yes.

[Jeff Callahan]

And it's like he does. The article I'm working on now that is going to be part four is on Spencer Pratt's use of the high ground, which his entire campaign is a continuous seeking and capturing of the high ground of different conversations. And it's very easy for him to execute on because when you look at how, how LA is currently doing and the leadership in LA and potholes not being filled and rampant NGO abuse is probably the right phrase. It's so easy for someone just to come in with not all that radical ideas and say, hey, look around. How is your life going? Did you have to step over human excrement on the way to Starbucks? Like, are you afraid of getting your arm chopped off by someone with the machete? I posted yesterday, there's this. He's actually a pretty famous copywriter. His name is Craig Clemons. And he posted a video of his car got broken into in la. And if I'm remembering right, his car actually got stolen along with two baby seats in the back. And he called 911. They told him to go down to the police station and report it. He went down to the police station. The police station was closed. It was closed at 6pm, like bankers hours closed. And then they had a little note on the door that said, hey, you know, if it's an emergency, go ahead and, you know, tap the intercom, the blue intercom button. He goes over to the blue intercom. He had a video about this and he's like, the intercom doesn't work. And it's like at what point is it just perjury? Los Angeles? Like. Like it's so easy for someone like Pratt to just come in and say, hey, where I am, the decay will no longer be. And that's exactly what we're seeing. That's why he's surging. And that's why I still stand by my argument that on June 1, it will feel like he is running unopposed. The only thing I may have gotten wrong is I may have. It may not even be till June 1st. Maybe he feels. Maybe it feels like he's running unopposed right now.

[Erica]

Huh. Interesting. So somebody asked Marcel. I don't know. You know, California is wild with the ballot harvesting, right? So how do we know that this. I mean, we don't know. I mean, to me, I feel like this could be a huge problem.

[Marcella]

I mean, not to put you on

[Erica]

the spot about that, but anything about it. I was just thinking there's so much interference.

[Marcella]

Yeah, there is interference with ballot harvesting. There's a lot of, you know, legal immigrants in that area in certain areas of L. A. There's also very elderly people that are susceptible, and there's a lot of homeless people. As we saw that people are trying to register to vote and to vote. And there's mail in ballots. Like, you know, I'm not a believer in. In mail. Mail in ballots because I think there could be a lot of. It's more open to fraud. There's so many different ways of having the machine stay the machine, you know, So I. I would want to know what Spencer's doing to overcome those issues. I don't think. I don't even think anyone can overcome those issues at all. Besides having a lot of lawyers nearby and being able to do some kind of enforcement of the ballot boxes, you know, so I know that there's the mayor race, but then there's the government governor race as well. And for Steve Hilton, who is, you know, who is one of the candidates that may pass to the. To the final election, There was the Garden Grove thing where they moved 50, 000 people out of there. And a lot of people were saying, what about the ballot boxes? What. Who's taking care of those? And things like that. So it's. It. The politics in. In Los Angeles is not. Not easy to deal with. I used to work in the government and I know how. How treacherous it can be. Like, even as a regular employee, it's like, it's like, I can't even explain to you, but it's like Shakespeare. Like, there's always intrigue in The Castle, you know, there's all these talks and all that. So I think Spencer Pratt is doing a great job regardless, because he is taking on the machine. He is the David against the Goliath. And you know what? Win or not, and, and hopefully he wins. And you both are right. I think he still will be taking on the machine because once he becomes mayor, the machine is still there. The, the LA county supervisors are still leftists as can be, and socialist. And the way that the, the LAPD chief is running things, the way the sheriff, the district attorney is, is a lot better than before, but you're still going to be dealing with all of these obstacles beyond the regular obstacles you have, which is like crime and poverty and all sorts of things. So you know what? He is brave. He is amazing because no one in the past, maybe since 1997, has taken on the machine to this level. So I give him props for that.

[Erica]

Amen. Me too. So, Jeff, what do you know about the ballot harvesting and watching the ballot dropboxes? It's a huge problem for governor. I mean, God, la, listen, join hands, okay? You guys join hands mentally and then say to yourself, the universe owes me. Because it does. Because you people, you've been through enough. Okay? The universe owes you. Let's go. So go ahead, Jeff. Sorry.

