The Scott Adams School - 06/30/26 IRAN, ISLAM and More

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Real Coffee with Scott Adams

Episode: The Scott Adams School – IRAN, ISLAM and More
Date: June 30, 2026
Host: Erica (guest hosting for Scott Adams), with Owen and BJ
Special Features: Clips from Dave Portnoy, Charlie Kirk, and various news segments

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the current political and social climate in North America and Europe through the lens of “persuasion” — a Scott Adams hallmark. Topics include the influence of Islam and socialism in the West, political frustrations, law enforcement changes, border issues, and the philosophical foundations of western democracies.

The tone is urgent, impassioned, and sometimes emotional, reflecting a sense of crisis and the need for bold action. The show features frequent audience interaction and brings in notable voices (Dave Portnoy, Charlie Kirk) to illustrate key arguments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Leadership Fatigue and Political Frustration (06:48–16:24)

• Dave Portnoy’s Clip (06:48–08:46):
  Reflects a growing trend of accomplished private citizens feeling compelled to enter politics due to widespread frustration with current leadership and the political process.

  • Quote:

    “Depending on what day you catch on. Me in Nantucket, when I roll out of bed, I have a nice ocean view and it’s like, why do I want to ruin my life and get involved in this mess?...I feel like it’s my duty.”
    —Dave Portnoy (06:48–07:54)

  • Portnoy notes that political office, despite his success, would probably “ruin his life” due to entrenched party machinery and media scrutiny.

• Panel’s Reaction (08:46–16:51):

  • Erica, Owen, and BJ discuss the merits and pitfalls of billionaires or competent outsiders entering public office, suggesting their independence from special interests but acknowledging downsides (media attacks, system resistance).
  • BJ notes the influence of “foreign money” and “terrorist organizations” in local US politics; fundraising and independence as key.
  • Owen: “Being a billionaire gives them another advantage, which is they’re not as easily purchased.” (13:19)

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2. The Challenge from Islamism and Policy in Canada (17:06–22:25)

• Canada's Federal Approach to Islamophobia (17:06–17:50):

  • Discussion of a government program allocating millions to combat Islamophobia, mainly by funding security for mosques and Islamic schools.
  • Erica frames this as “$40 million to combat Islamophobia,” suggesting funds are misallocated and sometimes routed to questionable foreign entities.

• BJ’s Take (17:58–22:25):

  • He claims some funding is funneled abroad, indirectly supporting terrorism (e.g., killings of Christians in Nigeria).
  • Quote:

    “The terrorist is not just the trigger puller, they’re the funders, the ones who enter politics, the ones who use lawfare.” (17:58)

  • The panel argues that speaking out is essential, otherwise Western nations risk becoming Islamic republics akin to France or the UK.

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3. Law Enforcement: Infiltration, DEI, and System Design (27:05–36:42)

• Dearborn, MI Police Chief Clip (27:05–27:59):

  • The chief celebrates a police force that is now 45% Arab American, touting diversity, and allowing hijabs in the justice system.
  • Quote:

    “It’s now a department that reflects and embraces the community it serves… One that serves all of Dearborn.” —Chief (27:05)

  • Erica and panel are deeply skeptical: see it as DEI replacing merit and a lever for ideological takeover.

• Panel Discussion (28:04–36:42):

  • BJ explains that political “community police services boards” hire chiefs, leading to politicization and loss of traditional law enforcement methods (“carding,” intelligence gathering).
  • The inability to enforce basic law undermines order, and the result is “forget it and drive on” culture in policing.
  • Quote:

    “The system is designed for the outcomes we have.” —BJ, paraphrasing Scott Adams (35:31)

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4. Law, Borders, and Western Identity (47:44–54:23)

• Supreme Court Ruling on Birthright Citizenship (47:44–51:07):
  • Owen summarizes a Supreme Court decision upholding automatic citizenship for children born in the US, regardless of parents’ legal status, fueling concerns about “anchor babies” and demographic shifts.
  • Quote:

    “...They could end up, we could end up with foreign countries deciding who our president is.” —Owen (51:07)

  • BJ links to a Red Pilled America podcast documenting the history of this principle and the communist involvement in its legal defense.

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5. Western Civilizational Roots and the Importance of Values (37:47–46:46)

• Charlie Kirk Clip (37:47–41:05):

  • Lays out the historic Christian underpinnings of US law and government, arguing that American freedoms are built on Christian principles.
  • Quote:

    “Constitution was only written for a moral religious people. It was wholly inadequate for any other.” —Charlie Kirk quoting John Adams (approx. 39:30)

  • The panel reacts strongly in agreement, arguing Christianity (or at least its values) is essential for democracy’s viability.

• Secularism, Unity, and Faith (41:05–46:46):

  • The group discusses the need for unity between secular and believing Americans around shared values, pushing back on anti-religious sentiment as counterproductive.
  • Quote:

    “If you understand what somebody's philosophy is and their filter of the world, then you can see it's not race that's motivating. It's how they think. It's their operating system.” —BJ (36:42)

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6. Immigration: Nuance and Worry (55:06–59:14)

• Immigrants’ Motivation and the Islamist Shift:

  • BJ distinguishes earlier waves of Latino immigrants (wanting to assimilate) from newer phenomena, including increased entry by people with Islamist and Marxist motivations, often facilitated through NGOs.
  • Erica pushes back, expressing that the overwhelming volume now includes many who refuse to assimilate and who exploit the system, changing her own perspective due to recent trends.

• Policy Solutions:

  • Disagreement over how many immigrants are intent on subversion, but consensus on the need for better border enforcement and screening.

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7. Reflection on Agency and Freedom (61:52–66:24)

• Akira the Dawn “Do Something” Segment (61:52–66:24):
  • An inspirational audio montage encourages listeners to take action (“Do something!”), citing freedom’s risks and necessity for engagement.
  • Quote:

    “Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose... You’re free. Do something.” —Beverly (61:52+)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “You don’t get to be a billionaire, typically by being stupid. So, do I want a billionaire to step up or do I want another Mandami to step up? I mean, probably the billionaire.” —Erica (12:40)
• “The biggest weapon [the Communists] can build is reciprocal violence... all we need is actual enforcement.” —BJ (53:23)
• “One of the reasons we’re living through a constitutional crisis is that we no longer have a Christian nation, but we have a Christian form of government, and they’re incompatible.” —Charlie Kirk (40:32)
• “I think it was a concerted attack and an arrogant one... to say, oh, you know, if you believe in God, then you’re stupid.” —Owen (44:05)
• “...We are in the 11th hour for Western civilization. And the enemy will not stop. They will not stop ever. There’s no negotiating with them because they’re religious fanatics.” —BJ (53:43)
• “We need Americans that are not communists. That’s the problem.” —BJ (36:42)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Dave Portnoy on Political Duty: 06:48–08:46
• Debate Over Outsider Candidates/Billionaires: 08:46–16:51
• Canada: Islamophobia Funding & Foreign Influence: 17:06–22:25
• Dearborn Police Chief & Community Policing: 27:05–29:59
• Law Enforcement Structure Critiques: 29:59–36:42
• Charlie Kirk on Christian Foundation of US Government: 37:47–41:05
• Supreme Court Birthright Citizenship Case: 47:44–51:07
• Closing ‘Do Something’ Motivation: 61:52–66:24

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

• Urgency & Alarm: The hosts stress that Western civilization is facing existential threats from both external (foreign influence, Islamism) and internal (socialism, weak leadership) forces.
• Cultural & Philosophical Roots: Emphasis on the need to return to core values, whether religiously based or secular but grounded in Western tradition.
• Systemic Critique: Focus on “system design,” politicization of institutions, and lack of enforcement as central problems.
• Engagement: Recurrent call for listeners to take action—politically, socially, and personally.

