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Marcella
Wow, that's a sexy jacket, Owen.
Erica
Owen said he has an unlimited wardrobe budget, unlike us, Marcela.
Owen
I do.
Erica
So let me wait for the comments over here to kick in.
Marcella
Good morning. Ooh, what's that?
Erica
A Diet Coke on Celsius?
Marcella
It's a Diet Coke.
Owen
Might be neither one, but similar.
Erica
Oh, he won't divulge. Interesting. Okay, my comments aren't coming up, but I see that we're live. Good morning, everybody. It's a Monday again. How do we do it? How do we get here again? So, Owen, we were talking backstage about your wardrobe choice today, and I was like, aren't you hot? You know, because it's July. But you had a very good reason for your leather jacket black T shirt today. Do you want to tell the class?
Owen
Well, I just noticed the trend that, like Jensen Huang and. And Elon Musk are always wearing these leather jackets when they're giving their interviews. So I figured I should, you know, follow the masters and maybe I'll be a billionaire too.
Erica
Oh, tomorrow, everybody, black leather jackets. We're going in. I like it. Oh, and I like it. Listen, dress the part. Okay, you guys, welcome to the Scott Adams school. It looks like everything is going now. Good morning. YouTube Rumble, Spotify x and locals. So listen, my name's Erica. We're at the Scott Adams school. My amazing favorite people in the world, co host Marcella and Owen. It's the home team. I love you guys. So happy to be here with you guys today. I did I, you know, yester I posted that I missed you guys and that I missed all the beloves, and I'm like, oh, my God. I actually miss everybody right now. Like, I can't wait for tomorrow. So here we are. Scott's ready with a sip, and we have some fresh stories for you and a double whiteboard today. But first, then all you need is
Scott
a cup or mugger, a glass of tanker gels or sty in a canteen jug or flask, a vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee. And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better, except, apparently the riots. But we'll work on that. It's called the simultaneous sip, and it happens. Now go.
Erica
That was delightful.
Owen
Did we really have a summer full of riots? Yeah.
Erica
I mean, oh, my gosh, that was the summer of love. Now, yes, I do. Good morning, everybody saying good morning. Good morning back. I do have this weird feeling, like a little vibe feeling that something Good is coming, but I think it's going to be a lit. Just a little bit of pain just for a little short amount of time. But I think something good is coming. So I don't know that. I mean, take that out in the street with you today. Great. Good job, Erica.
Owen
Kind of an Islam's going away vibe or socialism is about to die vibe.
Erica
Well, I mean, it's. It's on the chopping block. Let's put it that way.
Marcella
It's more like Fauci's testifying on Wednesday. Foreshadowing.
Erica
All right, before Fauci, I just have to give a very, very special birthday shout out to my favorite one year old punch monkey. You guys, you know I love Punchy. He's our little macaque monkey living in Japan in a zoo. His mother abandoned him after he was born, and so he's been living in this zoo and they gave him a little stuffed animal to bond with. And he's grown so much in a year, you guys. And now there's other little babies at the zoo and he's like their big cousin and he's mentoring them and they're jumping on him and he's like, oh, these kids. But let's just take a quick look back at my little punch monkey who turned one year old yesterday. Look at him. Oh, that's his caretaker. And you guys, he's so soulful. He has so much personality. The only word I can think of with punch monkey is Riz. He's got the Riz, the charisma. Look at that little baby.
Marcella
How can you tell them apart once they grow up? Like, it must be hard or they must have like, well, lucky way of walking.
Erica
He's darker than most of them, so you can usually like see him pretty well. But he, I don't know, he just has personality. It's like he stands out. That's when he was a little, little. So happy birthday, punch monkey. He made the whole world fall in love.
Marcella
Oh, look at him.
Erica
I know. He's a good boy now. All right, there he is, the little birthday boy. Thank you for indulging me, you guys. Yes, Riz is short for charisma, so it's the Riz. Kids, I'll. I'll keep you up to date with all the lingo. No, I won't. All right, so Marcella, you said the magic word, which was fauci.
Marcella
Oh, is that the magic word?
Erica
Yes. Every time we say fauci, do you take a sip or a rip, Whatever you want to do. Yes. So Marcella, he is going to be, what, in Congress on Wednesday, right?
Marcella
Yeah. He's gonna. Well, allegedly. You never know what. You know, what his lawyers, what he's gonna do. He knows it's like sort of a. Not an. Not entrapment, but he knows that he has to be very careful what he says. Well, you always have to be careful what you say to Congress under penalty of perjury. But. But still, it's happening Wednesday, and Senator Rand Paul is always reminding him of that.
Erica
Yeah. I mean, so that's pretty amazing. So he was pardoned, but now when you come in with Congress, you're. You can't lie to Congress now. So the pardon, Marcella, as I understand, you know, protects him from anything he did. But if you lie to Congress, that's another. That's a separate issue. Is that correct? Okay.
Marcella
Yeah. Like, new crimes are not covered. Which one would be perjury, which is false statements to Congress. However, they could always try to say, well, it was a statement for back then. And so you can't get me for back then. But in regards to false statements, it's the false statement itself, not really what it's connected to. So that's why he needs to be very careful. But he could always take the Fifth, you know, which I'm sure he would. People have before. Before Congress, so.
Owen
Yeah, but it'll damage his reputation.
Marcella
Yeah, I think his reputation is a bit damaged already for how.
Owen
I just. I mean, with people who are more neutral, I guess. I mean, a lot of people probably have their mind made up. Like, he's got his fan base on the liberal left and he's got his haters on the right. But, you know, there probably are a lot of people who just haven't been paying attention and just remember him being on the stage back then and think of him as the savior of the world and, you know, but if they start seeing him pleading the Fifth, that might change things.
Erica
Can he plead the Fifth?
Owen
I think anybody can.
Marcella
Anybody? Okay.
Erica
I thought we all get a pardon. Okay.
Marcella
Not. Not for questions. So he doesn't need the Fifth. Four questions of the before. But he can definitely partake in the Fifth. He doesn't necessarily have to if it's connected to. But regarding false statements themselves, you know, at the time he's doing them. But in regards to things he did in the past, he's covered you do from 201414 to, like, when the autopen signed the pardon.
