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Good morning, Hubert, Gracie, Steven, Jackie, Gregory.
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Where's my mirror?
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All our friends are here.
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They are. Okay. There we go. Good morning, YouTube. Rumble X is in the house. Spotify, you are listening. Spotify. Just so you know, we are so gorgeous. Like, full glam every day. Since you're just listening, I just want you to know what you should be picturing. Package picture. Like Cindy Crawford and Brad Pitt. That's what you're listening to today. And here comes George Clooney now. Joshua's joining us in one second. Hang on. And here he comes. I was just.
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Good morning.
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I was just saying hello to everybody. Joshua. I was letting Spotify. Since they can only hear us, I wanted them to understand that they were. Look, you know, what they're hearing is Cindy Crawford, Brad Pitt, and George Clooney. That's accurate, right?
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Incredible content.
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Right? Good visual. Good morning, everybody. All right, Joshua's in the house. We're so excited. And we are going to pick up where we left off with Joshua last time. We'll recap in a few minutes, but there's something we need to do first. I know I do.
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2021 is going to be lit off the hook and any other old hackneyed expression you'd like to put on that. But first, the simultaneous sip. What do you need? You need a cup or a mug or a glass, a tanker, cellos or sty. And a canteen. Sugar flask. A vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee. And join me now for the dopamine of the day. The thing that makes everything better, including 2020. It's called the simultaneous sip, and it happens now. Go. Yeah. Yeah, that's working. I can feel the improvement coming.
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Little did he know, 2020 is better
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now than it was then.
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Well, that's true. Yes. Cheers. Cheers. Back to you, Joshua. You guys. So listen, you know, I don't ever want you guys to be out in the world like suckers and losers. I want you to know all. Like, remember when I introduced you to Punch Monkey and I was like, you got to know Punch just in case. I mean, time has gone by, and if you don't know Jimothy, it's time.
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Here he is, making the rounds among fans of all things weird and creepy, this unusual raccoon, possibly with a condition known as short spine syndrome. He's been spotted in Seattle, embraced by bigfoot lovers, and nicknamed Jimothy by someone who explained, quote, he just looks like a Jimothy. I agree.
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Okay, so that's Jimothy. Even President Trump liked him. Here he is looking at him. So Jimothy is, like, sweeping the nation with his little short spine. He lives in Seattle, of course. Where else would Jimothy live? So. So if anyone talks about Jimothy, I just want to make sure everyone at the Scott Adams School is up to date. And also, just in case they mentioned Tilly, here's Tilly. Tilly has the same thing. Yep. Amazing. So now you guys know. You're. You're ready for the rest of the week. Jimothy. Tilly. You're welcome. Joshua, good morning.
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Good morning, Erica. I'm pleased to be here with you.
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And we are pleased. Thank you for joining the Scott Adams School. Like, who else would be here the most but you? We had on Joel the other day, gave us an update, telling us that you guys were working on the biography together. How amazing it is. I didn't have the heart to tell him to call you Joshua, but I want you to know everyone in this chat was like, it's Joshua. It's Joshua. I was like, joshua can tell him. But we, you know, we were looking out for you. We love you. So, anyway, we. We'd love to hear your take on what's going on with the Scott Adams biography.
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Yes. The experience that I have had going through it is the first announcement that Scott made on May 19, 2025. So over, you know, just over 14 months now, the Internet suddenly stopped everything and rallied around Scott. And we all remember the stories, the anecdotes, the here's how you changed my life from strangers. And we remember the threads where it's thousands of comments, long people writing novellas about their experiences with Scott and what. What he meant to them. Do you remember how you felt reading all that and hearing that news publicly for the first time? And how over the next couple of days, it. It began to settle in that we would all soon, whatever that meant, be experiencing Scott in the past tense. That, I think, for many, created an open loop in our relationship realities and an understanding of the world because Scott was such an effective sense maker for so many of us. And that loop has remained open. There has not been closure for. For many people. And I'm confident that as you read Scott's biography, that loop will close for you and you will experience cathartic closure. Still, so many say, oh, I miss Scott. I miss God. I miss God. And there is a line in reframe your brain in which in the grief reframe section, Scott says something to the effect of after you felt bad and you've cried and you felt sad. And when you're done with that, and then when you're ready, Scott's biography will assist you in getting there.
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Okay, well, that's good to know. I think a lot of people would like to get there and feel like it's impossible, but I guess you're saying it's possible.
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Yes, I experienced that myself. And many people know how close he and I were. And it was like. It was like grieving him all over again without him present to experience that. And when you rewrite an experience, and this is what you learn through hypnosis and why one creates multi sensory simulations for the mind's eye, the mind's ear, and so on and so forth. In the hypnosis session, when I do this with people, I have them remember the memory, okay. That has caused so many issues. And then I alter the experience of them remembering the memory. Okay. So that going forwards, when you remember the memory, the thing that caused certain behaviors and beliefs and whatnot, you are not remembering all those times that it happened. You remembering the time you remembered it and it didn't hurt anymore, and now you are free.
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Love that. I love that. Are you guys ready to be hypnotized with this book so we can have a fresh new memory that doesn't hurt the way it used to? I am. I'll take it. I'll take two. Thank you. Well, that's amazing. So. And Joel said that you are a stellar editor. So, you know, we know this, but coming from Joel, that was quite nice to hear for you. And you know we're always proud of you. We love watching all the things you're doing and all the ghost writing you're doing. And I see you're like really putting yourself out there more, which I'm loving. Can I actually post the photo you sent to me just so we can. If anyone wants to screenshot this. If you're in Ohio, let me just put this bigger. So why don't you tell us what this is?