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Conclusion

This episode channels Scott Adams’ “persuasion filter” to frame an impassioned critique of current Western political, social, and cultural trends. The panel highlights the need for authentic leadership, the dangers of infiltration and ideological subversion, the challenges of immigration, and a plea for values-based unity and action. Listeners are left with both a sense of impending crisis and a charged call to “do something” in defense of Western civilization.

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Transcript

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[BJ]

Buenos dias. Good morning, everybody.

[Erica]

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[Owen]

We asked him to wear Marcela's dress, but he said no.

[Erica]

We did try. He's like, excuse me.

[BJ]

Yeah, that's never gonna happen.

[Erica]

Marcella had to leave last minute. She's got a court situation, and we wish her good luck. Not that she'll need it. Okay, there. Joined in with the group. There's everybody. Look at you guys. You guys. June 30th. What the heck? I never learned that poem about how many days of the month are in each month. So I don't know if we have 31 or 30. 30 in July. 30.

[Owen]

Did you. Did you ever learn the knuckle trick for that?

[BJ]

Yeah, that's the easiest one.

[Erica]

No, show me, Owen.

[Owen]

Well, you can start with. You can start with January on an. On a knuckle. And it has 31 days, right? January has 31 days, and the knuckles have 31 days. And if you just count across, it actually works.

[BJ]

So the space in between the knuckles is your month with less than 31 days. So you have January, February, March, April, May. You do that all the way through?

[Erica]

No, that one, I mean. All right, all right. I'm speechless. Okay.

[BJ]

I wonder if it's related. It's similar to why we have 60 seconds in a minute and 300. Do you know why we have 60 seconds in a minute?

[Erica]

Tell me.

[BJ]

Because the way the Sumerians used to count, they had a 60 base number system. So they didn't have 10 numbers, they had 60 numbers. And the way they would count them, Instead of going, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. What they would do. And I've seen a lot of people in Mexico do this. I guess it's a carryover. They would go, one. They would count all the pads on each finger. They go, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, and you multiply that times five, you get 60. That's why everything we do around time is based around 60, because it's a throwback to them.

[Erica]

Where's my mathematicians out there that are just like, okay, all right, I gotta get to the sip, because math makes me sweat, and so does perimenopause, but that's beside the point. All right, you guys, we gotta do it. Let's go.

[Beverly]

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[Erica]

Okay, well, you guys humor me. I'm deleting that one because that one played yesterday. Every day I delete it, it comes back. Can we do.

[Owen]

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[Erica]

That's right. But can we do one more sip? Because I can't take it. Let's just double up today because we have a lot to get to, so. So one more sip. Here we go.

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[Doug]

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[Erica]

Thanks, Beverly, for doing the unparalleled pleasure twice. And note to self, no more corona virus sips. I Gotta say, send that to Jay. I think we're over it because that, that pandemic lasted way too long for these sips. So thank you, you guys. My name is Erica. You are at the Scott Adams School. I'm joined today, of course with Owen and with bj. So we have a great show for you. Thank you for the double sip and bj. Canada. We got. We got to talk about Canada. We got to talk about. Listen, I honestly tried to get away from talking about Islam today, but I swear, I swear, I swear I did, but it's so on fire now. Everybody has finally caught up. So it's so strange because I used to just always be talking about like, listen, you guys, slow moving disaster. This is a problem. It's coming, it's coming. And now all the news stories are about socialism, communism, Islam. We have problems. So I did try to get away from it. So we have some of that, some of, some of Iran. And I definitely want to do Iran first so we can get that out of the way and see what's going on. But first, can you imagine? I can a mayor. Dave Portnoy from Barstool Sports. He was on with Jesse last night and he can't take it anymore either. I think Gen X is going to have to step in here. Let's see what he said.

[Dave Portnoy]

So I've always thought I would never get involved in politics. I think you can do more in the private sector than this. And what is going on has actually made me pause that thought. I was saying to you that old Plato quote, you know, if you don't do your public service and run for office, you're doomed to be run by basically dummies. And right now I feel like that's what's happening now. Not everyone's getting out to vote. I think what the Democrats have done is they've let the fox into the hen house and now he's just running rampant and kicking them all out. So it's a scary time. We need leaders to step up. Depending on what day you catch on. Me in Nantucket, when I roll out of bed, I have a nice ocean view and it's like, why do I want to ruin my life and get involved in this mess? Because I know what comes with it. But sometimes I do feel like it's my duty. I can't turn away. I feel like I could make a change. Maybe I do run in politics, so I don't know. It depends on the day you catch me. But let me say this. I spend a lot of my Day losing my mind on what's happening right now, especially in New York.

[BJ]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

I mean, you got the Nazi in Maine. This really, really, really worries me.

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[Dave Portnoy]

I would love to run against. If I was going to run, it would be here. Can I win here? I have no idea. I don't know the demographics, whether they get enough votes. There's a lot of people who like me in New York City. I know that I've done a lot of good in New York City when I wasn't thinking about politics, whether it's the barstool, fun, pizza places. So it wasn't for show. I've had a real job. I've done real things, unlike these clown politicians who have never had a job and never been in the real world for a day. But the people voting for these people just won are like these young, white, Ivy League, ish, elitish women. It's like, who are they? They'll never vote for me. They'll never believe in common sense.

[Erica]

Yeah. I mean, I feel that in my soul. Could he win? I don't know. But Dave Portnoy, you guys, he. He's the owner, founder of Barstool Sports. He's a bajillionaire, and he does live a really, really great life. And, you know, it's. It's frustrating. And so here's someone also, like Donald Trump, who is living a great, great life. And I think that certain people who have these kind of, like, leadership skills and know how to do things, they get so frustrated that they're like, oh, my God, I. I'll give up my beautiful private life to help save the country. I love Owen. What do you think? Could we have a Dave Portnoy as a mayor?

[Owen]

Sure. Let's go.

[BJ]

Love to see it.

[Owen]

I don't. I don't know if he'd get elected, but, you know, I'd love to see the race. It'd be a fun race.

[Erica]

I mean, you can totally dig the frustration, right? Oh, yeah.

[Owen]

I mean, I think it is getting bad. I posted some stories today about the whole DSA takeover of the Democratic Party and how it's kind of ruining it. And a lot of people are bending the knee and saying, oh, we have this big tent now, and they're trying to just embrace it. And it's, number one, kind of sad. But number two, I don't think it's going to end well for them. I think all these establishment politicians are doing the normal virtue signaling thing, like, don't take me out. I'M your friend. And they don't seem to realize that they're all going to get taken out if they let it continue. That the DSA isn't interested in negotiating with people. They're not interested in saying, oh, we're going to work with these people. No, they're just going to keep primaring people and keep putting their people in place. And they want to take over the Democratic Party. And that's what they're really trying to do right now. And if I were advising these establishment Democrats, which I would never do, but you know, if I was, I would say, you need to stand up to him now, you need to stop them now. You need to push him out similar to how the Republicans, you know, got rid of the Tea Party. Like, you need to dismantle that somehow, otherwise it's going to take over your party and you're not going to have it anymore.