Owen
Marcel, you might know better than me, given your lawyer, like, I know there is some exception to the Fifth, when you have, like, immunity. So does he have immunity that would allow Congress to say, you can't plead the fifth. You have to answer.
Marcella
Yeah, there's certain things that he has to say, but he could always, you know, if he. There's certain things that are connected to the past where he can answer them. But you can always, like, you can always do it now whether it's going to be, you know, they're gonna do something, you know, where they're saying, no, you can't because you already got immunity. A pardon necessarily is not immunity in itself, you know, So I don't know. I'd have to look into it. I'll look into it before he testifies.
Owen
I'm sure it's also like a question because I think the pardon only covers federal crimes, not state. So he probably still is at risk for a lot of state prosecutions, maybe for some of those.
Erica
I feel like there is some twist. Marcel, you'll find out for us and then we'll. Yeah, we'll find out like Wednesday morning during the show.
Marcella
And then the issue of state versus federal. Most of things he did for every state can be considered federal. So that's the issue is that the. The states can try to prosecute him. However, most the issues that he would fall into, the issues that they would fall into are all federal issues. So they could move the state issue to a federal court. So that's why they have. That's why you don't see them doing it, because it's not possible unless you find certain crime, a certain thing that is only state.
Owen
Is there any chance he could just be cellmates with Luigi Mangioni?
Marcella
That would be interesting. Maybe you. You author your own reality on so.
Erica
Oh, my God, we keep saying that lately. Author yourself. That's what I told Mike Burt. Author yourself. Author this next chapter. Mike Burt. All right, so I do have a couple of clips. I mean, this. All right, so this man, Dr. Fauci, you know, wow, does he love himself? First of all, because now Senator Rand Paul has released the Fauci diaries. Apparently he was keeping a diary. And I don't know how he has it. I guess it was in the emails or in his computer. But he is quite taken with himself. I've actually asked Owen to. To read one of them for us since we like when Owen reads all the male parts of. Of the. The show here.
Owen
So Owen have like this massive portrait of himself in his office.
Erica
Yes.
Owen
Who does that?
Erica
Fouche.
Owen
But like nobody else on you.
Erica
I mean. Oh, yes, mine's behind this wall. So, Owen, for. For the class. I'm gonna pull up this one and if you could just, you know, take a listen to how Fauci's talking about him himself. Let me post it here. I'll make it bigger. Go ahead.
Owen
All right. I gotta lean in. It's still kind of small for me. All right. So it says a task force meeting. I stressed the problem about the PPEs being diverting to testing as opposed to HCWs. I also emphasize this strongly as the subsequent press conference. Again, we meet with POTUS after the TF meeting and in preparation for the presser meeting. Very good press conference. Big front page article about me. Appeared in the Washington Post. Very flattering. You guys are enjoying this, aren't you?
Scott
Yeah.
Owen
The situation with my national and international theme is explosive and really unimaginable. It is not hyperbole to say that today I am the most famous and talked about person in the country and one of the most recognizable peace in the world. Countless profiles on me in multiple media. I cannot even read all the things they are written about me since I am so busy. Seriously, POTUS seems to be enamored of me. Even though I am taking the spotlight away from him. We are developing a very unique and interesting relationship. The entire Secret Service corps is coming over to me and chatting. They let me into the first gate without even checking id. Everyone is worried about my health and welfare, probably because it is all over the place and I am almost 80 years old.
Erica
Oh, man, this man. So, yeah, he is a Twix. Twix, a sick twisted. I said a Twix. A sick twisted. So that's interesting. I'm going to bounce around. So just keep in mind this man, okay? And he loves praise being heaped on him. Now here's an interesting 20 second clip before the pandemic.
Scott
So you have malaria, tuberculosis, HIV.
Owen
These are things that are there.
Scott
And then the other thing that I aspirationally hope to be able to encounter
Owen
is the ability to rapidly respond to
Scott
something brand new, whether it's a brand
James Erdman III
new pandemic or as you mentioned, a
Scott
brand new attack upon us deliberately by bioterra.
Erica
I'm sorry, what? Can we just play that one more time just in case you didn't hear what he said?
Scott
Do you have malaria, tuberculosis, hiv?
Owen
These are things that are there.
Scott
And then the other thing that I aspirationally hope to be able to encounter
Owen
is the ability to rapidly respond to
Scott
something brand new, whether it's a brand
James Erdman III
new pandemic or as you mentioned, a
Scott
Brand new attack upon us deliberately by bioterra.
Erica
Interesting.
Owen
He needs to modify that with AI. So he's wearing a Nazi outfit?
Erica
Yeah, the little mustache, the whole thing. I mean, oh, my God. Like, you know, when you go back in plain sight, here he is. I mean, this man is insane. So that was by Ma. You guys, you have to follow Maz Moore on X. He has. He has great content. We love him. So, so here he is saying, like, oh, I, I, I, you know, I aspire to this. Like, I, I want to be in charge of a brand new pandemic or, you know, bioterrorism. I mean, that's pretty sick. You know, does he take his job seriously or is he just a whack? I don't know.
Owen
He probably was just reminiscing about as the good old days when he got to kill all the gay people.
Erica
Oh, yeah, that's. That's a good point. So, Marcel, I know you were talking about some of this stuff this weekend, but I. Oh, shoot. I deleted the wrong thing. I wanted Owen to read. Never mind. All right, so one more on Fauci. Hang on, guys, Let me go back here. Sorry, my clip got weird. Oh, but good news on Rumble, they have now allowed me to put captions under the videos. It's a new feature.
Marcella
You know which ones they are?
Erica
I do. If I could just read the font, that would be amazing. So here is. Hang on.
Marcella
Be dillian. I am the science.
Erica
Okay, you guys, sorry, for some reason, it's again wacky, but let's just go to this next clip. I think this is a compilation from our media about how they feel about Fauci.
Owen
The single most respected voice in the pandemic. It's Dr. Anthony Fauci, the man who's
Scott
become known as America's doctor.
Owen
The nation's top infectious disease expert, Anthony Fauci.
Erica
You are seen to many as a superhero.
Scott
Dr. Anthony Fauci, American hero and New York Yankee fan.
Erica
You've done so much for this country in terms of this crisis, so I really appreciate your insight.