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Yes. So this is tonight in Springfield, Ohio. Down Springfield. Many people are not have noticed that I am wearing a. Over here. Ohio First. Ohio first hat. So many of you may know that I have authored the first and the only book that covers the American migrant crisis, specifically the influx of between 15,000 and 34,000 Haitians, uniquely unassimilated Haitians who had been living in Brazil and Chile for the most part and were bussed up and flown in by the Biden administration into Springfield, Ohio. And what I have gathered is a punishment for the city, punishment for the people who are unable to defend themselves from the experience. And of course, there have been a number of deaths as a result of the Haitian influx into Springfield. Now, people might know eating the dogs, eating the cats, that sort of meme that went viral. And of course politifact called the Haitian influx phenomenon the lie of the year. They called it the lie of the year. And it's Vance shares false rumors, Trump doubles down on racist hoax. These are the headlines, right? There's even a Wikipedia page, Springfield hoax. It's like something to that effect. Well, when I earlier this year, I live in Dayton, Ohio. Okay, that's just one city over. It's like 16, 17 minutes for me to get from where? Like my door right here. Okay, my office to Springfield, approximately. And I thought I had a responsibility to my neighbors because. Because so many people were relieved when they found out that the temporary protected status was going to expire. Stay on track. They all go back. But then of course, there was a battle in the lower courts and all the way up to the Supreme Court and the people had that hope set dashed for them. It was a rather rough time. And it was earlier this year. I tweeted about an experience in which I had met a longtime landlord in Springfield. I confirm aspects of his story, by the way, that were important. And he shared with me that he had has rented to Haitians before and that he's had real issues renting to Haitians because they destroy his place. They take the Ohio and then they retrofit Haitian culture, custom and ways of life. And all you got to do know what this looks like. Pull up Haiti and Google Earth, go to Port au Prince, okay? Go to Port au Prince, Haiti, Google Earth, do street view and just browse around for a little bit. Is that what you would like your neighborhood to look like? If so, import tens of thousands of Haitians there with no delay. And that of course, is what became a Springfield. And this man has repeatedly had to evict Haitians because often what they do is they will sublet. You know, one family will rent the property and they will sublet it to 10 more of their own. And so now suddenly there's 15 Haitians living in a single family, two bedroom home.
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Yeah, so that's what you told us last time I was re watching the show just to refresh. And it was astounding to me because you said also when they leave, they take the drywall off the counters. Right? You said they like strip the house down to like it's studs. I mean, so this is like real third world culture. Like this, it just. It just doesn't fit people. Like this is. And then we had. I don't know if you ever did see the Brandon Darby interview. We had two days after you. If not, please watch it because I think you would really like him, Joshua. But you know, when you import the third world, you get the third Third world. Right. And so all these Haitians on this one little concentrated area doesn't take long to destroy it.
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Oh yeah, right. It was rather catastrophic for the people. But of course, the. We call it AT Data Republican, of course, calls this the NGO administrative complex. That is. That is nationwide. That is a supranationalist organization. Not. This is slightly different from globalism. Okay. We heard the other day, President Macron of France, remember he said patriots, patriotic, not nationalist. Yes, that's what that means. You're patriotic for being a citizen of Earth. All men are created equal. Everyone is basically the same. We're all interchangeable. And this democracy building that we saw for approximately 25 years or so, 20 years in the Middle east, first with the war on terror, so called Iraq, the Afghanistan, the Arab Spring phenomenon, so on and so forth, all those antics in the ISIS and so on and so forth. Okay, the insurgents, that was the previous version of supranationalism where we can take our western way in life and impose that on these cultures with IQ median mode and mean that are roughly equivalent to elementary schoolers in America. Okay. The adults. Okay, again, this is not exaggeration. This is just the way that it is. And so because that failed so spectacularly, the new supranationalist phenomenon, to have us all get along and be a global neighborhood, it's like hippie kumbaya worldview. John Lennon's imagined that. That is in effect what they literally believe. They don't think they're evil. They think they're at the end of history and that there's a neoliberal, neoconservative world order where we can have liberal freedoms for everyone in the world and cons everyone's best values and traditions and we can all just get along, coexist.
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But it doesn't seem to me like it's just about sort of breaking down borders or, you know, bringing everyone together like they were one country. It seems like it's more like how do we get the far left radical communist agenda into countries like the United States?
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By design.
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Yes, there is, there is certainly an aspect to this, but the supernationalists and leftists are ideologically distinct. Unfortunately, they find themselves being allies in a number of things because leftists have realized that is so destructive, so they like it. But you tend to see the supranationalists will condemn leftism and radical politics and whatnot, not realizing that the leftists see them as on the same side and useful to their agenda. But because of the spectacular failure of the war on terror, our global NGO administrative complex decided that the new solution to democracy building, instead of sending our soldiers there, we're going to bring their civilians here and we are going to inculcate them in United States constitutional values by importing some of the most violent backwards cultures in the world, be it Somalia, be it Haiti, be it Pakistan. And we're going to create massive enclaves of as many of them as possible. And when we educate them in our public school system and we have them enjoy civic life and voting for the first time and women's rights, shout your abortion okay. All the way back to Afghanistan, that will result in us being able to create everyone getting along, hashtag, coexist. And so that, as far as I can tell, is the ideology and a data republic. And I have a book coming out in October, I think the week after Haitians of Springfield comes out that discusses all of this. And of course that NGO administrative complex phenomenon exists in Clark County, Ohio. It exists in Springfield. And a lot of people say, oh, it's the Jews, or it's the Democratic Party, or it's the leftists, or it's the whoever. And the NGO administrative complex of Clark county is white, Christian, Republican, but they are explicitly, in my opinion, anti white working class conservative Trump voters. They see themselves as the betters of the community. They are the cosmopolitans. They're the ones who learn five sentences of Haitian Creole and will have a conversation with them. They're the ones who say you don't understand, it's just their culture. Oh, you say that you saw a small group of Haitians goose napping in the park and grabbing up geese and ducks. You're racist because you said that. Oh, you have proof of it actually happening. Oh, so you've never eaten a bird before? You've never had chicken before? I once a duck and it was phenomenal. How dare you impose your morals on them, you white supremacist bigot. Like that's, that's the cycle. It's not happening. Oh, it is. Well, you're both racist for saying it's happening and then racist for not being happy about it. And when you hear people say this for the first time, you feel like you're in a Twilight Zone episode or the Truman show where the cameras are always around the corner. It's, it's really something. But again, the, the, the, the administrative complex is like, love your neighbor. The Bible says love your neighbor. We have to love our neighbor as ourselves. We have our Haitian neighbors. And this is their reframe. Okay. This is the thing that they use. This is the rallying cry, Haitian neighbors. Haitian neighbors. Haitian neighbors. Haitian neighbors. Love your Haitian neighbors. Haitian neighbors. Haitian neighbors. It's like a song and it's almost. And it's the thing that they just, they put out there because love your neighbor. It's an, it's an explicitly Christian message. And the people that are running the show, they're Republicans. It's almost entirely Republicans, although there are a few groups that are explicitly anti Trump and like that their founding thing. We are here to resist the Donald Trump agenda, you know, f ice type of spirit. But they find themselves on the same side because in my opinion, they hate working west working class white people more than they love Haitians. And this is the experience that I've had with actual volunteers who have attempted to help Haitian families integrate into the American way of life. There have been a number who have been, who have extended actual compassion to the Haitian people and have done good by them, in my opinion. And they're not at all affiliated with these organizations who are using the Haitians as empath props for fundraising. And I want all Scott Adams school viewers to begin using that phrase and notice that phrase, empathy props. Okay, so the Haitians of Springfield have been used as empathy props for the supranationalist NGO administrative complex. And you will notice that there are these so called protected classes that are the empathy props. It's give me what I want. Look at this poor Haitian child. Gimme, gimme what I want. Give me power. Poor Haitian child. Look at my empathy prop. And then that's all they're doing. And they're very explicit about it too. So there are a number of organizations in Springfield who are using empathy props Haitians and are raising tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, even millions of dollars by saying, love our Haitian neighbors. Love our Haitian neighbors. It's just incredible content. And so what I've done with Haitians of Springfield is I have successfully debunked the debunking that the mainstream media claims that they did two years ago. And tonight is the first, my first public appearance in Springfield as the author. I'VE been sleuthing and gumshoeing around quietly around town for the last several months now, not revealing my true agenda as I interview the enem of the people in Springfield and get all the goods on them and they will not be very happy about it.