[Erica]

What, what do you so bj I mean, it might not be Dave Portnoy, but I think that Dave Portnoy is just like an example of many, many people who know how to get shit done, how they're feeling too, watching their country slip away. What do you think about not ne, I mean, Dave, but like people feeling this way?

[BJ]

Well, I think Dave's great. The problem is he said, he said something that's very important that, you know, he passed over is getting involved in politics, you know, would ruin my life. It totally does. As somebody's got involved in politics, you realize how the world really works and how the gears of the machine work. It's all about money. That's all it is. And, but his ability to fundraise would probably be quite significant. Could he out fundraise the terrorist organizations that are behind Mamdani? And by the way, I don't say that hyperbolically because I was involved in lawsuits where we were law fared by the same terrorist organizations that are behind Mamdani. So it's very serious. This is all foreign money. But between him, Trump likes everybody who's a winner, doesn't care if people are Democrat or Democrat leaning, let's say traditional Democrat. He's open to anybody who's on the same team. And I think that would be an excellent candidate for New York. Will he win? I think he's, if he gets the fundraising right and he plays nice with the right aspects of the establishment that he needs to, then yeah, he probably has a chance because people are freaking out in New York right now. It's like finally people got the memo of what many of us have been screaming about for the past 15 years that, yeah, we got a problem. And so, yeah, I think it'd be great.

[Erica]

Uphill gardener. I see your comment on YouTube, like, why do we want billionaires running everything? It's not that we want billionaires running everything, but billionaires tend to be people who know how to run things, how to achieve, how to solve problems, and. And then they also have the networks of the people that know how to do the things that need to be done. So you don't get to be a billionaire, typically by being stupid. So, you know, do I want a billionaire to step up or do I want another mandami to step up? I mean, probably the billionaire. Someone who likes capitalism would be great.

[Owen]

I would add that being a billionaire gives them another advantage, which is they're not as easily purchased.

[Erica]

Right.

[Owen]

You know, a lot of these politicians that go in with no net worth and no significant things, and then suddenly they're multimillionaires, that came from somebody taking control of those people, and they have control over those people. And I think that's one of the reasons why Donald Trump was probably the only president in my lifetime, at least, that hasn't been controlled by the party or controlled by whatever interests are behind the party, because he had his own money and he didn't care, and he wasn't doing it for the money. And almost everyone else had to listen to those people and depend on at least the fundraising. But in many cases it's more than that. And they're essentially beholden to whoever allowed them to get that money.

[BJ]

I think the way to frame it, too, is do you want an entrepreneurial, free market billionaire, or do you want a champagne socialist with foreign money behind him? Because, yeah, he may not be a billionaire, but the entire infrastructure around him. Yes, Mamdani, is tens of billions of dollars, which is. And that money is specifically to destroy the United States from the inside.

[Erica]

That's right. It's so true. Um, you know, and some people say, like, oh, I don't, you know, on YouTube, I don't know if he's a good guy. Does it matter, like, if you think he'd be like, an acceptable boyfriend or husband or what? It. It doesn't. It doesn't matter. Like, you don't, like, if he's in gambling or. Listen, he knows how to get stuff done. You know, Did. Do people think Trump's a good guy? No. Did you think Biden was? No. Did you think Clinton was. No. So, like, let's get realistic. It's going to take somebody. It really does come down to what you said, bj. It's either going to take someone with foreign money who wants to destroy our country, or it's going to take someone that maybe you don't love their Persona or who they are, but they have money and they love the country and they're not taking money from anyone else and they're going to do what's right for the country. So that's easy for me, but it's also an advantage.

[BJ]

You know, I've had this argument with people so many times when people in 2016 that, oh, Trump is, you know, he's an a hole. He's this, I'm like, good, good. That's what I want. I don't want a nice guy who's going to be soft with communists. No. I want the biggest a hole we can find to make their lives miserable and want to go away. Right?

[Erica]

Yeah. I mean, I go back to Trump's first term and I forget what summit he was at. But remember that, that clip of him where he was pushing his way through the other world leaders and he like straightens out his time. Yeah. Like that took, that, took some chutzpah to do that. And he was like, I'm getting in the front. You're, I'm not going to stand back here like a shrinking violet. That's what you want? Yeah. So, so you know what, Dave Portnoy, go for it. Anyone else that's like, Dave Portnoy, you're a patriot, you have a shit ton of money and no one can silence you. Do it, do it. That's what we need. All right, so let's go. The other thing I want, actually any more on that from you guys? I didn't want to cut you off.

[BJ]

Yeah, I think I'd rather an American. Sorry. Go ahead, go ahead.

[Owen]

I just hope that Rosie o' Donnell comes back to run against him.

[Erica]

I know. Except she'll be filling in for Jimmy Kimmel. If anyone wants to see Rosie o' Donnell and her new facelift, she'll be filling in for Jimmy Kimmel while he's on vacation for a little while. And what did you want to say, bj, An American.

[BJ]

I can't top that.

[Erica]

Okay, okay. No, you don't want to top Rosie o'.

[BJ]

Donnell.

[Erica]

Okay. So, bj, what is going on in Canada? I have this little short baby clip I want to play. I was going to do Iran first, but let's just get into it. Here's a little clip. And then we'll chat this committee and

[Federal Guide Narrator]

the Federal guide to Combating Islamophobia. Across these reports, there is a clear consensus that combating Islamophobia requires deep structural reform and sufficient institutional capacity. Second, and in light of the documented rise in anti Muslim hate incidents and violent Islamophobia, we advance recommendations focusing on protecting Muslim communities and community spaces. The federal government should allocate at least $14 million through the Canada Community Security Program or a comparable dedicated funding stream to support security, infrastructure and protective measures for approximately 755 mosques and 100 Islamic schools. This amount is proportionate.

[Erica]

He wants $40 million to combat Islamophobia in Canada.

[BJ]

Yeah, that's last time it was $28 million. And you know, it's interesting that a lot of this money ends up in foreign countries. The only thing I can say about, I can't get into too much detail, but you know the file that Trump has around the killings of Christians in Nigeria? Yeah. That's where this money goes. And you know, many of us have been trying to warn about it for many, many years. And we're in such a good position now because like I can now say, oh, look at the terrorist wearing the terrorist shmata, because that's what he is. What we confuse here is people think all terrorists are trigger pullers. No, no, no. Terrorists are trigger pullers. They're funders. They're people who get in political entry ism through political parties. And that specifically. That's the press room on Parliament Hill in Ottawa. You don't get access to the press room unless you are part of the political establishment. That's how bad it is. You know, the Trudeau government had, we knew at the time, 11 Muslim Brotherhood members of Parliament in our government. We've had a Muslim Brotherhood Attorney General in Canada already. Not federally, but on the provincial level. The good news is at least people are now paying attention. I don't think it's too late, but people need to speak clearly on this issue and not be afraid to talk about it, which is what I think is the biggest problem. People are fearful and they want to just wash it away. They don't want to get, you know, they don't want to get involved in any of the noise. But I'm sorry, either you get involved and you speak up or you will not have a civilization and you're going to turn into France. And you know, France didn't have an Eric Zamur amongst their media class who's decided like Portnoy, okay, I'm going to run for president. If we didn't have that, then France itself would be doomed in the future as well to become another Islamic republic, which might be the case.

