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Justice For Hailey part 21

Real Life Real Crime

Fri Mar 21 2025

Summary

Real Life Real Crime - Justice For Hailey Part 21 Summary

Introduction

In "Justice For Hailey Part 21," host Woody Overton delves deeper into the ongoing case of Hailey, a young woman whose tragic death has left her family seeking justice. This episode marks one of the final installments in the series, where Woody urges listeners to support the family's mission to ensure Hailey's murderer, Brooks, is indicted for murder.

Case Background

Hailey's case has been a focal point for the podcast, highlighting the complexities and apparent oversights in the legal system. Despite Brooks being convicted for moving Hailey's body and damaging police property, he has yet to face murder charges. Overton emphasizes that the initial determination of suicide by the pathologist was flawed, noting, "The pathologist...determined the shotgun was in the mouth and there was no injury to the back of her tongue" ([04:00]). This misjudgment, coupled with Brooks's inconsistent testimonies, has left the family and listeners questioning the thoroughness of the investigation.

New Developments

In this episode, Overton reveals significant breakthroughs achieved through persistent advocacy by Hailey's family. They successfully obtained critical evidence, including Hailey's blood-soaked sweatshirt containing hair and bone fragments. Overton discusses the improper handling of this evidence, stating, "They gave this all to Him... how many times did Brooks say he... bought and financed a car in minutes" ([44:55]). This evidence not only contradicts Brooks's claims but also supports the family's assertion of his guilt.

Family's Efforts and Persistent Advocacy

Woody narrates his journey to Atlanta, Georgia, where he met with Hailey's family to take on her case. The family's determination led them to secure the case files and gather compelling evidence that was previously overlooked or mishandled. Overton shares, "Ms. Barbara, is the mama who won't give up... we got it, and we got it to use it" ([27:04]). This unwavering commitment has been instrumental in unearthing new information that could potentially lead to Brooks facing the murder charges his actions warrant.

Interviews and Testimonies

Throughout the episode, listeners hear excerpts from conversations between Hailey's family and the victim's advocate. These interactions reveal the family's frustration with the lack of transparency and support from the legal system. One poignant moment occurs when the advocate explains the limitations of releasing evidence: "Any evidence that was used... everyone has to answer to somebody" ([21:35]). These testimonies underscore the bureaucratic hurdles the family faces in their quest for justice.

Conclusion and Next Steps

As the series approaches its finale, Overton outlines the next steps in the pursuit of justice for Hailey. He announces an upcoming live event at Southeastern Louisiana University, encouraging listeners to attend and support the cause. Overton passionately asserts, "There's not a person that I know... that's what a reasonable person can deduce from the facts in this case" ([45:27]). He calls on the community to continue sharing Hailey's story, emphasizing the importance of collective action in pressuring the authorities to revisit the case.

Final Thoughts

"Justice For Hailey Part 21" serves as a powerful culmination of months of investigation and advocacy. Woody Overton masterfully weaves together evidence, personal testimonies, and strategic insights to present a compelling case for re-examining Hailey's death. For those new to the series, this episode offers a deep dive into the critical aspects of the case, highlighting the relentless pursuit of justice by Hailey's family and the broader implications for the true crime community.

Notable Quotes:

Woody Overton ([04:00]): "The pathologist...determined the shotgun was in the mouth and there was no injury to the back of her tongue."
Victim's Advocate ([21:35]): "Any evidence that was used... everyone has to answer to somebody."
Woody Overton ([27:04]): "Ms. Barbara, is the mama who won't give up... we got it, and we got it to use it."
Woody Overton ([45:27]): "There's not a person that I know... that's what a reasonable person can deduce from the facts in this case."

Upcoming Events:

Live Show: Southeastern Louisiana University, Hammond, Louisiana on July 19th, 2025. Tickets are available with a special discount for listeners.

Call to Action:

Woody urges listeners to continue spreading Hailey's story, attend live events, and engage with the community to maintain momentum in the fight for justice. Your support is crucial in ensuring that Hailey's case receives the attention it deserves.

