Woody Overton (Real Life Real Crime Host) (38:10)
For your free quote, go to selectquote.com that select quote.com select quote we shop. You save full details on example policies@selectquote.com the District Attorney's office, her probation officer and the presiding judge. After the court hearing she was ordered to be released by by Being given credit for the 30 days served in jail. Her probation was reinstated. I'm going to inject here, you notice it and say it was a public hearing. He didn't say it. When they talk on the voice recorder, it may have been. It may not have been. I don't know. I wasn't there. But I want to tell you this, as I know for. Well, I know for a fact. I know, according to other sources that told me, that Austin had in fact, worked as a confidential informant in the past for the sheriff's office. Okay? So when she asked to speak to the detectives, she comes out of jail. The somebody up there already had a bond with her. They had used her in a previous case, whatever it may be. All right, so then I know for a fact, unless the sheriff wants to call this a lie, too, that while she's locked up in the jail before she's released, that in the middle of the night or during the nighttime hours, she was taken by two detectives out of his jail. You heard him say on Sherrilyn's call, she was in my jail. And she's taken out of jail by two detectives, Taken to her parents residence. They witness her going in, and she got something in a box or a bag out of her closet at nighttime. And she tells the family members that it's. It's nothing. It's just a shirt that she's getting out. And. But obviously they thought enough of it at the time to take her out of the custody of the jail before this hearing. Now, where the. And I'm gonna go back to it here in a second. They take her out of the custody of the jail, bring her, escort her, bring her inside the residence. She goes inside and retrieves something. What it is, we'll never know. Right, But I. I don't imagine they were taking her to get her clean shirt. She had jail, a jail jumpsuit. The. You know, it's wildly speculated something. Look, if I witness a murder and I think one day might come back to. To bite me in ass or whatever, if I got something that can help prove my innocence, improve my story, and then I'm gonna hold on to it. That's a smart play. But whether it has anything to do with that or not, they don't mention anything about this. And I was told by family members this. So if. If not just Morgan Baggott and a hundred other people, The. The. In the names of the detectives and everything else, Deny that or. Since you're not investigating her murder as a homicide, what did you take her to get out of a residence in the middle or at nighttime. Answer that one. All right. The, the. The emergency room. Not, you know, I, I believe they probably did go and check it. And there's no record what they call a sane or sexual assault nurse coming in to do a rape kit. Again, I don't. But my personal opinion. I don't. I wasn't there. That I don't believe that part of the story. Again, I think that's building around to the meat of the matter. And the meat of the matter is in the sheriff failed to mention anywhere in this price release that, that Detective David Vance, at some point during this time when she's locked up, hollers down the jail hallway. And I've been inside that jail, and it ain't big, okay? And I, I. The room I'm sitting in is supposed to be a private room, but I can see inmates face, et cetera, in, in. You know, the great people there, they treated me with ultimate respect and all that. But the. If you holler down the hallway, get Austin the Banyan out, go take her polygraph, whatever the exact words were, but everybody heard it. And there's trustees in the hallway. Even when I went to get out of jail, the. I went out the wrong door, right? And they had to come get me, but there's trustees everywhere. And then cordon to detective David Vance what he told Morgan Baggett. And yes, Sheriff, I am considering the source of the information, but I have more than Morgan Baggett what he told Morgan Baggett was Austin the banyan passed her polygraph. She knew exactly what she was talking about. And when it came to Bradley being murdered, not his disappearance. Murdered. Now, does that mean she's telling the truth about the location? She's telling the truth about being raped. She's telling the truth about where the body was dumped. Hell, no, it doesn't. Absolutely not. The relevant questions on the polygraph would be. That wouldn't even. I wouldn't even conclude. My relevant questions on that polygraph would be, are you being completely truthful to me in your statements about what you saw happen to Bradley Stray on that day? Right. And that would be well defined ahead of time. About what? However, she said she saw him being killed in. In. At the killing moment. Not the, the rate, not the. That low. The location or whatever that. Are you being completely truthful to me and your statements about this? And we would have gone