[Owen]

I'm pretty sure they are doomed already.

[BJ]

Yeah. England's pretty suspect. I think restore Britain is probably their one hope because since Nigel invited the Islamists into his party, I think reform is just another establishment, you know, that establishment takeover of that party. And, you know, they have one hope left, and hopefully they'll get it right. But at least people are willing to talk about it now, which is great. And we owe that to Elon Musk and buying Twitter. I think that's what's the big change was in.

[Erica]

I agree. And that's what I was saying. Like, even though I was trying to get away from it today, just to have a breather from it, because it's like it does. Takes your breath away. You can't, because people are so on it now. Like, they're just like, holy crap, Crap. Everything's changing. And I was looking. Montreal Galaxy in the chat was saying she was in the press room for three years, and she said that you had to be sponsored by a party to get into that press room. Unlike, you know, we had a President Obama who invited the Muslim Brotherhood to the White House privately, you know, dozens and dozens of times while he was president. Why? You know, and that's kind of how I've been seeing things lately. It's like, you know, Obama, it was like this. This is just my opinion. But, you know, he came in, they were like, okay, let's, you know, have him give a nice speech. He has a nice way about him, you know, and then he's like that snake in the grass, in my opinion. And now you have Mamdani who is like, Obama times 100, because he's got, like, even more charisma, and he's like, right into New York City. And he's got other people now that he's promoting that are winning elections. And the one woman, Chevalier. I'm not going to say it with a French accent, but she's the one that was like, we need to eradicate the west and, like, get rid of. Get rid of everything. So, you know, it's like this weird slippery slope. And somebody wanted to know, too. I'm sorry. I think it was b D Lyon wanted to know more about bj, the terrorists funding socialists. Like, is it who? Who is it? Is it like, this is just me talking now. Like, is it antifa people? Is it the Muslim Brotherhood? Is it, you know, who's sponsoring the

[BJ]

Politicians, it's complicated because it's not. There are many vectors and there's many different groups. And, you know, once one organization or NGO gets shut down and loses their charitable status, the same people go and open another ngo. But it goes to even law firms, very large international law firms that launder this money through escrow accounts into networks of mosques that they distribute them to the mosque. And this is how they take over the political structures. So the red. Like, for example, we had a candidate in the Conservative Party in Canada. So me and many other people lost our minds. He was an Islamist, he was a Pakistani Islamist, but he worked for the bank of China. Think about that. Works for the bank of China, right? So this. It's many different entities, organizations, countries like a large. There's such a large amount of money that came from the Morsi government, from Egypt that came directly into Canada. When the Morsi government fell, they basically raided the treasury, laundered the money legally into Canada somehow, but it was all illegal money. This is why you hear people talking about Qatar all the time. Because Qatar is the bank, right? Qatar is the bank for every terrorist organization. That's where they funnel the money through. You see that in the crypto space when you see all these crypto people that are obsessed with Israel, for example, that is money that goes from Qatar to Pakistan through the isi, which is. That's their intelligence apparatus. But it's basically might as well be Al Qaeda. They're very extreme. And that money then goes into crypto projects that are based out of Pakistan, and that goes to pay people online to propagandize and brainwash people, wash people in the rest in the West. So it's very. To draw a map of it, it would be many, many organizations, individuals, all that sort of stuff. But there's the good news is in the case of Canada and the U.S. is similar in this respect. Remember, Trump suggested that the problem is in Washington that there's 85% of the crimes are committed by a small group of whatever it was, 500, 600 people, I can't remember the exact number. It's the same thing with the jihad, terrorism funding and money laundering. It's the same group of people. In Canada's case, there's about 400 people that are trying to radicalize, prop up the MSA on university campuses, radicalize young people, launder money, all that sort of stuff. If you get those people out, then the rest of the people who are Muslim here, they just don't get involved in politics. Like, that's an indicator, warning when you see somebody who is Muslim, who is very, very ambitious and assertive about politics, doesn't mean they're Muslim Brotherhood. But look at the funding behind them. And that becomes the indicator and warning that, okay, you're dealing with somebody who's actual terrorist.

[Erica]

EJ doesn't believe a word you say. I'm sure you found that shocking, I

[BJ]

think, because EJ is either an Islamist or he's on the. The ultra. On the kind of. We call it the woke. Right. But that's not really the right frame. It's the integralists. They're left wing people who think they're right wing, but their philosophy is entirely left wing. And they've. They become mouthpieces for the Muslim Brotherhood. Or Yuri Besmanov called them the useful idiots. That's exactly what he's talking about.

[Erica]

Okay. And ej, are you Muslim?

[BJ]

No, he's.

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He won't.

[BJ]

He won't tell even if he is.

[Erica]

Oh, okay. All right. So anyway. All right, that's interesting. Oh, and anything on what BJ just said or moving on?

[Owen]

Oh, I think we can move on.

[BJ]

I think.

[Owen]

I think BJ is the expert on all this stuff.

[Erica]

Well, so. And yesterday I had mentioned that I wish I had pulled the clip, that there was a police, I think, chief from Dearborn, you know, so we did you love Brandon Darby coming on bj. Wasn't he great? Did you see him?

[BJ]

I. I only saw a clip of it.

[Erica]

Okay. He was so great. But we were saying to him, you know, like, what do we do? You know, how. How does this, you know, get solved? And he said, you're going to have to hope that law enforcement can do their job and this and that. And I said, well, except for the fact that law enforcement is now being infiltrated by these same people. And then I saw this clip from Dearborn, Michigan, and it's a little startling. So Dearborn, Michigan, you guys used to be, like, so Americana, it's not even funny. And now this is their police chief.

[Dearborn Police Chief]

Wonderful wife, Deanna, a strong, proud Palestinian woman. When I joined the department, Dearborn's Arab American population was nearly 50%, yet less. Yet less than 3% of our police force reflected the community that we served. The department was not always welcoming to people who were different. Today, the Dearborn Police Department is the department that I wish I worked for when I first started my career. It's now a department that reflects and embraces the community it serves. With 45% of our officers being Arab American, it's a department that respects the dignity and rights of all individuals, including the right to wear a hijab, even when facing the justice system. It's a department that has taken meaningful steps to address historical inequity. Together, we've built a police department that values diversity, equity, and respect, One that serves all of Dearborn with honor and integrity. I'm proud to serve as your chief of police.

[Erica]

I want to just. I want to go Jersey on this guy. I can't.

[BJ]

Inshallah.

