Real Life Real Crime | Justice For Bradley ep 28

Summary

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Real Life Real Crime | Justice For Bradley ep 28

Host: Woody Overton
Date: January 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode continues Woody Overton’s deep dive into the ongoing “Justice for Bradley” investigation, with specific focus on Woody’s direct response to Vernon Parish Sheriff Sam Kraft’s recently released public statement about the Bradley Striester missing persons case and the death of Austin O’Banion. Woody addresses the details of that release, defends his own reporting, and examines the controversies, rumors, and truths circulating on social media about the investigation and the Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office. The episode is marked by Woody’s trademarked blunt, unfiltered style, a meticulous breakdown of law enforcement communication, and unwavering commitment to pursuing justice for both Bradley and Austin.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Sheriff Kraft’s Press Release Response

(04:16–08:27)

• Woody analyzes Sheriff Kraft’s explanation of Austin O’Banion’s autopsy results, which showed lethal levels of methamphetamine and Zoloft. Woody reads out, reflects on, and questions the thoroughness and transparency of these official statements.
• Woody criticizes the sheriff's claim that social media posts inaccurately alleged staff were required to sign NDAs (non-disclosure agreements) regarding the Bradley and Austin cases. Woody clarifies he never stated it as certain fact, only reported that multiple sources mentioned it.
  • “I never said with a thousand percent certainty that you did it. I said with a thousand percent certainty that people were saying it was done.” (11:44)

Non-Disclosure Agreement Controversy

(08:27–11:58)

• Woody details his investigative process:
  • He had his attorney formally request any NDA paperwork via a freedom of information request.
  • The sheriff’s legal response categorically denied any such documents exist.
  • Woody invited VPSO employees to contact him secretly if they had been made to sign NDAs, but none did.
• Woody repeatedly stresses the fine line between reporting tipster rumors and stating verified facts, emphasizing his transparency in that distinction.

The Hacking Allegations Debunked

(12:01–14:31)

• Woody addresses rumors that a Department of Corrections inmate, “Danny K,” hacked his online accounts. He explains widespread online speculation but firmly denies ever personally accusing “Danny K” or the sheriff’s office of involvement:
  • “You never heard Woody Overton say Danny K is responsible for doing this...I never even implied that you have someone that's educated enough in computer skills to hack all my shit, period.” (13:20)
• Woody notes the real-world consequences and online rumors that swirl when true crime cases heat up.

Law Enforcement Data Misuse and Social Media Speculation

(14:33–17:50)

• Sheriff Kraft’s release mentions the recent arrest of a former Allen Parish deputy for numerous counts of illegal dissemination of confidential law enforcement database information. Woody confirms this misconduct, but clarifies the “social media personality” involved is not him but another named Morgan Baggett from the “Criminal Conversations” page.
  • “He's 1000% correct on that...I try to, but when I was looking at the stuff on that criminal conversations page, I was like, holy fuck, how are they getting this information?” (15:58)
• Woody discusses the legal and procedural changes in law enforcement regarding access to personal information and stresses the seriousness of these database violations.

Handling Rumors and Defamation

(27:57–32:20)

• Woody methodically rejects the sheriff’s accusation that he or his podcast ever intentionally spread malicious or false allegations implicating the sheriff’s office directly in murder or criminal misconduct.
• He admits, however, that poor police work and detective errors have likely damaged the agency’s reputation and frustrated the investigation.

Defense and Critique of Detective Vance

(29:50–32:22, 47:02–47:59)

• Woody criticizes Detective Vance for unprofessional conduct during the investigation, including leaking information, public comments, and procedural blunders. He shares secondhand stories and recordings from community members, but clarifies these are claims he cannot independently verify.
• Woody reflects, “There's a lot of recording sheriff of Detective Vance saying shit that, that if anybody a detective worked for me and that was said and, and these things were done in this investigation, well that detective wouldn't be working for me anymore. And I stand by that.” (32:08)

On Social Media Pressure and Law Enforcement Integrity

(37:10–40:19)

• Woody agrees that public pressure should not force law enforcement to make hasty arrests or solve a case just to “shut people up.” He underscores the importance of achieving “beyond a reasonable doubt.”
• He cautions against wrongful arrests and false closure, reminding listeners that “justice is not about that.” (40:15)

Willingness for Open Dialogue

(40:19–51:42)

• Woody offers to sit down with Sheriff Kraft for an unedited, unscripted podcast discussion to clear the air and strengthen transparency.
  • “I would be more than willing to sit down, do a podcast with you and you know, I know it's not going to happen...But if you want to, I’m available. I'll come to Burnham Parish again and do whatever and you can say your side, right?” (41:22)
• He continues urging the community to keep sending in credible tips and reiterates his dedication to investigating every substantial lead until justice is served.