[Jeff Callahan]

Yeah, and I'll be transparent. I don't know enough about that side of it. Now what I would say would be similar to like a Trump 2016. My hunch would be it's probably best for Spencer Pratt to go ahead and win June 2, because my sort of gut read on it is more time equals more potential for shenanigans. Right. I think it would be very interesting if Spencer Pratt connected with someone like, oh, gosh, I think his name is Cliff Maloney. He and Joshua Lysig just recently released the book Run. Right. And purely for get out the vote sort of stuff. And it sounds like, like, I have seen some Spencer Pratt posts where he's been talking about, like, go go around and collect ballots from your friends and all that stuff and drop them off. And like, so I think he, he is aware of that. He hasn't talked a whole lot about it publicly beyond just normal get out the boat stuff. I think it would be incredibly interesting if. I don't know what Trump could do necessarily, but if he was to, I don't know, send, send the appropriate personnel there just to watch, you know, sort of these, these dropboxes and stuff like that. I think that behavior changes once people are being observed and so if there could just be some sort of apparatus for increased perception of observation, that may be enough to change or at least put a chill on people doing certain things.

[Erica]

Laura Trump did that during the last. Trump. Yeah, yeah. And.

[Jeff Callahan]

And who. Who knows like that. That could have had. I think it's one of those things where we may not know for years or decades, but that may have had a gigantic impact. That was extremely quiet because when something goes right, you don't really notice anything. Right.

[Erica]

They had a bunch of attorneys watching. Yeah. I mean, Marcella, get all the attorney.

[Marcella]

No, there's actually attorneys are watching this election. I wanted to look up his name. He's very famous. He's in the. He. He's in the California Senate or he's a representative legislature in California. He's a Republican He. Carlos de Mayo. So Carlos de Mayo and other groups are actually going through the. Through the rules, the voter rules, and making sure that the person is an actual dead or. So he has different lawyers working together, not just for this election, but for the election of the governor, the governor election. And that's been a. Like, a point in California is that there's been a lot of decedents, a lot of people that are dead. That boat. And it's not good. You know, like, there's no way. And so they have sued before for those records, and they have Carl Demayo. Sorry, I. I listen to him all the time, and he is wonderful. He is one of the main leaders in California for Republicans and. Sorry, Carl.

[Erica]

No, that's great. I mean, that's great to know.

[Marcella]

So that's. That gives me hope. And talking about elections, we have Texas. I don't know if there's people in Texas here, but I don't.

[Erica]

Texas. Are you here? Drop yourselves in the chat.

[Marcella]

If you're from Texas and you're voting today, or if you're not from Texas and going to Texas to vote, don't tell us.

[Erica]

Yeah, or if you're in Texas and you're dead and you can vote today, it's for Ken Paxton and. Oh, my God. No, but who's running for ag. That. We were just saying Chip Roy. Chip Roy, dude. Bring it on. Give me some masculine energy. Let's go. I love that. So good luck to everybody there. Texas, I don't recognize you anymore. You got to get back to being the big badasses that you're supposed to be. Enough with this nonsense. I love that. You guys, we have sick. We're four minutes left. Andy. I beat you to my time. Nazism. So what do you, what. So Jeff, tell us what you have coming up now for like the winding down for Spencer. Like, how are you going to be covering him and helping him?

[Jeff Callahan]

Yeah, so I, I'm going to continue writing articles, continue giving analysis and I mean, he apparently pays attention to me, which is kind of a wild thing to say. Not that I'm all, all that important in the big scheme of things, but I, I will try to call attention to, to things that I think he could maybe do to sort of close the last. Gosh, it's all, it's, it's not, not

[Erica]

long now until the second suggest people watching the ballot boxes like Laura Trump did.

[Jeff Callahan]

Yeah. So that, you know, that would be a really good step in my opinion. And, and that, that could absolutely be something, something that I cover. I think it would be really interesting if, and I know he's shared some stuff about people going around and harvesting ballots from homeless people and anything he could do to call attention to the fact that this is going on where these people may not be eligible to vote in Los Angeles city election. I would like to see him just like be mayoral, call a press conference and say, you know, I want these records preserved because when I'm mayor, you know, we're going to be looking into a lot of this stuff. I think that there's some things he could do there just to call attention and call that observation, to watching those kinds of things.