[Erica]

All right, so, Owen, I'm going to come to you first. I mean, I just, I can't imagine. I can't imagine what's happening, that this guy is like, no, we need to reflect. You know, it was like, I'm going back to the Palisade fires. I'll go all over the place anyway, you know, just to say, like, oh, it's got to be more representative of the people who are just, like, storming over our border, by the way, and want to change America into Palestine or wherever. It's America, you know, or, let's hope that we keep it, but I don't know. I can't. The rage. Do you feel rage like I do, or are you more measured? You're measured.

[Owen]

Well, I do, I do think it's outrageous. I think it's, you know, ridiculous to think, okay, we don't need to care about merit. We don't need to care about how well people are doing their jobs. We need it to reflect the community. We need it to look like the community. It's all performative. It's all DEI under another name. It's just, you know, let's give these jobs to the people that we want to have them. And in many cases, I'm sure it's probably saying we want them to look the other way when some of this stuff happens, like female genital mutilation or honor killings or whatever else that are accepted in other parts of the world, but are not accepted here unless you have the whole police force on your side.

[Erica]

Yeah, I, I, I'm looking at the comments. I mean, everybody's like, get him out. Like, everybody's, you know, outraged. But this is, you know, it's not just Dearborn. I mean, this is going on everywhere. What do you think about this, bj? How, how is this, like, how are we allowing this to happen as a country? And, and I still can't get an answer. Do we. I know I ask you this every week, but does anyone in the administration, I know, they see it. Is there a plan? Is there a solution? Like what are we doing?

[BJ]

So the mechanics of how law enforcement and the system as Scott would talk about it, is very important. So my brother's a police sergeant and I have nephews that are cops and a lot of friends who are cops. I kind of know how it works on the inside and they are all as freaked out as you, I and the rest of us are. But the problem is this is the structure in Canada, from what I understand, it's very, very similar in not all parts of the United States, but it's very similar. So you have two types of law enforcement. You have all the officers here, that's I think it's inspector down. And then you have the deputy chiefs and the chiefs, two separate unions. So they're represented by completely different people. And what we've installed here, I think it was in the late 80s when all the social justice, you know, postmodern stuff started to get a foothold here, is they created community police services boards. So that means the community now gets involved in kind of directing how law enforcement is practiced. And those community boards are people who get appointed, they do things in politics, they donate, all that sort of stuff. The problem is here they are the gatekeepers. And we have police services board where we have Muslim brotherhood people on the police services board. And what happens, the police services board, they're the ones who hire the chiefs and the deputy chiefs. So all the officers down are like you and I as one said, I'd like to drag the imam out of his frickin mosque and give him a few batons. But it's politicized on the first two levels and the superintendents often wanna be politicians and run for office. So the solution here, and I think for law enforcement there is you need to get rid of these community police services boards to allow law enforcement to operate as it used to before we had. And one of the things they took away was this is a big issue here and I think it was in the US as well, you can correct me, the right to ID people. They called it carding, right? And why do police card random people? It's not random people. The reason I was giving the example of this person said, well, if I'm in my cruiser, it's two in the morning, I'm in an industrial parkway and there's three kids in the back of some business doing I don't know what I'm going to go knock on the door, just roll down my window, say hey guys, what are you up to? Why don't you give me your id? Just Let me run you through seat pick and get an idea of who you are. The reason they're doing that is for intelligence, not to arrest them, to figure out how does this node plug into other things that are going around in the community so you get a sense of where crime is originating from and who's running it. Well, we stripped that right away from them because of diversity and it's racist. So that's cultivated this culture in law enforcement called Fido. Forget it and drive on. If they see something suspicious, they're not going to put their career at risk. They're not afraid of being labeled racist. They're afraid of being reprimanded and losing the ability to be promoted or perhaps putting their job at risk because they have a mortgage and a family to take care of as well. And then the last thing to latch onto that, the idea that you have members of parliament in Canada, I'm sure Elon Omar's team as well, what do they do? They call the superintendents in policing and try to put political pressure on people. Oh, this person said something mean about me online. Go arrest them. And I know that because often my brother was a senior officer on duty answering those phone calls and saying, sorry, that's not what we're here for. Goodbye. So there's many things that, over decades that have led to this.

[Erica]

Yeah, we stopped a lot of, like the IDing, stop and frisk in New York. Owen, what do you think?

[Owen]

Well, I think it's sad to me how divided and different these police departments are being managed. And it seems like it's just going to lead to worse outcomes in these blue areas, where when you have these sort of defund the police attitudes, or let's be nicer to these people and not so nice to those people attitudes which they all seem to have, you make it harder for police to do their job properly and you drive out the good cops to go to areas where they're more respected and they're more allowed to do their jobs and supported when they do their jobs. And so it just seems like it's going to lead to more chaos, more crime, more violence and, you know, less order in all these areas. And so I'd like to fight it however we can. I don't really know how we can, given that Dearborn seems to be one of these areas of a country that's being taken over, essentially. It seems almost like we need to somehow take it back. But I'm not really sure how to go about doing that.

[Erica]

I. Yeah, I'm not either And I. You know, of course, you guys were always like, what would Scott say? I have no idea. I. I mean, this is, like, moving so fast now, you know, that I can definitely tell you that, you know, Scott's opinion was shifting and turning, and he could see the problem. You know, he could see the problem. He talked about it. I wish I could. I wish I could give you some insight or we could on what he would say, but we can't.

[BJ]

Can I take a guess at what Scott would say? Yeah, he'd probably say design is destiny and the system right now is designed for the outcomes that we have.

[Erica]

Well, yeah. I mean, although the system just keeps changing and. I don't know, like. All right, I don't want to mention this in the same context at all. Okay, so, like, period. Next thought. So that movie Citizen Vigilante. I'm not saying that's an answer. I'm just saying. But you can see how, you know, we all have a little bit of this, like, little vigilante feeling in us, because it's like, you know, if someone came into my house and was behaving this way, they wouldn't last two seconds. And the country is our house, and, you know, we're trying to be polite hosts even though people are invading us. And, you know, the design is destiny. Yeah, but I mean, like, so the designers are not Americans. Right. They're people that want to destroy America. So we need an American designer. I don't know.

[BJ]

You need Americans that are not communists. That's the problem. This is my problem also. Sometimes when people say, we need to be a white Christian nation, I get it. But there's white Christians who did this. Scott talked about that all the time. It's the left. You know, he mentioned it before that, or Portnoy mentioned it before these, you know, what do you call them? White liberal women. So it's not about race. It's about philosophy and ideology. And I think that's why it's important. It was important for me. I learned so much. Learning persuasion with being trained by somebody over many years, but also understanding the philosophy behind it, that if you understand what somebody's philosophy is and their filter of the world, then you can see it's not race that's motivated. It's how they think. It's their operating system. And we have to figure out a way to weed that out.

[Erica]

Well, you just said that. So I quick ran and grabbed a clip that I had saved and pulled it in here. And I don't think anyone will mind a moment With Charlie Charlie Kirk and his opinion on some of this. Let's listen.

[Beverly]

Country was found on common law because

[BJ]

the Declaration only refers to God four

[Beverly]

times in the Constitution, doesn't refer to

[BJ]

God at all and it only articulates the structure of government.