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And what would you tell them when you're interviewing them?
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Stay on track. They all go back is what I would say. Now, that's not what I would say. Then I would say, oh, I'm just, you know, I'm in. I'm in town today. There's a few sites, a few parks. You know, you guys have a bit new Indian burial man around here. Right? You know, which of course is true. And it was just, oh, okay. You know, I. Around town and of course I have a background as a professional actor in theater. And so I know how to go into character when I'm. And I'm effective at doing that around enemies of people and not betraying your true agenda. And this is something that I would like conservatives and people on the right to understand. Oh, Joshua, that's unethical. You know what's unethical is importing tens of thousands of people to a city who cannot defend themselves. Silencing them, shaming them, threatening their jobs if they speak out. So many of the people who witnessed the cats being killed, skinned, sacrificed, it's a voodoo thing. Ducks, geese, they were forced to sign NDAs or they would lose their pension. Be it from the school or be it from the city, they were employees. People who said, if you talk about what you saw, we are going to put hundreds of one star reviews on your business or we are going to report to your employer that you are a racist, bigot, neo nazi. Would you like us to do that? Put the mic in their face. What's your name again? What did you say you saw? Oh, I didn't see anything. Damn right you didn't. And that's what the mainstream media did to these people. And I am their voice, Erica. I am their champion.
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You are.
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I have vindicated them. And so we're having a town hall tonight with an investigative reporter as the emcee named Jack Windsor, who can independently confirm many of the things in the book because he witnessed it two years ago when he came to Springfield. And it's a forum for the people of Springfield to experience a cathartic release of we were right and now someone believes us.
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Yeah, thank God. Like how many people around this country wish someone would just point out this horrible thing happening near them and put attention and focus on it. Is it going to be live streamed?
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Parts of it will be recorded, I am sure. But I think there's still fear amongst the populace of losing their job, losing their business, etc that it probably won't. We couldn't want to face docs name docs, et cetera. Anyone? Yeah. And will there be any vetting process and the Clark County Sheriff's office will be there. And by the way, the sheriff of Clark county who was there from 2017, 2025, she saw everything. She gave me all the receipts. She gave me everything.
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Great. Good. You guys, this is, this is what we need. Yes. Like citizen vigilante is the word of the year for me or the of lately. I love the word vigilante lately because it's like no one else is stepping up to do things. And that's what I keep telling the sippers. You know, we have to, we have to do the things, you know, we have to be the, the louder mouths and represent ourselves, I guess. Owen, what's your take so far?
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Well, I think it's great what you're doing and I'm interested to see how this is all going to play out. I know there is this thing going on right now with Springfield where they revoke the T and in theory they're all going to be deported. I think there was some false online rumor that 80% of them were self deporting. And you know, now there are, there is some messaging coming out I think from DHS encouraging them to self deport and I'm sure that would probably be the easier way to get rid of most of them if they do that. But it seems like they're hanging on from what I can tell. So they're trying to keep working and keep, you know, sticking to the last possible moment. So it'll be interesting to see if there's a raid in Springfield. Maybe I'll get some good footage.
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Yeah. What do you know about that, Joshua? Has anyone. Has there been a decrease of Haitians since that came out?
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No, not according to the people I have heard from. Literally hundreds, probably about three to four hundred Springfield residents who have reached out to me personally and said, Josh, you got to stop this rumor. They're all still here, they're all still causing mayhem. And they're also not simply not self deporting, they're spreading. There is a incident the other day about a Haitian crashing their car into a business in Huber Heights, which is a neighboring city. They've been spotted in Troy, Ohio, which is Miami County, Inglewood, Ohio, in Montgomery County Beavercreek Township, Ohio. A number of them were caught shoplifting yesterday at the Beaver Creek Walmart. So they're not self deporting, they're spreading. And this is the issue with I believe, a feckless Republican party that unfortunately falls for this whole well we gotta have sympathy, we gotta have compassion on them, we gotta give them an emergency extension. And the people of Springfield are wanting to throw up Batman signal with Donald Trump's profile of please send ice in here and round them all up and take them out. And it can be done swiftly and it can be done gently, but it must be done. And as I like to say, re migration is compassionate, safe and effective because everyone deserves to live amongst those with whom they belong.
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Why aren't they being taken out like so this past, this, you know, this, you can do it, you can get rid of them, take away their protective custody status. So why are they still there? Like why isn't there like okay, quick, let's go get everybody and get them out.
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Well, the Haitians and the, I call them the opposite Ohio first. They're the, the administrative angio, administrative complex of, of the businesses, the, of the, of the, the religious institutions, the charities, the government, so on and so forth that basically run the town. You know, the cosmopolitan elites they're called by the working class people. It's a working class rust belt post industrial town that lost approximately 25% of its population from 1980 to 2020.
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Ish.
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Okay. Due to NAFTA and other things that wiped out so many jobs from the community. And then you had the opioid crisis that took, took and left a rather horrific impact on the city. But when you talk to the people they, the Haiti first, I call them the Haiti first community, they simply say, oh, we're not going anywhere, we're staying, we're going to keep driving, we're going to keep working and you're not going to stop us. And that by the way is the Haiti first community that speaks on behalf of the, of the, of the Haitians. They're still in Springfield because the, in my opinion, in my opinion the explicitly anti white NGO administrative complex wants them there. And I think they use the Haitians as empathy props because they're non white and it's much easier to use them as a political bludgeon against relatively defenseless vulnerable working class white Trump voters in a way that the Latinos have not. There's approximately 8,000 Latinas in Springfield from the numbers that I have seen and they tend to get along really well. With the locals, they start the restaurants or food trucks. And then the Springfielders love to love to, you know, hang out there. That's the place to go. You got for birthday, you go to the Mexican restaurant. Okay. A number of the locals have learned Spanish, they have learned English and vice versa. Kids play together like it's an actual assimilation and even integration that's happening with the Latinos. But they say their culture is close enough to ours that it just works. We get along, and where we're different, we don't disagree, we don't have problems. But the Haitians largely have a culture so foreign to any American way of life, it just doesn't work. And the vast majority have no interest in assimilating. They are, in my opinion, an ethno narcissistic culture that is simultaneously low trust. So that when Haitians have been positions of power, like as landlords, as small business owners or whatever, they take horrific advantage over their own people who they're renting to. A regular Haitian scam that has been run around town to families with pregnant mothers and small children by their own people is, oh, I'm the landlord of this home. I will rent to you Haitian. You're pregnant with twins. You have a 2 year old and a 4 year old. Your husband's having trouble finding work. I'll rent to you. I'll charge you per person for my property. Which is illegal, of course.