Final Thoughts and Call to Action

(46:59–51:42)

• Woody affirms that his criticism is directed not at all law enforcement, but at “bad cops” and “stupid police work” which may have hampered the case from the outset.
• He encourages listeners to call in their tips, assures families he will not stop pursuing justice, and expresses optimism that with sufficient credible evidence, the case may finally move beyond mere probable cause to “beyond a reasonable doubt.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I never said with a thousand percent certainty that you did it. I said with a thousand percent certainty that people were saying it was done.” — Woody Overton (11:44)
• “You never heard Woody Overton say Danny K is responsible for doing this...I never even implied that you have someone that's educated enough in computer skills to hack all my shit, period.” — Woody Overton (13:20)
• “He's 1000% correct on that...I was like, holy fuck, how are they getting this information?” — Woody Overton (15:58)
• “There's a lot of recording sheriff of Detective Vance saying shit that, that if anybody a detective worked for me and that was said and, and these things were done in this investigation, well that detective wouldn't be working for me anymore. And I stand by that.” — Woody Overton (32:08)
• “Justice is not about that. You don't want that in the that I'm...certain there are some cops that do that...but I don't want that done in Bradley's case. I don't want that done in Austin's case.” — Woody Overton (40:18)
• “The constant thing I've said over and over again is you want me off this case, solve it. Right. But don't. Don't solve it at the expense of an innocent person.” — Woody Overton (40:24)
• “If it ever goes to court...I will produce every piece of it. And...the sheriff's office attorney will have to get these prominent citizens...But I don't think it's gonna get that far. You know why? Because I didn't say anything that I can't come with receipts for. I have the receipts, okay?” — Woody Overton (33:09)

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Important Timestamps

• 04:16 – Woody begins deep analysis of Sheriff Kraft’s public release.
• 08:27–11:58 – The NDA controversy: Woody details the FOIA requests, legal denials, and rumors.
• 12:01–14:31 – Addressing hacking rumors and Woody's denial of circulating them.
• 14:33–17:50 – Law enforcement database misuse; confirming the non-involvement of himself with leaked data.
• 27:57–32:22 – Woody pushes back on claims of “malicious” rumors and outlines his cautious, evidence-based approach.
• 32:20–32:22 – Detailing secondhand reports and audio concerning Detective Vance.
• 37:10–40:19 – The dangers of public/media pressure influencing investigations.
• 40:19–41:22 – Open invitation to Sheriff Kraft for unedited podcast dialogue.
• 46:59–47:59 – More criticism of police work and the importance of proper procedure.

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Episode Tone

Woody’s narration is direct, candid, and occasionally exasperated. He combines careful, experienced analytical reasoning with the intense emotional drive of an investigator who is both an insider and outsider. He expresses empathy for the families, frustration with law enforcement missteps, and an unwavering faith in truth-seeking—always maintaining integrity as both a voice for victims and as a critic of poorly handled cases.

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Conclusion

In this pivotal episode, Woody Overton methodically deconstructs the official narrative, sets the record straight regarding rumors and accusations, and restates his commitment to seeking justice for Bradley Striester and Austin O’Banion. Throughout, Woody clarifies his role—not as a rumor-monger, but as a relentless, ethical investigator determined to avoid shortcuts, wrongful arrests, or the easy way out. The search for truth remains ongoing, and Woody invites listeners to be part of the solution by coming forward with real, verifiable information.

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Tip Line: 313-RLRC-TIP
Woody Overton’s closing message: “I want justice for Bradley. I want justice for AO. And I'm going to stay on them until it gets done. I hate bad cops. I hate stupid police work...But when it gets beyond a reasonable doubt, that's when justice can finally happen.”

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For anyone invested in the case or the true crime community, this episode provides vital updates, clarity on persistent rumors, and an unwavering reminder that only credible evidence—never gossip—will lead to justice.