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So first of all, remember that we were a collection of states and colonies and you need to read the state constitutions before anything else. Nine out of 13 of the original states required you to be a Bible believing Christian to serve in government. At the time of the founding, all 1313 required a declaration of faith. Nine out of 13 required you to be a Protestant except Maryland which was Catholic, which still required a declaration of faith. Almost every single one of the original state constitutions, Pennsylvania included, they had I profess Lord and Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior in the original state constitutions. You remember we're a collection of states before that. Secondly, 55 out of 56 of the original signers of the Declaration were Bible believing church attending Christians. So common law is inherited from Blackstone who was Christian. A common law is an outgrowth of the scriptures. So let's go to three principles of common law. Presumption, medicines, due process, injury of your peers. All three are biblical principles wrapped into the ultimate biblical principle. You shall not favor justice if you are richer or poor, which is Leviticus 19 right before most famous part of Leviticus 19, which is that you should love your neighbors yourself. But before that is that in the administration of justice you shall not favor the rich or the poor, which is the idea of blind justice. We get that in the west, which is incorporated also in the New Testament ideal. Neither slave nor Greek nor Jew, you're all one in Jesus Christ who's we're the idea of human equality. These are all biblical ideas. They're not Enlightenment ideas, which is they kind of get conflated at the time. But more importantly than that, they say that God was only mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence. Well that's a big deal. Okay. Laws of nature and nature's God. The last paragraph of the Declaration reads as a prayer. It says we appeal to the Supreme Judge of the universe. Who's the judge of the universe? Jesus Christ. As it says in Revelation that Jesus will judge the earth on his throne. So in the Declaration they were praying to Christ our Lord as a prayer. Very specifically. Thirdly, as I said on the stage yesterday, Deuteronomy was by far the most quoted book, religious or non religious in the time of the founding when they were putting together Constitution more than John Locke, more Than Montesquieu, more than Blackstone. The book of Deuteronomy, which talked about laws, customs, traditions. It was most farewell address, as he's, you know, about to say goodbye, say, hey, good luck in Canaan, guys. Here's how you should set up your form of government. But finally, and most importantly, let's look at actually what the founders said. John Adams famously said the Constitution was only written for a moral religious people. It was wholly inadequate for the people of any other. The body politic of America was so Christian and was so Protestant that our form and structure of government was built for the people that believed in Christ our Lord. One of the reasons we're living through a constitutional crisis is that we no longer have a Christian nation, but we have a Christian form of government, and they're incompatible. So you cannot have liberty if you do not have a Christian population.

[Owen]

You're on mute. Erica, thank you.

[Erica]

That was one of our future presidents, Charlie Kirk, and what a mind man. Holy cow. You know, this is why I always say, you know, we're supposed to be a country built on Christian values. And then it's like, no, we're gonna. We're gonna just burn down your churches, build mosques, and take over your streets and your land, and it's horrifying to me. What do you think about that, Owen? That clip of Charlie?

[Owen]

I think it's brilliant, and I think it's true. I think that our government was designed for a Christian people, and a lot of the principles come from that. I think there is certainly a lot of room for that freedom of religion that was built right into the Bill of Rights. So it isn't meant to be exclusively Christian. Like, you have to be Christian. But I do think that a lot of the fundamental principles behind our justice system and our form of government are based on Christian principles. And I think where there are significant conflicts between that and things like Islam or, you know, radical jihad sort of things, they. They just aren't compatible. They just don't coexist.

[Erica]

Well, yeah. Oh, my gosh, I'm so emotional. It's so hard to, you know. All right, so, bj, you know, what do you think about what he's saying there?

[BJ]

I think it's still tough to watch clips of him. I actually tend to avoid them because I knew some people that were very close with him and who were in buckets of tears for a week, you know, young and their children were young and knew him from the university campus. And, you know, I watched that video, the assassination. I couldn't avoid it. It was on. I'm still mortified by it. So it's tough to watch that stuff. Everybody I knew who had met him loved him and talked about what a kind soul he was, and we need more people like that in the world. There's certain things I disagree with, but it's very nuanced. I agree with maybe 98% of what he's saying, and I understand the goals of what's trying to be done to unify people. I think they get. It's crazy for me when I see people who are Americans who criticize the Enlightenment, like the Enlightenment was also brought out of Judeo Christian values, much like the United States Constitution. So I think if we can sever the division and figure out a way to get people of faith and people. I remember there was a time where we had a secular government and we all got along great. Right? I mean, the US had been historically more religious than Canada is, but there was a time where we all respected each other. And that's what really frustrated me about Sam Harris and the Christopher Hitchens people. It's just like they were unnecessarily hostile towards Christians and people of faith. And I hope they've learned that the next time around that maybe the secular people who share the same value systems that come out of Judeo Christian values can actually align with people of greater faith and come together. That's what the country needs. Not less division, more coming together and focusing on what the real enemy and the real threat is to the West.

[Owen]

Yeah, I would just say, I think a lot of that attitude of those types of people, it's very arrogant. It's like, I very much appreciate the people who say, you know, I don't believe, but I can see how it's valuable. Scott said that. Many other people said that. Joe Rogan has said that, you know, Jordan Peterson, to whatever extent he's not an actual believer, said that, like, you can at least see the value of it. You can see how it leads to good outcomes. You can see how it helps people. And I think that was reflected in our Constitution. It's. It's not that, you know, they said, okay, we're all going to go to church on Sunday. You know, they didn't build religion into the government, but they, they made it compatible with those principles. They made it compatible with just the fundamental values. And I think you can certainly be a different religion or no religion and still believe in those same values of, you know, equal justice and, you know, freedom and things like that. And so I think Very many of the world religions are compatible with that. But I think wherever you aren't compatible with that, again, you're just not compatible with our system. And I think it was a concerted attack and an arrogant one, in my opinion, to say, oh, you know, if you believe in God, then you're stupid or you're an idiot or you're a fool. And it's also, in my opinion, arrogant to say, you know, we don't need any higher power. We can just do it all ourselves and there's nothing else. And it's, you know, basically putting yourself at the top of the hierarchy. And I think anytime someone does that, they end up falling at some point.

[Erica]

I agree with that. It's been interesting to see. So, you know, I've watched Rogan for 100 years and his evolution to now, he's like, you know, he. I mean, he was kind of laughing about the whole thing up until this. This year. I forget who it was, what interview it was, but I remember he was like, well, how, you know, how'd you get through this and how'd you do this and how'd you do that? And the person was like, my faith in God. And it was like, I saw a switch flip in Joe and he was just like, really, you know, like. Like he's heard it so many times, but he couldn't believe that whatever this person had gone through, that that's what did it for him. And then he started going to church now and studying about religion, and he's, you know, exploring it. And I'm really happy to see that. I'm not. I don't go to church. I mean, I'm one to talk, but I do believe I have beliefs. I don't want to talk about it. But even Jordan Peterson, like you mentioned, Owen, you know, he's like, I act as if there is a God and that these are the principles. You know, like, what's the harm in that? Like, that that's how I act. So if there is one and it's all true, then I'm going to just act as if. And, you know, Scott, you know, we don't know when Scott adopted his philosophy of accepting Jesus as his Lord and Savior. You know, he told us about it when he told us, when he accepted it is a different discussion that we're not going to have. But, you know, he's like, well, what's the harm in it? You know, like, if you believe in that, and if I. If I wake up or land in heaven, then good, you know, so I don't think there's anything wrong with behaving with morals and standards and decent values. It just makes for a better society. So, Owen, did you get my text?