Scott
Who better to give us answers that
Erica
we can trust than Dr. Anthony Fauci? Perfect person to answer our questions today.
Scott
Joining us now, Dr. Anthony Fauci. Dr. Anthony Fauci. Appreciate your candor.
Owen
Dr. Fauci.
Erica
Appreciate the candor. We appreciate your service to this country. We appreciate your service. Thank you for your service.
James Erdman III
Thank you for your service.
Scott
Greatly appreciate your service to America. Thank you for your 37 years of service, I believe, to seven presidents.
Erica
And thank you for your work over the Past year.
James Erdman III
The great news is you're sticking around in the Biden administration. We are so grateful to you, Dr. Fauci, for everything you do.
Erica
Thank you so much for everything you do. Thank you very much for everything that you do.
Scott
Thanks so much for the work that you do.
Erica
Thank you very much for the reassurance and as always, for all of your public service. Thank you, Dr. Fauci. Thank you for all your guidance. You thank this this past year, and it's greatly appreciated.
Scott
Dr. Fauci, on behalf of all of
Owen
our viewers here in the US and around the world, thanks very much for
Scott
doing what you're doing.
Owen
Thanks very much for joining us.
James Erdman III
Please thank your entire team as well. We are all grateful.
Erica
Get your rest because we need you. You are one of the busiest scientists in the country right now.
Owen
It is an honor to have some of your time to help us understand
James Erdman III
what is going on.
Owen
I know a lot of people have a lot of questions, so we appreciate your time, sir. We need people to continue to have faith in science. So thank you for your time, sir. Thank you for being straight with us.
Scott
Thank you for being able to come on.
Owen
You will always have this show as a platform, sir.
Erica
Whenever you can be here, we'll have you. It's always an honor to have time with you. Thanks for being here.
Owen
It's good enough for you, sir. It's good enough for me and my family. So thank you, Dr. Fauci. Dr. Fauci, thank you for keeping it straight. Thank you for fighting the good fight.
Erica
I am sincerely appreciative that you are not walking away from this post. You make us smarter and safer and better every day. Thank you so much, Dr. Fauci,
Scott
Dear.
Erica
Oh, tears. Right? So in case you're wondering who the most full of people are in media, you just saw them. Oh, my God.
Owen
I think he was. I think Fauci was also the most highly paid government employee. And that's probably not even counting all the millions of dollars of royalties that he got to keep secret that he was able to just, like, basically tell drug companies, we're going to approve your drug, but you're going to pay me a bunch of money.
Erica
Yep. Yeah, he. He is, or was the. The highest paid. He still has security. I think he has, like, security for life now. Paid for. Or did Trump get rid of that? I don't remember.
Owen
Trump took it away.
Erica
Okay. So, you know, it's just gross. It's just gross. Like. And you look at people like Chris Cuomo and, you know, forget his brother. How you know, his inactions ended up killing a lot of senior citizens by letting the nursing homes run rampant with COVID Instead of using the. The floating hospital, they had. They had this whole thing set up, like, in Central Park. I think that was. Catholic Charities did that. You know, and then Chris Cuomo, you know, since was like, I should have. You know, I should have done this. I should have done that. I'm taking Ivermectin now. Every day. I'm like, no, no, no. You don't get the Ivermectin. Like, you sh. Everybody, you and your boy Don Lemon, just shaming people every night, saying the most disgusting things. I don't know about you guys. Oh, Samaritan's purse. Thank you. Did Central Park. I don't know about you guys. I like. I don't care what Chris Cuomo says anymore. He's trying to, like, win new people over. No, no. I will not forget what they did. So, any comments about the media thus far, you guys? Because I can't wait to see how they cover or don't cover when he goes to Congress. Marcella or Owen.
Marcella
No, I mean, they're gonna. They're gonna make him the hero. Trump and the Republicans, the villains. I mean, that's just. That's just part of their. Either their brainwash or they. They might know more, or they're just, you know, that's. That's the. That's the. The story they'll present is that here's this American hero who is a doctor who saved so many lives during the COVID pandemic, and now he's being forced, you know, he's old and frail and forced to answer these questions, you know?
Erica
Well, when I see someone like Robbie Starbuck, who I consider to be one of the most decent human beings that we have out there, saying, you know, that jail is not good enough for this guy. After seeing, like, all the diaries and everything else, I fully agree. I don't. I don't care if he goes to jail. Like, there's absolutely zero sympathy. Everyone in the chat's writing Dr. Death. So here, I want to play one last clip on this, and then we're going to get to Scott. But this is. All right, you guys, I. I am assuming on social media, if you guys are on X or wherever you are, that you're following Katherine Herridge, okay? Because she is probably one of the only reporters that I just feel like never puts any kind of bias into anything. Like, she is just straight facts. She's great. So her. Her. Her News Channel. It's not really a channel, but it's called Katherine Herage Reports and you can find her at Katherine Herridge on X. So here she did like about a 40 minute video that you can find on her channel. Here's an expert, an excerpt. This is with CIA, ex CIA officer. He was a CIA operations officer and doing a Covid investigation. And they did everything they could not to let this guy say what he found. His name is James Erdman iii and this is just a quick like two minute clip, but take a listen here. You've seen the intelligence. What records and discussions should the senators focus on with Dr. Fauci?
James Erdman III
They need to focus on contracts, for example, agreements between agencies, health agencies, whether it's NIH, NIAID, HHS, those MOUs, those contracts and agreements and elements of the intelligence community. If we're talking about dangerous gain of function, which is exactly what we're talking about, and Dr. Anthony Fauci knew that was dangerous gain of function, you're going to want to take a look at the money. Follow the money. Where does that go? That is the first and most important step.
Erica
Is there evidence of financial conflicts of interest involving Dr. Fauci and his associates?
James Erdman III
I would say that that's a sensitive matter and that I can't go into too much detail. I will say there are issues related to financial impropriety and health officials that are currently being reviewed.
Erica
Can you provide any more detail?
James Erdman III
I wish I could. Other than to say that I think if you follow the money, you will definitely identify some things that at a minimum need. Need some exam, examination.
Erica
Did you see conduct that you believed crossed the line into potential criminal activity?