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[Woody Overton]

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[Woody Overton]

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[Woody Overton]

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[Woody Overton]

Warning this episode of Real Life Real Crime. The podcast may contain descriptions of acts of violence or that of a sexual nature and should be for people that are 18 years or older. He my warning people, I do not get the facts of these cases off of the Internet or for some television show. The facts I'm retelling you were presented to me by the victims of the crimes or or the perpetrators who committed the crimes against the victims. My descriptions of the crime scenes, what I saw with my own two eyes. If you're going to get offended, please turn this podcast off now. Thank you. Hello everybody. Welcome. Step so the Real Life Real Crime the podcast. As always, I'm your host Woody Overton and today continuing with hashtag just for Bradley and the hashtag justice for ao also Banyan and going to be continuing my direct response to the public release that Sheriff Sam Kraft, the sheriff of Vernon Parish, did in response to Bradley's missing persons case is what they're calling it. All right. And Austin's death and last week when I left you the I was telling you about Austin and the feces and falling from the porch and what have you. Then they sent her for the autopsy. Now I'm going to pick up directly from Sheriff Kraft's continued statement, right? And talking about the autopsy, it says, quote, the results show a concentration of methamphetamine and citrulline or zoloft this combination has been shown to cause many conditions to include fever, excessive excessive sweating, hallucinations, increased heart rate, changes in blood pressure, seizures, confusion, muscle spasms, tremors, incoordination, stomach cramps, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. This combination of illegal narcotics along with these symptoms have been known to cause coma and sadly, even death. Okay.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

The Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office does not.

[Woody Overton]

Make any type of social media post or issue press releases in any type of death investigation unless the death is a homicide. This is done to protect the privacy of the family and as a sign of respect to the decedent. All right. Well you posted it now. Right. So and I understand, you know, you feel in the heat and you have to come out and do this. This press release. All right. Continuing. This press release says social media posts have been made in reference to bones that were found by the Sabine River Bridge. These bones were retrieved by a VPS deputy. Photographs of the bones were sent to LSU faces, Forensic anthropology and Computer Enhancement Services lab. And they ruled these bones to animal bones. Bradley's mother was advised of this fact. Right. Exactly what you're supposed to do. Somebody turns in bones or calls in bones, go collect them, verify they are or not human bones. Right. You did your job. Then it says social media posts have also stated that I ordered all VPSO employees to sign a non disclosure agreement preventing all employees from speaking about Austin or Banion or Bradley Striester. That was me absolutely 1000% the but I did not, I did not say that with certainty that he did it.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

I had gotten from four different sources.

[Woody Overton]

That said they had to sign non disclosure agreements. Okay. And as investigation part, how can I verify it?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

But to say put it out there.

[Woody Overton]

Just like the rest of the stuff and I preface it with I don't know. And you know I wanted. If you're an employee of Vernon Paris.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Sheriff's office and he made you sign a non disclosure agreement, contact me putting it out there.

[Woody Overton]

The no one wants to go on the record about it. Right.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

So you know what I did?

[Woody Overton]

I did this next part and the continuing from the release from Santkraft, a Pineville, Louisiana attorney. That's my attorney all Thomas Davenport mailed.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

A freedom of information request to me.

[Woody Overton]

Requesting a copy of the non disclosure form.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

I responded back through the attorney for the Louisiana Sheriff's Association.

[Woody Overton]

This response was a categorical denial that any such type of paperwork exists. Just another complete false statement made on a social media platform. Let's get it again. No one wanted to go on the record so I can't prove it one way or another. Well, what's one way to prove it? Have an attorney submit the public information request and then if you deny it and someone comes forth and gives a sworn statement that says you did it, that you in fact did make them do it, then you would be injuring public records. That's a crime. Right? And so with looking into it, trying.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

To prove it or disprove it, just.

[Woody Overton]

Like everything else in this case and y', all, you know, 85% of it is rumors, right? The I believe.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

So I have Tommy Thomas Davenport send that in and we get the response.

[Woody Overton]

I read it to you on an episode. He denied it.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

And then I had Tommy resmit another.

[Woody Overton]

One to not because he says all that.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

I. I said he made all sheriff's.

[Woody Overton]

Office employees sign it. I was like, well, maybe a play on words, Tommy. And Tommy was like, you know what?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

I'm a reword and send it back in. Have you ever had any. Not all.

[Woody Overton]

Any one sign a non disclosure agreement. And that lawyer responded and said, absolutely not. And guess what? I can't. And then I was like, okay, I.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Read it to the people.

[Woody Overton]

And then, you know, I'm saying, if he had you do it, and now he's denying it, come forward and we'll get you sworn in, we'll take your testimony and we'll present it to the powers that be. Didn't happen. So guess what? That's another dead end into the investigation of trying to find out what the fuck's going on in Vernon Parish in these cases. So I never said with a thousand percent certainty that you did it.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

I said with a thousand percent certainty.

[Woody Overton]

That people were saying it was done. Okay? And to this date, I don't have anything to dispute the sheriff's claim that he didn't do it.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

All right, it says a short time later, the.