over it again and again. And that when I asked you that question, that's the only thing I want to pop into your mind is that actually Bradley being murdered? Okay. Then I would add an extra word or two to that question like on that day. Then the. I haven't seen a polygraph report. I'm purely speculating. I as a polygraph examiner would added a question to. Are you being completely truthful to me in your statements about everything on You've told me about Bradley's trace and that day I'm speculation. I bet you dollars a donut she failed that question. Or the y' all so many points to the positive on a polygraph you pass so many points to the negative you fail. If. If it's in between, it's inconclusive. Right. But just because that third question and being truthful about everything that happened that day, like you picked him up in the car and you know, you went to this abandoned house that. I. I don't think that's true. But this. Me. Me speculating this America, I can do that. But I don't think she would have passed that question if it was asked. But Detective David Vance, and I've heard it, heard it told Morgan Bagot that Austin o' Banion passed the polygraph and she is telling the truth about the murder of Bradley Str. Now, remember, this is when he still had diarrhea of the mouth and was talking to her every day. But here's where the problem comes in. It's not a problem on Morgan Baggott. It's a problem on Detective David Vance. I had numerous other people including. And I would. Sheriff, you can call them liars if you want to. And we go to court over this. I will break out the names the prominent citizens in your town, business owners, etc. That said Detective David Vance told them to their face that Austin abandoned past the polygraph and knew exactly what she was talking about in Bradley's murder. Okay. Fact that. Fact that I was told from that. That the Vance told them nothing to do with Morgan Baggett. That these different people that Vance bragging dociously telling around town Morgan Braggett knows what she's talking about. Pass the test. Knows what she's talking about. And Bradley Stracer's murder, not disappearance at the time. All right, I'm continuing on for a minute because I want to address the rest of Morgan. We'll get into all the. The. The that he said about me in a minute. Well, actually, I'm going to run out of time. We'll get into it next week, so. Oh, I want to back. Back to the hearing. Now. You notice that he Said and he said this to Cheryl Lynn on the phone, and he said it in his statement. It's a hearing. You know what a courtroom. And I don't know because I wasn't there, but a courtroom is. Is a public courtroom unless the judge ordered this, orders it shut. Now, I'm speculating. It's totally me. I have no knowledge of this. I'm just speculating. He said, present the in district court. Present during the hearing was her attorney, the district attorney's office, her probation officer and the presiding judge. All right? And they let her out. Get it. Was it a public hearing? Because if it wasn't, it would be. And this has always been my thought. Woody Overton, stall no one else's. The Austin is going to get out and she's provided information and she's passed her polygraph. She's cooperated, and I'm the detective. No shame about it. It's done every day. I'm going to let her out and I'm going say, you know what? Well, let's press and get some more information to get beyond a reasonable doubt to get a conviction. All right? And the I if the. I would love to know if this was a public hearing and the. If the. There's. There's an agreement, y', all between her attorney and the d. A and the probation officer. And he says and the judge decided based on that hearing to let her go. I would bet dollars to donuts. And the speculation but I would bet dollars to donuts is that that's with the condition that you continue to go and get more information or to. To prove, you know, I'm sure also said I can. If I'm out, I can get you more information. Right. And you again, speculation on my part. Bet you dollars donuts that happen. They use this confidential inform for the. According to your detective, she passed polygraph and the him telling multiple people this and you let her out. Whether it's 24 hours later or five days later, she's found dead and you call it a death. And I'm gonna get more to it later on. Why I can say otherwise. If she is let out to go and seek further information, then she's dead. Wow. There you have it. All right. All right, so let me continue a little bit more. And y', all, I'm gonna have to stop it for today. Moving on. A social media personality stated in a post that Austin's tongue was cut out, that her ears were cut off, and that her tattoos had been removed. All of this is completely false. Austin's tongue was intact, her ears were intact, and her tattoos were plainly visible. The very visible tattoos led to quickly identifying the body as Austin after the tattoos were compared to recent jail records which included certain significant