James Erdman III
With regard to Dr. Anthony Fauci, his involvement in trying to push a narrative into the ic, I don't know if that rises to a legal piece unless there's finances and financial investigation that goes along with it. In terms of potentially health officials or former health officials. Yes, I do believe there is evidence of financial impropriety that deserves additional attention. There does appear to be quite a few conflicts of interest that have been created by decades of this crossing of public health and biodefense. And Anthony Fauci, he had to know he's at the top of. He's been in federal government service for 50 years and 40 of it, give or take 40 of it, maybe 38 as NIAID director. And he knew who was getting what funds for what, what research.
Erica
Okay, a great lesson that Scott always said. And we continue to say follow the money. Right. Oh, and this guy, the, the whole 40 minute. I think it's 40 minutes. The whole 40 minute interview is really great. But so this guy, you know, first of all, I don't think he's suicidal, do you guys? He. He does not appear to be suicidal. But what do you think about what he's saying here?
Owen
Well, I'm guessing a lot. I'm guessing he probably knows some things that are classified or whatever, so they can. And I think that's part of the problem here is the lack of transparency, that there are all these, like, secret royalties agreements and things that. I think there was an attempt at least at one point to say we should, you know, have these things be public. But I think whatever regulations or laws are out there allow him to keep it secret. So they, they have all these secret agreements where he can get royalties from when drugs are sold or used, and nobody gets to know how much he's getting from that. And it seems just like, you know, I don't know how he got that kind of carve out or if, you know, a lot of other people are doing the same thing, but that doesn't seem like something should, that should ever even be allowed to happen. Like you shouldn't have anybody in a regulatory agency that's overseeing drugs and things like that that can directly financial benefit, financially benefit from those drugs being sold.
Erica
Right.
Owen
And, and, you know, at least you should know when it's happening and be able to say, how much money are you getting from this? I mean, who knows how much money you may have gotten from all the vaccines.
Erica
Oh, yeah. I mean, we're hopefully going to find out more. It just seems like they have a lot more information now. Marcela, I. Do you want to say anything about it or can I jump into the next thing?
Marcella
Just wanted to mention, you know, I'm always skeptical of any whistleblower on either side. That's all I can say. Once a CIA officer is always a CA officer, as Scott would say. So that's how I take it. I'm very skeptical of what this man is saying, that's all.
Owen
And what I would just say is that what I expect to see in these hearings is it's going to be Scott's two movies on one screen. You're going to have the Republicans like Grandpa, that are going to be grilling Fauci, and then you're going to have the other side rushing to his defense and apologizing for how badly he's being treated and calling him a hero. And then, you know, media will get out their D pads.
Erica
Yes, absolutely. 100%. It'll be interesting to see if anyone changes their direction. Although I did see somebody doing it, and I was shocked. I'll find it for tomorrow. All right, so you guys, I want to make sure we get to Scott's whiteboard and, you know, going through all of those Scott things that we have and, and his whiteboard lessons. I am telling you, nobody tried to tackle the issue of race or racism more than Scott. So that's why I think we were all like, oh, my God, this world is so stupid. Trying to pretend that he was a racist and said anything that was wrong, which all of us know the truth, but this one is we're titling, titling it beyond intersectionality. And again, you know, just, let's just take it in, and if we have time at the end, we're going to quick chat about it, but I want to make sure we get this in. Okay? So sit back and relax. I think we have maybe 13, 14, 15 minutes with Scott. Are you kidding? Let's do it.
Scott
I'm going to tell you where things are headed. You ready? Whiteboard time. Well, I'm old enough to remember as many of you are as well. Let me give you a clearer look here. When. If you're talking about discrimination, the biggest topic of discrimination was usually white versus black. So there was a time when it was just a white versus black conversation. But as you know, that was not good enough. And that eventually evolved into something called intersectionality. Now, if you're not aware of this term, this is. Intersectionality means that you might be discriminated against for more than one reason. For example, you could be black, but also a lesbian. So that's the intersection. And that's important because the problems of just being black would be different from somebody who's black and lgbtq. But let's say you could throw disabled in there, people who are differently abled. So you'd have a number of categories, and you could be more than one. You could be several things. Now, why is this better? Why is it better to look at intersectionality versus just to see things as race? Well, I'll tell you, your common sense is very clear on this, which is that it's not close enough that the people who have these unique problems have problems that are pretty unique. Right? If you're. If you're Hispanic and LGBTQ and you've got a disability, your situation isn't quite like anybody else's. Would you agree? You have some things in common, but your situation's different, so it makes sense. I think Everybody would agree left and right. It makes more sense to get down to some granularity. So suppose we wanted to improve on this yet again. So just looking at black and white, it was too big a category. You can't do enough with it. Go to a little more granularity. Well, you might be black and also this or this and also that. That's better, wouldn't you say? More granularity. Yeah, if you're going to fix a problem, you want to understand it as well as you can understand it. And this moves you closer to understanding. So what would be the next logical place that this should go? If we continue to be rat. People or actually person. Because it's individuals. Individuals. Now, if you understood discrimination and everything else in terms of individuals, which is really where this was getting to, it was getting closer to the individual. But if we go all the way now, we can really do something. Because if this is the problem, white versus black, what are you going to do about it? What's your plan to make that better? Well, there's some things you can do, improving education, et cetera, but doesn't seem to be working. So then getting to more granular. Well, maybe we can do something if we understand it at this level. But how about going further? How about going all the way to the individual? Because each of these individuals has unique problems. And it's not just their color and their sexual preference or anything like that. They're just different people. So how about creating a strategy that is the right strategy for each person, which takes into account far more than, you know, the discrimination. It takes into account where they live, how old they are, what's their parent situation, Is there a good school in your town? What's your personality? What's your character? What things do you need that you don't have? These are all solvable problems. If you give me an individual, they might not take my advice, but I can certainly tell them what to do. I don't know how to solve these other things. Like I don't know what I could do as an individual. But if a person is in front of me and they're not succeeding in life and they want to know how I could totally help that person. So I would say that the left and the right were accidentally heading in the same direction, which is the framing of white versus black wasn't getting you enough, what do you do about it? The instinct to go to the next level of detail was the right instinct. It's the right instinct. It just doesn't go