[Woody Overton]

The statement, y'. All. A short time later, Danny K was.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Accused of having hacked this person's account.

[Woody Overton]

That's me, y'. All.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Danny K is a Louisiana Department of Corrections inmate and has been housed at.

[Woody Overton]

The Claiborne Correctional center since March 14, 2025, and is still currently housed there.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Mr. K has been incarcerated since July 21 of 2024. Neither any VPSO employee nor I had.

[Woody Overton]

Anything to do with the alleged hacking incident. Once again, another complete false statement circulated on social media. All right, I want to talk about this. The. It's not an alleged. It happened. They shut down our YouTube, they got into my bank accounts, they got in everything that I had.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Kudos for them I never said Danny K did it. I never said Sheriff Sam Kraft or.

[Woody Overton]

One of his employees did it. I didn't do it. I.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Did I talk about it. Certainly I did. Did the people in Vernon Parish say.

[Woody Overton]

Danny K. Was an MIT graduate and he's a computer genius and he can.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Hack anything from cell phones to da, da, da, da. They said all that?

[Woody Overton]

I didn't say that.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

You never heard Woody Overton say Danny.

[Woody Overton]

K is responsible for doing this?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

I said. Or that Sheriff Sam Kraft or one.

[Woody Overton]

Of his employees were responsible for doing.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Fucking happened.

[Woody Overton]

And is it a coincidence that it.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Happened when we get into the media investigation?

[Woody Overton]

Absolutely not.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

But I never said that you did it, Sheriff.

[Woody Overton]

And for you to say so is in your own words, like you say in the re. In the release. That is a blatant lie.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Never said it should listen to the podcast.

[Woody Overton]

I never even implied Danny K. I never even implied that you have someone that's educated enough in computer skills to hack all my shit, period. Now, everybody in Vernon Paris ran with it and said what they said. Woody Overton didn't say it on the podcast. And you said another complete false statement circulated on my social media and on my platform, that I said it. I didn't say that, Sheriff. Period.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

So let's roll on to the next.

[Woody Overton]

Part of the statement. The Louisiana State Police recently arrested a former Allen Parish Sheriff's deputy for 428 counts of distributing, acquiring, dissemination of a criminal history records, one count of trespass against the state computer and one count of malfeasance in office. These incidents were directly related to this law enforcement officer's involvement with a social media personality providing misinformation relating to the Bradley stracer case. The 428 counts were the result of the deputy utilizing law enforcement databases to obtain personal identifying information on numerous people. The deputy then shared the prohibited information with a social media personality who disseminated the protected information on social media. All right, let's talk about that. He's 1000% correct on that. And the. The social media personality he's talking about is not me. He's talking about Morgan Baggot and. Or whoever. Release it on criminal conversations. In fact, I stated on the podcast that, you know, I don't have time to follow all day long all these other platforms and what people are saying about the case. I try to, but when I was looking at the stuff on that criminal conversations page, I was like, holy fuck.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

How are they getting this information?

[Woody Overton]

This looks like NCIC printouts and information. And even though they didn't say it on there. And I was like, this is fucking illegal. And it just is.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

I mean every cop that's ever been a cop that has access to the NCIC has to take a class on.

[Woody Overton]

It and they sign that they won't.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Misuse it and it's illegal and what have you. And back in the day before that.

[Woody Overton]

You know, this really became, I'm talking about 30 years ago, y', all, the, you know, we run anybody's license for anything and it wasn't a big deal, but then somebody like this got in trouble for it and so they did.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

The classes and made you sign and matter of fact, now if you run anybody's name, you have to give the reason.

[Woody Overton]

I didn't have to do it, but.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Back in my day you have to give a reason.

[Woody Overton]

It's noted notated in that file and.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

It never goes away just like this. I know for a fact my shit has been run by the powers that be in Vernon Parish.

[Woody Overton]

And guess what?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Whenever I get ready and I make a complaint, the same state police that went and looked this up and found this deputy was running shit can pull my name, woodrow Leo Overton Jr. And it will show anybody that's ever pulled.

[Woody Overton]

My name and what their reason is listed for. And I would really like to see what the reason is, is listed for.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Because I don't know, because I wasn't there.

[Woody Overton]

But I was told that not that.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

My vehicles, my personal information has been.

[Woody Overton]

Run over there and that they know.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

What vehicles I own, etc. Etc.

[Woody Overton]

What have you.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Can I prove that?

[Woody Overton]

Absolutely. Not until I get ready to go make the complaint.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Guess what?