identifiers such as tattoo scars, et cetera. Let's talk about this and I'm going to end it on this for today. So the social media personality, I assume he's talking about me and assuming he never listened to me, that because I didn't say any of this, this absolute fucking lie, you call it a completely false. I'm saying it's completely false. I never. Matter of fact, I clarified her tongue was not cut out. That. That her ear was cut off. I never said her ear was cut off. And that her tattoos have been removed. I never said her tattoos have been removed. These were rumors that were on the street. There is damage to one of her tattoos. There is damage to one of her ears. It's a hug out of it. The end. If we have to go to court and show the photographs and let a jury decide or let a judge decide. I don't care. The I didn't say these things for. And so for you to imply that I did say them, you, sir, are false or you're getting, as I'm sure you've been getting along all along, shitty information from your people. All right. The and let me ask you this. As a cop. I know my frequent flyers. I certainly know my confidential informants. I certainly know a. A lady in a small jail like that. That's where your booking room is in. In Vernon Parish. You bring them in there. You, you know, you arrested these people. And there's no secret about it. Austin had been arrested numerous times through throughout her life. Right? You know who they are. Why do you have to use tattoos to identify? I guarantee you anybody in uniform patrol would have known who Austin was. All right? And the if there's no damage to her face, there's no damage to her body, there's no. None of that. The why can't you just simply pull up her driver's license photo? Right. Okay. I would have known it was Austin. And I dare say that whoever responded detective wise damn well knew it was Austin. If they go to jail to match tattoos, good police working in case somebody showed up and they just miraculously made detective in Vernon Pears. And they never knew who Austin the bany was. Although you not only took her for a polygraph, you take her out of the jail in the middle of the night. You've been interviewed or re interviewed or. And and you know, been in court X amount of times, etc. All right, continue with the chair. There were no significant visible life threatening injuries to Austin's body. There was no visible evidence of any knife wounds or gunshots. I never said dick about a gunshot wound or knife wounds. Okay, and but him to say there were no significant visible life threatening injuries to Austin body. Come on, man. Now you're a doctor too. And I know you weren't at the autopsy. And you know, you. You responded to the scene and you found her. How? And I can't get into today y'. All. And he lists. You all read it. But I will, I will cover it. You respond, response is seen. You see her in the condition that she's in. And who are you to say whether any of those injuries were life threatening or not. If, if you knew that, why'd you send it for an autopsy? It's just another overdose, right? And he clearly stated Cheryl in. No, it wasn't a homicide. She wasn't murdered. And you clearly state that use. There were no gunshot wounds. I agree with that. No knife wounds and no significant visible light threatening injuries to Austin's body. Sheriff Kraft, I want you to come back out and dispute this. I want you to dispute the fact that you told Austin the banya's daddy she didn't have a mark on her. That didn't come from Morgan bag. Well, it came from Morgan Baggot but that. It came from a lot more people from Morgan Baggett. And I'm not going to say their names because they have to live there and they're living with this nightmare. That's the shit show that's going on every day because they loved us. Come back and say that you told that man she didn't have a scratch on her and then, then now you're easing back in. Well, no significant visible life threaten injuries. No, you said not a scratch on her and the cartel wasn't involved. And I'm going to end with this call conspiracy theory, whatever you want. And I got so much more to cover, y'. All. Then I'm gonna take it step by step. And it's just like when I was going radio silent and putting up La Luna Bell. The psychic stuff. Yeah, I know that shit's out the box in the. You know, you could take it for what it's worth. But you know what it did? It kept people talking. And that's why ultimately where I'm sitting here talking about the sheriff actually making a public response after six years because of outside the Box like that. I never said I believed a word Lunabelle said. I didn't say I didn't. But I don't know all the. She was talking about. And the. To be honest with you, I didn't even listen to all of it. But evidently everybody else did. But that is a means to an end. And I always, always preface it with. I don't know if any of this is true or not. But it kept you talking right? Now, back to the sheriff. The. And look, the next part of the statement y' all goes into the