[Erica]

Okay, Jay Plemons, you heard that? Make it a clip. We need, as Jeff said, Spencer, to call a press conference to say preserve all these records and documents because we want to know for real. For real. I love that. And I just want to shout out to, to Steve Hilton, you know, good luck. You are fighting a valiant fight. You're a decent, smart, California, America loving man. And the, the country, and the country of California would be lucky to have you because it's really turned into a whack country. All right, so, Marcella, we're, we're rooting for you, girl. We're rooting for you over there in California. We love you. You guys, let me just do a quick little housekeeping here. Tomorrow Dr. Drew is in the house. We're gonna call for the doctor, so be sure to tell your friends. Invite a friend over to see Dr. Drew. And I don't know what we're going to discuss. We'll see how it goes. Probably let him riff raff around with us. And then we have on Friday, BJ will be back with us. You guys are missing bj he'll be here Friday for fun. Friday. What else do we want to say? Oh, so many good things coming up. Oh, if I was just prepared, I could tease you. Oh, I think I can do it. No, my computer's gonna freeze. I'll give you a little tease on Thursday. Just remind me for the tease on Thursday. Okay, you guys? So, Jeff, Marcella, any closing comments for everybody? Marcella, you go first.

[Marcella]

Just. I just wanted to wish my nephew a happy birthday.

[Erica]

Happy birthday. What's his name? Felipe. Felipe. Felice Navidad. I think I'm 15 today. Felice Camplianos. Was that better?

[Marcella]

Yeah. Not Felicia. He does Merry Christmas, but he'll take it, you know.

[Erica]

Hey, why not?

[Marcella]

Probably very embarrassed.

[Erica]

Oh, don't be embarrassed

[Marcella]

today.

[Erica]

So. Oh, my gosh. And then, Jeff, any closing arguments? Arguments?

[Jeff Callahan]

You know, I'll. I'll leave. I'll leave the legal arguments to Marcella.

[Erica]

I'll.

[Jeff Callahan]

I'll just say it's been fun hanging out with you guys today, and we always. We always talk about some interesting things, and everyone should go enjoy. Enjoy their Tuesday.

[Erica]

We love that. You could. Come on. I asked Jeff so last minute, when I knew that Owen had to bail out, I'm like, hey, Jeff. He's like, sure thing. I love that. So listen, you guys, I want to say, because I think I cut myself off yesterday. Mindy. Yesterday was my girlfriend Mindy's birthday. Love you, sister. I hope you had a great time on your trip. I'll talk to you later today. And also, I have another dear, dear Gemini friend. I love you Geminis whose birthday is today. And I just want to shout out to you, happy, happy birthday. You are the best. Okay. All right, you guys, we want to thank Shelley and Scott, as always, for allowing this show to go on. And you guys get out there, be useful, mentor, teach, Be kind. Lead with kindness and love. I know that sounds really weird coming for me today, but I had a situation yesterday, and I was reminded to lead with kindness and love. And you guys do the same. And Scott, we miss you. We love you. And a closing sip to Scott, you guys. To Scott.

[Jeff Callahan]

Scott.

[Erica]