[Woody Overton]

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[Woody Overton]

Mood and physical performance.

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[Woody Overton]

So, in fact, the. When. When this deputy got arrested, Morgan started blowing me up.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

She was all freaked out and she's like, this deputy got arrested and da, da, da. And he's the one that's been giving me all the information.

[Woody Overton]

I said, morgan, that's fucking illegal. That.

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That's like.

[Woody Overton]

And I hated. I mean, this guy was trying to help. You know, kudos for him for that.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

But you can't break the law. And if something had come out of it, it would have been fruit of the poisonous tree. And there's nothing I can do for him.

[Woody Overton]

You know, they. And, and, you know, I hate that.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

He got arrested trying to be a good guy and trying to help, but. And I hate it for his family.

[Woody Overton]

And he lost his job and he's.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

A cop that got arrested.

[Woody Overton]

And do I think.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

He did it with mal intent or. Or is he just trying to help an investigation?

[Woody Overton]

I mean, I certainly think he was trying to help an investigation. Was he wrong? Absolutely. And now he is. It's wrong, y', all. When I say he's not. I don't think anybody's wrong for. For wanting to help an investigation that is wrong that he accessed that database. There's laws against it and you just cannot do it. And now he's got to suffer the consequences.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Continue with sheriff's statement. He says, as a former state trooper.

[Woody Overton]

I have always maintained a close working relationship with Louisiana State Police. Well, you know, I'm a former criminal investigator for the state Police. I maintain close relationships, but I, I don't work with them anymore. But I still have my, you know, my crew. Good, you're sheriff and you should have a close working relationship with Louisiana State Police, regardless with whether you were a trooper or not. It says this department has enlisted the assistance. Their assistance on many occasions to include the Bradley Strasner case. We have partnered previously with the FBI, dea, Attorney General and the state police on narcotics cases that extend beyond our parish jurisdiction. Right. The. You get stuff that's in your. Your parish and you know, certain cases are going to be federal, certain cases the state will pick up, what have you, the attorney General and all that. But I mean, that's what law enforcement agencies do. They work together. This doesn't have anything to do with Bradley or Austin of any. That's great, Sheriff. Great that you're. Your Sheriff's office actually does what sheriff's office do. And he says we are currently partnering with the state and federal agencies on several cases that originated right here in Vernon Parish and have been ongoing for approximately two years. Great doing your job.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

The spirit of cooperation has always existed.

[Woody Overton]

And will continue to exist between our local, state, and federal partners. Great. It should. You're the sheriff. You. You need to utilize every tool you know that's at hand for you to solve cases. That's what sheriff's office do. What does this have to do with Bradley? Absolutely nothing. So. Or Austin.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

But he says, as sheriff, I am.

[Woody Overton]

Duty bound to uphold the laws of this parish and state. Yes, you are. You swore a note to that. Continuing. To those who have maliciously posted completely false allegations, you obviously have no qualms about what links you will go to in order to distort the truth and garner attention. Well, I never said that you had anything directly to do with Bradley's murder or Austin's murder, which you're calling an overdose. So assume you're talking about someone else or, you know, maybe you're lumping me in with other people who are giving you a ration of shit and are saying that you're dirty and at your office is dirty. And I said it time and time again, I do not believe everybody over there is dirty. I do not believe that, you know, you're getting any money for these cases, and that's just, you know, conspiracy theory bullshit.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

But you know what?

[Woody Overton]

It doesn't look good for you. Right? And. And people have a right to, you know, speak their. Their mind. This is America. You know, defamation of character and all that. The laws that actually pertain to this, that's. That's for y' all to figure out. But continuing, he says, when vpso Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office employees break the law, I deal with these situations accordingly. As you should. I've had to arrest cops myself, and that happens. Continuing. But when employees are maliciously attacked on social media, when the integrity of this department is questioned by.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

I will stand up and defend the.