far enough. You got to go all the way to what makes every person unique and then you can solve their problem. Now here's the persuasion frame on this. Do you notice that there's a whole lot of making you think past the sail in this, especially the white black model, but also the intersectionality model. They both have the same characteristic. The characteristic is they ask you to accept that this was the right way to look at it in the first place. If they're making you talk about, if they're making you talk about the difference between black and white performance or outcomes, then they've already made you think past the sale that this was ever the right question in the first place. You see that? So every time somebody gets you into a conversation of outcomes or differences in the average white or average black, they're talking about somebody who doesn't exist. There's no average white person. There's no average black person. There's no average person. We are not just different on race and we are not just different because we all have some different intersectionality thing going on. We are infinitely different. We are infinitely different. So if you accept any of these frames, you're accepting an absurdity that looking at the average of white people and the average of black people tells you something you could or should do something about. Do you know what I care about the average difference between any two groups? Nothing. I don't care. I have zero interest in fixing this average. Now that makes me sound like a terrible person, doesn't it? But the reason I have zero interest in this is that it's a trick and it gives you no solution. It only gives you in victimhood and transfer of money. It doesn't give you a system to fix it. So you have a goal. It's a goal. We'd like, you know, different groups to have similar outcomes. That's a good goal. But what's the system? The system you don't really have, let's say you go to the next level and you complicate it or go down to more granularity. It's moving in the right direction, I think. But it still doesn't give you a system. What are you going to do about it? All right, so you do have an Elbonian, disabled, bisexual. So. And they have different outcomes than the Asian American, I don't know, non binaries or something. So what are you going to do with that? That makes sense. That isn't discriminatory. But let's say you take it to the next level of individuals. So, all right, so individuals have different outcomes. So Scott, you keep complaining about systems. What's your system? Just because you divided it this way. Well, my system is sitting behind you. Right there. Now, these are two books that I wrote, but you wouldn't have to buy my books. These are both teaching you how to develop a system for your own personal success. So if you divide it by individuals, you don't just have a goal, but you have a system. Oh, there are self. There are basically skill development books of all kinds. There are probably 10 books that if you read all 10, your odds of succeeding are close to 100% right. Unless you get sick or you have some terrible bad luck. But if you just did the things that people who are successful advise you to do, and it might not be my advice, I don't call my stuff advice. There's a reason for that. But you have so many different sources for how to fix your individual problem. You also have an infinite number of mentors that would be willing to help. What can a mentor do? If you're looking at the world as it's black versus white, what does a mentor do? It's hard to be a mentor in that world. And the same with intersectionality. But the moment you say everybody's infinitely different and my problem isn't like your problem just because we're both Elbonians, I have a different problem than you do. As soon as you go to that, then the systems open up. Oh, here's the system for building skills. Here's a system for networking. Here's a system for improving your educational outcomes. Here's a system for studying. Here's a system for your fitness, because that helps you in every way. Here's a fitness for your diet, here's a fitness for your appearance. So until you get to the individual level, there's no system solution. And this cries for a system solution. That, ladies and gentlemen, is my whiteboard for today. And I would further encourage you, if you want this kind of frame to be the dominant one, that when somebody tries to bait you into a conversation about the average difference between black and white performance, tell them you're not interested. But tell them you are very interested in the success of any individual for which you could probably help with some advice. I mean, if the only thing you did is say, hey, you need help succeeding? Yes, I do. Well, I'm not much of a mentor, but I could recommend five books that would really get you going. So every one of you can be a mentor just because you know of a book to recommend, probably more than one. So do not buy into the frame of what the average non existent imaginary person is doing compared to the average non existent other person is doing. Just don't buy in. Don't let them make you think past the sale. Individuals are the only frame that's worth talking about. Everything else is political manipulation.
Erica
Love it. You guys, let's, let's get a light going. I love that because isn't that just what we all want? Like, we're so sick of hearing about these groups and categories and flags and this and that and it's just like, yes, everyone's an individual. Owen, I'm going to come to you first. I don't know, like he was just always trying to solve this problem and you know, have, have everybody just, let's just judge people on who they are.
Owen
Well, I think one thing I would point out is just that was a great example of Scott doing persuasion. Like, I mean, it was clear that he was trying to change the frame. He was trying to convince people to say, this is how you should look at it, not that way. And I think it's an example of the high ground maneuver where when the way he presented it, it's of course this is the right way to think about it. Like that doesn't make sense to do it the other way. And he even used embrace and amplify where it's kind of like, okay, we're taking this in, you know, intersectionality thing and just taking a step further and you know, it's an embrace and amplify sort of thing. So I, I like all the techniques that I noticed there. And you know, what I was going to add, which I think, you know, I was really saying, well, he's cut and talked about this, but at the end he talked about, you know, political manipulation. And I think that to me is a significant point because, you know, when I'm listening to it, I'm thinking, well, they, you know, their goal isn't to solve the problem. Like, it's, it's to create more problems and to create division and to try to convince people to accept those frames so that they are dividing people and getting into a fight with each other and trying to stir up things like racism and you know, all these bad feelings and making people feel like they're oppressed and then kind of jockeying for position to be like, well, I'm more impressed than you are because I have this and that. And you know, I think it was great how he sort of skewers the whole thing by saying, well, you know, okay, let's go down to the individual level, everybody has their own unique set of problems and unique reasons why those problems are happening. And that, you know, it doesn't make sense to pin it all on your identity, which really has nothing to do with you as an individual. Like, you know, you might be black or a woman or a man or, you know, disabled or whatever, but that doesn't define you. And it shouldn't. You shouldn't be defined by some immutable characteristic or even a characteristic that you choose for the most part. I mean, that's just one aspect of you. And so I think it makes a lot of sense. And I think he's, you know, doing, he did a great job presenting that in a high ground maneuver sort of way.
Erica
Nor should you be defined on one thing you did in your life. Like one bad decision, one great decision. I mean, it's the whole of the person.
Owen
And which bad decision are you talking about, Erica?