[Owen]

No, but I can go look at it.

[Erica]

Thank you. Okay, so that's all interesting. All right, I wanted to. Any more on that, you guys? Or should we move on or.

[BJ]

No, Owen's knocked it out of the park again, so.

[Erica]

Yeah, that was great.

[Beverly]

Yeah.

[Erica]

Okay, so let me see what else I wanted. Owen is gonna check out the SCOTUS update because I think we got screwed again.

[Owen]

So which case are you looking at? You mean. Oh, you mean the. The ones coming out right now?

[Erica]

Yeah, I think Birthright came out. I saw them posting in the chat here.

[Owen]

I'm pretty sure we knew which way that one was going to go, but I'll take a look at the ruling to see what I can make.

[Erica]

Okay, here's a little intermezzo. By the way, I messaged Brian Romilly today because he posted this clip of New York City in 1955. I swear, you guys, I've been grieving the city for so long, but can we just take a little moment to appreciate what New York was? Inhale and exhale.

[Beverly]

Oh.

[Erica]

Aw, look at. Everyone's dressed so nice. Like, even when you were, like, dressed like a slob, you look nice. Brian and I were saying, like, what a time it must have been. Oh, boy. Erica's getting emotional today. Anyway, that was my little clip in New York. Aw, RIP New York. So, Owen, did I give you enough time? Was that fast enough?

[Owen]

Yeah, well, it's what we unfortunately expected. It says, held children born in the United States to parents unlawfully or temporarily present are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and are citizens at birth under the 14th amendment. So there might be more nuance to it after that, and it would probably take me too long to parse it all out and make sense of it. And I'm sure we'll see stories about that in the news over the next day or two. But it looks like they ruled against getting rid of birthright citizenship, which is a shame. I think it's a huge issue that you have, literally an industry of communist CCP people that are manufacturing babies to be US Citizens at scale. And I think it's been a problem for a long time where lots of people will just come here for what they call, like, birth tourism or whatever, and they just bring their pregnant people here to have their babies and, you know, just get that citizenship, and then they go home with it and it's clearly a, just a loophole that they're taking advantage of and exploiting. And I think when you, again, just like the illegal immigration in general, when you put it up at scale and with the illegal immigration, it's obviously tied into that because all these illegal immigrants might start having children here, then you end up with people who are not loyal to the country, not respecting our laws, not assimilating into our culture. But suddenly you have a massive number of these US Citizens that eventually are going to be voters. And it's probably going to be a real problem in the next 10 to 20 years when a lot of these people reach voting age and they might just do their mail in ballot from wherever they are in the world because that seems to be allowed in many states, which is ridiculous. But, you know, they could easily swing some of these elections and they could easily just say, okay, I'm going to go to that swing state, to that swing county to just, you know, put my vote in where it's really going to count and make a difference. And they could end up, we could end up with foreign countries deciding who our president is.

[Erica]

Yeah, it's, it's been a terribly disappointing couple of days with our Supreme Court. I don't, I don't know. What do you think?

[BJ]

BJ there's an interesting series on a platform I mentioned to you before, Red Pilled America with Patrick and Adriana. That's the podcast that they did the episode on Scott Adams, Let There Be Light. And I suggested on my stream everybody listen to it. It's great. But they did a series recently called what Is an American? And it goes through the legal jurisprudence behind birthright citizenship and how the court kind of misinterpreted intentionally. And it's very interesting. They talked about, for the Jewish conspiracy people, E.J. they talked about how the guy who brought the issue to the Supreme Court in, I think it was in the 50s. 50s or 60s, he was a communist also. Yeah, it was 50s. Yeah, he's a communist and he happened to be Jewish, but he's a communist. So that's my direct enemy. I'm sorry. That's just, just the way how most of us are who oppose communism. It doesn't matter your religion. So he brought it to the Supreme Court and he won. And they mentioned that he was Jewish and whatever. They didn't mention that the prosecutor, or I guess it's our version of the crown that was arguing on behalf of America to try to strip this guy of his citizenship was also Jewish. So again, it's not about race or identity politics. It's about people who share values and understanding that's rooted in Judeo Christian values. And for some people's Judeo, Christian, Greco, Romanian, I mean, that's the political structure side of it. We need to find people who share our values and amplify each other. Even when we disagree on stuff, right, there's always going to be nuance we disagree on, but it's at a point where we are in the 11th hour for Western civilization. And the enemy will not stop. They will not stop ever. There's no negotiating with them because they're religious fanatics. And I don't think the solution to religious fanaticism is more religious fanaticism on the other side. That's what they are. That's what they are banking on. Why do the Communists do what they do and try to agitate us so much? Because the biggest weapon they can build is reciprocal violence or reciprocal radicalization. And in a system that we have in the west, in the United States and Canada and other parts, all we need is actual enforcement. That's it. We just need enforcement. And Trump is one of the first administrations that seems to be willing to stick their neck out as much as they can to shift into an era where we actually start to enforce the laws that we have. And hopefully that's a signal to other countries around the world. And I think it is. I think that's why so many other world leaders love Trump behind the scenes. But publicly, they'll say mean things about him and condemn him because they understand that they don't want to be attacked by the radical leftists. But they all love him. They all love him. You know, privately, they all admire him. So I think that's an element of hope for the future.

[Erica]

I wish I knew how to make you guys feel better. I'm reading the comments on all the platforms. Everyone's like, I'm depressed. This stinks, you know, but, Dr. Von Hardy, I saw you and you're right like this. The court's been upholding this forever. However, it's kind of like, you know, the immigration has changed drastically. So I don't know. I don't know. You know, if Marcela was here, she could tell me, you know, is there a process to revisit this? Is there a case to be made that things have changed so much and, you know, that we are having little babies, terrorists being born here, no shade to the babies. I mean, but it's just what's going to happen.

[BJ]

But can I just say One more thing on that, Erica. So I think these, in my experience, and people are getting angry at me, but this is just my life experience, having spent a lot of time in Latin America almost marrying somebody from there. And I really know the culture well, and I've met many people who are illegal. The communist Islamist phenomenon is more recent, for sure, and it's a problem. But in most people who are trying to come here, especially from Latin America, they want their kids to be American. Like, I know people who are. Their kids are. They're Latino. Their kids don't speak Spanish because they want them to integrate and become American.

[Erica]

Yeah, Latin America.

[BJ]

Yeah, exactly. Because they share similar values. And I remember being in, like, a strategy meeting with a bunch of politicians and saying, hey, hey, hey, I had an idea. Why don't we stop importing the Muslim Brotherhood from the Middle east and why don't we just focus on Latin America where they share our values? They just want to come here and integrate and build a better life and then contribute remittances to their home, their back people back home, and improve everybody's life, which seems to be in line with the Dunro doctrine. So I'm glad. And it looks like we've pivoted in that direction. But I think it's a mistake, at least in my experience, to assume that the overwhelming number of people, and maybe this is the court is considering, I don't know, that the overwhelming number of people here are bringing anchor babies because they want to destroy America. Yeah, that's the Islamist. But most people are not politically engaged like us. They just want a better life and they don't know what to do. You know, would you blame anybody in Venezuela right now that's like, okay, I got to get the hell out of this s hole and get to America and get my life sorted and provide for my family. I think that's what.