horror of. I did. I don't know how to cover this today. That. You know, I might add one more paragraph. All right, One more paragraph. The. And then I'm gonna stop for today. I know I'm ranting and I'm raving. All right, so they said back to the sheriff again. If there were no significant visible life threatening injuries to Austin's body, why didn't you just do what we always did on the scene, have the coroner stick him with the needle? If it came out and had all this dope in it and you were calling an overdose. Let them rule it on the scene. You suspected something because you sent her for an autopsy. All right, but yet you tell her father she didn't have a scratch on her and the cartel wasn't involved. Now, when the largest meth bust at that time in burning Parish happened, the man that got arrested. It's a matter of public record. And it's a matter of public record Morgan Baggett's daddy was there that day. He got arrested too. At the time was the largest meth bust ever in Vernon Parish. This guy went on to work as a trustee. And I read this to y' all in past episodes and or to be such a good person in Sam Kraft, Sheriff Samcraft's eyes. Sheriff Sam Kraft wrote a letter in support of him asking, you know, basically for his sentencing to be as low as it could and gave them raised and attaboys and what have you. All right, okay. You know what? The prosecution prosecuting that saying, look, this dude's been doing this and he's directly related to the Sonola cartel. And no, we want him to do hard time. And because it's been an ongoing criminal organization. Right. But Sheriff Sam Kraft says he's a good dude. His own parish goes against him. The judge go against him, and they. And they give him a significant amount of time. But to let. It's in the appeals. Go look it up. I think his name is Russell Cole. Louisiana vs. State of Russell Cole. It's in there. And they talk about sheriff Sam Kraft writing this letter for this guy. But they all talk about how they went after his ass because he was working for the cartel. Fact. Last thing, I just don't want to get off this. But last thing for today, back to the share he says continuing the entire area of the trailer park where Austin was discovered was immediately cordoned off and treated as a crime scene. Interviews were immediately conducted with the residents residing in this area. Okay, that's what you. How you work. Homicide scene corded off. You interview all the witnesses, right? And, but you, you said there visibly there's no life threatening injuries to or anything else and what have you. And you sent her for an autos but you know you're working in it as a homicide so you could prove otherwise. And I'm end with this. A nearby residence was determined to be the residence that Austin traveled to when she left the Pickering area the day before her death. A search warrant of that residence led to the rest of the occupants, Shirley Brown and Anthony Carpenter, both were arrested for illegal narcotics that were located within their respective bedroom. All right, stopping there, but I'll say something about that. What he doesn't say is and I have hours of phone conversations with Mr. Gordon, okay. And what he doesn't say is she went there and she sometimes stayed there and shared a room with Gordon and Chloe. And Gordon says she was there that night. But guess what else Gordon said. And I hadn't played it yet, but the sheriff opened this box of worms because he. They. Now look, this couple was arrested, y', all. And they, they. But they, like so many people do in the drug world, they'll split the. The residents. And you pay this amount of money and I'm gonna pay this amount of money. You go do your shit and I'll do my right. It was pretty much proven that they, they investigated these people they arrested for dope. They didn't have anything to do with her death. Now Gordon says that that Austin was there right up to the point where they left. But he said she was acting strange. And I'm paraphrasing, said she was acting strange. In fact, he offered to give her dope, offered to give her methamphetamine. And he said for the first time in her entire life, she refused to be given dope by him. I don't mean the shot. I mean, hey Austin, you want to get high? You want to do some meth? Austin said, no, no, I don't. And according to Gordon, they when he and Chloe left, then, you know, never saw her again, and she was murdered. Well, guess what? Also, according to him, they hauled ass out of town, I think to Shreveport or whatever. The. But that's not mentioned in there anything about that. Then he's very adamant about in. In. It's on several different phone calls. He's very adamant about the fact that he offered to give her dope and she refused and that she wasn't high. Figure it out. But next morning, she's dead, right? But you say there's no injuries. She's dead. And Gordon and Chloe are in the wind. But you go and, yeah, the people that were staying in that room, if. If I'd have had something to do with Austin's murder is what I'm calling