Erica
Not me. Never made one. Not me, sir. No, no. I was listening to Scott this morning and he was bringing up how people, you know, they're, you know, they're trying to go after Trump for things and they'd bring up the, oh, God, what was it called when he had that housing thing and they said they were discriminating against black people and it was like, oh, he's racist. They wouldn't let black people, you know, move into that area. This is like in the 70s. And it's like, you know, are you really going back to the 70s, to a business he had? Like, he owned it. So, yes, the buck stops with him. But he, he was never personally found guilty of having anything to do with that. Like, maybe the people in the company made bad decisions. But it's like, you know, if you're, if you're digging that hard to put, you know, a dark cast on somebody, you're, you lost the plot, you know,
Owen
and there were also lots of stories that are counter examples to that from the same time period where he would, like, help some black woman and give him a free place to live and all, you know, he would do all these things that just show that everything they were trying to pin on him was just a complete lie.
Erica
Yes, so true. Marcella, your favorite part about that,
Marcella
about what Scott said. Yeah, just that he said that individuals are, you know, that we should consider everybody an individual, which I agree, 100. If you look at phase one, phase two, the separation between black and white, there's always somebody pushing that and the persons that are pushing that are always making money out of that victimhood and Pushing that idea to different groups of people is the reason being is that there's money to be made out of it. So follow the money. Again, goes back to that. If there was no money in it, they wouldn't be doing it. So they know that they're individuals, but they push it. So I'm glad that he showed us and gave us reasons not to even go into the argument when somebody to talk about it.
Erica
I think this is great. Currently, from all of our platforms right now, there's about 4,000 people watching live. And, you know, if we walk away today and all just work off of that lesson of treating people as individuals, and if somebody brings up that argument to you about race or whatever, like he said, I'm not interested in that conversation. But if you want to talk about mentorship or whatever, here's some books that might help. I love that because it takes the pressure off of you if you're, like, nervous about, you know, like, I don't want to debate somebody or be argumentative or I don't really know what to say. He gave us the perfect thing. I'm not interested in that conversation. I do know some great books that will set you on the way. So I love that. Yes. Like Mark just said in the chat, 4,000 mentors, you know, watching right now. Then the replay will happen so we can all be mentors to people and to, like, keep this message going forward, I think. Yep. Being Scott's the Debris is a great way to keep being useful. Yes. The Alchemist by Paul Kaleo is a coelho. I always say Kaleo. I have a friend named Kaleo. But the Alchemist is such a great book, you guys, if you never read it. What I like about that one is it puts these ideas and practices in the form of a story. So instead of just, like, teaching you different thoughts and ideas and ways to think, it creates it into a story story so you can, like, picture it and see it unfolding. So it's. It's. It's a great thing that we can all be doing moving forward. And, you know, we have all of Scott's books, and if anybody needs book recommendations for a specific situation, you can ask anyone on here. You can ask the three of us. You can ask anyone, you know, during the show. There are so many great books that we can recommend to people. All right, so I love that. Anything else on that, Owen?
Owen
Well, I think it's, you know, also, I just noticed how he said, you know, I don't give advice. You shouldn't really talk about it as advice. I think my suspicion is, and I mean, he may have said this at other points in time, was that it's kind of like when you try and push advice on people, it never works. Like you just unless people ask for help that it's not even worth giving it. And people never seem to take advice like they, you know, hey, let me give you some advice. Nobody wants to hear that.
Erica
Right.
Owen
So, so it's when someone has a problem and comes to you for help, that's when you have an opportunity to point them in the right direction. But even then, it's probably better to say, well, you know, go read this book or do this other thing and make it not about, like you trying to push your personal perspective on them.
Erica
Right. So that's good stuff, you guys. All right, so we have just about 10 minutes and Owen is going to give us some rapid fire news because again, we don't want to go out in the world like suckers and losers. So Owen's going to give us just some, like little bullet points of things we need to know. And if Marcella or I feel the need to comment, we will, but otherwise, we'll let Owen run with it. Owen, take it away.
Owen
Well, on the border with immigration, there's a lot going on. There's a story that apparently in Houston, 260 criminal aliens have been arrested in the first half of July. So that's a lot for just a short period of time. So it does seem like we're making progress getting rid of the criminal aliens that are in the country. Looks like it was 259 arrested individuals and they had entered the US illegally a total of 535 times. So they're, you know, coming in multiple times usually. Meanwhile, you know, Trump put the executive order in to take away the TPS from the Haitians, which is the temporary protected status that allowed them to stay here.
Erica
And by the way, we talked about with Joshua Lysak.
Owen
Yeah. And that, you know, for anyone who's not familiar with the background of that, like, they were originally brought over because of some kind of earthquake, like, I don't know, almost 20 years ago. And they were only supposed to be here for some, like, six months or something. And they've been here like, I don't know, 16 years or it's like ridiculous how it's gone on. And so that's gone now. And it looks like ICE is actually starting an operation to get rid of those people. So I know that it sounds like there are some companies that are already complaining about how there's going to be a worker shortage, and it's ridiculous, but, you know, shouldn't have been here to begin with. And I think it'll be better when they're back in their own country and we can have Americans taking those jobs, so. But it does look like ICE is on top of it in terms of getting ready to start deporting those people.
Erica
Interesting. And they're like, just. Are they mostly in Ohio? I know Joshua said they're starting to spread out now, but it seems like that's where the bulk are. And also, you guys, if data centers and AI are an issue, well, will open up some more jobs by taking those people out now. So that'll. That'll open up the job market for people.
Owen
Yeah, the. The story says the operations are expected to focus on areas like Indiana, South Florida, and Ohio. So there are states involved.
Erica
Excellent.
Owen
So the previous Biden border chief, Mayorkas, is apparently getting a resident fellowship at Harvard. So, you know, you can get your mentorship from Mayorkas, but if you're a Harvard student, I'm sure they'll benefit greatly
Erica
from that or learn a trade. Okay. This is why trades people. You don't need Mayorkas indoctrinating your kids. Okay. Oh, I'm sorry.
Scott
Go ahead.
Owen
Shifting over to election integrity. Of course, I think most of you are familiar with the 6,5600 oopsie people on the New Jersey voter rolls, but apparently it's probably a lot bigger than that. I know there's a gop, like, Republican National Committee person who's saying that's just the tip of the iceberg. And there is another story out now that 75,000 non citizens were summoned for jury duty in New Jersey.
Erica
Yes.
Owen
And that, I think, comes from the same list. Right. Like, I think they typically take the voter rolls and then summon people for jury duty. So that would imply that it's a lot more than 6600 if they're non citizens. You know, there may be multiple categories of non citizens, but I'm guessing a large percentage of those are probably here illegally.