[Woody Overton]

Employees in this department with everything that I have. My employees and I will continue to proudly serve the people of Vernon Parish to the absolute best of our abilities. All right? Whether it is assisting an elderly person with a flat tire or handling a criminal investigation, we will continue to conduct ourselves with dignity and honor and provide the highest level of service possible. All right, Now, I'm going to address that. The things that I've said, and I've said it on last week's episode. In the beginning, I was just thinking it was some stupid work police Work on the part of the detectives, especially Detective David Vance. The, you know, sharing all the information that he shared with Morgan Baggett and then other people that told me that things that he said directly to them. And, and then you can't get off of it. And then you, you at a certain point in time you question. I question in my head. Not on social media. I never said Detective Vance got paid anything for involvement in Austin or Bradley's deaths. Do I think it's stupid that he hollers down the hallway at the jail get Austin abandoned, out for her polygraph about Bradley's case and then she gets out of jail and she ends up dead and they take her out in the middle of the night and okay. To her home and to retrieve something. I can only assume there's a piece of evidence. The, the. The things that were told to me a lot of many of so many of them that I know that can't be completely true that I never said anything about. And but there's a lot of recording sheriff of Detective Vance saying shit that, that if anybody a detective worked for me and that was said and, and these things were done in this investigation, well that detective wouldn't be working for me anymore. And I stand by that. So the you know defending Detective Vance. I'll give you an example of one and that I didn't. I never said on publicly on air.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Person.

[Woody Overton]

Called someone and they have a recording of it. And this person said they were talking to Detective Vance and Detective Vance. That person said about me, Woody Overton's coming over here at some point. And Detective Vance. This is according to this person and there is a recording. I'm not a recording between him and Detective Vance. But this person tells Detective Vance hey, you might not want to be so quick to want to fuck with Woody Overton. You don't know if this dude might be a badass or something. Detective Vance said according to this person on the conversation. Remember this is him saying this, not Detective Vance. According to that person, Detective Vance said I told Sam Kraft that Woody Overton is coming over here. Then, then I'm going to take off my badge to hand it to him and I'm a Woody Overton's ass. Okay, I never said that before but you're talking about the integrity of your employees. And this is like the non disclosure agreements. I can't prove it one way or another. And so but there's certainly that person said it and that that is true. And I have the recording of him saying that is true. So Can I verify it? No. And am. Am I afraid to go to Vernon Parish? Obviously not. I came to your jail a couple weeks ago, and by the time y' all were hearing this, I've already been back in Vernon Parish again. So figure that one out. And you're going to defend that? Defend it? The. The. If this ever goes to court, meaning Sam Kraft against Woody Overton, Vernon Perry Sheriff's office against Woody Overton. I will produce every piece of it. And then you have to. Or your attorneys, the sheriff's office attorney will have to get these prominent citizens. These are. I'm not. There's a lot from people that are in the lifestyle, right? The. Meaning using dopes or dope or addicted to dope, etc. But there's a lot from the good people of Vernon Parish that I have that I can never talk about because I promised them I wouldn't. But if it comes to court, I'm gonna break it out. So the. But I don't think it's gonna get that far. You know why? Because I didn't say anything that I can't come with receipts for. I have the receipts, okay? I have the receipts. And I am investigating this. I am looking into all these positive motives. The. The. You know, I don't. Sam Kraft, I do not think personally that you had anything to do with Bradley's death or Austin's death, that you didn't murder them or you didn't order someone to murder them or whatever. Never said it that you did. And even though you think I did that. But they are. I mean, just last week, another sheriff got arrested for bad shit, doing bad shit in office. And we all know. I know several sheriffs. The. The sheriff's like. I think the last three before Nate WILLIAMS and in St. Helene, the last.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

Three sheriffs went to prison. The sheriff in St. Tammany went to.

[Woody Overton]

Prison for doing bad shit.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

I'm not saying that you are, Sam.

[Woody Overton]

Kraft, but also not saying that it's not outside the realm of possibilities or the things to be considered when you are constantly getting information of people saying that there's corruption, there's this, there's that, and here's. Here's why I think this is. And you know what? I have. I'm going to go look at it. But I never said you did the things that you said that I said that you did. All right? And that is what it is. So continuing with the statement, he says, I will not go back and forth with people on social media. Well, guess what, Sheriff? I don't either. And people say bad shit about me every day. You know what I don't do? I don't respond because it's. Doesn't do any good. But you're, you know, I don't blame you. You don't have enough time in the day to answer all the people that are calling you a shithead on social media and defend yourself. But yeah, it is what it is.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

So continuing, he says the resolve of.

[Woody Overton]

This department remains steadfast and constant. We will not be pressured or coerced into taking any law enforcement action in any case that we cannot justify in a court of law. Absolutely agree. The, the, all the cases I've worked in the past and even outside of law enforcement, the ones I've solved through the podcast and what have you.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

You.