Bye, y'. All. I wonder if I can just keep Locals on. Let me see if I can do it, you guys. Let me see if I can just. And oops. Let's see if I can stop X. If I could stop YouTube. And let me see Rumble. I hate to be rude, but I am going to try. Okay, let me see. Hi, locals. We're still with Rumble, which is fine. I just wanted to see if we could work that out. But I just wanted to say hello to you guys for a minute. Isn't Jeff great? He's good stuff. Oh, thank you, Ted. That's so nice. Hi. Hello. Goldie Kim Luddite. So I don't know for sure how to end the the rumble, but if I can, I will. Otherwise, we're here. We're happy. I just wanted to say hi to you guys. Are you excited for Dr. Drew tomorrow? He'll be fun. He's so, so, so nice. Let's tour my office. Don't you wonder, like, whenever you see someone on camera, you're like, what does everything else look like? I'm always like that. Yeah, he's great, right? And yep, yep. I'm just here with locals in Rumble right now. Let me see. Scott might. Oh, let me see. Let me look here. Oh, Stella is like, don't stay on with the. The locals, people, please come feed me more. Yeah. So, Dr. Von Hardy, I need a picture of Stella just that says Stella because she is so chatty today. Holy cow. Holy cow. Holy cow. Let's see. I don't answer too, too many personal questions, just so you guys know. Okay, let's see here. You can hear Stella. Yeah. She's like, do you mind? So funny. Yeah, it'll be so fun tomorrow. Dr. Drew, extra coffee. Get awake sooner. We're not private. I wanted to be private, but I cannot from here. Turn off Rumble. But we're. We're just Rumble and locals, so. Yeah. Holy cat. I am wearing pants. I'm wearing pants. You can't hear Stella. Aw, you love it. Crank. That's so funny. Well, Randy, you know, people have to make a living. And his living is. Oh, thank you, Mello. His living is on camera, so. Oh, the birthday boy. Yeah, maybe I need one of me screaming, Stella. Holy canole. Your cats would love Stella. Oh, my gosh, she is so cranky right now. You didn't. SJV's all up in here flavor. He's right above you. Look. See him? Scroll up. Haha. The pants question. I know. It was funny because before the show started, I forgot to turn on my light. So I said to Owen, it was just the two of us backstage. I'm like, oh, I forgot to turn on my light. And then instinctively, I just turned off the camera part, and I ran over and turned it on, and I came back and I'm like, why did I just turn off the camera? He's like, I assumed you were, you know, naked or something. And I'm like. And I stood up and I'm like, no, I got pants on. Look, you guys, look. They're. They're green. I look like a watermelon today. They're like, just flowy cotton green pants. Let me see. Oh, Chuck, there's your friend Jared. She was acquitted of knifing the vagrant to death in 1997. Oh, God, Andy, I love how I had, like. Is it just the New Jersey Italian thing that just gives me this mafia tie, which I'm kind of obsessed with? I'd watch you in MSM mainstream media. Stella, come here. At least. Come here. Yes, I. You guys, I love, like, flowy. Like, I. I don't think the words harem pants, but just, like, flowy, loose pants. So nice. I'm not the pantsless wonder. That was someone else. I mean, sjv, we don't want to know what you're doing over there. Oh, the pink and green, right? I know. I'm very preppy. Preppy handbook right now with the pink and green. It was good. Stella would love your bird. Bella. Bella and Stella. Stella would love your bird. George. Well, it's funny. You guys know I have a cat named George also. He's just chilling, and I worry about him because Stella's getting older and older and sicker and sicker, and I'm like, oh, no. What's gonna happen? Andy Wang is the gift that keeps on giving. I have to tell you. Yeah, like hammer time pants. Yep. Like, that. Don't hurt him. Who? Preppy versus burnout. Yes. Aina, everybody. Everything I'm wearing right now is free people. That is true. I am a free people girl. Oh, thanks, Kimberly. Oh, look at you. That's. That's the price of thrifting, I'm telling you. Yes. So Free People is a clothing brand, and pretty much every day, that's what I'm wearing. Free people. Free people movement. Sjv. Burn it. Burn it down. Oh, my God. Sjv, burn it, please. My brain. Stella. Oh, the dupes are good, right? Oh, my gosh. Flavor. Look at that. You guys, there's a compliment for all of you. She said I connected you guys with the best people she ever knew. That's all of you. Oh, Wild fable. Yeah. Cotton. Cotton's where it's at. I'm with you. It's cotton season. Stella. Oh, my God, she's so cute. Come here. Come say hi. Your wardrobe is sponsored by Vineyard Vines. I love that. Nothing wrong with Vineyard Vines. A flavor. You're the best. Lemon minty. Look at you. Move to la. You guys are the best group ever. I swear. Hi, T. Cotton season is all year. You're right. Yeah. Sjv. You're not. You're not. You're just not. You're not. Okay. Cotton is the best. Yes. I mean, I love how we can all, like, come together on cotton. What a great thing. Linen. See, I'm not a linen girl. I'm not a linen girl. I think it hurts. Oh, my gosh, look at the babies. I think linen hurts. And the wrinkles are brutal. Oh, you guys are so sweet. Oh, my gosh. And Andy, this is why I said lead with love today, because I did not know it was the anniversary. And I was on the phone with my oldest friend, meaning longest oldest from second grade. I don't know. Like, I lost my yesterday with her on the phone, which I never do, and I don't talk to her that often, but it was just. I was in no mood. You. Have you ever just