Erica
Can I just tell you? So there was a very long stretch of my life where I was called to jury duty, like, every year. And I'm like, how can they keep calling me to jury duty over and over and over again? Finally, I mean, I was. I was telling people where to go, what to do. Here's how, you know, you get your free coffee in there, the bathrooms around the corner. I was there all the fricking time. And. And Then someone's like, why are you going so much? You know, you only be, like, every three years. I'm like, no, I'm here every year. Like, the people in the office recognize me, everything. The couple of times that I got called up, like, into jury selection, when I tell you one of them, they bring the first 12 possible jurors up and they're questioning them, I swear to God, 10 of them did not understand a word of English. I'm like, how is this fair? How is this fair? Like, why do they not understand any English? Like, I didn't even put it together that they were here illegally, because I'm thinking you wouldn't be. But I'm like, how are. They're legal citizens who don't understand? Like, can you imagine if you were the person on trial and you needed a fair jury? And these people are like, I don't. I don't understand. I don't understand. And they weren't even, like, taking them off. They were just like, oh, you're fine. You're fine.
Owen
And it turned out, you know, couldn't you just have turned to the person when they asked you the question and said, no oblong glaze?
Erica
I mean, listen, I. I may have told a little white lie for one case because it was going to. It was really gruesome. And I'm like, I'm never going to be able to stomach this. So just once, I got myself out. But in all fairness, I went to jury duty, like, 400 times. And the reason was just like, when you go in a motor vehicle and you try to do something, they had, like, four iterations of my name, so they had, like a first initial, a middle initial, this or that, and for each iteration, they had. They sent me jury requests. So I was just telling, you know,
Owen
when they're guilty, it's in the eyes. You can see it.
Erica
Well, I was gonna have to do that at one point. I was gonna be like, oh, no. Like, I totally agree with this crime. I would do the same thing. Yeah, but it's. But the point is, it's like, we're so messed up with our record keeping. I'm sure it's not just New Jersey that, you know, the most important thing is to be able to get a fair trial, you know, from a jury of your peers. And my peers speak English, and they're, you know, American citizens. And what I was seeing was not what was happening. So it's a little shocking. Yeah.
Owen
Marcelo, do you get an exemption as a lawyer from jury duty, or do you have to get called up and then say you're a lawyer for where they reject you.
Marcella
No hablo ingles. So, technically, you cannot serve an attorney unless you speak English. So I'm sure all these people that were legal immigrants were pretending not to speak English, not to serve. I. I'm guessing that's the. Because you. You are not allowed to serve if you don't speak English. So that's why you would.
Erica
They were just like, you know, then they'd, like, re. Explain it to them like they were, oh, my God. And I was like, this is so crazy. Like, they were doing their best to keep them on there. I was like, oh, my God.
Marcella
Well, because they probably knew. This person probably does know, but they're pretending. So I would say, no, no hablo ingles, Marcella. You know, and so they'll be like, out of here. The fastest person I saw being kicked out of a jury panel was this lady. They came up, and you can use this if you like. She was like, you know, are you biased? It was a civil case. Are you biased for the defense or for the, you know, plaintiffs? And she goes, you know what? I will ask Jesus when. Who was guilty and who wasn't, you know? Or like, who's. She's like, thank you very much, ma'.
Scott
Am.
Marcella
You're out of here. So I was like, damn, I could use that. So, no, I. You don't get out of jury duty if you are a lawyer. But they tend to, you know, if it's a civil trial and they know that you are just a defense attorney, they kind of want to kick you out because you'll just, you know, be anti plaintiff. So they eventually boot you out. But not. Not technically, they don't. They usually want to. When you're impaneling a jury, you usually want to get rid of all the engineers. That's just. Sorry. Sorry. Engineers out there.
Erica
I also want to say on my. For my benefit and on my own behalf, that when my friends get jury duty notices, and they're like, I'm gonna get out of it. I'm like, that is so wrong. I'm like, it is your civic duty as an American. I go into a whole speech, a flag drops behind me, a podium comes, and I'm like, no, you're not getting out of it. I'm like, what if your son was on trial? Wouldn't you want someone like you in the jury? So I just want you to know I fully believe in jury duty and my civic duty. And I showed up every time that was my TED Talk. Okay. Oh, and any last minute other thing you could tell us. So we're not suckers and losers.
Owen
Well, Mike Lee is claiming that he's going to force a roll call vote on the Save America act before recess. So I think it was a X post from Scott Pressler that, that triggered this. And, and he first replied, I'll do it. And then he put out something saying, I do not consent to, you know, just letting this go and not having a roll call vote. So it looks like he's at least moving in the direction of putting people on record, which I think is great.
Erica
But wait, because they're going to go on vacation for the month of August.
Owen
Yeah, I just, Well, I, I, I suspect that there are, what, however many Republican holdouts that don't want to vote for this, and they're probably the ones that may be cheating themselves or at least think they'll benefit from not having this in some way. And they probably just don't want to be on record. Right. They don't want people to know it's them that's holding it out. They don't want to have anybody coming after them and saying, why are you doing this to us? And I'm, you know, so I think it is a good step to just say, we got to put everybody on record and say vote yes or no to this thing so we know who, where, where everybody stands. And I think they're probably avoiding it also because of midterms. You know, people who might be at risk might be just thinking, I don't want to necessarily have to take a side here if they're in some kind of swing state where no matter what they do, they might lose some votes.
Erica
Right. I, I feel like if they go on vacation, I'm going to flip the table. I'm just gonna flip the table. I mean, these people giving themselves raises, taking crazy vacations. We don't want to vote for what the people want. Like, it's so crazy. I am shocked by the amount of people in our chat who never got asked to jury duty. I have a friend who was a Marine. He's so patriotic. He's like, I've never been called for jury duty ever, and I want it so bad. That is so biz. Um, Owen, I want to see that roll call happen. I can't wait to see what happens. And what am I being told? There is a published calendar of Congress's vacation and holidays. If you haven't seen it, you will die when you see how little they work. Oh, yeah, no, I know. It is. It is quite a job. It's so good. You become, like, a multimillionaire, and you love it so much, you stay till you're 90 or dead. Oh, and by the way, I meant to ask this. Where's Mitch McConnell? Where is he? Where is he? All right, you guys. So we have come to the end of our very. Was our show okay today? Was it okay? Did we seem disjointed? Because I felt like, ah, today, even if you like this disjointed show, if you didn't, could you give us a like? Either way, just like it. If you loved it or didn't like it, we would appreciate it. So, Owen and Marcella, do you know where Mitch McConnell is?