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Yes.
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And they do it anyway. And then a year later it comes out, there's an eviction notice because the Haitian landlord wasn't actually the landlord. He was renting from the landlord and lying to this family. And now they're all being evicted because their money has been stolen by this and that Haitian way of life, unfortunately.
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So he's subletting it in New York
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City like the Italian cops out in New York City. We don't do that in America.
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Right. So. But if, if an American landlord did that, they'd be in trouble. But, you know, this guy's like, nope, subletting. I'm once removed. I don't even have anything to do with it.
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Well, and if American, if an American person did that, they would probably be in prison now.
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Yes, it's. It's disgusting. That's. I mean, that's part of the. That's part. I mean, you know, the problem I see is that, you know, we're not. Americans are not stupid. Like, we see all the things, but the government and the politicians want to keep telling us that we're full of it. And, you know, And I go back to suicidal empathy and oh, well, you're just racist and you're, you're a Trumper and you're a what? And it's like, go ahead, call me names like you guys. I hope everybody at this point is immune to being called a name like you Just don't care. Call me whatever you want, just don't call me late for dinner. But it's like the lying to everybody's face is only making Americans more upset. And I think it's gonna backfire because I feel like there are more little pop ups of like you, what you're doing for Ohio, you got your Nick Shirley and you've got your Nate Friedmans, and you know, people that are just like, listen, I'm just gonna go out there and expose it all and it hopefully will create a million more people like you. I feel like it's some point our voice has to overpower the NGOs and the politicians. I just feel like it has to. Whether we end up with another third viable party or something, I just want to see a way out of the situation we're in. So is there a way out of what's happening in our country? Do you think either one of you, Owen or Joshua, is there a way out of this?
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Well, it's in the comments. Oh, and you got something, you got something for everyone.
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Well, I mean, my perspective is we are, we are going in the right direction here. We are deporting a lot of people. We are revoking tps. We are, you know, yanking all the financial benefits away from these people. Because I think that's, to me, the biggest problem is when you give people free health care, free rent, free food, free everything. You're, you're not only overwhelming our systems because those were designed as like social support systems for American citizens. And you can't just extend that to the world and expect that to be sustainable. But it also encourages them to come, it encourages them to be here. And it, it is probably in large measure why so many of them are here. And so I think Trump is doing a lot of the right things. I mean, back when we first started with the second term and I started talking about, you know, here's what I think you need to do to get rid of all these people. I was saying you need to take away these economic incentives, take away all the money that they're getting and they'll go home because that's why they're here. And that's exactly what Trump is doing. I see headlines on a regular Basis. Like we're taking away in state tuition, we're taking away the free scholarships, we're taking away the ability to get Social Security and all this. So they're sweeping through it and it's taking time, but I think we're doing all the right things. But it is going to take time. I would certainly love it to go faster and I would love it to be more than it is. But I have to give Trump credit that I think he's doing a lot of the right things to try and reverse this trend.
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I have a quick question. What is Vivek saying about all of this?
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Not much of anything as far as I can tell. In my opinion, he is absolutely high on his own supply of basically Silicon Valley thinking in a non Silicon Valley state.
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Okay, I get it.
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What that's worth.
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Yes, yes. So because everyone, Erica, he is.
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He is beloved across Ohio. He is beloved across Ohio specifically by working class white Trump voters, Republicans, conservatives, and, you know, if they call them. Here's why. Here's why. They come from an age of the civil rights movement, the sexual revolution, women's lib, all these sorts of things. Kumbaya, burn your draft cards, Vietnam. Okay. And you know what they call Vivek? They say he's our Obama and Vivek is their defense against racist accusations. Look, I'm not a racist. I like Vivek. Here's our selfie.
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So he's an empathy prop, too?
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Yes, yes. I think it's more so a. You ever. Scott had that crash out against Vivek. That was a delicious. Yeah, he had a crash out against Vivek. That was one of his. I would love to like, like Scott's top 10 crash outs. There was the other Erica. Right. Famously. And then there was against the Bake. That was. That was.
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No, the other Shelley, I thought was the other Erica.
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I thought there was another Erica also. There's the other Shelley.
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You know what? There might have been an Erica once, but there was. There were two Shelley's. That had nothing to do with Shelley, you guys. But this. Oh, I've got the Shelley one on a video. I can show you guys.
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Yes. Yeah, I remember. He said. He said it's not. He had to clarify. It's not. It's not our Erica. That's Erica the Excellent. That's the first time I heard about you, by the way. Is he called you Erica the Excellent to make sure that he was not talking about the other Erica.
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I remember now.
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He had had a rant on.
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That's funny.
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Yes. Yes, but, yes, I agree, Owen, that the incentive structures are the correct things to, to target, to initiate that self deportation. It doesn't seem to be happening en masse because the NGO administrative complex has, has, has said we are not going to cooperate. I have reason to believe Springfield Police Departments objective is non cooperation with ice. It's effectively a sanctuary city. From what I understand, there are a ridiculous number of churches who are Haiti first and they have explicitly agreed together to engage in civil disobedience and sheltering Haitians from deportation, assisting them, driving them around town, you know, all the things that it takes to get them driving. Which of course is now illegal because of the tps. If you're a tps, you can't drive anymore as of Friday. I think it's this Friday. You also can't work anymore. And yet these churches, these communities, organizations are saying that we're going to help them retain their employment and we're going to assist in that process. And so there's, there's this strange experience where they're effectively lying. When the media comes in, they want to, they want to tell Haiti first. They want to tell that side of the story because it's like all those racist white Trump supporters. Well, how do you know they're racist? Well, they're white and that is the key to the story. Every person who's been pilloried in the media, oh, you're racist for saying that about the Haitians because you're white. And when it's, when I say anti white, I don't mean some weird ethno nationalist business. I mean, oh, you said that you saw, you know, you said you saw that them skinning, skinning cats. Well, you say that because you're white and they're black. So obviously it didn't happen. And you're racist and therefore you're more Haitians. That's your punishment. That's your punishment. More Haitians.