been in no mood? And then she said something about how, you know, he was murdered by the cop. And I'm like, he actually died from a fentanyl overdose. And she's like, oh, is that what you think? You need to get educated? Which just, like, triggered me to use the kids words. I was like, she's like, she doesn't know about the podcast or my life over here, but she's like, you need to get educated if that's what you think. And, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, oh, my God, I can't. I can't. Like, I can't. And I kind of just like, lost my. And I was just like, you know, and then we had a little come to Jesus moment, And after about 10 minutes of me, like, out of my mind, I was like, why am I so reactive to her? But I realized it was, like, a buildup of stuff, and probably because she was like, my oldest friend. She's like a sister, like family. So it was like, maybe I can get away with this with her. But then in the moment, I'm like, why am I doing this? And I love her, and it doesn't matter. And we know that our. What our differences are. So I just was like, I'm really, really sorry. I don't know why I freaked out like that. And I was just like, we have to just let it go and agree to disagree about certain things. And she's like, I'm just saying, like, you know, I. You know what she cares about and whatever. So she, you know, she fully believes the narrative of the left. Which is fine. What else is she going to believe, right? She's. That's. That's it. So we both, you know, and then she's like, well, I don't know why you're being racist. And then that's another thing that she had said. And I'm like, oh, my God, my head's gonna explode. And, you know, she's like, maybe this. And I was like, oh, my God. I was like, today on the podcast, we were just talking about how we can help specifically disadvantaged black kids who might need mentoring. And now, like, my friend's like, maybe that's why you're racist. Because I thought George Floyd or I know that he didn't die by Chauvin. So anyway, this is way too much detail. So it just turned into like this whole thing. And I was like, I'm like in a fever dream right now that I can't get out of. And I was just like, too worked up. But by the end, well, by the end, just FYI, it was a 6 hour and 20 minute phone call. Only the first hat. I can't cut her off. She's my oldest, dearest friend and she really has a good heart. She's just. She thinks she's coming from a righteous place. And at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. But we were on the phone for six hours and 20 minutes. Let me just tell you, I had no time for that, but I had to make the time for that. And the half hour in the beginning was the only part about that whole back and forth stuff. And of course, in the middle of us, like, yelling, I like, knocked over my water bottle. The lid wasn't on it. And like, I just refilled it with like, my yerba mate mate and all this stuff, and it like flew everywhere. And I'm like, I'm gonna freak out. You ever have that day? So anyway, we then we went through a range of topics. They were all like, interesting and fun and funny and, you know, so. Yeah. And like, she even said too. She's like, I would never put up with a conversation like this with somebody if we didn't have that love already. I'm like, same, same. Oh, I told her too. So recently someone accused me of having Trump derangement syndrome, which is hysterical, as she's like, what's tds? And I'm like, what? And she called me a Karen. I'm like, I'm a Karen. And you don't know what TDS is. I'm so. I'm so in another planet. I don't know what's happening, but, yes, that was a length. So. So she's. She is my friend since second grade, and I only talk to her now. She lives elsewhere, and she's had quite a different lifestyle herself. And it. You'd be thinking it was interesting. But she. We only see each other maybe a couple of times a year, and we have a phone call that long, maybe, like, once every two years. So I feel like, you know, we caught up. We caught up, and maybe it. Maybe it needed to be released because every time I think of her, I go to, like, all the. The awful stuff, the AWFL stuff. And so now we've reached an understanding. So, yeah, Halsey. Like that. So it's like, you know, she's not my smartest liberal friend, but she is my most liberal liberal friend, so it's interesting. Yeah, Maga. I'm like, yeah, but how does she not know what TDS is? I mean, she says she doesn't watch the news or watch tv, which I fully believe, but I'm like, you've never heard of tds? And how could someone say I have? TDS was so funny? I'm like, why? Because I don't agree with something, okay? Ain't nobody got time for that. You're estranged from your friends like that. You know what? That's okay, too. Like, I was saying that on Owen's Private Spaces on Sunday that sometimes it's okay to just, you know, just be like, all right, this is where we part ways. No hard feelings. But I, you know, I feel like if you spend time with someone or you have to keep seeing someone who completely agitates you, it's not. It's maybe not worth it, right? But, like, one of my absolute best friends is a liberal. We have never spoke about politics. She used to work for me, and now we're besties at. Oh, thanks, Barb. And now we've been besties forever and ever. Like, to the point where if something happened to her and her husband, like, they've asked me to take care of their daughter, you know, so. But we don't talk about politics. Never have, never will. It just doesn't matter. Our friendship's not based around anything like that, and that's