[Dearborn Police Chief]

That's.

[Erica]

I have to push back a bit on that, bj, because, like, listen, I, I love our Mexican neighbors. I, you know, I think they have, like, the best work ethic, and I see them as, you know, doing their best to assimilate and all that good stuff. But what I witnessed during the Biden administration was just a ton of men pouring over here on boats and this and that. And what was there, like, 20 million people just flooded in here? I, you know, yeah, there was a few women and children, and a lot of those children were trafficked and slave labor and everything else. So I just have to push back on that part. Yes, there are some amazing people but, you know, and I used to feel like, oh, you know, you know, let, like, let most people stay. And I, you know, I always saw people, you know, doing their best to, like, work and even pay taxes, and they're trying. Like, I have. I have friends right now who are in the process of working so hard to get their citizenship. For 15 years they've been working on it. Okay, totally. So everything else is so disgusting to me. Like, these people are like, please. Like, I'm working, I'm doing my best. I'm paying taxes, I'm contributing. And now I just am, you know, I'm just seeing so many terrorist nations getting people in here any way they can, whether it's in our colleges or coming over the border. I'm over it. You know, I'm over it. And. And I'm usually, like, a pretty happy person and like, live and let live, but I'm changing. I'm changing now, and that kind of sucks, but the environment around us is changing, and I'm more protective of our country than the live and let live right now.

[BJ]

No, and I agree, by the way. I agree with you. That's why I say it's a more recent phenomenon.

[Erica]

Yeah.

[BJ]

Letting people through NGOs and stuff, stuff like that. That was not the case 15 years ago. That doesn't excuse it, because there are people who go through the line and do things properly and it takes them 10, 15 years. I'm not excusing that. But, yeah, things have definitely changed. And look at England. That's exactly what's happened to England with the. The invasion of that country in France as well, and Italy and Spain. I'll list every country in Europe. Yeah, it's crazy what's going on.

[Owen]

So the basic where this leaves us, I think, is that the executive order option is off the table based on this. But I think Congress could still act. They could still clarify what they think citizenship requires. I think the Constitution and the original intent here, or original language here allowed for Congress to clarify what these things mean. And so they could give it a try if they were willing to legislate. I'm sure they're not. I'm sure it's not going to happen, but that. That would probably be the most likely if we could get enough of a majority to agree on this. Obviously, another constitutional amendment would be another solution, and that would be maybe the best solution, but probably the least likely just because, again, it takes like two thirds of the states plus, you know, 60 or however many votes in Congress, in the Senate, and you Know, it's. It's a very hard thing to do. But, you know, I think the other impact of this is it strengthens the argument to strengthen our borders and it might mean that we need to crack down on saying, okay, if you're pregnant, you're not allowed to come here. We're not going to give you any visa. We're not going to let you in here if you're pregnant. And maybe there has to be some kind of verification. I don't know. It just, it leads in a bad direction. I don't really want to be like, okay, we need to give you a pregnancy test before we give you a visa. But, like, that may be a requirement going forward because we just can't allow this to happen.

[BJ]

How about if you're involved in terrorism, money laundering, in any way, shape or form, you and your family are banned for three generations.

[Erica]

There you go. I love it. Love it. Yep, I love it. All right, thanks, you guys. So I will stay and play an Akira song after. So BJ and Owen, if you have to bolt, feel free.

[Choice Hotels Announcer]

Okay.

[BJ]

And I'm gonna do a live stream starting when you're done.

[Erica]

Awesome. Okay, great. So go catch bj. You guys, thank you to BJ for being here with us today. We always love when you're here.

[Owen]

I love you guys.

[Erica]

Oh, thanks.

[Owen]

Thanks.

[Erica]

So, oh, my gosh, everybody and their mother is calling me right now. Okay, so you guys, as always, we thank Scott and Shelly for allowing this show to go on. And we thank all of you for showing up here and being so amazing. We read all your comments, we see you and we appreciate the back and forth. Do you guys please give us a thumbs up if you haven't already. That really, really helps us to keep going. And we'll be back tomorrow. And you guys, guys, let's have a closing sip to our beloved Scott. We miss him so much. And we'll see you tomorrow.

[BJ]

To Scott, like, share and subscribe.

[Erica]

Thank you. All right, guys, today we're gonna do do something by Akira the Dawn. And if you guys have to jet, feel free.

[BJ]

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[Erica]

Oh, yes, let's say your channel.

[BJ]

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[Erica]

Honking for freedom.

[Beverly]

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. You've heard that, right? Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. How about that college class you were gonna sign up for? How about that sport you wanted to get involved in? How about that motorcycle you wanted? Too dangerous, right? You're free. You're free. Every one of you who is depressed and anxious. You're free. You're free. Because nothing you do will be worse than the way you feel right now. Do something. Do something. Dangerous. Psychologically dangerous. Take a chance. Put yourself out there. Flame out, get killed. Just get smashed. Just go do it. You're free. But freedom is just another word. Nothing left to lose. You're free. Do something.

[Choice Hotels Announcer]

Do something.

[Beverly]

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[Doug]

Do something.

[Beverly]

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[Owen]

Right?

[Beverly]

You can't just make a friend like good luck. You can try, but I don't think I've ever seen it work. Hi. You know, Baba, hearing good things about you, I think we could be friends. Doesn't work. Do something. Do something. Join a thing. Make a sport. Form a club of your own. Just go do it. You're afraid. But freedom's just another word. But nothing less bruises. You're free. Do something.

[Dave Portnoy]

Do something.

[Beverly]

Freedom's just another word. Nothing left to lose. You're free. Do something. Why would you not form a club of your own? Because you're afraid nobody would come right? What's the difference? You're as good as dead. You're depressed, you're anxious. You hate your life. You're thinking about putting it. I can't say that here, but you're thinking about maybe life isn't worth it. You're free. You're absolutely free. Go have some fun. Freedom's just another word. There's nothing left to lose. You're free. Do something.

[Dearborn Police Chief]

Do something.

[Beverly]

To you, freedom's just another word. Nothing left to lose. You're free. You're free. Do something.

[Dave Portnoy]

Do something.

[Beverly]

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[Choice Hotels Announcer]

It really works.

[Beverly]

You're free. Just remember that people criticizing you are narcissists. They are broken. Don't let it break you. You've got some techniques now and I think you're gonna be a lot better. Go get yourself some friends and you'll find your mental health problems feel a lot better. Go get involved in something. Join a group. Form a group. Be the boss. That is your advice for the day and I will talk to you.

[Erica]

A thanks you guys thanks, Owen. Sorry my little pinner got stuck. I couldn't. I was reading all your comments, but I couldn't pin them anymore. But anyway, you guys, thank you so much. So much. All right, so we'll see you back here tomorrow morning. And Marcella will be back, too. All right, Enjoy your day. Thanks, Owen.

[Federal Guide Narrator]

Bye.

[Erica]

Bye. Thanks, you guys. I am 80s maxing. Bye, you guys.