B
And that's exactly a tired line. Like, it seems like we're past that to me or we should be. Like, it doesn't work for me. Like if someone is calling me a racist or saying that something is because I'm white or because I'm privileged or it's like I don't care. It doesn't, I just don't. It doesn't even register the way it used to, you know, for a lot of people. And I'm sure it still does for some people. And maybe, you know, maybe in the more rural areas, they are you know, still sort of in that mode. Just because it tends to be that a lot of the trends start in the cities and move across the country. But I, it just seems like, you know, I, I kind of laugh at these people when they say these things. It's, it's like just so ridiculous.
A
Yeah, well, and also saying, oh, you're saying that because you're white, that's racist. Like, hello, you're the one talking about skin color, right?
C
Yes. They're thoroughly, they're thoroughly critical race theorized because, well, darker skinned people can't be racist. Brown and black people can't be racist. Only white people can be racist. So you saying that that's racist against white people is in fact a demonstration of your racism, dear white person.
A
Yes.
C
Had a good reframe on this. He said that, he said that, you know, racist is a, is a, is a, is an anti white slur. It's a racial slur. Calling a white person racist is a racial slur. You know, I think he had one livestream. He called it the R word.
A
Oh, probably. Yeah. I mean that and it's true. And, you know, so you guys are reminding me in the chat. Yes. Walter Kern, his advice to all of us. Because I said, what do we do? You know, how do we combat all this stuff? He's like, get in their faces. Like, stand up, get in their faces. Be the, you know, be a voice. Don't sit out anything say or say. I'm always saying that too. Like, it's okay. Like, you don't have to, you don't have to not be who you truly are. Like, you can be kind and considerate and still voice your opinion. But the point is, is we need to speak up more, more frequently. I've actually started doing that in a few different ways where I think I'm, and I think I'm doing a pretty good job. I am speaking up to people I might not normally have and just kind of getting information out there. I'm sure none of you are shocked that I use my voice, but. And also, like, I love that you said empathy props. Which also reminds me how Scott's like, call them your mascots. You know, like, oh, these are their mascots. He loved that word. As if he, if he had someone trolling him, he'd be like, oh, I have a new mascot today. So I just, I also like that, like, mockery is amazing. So. Oh, look at the, the NGOs, the, you know, whoever's. They have their little Haitian mascots. Like, oh, isn't that sweet? Mock them. I mean, mocking is Fun. But we can't sit idly by. And I, I'm hoping. Is there anyone in the chat you could be honest? Is there anyone in the chat that cares anymore if somebody called you a name, like a racist or a bigot or a. Whatever, whatever, you know, if, you know, if you do, let us know because I think anyone here would like, really help you get past that. I used to think like, oh my gosh, how could you call somebody a racist? It was like the worst thing you would ever call somebody, you know. And it just became so commonplace by 2016 that I was just like, okay, yeah, I guess we're all racist. And by the way, that kind of talk is creating a whole new group of racists because, like, now we've had it. So, Kevin, is that a yes for you? Not at all. Good. Okay, so let us know. And if anyone needs help with that and you want to do like a separate live stream one night, we can do that. Because no one should be affected by these words. Just remember, sticks and stones. But okay, Joshua, back to your story. Sorry.
C
Yes. So the concern that people have. I am alleviating concern about being called racist and whatnot and losing opportunities and whatnot because I've commissioned the first professional and academic poll of the people of Springfield on the matter of the Haitian influx. And if you look across the demographics, you do see the Pro Black alliance where the vast majority of black people that we polled in Springfield said that they have positive sentiments towards Haitians, that they support the influx. But if you look at the other racial demographics and other racial groups, far more negative on the matter of the Haitian influx than the white respondents were Hispanics, Latinos, far more negative, Jewish people, far more negative, and Asian people, and also various Asian, South Asian, East Asian and whatnot. Now, obviously there's fewer, you know, fewer of those in Clark county and Enfield, but I think it's notable just simply how negative towards the Haitian the sentiment was on other non white, non black people was not surprising, of course, because I also interviewed Dominicans, the people who share an island with Haitians, the actual Haitians and what it's like, who've been there, what do they see? What is their culture like up close and personal? If only you knew how bad things really are. Remember what Stephen Miller said. I'm going to paraphrase. He said a useful way to think about immigration is to look at the culture of migrants from a specific nation and ask yourself, would we like the reality of that culture recreated here? To what extent would we like them to Recreate their culture here and deciding whether or not we should allow them into our country. And again, open up Google Earth, go to Port au Prince street view, five, ten minutes, and you'll say, I don't want these socioeconomic factors anywhere near my kids.
A
That's right. That's right. Owen, anything thus far?
B
No. I mean, I agree with everything you're saying. I think it's just ridiculous that it's gotten this far. And I think, again, we need to just take away their ability to get jobs because they shouldn't be able to legally work. They shouldn't be able to legally do any of these things. And I think if we really just enforce the laws we have, I think that would be a huge step in the right direction. And so, yeah, I agree that, you know, it's, it's just, I think it is sort of a racial slur, like you were saying, in terms of calling people a racist. And it's a brilliant, brilliant reframe because it's kind of like a total flip the script sort of way of doing things. And, you know, I think we do need to reframe these things. And the other thing that strikes me is, like, how shallow these brainwashed people are. You know, they don't really. They've never thought through the argument. They don't have any facts. They don't have any connection to reality. They're just parroting talking points. Like, I listened to this Caleb Hammer, you know, financial audit guy who had this leftist person on, and, you know, it's supposed to be about, like, helping the person with their finances, but most of the show was just about all the woke stuff that this person believed. And like, it was just so funny because. And it seemed like she was a caricature of this. But, like, she would say, oh, I believe this, I believe that, I believe this. And I, you know, and he would just go one inch deep, Just one inch. Like, like, do you know any statistics on this? Do you know anything about this? Like, do you? Like, here's the reality. And she didn't know anything. She didn't know anything about anything. She, like, as soon as he questioned anything or said, where's the facts behind that? She had nothing. And it just, to me, it was a clear sign of, like, okay, this person was brainwashed. Like, this person was just told, here's what you're supposed to think. Yeah, not going through any of the real education of the facts on the ground or what's really happening or what really works or what really, you know, makes for a Good society. Like, the, you know, the person would say, I have these goals to, like, help people. And it's. And he would say, well, the way to help people is capitalism. And of course, she didn't like that, but, like, she had no counter to it because she didn't really have an argument.