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Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast. As always, I'm your host Woody Overton and today we're going to be continuing justice for Haley. This is probably the next to last episode we're going to do for we ask for everyone's help before we get started if they're not sold out already. Y'all don't forget about the live Show Me on stage. Old School Original, raw and unscripted story at Southeastern Louisiana University in Hammond, Louisiana on July 19th of 2025 and the tickets on sale, the links in all our show notes of Southeastern. The University is handling the ticket sales force and it's going to be a great event. Get them general admission tickets. You know they're going to have alcohol vendors and food ahead of time and then I'll take the stage and do about a two hour show and then if you do the vip, there'll be a reception for that afterwards, right? And the first drink is on Woody, so that'll be fun. We're looking forward to it. Hadn't done one in a couple years, and we already got lifers coming in from all over the United States thus far, y'all. We have a room block at the home, two suites in Hammond. It's a brand new hotel. It's a year old. And you tell them you're booking with real life, real crime. I think Cindy will post the code or whatever it is, but you can call them directly, tell them, or use whatever the code is, and you get 50 off your room. And they have it blocked out for several nights. So if you want to come in and enjoy him in Louisiana, which is a fantastic town or city, I got a lot, a lot of history there. You want to come in? We're going to be there for a couple nights anyway. You want to come in and hang out and. And enjoy Hammond, then you can. I think it's like four nights blocked off, but you only have to choose the nights that you want to, right? So 50 off into home to suites. Brand new property, and it's minutes away from the venue. So that being said, hope to see you all there. Get your tickets while they last, and it's gonna rock. Now let's get down to Haley. So thus far, you've heard pretty much everything, right? And including all the lies that Brooks has told since the very first contact law enforcement had with him all the way through his sentencing hearing after he's convicted for moving her body and damaging, you know, the police property, etc. And I think he got 11 years in prison, right? But they never tried him for the murder charge. Y'all never, never presented it to the grand jury for murder. Because their pathologists, without having the correct knowledge, anytime you sent a body for an autopsy, the detective's always supposed to go with them, give them all the case facts. And that pathologist, when they're looking at the body, they'll take all those factors into account. Well, didn't happen on Haley's case. All he saw was shotgun in the mouth. Well, determined the shotgun was in the mouth and there was no injury to the back of her tongue. And in his experience, less than 1% of homicides occur with a barrel in the mouth without the damage to the back of the tongue. Well, they go back to him and they say, hey, here's all the information. And then he's like, well, you know what? That would have been helpful, right? So he changes his determination from suicide, which is what he said at first. When he didn't have the knowledge to undetermined. Okay, that's a huge win. And then you got to take all the other stuff, right? All this stuff that we've presented to.

Woody Overton (6:51)

We know it was a homicide. We know it was homicide, but we can't go against our guy because he said less than 1%. And again, the less than 1% don't have the damage to the back of their tongue when the gun goes off in the mouth. Again, she was what,.25 or something, blood alcohol volume. How do you not be passed out when that happens? But it's just a lot of stuff putting it all together, and we're going to present it at the end. What I want to do today is tell you about when I went to Atlanta, Georgia, to meet with the family when I decided I was going to take on Haley's case. And we met in the hotel and we recorded and y'all heard some of those. Yeah. Pretty powerful stuff, right? And they told me everything about Haley, from how she liked to eat corn to whatever. And then they told me about the relationship and what had hadn't happened and all. Well, when they were leaving the hotel, the one day I told Ms. Barbara said, look, why don't you go to the sheriff's office and just ask them to get the case file, say, hey, it's already been adjudicated, give me my dollar's case file. You know, I'm moving to Florida. That's because they were going to ask her. I said, tell them that you're moving and you want a case file. I just mean I didn't think any fucking way they're going to give this case file to him. Right. I just didn't believe they would do it. But they. So I'm going to play you a couple recordings. One is going to be an, an audio recording of them, Ms. Barbara going in and asking, et cetera. And you can see the stonewalling. And they weren't going to do it and what have you. And then they told her to leave and they were going to make a decision or give supervisor, whatever it may be. And then ultimately they called her back and they gave it to her. You know, Ms. Barbara, hats off to her. And Stella and Tyler being in there, pretty much demanding, you know, they were like, why won't you give it to me? You know, it's already been adjudicated and da, da, da, da. Oh, they. One of the things, when they got some of Haley's items back, they had. This is horrible, but they had some Haley's hair and like skull fragments in it. And Ms. Barber told that supervisor that you'll hear in the thing, and this is something they already had. Right. And he was like, well, I'm sure, I'm pretty sure they weren't supposed to give you that, but listen to it. And after that I'm going to the. So you're going to hear the request. And they went back and they gave them everything.