Marcella
I'm assuming the hospital still.
Owen
I think Dr. Fauci is doing something to him.
Erica
Yeah. All right, well, you guys are very sweet, and I. I loved the chat today. Coming up with all the different iterations of my name was hilarious. Thank you. We will be back tomorrow, the home team, and there might be a couple of little days this week where Owen might pop in and out, but have no fear, he's going to mostly be here. And Marcella. Marcella, don't leave me. Marcella will be here, too. Okay, you guys. So as she says. All right, as always, let's say thank you to Scott and Shelley for allowing the show to continue. I said during the show today in the locals chat that I just feel like Scott's, like, sending down a beaming light, like, just because he's so overjoyed that, you know, in his last days, he just wanted to make sure we stayed together. And we are. And, I mean, it's such a gift and it's such a tribute for Scott and for all of us and the community and the family we built. And, you know, thank you for showing up for a show that is totally not what Scott did, but with the spirit of Scott and for all of us. So I. I think he's. I think he's happy. I think he's really, really proud of all of us for being together. It's all he ever wanted. All right, you guys, so let's have a closing sip to Scott. I will stay and play an Akira song. And if you guys have to jet, I get it. So again, closing sip to our beloved Scott. To Scott.
Owen
To Scott. And thank you to Marcela for filling in for me over the weekend.
Erica
Yes. Marcella rocked it. Thank you, Marcella. All right, you guys, let's do. Bye, Marcella. Okay, let's Do. Let's do. Do something. Okay? Since we're all going to do something today, let's go. We're gonna do something. Be useful and let's go. Let's go, Jane Lane. Ready to dance?
Scott
The phrase freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.
Owen
You've heard that, right, Janice? Grappling.
Scott
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. How about that college class you were gonna sign up for? How about that sport you wanted to get involved in? How about that motorcycle you wanted? Too dangerous, right?
James Erdman III
You're free.
Scott
You're free. Every one of you who is depressed and anxious, you're free. You're free. Because nothing you do will be worse than the way you feel right now. Do something. Do something. Dangerous. Psychologically dangerous. Take a chance. Put yourself out there. Flame out. Get killed. Just get smashed. Just go do it. You're. Freedom's just another word for nothing left to witness. You're free. Do something. Do something. Even just another word. Nothing left to live. You're free. Do something. Do something. If you want to meet people, here's the best way to do it. You have to join activities. There is no other way to meet people and inform lasting friends, friendships. Hear this clearly. There's no other way to do it. You have to join an activity. A club, a sport, a gym, an organization, a political movement. Nothing else. You can't just make a friend like good luck. You could try. Well, I don't think I've ever seen it work. Hi. You know, Bob, hearing good things about you, I think we could be friends. Doesn't work. Do something. Do something. Join a thing. Make a sport. Form a club of your own. Just go. Do it. You're free. Freedom's just another word. Nothing left to witness. You're free. Do something.
Erica
Do something.
Scott
Freedom is just another word. Nothing left to lose. You're free. Do something.
James Erdman III
Do something.
Scott
Why would you not form a club of your own? Because you're afraid nobody would come, right? What's the difference? You're as good as dead. You're depressed. You're anxious. You hate your life. You're thinking about putting that. But I can't say that here. But you're thinking about. Maybe life isn't worth it. You're free. You're absolutely free. Go have some fun. Freedom's just another word. There's nothing less. You're free. Do something.
James Erdman III
Do.
Scott
Sound freezing. Freedom is just another word. Nothing left to lose. You're free. Do something.
James Erdman III
Do something.
Scott
Now, I gotta tell you, I've used this technique a number of times, and, man, does it work. It really works. You're free. Just remember that people criticizing you are narcissists. They are broken. Don't let it break you. You've got some techniques now, and I think you're gonna be a lot better. Go get yourself some friends and you'll find your mental health problems feel a lot better.
Owen
Better.
Scott
Go get involved in something. Join a group. Form a group. Be the boss. That is your advice for the day. And I will talk to you.
Erica
Yeah. We're your friends. We're your group. We are family. I was going to sing the song, and then I'm like, watch me get dinged at the end of the show for singing we are family. So, you guys, thank you so much. We'll be back to tomorrow and oh, and I think I have a little special something for you guys this week. Owen, I got to get with you. Owen, too, because we have to still do our bitcoin live stream on Scott's thing. Yeah. Because I really would like to understand it. All right, you guys, say your goodbyes. Even 8,586. Thank you. All right, you guys, we'll see you tomorrow.
Owen
Bye, everyone.
Erica
Bye. Bye.
Scott
It.
Host: Erica (facilitator)
Co-Hosts: Marcella, Owen
Special Content: Classic Whiteboard Lesson from Scott Adams
This Monday episode of "The Scott Adams School" gathers the "home team"—Erica, Marcella, and Owen—to debrief the latest news through a "persuasion filter," celebrate the community, and deliver a special Scott Adams whiteboard lesson. Key topics include Dr. Fauci's upcoming congressional testimony, media hero narratives, potential financial improprieties, and, most poignantly, Scott Adams’ approach to solving discrimination and division through individualism over group identity.
| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|-----------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00–02:11| Show intro, wardrobe banter, community greetings | | 02:11 | Scott leads "Simultaneous Sip" ritual | | 05:45–10:23| Fauci's Congress testimony legal analysis | | 11:47 | Reading from Fauci’s diary | | 13:36 | Fauci "aspirations" clip | | 16:20 | Media praise compilation (Fauci as "America's doctor") | | 22:37 | Clip: James Erdman III (ex-CIA) "Follow the money" | | 28:12–40:05| Scott Adams' "Beyond Intersectionality" whiteboard lesson | | 48:30 | Owen’s rapid-fire news round | | 61:56–66:15| Scott Adams "Do Something" musical/philosophical close |
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