A
Nobody ever does.
B
And that's. Well, I do think. I mean, I don't know, maybe it is. I'm biased because I listen to smart people on the right. But, like, it does seem like there were. There are a lot of people, like a Charlie Kirk or a Matt Walsh or, you know, a lot of people that sort of know what they're talking about. And, you know, Joshua, I mean, you, you know, you've done your research, obviously, for your book. You know all about what's actually happening. And if you had a discussion with someone on the other side, I'm guessing they would know nothing. They would know absolutely nothing about what really is happening and what really would work to make things better or to, you know, reduce crime, make things safer, make better integration, all these other things. They would have no real knowledge of any of that, and they would have no historical knowledge of what has worked in the past and what hasn't. It's just, well, you're a racist. And, and, like, that's where they're. That's where their logic stops. Like, it doesn't go any further than that. They have nothing to back it up.
C
Yes, but they have. They have a lot. They have a significant spread of negative emotions. Screaming, shrieking, violence. It's. It can get. It can get pretty rough. Pretty, pretty rough. And so the normal people, Springfield, they sort of live in fear in many cases, kind of put their head down, don't want to see it, don't want to. Don't want to be seen noticing it. A lot of people say, oh, I haven't. Oh, I haven't seen anything. Oh, no, it's. It's all fine. I haven't seen anything. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I'm just, okay. And then they'll go, but it was the strangest thing this one time. And then they tell this oh, my God story and then let them keep going if they know that they're safe with you and they. And they feel like you aren't. Haiti first. And then they'll just unload horror stories that completely contradict what they said previously because they weren't sure about you.
A
They were.
C
They were afraid. And yes, somebody asked, is it going to be security at the events in that, yes, Clark county sheriff's deputies will be there to protect me and to protect the people who are there tonight. Yes. The interesting thing about the Haiti first community is of course they use the Haitians as their empathy props. But I don't think they love the Haitians. I think they just hate the white working class that's there who they deem themselves the betters of. And I've spoken with volunteers, private individuals and families and couples who've helped out Haitians who have been scammed by their own people, taken advantage of and so on and so forth. By again, they're ethno narcissistic. Where we love our country, we love our people, we love ourselves, we're just the best. We're the best race, we're the best group. It's like Haitian supremacists or something. And then yet they're also the ones who are kidnapping, slaughtering each other back on the island and who are getting taken advantage of left and right by their own people is such a bizarre experience. The best thing that ever happened to Haiti is Erik Prince. He's one year approximately into a ten year plan to fix the country, which is good. He's been hired by the Trump administration and is working with some peacekeepers, peacekeepers from Kenya. So the idea is that by introducing effectively a total police state in Haiti that they can do to Haiti what Lee Kuan you did to Singapore. You know, taking this very low educated, low skilled, basically swamp island with shanties and turning it into one of the most successful city states in the world. And just about 25 years. So that's what Erik Prince's plan effectively is, I think.
A
So Eric's not looking for help from the Clintons in Haiti.
C
No, that was another, that was another grift, but pretty much nothing at all was done. Yeah, it's rough. And coming back to the matter of the Haitians and the people in Springfield and the volunteers, the people who have been volunteering and donating and bringing food and diapers, families and helping them get their heat turned on and paying the utility bills after it got turned off because the person that they were paying wasn't actually the electric utility. It was a Haitian scammer claiming he was wearing like a simple vest and a badge or whatever. It's just, it's third this, the third world gaze. I'm telling you, Third world gays make that popular as a reframe.
A
I love that. Yeah.
C
So these people who've been volunteering, helping, you know, of course they're, they're Christians but they're, they're actually good at being Christian. The people who are now protesting and showing up at all these events and rabble rousing and dropping every single accusation of the white people and showing up at all the rallies and they're, they're spitting on Trump supporters as a thing that's now happening in Springfield. You know, these, these, these, these various NPR Americans who were there, the volunteers who, with their own private time, resources and money who have helped the, the Haitians. When they asked these liberal protesters for help, they scoffed at them. They don't need our help. You shouldn't be helping them. What are you doing? They were, they were scoffed at. So we know that they don't actually love the Haitians because when they actually needed help, when they first got here the most, they were nowhere to be found. And in fact they said, I don't want to donate, I'm not going to help you. You shouldn't be helping them. Right. So I think the people who are doing the accusations of racism are simply projecting their own racism on other people. They tend not to actually have empathy. I think toxic empathy by Ali Beth Stuckey, suicidal empathy by Gad Saad. I believe both of these are wholly incorrect. They don't actually have empathy. They have hate in their hearts for people like them. And we see this in various polls. When you, when you look at one's self esteem across political and demographic groups, you notice that the only group that has self hate are white liberals specifically for their own race. We see this and 100%, Jack Bosobic and I, we talk about the anti whites, this, that and the other most anti whites are white people. And it's this group that you know, everyone else esteems themselves. Well like basically all black people think the absolute highest of themselves. Latinos. You see a lot of, a lot of Latin pride there. White people mildly proud of themselves. But when you, when you look slice it down only by white liberals, it's like just utter, utter self hate in there. So when they see empathy, what they're really doing is they're projecting onto other people. They look at, they look at, they look at black people and brown people and they say you're just like me. I would never kill a goose from the park, therefore you wouldn't either. That's what they do. And then they look at the person who says, for example, oh, you say that you saw that black person eating the goose in the park. Well, I would only say that if I were a racist because the black people are just like me and you, they would never do anything like that. What, you think Bigfoot's real? You saw, you saw. I bet you also saw Bigfoot steal up a duck in the park, didn't you? Huh? Huh? Huh? And that's how it works out. They are supremely closed minded and live in a reality free zone. But they get around enough, as Scott famously said on his live streams and in God's debris, that many people can have realities that fork so differently. A Hindu person and a Christian, and they can both shop in the same grocery store. They can work together and get along even though they believe fundamentally different things about life, reality and society itself and the best way to organize them and the afterlife and whatnot. And yet in the real world, you can kind of get along. But it's when you have these, let's say, clashes where they have two different movies on the same screen. And chapter two of Haitians of Springfield is called Two Springfields on one Screen.