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All right. So you just heard it now. They've got the whole kitten caboodle. And that's what we've been playing for y'all all these weeks, is a lot of it was excerpts from the case file. But that. I mean, it's the police recordings, it's the. The interrogations, if you will. It's. It's Brooks's manner and. And all the lies and the jailhouse recordings and everything else. That's because she. Ms. Barbara, is the mama who won't give up. And she went in there, and by God. By the grace of God, we got it, and we got it to use it. And you've got to hear it all over the past couple months. Right. So one of the things I told Ms. Barbara to do in Georgia as a one consent state party, that I told her when I went to Atlanta, I said, from now on, record everything. Record every phone conversation you have with them, asking for updates and all that stuff. And, well, she did it. And I'm about to play some more recordings, but specifically, Ms. Barr is not pleased with their victim's advocate, was what I call them. And that. That lady was on the video when. And on the recording where she's asking for the case file, and she's pretty much like, you're not getting it. And then the suit, you know, got the supervisor, and ultimately they ended up getting it. But one of the things your victim's advocate is supposed to do is notify you anytime there's any kind of court hearing coming up against the offender who offended against your family member. Right. I mean, obviously, they can't notify Haley. She's dead. She's been murdered. But they're supposed to do that. And guess what? It wasn't being done. And so Ms. Barbara finds out about a hearing that's coming up where Brooks is going to court and the. She calls the lady out on it and the lady is pretty flippant towards her. It's pretty crazy the way that she responds, like, well, you know, I'm busy and da, da, da, da. And what. I'm gonna play it for you so you can hear her excuses. And you understand why Ms. Barbara has no love for that particular division or the supposed victims advocate. They're supposed to be given surviving members of the victim's family. Right. So I'm going to play that for you now. So listen to this.

Woody Overton (45:27)