great, and that's fine. And it doesn't bother me that she's a Democrat because it has nothing to do with my life, you know, so it's all good. Hey, Craig, I have pictures, too, like, that I got to show you guys one day. But, you know, but if people are trying to, like, push it on me or they're just like, you know, hateful all the time, then I'm like, ah, life's too short. Everyone's left in academia. Yeah, that's tough. And that's not good either. Yeah, so see, Holly, sometimes you just. It's a matter matter of, like, self preservation. Like, sometimes it's just like, ugh, you know, like, why am I doing this? You don't have to. Yeah. Owen and his wife are political opposites. I think nowadays it would be harder to. I think back back in the day, it didn't matter what people's politics were, but now it's become like Mets versus Yankees. If you understand that, you know, it's like a whole team sport. And I'm like, I don't co sign on any team. I. I'd recommend that to people. Don't co sign on a team. Like, it's like, okay, I might like the Yankees, but maybe I don't like all the players they bring on. Like, that's okay. Like, you don't have to love everything about it. So that's why I just. I don't like to label myself one way or the other other than like a free thinker and somebody who changes their mind. Often I change my mind a lot depending on the information I'm given, so. And it's fine. Good morning, local weed. How are you? Yeah, kids shouldn't be. I didn't know my parents. Politics ever. It wasn't a thing. And also, you're not supposed to know people's politics, religion, and financial stuff. Right? But now it's like, let's brag about financial stuff and let's put everything we do on Instagram just to show how fabulous our lives are. It's so weird. I think Marcela does. If Andy's here, he knows. I think it's some kind of like a state law, perhaps. Yes, that. That's okay if you have to. Yep. Let me see your mom, Holsey. Oh, thank you. Oh, my God. You could listen to me for six hours. That's amazing. What? Oh, yeah. All right. You had to bring up the red socks, didn't you? See a little button pusher? Estates and planning. Thanks, Andy. I don't really find politics entertaining. Sjv. You know why? Because most people are super uninformed. So your mom had a Nixon sticker on your push car. Oh, my God. Your mom was like, come for me. Go ahead, people. That is so funny. Zanvil, Are you in massage in Boston? A. I love old people. Oh, really? You don't think they voted? It's true. And by the way, like, back in the day, it didn't matter if you were a Democrat. Like, everybody was still America first and one of the best for the country. And the parties were, you know, work together. And then I don't know where it took a left turn. Maybe when they. Oh, my opinion, when they killed Kennedy. I don't know. Red Sox are your team. Your uncle was the chaplain for them. And the Celtics. That's amazing. Openly Republican. Oh, so, Kim, I had an experience like that, too, when I was in. I want to say. I don't know. I don't know what year it was, but I'm trying to think who was running. Oh, okay. So Carter was running against Ford. Is that a thing? I was so little, and I think the teachers, those nosy bees, wanted to know, like, which families were Republican or Democrat. Like, looking back on it as an adult, because I remember the moment, and they were like, everyone, put your heads down. Like, you remember, they'd be like, put your head down on your desk. And then they'd be like, if you would vote for Ford, raise your hand. If you would vote for Carter, raise your hand. And so they were like, you know, Ford is our president now. And then Carter wants to be president, like, however they framed it. Okay, so I didn't know Ford from Carter, but what my little brain heard was, this guy is already the president, and now this guy wants to be the president. And I was like, oh, well, let the other guy try it. So, like, I raised my hand for Carter, but I'm telling you, I bet those teachers were like, yep, now we know who's who. And to me, I was like, oh, we'll give the other guy a chance. See, that's the Libra in Mayfair is fair. But I, you know, then, like, thinking back about it years later, I'm like, what a weird thing. Perot is your first vote. Love it. Screw quarter. Oh, my gosh. Isn't that so weird? Teachers even talking about this to kids? Like, just stop already. I am. I wish I could get Mike row on here. I just so you know, I can't. I love when you guys are like, hey, I always say this, you know, hey, he'd be a great guest. Or this one. And I'm like, yes, I know, in a perfect world. But, you know, maybe one day I'll ask anybody if I can get to them, but. But I love Mike Rose philosophy of just learn a trade, get out there. Start working. Forget having the college debt and coming out and competing with no life experience, no work experience with everybody else coming out of the colleges and you know, and you're expecting a company to be like, oh, we're in a really big hurry to hire that brand new graduate with no experience to come into our company. It just doesn't happen. But I know he was a singer. Bush was your first vote. Yeah, I will definitely ask Michael again. Not yet, but I will. I love Michael. He'll send me the most random texts and it just is so funny. He is a funny one. Oh, he. I know. Did you guys ever see his micro's Facebook account? His mom would write letters to him and he would read them on air. And he has such a contagious laugh. Oh my God, I'd be crying listening to him. And how entertained he was by his parents. I'm sure still is.