[Woody Overton]

Know, I certainly, if I'd have bowed to the pressure, I either been scared like a little bitch and I wouldn't have, I would have got off the cases. Or, or I would have turned it over too soon if I didn't have enough knowledge to know better or turned it over too soon where it wasn't beyond a reasonable doubt and it had never gone anywhere. Okay. And I'm still not beyond a reasonable doubt now or what I have would be turned over. And until I get beyond a reasonable doubt, Ms. Barbara Blunt's case, I think she's been murdered now. 18 years. 17. 18 years. And I totally have been working it all these years in cordon, along with Sheriff Jason Art, Livingston Parish Sheriff's Office. And I personally, through all the tips, anonymous things and working it, et cetera, et cetera, I cannot get off of who I know did it. And, but I also can't get it beyond a reasonable doubt, way past probable cause, which is enough for an arrest. If I was still in law enforcement, I would make an arrest because when the handcuffs go on and you get charged, people talk and that's a fact. They want to save their ass. But the, until I can get the case beyond a reasonable doubt, which is what a district attorney wants to prosecute, then I'm never going to rush it for it, never going to do it. And, and, and for you to not bow down, I mean, I would hope, I would hope the statement is true. And because all the pressure on social media and everything, all the shit that you're getting now, including lifers calling you and everything else, I would hope that you would not just make a half ass arrest to shut people up because.

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[Woody Overton]

The constant thing I've said over and over again is you want me off this case, solve it. Right. But don't. Don't solve it at the, at the expense of an innocent person. And I don't want that. Justice is not about that. You don't want that in the that I'm, I'm certain there are some cops that do that, that, that push a case through just to get what my old sheriff used to call an ape or an acute political emergency off their back. That. But I don't want that done in Bradley's case. I don't want that done in Austin's case. And kudos for you for not bowing to public pressure. Right. I know you catching a lot of it. So any continuously says I will gladly answer questions from or the media at any time, be it in person or by telephone call in regards to any question that may arise from this release sign. VPSO Sheriff John S. Sam Kraft. Well, he's a man of his word on that, y'. All. I didn't know, I think her name is Cheryl Lim was going to call him. That. That phone call I played last week at the beginning of the episode. I had no idea that they were going to do that, but they did that after and other people were talking about doing it after this press release. And you know what? He's a man as word. He answered all her questions. You know, the, the. I'd have had a whole lot more. And Sheriff, I'd be more than willing to sit down, do a podcast with you and you know, I know it's not going to happen. I would be more than willing sit down and do a podcast with you and it would be unedited, would never take a word out and raw and unscripted. But if, if you do that, I'm gonna ask all the questions about Vance and I, I'll show you my cards. And so I, I know it's an ongoing investigation and I'm glad for that. That's what we wanted. It's an ongoing investigation and I hope y' all solve it. But you there, you know, the things that are done are done. Bradley's been murdered, Austin. And my opinion has been murdered and the injuries that she has, her body. You. I. You know what? I'm working on something right now. And if, If I get. If I get the. Go ahead, if you will, to release those pictures, then, then I'm gonna release them so the world can see. What a little abrasion on. According to your words, what a little, you know, there's no injuries. How about that? And out. And. But you know what that does. And the reason they haven't been released is out of respect for the family and, and that's the truth. But the. Hey, I'd be more than willing to sit down and however long it takes and go through it. But I know you're not going to do that. But if you want to, I'm available. I'll come to Burnham Parish again and do whatever and you can say your side, right? But I'm not going to be restricted on asking any questions about, you know, including what Vance did and didn't do. And so I imagine there would be stipulations on both sides. And the one, the stipulation I would have is that nothing, nothing, not one word or response can be edited out. There'd be some ums and lip smacks and it wouldn't be touched. And then the whole world could hear you answer my questions. But again, if that happens, awesome. I don't think it's going to happen ever. Now, as far as Bradley's case goes, y' all continue to call on your tips. Three one, three R L R C tip. I get recordings every single day. Matter of fact, it's gotten to the point where I told one person, please do not send me another telephone recording of anyone without at least putting who the person's name is and what it relates to. Because the. Just two nights ago that I got two recordings that totaled over an hour. And just the records is that you've been sent a recording and I'm supposed to just drop what I'm doing and listen everything. And if I bet you I have 50 or 60 and some of them are hours long, that since I've started this case seven months ago and I've sat there and listened and listened, listen. And some of them, I don't have a thing to do with Bradley or Austin. It's about, you know, somebody's uncle or cousin or, you know, did this and, you know, who was dealing dope. And I don't give a fuck about that. I came on for Bradley, it morphed into Austin abandoned. And I'm going to stay on for Bradley and I'm going to stay on Austin abandon and. And that's just the way that it is. And I hope I know y'. All. I know so many people have so much hatred in their heart for Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office. I get that. I'm not one. I don't have hatred that I am simply following the facts. Non disclosure request being sent, the public information request being sent. That was a means to an end. All that I'm trying to do is run down different leads to exclude them or I can't get off of them and they have to be included and to we get it beyond a reasonable doubt. And at that time I fully believe just like Courtney Coco's case and I was against Alexandria Police Department and. And because I couldn't get off of not because I have anything against cops. I bleed blue. The and I do. And it must seem like I'm the most cop Hayden person in the world. No, I'm not. I hate bad cops.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

I hate stupid police work.