All right. You just heard it. I mean, they. When they go to open the bag, there was an. Obviously a horrible stench. They're still. I hate to say it, but, I mean, it wasn't Brooks's matter that's on. That's contaminated this item, if you will. It's Haley's bone and blood and brains, and it's hard to hear, but murder is hard, and I don't know what else to say about it, but can you believe they gave this all to Him, I mean, they, you give them blood soaked evidence, don't you think? I mean, how many times did Brooks say he. Oh, I changed my sweatshirt or then he changed it to. Went in the room to change my pants and I came out and found her first, I think it was a sweatshirt. And I came out and found her and I went in and then he just changed. Later on I went in and changed my pants and I came out and found her. Well, he's fucking lying. He went in and changed everything, I would imagine because when you shoot someone in the mouth with a shotgun, you're going to get blowback on you, right? And the fact that they never id'd Brooks wearing this item of clothing. Don't you think it would have been huge if they could say, oh my God, yeah, that's the neighbor that saw him outside said, oh my God, yeah, that's the sweatshirt that he had on. Or the apartment manager. Yeah, that's the sweatshirt he had on when I saw him and it was clean. Or the people in the restaurant when he got thrown out of. Oh yeah, he was definitely wearing that, right? Because look, it was cold as fuck. I mean, you heard him talk about the pipes were bursting and stuff like that in an apartment complex. I mean, when they took him into custody and on the scene, he was in a short sleeve champion, basically a T shirt almost, right? You're not wearing that when you're sitting outside on the steps for how or long and the neighbor buck talks to you and you're not outside in what, 20 degree weather wearing a T shirt. But after, and then when the one neighbor hears the boom and it's 15, 20 minutes and there's nothing and then Brooks is running around the complex banging on doors, asking for help. A girlfriend had a stroke and he gets the one guy. You've heard it all. I just, we just released it re. Released it last Sunday so you would hear it again. Because we're coming to the end of this battle. Well, maybe not the end, but we're coming to the end of the storytelling part. And I don't, I don't know, man. I mean the. How does, how does the family end up with the bloody clothing that has hair or bone fragments on it or whatever? And I mean it's not in evidence. You know what I mean? That part that's up scorched and I don't understand it, but maybe it's not too late. Maybe when we list out everything in order and Ms. Barbara presents it to y'all to present to them, maybe they can still find the people who were working at the restaurant and say they could say, yeah, he was wearing that sweatshirt, right? Why would this blood soaked bone, hair filled item of clothing be just stashed away and never take, never used against him? I mean the, that would prove that he changed clothes after he shot her and he changed into the short sleeve T shirt. And man, it's just fucked up. It's just bad. But we're going to put it all together. It's important that y'all keep liking and sharing. We'll drop another episode. I'm not sure which one I'm gonna play yet. Probably one of his lies or what have you on this Sunday. Just, just to keep it fresh. So people, we get new listeners every day. I want them to be able to find it easy and then they'll listen to that one to be like, holy, I'm gonna need to go listen to the rest of it, right? And, and we're getting that every day. This case is growing and we need the numbers because you know, everybody has to answer to somebody. And you have nothing to lose by presenting new facts or all the facts together that you didn't have. You know, this detective didn't take the sweatshirt or this person, this investigator didn't find out that he was wearing this or you know, why did he go downstairs to get someone to call 911 when he, when he's told you all day long that they've been on their phones watching videos, right? Because their cable was out or whatever. I don't know. It's a lot and it's gonna be a lot to put together on the end. We've been working on it and Ms. Barbara and Stella Tyler have been giving me the list of things and of course I have it all in my head. But we're going to put it together. I believe next week's episode, I'm going to have the family on and we'll start to put together, probably take one or two episodes and then, then we're going to wrap it up and give it back to the powers that be. And my God, sometimes just got to bring some pressure. Not because me, I don't hate these people. I'm not mad at them. The, the. I think I know sometimes things fall through the cracks, right? I know sometimes investigations get messed up. I understand that. I do not think there is any criminal intent like some of the past cases that we work where people just lied. And I just think that maybe they bit off more than they could chew or they didn't have the totality of the circumstances to put together like we've been able to do through all this. Okay. And I don't know. I don't know. It would be such a great, great day. And the one. I've said it all along, the one great thing they didn't do was charge them with murder yet. And they were waiting on. They said, hey, you know, the murder charges never go away, and they're correct. And they were waiting for something to fall in their lap. Well, if what we give them isn't something falling in your lap, if you can't glean that together, then I don't know what to tell you. You can't put that together to present it before grand jury, then it is what it is. I understand you don't want to lose. I understand you don't want to go against your pathologist, but put 12 people, tell them the story in full like we have presented it, and let them make their decision. If they say no, so be it. But I can tell you one thing. There's not a person that I know, not a person that. Not a lifer that's listening to this, that knows exactly what they said, the cops and the DA Said this is a homicide. That's what a reasonable person can deduce from the facts in this case. It's the only logical outcome. Now they can what if themselves to death because I know they don't want to lose. I don't know they want to. And the one thing the guy said about, oh, well, if we take it to the grand jury and they say no, it's done. That's not true. The grand jury just tells you they need more evidence, and they. They. No, Bill, we're not indicting at this time. The murder charge never goes away. Now, if you take it to trial and you lose it, then you're done. It's double jeopardy, and that's okay. Ms. Barbara's not asking for anything other than Haley be given a fair shot at justice. I'm asking the same thing. I believe that all of you, after listening to all this, are asking for the same thing also, which is hashtag justice for Haley. Please continue to share it, and it's coming to a conclusion really soon. So I love and appreciate each and every one of y'all. Thank you so much for sharing Haley's story and all the comments and support and. And just really appreciate y'all. And I don't know that. I mean, I just. But I believe in justice too much. I just believe in my heart that this could be done. But nothing comes easy, right? You gotta fight for it and that's it. So I'm Woody Overton, you host a Real Life Real Crown the podcast, and until next time or ever, don't let me catch you down on Murder by you. Peace.