[Marcella]

I don't know.

[Erica]

I don't know if they're both still alive. I think his mom is for sure. Well, Sean, boo, No one else is crazy enough to hire you. Come on. Can't have any pudding. Same with Adam Corolla. I just don't think so. Yeah, but you know what? Sjv, like Zubie and I can message each other. I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. Yeah, people don't easily change our political party, but you. You see it a lot now. I mean, Trump got a lot of people to leave the Republican Party. They didn't even know why. And the Democrats are returning a lot of people and creating new Republicans. It's. It's an interesting time. Oh, lemon minty. You have a great time, Randy. Bye for now. I don't think so. Lying about Dave Rubin. Be a potato, not a Picasso. Listen, he would be great sjv, but there's just things. There's just things that. It doesn't matter. He. He would be great. And I'm not saying never, but not right now. Not right now. Pick that poop up like it's. It's your business. Let me see. Gerald Ford. You knew they were Republican. You need to find a job. Good luck. Go find it. Office move tomorrow. You won't be here. Yeah, Dave Rubin's on right after this on Locals. You can go right over to him from there. Oh my gosh, that is so funny. Oh, you have a man crush on Walter. I don't know, actually, I was just wondering where he was. We've got to message him. Oh, I love that you love Michael Malice. He is so brilliant, you guys. That. That man, he is so brilliant. He's so witty and sharp. It's painful. But he's also so normal. But you have to kind of have your own wit and understand to get him. Oh, I'm not secretive. I just. It's just not an appropriate time to ask him at this point. And I never say never. But also, they'll be like. They'll be the right time. So I. I love him. Believe me. I've been listening to him my whole life. I love him. But we will. You go, girl. Oh. Lymphatic drainage massage for the win. Chase Hughes. Malice is from normal. Far from normal. I love him. Bdh, right? Mm. You guys are so cute. Stella. I'm coming. She's like, oh, lady. Every day, a little Dogbert looking dog. How cute. Don't you want to get a dog and name him Dogbert? Did someone say Walter? Yes, that's right. All right, guys. So I'm gonna cruise and nome to get mo. Yeah. Oh, Goldie, I love hanging with all of you guys. Here's stella. It's stella o'. Clock. Damp cave it. Hope that. Oh, I know. That's gotta feel the best. I would love to have one Montreal. Thank you. Thanks, you guys. So we'll see you in the morning. Yeah. You need a dog. Bird. You guys have the best day. Okay. Do something that makes you happy. Chow tree. Bolay. Bouvier. Bouvier. You too, Marge. We finally have sun. I have a rental car. Not a rental. A loaner car right now. And it's a convertible. And I'm gonna go drive the $30 of gas I put in it. Vivek. You guys are so cute. I love it. I'm taking. Listen, when I see the names, I promise they stay in my head. I promise. I promise. Bye, guys. Later, skaters.

[Marco Rubio]

It.