A
That's right, two Springfields. All right. So, you know, it's just interesting what you said just in the chat, okay, White people, white people in the chat. I, I never think about myself as being white. So like when you're saying like, you know, yeah, I fully agree too. Like these woke left people are so focused on being white and apologizing for it. I don't ever even think about anything about anyone ever. But it's like, because that's the way I grew up. I mean, so I'm old enough that I remember when people would say like, oh, like, you know, we don't say the word made anymore. We say housekeeper and you don't do this. And like I was like in that era growing up so of like, you know, everyone's equal and whatever. So when I grew up, I was like, yeah, everyone's equal, fine, no problem. And then Obama came along and blew it out of the water. And now all they are telling you to do is think about your own race. Everybody's raised, what color are you? You're, you know, you're this, you're that. And I'm like, it's such a. So for anyone under, let's say 40 that thinks that this is real, this racism, it is so man made, it's so manufactured now. Like, you know, in the current day, because this was not a thing. This was not a thing until Obama, literally. So like all of us racists voted for a half black man. How does that work? Twice. So he won twice. But, but all white people are racist. Like make it make sense. It doesn't make sense. Do the math. So it's all bull. And if you're apologizing for your skin color or your privilege or whatever, you got to stop. You've got to, like, get yourself straight. You have some kind of problem because they're just telling you to feel that way. There's. There's nothing happening here. And it makes me crazy to see it because I lived in both worlds. And I feel bad for the kids today because they really believe this crap. And, and now, and now we are watching racism. I've never seen it in my life, you know, but my entire life until the last, like, 10 years, I cannot even believe that, like, we're talking about race and racism and reparations and slavery and, like, stop it. But, you know, now you're going to import the third world here and we're going to see all of their problems. And now we've got to. We got to feel bad for these black. And like, they're, you know, now they're the new people we have to worry about because they didn't have it as good as old whitey over here. And it's just like, what are we doing? So I don't know. I don't even know where my tangent, my rant's going, but I am so sick of it because I lived it. And it's so fake and manufactured and obvious that it's a grift and it's divided us. And also, Joshua, now I'm going to end up in the last spot that we were at, in the last show where we said we started to talk about replacement theory, and that's what we were going to talk about today, but now I'm ending with that again saying, like, it's all about replacing a nation. So now you have to come back again. I mean, anything on what I'm saying? Anybody? Feel free to get some last words in.
C
Yes, I think. I think the case is that the. In the same way that the Democratic Party transformed African Americans in America, blacks in America, into being 90 to 95 to 98 to 99% Democrat every single time they have that inbuilt loyalty by perpetually reminding them of grievances, if you're focusing on the negative, you're going to get more of that. And then you just have to simply say, vote for me because I'm black. I'm one of you. I'm going to take care of you. And then those, of course, tend to be the worst scammers among them, but because of the Tribal identification. And, and, and unfortunately there are certain groups that tend to be far more tribal as we see with the opinions of, of oneself and one's own groups. And so the result is you, you tend to have the, the more democrat an area it is, it is worse off for literally everyone involved on the matter who, who lives there and even particularly demographics. But I think, I think they realized, the Democratic Party realized somewhere between, between Clinton and Obama, they realize that they can recreate an ethnic cohort driven loyalty for the Democratic Party in the same way that they did with the, with blacks. Basically you can treat this group of people horrifically when you're in office. And yet as long as you perpetually say I'm for you, whitey's out to get you, they'll keep voting for you at 90%. And whereas with whites they tend to kind of go on both ways in the working class. And what about the unions? It used to be, but then they kind of went for Trump and populism started to be a thing. So, oh, it's just so much easier to just import people who we can make forcibly loyal to us in large cohorts. And I think it is, I think it is, it is implicitly anti white, but I think it is first a politically practical solution. Oh, we just import people, we make illegal immigration legal, we fly them into these communities that are largely white Trump supporters to replace them and via birthright citizenship, mass assignment and making it easier to become first a green card holder and then permanent resident and then make them a citizen and whatnot. You can very easily get ethnic loyalty for your cohort within, within your party. And we see that with the so called squad in Congress with various ethnic enclaves that they introduce, of course Rashida Tlaib with the Palestinians, of course they're always going to vote for her just because she's of the same ethnicity. You see this with Ilhan Omar being Somali and of course the Somali community is loyal to her. So this of course is the supranationalist idea, changeable and unfortunately, Vivek Ramaswamy has put this forward, the magic dirt hypothesis, which I've returned it. The Vivekian hypothesis, which as America is an idea, as Vivek famously said, you come to America, you become American magic dirt. The Vivekian hypothesis, of course it doesn't actually work, but that is a supranationalist worldview that most people in Silicon Valley possess because like, well, I'm that way. I get along with everyone who's of a different ethnicity that I work with not understanding how enculturation works. Acculturation, rather purpose driven missions can be a new identity, a new tribal alignment for people of disparate backgrounds. Not understanding any of this. They're just a little bit too smart for their own good, the super nationalists. And yet they don't notice what's right in front of them. That Haitians will always put Haitians first, regardless. But we don't do that in America. But when they become Americans and they have kids here, they can become American. And yet they don't stop being Haitian. And so now we have the clash where Americans have to integrate and assimilate to the Haitian way of life which was forced upon Springfield without a voice, without a vote, without their consent.
A
Wow. Yeah, it's amazing. Oh, and any closing words for us today?
B
Yeah, I mean, I think it's all been great. It always has disgusted me about politics, how a lot of the parties will, I think, intentionally never solve the problems that they say they're going to solve because they want to use it for fundraising and they want to use it to have a boogeyman and they want to say, I'm on your side, I'm fighting for you. But then when it really comes down to it, when they have the power, they don't do it. You know, the Democrats could have passed Roe v. Wade when Obama was in office. They didn't do it. And when they tried to pass it more recently, they intentionally went all the way to birth and said, where we want, no exceptions. All, you know, that they, they could have tried for the Roe v. Wade, but they didn't. Why? Because they didn't really want it to pass. They wanted to just make a point, make it a big issue and use it to divide people and push people to their side. And so I wish we could find a way to get rid of that dynamic going on in our political system and both sides do it.
A
Yeah, I agree. Joshua, good luck tonight. If anyone is, you know, in driving distance to get over there, do it. And I'll, I'll post the flyer again on my X profile so you guys can find it there. Did you invite Vivek?
C
Absolutely not.
A
So you don't want him there?
C
I mean, he comes, you know, it's fine, but you know, he's, he's, he's parading around, you know, doing his, doing his thing. But here, the bizarre thing about Vivek, this is my last 32nd bit. Vivek Ramaswamy versus Amy Acton, who I predicted was going to be like two years ago. The bizarre thing is that the Republican establishment in the Ohio State House will resist Vivek more than they would Amy Acton. RINOs, Republicans, and name only, absolutely love the validation of leftists. And because that's what Amy Acton is, they will be bipartisan centrists and compromise and give her everything that she wants, but they will resist Vivek to try to put on this thing of like he's Trump aligned. So we got to resist the MAGA agenda. So, so Republicans, they will just fall in line for Amy Acton. So I do not support Amy Acton, but I simply want people to know what's really happening in Ohio with regard to Vivek and the Vivekian hypothesis.