it. If I'd had something to do with Austin being dead, I'd hauled ass, too. But the. I, you know, you had to know the cops were going to come knocking at some point and they're going to find your drug paraphernalia or whatever they find on you to rescue. But you know what? That couple wasn't worried because they didn't have anything to do with Austin's death. Right? First time ever, Austin refused drugs from him. Now, let me tell you a little something about confidential informants. Back to my point of whether it's a public hearing when she's released, because the damn sure and in the court records that were sent to me. But the. The. When you sign up as a confidential informant, specifically, go work. Or like, I want you to go get Joe, Blow this. This meth cook. Da, da, da, da. I know you're friends with them. You might bust somebody that has a little bit of meth and say, look, I'm gonna help you out with this, but you need. If you want to work it off, right? And they make them sign a form saying you are not going to use any legal narcotics, you're not going to commit a crime, you're not law enforcement, blah, blah, blah. But you have to sign that. Basically, it's a contract, and it covers the sheriff's office ass. You have to sign that, and then you released and you go and you're going to have contact. And I mean, it's not like tv, y', all, where they're going to wear wires and shit. By this time, everybody would add a cell phone you could record on or whatever. But if you go out speculation, my part, if you're a confidential informant and somebody offers you dope, you have to turn it down. If you're trying to fulfill your mission. Because otherwise, when. If you fulfill it and you get Bradley's killers brought to justice based off your. The extra evidence, now you're going above and beyond to go get. And you get it. A defense attorney is going to say, you know, they're going to attack your character. You're a dope head. You've been a dope head. And weren't you high this night? Well, if you got high on Gordon's, then all they got to do is put Gordon on stand and say, yep, I gave her dope wash or smoke it or shoot it up or what have you. But it neither here nor there. Gordon Cloud and Chloe were gone. What about the interview with them, Sheriff? But Austin. Yeah, it gets into the really tough parts about. And it's really. I don't understand. I understand that the. In my career and it was our policy also if somebody committed suicide or was a drug overdose, we never did a press release. Never. Just to keep it out of the knees and out of respect for the families. That's the way it was. And if after all these years and again, I never said her tongue was cut out. I never said she had bullet holes. I never said her ears were cut off or anything like that. The. In the. In the end for you to come out and ends and say everything and. Which I'm gonna dive into next week. That. That's so degrading about her death. Which is actually the truth, y'. All. I mean, they not. He's actually given it as a truth. According to Sam Kraft, what his people told him and. And what he observed. All right, but he. I'll end it with the last one after. I'm not going to read all this bad stuff this week. But it said, he says, and I quote, none of the noted injuries would have resulted in Austin's death. Now, wait a minute. Noted injury, Sheriff, What'd you tell her dad? And I want you to tell me I'm wrong on this, just like I want you to tell me I'm wrong on your detectives taking Austin to residence at nighttime and retrieving something. The. You didn't have a mark on her and the cartel wasn't involved. Now it's. None of the noted injuries would have resulted in Austin's death. And y', all. He describes everything that was on her and his hypotheses of what happened. I'm gonna go ahead and read this. This is going to be over. I don't want to end it on that. So I'm gonna read this next three paragraphs and then I gotta stop it for the week. Back to Sheriff Kraft says the Vernon Parish Coroner's Office responded to the scene to assist an investigation. The coroner ordered that Austin's body be transported to Forensic Medical Management located in Beaumont, Texas for an autopsy. Why? If she has no visible signs, no nothing, which is what her daddy was told, not a scratch on her. All right. This autopsy of Austin's body revealed that there were no brain injuries, no gunshot wounds, no stab wounds, no physical trauma to the throat area and no broken bones and no sexual trauma. The report billed a 3 quarter inch laceration to her right knee. The report also revealed a minor injury to her scalp. Okay. Evidence at the scene shows that Austin fell from a raised porch at a nearby mobile home, striking a metal cage that was situated on concrete pads beside the porch. The porch was approximately 4 to 5ft high. Human feces was found smeared on the door of the residence, the floor of the porch, as well as upon the person of Austin. None of the noted injuries would have resulted in Austin's death. But she didn't have a