[Woody Overton]

That. That if it would been done differently, this case probably Bradley's case probably would have been solved in the beginning. But the. The. I. I truly believe in my heart that it is a case of another dope head. You know, now it's a disappearance. And even though Vance told and there's recordings of it Morgan Baggott that, you know, they work together on all this time and. And it's a. It's a murder. And, oh, we know who did it. And then they got this guy in jail who tried to commit suicide. He actually confessed to Bradley's murder. And I don't know if I've ever released that before. And I mean, there's. There's recordings of ants saying all this. You know why that's a.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

That's the kind of stuff that as.

[Woody Overton]

An experienced investigator that she's. You leaves you scratching your head and saying, what the. Why would you do this? You know. But I know that y' all are investigating it and that's great. And I hope that we get to bring Bradley's body home so Oliver has a place to go visit his daddy to family has a place to go visit him. And on top of that, I pray that this case and I'm going to not get off of it until it does. And I pray that this case gets beyond a reasonable doubt. Y'. All. That's not beyond a shadow of all doubt. The legal definition, reasonable doubt is the, you know, where a reasonable person could reasonably hear all the evidence and only be able to reach the reasonable conclusion that such and such person did this. Okay. What I meant to say is. What? It's not without a shadow of a doubt. It's beyond a reasonable doubt. And, and, and it's not like Jesus is going to come down from heaven and sit in Santa Craft's office and say, this is the person who murdered Bradley or bring Bradley back from the dead and Bradley can say, this is the person who murdered me or the people that murdered me. That's beyond a shadow of a doubt. We have to get it beyond a reasonable doubt, which is a reasonable person hears all the evidence and can only reach the conclusion that these people did it. These people murdered him. And this is the reason why they don't. You. You don't have to have the reason why. You don't have to have a motive. I, I am. I am beyond probable cause as. As far as knowing why Bradley was murdered. No doubt in my mind that I know that and who did it and everything else, unless that. But I'm keeping the tip line open because they need more to get it beyond a reasonable doubt. All right? And you don't think the Vernon Perry Sheriff's office doesn't know? Because they know and they are also trying to get it beyond a reasonable doubt. You don't want to call me, call them. And hopefully they'll work it right or continue to work it or work it and solve it. So that's it. And I don't have anything else to say about this this week, but I want justice for Bradley. I want justice for ao I have now. And by the time you hear this, I will have been done. Since the last episode. Well, you know, naturally. I mean, I get calls every day anyway, since the last episode. I've got to go take some personal meetings in Vernon Parish. And you know, of course, I'm not going to tell you when I'm coming or who it's going to be with. And I'm taking these personal meetings to try and get it beyond a reasonable doubt. Should some people tell me they have evidence and they'll only meet in person, that brings it beyond a reasonable doubt. Well, guess what? I'm going. I'm going to go see what they got, right? And it may not be Jack, but I'm going to go find out.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly a law enforcement or investigative commentator)]

So.

[Woody Overton]

Prayers for their families. Prayers for Austin's family. I don't know, but I sure hope it gets beyond a reasonable doubt sooner than later. And patriotic convicts, thank you for your support. Our national sponsors thank you for your support without that I wouldn't be able to afford to drive back and forth from Burning Parish. And that's just a fact. The you know I'm not. I don't. Thank you and all lifers. I love and appreciate each and every one of you. Thank you for liking and listening and sharing and y' all. Ms. Barbara Johnson, we did a release on Friday or yesterday if you're regular life or listen to this. Listen to it if you would. It's about the case hashtag justice for Haley in Atlanta and the next step that we're taking on that so but I'm Woody Overton, your host of Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast and until next time or ever, don't let me catch you. Don't murder by you. Peace. You have the right to remain silent.

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Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.

[Woody Overton]

You got a right to an attorney.

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Prior to it during any question. If you can't afford one, the court will point one for you. Do you understand your rights?

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And the wolf is at your home you running over that's for sure.

[Woody Overton]

Already.

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Knows all about you cut you down no matter about you now you better walk alive.

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