A
All right, good. So we obviously have to keep this conversation going. Joshua, it's so good. And you guys, thank you for the feedback. Everybody really loved this show today. I'm so glad. I love when we can just have a good chat. So the book is the Haitians of Springfield. It's coming out October 6th. It's going to be a Libra like me. And you can pre order it now and good luck tonight. We definitely want to hear how it goes and continue on with this. It's such an important conversation because Springfield is just a microcosm of all different places all over this country. So it's not unique. It's unique with the Haitians right now. But everyone's got their issues happening right now everywhere. So we will definitely follow up with. Joshua, thank you for the update on the book. Thank you for working on the Scott Adams biography. We cannot wait. And you guys, sorry Marcella had to work today. I never even said that in the beginning, but she'll be back tomorrow. Okay? So thanks you guys. Thanks Owen so much. I will play an Akira song after the show and if you guys have to jet, go ahead and jet. As always, we say thank you to Scott and Shelly for allowing this show to go on. We, we are so thrilled for everybody that shows up here and participates in the chatting. And even if you're just listening like we, we really look forward to this day. Owen has a meeting. He did tell me. So anyway, you guys, let's be useful. Think about what you can do in your own communities. Think about what Joshua is doing. Think about like Scott Pressler, all these people and just do maybe a little piece of it. Maybe get a group together and what can you help solve for your town and your country and your area? Joshua, you're just the biggest gem. I love you so much. I appreciate you always and let's have a closing sip to our beloved Scott. To Scott. Okay, guys, let's do an Akira song. And Joshua, if you have to go, no worries.
C
Sure thing. Thank you, Erica. Thank you.
A
All right, let's do oh, Beautiful World. Let's do Beautiful World. I'm in the mood.
D
Although the signing says that your happiness is not that affected by your environment, that's not true. Your happiness is totally affected by your environment. If your environment is a loving family, you don't think you'd be a little bit happier than if you were sitting all alone, your little apartment, like some of you are? I. I think it's absurd. Absurd to imagine that changing your situation won't make you happier. You don't think that going from poor where you're. You're panicked about eating to well off, you don't think that would make you happier because you didn't have to worry about starving? Of course I would. I guarantee it would make you happier. So, yeah, fix your physical exposure, meaning go outside, you know, make sure that you're around some beauty and then you're not looking at depressing rave things. I would even change my commute if it took a few minutes to go through a more attractive place. If you can look at it every day, it's better to expose yourself to the attractive route than the fast industrial route.
C
Sam, be chasing.
A
Oh, that was smooth, you guys. That was smooth. I love that. Akira is the bomb, you guys. Thank you so much. So if anyone needs to change your environment today, I love the idea. I do this often. If I have to go somewhere, I'm like, do I want to take the fastest route or do I want to take the scenic route? Take the scenic route. Leave. Leave 10 minutes earlier. Take the scenic route and safely enjoy the scenery and the environment. Breathe in the air. Notice what you're seeing. Take note of things. Don't just fly through life really fast. Okay. All right, so we'll be back tomorrow. The home team will be here tomorrow. You guys are the best. Thank you so much for being here every day. We really love and appreciate you. Okay, guys, see you later. Bye.
B
Bye.
A
Stella's hungry. Be brave, be safe. Crusher. You got it. Thanks. Allie, Josie, Goldie, Marianne. Yeah, you guys check out meaning wave.com. meaning wave.com. that's Akira's account. Okay. That's where you can purchase the Akira music, too. We just want to give them a little shout out. All right, bye, guys. Love you. Bye. Crank. Neuro. Bookish.
Episode: The Scott Adams School - 07/21/26 Joshua Lisec Returns
Date: July 21, 2026
Host: Scott Adams (A), with co-host Erica (B), guest Joshua Lisec (C), and occasional panelist Owen (D)
Theme: Viewing current events, immigration, and persuasion through Scott Adams’ ‘persuasion filter’; focus on Springfield, Ohio and broader U.S. cultural trends.
This episode features a return visit from ghostwriter and investigative author Joshua Lisec for a deep dive into immigration issues—especially the Haitian influx into Springfield, Ohio—and the connected dynamics of NGOs, media narratives, and “supranationalist” philosophies. The conversation explores cultural clash, political incentives, the role of empathy in public discourse, and the quest for closure after the passing of Scott Adams.
[04:29–07:35]
"When you rewrite an experience... going forwards, when you remember the memory... you are not remembering all those times that it happened. You [are] remembering the time you remembered it and it didn't hurt anymore, and now you are free." — Joshua Lisec [07:14]
[08:26–19:43]
“I thought I had a responsibility to my neighbors because so many people were relieved when they found out that the temporary protected status was going to expire... But then of course, there was a battle in the lower courts and all the way up to the Supreme Court and the people had that hope dashed for them.” — Joshua [09:23]
“If you don’t know what this looks like, pull up Haiti in Google Earth... Is that what you would like your neighborhood to look like? If so, import tens of thousands of Haitians there with no delay.” — Joshua [10:52]
[12:11–16:00]
“Start using that phrase, empathy props. Okay, so the Haitians of Springfield have been used as empathy props for the supranationalist NGO administrative complex.” — Joshua [17:33]
[22:49–28:33]
“Literally hundreds... said, Josh, you got to stop this rumor. They're all still here, they're all still causing mayhem. They're also... spreading.” — Joshua [23:38]
[28:49–36:51]
“They're thoroughly critical race theorized because, well, darker skinned people can't be racist... Only white people can be racist. So you saying that that's racist against white people is in fact a demonstration of your racism.” — Joshua [36:33]
[36:51–41:35]
“Mockery is amazing. So. Oh, look at the NGOs... They have their little Haitian mascots. Like, oh, isn't that sweet? Mock them. I mean, mocking is fun. But we can't sit idly by.” — Erica [38:05]
[39:30–41:31]
“A useful way to think about immigration is to look at the culture of migrants from a specific nation and ask yourself, would we like the reality of that culture recreated here?” — Joshua, paraphrasing Miller [41:07]
[41:35–51:45]
“I never think about myself as being white... all these woke left people are so focused on being white and apologizing for it.” — Erica [51:49]
[55:01–59:06]
“You can very easily get ethnic loyalty for your cohort within your party... you can treat this group of people horrifically... yet as long as you perpetually say I'm for you, whitey's out to get you, they'll keep voting for you at 90%.” — Joshua [55:20]
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