scratch on her. You sent for an autopsy. And the next week I'm gonna get into again his version of his interpretation when the autopsy comes back. I already read you the official report and we'll get into that. Then I'll get into the. The attacks that are made on me personally about the hacking and shit. Just shit he's saying in there. He's saying, I'm saying shit that's blatantly false. I'm saying he's saying shit that's blatantly false that I never said. Okay? And in, you know, justice for Bradley, justice for ao never going to get off of it. The one way you want me to shut the fuck up, the one way to get me to shut the fuck up is solve the case. Well, I know you're not working Austin's case. You're going to stand on that. You're going to stand your ground and say that was an overdose and we'll continue with that next week. And prayers for her family, prayers, prayers for her kids, prayers for the people that have to read that. That you're saying basically she was rolling around in her own shit and smearing on the walls and the porch and everything for. She falls off in, in five feet, you'll fall five feet and. And all you get is a little scratch on your knee and a little abrasion above your eyebrow. Oh yeah, well, I saw pictures of those and whatever. How do you know she fell five feet from the Porch, where's that witness at? And all to address speculation because I wasn't there, and I don't know what's in the neighborhood. I must have had 50 different people tell me about these ring door cams, and the sheriff's office took them. I don't know if that's true or not. Maybe that's how they know she fell off the porch. But wouldn't it be much fucking easier to show that Austin was by herself high as fuck in failed her death? Obviously it doesn't exist. Yeah, and me, I don't care. I don't care. I'm going to address it. I don't care what they say about me, all right? And I don't care what they twist. And there's so many people that haven't listened to the podcast and. Or it's been seven months now, and they're only remembering certain things about the podcast, but I will address each one. I know what I said, what I didn't say. All right, I'm address my shit. But shit like on the phone call about drug dealers and all they got to do is pay their taxes and they get off. To me, that's ludicrous as well. But every day I get shit that's ludicrous. I get everything. And that's another reason, like, I did a lot of Luna Bell because I'm digging into shit just to make up episodes so you all would keep this at the forefront. This is what's so important. Because when the heat's on, people have to do their jobs. And so Lulu and Bill, I did an episode on just the. Some of the. Some, like not even five or six of different variety tips that are called in every day. Everything from fucking aliens to legit shit. But it's all got to be investigated. And, you know, I don't. I don't agree with everything. And when I'm silent, I'm silent for a reason. And in just one guy did a post on social media saying, oh, I feel like the momentum of the cases is not there anymore. You know why? Because the last two weeks, I haven't released an episode. If I had to release an episode about more tips that are called in, of course all those voices were altered and everything on the. On those cases. Or I would release an episode of another psychic saying, whatever, even though I preface it with I don't know, you know, if any of this is true or what have you, you know, what it had done. It would have kept people talking. Well, you know what? Thank you, Sheriff Sam Kraft. For releasing your statement because you just thought they were talking before. And I can only imagine the blowback that's coming now. I want justice for Bradley. I want justice for aa. We already know they're never going to admit to anything unless I can prove it. On Austin's case. All right. And beyond a reasonable doubt. And then on Bradley's case. We'll dive into that next week. And I love and appreciate each and every one of y'. All. Patreon of convicts you're getting this Thursday. I don't know what time yet. It has to be edited. The All Lifers will get it Saturday at 12:01am Patreon comics. You get a commercial free and all that. And I appreciate your support and thank you, Everybody. That's called IN313RLRCTIP. Not gonna stop. And Sheriff Sam Kraft, I thank you for your public press release. That's genius. Thank you. And taking the public's phone calls, that's love. All the stuff. Searching for the bodies and all that stuff and whatever. That's police work, y'. All. I'm wrapping up this episode of Real Life Real Crime, the podcast. I'm Woody Overton. Until next time or ever. Don't let me catch you down on murder by you. Peace. Yeah. The right remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You got a right to an attorney prior to it during any question. If you can't afford one, the court appoint one for you. Do you understand your rights? And the wolf is at your door you running over that's for sure. You already knows all about you.
